Why is it Impossible* For Telescopes On Earth To See Spacecraft on The Moon?

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2020
  • Amateur astronomers regularly track and photograph spacecraft in deep space using telescopes. Tiny spacecraft can be seen millions of miles from Earth using carefully planned observations. However to view spacecraft on the surface of the moon, this isn't possible because it's easy to pick out a bright spot against the dark background of space but doing the same against the bright background of the moon isn't useful. To get images of spacecraft on the moon (or mars!) you need to get much closer so that the details can resolve.
    Here's a list of special site on the moon which have been observed by LRO:
    www.lroc.asu.edu/featured_sites/
    * and by 'impossible' I mean that it's merely ridiculously difficult unless you build a massive device and someone correct for the atmospheric turbulence.
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  • @thesteef77
    @thesteef77 3 роки тому +591

    Well, space archeology is officially a thing now...

    • @Kirealta
      @Kirealta 3 роки тому +26

      Sparcheology.

    • @RFC-3514
      @RFC-3514 3 роки тому +4

      Thants.

    • @nicholasmaude6906
      @nicholasmaude6906 3 роки тому +14

      Exoarchaeology.

    • @starty8814
      @starty8814 3 роки тому +18

      So you can be a Jedi and Indiana Jones at the same time

    • @grnmjolnir
      @grnmjolnir 3 роки тому +4

      @@starty8814 So... Spock without the force?

  • @petehiggins33
    @petehiggins33 3 роки тому +494

    “Space is dark. You just won't believe how deeply, blackly, mind-bogglingly dark it is. I mean, you may think it's dark in the depths of your soul, but that's just sparklers to space.”

    • @Emdee5632
      @Emdee5632 3 роки тому +37

      Nice reference to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

    • @earthlingjohn
      @earthlingjohn 3 роки тому +4

      underrated

    • @rmvdhaak
      @rmvdhaak 3 роки тому +47

      Great comment. I give it a score of 42.

    • @equation1321
      @equation1321 3 роки тому

      @@rmvdhaak 0

    • @sleeptyper
      @sleeptyper 3 роки тому +6

      @@equation1321 Do you know the Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, The Universe, and Everything?

  • @ThatGuy-sd3zl
    @ThatGuy-sd3zl 3 роки тому +5

    1969: Phone line on the moon.
    2019: Sorry sir, your data rates are that high because you live in a rural village.

  • @krzysztofkwietniewski9100
    @krzysztofkwietniewski9100 3 роки тому +220

    08:24 I repeat, there is no Top Secret Alien Spacecraft Monitoring project in Hawaii.

    • @Kirealta
      @Kirealta 3 роки тому +3

      hmmmmmm

    • @andrespeccia8881
      @andrespeccia8881 3 роки тому +6

      you say that cause it's Top Secret, obviously you wouldn't know about it

    • @wernerviehhauser94
      @wernerviehhauser94 3 роки тому +6

      Of course not. Its located in Bonn, Germany. They needed to put the old government buildings to some use when they moved to Berlin

    • @Kineth1
      @Kineth1 3 роки тому +12

      There is no Very Large Space Monitoring Radar in Puerto Rico.

    • @johnlacey3857
      @johnlacey3857 3 роки тому +6

      @@Kineth1 sad but alas now true

  • @robspecht9550
    @robspecht9550 3 роки тому +244

    I swear, every time Scott does the Intro his voice gets slightly Deeper. In a few years we’ll need infrasound microphones in order to detect his voice.

    • @bluemountain4181
      @bluemountain4181 3 роки тому +55

      He's getting Manlier and Manlier with each video

    • @catfish552
      @catfish552 3 роки тому +25

      Eventually, videos will just start with a seismograph reading.

    • @BurnleyNuts
      @BurnleyNuts 3 роки тому +17

      I always find myself mimicking 'Hullo it's Scott Manley here', everytime before his video starts. I can't help myself and it's a tad worrying.

    • @bluebaconjake405
      @bluebaconjake405 3 роки тому +9

      @@bluemountain4181 every video, he’s getting scott _manlier_
      I’ll leave

    • @AldorEricsson
      @AldorEricsson 3 роки тому +10

      That's another consequence of the expansion of the Universe.

  • @paulhaynes8045
    @paulhaynes8045 3 роки тому +34

    Interesting as always, Scott. My kids have heard so many of your intros now that they sometimes run round the house shouting "Hello, it's Scott Manley here", in what they imagine is a Scottish accent!

    • @romerobryan83
      @romerobryan83 3 роки тому

      This is awesome 😂😂

    • @lucasrem1870
      @lucasrem1870 2 роки тому

      funny guy, inches, miles.....
      mad non science people!

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому

      @@lucasrem1870 Its hilarious cus the only country that got to the moon, used those units.
      Same country that invented half this internet infrastructure too.

  • @jeffpkamp
    @jeffpkamp 3 роки тому +161

    "Panstarrs is looking for space craft... Oops I mean asteroids". A slip of the tongue gives away Scott's knowledge of the true nature of Panstarrs, a secret earth defense project.

    • @camillovidani2586
      @camillovidani2586 3 роки тому +15

      The Council of funding Nations will be disappointed

    • @MuitoDaora
      @MuitoDaora 3 роки тому +5

      Dang! I knew it!

    • @Stadtpark90
      @Stadtpark90 3 роки тому +6

      I just wanted to comment how the number of likes is 42... - but two people liked it before I could even start typing.

