Porsche 911 S/T review - is it Porsche's greatest 911 yet?
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2023
- This is the new Porsche 911 S/T. And the good people of Porsche's GT division say that it's nothing other than the most exciting 911 they've ever made.
Which, given that even in recent history they've made the 911 GT3 RS 4.0 and the 911 R is no small claim.
On the face of the S/T is a 911 GT3 with the engine out of a GT3 RS, but Porsche being Porsche things aren't quite that simple.
A raft of tweaks make the kerbweight 1380kg, very similar to the 911 R. It loses the GT3's active rear steer, too, and there's a lighter flywheel and clutch.
This all places less demand on the 518bhp/525PS naturally-aspirated four-litre engine, so it spins and zings even more freely.
The bald stats say this car can do 0-62mph in 3.7sec and has a top speed of 186mph. But there is much, much more to it than that.
Join Autocar's editor-at-large Matt Prior as he drives the 911 S/T and finds out what makes it tick.
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Another incredibly-priced 911, made out of unobtainium, already pre-purchased by Porsche's anointed customers 25 years ago during a secret seance, that no one will ever drive nor see as it will be bubble-wrapped in silk, hidden 3 miles underground in a billionaire's 400 car garage. If Porsche were really serious about wanting people to drive these cars, they'd make 19,630 of them - not 1963. The entire Porsche game is almost as farcical as Ferrari these days. So why even bother road-testing such unavailable things just to tease us into misery? This is akin to flaunting a stripper in front of convicted criminals. Never going to feel, never going to touch. Get back in your cell!
Beautifully worded, modern Porsche is a shell of it's former self, that weaponizes artificial scarcity to power a brand stretched too thin.
"Road to 20"
@@Andre-ez8qryou mean overpriced
The best comment I have ever read on UA-cam 😂
@@Andre-ez8qr its not about it being expensive its about underproducing cars to push resale values to insane levels to cause speculation on other cars. these will go for double retail as soon as they hit the market
It feels like Ferrari and Porsche are playing the same cynical game. Let's see how much we can screw out of rich people. It's amazing how those cars are always all sold out, yet instantly dealers have 2nd hand examples for sale at a massive premium. You could say it's great business but don't kid us it has anything to do with a love of cars or driving
and the my tour begins, watched TG review, now this, more please!
One day, hopefully you might be in a position to buy something like this. Then you’ll be told by your dealer that they have all been sold, but luckily, we do have one available at double list price…..Personally I think the 2017-2020 991.2 GT3 manual looks better and makes more sense.
Buy a GT3 Touring instead.. plenty of used ones around, and some not far over list if you take their specifications into account. 😎👍
More sense for what
@@ArtVandelayOfficial Because it’s already the legend, is more accessible and has a better looking front end. Plus it may be academic, but I prefer the idea of the GT3s 198 mph top speed, compared to the 186 of the S/T. Also I don’t know if I need a close ratio manual box, in a car that already spools up too fast for optimised gear changes.
Double list price, used and scratches all over from improper washes.
I've seen this 911 last friday near my office in Parco Nazionale Della Sila, Calabria (Italy). Stunning car!
Beautifully comprehensive and succinct insight. Thank you sir. Loud though init! Best. G.
Really a newer 911r nothing wrong with that
Less is more, I very much like this approach of a cleaner looking and more simple back to roots look, than the GT3RS.
You guys have a gift. You can make the most exciting cars so incredibly boring. Truly astonishing
Had you changed a car every week (or so) you would have been bored by them as well. That's a "dark side" of a car journalist's life... ;)
Besides, I take their word for all these magnesium wheels/single flywheel inertia advantages and wonder how to make a safe but still blind test that would support these claims.
I think it’s quite clear any respectable car owner absolutely requires an s/t for the Sundays, a turbo s for the daily drive and a gt3rs for the track days .
What about a GT4 RS?
@@888mf4 I mean it’s clearly a phenomenal car, but gt3 rs just pips it on the track, and s/t more complaint for the twisty roads. I’m not sure what it would add over a collection of those three ?
