(1815) What a Difference a Kitemark Makes!
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In video 1815 you'll see what a tremendous difference a British Quality Lock Kitemark makes to pickability, as well as some of the other security features.
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The bottom of the key way insert is to prevent the top pins riding over the bottom of the key when the key is turned past 180 degrees. The pins are sharp bottomed and this insert makes the plug ride smoothly past the drivers. Old Lockwood cylinders had the same insert 40 years ago. Also stopped master chips getting caught.
Oh sick, thanks for the explanation
My brother just locked the keys in our car, And I Actually picked it (with double sided rake) in 45min.. I give full credit to you and your awesome vids. Thanks for saving us that bill!!
Hey, you misplaced last 2 pins! Check the video before reassembling: 13:17
I was just about to make that comment as well! Glad someone else saw it, I was really confused for a minute!
Man I really hope Bill noticed this before putting it back together
They appear to be identical so I’m guessing no big deal.
it doesn't matter, they are the same anyway
As he doesn't "need no stinkin' keys" he should be fine ;)
I have something similar that I'm using as "My First Training Lock" It has 6 pins, 3 spools and a bugger of a paracentric key-way. I've opened it once in over 100 attempts and I think that was more luck than judgement. I like this lock :D
I got a box of locks like those from a lock company and they are difficult to pick. Well done Bill that was actually pretty quick on the open.
I only watch 2 lock picking channels. I think long-time Bosnianbill fans know the other channel I watch. You have very different styles. The other channel tends to inform me about locks to avoid, and you tend to tell me about locks to seek out. Both of you make me want to pick locks - and I will; I just have so many hobbies and not nearly as much time as I had when I was young. Keep safe, Bosnianbill, these are unprecedented times.
Definitely shows that you get what you pay for -- but usually only if the lock is kitemarked.
There's a bit of political/media context behind the anti-snap and anti-drill protections. In the UK there were a spate of burglaries where snapping, bumping and drilling had been identified as the means of entry. Insurers started demanding kitemarked locks, and lock manufacturers upped their game under that demand and media pressure. Demand for BSI approved and tested locks spiked, while demand for cheap locks fell off a cliff. In some areas, the Police and local government worked with local locksmiths to subsidise the cost of upgrading existing locks.
That atmosphere probably pushed the development of locks like this, the Avocet ABS and similar.
Now I know how to get the lock game upgraded in America. Its a small price to pay XD
@@Dortchskii The issue is that in the UK the biggest group of buyers are individual homeowners, who have a vested interest in higher security. In the US the big buyers are landlords and contractors, and neither of them give a damn about security: price is all that matters.
Plumbing torch is how they get in now melt a big hole round the lock
@@stevenmullen8402 Only works for the plastic doors that already starred in the old incidents. Those snappable locks seems to be more trouble than they are worth in solid doors and locks that fully shroud the cylinder. In ASSA's home markets, the accessories for oval cylinders greatly protect against this (took a locksmith lots of time to drill away those protections when opening my door after I lost my key to a twin/garant).
It's getting increasingly the case where having a kitemarked lock can make more than the cost of the lock difference to your annual insurance premium!
The BSI kitemark is granted by the British Standards Institution if the product satisfies certain quality criteria. Usually found on security or safety items.
As others have said these locks are fitted with the bible down here in the UK. It would be interesting to see if orientation made any difference Bill.
@@spyderdryverlee4581 yes, it does ;)
in USA, when they get the sheer line the key pin is free falling away from the sheer and can be felt. this allows few things like knowing if you overset or set the pin.
here in Europe its not just like that ;) you can feel if the pin is springy, but there is now way to know if you set or overset or it's just binding ;)
although 90% of the locks in Europe can be raked in no time ;)
TS007 3 Star (BS Kite Mark) that lock ain't www.dhfonline.org.uk/pg/ts-007/335.htm Have TS007 3 Star locks on all my doors!
