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As Bob said "Today's music ain't got the same soul".
Yeah but he wrote that in the 70s!
Holds true for today, too. 😊
That line worked out well
I was JUST racking my brain to try to remember if that was the 70s or 80s and then saw your comment. Thanks. I feel validated. 😁 Have a great day!
Yeah, I like that old time rock and roll.
The song title "25 or 6 to 4" refers to the time of day when the song's writer, Robert Lamm, was working on the lyrics. The phrase "25 or 6 to 4" means "25 or 26 minutes until 4 a.m." Lamm was trying to write a song late at night and was struggling to find inspiration. The lyrics describe his experience of staying up late, searching for words, and watching the sky change as dawn approached. Despite its somewhat cryptic title, the song is widely recognized as one of Chicago's most famous hits.
Thanks for the explanation! I often wondered what the title meant to this great song.
Wnen you are that tired, reading a watch isn't so easy.
best song about writer's block ever, lol
I always he was doing drugs but I researched it and found the same thing you explained.
Yes. 4:35 or 4 didnt work as a lyric or title. "Feeling like I should sleep" its before dawn. So 25 or 6 to 4am.
The one and only Terry Kath on the guitar. The band was FAR better when he was still with the band. He's a phenomenal guitarist. And a great singer as well. He sings lead on Make Me Smile, Color My World, I'm a Man.
Sadly Terry Kath was on drugs and didn't realize the pistol had a bullet in the chamber when he pulled the trigger
Amen, agree wholeheartedly! One of my first concerts, back in 1970.
Besides being a legend guitar god...he had the most beautiful soulful voice.
Agreed! They became a ballad/soft rock band after he accidentally shot himself and I liked the early version as well.
My top ten greatest guitarists definitely would have this guy.
Being born in 1957, and still listening to the music today, I'm convinced that the best music was from mid '60's to '80. Can't beat '70's rock and R&B. Seriously.💜😎✌️👍💃💜
Totally agree!
Ditto
are - Now 77, it seems to me that I lived thru some ox the most amazing music back then. I try to not do the old guy thing.
My dad told me that "Bobby Dylan and those Rolling Stones would never last because their music just wasn't good."
I was born in 56 and couldn't agree more. It's only looking back that you realise we lived through a Golden Age in music. 🤘
@@tesles7848 Now my grandchildren are 4 and 8 and their mother plays Taylor Swift, Taylor Swift and then Taylor Swift ...
Real instruments, no auto tuning, pure talent. Its hard to find this level of musicianship in newer music.
Exactly!
Arguably one of the best live lead riffs ever. Joe Walsh once commented that he had no idea how Terry Kath got that kind of sound out of his guitar/equipment. Gone too young...
After Terry died young, the band was never the same and oddly enough, they never replaced him. It still was a great horns band but more or less Another Saturday in the Park band.
A music journalist once asked Jimi Hendrix what it was like to be the best guitar player in the world and he replied.I don't know you should go ask Terry Kath
Can't agree. He goes off key too many times
can you do better?@@MidwestFarmToys
@@user-bg4yz1xv7q nope, but that isn't really relevant. The guy said it was one of the greatest live leads of all time and I don't agree. There's all kinds of live leads that are better.
Terry Kath, who unfortunately died young, was the guitarist, and Jimi Hendrix's favorite one when they were both alive.
I saw Chicago Transit Authority as the opener for Hendrix in 1969. We had no idea who they were but they blew our socks off! Bought their first album the next day.
I have this picture imprinted in my head of Kath’s hair flopping around (it was shorter than in this video) while ripping during "I’m A Man". Epic!
@@joonzville I'm A Man, live at Tanglewood is so much fun. There was no parts for the horns so they all picked up percussion instruments. The trombone player, James Pankow, was dancing all over the stage, just having a blast. I got to see them 3 times with Terry Kath and most recently in 2016 with Earth, Wind & Fire. They're still touring together so if you get the chance, go see them.
Jimmy also liked Billy Gibbons
Jimmy also became good friends with Billy Gibbons.