Is there anything more soothing that Matty Prior waltzing through a car review 😂😂
The 911 of 911s ❤
Props to Porsche for not selling their soul for “lap times”
I suspect that the reason it feels wider is that - it is!
While it may be true that at 1852mm wide, it’s the same or similar to the GT3 RS 4.0, I believe the way they measure this is from the center of the rim > to center of the rim.
With much larger front rims than the RS 4.0, this way of measuring would actually hide a bit of the true width; if it was measured from the outer edges of the tires, I suspect it would be a noticeably wider measurement than the cars you’re comparing it to.
Specced it out like I wanted....$333k. I mean even if I could get one and I could afford it, that's an overreach.
$292 on mine 😄
I like it simple
Certainly a lovely 911, and would love one, but at that price? Ouch!
As for the 'greatest 911' comment.....maybe not. That is a VERY big call, 73RS, 993turboS, 997GT3RS, 992GT3RS, etc. It has it's place in the line up, but we'll never see them, garage queens!
Good review Autocar, well said.
@911aircooled5 ... +1 Agreed. . Who knows? .. Me? .. Its my 1998 Carrera C2S ordered new. .. ""I'll give you my 993 when you pry it from my cold, dead hands"
.. Cheers, Vail, Colorado
@@michaelschneider- Well Done! Thanks for the reply. Funny thing is, I was going to put the 993C2S in my post above. I had a 993turbo, for 10years and regret selling it, now actively looking for a C2S, BRILLIANT car and I suggest you never sell it. Unfortunately the steering wheel is on the wrong side for me to purchase it. Haha. I'm in Aust.
Are we sure it’s on the same tyres as a GT3/GT3 Touring? I saw some close ups of the tyres and couldn’t see Cup2 written on the Michelin sidewalls
Matt Prior could unleash his inner Chris Harris a bit for such a car in my opinion.
I am happy with my GT4 RS. It has a mid engined set up and a wonderful soundtrack, but this 911 S/T looks sublime. If I wanted a manual gearbox I would be tempted to buy a 991.2 Speedster.
How many “most exciting 911 to drive” cars do they say this about haha
@888mf4 yup
@@dnice362 In this case it's true though considering the gear ratios, clutch spec and lowest weight
Expensive at 230k….the flippers will have them up for 450k!
Currently one is on sale for just a little over € 620k!! Bargain
@@timmtonic where?
More than that I’m afraid- at least in the states
As others have said below, rather pointless as completely unobtainable. I'll stick with a 4.0 718 Spyder for less than half the (list) money thank you! 👍👍👍
How did you put me to sleep while watching a video about this glorious car?
That thing is a foot wider than my 997.2. Seems like that would suck the fun out of b-roads.
Don't be silly it's only about 40mm wider, in fact exactly the same width as the 991 GT3 and 997 GT3 RS. It hasn't grown much, it's just hack trope.
Porsche: "It'd not personal, it's strictly business."
Me: "Meh".
What a machine
15 min of video and we see the guy talking during 14 min. We want to see more the car and less the guy.
Bring back the narrow body!
We don't need the vertigo shots from the drone.
Dream car. ❤
£230k + options lol - madness
$290k USD! I’ll just settle for a GT3RS and if I want a manual just the regular GT3! Lol
991:2 touring FTW
The price is just silly. Love it though.
Weighs about as much as a volvo c30. Not bad considering the lump in the back.
Isn't the rear steer electric?
No rear steer I believe on this version
That is literally my dream car, and this dude can't even smile about it... What a wasted privilege. Just have fun FFS!! no one can buy one of these. Just tell me how awesome it is and how happy you are that you get to drive it. Or let someone drive it who will actually appreciate it. Move over Capt. Lame Sauce!
Fr man, this guy doesn't know how to make a review
One can feel the jealousy. A Brit driving the best car ever made.
The R has a single mass, its just a tweaked R with facelifts
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McLaren still uses hydraulic aided steering?
Expensive, yes, but still half the price of a well specc'd SF90
I like your reviews and content but please, please lose the annoying and distracting background “music”.
