It's TIME! The Surprisingly Dark Origins Of The Clock King | William Tockman
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- The Clock King may have a seemingly simple and off the wall motif in his original silver age version, from DC comics, but he's darker than some may imagine. Starting off life as a run of the mill villain for Green Arrow, and later being part of a group to take on the Justice League, Clock King would find himself re-imagined in the bronze age. He would come back with a burning hatred for Oliver Queen. The reason, a dead family member. Just what does this have to do with Ollie? Find out as we take a look at the first Clock King, William Tockman, here on Casually Comics!
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There are a lot of Green Arrow villains that become Batman villains. I guess they all got tired of Ollie lecturing them on and on.
If I was a supervillain, and I had to pick between getting all of my bones broken by Batman or having Green Arrow go on a diatribe about the failures of the electoral college for two hours, I would choose the former without hesitation. At least Gotham has good health insurance.
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 If it hadn't the number of handicapped prisoners would be up a thousandfold
You know in that panel from "HTH" (14:08) when Hal's confronted by the black man, he's slumping his head because he only wishes that man would remember him for the planes he flew, not the skin colors of the people he's helped.
Riddler actually made more sense in his short time as a Green Arrow villian. He was less croweded out by the big batman rogue gallery and not confused with Jokers stuff
That sounds like a lot of fun, what issues have that?
@@skygann4040 the time I saw Riddler going at Green Arrow was back in the mid-2000, around issues 35 & 36. It was a multi part story.
There's a lot of DC villains that feel like they could do really well getting shared around a bit more, to find more interesting dynamics or be less crowded out, and Batman's villains get that a LOT.
@@EinDose The Acts of Vengeance storyline tried to do that over at Marvel. The house of ideas is not always the house of...accomplishment.
@@EinDose Eclipso and Dr. Light "got around".
His bronze age origin makes his silver age sad face be really disturbing when you think about it
Its him realizing he will waste his last months in prison while no one will be there for his sister
Any time Sasha has the chance to reference "heart traveling heroes" she'll take it, it's basically her "my parents are dead!!!" moment
I really like what they did with the Temple Fugate version of Clock King in the JLU Task force X episode, where they used him to plan out the exact timing for the raid on the watchtower,. I think it would be neat to see him positioned as a villainous counterpart to Oracle, helping other criminals try to perfectly time manage their crimes in exchange for money
They already did the villainous counterpart for Oracle idea with another previously goofy D-lister, The Calculator. His thing is computers and information however, so not quite the same thing.
@@Mechazaurus his original costume was just as goofy as Clock King’s, though.
@@Mechazaurus They should go into business together. They'd make for one hell of a villain team aiding other villains. The Calculator amasses intel and the Clock King uses it to have the most precise timing of his life.
I guess you could say the clock king is... Timeless
"guy gets diagnosed with terminal illness, having a family member who depends on him. He turns to a life of crime to assure his family won't have any financial issues after he is gone"... Heard that before... Or after
Tale as old as time lol
Breaking Bad
Agree with the BTAS clock king, I love that he's not particularly strong in any way, but he's so incredibly meticulous about everything. If you manage to make batman seemed unprepared, you know you're on another level
As a latina i wanna thank you for adressing the “latinx” thing even if it was just mentioning it. It feels that most people have just accepted it as a way to refer to us while not caring gofre our opinions on the word :( thanks Sasha!!! Really ❤
I can’t remember if it was supposed to be the Clock King or not, but I remember watching an episode of the 2004 animated series “The Batman”, where a guy who I think worked at a clock store learned to control (or at least rewind) time while in prison. The episode still stands out in my mind because he set up a poisonous gas bomb or something and it actually went off and killed everyone, including Batman, Robin, and Batgirl if I remember correctly. However, it accidentally killed his son, and he was so upset that in his grief, he rewound time all the way back to when he was about to commit the crime he was arrested for, but this time, he decided not to commit the crime. I think as a kid, it scared me to think that Batman actually died., though looking back, it was a pretty solid episode with a good bit of emotions.
Which episode was this?
@@s-wo8781 season 4 episode 8 titled Seconds
I loved that episode as a kid. I've always had a soft spot for stories where the hero isn't the real protagonist of the tale.
I was thinking the same thing! That was a great episode
I just watched it recently and it's easily one of my favorite episodes of the entire show.
Wow... this clashes IMMENSELY with Clock King's later depiction in the JLI comics as part of Major Disaster's Injustice League, where the whole gang was made up of comedic loser villains.