You just witnessed one of the Top 5 guitar solos ever recorded IMO
For sure. I’d throw in SRV Texas Flood at the Macambo, Arthur Lee of 10 Years After doing I’m Going Home at Woodstock, Hendrix at Monterey…who’d be a 5th?
the only "solo" was the first 10 - 15 seconds before the bass kicks in while they putting wing nut on symbol. The rest of the song the bass, drums, and organ are kickin' it with the guitar. It's called playing 'lead'.
@@martyjansing2675 if we’re being petty, it’s “cymbal.”
One of the top 5 guitarists whose ever lived IMO
Agree 100% - imagine how much greater he would have become if he hadn’t left us so soon…!
Hello from California I’m a 68 years old woman and this is just one of the bands we grew up listening to. Am so glad I grew up during this era of great music ❤
61. Saw them live.
So true I am of the same age. I get such a kick out watching these young people hear the music that we lived through. LOL!!!
Chicago was an incredibly tight band. Listening to them as a kid I was in awe that they must have practiced thousands of hours to be that tight. To record from “I’m a Man” to Saturday in the Park” and this song, well, incredible. 68 yo also.
So true
No leather clothes, no makeup, no bs. I love Chicago.
That and you can actually hear and understand the lyrics.
Nope wimpy music
Ohhh- THIS is a rabbit hole you NEED to go down - so many years, so many tunes that are timeless!!
Make me smile!
Beginnings and Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is and Call On Me won't disappoint 💯
Hendrix and Clapton both said Terry Kath had the best hands they’d ever seen. His accidental gunshot suicide was tragic on so many levels
Terry kath was one of my top 5
It wasn't suicide, it was just plain stupidity. There is a great documentary about kath on freevee ,about his daughter who never knew him Learning about him.
I wasn't suicide, it was just plain stupid. There is a great documentary about him on Freevee , about his daughter who never knew him going on a journey to find out about him.
Listening to bands like Chicago or Steely Dan is like unwrapping a gift with each song. The moment the music begins, it transports you to another place or time, leaving you completely immersed. Their sound isn't just heard; it’s an experience that stays with you, drawing you in every time.
This is especially true with Steely Dan!
Yes! Steely Dan. Ricky don’t loose that number. Great times for sure
Our high school band was invited to march in a parade in Chicago. We were able to stay a couple of extra days to go to the museum and attend a huge concert in the park for their 4th of July celebration. We actually got to see Chicago (the band) play several of their hits. Our band director inspired so many children to join and continue band because he chose to invest in the current music for us to play. Even the visiting teams loved when our pep band played 25 or 6 to 4. Our trumpet section blew everyone's socks off. I'm thrilled that you enjoyed the music that I still love listening to!
Peter Cetera (bass), Terry Kath (Guitar), and Robert Lamm (Keyboards) were ALL lead singers for Chicago during their glory days. Each had a unique sound, which may be why their harmonies were so good. For example, check out the song "Beginnings' which Lamm sings or "Color My World" or "Make Me Smile" which Kath performs lead. Maybe even "Saturday in the Park" in which both Lamm and Cetera perform lead vocals.
Agree, and in my mind's eye, I can still see Peter go on his tiptoes as he reached those high notes. 😊
Are you kidding me? Never heard of Chicago? They are so awesome! Next should be ….Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is and Saturday In the Park! This is how good music used to be!!
Yes it is
YES, FOR SURE!
Bass player and singer, Peter Cetera, got in a fight at a Cubs game and got his jaw broken in three places. Cetera found that when they cut the wires off, he could only gingerly open his mouth, afraid to have his jaw stuck open again. It changed his entire singing style and had the fortunate side effect of producing one of their best-loved hits, ‘25 or 6 to 4‘.
At Dodger stadium, by 3 dodger fans, a few weeks before this live performance. You can detect a wince at times.
@@danielfox6907 Yep, the Cubs beat the Dodgers 7-0 and him being a Cubs fan and celebrating at Dodgers stadium combined with alcohol doesn't turn out well.
Glad you discovered this! Early Chicago is terrific!
