If you you want more information about these two hubs then check out this video. I fulfilled a viewer’s request and conducted a speed test: Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test! ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
Thank you. It would be more helpful though if you actually named a winner of the two. There are differences between the 2 beyond storage space, eg transfer speeds & powered vs non powered. Quizlab seems better on the specs but it’s a less well known brand, so I’m uncertain if it’s equally good.
Hello, I just got a Mac Mini 2023 M2 16RAM, and I read that these hubs have issues with the system wifi. It drops the downloading connection 50% even 80% in some cases. Any info regarding that matter? Thank you.
Great video man! Thanks! I think the Qwiizlab is supposed to seat on your Mac mini. Its rubber feet would keep your Mac aluminum body safe from scratches. But if you put the Mac mini seating on the Qwiizlab it would slide and scratch the hub. Just saying.
Thanks for the positivity Marcos. Means a lot. There is no way my mind would have allowed me to even consider putting the Qwiizlab on top..LOL…But you are probably right.
there’s a Satechi model that has an NVME slot as well. not an SSD though. still i like the indentation for the bottom of the Mac Mini. i’m a sucker for aesthetics. also, the Satechi’s finish matches the Mac Mini’s finish perfect. the Quiizlab’s finish is a little different. again, aesthetics.
I have an M2 Mac Mini and after trying both of the hubs in this review, I found the OWC Stack STX hub with Thunderbolt 4 connectivity. The OWC Stack STX is also powered and has the same storage options that the Qwiizlab hub provides. I would love to see a comparison between the OWC product and the hubs you just reviewed. Thanks
Good video but could def use more info like speeds etc, are these compatible with 2018 Mac mini considering they have the same ports and design? Thanks
The Satechi M2 Hub destroys WiFi performance. Mine went from 250mbps to 25mbps, in the end had to use a network cable and powerline adapters which wasn't the original plan.
so hands down youve now had time with both, which one would you recommend after all this time? as I am about to buy one, but cannot decide which one. I've read a few people have problems with Quizlabs, but the Satechi, has not got Nvme.. so decisions, decisions! need guidance thank you
I currently use the Qwiizlab with a Samsung 2TB NVMe. I am a digital hoarder and tend to keep files. I like that I can move files from my Mac mini download folder onto the Samsung NVMe. I haven't had any problems with the Qwiizlab since I made the video. thanks for watching A Pate and the comment!!!
And the winner is: Trebleet. It also has NVMe and Sata storage spaces + it is Thunderbolt 3 and it even has a CF Express slot very much appreciated by photographers. And it is a LOT faster than these 2 hubs. Sure, it’s more expensive but it’s worth it!
Agree, though quite a bit more money at least it gives faster 10GB/sec USB 3, 40GB/sec Thunderbolt, and UHS-II SD card ports. The only one if you spent the money on an M2 Pro Mini.
@@xsleep1 Small b, I believe. TB3 is 40Gb/sec, gigabits, not gigabytes. You are absolutely right, it is really more expensive so it will depend on your use case
cool video, thanks for the comparison! btw your intro / outro music is about twice as loud as the spoken dialogue.... some level matching and you'll be golden 🙂
Bought Satechi hub w/out internal storage for less $$, to use w/ my M2 Mac Mini, as I already had been using a 4TB WD USB 3.1 HDD w/ my previous 2018 MacBook Mini & and Anker USB-C hub for easily accessible ports. Capacity is more important for me, than speed.
Would you be able to try running Blackmagic benchmark tool for the drive on those installed in your Qwiizlab hub? That'd provide even more details about how much drive functions within the hub. Thanks!
Nice review. Quick and to the point. I wish there were more comparisons like this one of all the Mac mini hubs out there. Would you comment on the build quality of each? Are they both made of aluminum? I like the additional option of the 2.5 SSD on the Qwiizlab, but prefer the design and fit of the Satechi. Did you have any issues with the drives ejecting on their own? I've heard of this error is some of these hubs. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. both companies say they are made of some type of aluminum. the satechi feels better made to me. I didn’t have any problems with the drives. honestly tho the internal storage doesn’t work for me since i need the portability and do all my work from detachable and portable drives. Thanks for watching and commenting. Very much appreciated!!!
The drives ejecting by itself is very likely due to heat. Qwiizlab uses NVME which generates too much heat and to pair it right beside a 2.5 SSD is disastrous for heat management without a heat sink/fan. Satechi uses the older M.2 SATA which MAY produce lesser heat hence no self ejecting issues. Personally will not cook my Mac Mini by stacking it on top of a Qwiizlab running both NVME and 2.5 SSD. But that's solely my opinion.