I'm strangely unmoved. You'd have to drive it to know for sure, but my sense is that a 991.1 R would be preferable from the really modern catalogue. And I have zero doubt a 996.2 RS is miles more engaging. That car is so hard to beat.
Every single st video I’ve seen is of a guy driving this car at a 2 let’s see 10!! Asking how much more comfort do you get from mag wheels!! Get Chris Harris back driving the gt3 sheeesh
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yeah a few folks will get them. Porsche buyer royalty who have spent 10's of millions on their cars, or someone known by the dealer who agrees to sell it back to the dealer at their cost within an agreed upon date/mileage. Then the dealer will double or triple the price and market it as a CPO to for the pee-on regular enthusiast.
Finally, a car with a really nice rack.
I hate the hood/bonnet on these upper end models. air intakes and diffusers are reminiscent of modern bmw, and we all know how much everyone loves that snout. a bit overwrought, porsche.
Bruh I want to know stuff about this car and how enjoyable it is. I couldn’t care less if you think GT3R or GT4 whatever is better. You gave more facts about GT3 than this car. Wth
It's because there is nothing but marketing bs surrounding this car I suspect.
@@aboutthecurvesit's a sum of the best parts in one car; RS engine, refined suspension over GT3, carbon doors and wings, shorter ratios, light flywheel. It is a great prospect, just missing a big wing on the back for me.
Awsome ! However if ultimate 911 and a celebration of the car, why not make more? Why make it exclusive? If it’s a celebration shouldn’t it be available for whomever wants one? Doesn’t make sense, plenty of limited editions 911s. If this it what they are saying it is and anniversary of the 911 why not have everyone able to enjoy it???? Why? …… greed
very very nice until a R.U.F pulls up next to you know what i mean
Porsche make me laugh with all the bla bla and the public laps it all up so more power to them. I will stick with my old Air cooled 911 for real driver engagement over real public roads.... it already has a slower steering rack that this car is trying to replicate, its far smaller so i can enjoy it on tight back roads and place it through lanes with perfection. And no need to wait and pay a premium for it, and I can actually use all of the engine unlike the modern cars.
300,000 bucks?
$600,000+ in New Zealand.
It's nearly impossible to get one, so eff the video, I could care less.
718 Spyder RS accomplishes the mission of the ST far better...
I'd argue even the non RS 718 Spyder does! (Biased)
A civic type R is wider.... I don't get why its always a point to make in videos that the 911 is a big car.... it's not....
Greatest and most overpriced
Until the next gen. just like the 911R.
911 R with tweaks????
Far better with the updated transmission ratios, flywheel,clutch,bit more HP
Also the R had an awful front bumper but that's subjective 👍
Great, another car almost nobody can buy.... getting sick of this
I'll stick with my 996 turbo 😘
we dont' need anymore new cars. They stopped making cool cars a decade ago. Don't care about anything coming out anymore, Car guys are turning to old cars now and for a zillion reasons. I don't care about anything on the market anymore.
Funniest thing is all these companies take kit out of there cars , says it special slap a badge on it change a couple of small things, like…. Wow these are carbon fibre!…. Charge more for it then charge again to put back all the standard options on it!!! And all these idiot journalist fawn over them, so they are invited back for the next special release!!! Lol!! The manufacturers are laughing all the way to the bank!!
LOL its a Porsche lifestyle car. A marketing gimmick. The same engine has been around since the 991.2 GT3.....................No thanks will stick with my 991.2 GT3 RS. The 992 series is just not exciting or even particularly engaging. I'd take a 982 GT4 RS before the fake decals and marketing. Journos need to call Porsche out, these are all main production line type cars not some rare exotic (well except in the marketing because fly wheel lol).
The car is existing the presenter is boring
Because of Porsche many many models with money grabbing ... from a principal point of view ... I will never buy a Porsche. I will keep driving Corvette. Bang for buck people.
Autocar is for high brow petrol heads along with Savagegeese. How and Why it's goes how it goes. Great Stuff