Yes, their early efforts are better. They became more pop oriented and lost some of the fire shown here in their later years.
I want to thank you for keeping this music alive. I love seeing the younger reviewers like you and others that are discovering what we grew up with - no computers, no auto tune, just pure talent and love for their craft
POSSIBLY THE GREATEST GUITAR SOLO PERIOD
THE STUDIO SOLO IS CLASSIC
As a "Certified Geezer" (71) who is still listening to music coming out today, I find it particularly enjoyable watching these videos as a younger generation discovers the music I grew up with and realizes not only is a lot of it pretty damn awesome, but that much of what we hear these days directly descends from what came before. Keep searching, Bro; there's a lot out there worth rediscovering (and not just the hits).
71 here, too! And I feel the same way! I love hearing our music thru new eyes & ears! We had so much real talent then. Did we fully appreciate it? Or did we think it would just continue forever? ❤
You got that right..lol
I'm with you guys...it was a special time back then.
Lots of new psychedelic rock out there that’s amazing.
@@Carlos559Caps Check out "The Chesterfield Kings"--garage meets "Strawberry Alarm Clock."
Chicago was a monster while Terry Kath was alive. After he died, they became a pop ballad machine under Peter Cetera, the bass player’s lead. I saw them in ‘69 at DePaul University in Chicago, where the horn section went to school. Their first album is one of the best debut albums of the era. ✌️❤️🎶
First 5 albums were great! Every song.
Walter Parazaider always says we became a band in Chicago on February 15th nineteen hundred and 65. Also he has dementia now which is super sad.
I heard someone say Chicago were great until Cetera got locked in a Hallmark store over a weekend. Lol
Still Monsters, I will be at the concert tomorrow night in San DIego. Still three original members going strong.
@@loadedorygun he left because chicago dumped david foster as producer so he left with foster to go solo.
Don't forget about Danny Seraphine on drums. Whenever talking about great drummers they always mention Neil Peart & John Bonham (definitely great drummers) surrounded by their huge kit, yet they never mention Danny who constantly kills it using basically a starter kit (bass, floor tom, 1 or 2 toms, and a crash, ride & high-hat cymbal.
Yes, ironically they got rid of Danny because they were never satisfied that he could maintain a consistent beat. Sounds like got fixated on it and couldn't let it go.
Danny's a great jazz drummer, who impressed the great drummer Buddy Rich. Just as Terry Kath impressing Jimi Hendrix. When the recognized leaders of their craft respect your talents, you are really something else!
Chicago was his idea.
@@owendormanen Along with Walt Parazaider. Walt wanted to do a rock band with horns, they used to practice at his parents' house when most of the guys were in college. Kath was self-taught.
If you love Danny, check out this crazy mashup between Danny and Igor Javad-Zade (Leonid & Friends). Danny thought so much of Leonid & Friends and Igor that he flew to L.A. and sat in with them. Crazy!
We boomers had bands that thrilled and excited us . Pure and simply awesome ! We had Rock and Roll !
My poor neighbors in the Summer of 1970. I could not get enough of this song and played it constantly at full volume with the windows open. What a great summer it was!
There are those who say this is the greatest guitar solo ever. This video never gets old
It’s what I say!!!!
I have to put it (this live solo) at number 1 as well, followed by Gilmour's Comfortably Numb during the Division Bell tour.
Congratulations! Chicago just entered the room! You will NOT be disappointed with most, if not all, of their music! Their stuff is truly magical!
old Chicago. when the horns fell out of favor, I know they sold a lot of records, but they lost something
Living back in the 60's, 70's and even a bit of the 80's was like living in musical heaven !! Your next Chicago tune : I'm a man - from the same live concert !! Love watching you reactions !!
True.
OMG Chicago was huge! They were a rock-jazz band. ALL of the band members understand and read written music so that’s why they sound so amazing! The horn section was fabulous. These guys got together when they were in college studying music!
25 or 6 to 4...It is the time that this song was created. 25 or 26 minutes to 4 am.........I saw Chicago last year in Northern Ca. Thunder Valley Amphitheatre, outdoor concert. It was a amazing concert. I have realized since watching these reaction music videos, just how fortunate I was to be a teenager with this music! No cell phones, no distractions, just real talented musicians!