@@pangjeremy So what would you recommend? I'm so lost; too much information out there. I just need extra space and don't care so much about portability :S
@@leholie93 I personally went with Satechi and additionally a Acasis enclosure. If you need solely just extra storage, get an Acasis Thunderbolt 3 or 4 enclosure and pair it with a Samsung/WD NVME SSD - It's cheaper per TB and much faster than T5 and T7.
i originally purchased the Qwiizlab because of its design. and how seamlessly it fit with the macmini. But after using them both, I love having the extra storage with the Qwiizlab…Especially with how fast the NVMe drive performs. Thanks for watching…
I found that Qwiizlab hub has a high pitch noise when it is plugged in to my mac mini. Perhaps it is just the one I purchased, but the noise is quite annoying even though it is faint (but definitely noticeable).
I wanted a minimalistic setup on my desk. So I got the Satechi hub that has an NVME enclosure for my M2 Mac Mini. It’s great, but the disadvantages are: - the USB ports do not officially support charging - you lose one of your (two) rear thunderbolt ports - It’s not exactly colour matched to the Mac Mini (you will notice the difference). I’m not sure the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. I might have preferred a different, powered dock and hidden the Mac Mini under the desk…
In this test you used the USB C 5Gbps/SATA version of the Satechi hub, but now the 10Gbps version with NVME connection is also available. Could you try this too? I think it would be very interesting for everyone
Which Samsung SSD did you use for the 2.5-in. drive? I just bought this and used a 860 EVO NAND SSD, and my mac mini wouldn't detect it. Also, what's the largest amount of storage you can utilize for the M.2 SSD enclosure?
Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB NVMe M.2 INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD up to 4TB, 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and 2.5-inch SATA HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio.
I have both of these hubs (connected to a mac mini M1 base system) and the Qwiizlab is better for my use case. It should be noted that I run both a 2.5 ssd and an Intel 670 M.2 drive with only one of the ports (on the back) connected. I get 700 read and write from the M.2 and 400 on the 2.5 drive. The only thing I don't like about the Qwizlab is how slippery it is, you have to hold it down to plug in any device. It should be noted that on the front of the Qwizlab you have 3 type A ports and the last one (closest to the type c port is 10GB). The front type C port is also 10GB. The other 2 type A ports on the front are 5GB ports. I don't know if they are powered or not. I suspect that if they do you would need to use the second usb type c port on the back connected to a power adapter. Just a guess on that. I have had both plugged in at the same time with no issues.
@@lancevillaluz8143 I have two connected but only one has external storage. I have both the qwizzlab and the satechi (non-external dive version) connected. the USB ports on both work. As I mentioned in my first reply, if the devices take power then all bets are off :)
When I used the satechi it did not require an external power source. I simply plugged it into my macmini via a USBC. I connected-my Qwiizlab to my MacMini via a USBC and a USBA. In both instances my Mac mini was able to recognize everything I connected to each of the hubs.
@@Carbon_Fiber Well I have two answers to that question: 1. Now I have the base level M1 mac mini. So, I really love the Qwizlab for having the two internal drives. The base M1 only has 256GB of storage so the Qwizlab really helps. 2. I have on order a new M2 pro that has ample diskspace and 2 extra USB 4 ports for adding additional storage. So, I would use the satechi because of the way the mac can "sit" on the hub without sliding. This works much better to keep the mini from sliding around. They both add needed front IO so I will be using the satechi with the new mac mini.
I confirmed with Quizlabs that you can use an external 20 watt or larger USB-A power supply to power the Quizlab hub, freeing up a USB-A port What I want is a hub with a CFexpress port.
I havent had a mac since the emacs... but I want to get started in garageband and work my way up to logic. (I can afford about $800 usd.) Heres my options: 1....Base model Mac mini 8gb and add a Qwiizlab hub/ssd/nvme 2....Base model Mac mini 8gb and buy extra internal factory storage when ordering from Apple.
I mostly use my MacMini for video editing and this was my process when selecting the one. I get the higher GPU if offered(10 core). Then I upgrade the RAM (usually to 16 GB). Then I consider the storage last (I mostly work from external SSDs). I purchased mine brand new but if I were to do it again, I would check with Apple Refurbished. I just looked and you can get a M1 Mac Mini with 16GB of Ram and 256 GB of storage for $649. it comes with 8 core CPU and 8 core GPU, or a MacMini M2 with 8 core CPU and 10 core GPU and 16 GB and 512 storage for $849.
I've had nothing but trouble with my four Qwizlab hubs ejecting both drive unexpectantly. The company replaced two for free, then refused further communication. Just be forewarned.
Hello Nicket. Thanks for watching. you can find the speed tests here: Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test! ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
According to Qwiizlab INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD up to 8TB, 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and 2.5-inch SATA HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio. here is their website qwiizlab.net/products/uh25-max
I have 3 of these. One on a PC, one on a 2019 iMac and one on an M2 Mac Mini On each one I have a 2TB NVME and an 8TG Samsung SSD. Works great. You must use an external 5w power though, don't try to power off the computer.