Can't believe this victim of malpractice who tragically lost his sister and went on a suicidal revenge rampage later went on to battle killer penguins as part of Justice League Antarctica.
Yeah, a lot of the Injustice League villains from that era have weird backstories that don't really fit with the cartoonish buffoons they became. Multi-Man was a major enemy of the Challengers of the Unknown, appearing probably a dozen times, sometimes with his own supervillain group (the League of Challenger-Haters). Big Sir has some serious issues in his backstory. And Major Disaster had incredibly useful powers until he showed up in the JLI era. But Giffen didn't care about any of that. He didn't even care that Green Flame and Icemaiden had their own backstories when he made them join the JLI. And while I appreciate his Fire & Ice characters, he knew nothing about *businesswoman* Beatriz DaCosta or the blue-skinned Sigrid Nansen.
Basically, Giffen just flipped through "Who's Who in the DC Universe" to find characters to use and did no more research than looking at the pictures.
@@SimonMoon5 Yeah, as someone who played the DC Heroes RPG in college, it always surprised me how badass Blue Beetle was compared to his depiction in the book. Which makes him a great starting character for one-shot adventures.
There used to be a "thing", a trope, going back to the Golden Age, where random, anonymous characters were featured or 'starred' in stories where the heroes and villains were more the side characters. It was a great way to change up the stories, maybe get more serious, more tragic, or more silly. Nate is a great example of this, so I'd give him his moment.
Of course, Will Eisner did it roughly one thousand times better.
Honestly I'm rather concerned about where those giant arrows from the Arrow Signal land. People in Star City must be constantly dogging them
Me Too 👊🏾😎🖖🏾
Also, the giant arrow could be considered a clock's hand!😁
I’m adopting this headcanon as my own
I honestly thought Clock King was a original character when I saw him in Batman TAS, because I never heard of him around that point. Later, watching the very first episode of Batman: The Brave and the Bold with Green Arrow, I was so surprised to see his early design was just "a literal Clock King" with a crown. Jumping to Arrow, I thought they straight up stole him from Batman, because that's what Arrows usually does, but he's a Green Arrow villain. Turns out, I learned a lot about Clock King periodically through my life lol
"Today we're 'tocking' about the clock king"
''Let's just say I am civic minded citizen with a lot of time on his hands'' The Clock King, Batman animated series.
I love that the animated Batman series villainous origin of the Clock King is simply that Temple Fugate, instead of his usual schedule, took a break at 3:15 in the park under the advice of Hamilton Hill. Temple proceeded to have Murphy's law take full effect and results in making him late to his court case and in turn making him bankrupt, so he subsequently blames Hamilton Hill for being...Late and making him into a villain, LOL :P
It's Clocking Time!
I gotta say I love how neutral you are! Avoiding the latinx term that seems to keep being pushed on us even though the majority of people for who it would describe don’t like it is so refreshing! Especially when it seems like every creator now days just jumps on bandwagon with stuff
I just say “Latine” as a compromise
I wish we still lived in an era were B or C list heroes were still allowed to have rouges galleries, hell, when heroes in GENERAL were allowed to have rouges galleries rather than just that one villain that had a super cool point to make in the 80s and they've just been remaking it since.
*coughs cough* Joker *cough*
The problem is that, when every story arc takes 6 months to resolve, there's no time to fit in five or six stories a year with unimpressive villains.
I kinda like Marvel's idea of a massive stable of Mercs and crooks who will z-list for anybody.
The classic costume is amazing, but the BEST clock king outfit was from the Brave and the Bold cartoon. They took the King part literally and it worked really well. And then as for an underrated clock king adaptation, Francis Grey from The Batman episode "seconds" was always super tragic to me, that episode is also just done really well.
Got to hand it to you, I wouldn't be able face doing a retrospective on Clock King, especially down to the minute details you tend to find and present to us (frankly it ticks me off how underappreciated you are in doing this).
I'm sure I'm seconding the opinions of others who've said all this before, but thank you for bringing your brand of humour into hour lives.
...tock.
The amount of clock puns is cringe-worthy.
@@luigiboi4244 a good cringe
This review is dialed in
@@luigiboi4244 And this was just the stuff I had straight off the wrist. I felt like I was getting a little strapped, maybe going a little cuckoo, feeling that towering feeling looming overhead, I honestly thought I needed to stop...