I saw Crowded House last night in Chicago and the guitarist said he wrote the song he just played at about 3:35 am when he couldn’t sleep. Then it dawned on me, that time is 25 or 6 to 4. I think he may been telling a joke that only I got.
Sebs, I highly, HIGHLY recommend reacting to the full studio version of their song "Beginnings". Will blow your mind!
⬆⬆⬆⬆⬆ This right here! 💜 "Beginnings"! 💜
Yes-- what he said!!!
Though I usually prefer the studio version of most songs, I think the 1970 Tanglewood live version of Beginnings is better.
Then watch Leonid and Friends version of Beginnings. It will blow your mind for its spot-on accuracy!!
Yup - this is what we got to listen to on the radio, day in and day out!
One of my favorite bands.They were all talented,and different from other bands.Thank you!
I am a 62 yr old Grandma,and Chicago was one of my all time favorites,we were so blessed about 10yrs ago to see them at an outdoor concert at a local Casino. My husband just passed away in June,after 42 yrs of marriage,today is his birthday....thank you so much for this beautiful memory,on this hard day for me,I'm so glad I still have my Chicago hat he bought me that day❤❤they are so amazing😊
So very sorry for your loss 💔
So sorry for the loss of your dear husband. Chicago is one of my very favorites. Kath was such a great writer and guitarist.
Sorry for your loss.
Jimi Hendrix actually loved to see Terry Kath perform!
He also said the horn section shared one lung.
I am taking my 24-year-old son to see them. It's a moral imperative - my responsibility as a parent - to teach my children about this music!
Very funny.
If you want to see their music done to total perfection with joy- take your son to see the Russian Chicago tribute band- Leonid and Friends. Their performances are beyond amazing and they sound like Chicago would’ve sounded with current sound engineering. They’re all over YT. ❤
They've been touring with Earth Wind and Fire for years. Two of the greatest bands and horn sections ever. A can't miss concert to expose anyone to great music.
I salute you and approve of your mission to combat bad music with good.
I was that kind of parent too, our daughter just flew from Alaska to Atlanta just to see their show , she said it was pretty dang good for old men, lol. They were with Earth Wind and Fire and she thought the money was well spent. The show was sold out.
Terry Kath, Jan Akkerman and Rory Gallagher are the three guitarists who definitely belong in the pantheon of the ten greatest rock-guitarists of all time … but keep getting forgotten.
Saturday in The park live is awesome as well
Yes! I was going to suggest that one too!
Cool to see young people discovering great music of the past. As a gen-xer this is what we fell asleep to in the 70s and 80s on Friday and Saturday nights. There's a reason why we think we lived through the greatest music ever.
I wish there were more real music fans like you that will learn about and preserve music by the artists of the Rock Era 50’s, 60’s, 70’s, 80’s. As music changes through the expanse of human history, this era of music is truly special. I enjoy watching you discover it. I am 69 now and I hope that it continues to inspire real talent and creativity for a very long time. Much of this music is 50 years old or longer. I think it will withstand for centuries.
This is my favorite band of all time, and I've been around a long while. They are incredibly talented and have numerous great songs. Listen to anything with Terry Kath playing the guitar. He passed away long before his time and the band was never the same.
Have you seen the fabulous Chicago tribute band that’s taking the world by storm- Leonid and Friends? They’re from Russia and will take you back the perfection of young live Chicago. They’re on YT- thank me later! ❤
A bunch of the guys are from the NW side of Chicago. My cousin grew up with them. He said they always checked on old friends, even when they were huge.
This is what we heard on the radio growing up. All the music that amazes you. We were so lucky. Loved this!
I loved the “horn bands” of the 70’s - Chicago, Blood Sweat and Tears, Tower of Power and Canada’s Lighthouse!
I also suggest you hook up with earth wind and fire, they were incredible musicians.
Ides of March had one hit (Vehicle) in '70 that had terrific horns too.
