First off the lay on this rope is just not that good, second if you take more than 6 lays you should take 2 and 4 strands, however with this rope i would take 2and 4 anyway. Usually Chinese or American galvanized ropes have the worst lay preforms.
Not a high enough helix in the strands. Make wire rope of a living and that looks like cheap imported rope. We check every rope every time we cut to make sure the helix is in spec for every rope we make. Told the cheap imported stuff don't go through the same quality checks.
I make my Tails 1 Ft or so longer than the Eye ,Then do the Eye & wind the 2 tails into single line , Then Put the Eye in a Vice & take a tapered bar & Twist the Notch of the eye & Lay the Tail into the Standing Line & put on a a few Cosby Clamps - Quick & Easy
Hi Steven!!! This wire rope would be pre-formed, but due a manufactory problem, when this wire rope is opened, the strands don't stay the same way. Our furnisher replace this material. Thanks for watching my video.
We call that a 'Flemish eye' but we use a 2 & 4 strand divide and fasten the ends with a bulldog grip. We use it in emergencies for a quick fix and normally use a Liverpool splice but there are many variations & mixed ways to splice. I was a trawler man but friend of mine was a rigger in the mines at Whitehaven England and it was magic how he managed those huge cables. There were no twisting machines then and when the came they made the job so much easier. It must be great to have brains!
Gerry Doyle not a flemish eye but a super loop ,you don't splice tails in a super loop, a flemish eye splice is totally diffrent and has a difrent use.a Liverpool splice is non load bearing as you wrap the tail strands around one strand as with a normal splice you tuck strands across and under strands which end up locking them in place so it can be load bearing......and swl is usually half the breaking strain of the rope
I read all comments. Comment: cut the free hand of rope from the wooden reel. It was obvious from the first picture you started the video that will lead you wrong finish. When you separated strands 3-3 it was the second signal, first 3 strand was different lengths of position, .. etc .. etc,.. of course everyone knows what they are doing and of course you all know better than me !
the smaller the eye and the thicker the wire, the sooner this type of splicing becomes a problem. the fact that the two ends had an overlap complicated things even more in this case.I always start intertwining the to pairs from the middle to the both ends. give the left a twist, then the right on etc...
First, I think this cable is probably junk. Second, if you wound the core side in rather than the strand side, this would not happen. One more thing, Why does it take two people to do this?? I have done this for 35 years now and I can do 2" regular eyes.
Why people who do something in an old fashioned way always criticize others for making the job easier? "Why do you need a crane? In my day, I could lift 250-kg bag of sand to the 100th floor on my back. I'm a disabled hunchback now but it's still the right way to do it". Go get a beer or something, ffs!
Here's a tip for strand ends ...tape them up with electricians tape .wrap it to tighten strand anti clockwise...also good when cutting strands stops them opening
Use of tape like that would’ve been frowned upon in the old days but, in reality, it’s a very practical way of keeping strands from unraveling while working on a splice. Covers the sharp ends as well.
@@caroleast9636 how far back do you call the old days lol im 56 now and we used it 30 years ago .lol yr right actually my dad never used tape or gloves ..hard old men in them days
Sorry maybe i have had to splice too much junk rope . There is definatly a rope issue but your splicing technique exasperated the problem . If you take the 3strand side and get it started on the core side of the crotch it will keep the core from slipping in as you wind the eye. As soon as you locked the core side you could see the slip and should have unlocked and switched sides. But seeing as you did notnhave a sleeve on the cable i am guessing this was just a test ;)
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now when some one dies or something is damaged because of subpar material, you're to blame...not the manufacturers...should have went with German or Japanese...
First off the lay on this rope is just not that good, second if you take more than 6 lays you should take 2 and 4 strands, however with this rope i would take 2and 4 anyway.
Usually Chinese or American galvanized ropes have the worst lay preforms.
you guys definitely do not know what you are doing.
Not a high enough helix in the strands. Make wire rope of a living and that looks like cheap imported rope. We check every rope every time we cut to make sure the helix is in spec for every rope we make. Told the cheap imported stuff don't go through the same quality checks.
So many experts in the comment section. Oh my!
Это опасная петля. И опасность в том, что она сразу не расплетается, она расплетётся позже и неожиданно, когда вы поверите, что она надёжная.
i just play with it. you guys need more learning.
Leave a slightly longer tail end, makes life easier, also a bit of tape on the strands stops them fraying so much
That is a mess... that’s what happens with China Rope
I make my Tails 1 Ft or so longer than the Eye ,Then do the Eye & wind the 2 tails into single line , Then Put the Eye in a Vice & take a tapered bar & Twist the Notch of the eye & Lay the Tail into the Standing Line & put on a a few Cosby Clamps - Quick & Easy
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just tie a granny not in it , that always works .