I’ve got the Hagibis unit which seems to be the same unit as the Quiizlab unit. I’m only using one of the drive bays for a 1TB NVMe Samsung 980Pro. It’s blistering fast. I may get some of that thin nonslip rubber that people line their shelves in motor homes to stop the slipping but it really hasn’t been an issue. Oh, I’m also only using one of the USB C input ports to connect and power it.
Thanks for sharing Andrew. I used a silxon pot holder I purchased from the dollar store for the slipping. Here is my video about it Problem SOLVED - Qwiizlab Hub MacMini M2 ua-cam.com/users/shortsN2wXMXstbTY?feature=share
Just got a Mac Mini, and originally thought I might get the Satechi hub - looked like it was built well, and I like that the Mac Mini rested in it. But I already had an NVMe drive that wouldn't fit into the Satechi one that I found, and I liked the fact that you could add an SSD drive in the Qwiizlab one, so I ended up getting that one.
Hi, great video! I have noticed that you forget to explain the difference of speed in the USB-A and USB-C ports the satechi delivers 5Gbps and the Qwiizlabs delivers up to 10Gbps.
Hello Morg, Welcome to the Channel !!!! check out this video where I compare the speeds of the Qwiizlab to the Satechi. Hope it helps: ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
Both are good hubs..I guess it will depend on whats important to you. I got another video coming out this week. I'll be using the Blackmagic disk speed test on the Satechi and Qwiizlab hubs...
My Quizlab quit after one month and there was NO CUSTOMER SUPPORT, NONE! Could not get any help so Amazon from whom I purchased it refunded my money. Quizlab has a hell of a big marketing campaign going on with all these UA-cam videos, but it SUCKS. Buy a different brand.
the quizlab also supports external power source as well something the other one does not and dont use the sepera cable for power from the cable this will cause and over draw from the computer make sure to use and external power source i used a 3 amp but a 5 amp would have been better in other to supply to the ports and drives in the quiizlab , recentally my quiizlab died tho i had a webcam pluged into it and the webcam died and took the hub with it , i wont be buying another hub tho as i found a cheaper and better soloution that is working ouit far far better then any of these hubs can offer
That will be up to you and your individual needs…Lots of similarities and significant differences. I like to hear everyone’s thoughts on it. Thanks for watching and your comment is very much appreciated!!! Also , I will keep and use both. I have two mac minis
Thanks JIbester1, I corrected the problem. My apologies to anyone inconvenienced by the incorrect link!!!! And thank you to everyone who have watched and supported my channel!!! I am humbled and greatly appreciate you all!!!
Thanks for watching. There are a couple of different versions. Here is ehat they support according to Qwiizlab’s website UH25 SE (Silver) INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and SATA III HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio. UH25 Max (Silver) INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD up to 4TB, 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and 2.5-inch SATA HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio.
When I connect it to my m1 macmini I usually connect one monitor to my M1s hdmi and the other to one of my thunderbolt ports. this leaves my M1 mini USB-A ports free and frees all the ports on the hub for any peripherals. In that sense it helps me…Hope this info helps…Thanks for watching!!!
Don’t blame you. whenever I think “yep thats enough.” I end up having to unplug something to plug something else in. If you have the 💰 cash check out the Caldigit TS4. Everything anyone could need.
I dont think it was a good comparison. You talk mainly about the Qwiizlab hub, and do you give ANY specs for transfer speeds on Satachi. i.e 10GB from external to internal drive transfer speed. THAT is pretty critical for this compare, no?
Thise are great points Chris. Sorry you were disappointed in the video. check out this video I did comparing the speed of the two Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test! ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
Hello thai, thanks for watching. I try to keep my videos short because the casual viewer will often lose interest if the video is too long. However , I am open to making longer videos. What are some of the other things you wanted to hear about? You are appreciated
Does anyone have the problem with the satechi hub that it keeps posting the message the drive is not removed correctly while nothing is physically changed or disconnected??
Hello Richard Here is Satechi’s reply Thank you for reaching back out to us and for informing us on the product. We're not aware of this issue with the Stand & Hub, but did they have any devices connected to it when this happened? Also, could you inform us on the make and model of the host device that the hub is connected to? If it's just the hub by itself that's disconnecting, then could they review the hub's cable, the cable's connector, or the USB-C port that it's connecting to? If the cable is damaged, the connector or the port is dirty, then it could cause an issue with the connection between the hub and the host device.