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A number of bands had horns. You could give the obvious one, Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass *lol*, but then Motown relied heavily on horns, so of course did Earth Wind and fire. As a side note BB King on his sirius channel mentioned that he, Jimmi Hendrix and Chicagos brass section did a jam session at Electric Ladyland Studios in the Village in NYC. Sadly the tapes were lost, that would have been something.
To quote the great John McClane, "Welcome to the party, Pal." Terry Kath was one of the greatest guitarists you never heard of. There's a documentary about him, done by his daughter, that is well worth watching. I believe it's called "The Terry Kath Experience."
Their music totally catches you off guard but your ears know what to expect...something comfortably familiar in their SOUND...yes that strat has everyhing to do with it!!!!!
i got to p[ay some Chicago tunes in 69 and70 in Vietnam with the 101st army band. We loved their stuff and we had the horns to do it. Great reaction
I love that James Pankow (on trombone) is acting like his own band's biggest fan.
Me, too. I believe that, although Kath led the group while on stage, Pankow kind of led the horn section (I'm certain he did all the arranging for the horns, but of course that wasn't while on stage). So Pankow had reason to keep an eye on Terry, but man, he is digging every note while Terry is on a solo. He may actually have been his own band's biggest fan.
@@i.marchand4655 pankow was one of my idols when I was learning trombone. Chicago my favorite band. Still go down the rabbit hole when to this day listening to them. Never gets old.
Love Jimmy! So much energy in concert.
Lol jimmy trombone -- composer extraordinaire❤
@Brockthedog315 Chicago and (believe it or not) Herb Alpert And The Tijuana Brass were my big two while learning trombone myself in younger days.
Hendrix was asked " how does it feel to be the greatest guitarist of all time?" He said, "I dont know, ask Terry Kath".
Never happened, but it lets someone quote it for every other guitarist out there.
You can ALWAYS tell the music fan in the room.... I LOVE !!!! The way he played the original after the live version. You my friend are a true music fan.
If no one has said this yet in your comments yet, no lie when Chicago opened for Jimi Hendrix he would be side stage every night to watch and listen to Terry Kath play his guitar. Jimi loved his playing so much!
FYI, the chord progression is Am; Am(G-bass note);Am(F#-bass); F, E, over and over. Bridge is F; C; G; F, back to Am. The last chord that was blowing your mind is the horns playing a B minor triad over the rhythm playing Am. Terry Kath was the most versatile guitar player ever . I was fortunate enuff to see the original 7 three times in 69/70.
The band was put together by the guys in the horn section. They wanted to be in a rock band but not stuck in the back doing dance routines. They wanted to be out front with the guitar and vocalist They also wrote many of the songs and did the arrangements. A great band and I won't argue the #13 ranking. ☮💜🎶
When Jimi Hendrix was asked by interviewers in the US what it felt like being the greatest guitar player in the world, he would reply. I don't know you better go ask Terry Kath.
This is a God Tier guitar solo.
I really enjoy watching your reactions and hearing what you have to say. When you decided to listen to the album version I thought that was pure gold. I really like how you want to get to the bottom of things and experience it fully
One of the "go-to" songs from Chicago for a vast majority of high school marching and pep bands through the 1970s.👍
Same Tanglewood Concert… “I’m a man!” Phenomenal you’ll love it!
From Far Out Magazine - 'As we turned to leave, there was a guy standing in the doorway, and it's Jimi Hendrix. He looked at us and said, 'You guys have a horn section that sounds like one set of lungs and a guitar player who's better than me.' Jimi was hardly above complimenting other guitarists, naming Billy Gibbons (ZZTop) as a favorite. When asked 'How does it feel to be the greatest guitarist in the world? Jimi responded with "I don't know, ask Rory Gallagher". In your spare time check out Russian 'Leonid and Friends'. They are a Chicago cover band that do a pretty fantastic job.
According to other internet posters, Hendrix said that of Glen Campbell and Roy Clark.
@@justwondering5651 It is an often quoted 'non-quote' about those and many others that was never (at least at this time) ever found to be true.