Just checked and yes that's a 1* lock - www.yaledoorandwindowsolutions.co.uk/en/productsdb/cylinders/as-series-1-star-euro-profile-cylinder/
@@timballam3675 I wonder if the lock pre-dates the 1,2,3 Star classification. I have 3 Star locks everywhere too.
9:23 and 9:34 couldn’t help but notice the Knipex linesman pliers. Knipex makes some of the best hand tools in the industry, hands down.
They're amazing quality tools. I have replaced all my tool truck pliers with Knipex. The pliers wrench and raptor are brilliant for working on suspension issues.
German quality tools 👍
Be careful who you buy them from - loads of Knipex Chinese knock-off out there.
Took Bill 6 minutes. Would take me..... *checks notes* about 6 weeks! LOL
And Bill was unhappy it took that long!
And he had the key in front of him for reference
Thank you, Mr. Bill, for the premium content you provide! You are why so many of us find locksport and continue in the community.
Glad you had fun with it Bill 👍
Great video, Bill. I have 3 Yale euro cylinders, and even the one without a kite mark is more challenging to pick than I expected. The other two are 1 and 3 star Yale superior and platinum respectively, and the big difference there I see is in the snap protection. I think you’ve already featured those last two in prior videos.
Was given one of these locks by a friend about 4 years ago had no luck picking it even with the massive opening was amazed at how simple the pins were when I finally cut it open good work bill👍
Nice pick on a very interesting lock! Can't beat quality, thanks Bill!
Bill for some reason I thought you already had one but you can buy a tool (over here we call it the 'Argus Tool') for dismantling Euros, although I don't think it would've worked with that bottom plate as it holds the bible pins in place? It's pretty handy & makes re-keying them quite fast in standard Euros.
I gotta say, your definition of "off camera" is not quite what mine would be! Thanks for showing how you disassembled it. :)
The remark was because the video was a cut, so we can’t know if he gutted the lock before and then removed a few pins before picking it or similar.
@@OscarC4C4 Which is a bit silly because we all know that Bill can pick that lock. The only question is how much time it takes.
That is a great looking lock. The drill protection in it is incredible. In Australia we don’t usually have any drill protection in most residential lock. Awesome video as always Sir👍🇦🇺😊
Thats crazy with how concerned Australians tend to be about home security i would expect that drill protection would be standard.
@@metamorphicorder yes. I've read that when they gave up their firearms home invasions and robbery went up rapidly and the elderly are targeted disproportionately. Fence builders and window bar installers got very popular too.
@@BCM1959 That story seems to be propaganda or an urban myth.
"There was little change in “unlawful entry with intent,” one of the few types of crime where one might make a case for a possible deterrent effect of having a gun in the home." - cdn1.sph.harvard.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/1264/2012/10/bulletins_australia_spring_2011.pdf
See also: www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jan/13/facebook-posts/no-viral-post-isnt-correct-australias-gun-laws-vio/
@@BCM1959 yeah that's straight up BS mate.
@@tomo9224 are you all better off without guns? In this country they talk about banning guns but there is no plan to get the guns away from criminals, just from legal gun owners. Is it like that in Australia? Like Chicago?, shootings all the time by gang bangers while law abiding people don't have guns. Would be nice if the bad guys didn't have guns but no way to make that happen.
I have talked to some Australians that said the wish they would have kept their guns and heard one give a speech saying it was a mistake to give them up and trust the government.
Am I the only one who find some comfort in seeing Bill's slightly bent picks? 😉
Most of mine are slightly ment as well
100% all my picks have been bent at least once but I greatly prefer dainty picks.
That British Standards kitemark is used on numerous quality products, not just locks. It has been in use in Britain, its Commonwealth and colonies for a very long time. Thanks for the fine video, Bill. EDIT: You transposed the last two driver pins. But they look similar, so no biggie.
That PN04 sure has a swayed back. You're really working those picks.