...Hammertime.
That's a lawsuit waiting to happen. that arrow launched from the roof must have hit someone at least once. That's a good reason for Ollie to have a secret identity so he can't get sued.
It’s about time you did a Clock King review, I want to see what makes him tick. I can see you worked overtime to get this video right, but you made it clock in at the right length, which is good because in your job time is money. I can’t wait to enjoy every second of this.
Also, I really hope in the Tom King book Temple Fugate isn’t revealed to be a TikTok influencer, that would be a lazy incorporation to show the signs of the times.
That idea was bad that I died of cringe and came back in the reboot.
Wow, you put a lot of work into those puns! After a job well done, it’s theme to relax. Go ahead. Clock out early!😉👍
I'm not sure if I love this comment or hate it
@@halfmettlealchemist8076 😄
Well played good sir, well played.
The Brave and Bold cartoon is the best one for me. With an updated version of Silver Age costume and his german accent, he is very cool!
I would love to see a Clock King decide to go by King Clock because someone already has the other name lol
If we're talking favourites, of course Temple Fugate is gonna be up there, but let me present another name:
Francis Grey. The Clock King of "The Batman" episode "Seconds", voiced by Dave Foley.
A man so tormented by the choices he made, he developed the ability to undo them. Able to jump back in time with knowledge of what's going to happen, this power turned a frankly schlubby, inept criminal into a legitimate force of nature (albeit one stuck in the past and having a terrible sense of humour)
I’ll bet Cher will take some of that action! I mean, if SHE could turn back time…..!!
Definitely gonna look up that episode now, thanks! Great series, great plot, and I loves me some David Foley! (Kids in the Hall fan)
I'm right on time!!!
I'm a fan of Clock King as chief planner for the Suicide Squad. Finally, some respect for his true skills!
Something funny about rubbing a character's dead sister in by just having the words be a prominent feature in the thumbnail lol
Im with you on with Temple Fugate from BTAS. Also seems the most competent. Though my first Clock King was Walter Slezak on Batman 66, where no scenery was left unchewed.
The name has to be a play on "tempus fugit". (Time flies, in Latin.)
"... you did worse than that. YOU MADE ME LATE!!" Because sometimes, "criminally insane" is reason enough.
I think the real problem is BTAS took the name "Clock King" and stuck in on an original character .... really unnecessary at that because he's less of a Clock King and more of a Time Lord.
What do you mean, that's taken too? Taken by whom? By who? That's just poor grammar.
I mean, DC had its own Time Lord in "The Lord of Time", a Justice League villain now generally known as Epoch to avoid confusion, but he'll always be The Lord of Time (not Epoch) to me.
I really appreciate the way you share these stories and explain their weaknesses-like how Nate saying he felt outmoded didn't relate thematically to anything else in the story-without being overly derisive of the comics/stories. Like, you don't sugarcoat it and pretend that every story is perfect, but you aren't mean about it either. It makes it much easier to learn about the craft/art of storytelling, since there's no off-putting sneering or condescension to wade through. As always, thank you for making videos that brighten my day!
The hours of folly are measured by the clock; but of wisdom, no clock can measure
I've known of Clock King since watching Batman the Brave and the Bold but never actually knew anything about him. I never thought you'd do a video on him lol.
It’s about time you got to do this episode.😊
I keep hearing glock king.
Lol that would be a very different villain
Love your version(s) of the story! I definitely like the idea of the Clock King being obsessed with time due to a terminal illness or other reason he is 'living on borrowed time'. Maybe he could get some mileage as a villainous counterpart to the Challengers of the Unknown; with his life spared from certain death by a miracle, he is now obsessed with his every remaining second, and commits crimes to fund efforts to live the rest of his borrowed time to the fullest? If you want social commentary, you could also work a 'medical debt wipes out his fortune' angle, and play that against Ollie's own on-again-off-again wealth?
I love your edits on the bronze age ... DC should hire you
You also fixed that Batgirl story 😺
I've been waiting for this video. It's about time .
OMG, that was fun. Okay, back to the rest of my day.
He should have used a TIME bomb. Anyway, I liked him in BTAS, I think he used time based puzzles in it, the kind you find in math textbooks. I think I actually like the Green Arrow more as the friendly, rich Robin Hood cosplayer than the Batman wannabe he is in Arrow.
The Killing Time is one of those rare examples of Tom King sticking to a decent story and actually landing the plane
has clock king ever gone up against hour man! would be an interesting match up
Nate needs to team up with old-time Green Lantern sidekick Doiby Dickles.