Bought a Qwiizlab hub after seeing this review video, anyone else have it and have an issue with it unmounting the installed drives? I'm worried about disk (and file) corruption if this keeps happening, and Qwiiz haven't been very helpful tbh. They did advise me to buy a power adaptor for the hub which I got, but still it's happening. Qwiiz ended up refunding me for the hub and not requesting it back, which would be a result if I wasn't living in fear of disk corruption due to the almost daily issue. The comments here made me think about putting it on top of the Mac Mini rather than underneath it, in case it's an overheating issue, but any other ideas from anyone in a similar position?
Hello Scott, sorry to hear about your issue with the Qwiizlab. I have had my Qwiizlab for several months. I used my underneath my MacMini with a silicone pot holder in between to keep it from sliding and I have not had the same issue you are describing. I will keep an eye on it and report in the community tab if that ever becomes a problem though. Thank you for sharing your experience!
My Quizlab stopped working in about a month. The company had NO support, NO way to reach it. It is a piece of garbage. You should spend a very little more and get a Satechi. I am assuming the Satechi is a betyter quality and has support, but I don't know because I just gave up on this type of hub/
I look forward to someone developing a T4 hub with a Satechi form factor Emrron. I’d definitely be all in. If you know of one please let me know. Thanks for commenting!!!
Sorry about the volume Ricardo. what are some if the other questions you have regarding them? Here is a link to a video I made regarding their speeds. Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test! ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
I thought it was a comparison of the two hubs? Port speed would be a good indicator. The fact that one is powered if this makes any difference??? Poor content.
Sorry you were disappointed Stuart. I’m working on improving my vidros. Hopefully you’ll stick around for my next video. I’ll be using the Blackmagic speed test on the SSDs installed in the Qwiizlab and a Satechi I recently purchased
If you you want more information about these two hubs then check out this video. I fulfilled a viewer’s request and conducted a speed test:
Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test!
ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
Thank you. It would be more helpful though if you actually named a winner of the two. There are differences between the 2 beyond storage space, eg transfer speeds & powered vs non powered. Quizlab seems better on the specs but it’s a less well known brand, so I’m uncertain if it’s equally good.
Hello, I just got a Mac Mini 2023 M2 16RAM, and I read that these hubs have issues with the system wifi. It drops the downloading connection 50% even 80% in some cases. Any info regarding that matter? Thank you.
Great video man! Thanks!
I think the Qwiizlab is supposed to seat on your Mac mini. Its rubber feet would keep your Mac aluminum body safe from scratches.
But if you put the Mac mini seating on the Qwiizlab it would slide and scratch the hub.
Just saying.
Thanks for the positivity Marcos. Means a lot. There is no way my mind would have allowed me to even consider putting the Qwiizlab on top..LOL…But you are probably right.
there’s a Satechi model that has an NVME slot as well. not an SSD though. still i like the indentation for the bottom of the Mac Mini. i’m a sucker for aesthetics. also, the Satechi’s finish matches the Mac Mini’s finish perfect. the Quiizlab’s finish is a little different. again, aesthetics.
I like the aesthetics of the Satrchi as well Kenny. Although having a built in ssd was pretty great!! Thanks for commenting.
Which hub from satechi supports NVME SSD? Thx
I have an M2 Mac Mini and after trying both of the hubs in this review, I found the OWC Stack STX hub with Thunderbolt 4 connectivity. The OWC Stack STX is also powered and has the same storage options that the Qwiizlab hub provides. I would love to see a comparison between the OWC product and the hubs you just reviewed. Thanks
Good video but could def use more info like speeds etc, are these compatible with 2018 Mac mini considering they have the same ports and design? Thanks
Thnx for watching. You should check out my other video. ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
The Satechi M2 Hub destroys WiFi performance. Mine went from 250mbps to 25mbps, in the end had to use a network cable and powerline adapters which wasn't the original plan.
i have ordered the Satechi i like the way the mac docks on top plus the one i have ordered has a slot for nvme
Not a word about transfer speeds, port speeds, 1st hand experience while using data… Sorry, but nothing new in this review.
Sorry your disappointed Igor. Thanks for watching and commenting!!!
so hands down youve now had time with both, which one would you recommend after all this time? as I am about to buy one, but cannot decide which one. I've read a few people have problems with Quizlabs, but the Satechi, has not got Nvme.. so decisions, decisions! need guidance thank you
I currently use the Qwiizlab with a Samsung 2TB NVMe. I am a digital hoarder and tend to keep files. I like that I can move files from my Mac mini download folder onto the Samsung NVMe. I haven't had any problems with the Qwiizlab since I made the video. thanks for watching A Pate and the comment!!!
@@digitalmaus thanks I"ve gone with the Qwiizlabs as it's dual drive and powered..
And the winner is: Trebleet. It also has NVMe and Sata storage spaces + it is Thunderbolt 3 and it even has a CF Express slot very much appreciated by photographers. And it is a LOT faster than these 2 hubs. Sure, it’s more expensive but it’s worth it!