Great lock. Agree with previous comments in respect of the kite mark being for achieving high standards in the uk market.
Only problem now is that there are lots of unscrupulous chinesium items being marked thus.👍
8:36 I would've broken like seven picks by now in Skyrim, this must be a master level lock lol
great video and a big fan of your work !
I am new to the hobby but have learned much from you already
thanks and best wishes :)
Great pick as usual. Would love to see some picking of D&D technologies Lokk-Latches of different models that goes on gates. Or bypass on the magnetic ones ect if possible.
Can’t find anyone with videos exploiting them or that brand of various locks.
Awesome skills Bill..
The only thing that I don't like is that you and TLPL don't pick them the way that they are designed to be used. In the UK and Europe the Lock is the Other way up so that gravity is also a part of the Lock.
Good job it only had two spools you may have been at it for an hour 😂 great locks Bill
I imagine the 6th keypin is made to be loose, so it drops down every time you counter-rotate to set a serrated pin.
That was actually the 5th, since he took the pins out in order 1,2,3,4,6,5.
@@RobbieHatley that was driver pins, key pins were in order.
Very nicely picked Mr.Bill
Kitemark was something I remember seeing quite a lot before Britan joined the EU. Old school British quality standard not seen so much today. It's still a thing but has faded from public conciseness as something one looked for as a sign of quality product. Probably says more about British manufacturing than anything else.
Nice job Bill. Do you do detail work regularly? Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. Enjoy your Videos. Thanks.
Ever think about getting a scratch test kit to see the hardness of tempered parts of the lock? I understand it's not how it's supposed to break a bit, but it's still more info. Oh, you also forgot to check the inner lock to see if as your assumption that there were more basic pins was correct or not, but fun video as always.
@Bosnianbill. Thanks for the lockpicking video. Always educational.
Hope you and your family stay safe, well, and have a Happy Thanksgiving.
Bill, you should turn the lock over 180° and try picking it. These locks are never found with the key way on the bottom. They are always mounted key way top, pins on bottom. Makes picking a bit more difficult.
What is the hardest Euro cylinder you have picked to date?
Yes, this is a frequent comment, usually from viewers in Europe where the locks are mounted that way. However, the entire world is not Europe and many countries mount locks with the pins oriented at the top to keep water from pooling in the pin stacks and corroding them. The lock really does not know which way it is mounted, as the springs exert identical pressure on the pins no matter which way it is oriented. Insofar as ease of picking - it is equally easy (or difficult) in either direction. The only variable is what you are used to and which orientation you practice in.
Pick it again with it in the vice the correct way up Bill!!
Very interesting lock, Yale should make their US locks like that. Enjoyed it Bill, always a good enjoyable experience watching you. Love your intros also! 👍🏻
Did you put those last two pins in reverse?
I'm still proud of our british standard kitemarks and regulations, it's a pain but they really do ensure quality and safety in a LOT of different situations.
All the pins are shouldered with various shoulder heights to stop bumping, the bottom of the pins sit at different heights depending on bitting. The plate in the lower part of the keyway stops the drivers entering the keyway as it is wide. Suspect the cylinder is from a Spanish company called Tessa, looking at the plate at the bottom of the keyway. They make another series with a 7th pin that needs a sprung loaded pin on the key blank/key to push the driver (on the opposite side) free.
Will that last pin fit in the hole on that metal plate that fell out from the bottom? Maybe it is a safety feature...when you turn it 180 degrees without a key...idk
Bill, how many locks do you figure you pick in a day, on average?
Does it matter which way the lock is oriented? Could it be picked if it was upside down? If so would it be harder?
I'm no expert, but someone posted above that with the bible up, a picked keypin would be loose, which can be felt. Bible down, the keypin rests on the driver pin as normal so the picker has less information.
The 'Kitemark' is a British Standard marking.
These Yale Locks go to a much higher than the base Kitemark standard model for increased security.