So holdup Clock King is OG Jigsaw? What a twist!
The first time I saw Clock King was as a Batman villain so I'm surprised he started out as a Green Arrow villain
since i never was into reading DC that where i knew the name from and even then i mistook him for the riddler at first during the episode (the cane and hat). He actually could be a decent criminal cause he would know how long it took for the police to respond and be constant checking to be sure he didn't stay to long at a job. Ollie could been always a min late or more getting to his crime scene.
How in the world did Clock King ever see anything?
I guess i had perfect timing
Deastroke's family deserves own video series. Like, an actual series. By the way, I would love to hear your opinion on original origin of how Deastroke lost an eye.
I’d really like that too! Rose is great and most folks can agree on that. I personally think Jericho is an underutilized character with a lot of potential, but we need to talk about Grant. He got killed the issue after his debut to be motivation for Deathstroke’s Teen Titans hatred.
I always found Clock King fascinating and I am surprised he got his start as a Green Arrow villain
Dr Tyme is cooler. He stayed committed to the silver age look too ;)
Arrow Car. Arrow Signal, Kid Sidekick…You missed out on mentioning the Arrow Cave AKA The Quiver ( Thanks Injustice Harley) next TIME 🖖🏾
I'd love to see you tackle the second (and superior) Clock King!
finally i’m early!!
This video has good timing. 🕐
I loved his Shakespearean incarnation in the Batman brave and the bold animated series.
What a absolutely crazy name eh 😂 I absolutely love the silly goose time and idea of silver age villains
I want to know if his bronze age mask actually ticks. Is it accurate? Can it tell time, I must know!
Clock King was also part of the *slightly incompetent Injustice League and Justice League Antarctica.* It's time JL Ant. makes a return, the world needs them.
13:20 words cannot express how much I appreciate you for this 💜
It would be cool if he went from his btas look to the silver age design and then to chronos or a team up
I'm always impressed by the editing in these videos.
Batman seriously stole a lot of villains from Green Arrow...
I kind of like that 60's costume
I love it, lol it makes a bold statement.
@@CasuallyComics If that statement is "10:10." ( I mean, I think - it's hard to tell since his faceclock seems to have two minute hands) But at least his face is correct twice a day.
Clock King! Nice. One of my favorites growing up. His Silver Age 1st appearance was when I first saw him, though it was as a reprint in the awesome and far too short lived series "Wanted" (also my 1st experience with Signal Man, whose costume was so cool I would roleplay him as a hero). World's Finest, Superman Family, other anthologies like that were great for little gems like this one, but boy did it make rereading that Wanted story very different. Especially knowing back then Ollie had the money to easily pay for CK's sisyer's care had he looked into it. I had seen Willard Waterman's (Harold Peary?) Clock King and a comedy Justice League issue with him (not my style), and even assumed they'd have updated the character at least once in modern times, but I did 't realize he was that guy from the 90s Batman show. Very interesting; I'll have to check out if he is just using the name or if they kept any of that backstory. Another cool video.
From the patient files of Dr. Jeremiah Arkham, Director of Arkham Asylum.
Patient: Temple Fugate, aka the "Clock King".
Obsessive. Compulsive. Narcissistic. Highly Resourceful. Incredibly Inventive. Genius Level Intellect.
Addendum: Keep the patient away from any and all mechanical and electric devices - especially clocks.
Addendum 2: Allow the patient access to the Asylum Library once a day.
Addendum 3: Refrain from mentioning the mayor - Hamilton Hill, to/in front of the patient, as it tends to upset him, or lend to violent outbursts.
The Hard Travelling Heroes bit is just so hilarious. Just absolutely no and I mean NO subtlety at all its so great
🤔 Did those Giant Red Arrows used for the Arrow Signal have a safe Landing Location 🎶 TIME AFTER TIME 🎶 “I Have Questions”Lol…BTAS Clock King is prove’s copy writing a Good Name could pay off for you over TIME …The Narration theme does work well in say Kingdom Come with an Entity like the Spectre …Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
I guess you say it’s time for a reveal
It’s great to hear all the sordid details behind obscure villains. Thank you!
I wish J. M. DeMatteis and Keith Giffen had addressed the Clock King on their classic Justice League run. I can see Booster Gold and Blue Beetle discussing his name.
CK: “I am the Clock King!”