@@justwondering5651 I've heard from the mouths of biographers the references to Kath, Gibbons and Rory. If he said the same of Campbell and Clark he would not have been wrong, but this is the first I've heard those names mentioned by Hendrix.
Wow, you are sooo rigt!
72 year old who grew up with this music. I have to admit that we Boomers grew up with some awesome music and performers!
We did!!!🎸🎶🔥
You're spot on, he was writing a song early in the morning and it was amazing, I was a rock drummer in a local rock band in SE Kansas. And Chicago was one of my favorite bands in the early 1970's as the Beatles were on the way out. And they did it live as well as they did it on the album. Best
Glad you checked the studio version as well, so clear, sharp and harmonic…
Been a Chicago fan since the early 70s! Own a '67 Camaro SS 350 convertible 49 years! I was in the USCG in the 70s and drove 200 miles n 2.5 hours, going through Richmond, and got a ticket early AM listening to this on 8track! My favorite Chicago song is Make me smile(Girl from Buchanon)! Still love my 67 and my wife of 48 years, and will never forget the only time Diana and I saw Chicago at the Scope in Norfolk! Got high from second hand pot smoke! Terry Kath is IMO the greatest guitar player I've ever seen perform!
🇨🇦 In my humble opinion, the Best music written, played, sung in the last Century, was performed between 1959 - 1989 ! That is 30 years worth !
Truat me when I say you haven't even scratched the surface ! You could spend the next 30 years trying to catch up, and you would still have missed a lot !
Fell in love with Chicago in 1969 and then fell in love with The Who, The Moody Blues, Cream, Led Zeppelin, The Kinks, Pink Floyd, Procol Harum, The Doobie Brothers, The Animals and all these after falling for The Beatles and The Rolling Stones ! (just to name a few)
Peter Frampton, Peter Gabriel, Genesis, Phil Collins, Simon and Garfunkel, The Beach Boys, The Mamas & Pappas, Santana, and I got pages more of these !
I figure, to catch up, you gotta do 10 reactions per day, for 35 years ! 😎 🇨🇦
Props to you for recognizing the horn section! Also, check out Spinning Wheel - Blood, Sweat, and Tears has a killer horn section too.
I can't explain to you how much us nerdy high school marching band geeks loved and appreciated Chicago and Blood Sweat & Tears back in the day.
They are STILL touring live (albeit with some band changes, namely Kath and Cetera being gone), but they still absolutely NAIL everything. I had the privilege of seeing them live 2 years ago in Shreveport. If you get the chance to go see them, don't hesitate!
Well, I haven't read all the replies , but everyone in the band except Robert Lamm has a degree in music, what a concept! He did many of of the lyrics and couldn't read music,,,,
Terry Kath looks like he was a big guy. The guitar looks small in comparison to his body. He’s going crazy on that thang. 😊So sad fooling around with his gun, thinking it was unloaded was so damn tragic. RIP Terry😢
TERRY FRICKIN KATH, ONE OF MY TOP GREATEST CLASSIC ROCK GUTARISTS OF ALL TIME (UNDERRATED TO AND A GREAT VOCALIST ALSO UNDERRATED) "JIMMY HENDRIX ONCE SAID HE PLAYS BETTER THEN ME" 'WOW!!!!' 🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸
Just look at Terry Kath's fingers flying up, down and all around on the fretboard and you see why Jimi Hendrix loved his playing so much.
Props to you. This is my 1st time here. Before you even played this hit (which peaked when I was in college) I realized you (Sebs) would be THE BEST REACTION VIDEO PERSON I have ever heard (and I have heard a lot of them). Your pre-music presentation revealed your intelligence, your exceptional vocabulary and your knowledge of music in general. Then you played the song...And I found that you knew things (recognizing harmonies, chords, pickup switches,, etc.) that few, if any, other reaction video people have even heard of. It truly is a treat to listen to you artfully dissect this song. Keep up the SUPERB work!
Welcome back to the 70's. Stay a while. You can check out any time you like, but your mind will never leave. I put Chicago in the same mental folder as E.L.O. Both of them make magic blending non-traditional instruments into rock songs.