I am told, that British lock tolerances, especially when Kitemarked, are pretty precise compared to the standards or many other manufacturers, including the USA.
This is not intended as a criticism, just to help identify better quality Locks.
That PN04 is well used. :-)
There are 3 star levels for Euro BS cylinders in the UK. The main criteria for BS euro cylinders is the resistance to physical attacks like snapping, drilling, plug pulling etc. you may want to pull those springs out you will see that the last 4 pins are shorter due to the lack of chamber space which accommodates the ball bearing protruding from the side.
Thanks bill
Was that pin 6 designed to lock up in an overset position? Seems that once the top made it past the sheer line you would have a hard time dropping back down without strategic counter rotation or resetting. Not an expert, not even good enough to be a beginner, but love your vids and just sharing my thought. Thanks
There are 4 levels of kite Mark. That was standard, then there is 1, 2 & 3 stars above. With 3 star being the hardest! I’ve been stuck on a 1 star for months now 😢
When that lock is snapped, does it leave you with essentially a 3-pin-lock? And make it easy to pick? Or will the snapping also block that side of the core?
No, a 4-pinner. No, more difficult because it'll be harder to tension. Very likely.
@@bosnianbill there are some locks which kill the outer core when snapped.
As these cylinders are usually used in upvc door applications they have a protruding ball bearing so they can only be inserted into the lock case when the handle set is removed, If you snapped the cylinder the broken piece would be difficult to remove as its profile is different to that of the handle best way to describe it would be trying to put a square peg in a round hole, and unless it was removed you would not be able to get at the last 4 pins to even attempt to pick them.
The "shim" at the bottom of the keyway looks to be an attempt at locking the cylinder if its picked without the key? In a upvc door the key needs to rotate passed 180 degrees to unlock the door
It stops pins from fouling the key when it is rotated past 180°.
@@RWBHere its not in a non kite marked version of the same lock. and why a hole that lines up with a pin if its meant to stop that pin fouling
The Kitemark. I remember growing up in the UK in the Seventies. They were a big deal. British Standards Institution... If it had a kitemark on it, it had been properly tested and approved to be safe and meet all its claims. Seems to be some sort of private enterprise today... I wonder if a kitemark is still like that or of it's now something you can pay your way to like a really good TrustPilot rating... I do have a kitemarked Yale Superior on my front door. LPL picked one fairly easily but I bought it as it defeats lock snapping. People with the skill and dedication to learn lock picking have better things to do than nick your telly
Cool video, but you switched driver pins 5 and 6, Bill. The trap pin people here keep calling "6" is actually "5", and vice-versa.
Looks like a C4 keyway. Very common in Australia.
Everyone loves a bastard Yale! I put one in every single package i send out lol
So if you did snap the outside portion of it, would you then only have a few pins left to pick, or would the whole thing seize up?
I assume you could still pick it, because part of the goal for the snapping feature is that you can still open it with the key after an attack. Locks like the Ultion (and probably others) will seal themselves shut if snapped a second time.
Popular euro in the UK is the UAP 1* which i replaced a yale with :)
Didn't know it was supposed to be a kite, ever since I was young and I saw it on the doors and 'yale' locks I thought it was a heart
Ice cream cone for me. I think it actually is supposed to be made of the letters "B" (British), "S" (Standard) and "V" (Verification), but it is officially called the "Kitemark".
@@MartinIbert ah ok, the 'b' s' 'v' thing makes sense
@@MartinIbert I think it's BSI: British Standards Institute.
@@qwertyTRiG That's not what BSI Group say. They say it was originally BSV.