BG: “The Clucking? You have chicken based powers?”
BB: “Maybe he turns people into chickens?”
CK: “No! Clock King!”
BG: “It might be a speech impediment.”
BB: “I think he’s having a stroke.”
CK: “Clock King! Clock King!”
BG: “Yeah. It’s a stroke.”
It's probably just as well Dali's "The Persistence of Memory" never turned up in Star City. Or would melty clocks not count as real clocks for the Clock King?
Finally the perfect time to watch a video on the Clock King and 14:06 aged like a fine wine🤣
I always mix him up with Chronos. Apparently they used to team up... with Calendar Man and Time Commander.
Up against Hour Man or Minute Man.
Again
Why we sleeping on Brave and the Bold Clock King?
Better outfit, better gimmickiness, Fights Batman AND Green Arrow
He ain't got the motive, but damn if he don't got the spirit
There's a bad pun in the title. Instant like.
Are you planning on covering the Temple Fugate version as well at some point?
That 70s line towards Green Lantern I always thought was a pretty good jab at silver age heroes that always seemed to help affluent people and rarely helped poorer people who may be just mugged or robbed.
But it wasn't until years later I realized most heroes probably do help average people moreso it's just that 1. The writers and artists don't show that most of the time because they think the mostly child centered audience would find that boring and 2. That was at a time when comics were taking a more "watchmen" like approach to comics in contrast to real world issues in that even though they were probably a dozen heroes in most urban areas the crime rate was just as high as real world figures.
Also I later found it odd that everyone wanted someone like Hal to be working smaller crimes like assault and robbery when the purpose of the lantern corps was to patrol and handle larger threats to Entire Planets.
Finally, it's about "time" Sasha mentioned King Clown.
If they really wanted us to like Nate, they could have done a homage to that famous clock scene from the Harold Lloyd comedy " Safety Last", with Nate hanging from the hour hand instead of Harold Lloyd.
You mean, when in doubt, go...clockwise?
I like your story suggestions!
He sounds like he would be associated with Hourman rather than Green Arrow.
Clock king, Temple Figett right from the greatest Batman TAS👍 right 🤔
I did not anticipate this video having a dramatic reading of the Green Lantern "purpleskins" quote. LMAO
Sister, SISTER! Never knew how much I missed ya. Now that everybody knows, I ain't ever gonna let you gooooooo. SISTER SISTER!
"William Tockman, you have failed this city!"
I'd have love to see a reinterpretation where Tokkman's tragic backstory is used as a sort of transition for green arrow from cocky rival to soft lefty
So which Clock King is the one that's into time travel? I *think* it's Tockman, but I'm not sure. I know one of them was because he was used as an excuse to put Green Arrow and Speedy in the Seven Soldiers of Victory in the Infinite Frontier timeline. Here's to retcons, the cause of and solution to all timeline problems!
Every time you mention Hard Travelling Heroes, I'm going to mention Scooby-Doo Team-Up №25 (print numbering)/№49&50 (digital numbering) which pokes fun at that run, even homaging specific panels or covers. At least for the first half, the second half starts making fun of Arrow instead. Hey, Clock King even gets a mention in that one!
Man, they did Speedy dirty. Also, dead on about Hard Traveling Heroes.
finally Speedy has a voice!
This reveal in Killing Time was so dope
Where does the arrow from the Arrow Signal go if it is an actual arrow launched from a rooftop?
Temple Fugate was by far the best. Circumstances destroyed his business and drove him mad. In response he used his predilection toward timeliness as a weapon of revenge against a world he feels conspired to ruin his former life.
God, I love this channel.
I love the disco welding Clock King from the Doom Patrol TV series. That was a F***ed up epidsode (like they all are).
Watching Sasha talk about the Green Arrow is like watching a kid eat vegetables. But I like both Sasha and Ollie, so I'm happy.
I have a quick question, if i stapled a watch to my hip would time be on my side
The BTAS Clock King was awesome. I'd like to see that version appear in live action.
Should a normal person fear death in DC/Marvel comics? Unless they get wiped from existence we know there’s a plethora of after lifes in the comics. If anything you’d think it would be more reason to be good because Batman can sit down, look you in the eyes, and say “Hell is real. I’ve seen it. I’ve been there. One of my ally’s comes from it. It’s not worth being petty.”
Yes, Sasha! Make a Clock List. ⏰🤴🏼
Alright, lady, do some Rippaverse now.