I’ll check it out. Thanks Phillipe!
Agree, though quite a bit more money at least it gives faster 10GB/sec USB 3, 40GB/sec Thunderbolt, and UHS-II SD card ports. The only one if you spent the money on an M2 Pro Mini.
@@xsleep1 Small b, I believe. TB3 is 40Gb/sec, gigabits, not gigabytes. You are absolutely right, it is really more expensive so it will depend on your use case
@@philippelambinet1425 You are right, of course. Gb/sec
Your comment sent me to trebleet. Looks like they have great customer service. It is very expensive, but it also might be much more future proof.
I placed the Satechi hub on top of my Mac Mini to eliminate that gap when placed underneath. My M1 Mac Mini with the Satechi hub works great.
cool video, thanks for the comparison! btw your intro / outro music is about twice as loud as the spoken dialogue.... some level matching and you'll be golden 🙂
Noted! thanks so much!!!
Bought Satechi hub w/out internal storage for less $$, to use w/ my M2 Mac Mini, as I already had been using a 4TB WD USB 3.1 HDD w/ my previous 2018 MacBook Mini & and Anker USB-C hub for easily accessible ports. Capacity is more important for me, than speed.
Nice!!!
Can you tell us more about the Samsung monitor which I see in the video?
An inexpensive 32” 1080p monitor I purchased from a big box retailer. Not something I would recommend unless you are on a budget.
Thank you for this informative comparison! Sub'd!
Thanks for the sub!
Would you be able to try running Blackmagic benchmark tool for the drive on those installed in your Qwiizlab hub? That'd provide even more details about how much drive functions within the hub. Thanks!
Yes, absolutely. THANKS FOR WATCHING!!!
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Nice review. Quick and to the point. I wish there were more comparisons like this one of all the Mac mini hubs out there. Would you comment on the build quality of each? Are they both made of aluminum? I like the additional option of the 2.5 SSD on the Qwiizlab, but prefer the design and fit of the Satechi. Did you have any issues with the drives ejecting on their own? I've heard of this error is some of these hubs. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. both companies say they are made of some type of aluminum. the satechi feels better made to me. I didn’t have any problems with the drives. honestly tho the internal storage doesn’t work for me since i need the portability and do all my work from detachable and portable drives. Thanks for watching and commenting. Very much appreciated!!!
The drives ejecting by itself is very likely due to heat. Qwiizlab uses NVME which generates too much heat and to pair it right beside a 2.5 SSD is disastrous for heat management without a heat sink/fan. Satechi uses the older M.2 SATA which MAY produce lesser heat hence no self ejecting issues.
Personally will not cook my Mac Mini by stacking it on top of a Qwiizlab running both NVME and 2.5 SSD. But that's solely my opinion.
@@pangjeremy So what would you recommend? I'm so lost; too much information out there. I just need extra space and don't care so much about portability :S
@@leholie93 I personally went with Satechi and additionally a Acasis enclosure. If you need solely just extra storage, get an Acasis Thunderbolt 3 or 4 enclosure and pair it with a Samsung/WD NVME SSD - It's cheaper per TB and much faster than T5 and T7.
i originally purchased the Qwiizlab because of its design. and how seamlessly it fit with the macmini. But after using them both, I love having the extra storage with the Qwiizlab…Especially with how fast the NVMe drive performs. Thanks for watching…
I found that Qwiizlab hub has a high pitch noise when it is plugged in to my mac mini. Perhaps it is just the one I purchased, but the noise is quite annoying even though it is faint (but definitely noticeable).
I haven't experienced that Chia. but thanks for commenting.
@@digitalmaus It could be just that my ears are sensitive, as I don't see similar comments in Amazon's review.
I wanted a minimalistic setup on my desk. So I got the Satechi hub that has an NVME enclosure for my M2 Mac Mini. It’s great, but the disadvantages are:
- the USB ports do not officially support charging
- you lose one of your (two) rear thunderbolt ports
- It’s not exactly colour matched to the Mac Mini (you will notice the difference).
I’m not sure the disadvantages outweigh the advantages. I might have preferred a different, powered dock and hidden the Mac Mini under the desk…
Thanks for providing a different perspective Andy. Much appreciated!!!
I thought the satechi hub supports only supports the SATA cards not NVME ?
Satechi makes different hubs. They have one that does not have a ssd enclosure and one that Fits M.2 SATA SSD. thanks for commenting
In this test you used the USB C 5Gbps/SATA version of the Satechi hub, but now the 10Gbps version with NVME connection is also available. Could you try this too? I think it would be very interesting for everyone
Which Samsung SSD did you use for the 2.5-in. drive? I just bought this and used a 860 EVO NAND SSD, and my mac mini wouldn't detect it. Also, what's the largest amount of storage you can utilize for the M.2 SSD enclosure?