    • @zapfanzapfan
      @zapfanzapfan 3 роки тому +3

      I think the Defense Department's telescope that looks at others satellites is actually sitting next door to Panstarrs :-)

    • @helderafonso2609
      @helderafonso2609 3 роки тому

      Nice plot for a holyood movie.

  • @steveg3706
    @steveg3706 3 роки тому +10

    It is like trying to photograph a speck of dust on the surface of an illuminated incandescent light bulb's glass shell.

  • @jacobosgood3513
    @jacobosgood3513 3 роки тому +23

    I love how you dropped words like arc-seconds and angular resolution, but seemed to intentionally not use the word "albedo"

  • @fewwiggle
    @fewwiggle 3 роки тому +87

    Well, the fact that we found that rocket stage should give us some reassurance that we are seeing a whole lot of the objects that might potentially impact Kerbin

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 3 роки тому +16

      We need the Blunderbirds to come and clean up Low Kerbin Orbit using their SSTO 'garbage trucks'!

    • @RWBHere
      @RWBHere 3 роки тому +1

      @@InventorZahran SpaceX are working on it... 😉

  • @Trigger.444
    @Trigger.444 3 роки тому +30

    (8:42) There's something poetic about how our trash is floating so far out into space from a previous mission, but Sol says "here, have it back".

    • @MatthijsvanDuin
      @MatthijsvanDuin 3 роки тому +3

      "hey, you dropped something, is this yours?"

  • @barrybrevik9178
    @barrybrevik9178 3 роки тому +8

    You mentioned how the light varies on orphaned booster stage (I think that is what I heard.)
    I was very surprised to learn that 1. Satellites tumble during their life in orbit, or at least many of them do, and 2. The military can actually determine (much of the time) what kind of satellite they are looking at based on the "fingerprint" of reflected light as they tumble.
    I learned this when I worked on the GEODSS tracking system, way back in the mid '80s. The system is still used today, and comprises 4 geographically separated locations on the surface of earth. Each site sports qty 2 40 inch diameter f2 folded reflector telescopes, plus one 15 inch wide field scope for quick scans, and performs multiple entire sky surveys (including the stars) each night. We had one entire setup in the back yard, and it was great being able to go into the telescope domes and control room after hours to see what the test operators were doing.
    They were looking for satellites that were not supposed to be there, but I read that it is now also time shared to look for near earth crossing objects. Roughly stated, the system is able to see objects as small as a basketball, as far out as geosynchronous orbit. It amazes me that we (USA) could do this more than 30 years ago.
    I guess that I waxed a bit off topic, but my point is that yeah, a great deal can be learned from an object's light reflection pattern.

  • @BnORailFan
    @BnORailFan 3 роки тому +102

    8:24 Scott let slip that we're secretly tracking the Vulcans passing by Earth.

    • @staborama
      @staborama 3 роки тому +1

      Illuminati slips up, revealing alien secret.

    • @tybofborg
      @tybofborg 3 роки тому +3

      They're on a survey mission, they have no interest in Earth. Too primitive.

    • @tomf3150
      @tomf3150 3 роки тому +1

      42 Years and 5± monthes to go.

    • @BnORailFan
      @BnORailFan 3 роки тому +2

      @@tomf3150 Ah yes, April 5th, 2063. What happens 10 years before that is the bad part.

    • @logicplague2077
      @logicplague2077 3 роки тому +2

      @@BnORailFan This isn't?

  • @timandshannon03
    @timandshannon03 3 роки тому +64

    Scott Manley offers common language breakdowns of Scientific information, drops a Spinal Tap Quote.........This is why I love this channel!!!!

    • @Zeithri
      @Zeithri 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah but I do miss his Kerbal videos ^^

  • @maxrogers8659
    @maxrogers8659 3 роки тому +97

    The best part of every video is "Hello it's Scott Manley here."

    • @alejandrobejarano9918
      @alejandrobejarano9918 3 роки тому +5

      It was actually "flight safe"

    • @aspuzling
      @aspuzling 3 роки тому +19

      I think you mean "Hullo".

    • @rationalmartian
      @rationalmartian 3 роки тому +8

      @@aspuzling Yup. It's definitely "Hullo".
      I must confess, it makes me smile too. A great beginning to the episode, that has become quite familiar.

    • @bjorngb
      @bjorngb 3 роки тому +8

      Yes. Along with «I’m Scott Manley. Fly safe»

    • @nagualdesign
      @nagualdesign 3 роки тому +13

      I always think the best part is the middle bit where he talks about interesting things.

  • @kmc7355
    @kmc7355 3 роки тому +175

    Unfortunately you lost the flat earthers and lunatics at 'think' 😂

    • @bendeleted9155
      @bendeleted9155 3 роки тому +4

      No, I'm still here. I don't get it 🙁
      😉😂🤣

    • @HDTomo
      @HDTomo 3 роки тому +14

      I hope these replies are sarcastic

    • @bradley9856
      @bradley9856 3 роки тому +11

      @@HDTomo I hope so haha

    • @inwen8258
      @inwen8258 3 роки тому +7

      Scott is wearing that shirt for a reason.

    • @deusexaethera
      @deusexaethera 3 роки тому +1

      That's fine.

  • @LexieAssassin
    @LexieAssassin 3 роки тому +4

    Scott: "They wanted to make sure that the place that they thought it was, was the place that it actually was."
    "The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position that it is, is now the that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in, is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer senario works as follows; because the variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not just sure of where it is, but however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa, and by differentiation this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and it's variation, which is called error."

    • @its1110
      @its1110 3 роки тому +1

      Ouch! My head aches.