@@MartinIbert I'd be interested to read that, if you have a link.
hey bill, i love your videos! but why don’t you show a more realistic setting... more like in a door or hasp for padlocks. as a hobby picker, ive helped my friends get back into their homes after locking themselves out. it’s a lil more difficult when in a door! lol
What if, thinking about that bitting, for a 6 pin lock, pin 5 (being a really deep cut) was locked in place unless a key was inserted--so that you really were forced to work around pin 5 to get to pin 6 (assuming that setting 6 before 5 is a strategy that can aid getting around pin 5)? Anyone have any thoughts on that? Of course Bill and LPL would just come up with a custom tensioner to simulate a key being present, but wouldn't this add to the difficulty and time to pick? Hey Bill, any of your lock maker friends wanna comment on that?
Pin 6 would only drop down if the driver pin was reduced size. That almost spool like key pin looks designed to be overset and get stuck up in the shear line.
High security locks need to protect against attacks other than drilling and picking, so I'm guessing that 6th pin is an anti-bumping pin. Bounce it up, the plug turns a tiny bit and the pin doesn't come down again.
Man I kept holding my breath through that, I don't know who was sweating more
I have always seen the "kitemark" as an ice cream cone with two scoops of ice cream sticking out!
And I interpret it as a heart with a horizontal line and letter S.
thanks for posting
We have loads better euro cylinder locks in the UK that don’t bear the kitemark symbol. You tend to find kitemark ones being the more expensive options in DIY stores off the shelf kind. The proper high security stuff are a completely different ball game.
for my first lock picks i am getting some peterson picks. I chose a hook 1, a gem hook, a city rake, a half diamond and a top of the key way tension tool. Do you think that is good just for now or do you think that i should add anything else?
Don't mention Peterson to Bill... They did some scummy stuff and Bill got rid of all his Peterson paraphernalia.
@@eak125 oh
@@eak125 what did they do
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They put all their overstock picks into a set, over charged for it and then overcharged for shipping...
Definitely mixed up the upstairs section pin 5 and 6 when taking apart
I have a few practice dimple locks, acrylic and cutaway, of this style, but I am curious as to how these locks are used. The length of the lock is greater than average door thickness. Are these locks installed in the door frame with the latch notch in the door? And why would you want the inside to require a key to open?
British doors tend to be thicker than you might be used to, and these locks will fit most doors. As for having the key inside; because post comes through the door every external door will have a letter box, so it’s relatively easy to put a tool through and twist - not so if you need a key internally as well.
Also the lock usually passes through the door handles which makes the door significantly thicker again.
What is the specific model? Is it this: "Yale YALPKM4045PB X6 Kitemark Euro Double Cylinder 40 x 45 95mm Polished Brass Visi"?
Where do you buy this lock?
If you broke off the outer part, would it still be pickable and if so would it be easier
that is one BIG tension wrench!
The kite mark is the “British standard” kite mark.
Indeed. See: www.bsigroup.com/en-GB/kitemark/product-testing/
Yes.. one of the Logos i studied at Art College...
They wanted a design that didn't look like BS. I think they pulled it off. :)
@@JediBuddhist The trade mark was first used in 1903, so very much a design of the time. Glad they've not tried to update it since!
Yes, and in line with kitemarked locks being of a higher standard the corresponding burglars should be kitemarked since they seem to find a way through/around them anyway.
Aha. I thought that mark looked familiar, and not in a lock context.
Just a curiosity, but why is it that so many of these cores (of various brands) seem to be imprinted with the name upside-down to the keyway? I understand the core might be oriented in various directions, but still.....
The lock shown in this video is called Euro cylinder and Euro cylinder locks are designed to be installed in orientation where bible is under the keyway. Are you saying that some Euro cylinder locks have the branding upside down?
You should try a UAP Kinetica 3star kitemark cylinder one of the highest ratings you can get here in the UK
Thats a good lock. I think the higher the kite mark, the higher physical protection.🤔🍺✌🇦🇺
Yeah that's it. You sometimes see stars added to the kite mark with the top ones being 3 stars. That normally means things like pin in pin, magnetic elements, side pins (sometimes), anti drill pinning everywhere, anti snap, security pins, and so on.