Samsung 970 EVO Plus SSD 2TB NVMe M.2
INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD up to 4TB, 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and 2.5-inch SATA HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio.
I have both of these hubs (connected to a mac mini M1 base system) and the Qwiizlab is better for my use case. It should be noted that I run both a 2.5 ssd and an Intel 670 M.2 drive with only one of the ports (on the back) connected. I get 700 read and write from the M.2 and 400 on the 2.5 drive. The only thing I don't like about the Qwizlab is how slippery it is, you have to hold it down to plug in any device. It should be noted that on the front of the Qwizlab you have 3 type A ports and the last one (closest to the type c port is 10GB). The front type C port is also 10GB. The other 2 type A ports on the front are 5GB ports. I don't know if they are powered or not. I suspect that if they do you would need to use the second usb type c port on the back connected to a power adapter. Just a guess on that. I have had both plugged in at the same time with no issues.
Thanks for providing your perspective Thomas. and thanks for watching. much appreciated!!!
Can you connect 2 hubs with the Mac mini?
@@lancevillaluz8143 I have two connected but only one has external storage. I have both the qwizzlab and the satechi (non-external dive version) connected. the USB ports on both work. As I mentioned in my first reply, if the devices take power then all bets are off :)
When I used the satechi it did not require an external power source. I simply plugged it into my macmini via a USBC. I connected-my Qwiizlab to my MacMini via a USBC and a USBA. In both instances my Mac mini was able to recognize everything I connected to each of the hubs.
@@Carbon_Fiber Well I have two answers to that question:
1. Now I have the base level M1 mac mini. So, I really love the Qwizlab for having the two internal drives. The base M1 only has 256GB of storage so the Qwizlab really helps.
2. I have on order a new M2 pro that has ample diskspace and 2 extra USB 4 ports for adding additional storage. So, I would use the satechi because of the way the mac can "sit" on the hub without sliding. This works much better to keep the mini from sliding around. They both add needed front IO so I will be using the satechi with the new mac mini.
I confirmed with Quizlabs that you can use an external 20 watt or larger USB-A power supply to power the Quizlab hub, freeing up a USB-A port
What I want is a hub with a CFexpress port.
I havent had a mac since the emacs... but I want to get started in garageband and work my way up to logic.
(I can afford about $800 usd.)
Heres my options:
1....Base model Mac mini 8gb and add a Qwiizlab hub/ssd/nvme
2....Base model Mac mini 8gb and buy extra internal factory storage when ordering from Apple.
I mostly use my MacMini for video editing and this was my process when selecting the one. I get the higher GPU if offered(10 core). Then I upgrade the RAM (usually to 16 GB). Then I consider the storage last (I mostly work from external SSDs). I purchased mine brand new but if I were to do it again, I would check with Apple Refurbished. I just looked and you can get a M1 Mac Mini with 16GB of Ram and 256 GB of storage for $649. it comes with 8 core CPU and 8 core GPU, or a MacMini M2 with 8 core CPU and 10 core GPU and 16 GB and 512 storage for $849.
@@digitalmaus thanks!
Thank you the video. You have made up my mind and not buy either dock.
thank you for watching and commenting
have you tested the Qwizlab for the 'Disk Not Ejected Properly' issue that is affecting Thunderbolt 1/2/3 enclosures?
I have not had that issue with the one I purchased Double Dark. But I will put a community post out if I do. Thanks for watching!!!
I've had nothing but trouble with my four Qwizlab hubs ejecting both drive unexpectantly. The company replaced two for free, then refused further communication. Just be forewarned.
There is no speed test comparison of the SSds/NVME installed on the Doc. And SSD attached to the Doc?
Hello Nicket. Thanks for watching. you can find the speed tests here: Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test!
ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
I am bothered buy the 3 USB PORTS, and only one USB-C port. Everything I have is USB-C now. There has to be better options in the next 12 months.
On the Quiizlab, what is the maximum amount of storage you can put for each of the drives in the slots?
According to Qwiizlab INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD up to 8TB, 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and 2.5-inch SATA HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio.
here is their website qwiizlab.net/products/uh25-max
@@digitalmaus Thanks!
I have 3 of these. One on a PC, one on a 2019 iMac and one on an M2 Mac Mini
On each one I have a 2TB NVME and an 8TG Samsung SSD. Works great.
You must use an external 5w power though, don't try to power off the computer.
I’ve got the Hagibis unit which seems to be the same unit as the Quiizlab unit. I’m only using one of the drive bays for a 1TB NVMe Samsung 980Pro. It’s blistering fast. I may get some of that thin nonslip rubber that people line their shelves in motor homes to stop the slipping but it really hasn’t been an issue. Oh, I’m also only using one of the USB C input ports to connect and power it.