Fantastic decade for music, if I do say so myself - a child of the 70s….
RIP Terry Kath. One of the best to ever do it.
Many people thought EVERY song was about drugs. I personally heard people suggest the title was an LSD reference. smh.
It's called Observational Bias. When exposed to something, you automatically align it to whatever your preferences are. If you are a druggie, everything is about drugs.. If you are a guitar player, you focus in on the guitar, etc for all the other instruments.
I'm the youngest of three brothers (3 years between each of us) Chicago was one of the favorite bands of both my older brothers. I think they owned every one of their albums, yes albums. That is why I know Chicago so well. There were just one of the amazing bands of the 70's
Here's where the title of the song came from:
"“I was living with a bunch of hippies up above Sunset Strip,” Lamm told The Chris Isaak Hour. “One of the advantages of this particular house was that it was in the Hollywood Hills, and I could look out over the city late at night. I wanted to try to describe the process of writing the song that I was writing. So, ‘waiting for the break of day, searching for something to say, flashing lights against the sky’ - there was a neon sign across the city.”
“That song came from the fact that it was 25 or 6 to 4 am in the morning when I looked at my watch - I was looking for a line to finish the chorus,” Lamm added. “Most songs that were written, especially in the early days, whenever I got them to the band, and we started rehearsing them, that’s when the songs took shape - once these guys got hold of them.”
So, he's tired and he's trying to read the clock but couldn't make out the time, so it was either 25 minutes till 4 am or 26 minutes until 4 am, hence 25 or 6 to 4. It's about him trying to write a song 🎵.
57 strat with factory pick ups. Often imitated, never duplicated!!!!
This was my high school.. I played trumpet, and we did numerous Chicago songs... Especially in the stage band.
Whenever I hear this song I'm reminded of being in highschool band playing this song at a halftime show!
This is a great concert with more to watch from it. Chicago is one of those bands that has a different sound early from later on. This particular song and style is from early Chicago.
Definitely listen to more early Chicago. The earliest single from them, off their debut album, was "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" and it has a swingy 60s pop sound. Their second album had the two hits "Make Me Smile" and "25 or 6 to 4." It's a concept album based around an idea called "Ballet for a Girl in Buchannon." Early Chicago blends into later Chicago around '76.
So cool to do the studio version right after!
That’s one of the most historically significant live guitar solos from a musicological perspective I’ve ever heard. So advanced for its time. Wow.
Yes, Hendrix and Page were doing work like this, but his use of scales, blues, and classical riffs, not to mention his Wawa pedal is simply off the hook.
Thanks for playing that.
Really glad you had the chance to get into this Seb and appreciate being able to share 25 or 6 to 4 right along with you.
Love the horns...Check out Al Kooper's Blood, Sweat, and Tears and Paul Butterfield Blues Band (with the amazing Gene Dinwiddie on sax) for mor early horn mischief. Buddy Miles also had an excellent brass section.
Great band from the 70's-80's. They were a rock & roll band with horns & blended elements of classical music, jazz, R&B, & pop music. They had a lot of great songs such as "Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?", "Beginnings", "Feelin' Stronger Everyday", "Questions 67 & 68", "I'm A Man", "If You Leave Me Now", "Hard To Say I'm Sorry", "Saturday In The Park", "Colour My World", "You're The Inspiration", "Will You Still Love Me?", "Look Away", "Old Days" etc.
"Does Anybody Really Know What Time It Is?" made me think of a gag I would pull on people, which probably isn't relevant today with the prevalence of smartphones, but when asked by someone "do you know what time it is" I would look at my watch and say "Yes". I almost got hit by a girl once. Still makes me laugh.
If you listen to the lyrics they tell the story of the writing of the song. During an all-nighter as they were sitting around, someone asked what time it was. The response was "25 or 6 (minutes) to 4 (in the morning)". It sort of wrote itself from there. Had the pleasure of seeing them in concert in 1974 in Long Beach, CA. Fantastic show. The original name of the group was Chicago Transit Authority but they shortened it to Chicago after a lawsuit was filed by the Government entity Chicago Transit Authority who had the name first.