    • @LexieAssassin
      @LexieAssassin 3 роки тому +1

      Thing is, if you listen to it enough, it starts to make sense. 🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @its1110
      @its1110 3 роки тому

      @@LexieAssassin
      That's what I am afraid of. ... ...

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 роки тому +16

    Scot talks about the sample return capsule landing in Australia, and just a week or so ago I watched the DVD of the 1971 film, *THE ANDROMEDA STRAIN.* 😊

    • @jeffreyyoung4104
      @jeffreyyoung4104 3 роки тому +1

      tThis will be the beta strain...
      They thought covid was something to worry about!

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman 3 роки тому

      @john smith >>> I have never watched the TV movie, but from what I have heard most people say about it I agree.

    • @daos3300
      @daos3300 3 роки тому +2

      that is an all-time classic

    • @rogerstone3068
      @rogerstone3068 3 роки тому +1

      Another book on Scott's bookshelf is a James Corey sf novel, which I'm reading, based on that recommendation - also explores the alien-seed theme, and does it well.

    • @rogerstone3068
      @rogerstone3068 3 роки тому +1

      @@Allan_aka_RocKITEman I can just remember watching (mostly from hiding behind the sofa) 'Quatermass and the Pit,' serialised in blurry black-and-white. It must have been about 1959-1960. I wonder how well that would work these days.

  • @wdwerker
    @wdwerker 3 роки тому +2

    Very helpful explanation of the limitations and abilities for a subject that frustrates many casual space fans. We can rely on Scott to bring it into concepts we can grasp and then take it back up to astonish and exceed our grasp yet again.

  • @jamesoneill3922
    @jamesoneill3922 3 роки тому +1

    The thing I love about this channel is the math. Math isn’t complex when explained this well. It’s the easiest and most precise way to describe anything. (I’m European and I had to make myself say Math rather than Maths)

  • @Vanqofficial
    @Vanqofficial 3 роки тому +16

    The optical interferometer CHARA has units spaced 330 meters apart, which gives it a resolution of half a meter (if you were to ignore the atmosphere).

    • @Kineth1
      @Kineth1 3 роки тому +18

      I tried to ignore the atmosphere, but I passed out.

  • @geoffreyrobson4745
    @geoffreyrobson4745 3 роки тому +7

    this is the first time I've seen pictures of the Hyabusa capsule retrieval. Reminds me of the Andromeda Strain! As always a fascinating video.

  • @locouk
    @locouk 3 роки тому +90

    But if I get my binoculars out on a clear night, I swear I can see a 6 foot tall metallic monolith on the moon!

    • @websitesthatneedanem
      @websitesthatneedanem 3 роки тому +1

      18ft!

    • @lordgarion514
      @lordgarion514 3 роки тому +8

      Take this like and never speak of those things again.

    • @FrikInCasualMode
      @FrikInCasualMode 3 роки тому +1

      It's just a weather baloon.

    • @nicosmind3
      @nicosmind3 3 роки тому +4

      I can see a teacher that works in my school (Harry Herpson High School) on the moon. Its blurry but its definitely him

    • @locouk
      @locouk 3 роки тому +1

      @@websitesthatneedanem
      It’s a small one, that’s all they could fit in the Tesla.

  • @SchardtCinematic
    @SchardtCinematic 3 роки тому +23

    Curious Droid also did a good video on this too.

    • @RogerBarraud
      @RogerBarraud 3 роки тому +2

      Also ... too:
      SYNTAX ERROR. REDO FROM START.

  • @Undy1
    @Undy1 3 роки тому +3

    I often have to mention to people that we would need a 100m diameter UV (200nm) telescope, ideally in LEO to see details on the Moon at a resolution of 1m/px and that the largest telescope that's in operation right now is 10.4m.
    It rarely does anything. I even had people question the basic optics formulas I used for these calculations saying that they would trust them if I would've derived them myself. Some people are just too far gone.
    I also had an unpleasant discussion with someone that refuted all evidence about Moon landings and space flight in general because "nobody ever landed a [manned] rocket on Earth" - and of course no amount of argumentation, proof or physics calculations were able to convince him that it's actually easier to land a small lander on the Moon than it is to land a whole rocket vertically on Earth.

  • @PauxloE
    @PauxloE 3 роки тому +22

    "It's amazing that we can see these old objects in space" - Actually, this is a quite young space object, compared to all the other objects we see out there.

  • @LSF17
    @LSF17 3 роки тому +1

    Hullo Scott I love your videos and how much work you put into them. I always learn new things when I click on your videos. Keep doing what you’re doing! Also you deserve more subs!

  • @4x4_travel
    @4x4_travel 3 роки тому

    Great explanation- Thanks for the details and examples!

  • @fredwupkensoppel8949
    @fredwupkensoppel8949 3 роки тому +5

    This is why I always design my KSP rockets so that every booster either falls back to Kerbin or smashes into my destination.
    You may ask "But isn't that expensive?" and my answer is "Shut up I'm playing sandbox only anyway."

  • @Monkeyb00y
    @Monkeyb00y 3 роки тому +3

    I love these kinds of videos. Any chance you can do a video about weird anomalies / pictures / videos from official resources, like the Black Knight satellite and other live feed situations?

  • @IowaHawkeyes59
    @IowaHawkeyes59 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you for all your hard work and knowledge you share! You are one incredible guy!

  • @stage1greg
    @stage1greg 3 роки тому

    thanks scott, always great to see a new video. cheers!

  • @calvinthedestroyer
    @calvinthedestroyer 3 роки тому +9

    Looks in telescope: Ahh, there's my keys..