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the lay length of rope are wrong from the manufacturer..in others words that is called fly away..
Correct!!!
I really am not sure what the problem is here or even if there is a problem. Please explain someone what is going on.
Hi Steven!!! This wire rope would be pre-formed, but due a manufactory problem, when this wire rope is opened, the strands don't stay the same way. Our furnisher replace this material. Thanks for watching my video.
Marcelo Silva thank you for the explanation :)
It did it cause the 3 strands had to much gap between the wires. Set wire where it bends up n pick at 3 oclock open six times with core on right
We call that a 'Flemish eye' but we use a 2 & 4 strand divide and fasten the ends with a bulldog grip. We use it in emergencies for a quick fix and normally use a Liverpool splice but there are many variations & mixed ways to splice. I was a trawler man but friend of mine was a rigger in the mines at Whitehaven England and it was magic how he managed those huge cables. There were no twisting machines then and when the came they made the job so much easier. It must be great to have brains!
Gerry Doyle not a flemish eye but a super loop ,you don't splice tails in a super loop, a flemish eye splice is totally diffrent and has a difrent use.a Liverpool splice is non load bearing as you wrap the tail strands around one strand as with a normal splice you tuck strands across and under strands which end up locking them in place so it can be load bearing......and swl is usually half the breaking strain of the rope
Well, that didn't work.
why？ look like project fail.....
I read all comments. Comment: cut the free hand of rope from the wooden reel. It was obvious from the first picture you started the video that will lead you wrong finish.
When you separated strands 3-3 it was the second signal, first 3 strand was different lengths of position, .. etc .. etc,.. of course everyone knows what they are doing and of course you all know better than me !
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the smaller the eye and the thicker the wire, the sooner this type of splicing becomes a problem. the fact that the two ends had an overlap complicated things even more in this case.I always start intertwining the to pairs from the middle to the both ends. give the left a twist, then the right on etc...
Это не заплетение -это херня.Запелетение --это когда проколы делаешь/////
boring boring!!!!!!!
FFS they dont have a clue how to tuck wire rope that rope is 1 1/4 inch hard to handle, but they messed it up when they undone the strands!
you picked the wrong strands to work with was all. find the 12 o'clock point and go back 2
First, I think this cable is probably junk. Second, if you wound the core side in rather than the strand side, this would not happen. One more thing, Why does it take two people to do this?? I have done this for 35 years now and I can do 2" regular eyes.
Why people who do something in an old fashioned way always criticize others for making the job easier? "Why do you need a crane? In my day, I could lift 250-kg bag of sand to the 100th floor on my back. I'm a disabled hunchback now but it's still the right way to do it". Go get a beer or something, ffs!
Nice
That's called a Molly Hogan loop
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Wrong Wrong Wrong !!!
so what now ?
Here's a tip for strand ends ...tape them up with electricians tape .wrap it to tighten strand anti clockwise...also good when cutting strands stops them opening
Use of tape like that would’ve been frowned upon in the old days but, in reality, it’s a very practical way of keeping strands from unraveling while working on a splice. Covers the sharp ends as well.
@@caroleast9636 how far back do you call the old days lol im 56 now and we used it 30 years ago .lol yr right actually my dad never used tape or gloves ..hard old men in them days
This is great, can you help me to check safe weight load for it?
you can twist the strands back to its natural lay, after the lay is broken.
32mm
We ran into this problem before. Try forming the eye from the middle. It push up the core as much. Hopefully that works.
This product was with manufacturing problems. Our supplier changed for us. Thanks for your comments!!!
This is not compleat vdo
cheap chinese wire :D
out of lay core wire is worng
Sorry maybe i have had to splice too much junk rope . There is definatly a rope issue but your splicing technique exasperated the problem . If you take the 3strand side and get it started on the core side of the crotch it will keep the core from slipping in as you wind the eye. As soon as you locked the core side you could see the slip and should have unlocked and switched sides. But seeing as you did notnhave a sleeve on the cable i am guessing this was just a test ;)
Exacerbated. :-)
Hes said crotch lol
wrong
Is that eye can worked well?? I don't think so.....
Definitely no.
What you I need there's a big old bird nest
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The wire rope it is not of the best quality
For any needs about steel wire rope PLZ contact me WhatsApp：+86 18036231199 .We are manufacturer of steel wire rope in China.
We have best quality,do you need it?
now when some one dies or something is damaged because of subpar material, you're to blame...not the manufacturers...should have went with German or Japanese...
Teen years experience I need work
post your cv on UA-cam.
good idea
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