Thanks for sharing Andrew. I used a silxon pot holder I purchased from the dollar store for the slipping. Here is my video about it Problem SOLVED - Qwiizlab Hub MacMini M2
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i also have Qwiizlab & Hagibis an work great
Just got a Mac Mini, and originally thought I might get the Satechi hub - looked like it was built well, and I like that the Mac Mini rested in it. But I already had an NVMe drive that wouldn't fit into the Satechi one that I found, and I liked the fact that you could add an SSD drive in the Qwiizlab one, so I ended up getting that one.
thanks for sharing Keith. Much appreciated.
Hi, great video!
I have noticed that you forget to explain the difference of speed in the USB-A and USB-C ports the satechi delivers 5Gbps and the Qwiizlabs delivers up to 10Gbps.
Hello Morg, Welcome to the Channel !!!! check out this video where I compare the speeds of the Qwiizlab to the Satechi. Hope it helps: ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
Been thinking about getting a hub but for a Mac Studio. Kinda split on which one to get though.
Both are good hubs..I guess it will depend on whats important to you. I got another video coming out this week. I'll be using the Blackmagic disk speed test on the Satechi and Qwiizlab hubs...
My Quizlab quit after one month and there was NO CUSTOMER SUPPORT, NONE! Could not get any help so Amazon from whom I purchased it refunded my money. Quizlab has a hell of a big marketing campaign going on with all these UA-cam videos, but it SUCKS. Buy a different brand.
@@charlesdavis8813 Alright Satechi it is then 🤣👌👍.
Quality video, definitely deserves more views. Thanks !
Thanks Saxy. I’m working on getting better every video. Much appreciated!!!
the quizlab also supports external power source as well something the other one does not and dont use the sepera cable for power from the cable this will cause and over draw from the computer make sure to use and external power source i used a 3 amp but a 5 amp would have been better in other to supply to the ports and drives in the quiizlab , recentally my quiizlab died tho i had a webcam pluged into it and the webcam died and took the hub with it , i wont be buying another hub tho as i found a cheaper and better soloution that is working ouit far far better then any of these hubs can offer
Thanks Kevys. I appreciate your perspective!!
Would u Share your solution?
The Amazon link in your video comments seem to be for a different dock by the same manufacturer.
I checked again Bik. They seem the same. But feel free to post another link in the comments if you like. Thanks for commenting and watching
Is the speedtransfer the same or!? 🤔
So who was the winner?
That will be up to you and your individual needs…Lots of similarities and significant differences. I like to hear everyone’s thoughts on it. Thanks for watching and your comment is very much appreciated!!! Also , I will keep and use both. I have two mac minis
Has anyone else experienced a significant loss in wifi speed with the quiizlab connected? If so what did you do to remedy the situation.
Satechi also have a slot for nvme SSD
Your link to purchase the Qwiizlab hub is in error. It takes you to a hub with a VGA port on the back.
Thanks JIbester1, I corrected the problem. My apologies to anyone inconvenienced by the incorrect link!!!! And thank you to everyone who have watched and supported my channel!!! I am humbled and greatly appreciate you all!!!
Nice review vid. In the future please balance the music "blast" to about the same level as your voice.
Thanks for the tip Alan!!!
can anybody confirm that a 8tb sata ssd will work with the qwiizlab hub?
One question, all of the ports share one single USB-C port correct?
Hello Moe, the Satechi hub connects to your Mac mini vis one USBC. The Qwiizlab requires a usbc and usb a port on your macmini
If I understand it right, the Qwiizlab Hub accepts bigger drives than the Satechi. Sorry, but 500GB is nothing. I hope to add some TB!
Thanks for watching. There are a couple of different versions. Here is ehat they support according to Qwiizlab’s website
UH25 SE (Silver)
INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and SATA III HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio.
UH25 Max (Silver)
INTERNAL STORAGE EXPANSION - supports M.2 PCIe Gen3 NVMe SSD up to 4TB, 2.5-inch SATA SSD up to 8TB and 2.5-inch SATA HDD up to 2TB to expand storage for Mac mini and Mac studio.
Does any of the hub help run two monitors with Mac mini?
When I connect it to my m1 macmini I usually connect one monitor to my M1s hdmi and the other to one of my thunderbolt ports. this leaves my M1 mini USB-A ports free and frees all the ports on the hub for any peripherals. In that sense it helps me…Hope this info helps…Thanks for watching!!!
i have Qwiizlab & Hagibis an both are great on my m1 mini
Thanks for sharing your experience Erroruser!!!
has anyone used these with the mac studio. Is it worth it since the studio already has more ports?
Unfortunately not. How many additional ports do you need?