How that bottom plate looked I wonder if and when the front is snapped off it pulls that plate and renders pin six jammed to prevent further tampering to break in.
I no longer feel bad that I couldn't pick the lock that I took off of my front door, it was a Yale conforming to the same British Standard as this (in a rim cylinder format)
Might be 6 was shaped that way to fall into the hole on the unknown piece as a counter to over rotation without a key.
Dropping into that hole at the least would keep the key from bottoming out telling the owner something is wrong.
That is good picking Bill.
Love these locks here in the UK because any burglar that breaks them in the hope they aren't anti snap means we get to replace the whole door because of all the damage done forcefully opening the door.
That last key pin I think I would consider it a shallow spool
Kitemarked products were a common sight in UK homes even before Brexit[1]. Membership of the European Union did NOT prevent the application of the Kitemark to British Standards Institute compliant products. It's a common misconception that the CE mark replaced the Kitemark - it did not. The CE mark is not equivalent, it's a (usually 'self-assessed') declaration that the product complies with at least one of the relevant standards as regulated by any one of the 27 [2] national standards organisations of EU member countries, e.g. BSI, DIN, DS etc. Standards did once vary widely across the EU [3] but the 'harmonisation' process - led, largely, before Brexit by the BSI - has caused European standards to converge over time to an agreed uniform quality standard. Just, in fact, what the EU exists to do for business and commerce.
The 'getting our Kitemark back' schtick was one of the many lies that the Leave campaign spewed in advance of the UK Brexit referendum. Along with losing pint glasses in pubs, the banning of iconic British food items like 'Fish & Chips', losing our distinctive 3 pin electrical wall outlet sockets and having to use tiny European needledick condoms on our mighty British penises - as well as a million other bits of made up nonsense.
[1] Try looking at plug fuses for example. Many carry the Kitemark.
[2] 28 before Brexit.
[3] Highly dangerous breast enlargement 'PIP' brand implants back in the early 2000s got their CE mark by complying with a very badly drawn Hungarian standard for medical devices. The scandal affected hundreds of thousands of women across Europe.
Although in most cases, the Kitemark had to be accompanied by the CE mark OR by the relevant EU compliance standard 'EN xxx' or 'BS EN xxx' ID number.
British Standards Kite Mark, what more can I say other than to keep away from the inferior one of the CE that thinks its better than the rest Lol
Nicely picked & gutted Bill ;-)
Well Britain is close to truly throwing out the organization behind the CE mark. On your own heads be it.
@@johndododoe1411 : It can't come soon enough for us Brits! ;-)
The CE mark should have been contributed to by the UK as part of the membership - has anyone compared the BS existing standard to the present CE one. i suspect CE might relate to materials used rather than method of assembly - ie there is no present clear harmonised lock agreement for specified situations and local countries can determine their own requirements as needed . Problem with CE in general is that it is self-certified by vendors of products so the mark has been more important than the undelying quality
@@highpath4776 A few CE marks require certification. For locks, I just read a guide to BS certified locks that claimed that CE certification under a different standard were required for locks in fire proof doors. That other CE mark would be exclusively for fire resistant building materials such as the door itself.
@@plug4uk696 Speak for yourself. We're going up shit creek, no paddle because Boris forgot one, and a hole in the canoe because NOTHING is prepared in advance, We can't even find out where we need international driving licences for.
Why didn't you put your holder on the other side and put it in vice?
I don’t do any picking myself, but find these videos interesting. What was this lock used to secure? I’m guessing it’s a door lock.
This lock has the shape of a 'euro cylinder'. It was meant to be mounted in an outside facing door or window. The snapline section being on the outside. To counter 'the bulgarian way' of opening the lock. This method relies on an adustable wrench (Bahco) put on top over the protruding part of the cylinder and then jerking the handle.