  • @steve1w33x
    @steve1w33x 3 роки тому +11

    Dang I'm am extremely early. I love your work Scott, keep up the great work ❤

    • @quandaledingle8960
      @quandaledingle8960 3 роки тому

      Flyers eat bootyhole

    • @TheStefanmack1
      @TheStefanmack1 3 роки тому

      That's why you cant see a polar bear in a snow storm.

    • @steve1w33x
      @steve1w33x 3 роки тому +1

      @@quandaledingle8960 They are a better hockey team than you, so ligma.

  • @titusnelson9499
    @titusnelson9499 3 роки тому

    Thanks Scott. Nice review. The photos of old Lunar Landing Sites were fantastic. Thanks for including them.

  • @jimzielinski946
    @jimzielinski946 3 роки тому +1

    You provide an excellent description of the difference between resolving and detecting an object. I would say your presentation also applies to darkfield microscopy. I think it is interesting how these concepts can apply to the very near and small objects as well as the astronomically far objects.

  • @KnighteMinistriez
    @KnighteMinistriez 3 роки тому +4

    It's weird how technology works. Cameras need light to work. Why are there stupid people that don't understand this simple fact? Go learn how cameras work and you'll understand this video a little bit better. I liked this video. This was a good video. Keep up the good work.

  • @benmol_
    @benmol_ 3 роки тому +20

    4:55 Techniques Spatiales has a fantastic YT channel (in French, and an other one in English : "French space guy")

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  3 роки тому +10

      Yes he does!

    • @Reth_Hard
      @Reth_Hard 3 роки тому +2

      Salut les amis francais! :D

    • @max_kl
      @max_kl 3 роки тому

      Ah thanks, I only knew of the French channel and watched all the videos with subtitles. His latest video is not on the English channel though, so maybe he has already given up on it...

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 3 роки тому +3

      Alex space French guy cooking?

    • @benmol_
      @benmol_ 3 роки тому +3

      @@max_kl he is currently working on two big projects : Techniques Aéronautiques and a documentary about the Soviet lunar rocket N1. His English channel is probably not his highest priority now (but I think he wants to make his N1 movie available in English)

  • @johngaltline9933
    @johngaltline9933 3 роки тому +1

    For whatever reason, this was really interesting. Thanks!

  • @PlayItForTradition
    @PlayItForTradition 3 роки тому

    Thanks Scott! Fascinating and well explained topic. Cheers.

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 3 роки тому +20

    "Blacker than the blackest black times infinity." -- Nathan Explosion

    • @ryanallen2001
      @ryanallen2001 3 роки тому

      "Darker'n a black steer's tuckus on a moonless prairie night." - the cowboy from The Big Lebowski

  • @luckystriker7489
    @luckystriker7489 3 роки тому +6

    3:15 When you said "against a dark background" I immediately started looking for the book of the same name by Ian M Banks on your bookshelf and sadly I could not find it.

    • @joecerone
      @joecerone 3 роки тому +1

      maybe if you put it up against a dark background you'd be able to spot it easier

    • @RogerBarraud
      @RogerBarraud 3 роки тому

      Through A Bookshelf, Lightly...

  • @avenuex3731
    @avenuex3731 3 роки тому +1

    The black field white spot, white field black spot problem vs resolution is also relevant to SLA 3D printing when polymerizing small positive or negative features. Great explanation

  • @jordanboulden8882
    @jordanboulden8882 3 роки тому

    I have always wondered about this question, thanks Scott

  • @iindium49
    @iindium49 3 роки тому +4

    Its a shame we can't use that space debris to build space stuff it costs a lot to get it up there.. space recycling would be a cool emerging market. Also the image of the return capsule in the desert reminded me of this old movie the Andromeda strain. Lol

  • @martipg3866
    @martipg3866 3 роки тому +8

    I appreciate that he still says "for those who speak imperial" every damn time lmaoo

    • @STho205
      @STho205 3 роки тому +1

      US Americans don't speak Imperial. They speak US Customary (as well as French Metric which Congress accepted as a standard in the 1850s). 16 oz in a pint. 128oz gallons. US ounces too are different (bigger) than Imperial. The US Congress adopted a standard decades before the Imperial Council met in the old kingdom's Commonwealth to finally build their standard for their colonial oppressions...i mean posessions. If you're going to be a little turd, then get your shite right.

    • @martipg3866
      @martipg3866 3 роки тому +1

      @@STho205 then it is even worse than I imagined...Thanks for the info tho

    • @STho205
      @STho205 3 роки тому

      @@martipg3866 vice le France. They still use medieval post Roman measures though, and so do you, ...probably without even realizing it.

    • @user-pk9qo1gd6r
      @user-pk9qo1gd6r 3 роки тому

      @@STho205 Vive *la* France. And appart from niche use of nautical miles we really only use metric, unless you have a specific example in mind. Even our pint is metric, being half of a litre.