@@digitalmaus not sure, I just ordered it but I always want more ports lol
Don’t blame you. whenever I think “yep thats enough.” I end up having to unplug something to plug something else in. If you have the 💰 cash check out the Caldigit TS4. Everything anyone could need.
Holy Audio levels batman
I thought you will compare the speed of the ssd :(
I dont think it was a good comparison. You talk mainly about the Qwiizlab hub, and do you give ANY specs for transfer speeds on Satachi. i.e 10GB from external to internal drive transfer speed. THAT is pretty critical for this compare, no?
Thise are great points Chris. Sorry you were disappointed in the video. check out this video I did comparing the speed of the two Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test!
ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
Good but video was too short. He left way too much meat on the table as far as testing, the card ports, and a million other things.
Hello thai, thanks for watching. I try to keep my videos short because the casual viewer will often lose interest if the video is too long. However , I am open to making longer videos. What are some of the other things you wanted to hear about? You are appreciated
Does anyone have the problem with the satechi hub that it keeps posting the message the drive is not removed correctly while nothing is physically changed or disconnected??
Hello Richard Stone, I sent an email to Satechi Customer service and asked for a response to this problem. I will let you know if / when they reply
Hello Richard
Here is Satechi’s reply
Thank you for reaching back out to us and for informing us on the product.
We're not aware of this issue with the Stand & Hub, but did they have any devices connected to it when this happened?
Also, could you inform us on the make and model of the host device that the hub is connected to?
If it's just the hub by itself that's disconnecting, then could they review the hub's cable, the cable's connector, or the USB-C port that it's connecting to?
If the cable is damaged, the connector or the port is dirty, then it could cause an issue with the connection between the hub and the host device.
Bought a Qwiizlab hub after seeing this review video, anyone else have it and have an issue with it unmounting the installed drives?
I'm worried about disk (and file) corruption if this keeps happening, and Qwiiz haven't been very helpful tbh. They did advise me to buy a power adaptor for the hub which I got, but still it's happening. Qwiiz ended up refunding me for the hub and not requesting it back, which would be a result if I wasn't living in fear of disk corruption due to the almost daily issue.
The comments here made me think about putting it on top of the Mac Mini rather than underneath it, in case it's an overheating issue, but any other ideas from anyone in a similar position?
Hello Scott, sorry to hear about your issue with the Qwiizlab. I have had my Qwiizlab for several months. I used my underneath my MacMini with a silicone pot holder in between to keep it from sliding and I have not had the same issue you are describing. I will keep an eye on it and report in the community tab if that ever becomes a problem though. Thank you for sharing your experience!
huh so which ones wins? wth....
Completely up to you and your needs DMB
My Quizlab stopped working in about a month. The company had NO support, NO way to reach it. It is a piece of garbage. You should spend a very little more and get a Satechi. I am assuming the Satechi is a betyter quality and has support, but I don't know because I just gave up on this type of hub/
Thanks for sharing Charles. Sorry about the problems you had. What are you using now? Thanks for watching and sharing!!!
awesome
thanks for the kind word Hasan!!!
Realistically we need Thunderbolt 4 hubs to take advantage of new technology.
I look forward to someone developing a T4 hub with a Satechi form factor Emrron. I’d definitely be all in. If you know of one please let me know. Thanks for commenting!!!
@@digitalmaus Well lets make one, we can buy the internals from another company and tool and die an aluminum design, but also include other ports.
your volume is really low, I barely can hear you. I wish you went and did a deeper dive on both units.
Sorry about the volume Ricardo. what are some if the other questions you have regarding them? Here is a link to a video I made regarding their speeds. Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test!
ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
I wish your voice volume was as loud as the music...
Thanks for the tip FunFilm…I’ll work on it
@@digitalmaus It happens...😃
None of these comes with extra HDMI ports.
Gbs per second is the only metric I care about, and you don't give it.
Sorry I disappointed you Dr Mikey. i'm working on getting better at these videos..Thanks for watching tho
I see they took down Qwiizlab can't find ANYWHERE
THANKS for letting me know Jim. I put a new link in the description. amzn.to/3qwAAAr
You didn't even compared the speed of both 😭
check out this video Which One is FASTER? Qwiizlab vs Satechi Hub MacMini Speed Test!
ua-cam.com/video/ns4HOjsqeOw/v-deo.html
where was the review? you barely covered them
Sorry your disappointed Steve. I’m working on my video skills….
I thought it was a comparison of the two hubs? Port speed would be a good indicator. The fact that one is powered if this makes any difference??? Poor content.
Sorry you were disappointed Stuart. I’m working on improving my vidros. Hopefully you’ll stick around for my next video. I’ll be using the Blackmagic speed test on the SSDs installed in the Qwiizlab and a Satechi I recently purchased
Hagibis
my ssd kept being lost when using the qwiiz.
Thanks for sharing Perry. Sorry to hear about your trouble.