@@Pozi_Drive thanks, that’s what I figured. Looks like it would be used in a dead bolt lock or similar.
@@M60E3MG Here's an example:
www.nemef.nl/nl/site/nemefnl/producten/achterdeuren/veiligheidssloten/
If a kitemark makes a difference, I wonder what a 1-star Superior or a 3-star Platinum does?
IIRC, the only difference is in the level of snap protection. The 1-star (or just plain kitemark, if it was certified early enough) has the sort of passive anit-snap features we saw here (reinforced spine, sacrificial cuts; and the anti-drill features on both sides of the cut). IIRC, the 3-star ones have more of the same and also (at least in every one I've seen) some sort of active anti-snap protection as well (think permanently coupling the actuator to the safe-side chamber if a spine snap is detected).
From an insurance / security standpoint, 3-star locks can be used on their own, provided they are properly fitted into any (generic) door hardware. 1-star locks can be used, but should only be used when properly fitted into hardened 2-star door furniture - typically handles with integrated cylinder guard (or standalone cylinder guards), with toughened steel cylinder guards / backplates, and with the outside plate fixed to the door by bolts passing through the core of the door and fastened on the safe-side.
Just found your channel. Not a lock picking hobbyist (yet) but it's very interesting to watch. However, as a Bosnian in US, I'm just wondering why your nickname is "BOSNIAN BILL"? You have absolutely no accent, so I highly doubt you're from B&H. What's the connection with the country, if it's not a secret? And my apologies if you've already answered this somewhere.. didn't see all the videos yet, only a handful. Thank you! ~ a curious duck.
I believe his early videos were posted while he was in service in the US Military. At the time I believe he was stationed in Bosnia, but I’m not 100% sure
What the heck are the two ball-bearings in the Bible for? That thin metal plate might be so that if the fool that tried to snap the lock also pulled that plate out, the rest of the lock jams up. Maybe the ball-bearings are to prevent the lock being pulled out through the front of the door, or the opposite, to prevent it being hammered through
There are some locks carrying the kitemark which are an absolute embarrassment when it comes to pick resistance like the overly complicated Yale/Millenco Magnum.
New camera ? Focus was better. Might be luck.
"I have never see that before. Only guess is make the cylinder solid. That if the cylinder is rotated 90 degrees or more while it is disassembled it will keep the upper bible pins from falling down.
How do you get in if someone has snapped off the front part?
Many ways: Crowbar, sledgehammer, jackhammer, stick of dynamite....
The key will still work .
That lock beat you up, very impressive it stood up to your skills
hahaha, the KM is such an easy pick, once you know their feel. Very similar to a Gege when you first meet one. Just be super gentle, or you’re in clicking hell. Fun fact, they rake like a mo fo, it’s literally a terrible vulnerability of the Yale KM😛😛🤣🤣♥️
Why are you picking it upside down?
I don't know why Bill is so interested in these things. Here in USA (oooo-sahhh) we don't have anti-this lock or something-proof-that lock, we just populate our houses with disagreeable dogs and less agreeable firearms while holding doors closed with cellophane tape.
I have one of these exact same cylinders, and this video has made me feel a lot better about my inability to pick it 🤣
It's for sale if anyone is interested
How much
@@jamesnichols7583 I'm open to offers. It comes with two keys
6 minutes wow! Would take me all of ... one second with the key..! 🤣🤣🤣
The kitemark is our British Standards symbol - not just on locks!
I'm glad you had trouble with this one, I have two in my collection and they are a sod.
By the way there are plenty of kite marked locks out there that are considerably poorer than this. Usually the kite mark is accompanied by either one or three stars, one star locks range from terrible to decent, three stars are usually pretty good.
I would like to see how the Wendt bell corepuller would go against the kite it makes short meat of everything I have seen so far
Couldn’t you have put that rubber hold bung over the other end , then into the clamp? Seems like there’s no lumps coming of the other end of lock. Just saying.😜