    • @STho205
      @STho205 3 роки тому

      @@user-pk9qo1gd6r you use fonts. 72 points of a French inch. Time is also not metric, nor is common radian geometry. Napoleon tried metric time and the people rejected it. Jefferson proposed a metric complex new measure based on the foot cut into 10 inches, etc when he was Sec of State 1788-1792. Congress rejected that as a pedantic exercise of no use, but they did coin metric money, over a century before European and Asian nations. Congress just standardized on the most common classical measures, based on 2,4,8,16 since they were designed by the ancients as market measures. Imperial later chose a independently different standard on volume that was half metric 20oz pints and 160oz gals as well as mils of inches.
      French Metric was designed as a naturalist/scientist measure. The new Republic had to pick something since every province had different market measure systems. It was as good as any, but in 1795 most people did not think or work in tens or decimal math, as that was novel. Customary is best for splitting up bulk items evenly since it is based on 2,4,8,16...
      F and C are both developed by naturalists and on a 100 scale. C being 0 to 100 for freezing/boiling water. F being 0 to 100 for the scale of animal health and survivablity. 50 being the moderate temp (Spring/Fall) for Europe at time.
      I, in the US, use both systems based on which is better for the task. In the 70s we learned both and the US is officially bi-measure as Canada is bilingual. Use as you like. If not in the US then the advice might be, When in Rome as a hallmark of courtesy.
      France always seemed a girl to me, thus *le* as a purposeful jab. Long live Wellington.

  • @Glenn.Cooper
    @Glenn.Cooper 2 роки тому +1

    Very helpful - thanks!!

  • @adamloverin231
    @adamloverin231 3 роки тому +1

    Love the shirt! If not for COVID layoff, I’d pick one up and add it to my Outlander/Game of Thrones/Breaking Bad/SpaceX/Lord of the Rings/Walking Dead/Angry Astronaut collection.
    Thanx again and fly safe, Scott. 👍

  • @pinnedcomment8614
    @pinnedcomment8614 3 роки тому +12

    Only one sport has ever been played on the moon.
    A game of golf on the moon was recorded in 1971. Alan Shepard hit a golf ball on the surface of the moon.
    Wanted to share some useless info :)

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  3 роки тому +11

      His buddy threw the Javelin.

    • @paulhaynes8045
      @paulhaynes8045 3 роки тому +4

      @@scottmanley could you hit a ball into lunar orbit?

    • @lukefreeman828
      @lukefreeman828 3 роки тому +1

      @@paulhaynes8045 not from here.
      Maybe with a 9 iron?

    • @bendeleted9155
      @bendeleted9155 3 роки тому

      You can only do it once because you gotta ditch the space suit.

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  3 роки тому +1

      No.
      In fact I don’t believe there are any firearms that have the muzzle velocity to reach lunar orbit.

  • @the20thDoctor
    @the20thDoctor 3 роки тому +7

    8:23
    Uh-huh, sure, asteroids. Riiiiiiiight...

  • @hero314
    @hero314 3 роки тому

    Really enjoyed this video, thanks!!

  • @ViktorSwimwell
    @ViktorSwimwell 3 роки тому +1

    Fascinating. Thanks again for the information.

  • @davidkellogg9728
    @davidkellogg9728 3 роки тому +4

    need a video that's just Scott saying "mirror"

  • @caconym358
    @caconym358 3 роки тому +15

    I can’t hear the words “against a dark background” without thinking of the Iain [M.] Banks book of the same name. Not Culture, but an underrated one IMO.

    • @suricatakat6476
      @suricatakat6476 3 роки тому

      Excellent novel that got three mentions in this video. ;)

    • @alexandergutierrez6521
      @alexandergutierrez6521 3 роки тому

      If you look on his Twitter he says that book was just out of frame

    • @jackdaniel4446
      @jackdaniel4446 3 роки тому

      But not one of the ones behind him on the shelf - I sort of wondered if he'd plonk it there as an easter egg

    • @alexandergutierrez6521
      @alexandergutierrez6521 3 роки тому

      @@jackdaniel4446 He did but I was out of shot, he said so on twitter

    • @rogerstone3068
      @rogerstone3068 3 роки тому

      And as Banks warns us, it really IS a dark one. Spooky dark.

  • @mikeg_123
    @mikeg_123 3 роки тому

    This is such a super interesting video. Thanks!

  • @severinopereiracarollofilh5933
    @severinopereiracarollofilh5933 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the explanation! Very interesting. Congratulations.

  • @GlitchedPenguin
    @GlitchedPenguin 3 роки тому +6

    8:25 Sure. . . we believe you *X-Files plays*

  • @RustyorBroken
    @RustyorBroken 3 роки тому +8

    My God, it's full of stars.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 3 роки тому +1

      One.. by four.. by nine...

    • @SleepDeprivedAdult
      @SleepDeprivedAdult 3 роки тому

      Every place you look is full of stars. Its only because we are living inside of a galaxy.

    • @RustyorBroken
      @RustyorBroken 3 роки тому

      @@SleepDeprivedAdult i highly suggest that you watch 2001 A Space Odyssey. The reference i made will become clear, but you have to watch the entire film.

    • @RustyorBroken
      @RustyorBroken 3 роки тому +1

      @@andersjjensen I had to Google that one. I tip my hat to you, sir.

    • @SleepDeprivedAdult
      @SleepDeprivedAdult 3 роки тому +2

      @@RustyorBroken i see. Time to watch a movie

  • @Koozomec
    @Koozomec 3 роки тому

    Thank you again Scott for those explanations.
    @4:57 "techniques spaciales" has very good videos on his yt channel too.

  • @bobg1685
    @bobg1685 3 роки тому

    It's comforting to know there are people out there who understand this science voodoo like space and planets and rockets.

  • @LuckyGoe1975
    @LuckyGoe1975 3 роки тому +7

    1.170.000 follower's... Never ever heard him ask to give his video a "thumbs up" or ask to subscribe 😀. Even "brilliant" or "surfshark VPN" never get mentioned in his videos 😉

    • @mrb.5610
      @mrb.5610 3 роки тому +2

      Come to think on it, I don't think Scott has ever been sponsored by anyone either ...
      He does it for the fun of it and I'm certainly grateful !