I saw them in 1974 in Long Beach, CA too! Great show!!!!!
They sound like the El in Chicago. Yeah. For Real
Oh my everlovin' actual goodness bro. For those of us born in the '50s and reared on this band and others, you make us so grateful. This is my first visit to your channel... instant sub. Terry Cath is one of the most tragic stories in music history. The work he left behind will forever be an inspiration to anyone like you, open minded enough to explore. He and the music of Chicago won't be hard to find. You're a great dude, you would have been one of our favorite friends in high school back in '76 😅
Since this is my first visit, I don't know what you've been into already or what anybody has suggested, but here's mine: Tower Of Power. Even though they were one of the hardest working stage bands anywhere, with the horn section specifically invited to play with numerous artists of literally every genre, I'd suggest you start with "What Is Hip?" studio version. Peace and love to you and your girls
SB
Yes, this is one of the most literal great songs that I've ever heard, a song about writing a song in the middle of the night. I loved it the first time I heard it and still listen to it at least once every few months.
RIP Terry
Another BIG Rabbit Hole! I saw them live in concert early on, maybe 1970 or 71. They were freakin' amazing! ❤
p.s. You might recognize Peter Cetera's vocals.
Also, Blood, Sweat and Tears and Tower of Power had horns sections, too.
When you're yelling at the sound guy, you have to remember 70s live music was so much different than it was today. It was a baby industry. It was very organic and was not all line in to a digital system. If you moved a microphone 3 in it can blow the whole sound. Walls of speakers. Walls of amplifiers. Oversaturation of sounds. But it was also wonderful and by the seat of the pants beautiful. The fun of a show was the magic of the mix. It's not like today where everyone has a great seat for sound. Everything is different now. No magic left
That’s Terry Kath on guitar. Jimi Hendrix once said Terry was the greatest guitarist in the Universe
FYI Chicago has been a phenomenal Rock band for 50 years and they are still touring the world today.
You haven't heard Janis Joplin? Where have you been? That's like not knowing Hendrix or the Doors. I played this for many years in band class. On flute.
10:15 Atlanta Rhythm Section
Champagne Jam; I'm Not Gonna Let It Bother Me Tonight
Peter Cetera has also done some great duets... Next Time I Fall in Love with Amy Grant and After All with Cher.
These guys were monsters in concert--as good as it gets
Yes, a horn section! Think of Earth, Wind, & Fire's R&B, KC & Thr Sunshine Band's funk disco, and any ska without horns... horns are great stuff!
When I was a kid, we in our family learned how to play musical instruments. My big brother picked up the trombone and was pretty good (high school who had a marching, symphonic, & stage bands). He learned the trombone part to this and crushed it! I played flute. All I could do is threaten to learn a Jethro Tull/Ian Anderson tune and get a microphone when I got to be his age. 😂
Check out the lyrics. They tell an amazing story, you’re racking your brain trying to stay awake trying to finish this song that you need to finish. And it’s 25 or 26 minutes until four in the morning. You’re wondering if you can do it if you can finish it if you can find the inspiration, or even if you can just stay awake and finish it. Love your channel, brother.
I get a kick out of you discovering these great artists from the pass. Sadly, the current artists for the most part, know nothing about great music. You should check out Chicago's greatest hits, there were many.
Good reaction. RIP Terry Kath!
Sebs, you scored on this one. Chicago (or CTA) was THE band in my college years. I was in college in St. Louis (70-74), and was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time when I got my first apartment, which wasn't an really an apartment, but a recently closed restaurant bar with housing attached. It came with everything but a liquor license, a bar, booths and ambiance. Me and two roomates started having parties in the summer of 72, and then it was an every Saturday night event, and I knew we lost control when people would come up to me at school and ask "Hey, can I come to your Chicago party this weekend. We started at 8p, with Beginnings and it went from there. God I miss those crazy days! I still have friends that call me about those parties. It was totally Chicago driven and everyone, EVERYONE was a fan.
Terry Kath was one of the greatest guitarists, unfortunately we lost him too early.