    • @quangho8120
      @quangho8120 3 роки тому +1

      Scott has a day job, so he can do this. Other youtubers sort of have to get sponsors or else they go bankrupt

    • @LBCAndrew
      @LBCAndrew 3 роки тому +2

      Scott has been required viewing material for the star citizen crowd for years.

  • @vividthespis
    @vividthespis 3 роки тому +4

    Curious Droid did a great video on this as well. Nicely done to the both of you.

  • @budgiefriend
    @budgiefriend 3 роки тому

    Very informative, thanks.

  • @DanSmithBK
    @DanSmithBK 3 роки тому +1

    I’m slightly gutted by this. I did my astronomy badge when I was a kid, which gave me my life long love of space stuff. But back then, the leader that did the badge took us to an observatory nearby, and we were told the little thing we were looking at on the moon is the Apollo lander.... clearly BS I’ve just discovered ;-(. Every day is a school day! Great content Scott, thank you!

  • @jeffreysmith6910
    @jeffreysmith6910 3 роки тому +8

    Scott, thank you for pronouncing Chabot as “Shabo” instead “Chabut”!!!

    • @pauldzim
      @pauldzim 3 роки тому +2

      Well, he lives close by

    • @jeffreysmith6910
      @jeffreysmith6910 3 роки тому

      @@pauldzim yeah, I grew up nearby but I'd STILL hear people say "Chabut".

  • @donkoltz1
    @donkoltz1 3 роки тому +4

    8:24 slip of the tongue, or the start of the overton window shift? /s

    • @daos3300
      @daos3300 3 роки тому +1

      more like a realignment. feels like it's been shifting - backwards - for quite some time.

  • @donkoltz1
    @donkoltz1 3 роки тому

    Well done, Jaxa.

  • @jscott099
    @jscott099 3 роки тому

    Very cool. Thanks for the detailed information

  • @ratandmonkey2982
    @ratandmonkey2982 3 роки тому +14

    why does the Japanese dude holding the capsule look like he's defusing a bomb?

    • @Kualinar
      @Kualinar 3 роки тому +8

      Not a bomb, but need to be handled with as much, if not more, care than a bomb.

    • @suricatakat6476
      @suricatakat6476 3 роки тому +6

      My guess would be protection from potential radiation exposure... maybe? Also: holding it like a box of newborn kittens because you don't want to be the guy that drops that after everything it's been through and for.

    • @michaeltaylors2456
      @michaeltaylors2456 3 роки тому

      Actors doing their best to add gravitas to the scene

    • @44R0Ndin
      @44R0Ndin 3 роки тому +14

      @Alain Martel has it partly right in that you do have to treat it with as much care as a bomb.
      @Suricata Kat was wrong. It's not because it's radioactive.
      Here's what I've heard is the reason for the suit:
      The reason the dude is wearing a "bomb disposal suit" (properly called an Explosive Ordinance Disposal (EOD) suit) is that the capsule uses pyrotechnics to do many things, like detaching the backshell of the capsule, and deploying the parachute(s).
      If any of those pyrotechnics didn't go off for some reason, that means that that whole sample return capsule must be treated as if it was a live pyrotechnic device, and an EOD suit is a suitable (pun intended) way to handle such things. Right when you walk up to the thing you don't know if all the pyrotechnic devices went off or not, so the first person to go close to the thing has to be in a EOD suit.
      TL:DR The guy's in an EOD suit because the sample return capsule has handling requirements that almost exactly line up with the handling requirements of unexploded/dud ordinance (UXO).

    • @eval_is_evil
      @eval_is_evil 3 роки тому +4

      @@michaeltaylors2456 you never heard of the protocols dealing with devices that have or HAD explosive substances in them ? You also think that hundreds of millions of dollars mission does this thing just for kicks,yes ? Do you have some better research that would make such protocols obsolete ?
      Idiot. Have some respect.

  • @mistrants2745
    @mistrants2745 3 роки тому +34

    Prediction: the moon is too bright which makes it exponentially more difficult to see a small object compared to if it were in the dark of space.
    EDIT: not correct but in the right direction!

    • @bendeleted9155
      @bendeleted9155 3 роки тому +5

      I thought it was just because the moon won't hold still. Infuriating! 😉

    • @waitaminutedoggie8048
      @waitaminutedoggie8048 3 роки тому +2

      @@bendeleted9155 Cursed physics!

    • @ayebraine
      @ayebraine 3 роки тому

      It's like why, say, search and rescue can see your beacon light from kilometers away (provided it's powerful enough) - its lamp is less than an inch in size, but from that distance and at that ambient light (at night) it looks as if a huge ball of light (many meters wide) existed at your location. Rescuers' eyes collect the extra photons and they overload the adjacent rods in the retina (or pixels in a camera), so the light is now visible, even though it's miniscule in angular size! Like, if it was real-size in your eye, it would be a tiny fraction of one of eye's "pixels". Just like distant streetlights or floodlights at night.

  • @Darryl_Frost
    @Darryl_Frost 3 роки тому +1

    every radio engineer knows this as path loss and noise floor, size doesn't matter, it's the number of photons you get as a function of brightness (system gain), and path loss (distance) and noise floor (background 'brightness').

  • @BenJ2827
    @BenJ2827 3 роки тому

    Excellent and informative video!

  • @chris-hayes
    @chris-hayes 3 роки тому +7

    8:24 "... looking for spacecraft ..." lmao, Scott confirms we're looking for alien spacecraft

  • @deepbluesea2235
    @deepbluesea2235 3 роки тому +18

    You should say on the upcoming flight of the sn9 "I'm Scott Manley here, flip safe" right?

    • @Bratfalken
      @Bratfalken 3 роки тому +9

      I have a feeling sn10 will beat sn9 to the launchpad, sn9 tried to flip in the dressingroom! ;)

    • @hjalfi
      @hjalfi 3 роки тому +1

      @@Bratfalken It's just overenthusiastic.

    • @carlsutherland3730
      @carlsutherland3730 3 роки тому

      SN9 got cold feet!
      Might be scared of heights?

  • @hillbillytarzan
    @hillbillytarzan 2 роки тому +1

    Need to watch John Lenard Walson to see some really close ups of the moon, for an amateur astronomer. It’s unbelievable. Some of the craft he is capturing in space are mind blowing.

  • @Flightcoach
    @Flightcoach 3 роки тому

    Amazing! Want more of this

  • @bertblankenstein3738
    @bertblankenstein3738 3 роки тому +4

    I thought Earth's atmosphere also played a factor in seeing distant/small objects.

    • @ABrit-bt6ce
      @ABrit-bt6ce 3 роки тому +1

      There's a wibbly wobbly thing involved there.

    • @kamakaziozzie3038
      @kamakaziozzie3038 3 роки тому

      A Brit good point. there seems to be a lot of wobbly things going on

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  3 роки тому +4

      Yes it just makes your images fuzzy and the ‘pixels’ bigger

    • @colinmiller967
      @colinmiller967 3 роки тому

      @@scottmanley there's also a bit of diffraction through the atmosphere, so positions are altered too outside of light travel tome

  • @JakubSkowron
    @JakubSkowron 3 роки тому +12

    You have nested single quotes on a shirt. Should've used \'

    • @liesdamnlies3372
      @liesdamnlies3372 3 роки тому

      Good catch.

    • @voyageruk2002
      @voyageruk2002 3 роки тому

      Or backticks in JS

    • @Adrobiel
      @Adrobiel 3 роки тому +1

      @@voyageruk2002 Unless the shirt does not support ES6 Template Literals ;)

    • @malcolmbacchus866
      @malcolmbacchus866 3 роки тому

      Two of them are single quotes (one an open quote and one a closing quote), the other two are apostrophes. They are just represented by the same symbol in that font (bad).

  • @MrAlpacabreeder
    @MrAlpacabreeder 3 роки тому +1

    This is a very clever description. Another effect that is taking place is diffraction. Caused by the edge of the optics (your pupil, or the optical tube of a telescope) a star would only be about the diameter of an electron. Visualize the angular diameter of 100,000km diameter viewed from 5 light years away. Diffraction leads to the Airy rings that bloat the image of a star so that it covers multiple pixels. Each point on the moon does the same and all of the Airy rings overlap, so the sub-pixel image of the lander is washed out in all of the other detail. This is what leads to the definition of the diffraction limit of a telescope and is many times the size of an Apollo lander even for the size of the Hubble telescope. We are all amazed at the Hubble images of a thousand galaxies and imagine we are seeing lots of detail, but on that image, Hubble’s diffraction limit is around 10,000 light years. That is, we can’t see the detail of anything smaller than 10,000 light years in diameter.

  • @hashbrown777
    @hashbrown777 Рік тому +1

    Hey Bob, I'm looking at what Jack was talking about and it's definitely not a particle that's nearby. It is a bright object and it's obviously rotating because it's flashing, it's way out in the distance, certainly rotating in a very rhythmic fashion because the flashes come around almost on time. As we look back at the Earth it's up at about 11 o'clock, about maybe ten or twelve Earth-diameters. I don't know whether that does you any good, but there's something out there.

  • @johnkerr762
    @johnkerr762 3 роки тому +4

    I dunno, Bob the flat earther from down the pub says those shadows are just dust from firmament-moths that fly into the bulb.

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  3 роки тому +6

      You need a better caliber of drinking buddies.

    • @johnkerr762
      @johnkerr762 3 роки тому +1

      @@scottmanley Scott! You're right. He's heading to the ice-wall in a motorised bathtub soon anyway.

  • @wingusmcdingus8115
    @wingusmcdingus8115 3 роки тому +4

    This exact argument happened in my high school class, where my teacher was an advocate for teaching about flat earth. I was the only educated one there, and one of the girls in the class asked why they don't just build a telescope with the resolution to see the descent module for the lunar landers.

    • @wingusmcdingus8115
      @wingusmcdingus8115 3 роки тому

      @Trebor yeah it was actually an AQR class but most of the time he spent lecturing about conspiracy theories

  • @bonzogamer6966
    @bonzogamer6966 3 роки тому

    Cool. Good explanation.

  • @JohnSmith77777
    @JohnSmith77777 3 роки тому

    Love that you have Iain M Banks, Culture series in your bookshelf. Wonderful author and series.

  • @Mikecanterbury
    @Mikecanterbury 3 роки тому +3

    Do they know how far and where the Centaur stage went before returning to Earth over the 40 years? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @EBannion
      @EBannion 3 роки тому +4

      With the information they have now (the mission records of the launch and then the recent observations) they should be able to calculate its entire orbit from launch to present. IT's just a matter of doing the math now that there are reference points to check your answers.

    • @yetanotherstronk
      @yetanotherstronk 3 роки тому +1

      Even without the calculations, you can take a pretty good guess as to where it went. It was designed to boost a spacecraft to the Moon from Earth. The distance between these is several orders of magnitude less than the distance from Earth to any other notable space object (Lagrange points could be interesting to visit, but aren't objects). So unless it was 100x overdesigned I suppose it would just have coasted around on an eccentric orbit in near-Earth space.

    • @jakedee4117
      @jakedee4117 3 роки тому

      @@yetanotherstronk Do you think there is interesting space junk stuck in the La grange points ?

    • @yetanotherstronk
      @yetanotherstronk 3 роки тому

      @@jakedee4117 I'm not qualified to say! But I think if the Earth-Moon and Earth-Sun points do have stuff in them it's much more likely to be dust and asteroid debris than our own space junk. Or curious but not very subtle aliens? We have our own probes in at least one of the Earth-Sun Lagrange points.

  • @Runoratsu
    @Runoratsu 3 роки тому +6

    „[…] amazing that we can see these old objects in space!“-I think most objects we can see in space are _a lot_ older than those! They are incredibly young in comparison… 😄

  • @andreask.2675
    @andreask.2675 3 роки тому +1

    A good example for what you are describing are satellites which are visibile with the naked eye (at night): They are some 5 meters accross but you can see them with the naked eye from a few hundred kilometers away. But if you were standing on a mountain and could see a few hundred km far, there would be no chance you could spot a 5m large object on another mountain this far away.

  • @jeffreyknutson
    @jeffreyknutson 3 роки тому +1

    I am new to having a telescope, but I was thrilled that my family was able to see the rings of Saturn with the telescope I purchased at a garage sale! I was wondering why we could see Saturn and its rings, but we couldn't see anything with my telescope of spacecraft on the moon! Now it all makes sense. I will let my family know. Thank you!

    • @FlyingSavannahs
      @FlyingSavannahs 3 роки тому

      There is many an astronomer that had their passion ignited from a childhood view of Saturn through a telescope. There is no nothing like seeing it for real, is there?!?! I'm glad to hear you and your family had such a positive experience. It's also a good sign that you and your telescope are a good match if you can make it do what you want it to do. This isn't always the case with a first scope. Enjoy!

  • @TheNomadluap
    @TheNomadluap 3 роки тому +10

    Last time I was this early I had to spend a few weeks in the NICU.

    • @adamloverin231
      @adamloverin231 3 роки тому +3

      Last time I was this early SN9 hadn’t tipped over. :(

  • @deusexaethera
    @deusexaethera 3 роки тому +3

    TL;DR: Because the Moon is covered in rocks approximately the same size and brightness as small spacecraft.

  • @chandrahaslanka
    @chandrahaslanka 3 роки тому +1

    Love the t-shirt! ❤️

  • @CarBENbased
    @CarBENbased 3 роки тому

    This topic reminded me of when Destin with Smarter Every Day along with Trevor Mahlmann captured images of the ISS transitioning across the partial eclipse back in 2017.

  • @nazgul9709
    @nazgul9709 3 роки тому

    Great info 🤘

  • @stuart207
    @stuart207 3 роки тому +1

    When I read the thumbnail I came here expecting to find posts from nay sayers claiming "Its because we've nev..." Nope Im not even going to say it.. I am very happy to say I was pleasantly surprised. Scott Manley, home of universal enlightenment 👍

  • @Jedward108
    @Jedward108 3 роки тому +1

    Another great video. Question: Could you see man-made objects on the moon with an "analog" telescope that just magnified visible light which you imaged directly with your eye?

  • @jhill4874
    @jhill4874 3 роки тому +1

    Loved Friday night at the Chabot Observatory!

  • @jeb8401
    @jeb8401 3 роки тому +1

    Hey Scott, thanks for sharing all your knowledge with us! Here's a thing I was wondering while watching. Why don't we add things to our equipment so that they can been seen easier in the various wave lengths? Like mirrors, lasers, radio beacons etc?

    • @scottmanley
      @scottmanley  3 роки тому +4

      They took retro reflectors to the moon so if you zap them with a laser you can see the reflection on earth, but it still needs special sensors and filters

  • @daniandres3211
    @daniandres3211 3 роки тому +1

    It's a very interesting subject. I had noticed that a few months ago.
    My retinae definitely haven't got the resolution to be able to see a two-metre sized object placed at a distance of a couple hundred kms. But in the cold and dry winter nights, I can perfectly see the bright light emitted by the two-metre sized light/projector of a light-house at two hundred and seven kms in Mallorca island, from a beach here in Barcelona.
    Also, I could perfectly see the Crew Dragon spacecraft when it flew directly over Barcelona on May this year. It must have been between 100 and 300 kms above our heads, and I can tell you the white sunlight it reflected was very, very strong. It was impossible not to see. That spacecraft is just eight metres long. I shouldn't be able to see anything that size at hundreds of kms of distance. But I am not seeing "the thing", but its light.
    Actually, the same happens with stars. We can see the light emitted by stars that are incredibly far from us, so far that it should be impossible to see those objects. But yes, in the end we are seeing the intense light they emit, not the stars.

  • @jonshellmusic
    @jonshellmusic 3 роки тому

    Hey Scott, love the channel. You are the best! I religiously watch your Space Explanation uploads. Been watching since the early Kerbal days.
    I wanted to offer a pronunciation guide for the Israeli moon lander. The emphasis should be on the final syllable. So Beresheet would be pronounced: beh-ray-SHEET.
    Keep up the good work!

  • @970357ers
    @970357ers 3 роки тому

    You should do a video on how maximum/multiple use of equipment is made. Using the Apollo 5 upper stage as a seismic event being a good example.