Just got back from the local Jeep dealership. I drove two 2018 Wranglers with the 3.6 V6, then I drove one with the 2.0L turbo. The 2.0 was so much quicker. Wow!!!
@@armandcouture4655 I bought the Rubicon with the 2.0 Turbo and I absolutely love it!! I am getting between 21-23 MPG around town. Never been a Jeep person but this new JL has made me a believer. I really really love it!
Amazing that 4 years later, you can get a Wrangler with a 3.6L V6 gas, 2.0L 4 cyl turbo, 6 cyl diesel, 6.4L Hemi, and even a hybrid 4xe drivetrain. I placed an order for a 2023 Wrangler Sahara 4xe a few weeks ago, looking forward to picking it up.
I bought a 2018 Sport S with a V6 a couple of months ago. I really enjoy it. The Start/Stop feature doesn't bother me. When I get to a light, I let the engine shut off, and when the light is getting ready to change back to green, I lightly lift the brake pedal to allow the engine to start back up again. One thing I will say, since my Wrangler was built in April 2018, the battery that the Start/Stop uses, had died and needed to be recharged. Since then, I've not had any issues with it.
Thanks for the feedback, Duane! I have a 2018 JL with the 2.0L turbo and you don't notice the start/stop system after driving it for awhile. And if it helps me save a little bit of gas, so be it! Sorry to hear about the battery dying though, I hope the Jeep serves you well going forward! -Zach
Well for wheeling the diesel is the engine. But if your daily driving more often than wheeling I would take that 4cyl turbo. Unfortunately all the new emission requirements on new diesels have their set of problems. As for that stopping the engine when you stop your vehicle at a light is totally annoying.
i have an f250 2002,with an mwm 4.2tdi,german tractor engine,built in brazil,you never got them,just the 7.3,chunk.it puts out std 510nm,135kw,bit bigger turbo,700nm,165kw,no computer,all mechanical.great engine.
Great video, Ryan and XT! I would lean towards the diesel option, but the turbo is interesting, too. I’ll hang on to my 2015 2-door until the other engines become available.
@@armandcouture4655 I have the 2019 JL Sport , 2 door with the 2.0T and average 23.9 mpg , we have 8k on the odometer. It's very fun to drive. No mods....yet.
2020 engine option: Water crossing in an electric jeep... also where to plug on the trail? I hope i misunderstood that option. Maybe a independent suspension with a 'mall rated' badge on the fender.
Dude, please get some understanding of electric cars and electricity in general. Seriously. Even a grade school student should know better than this. The battery packs and engines even in a Tesla are 100% submersible. Can you take your gas powered car under water? The Rivian can be had with a 400 mile range. Tell me... How many 400 mile tracks have to taken? Where, in America can you be without being within 400 miles of electricity? I wish you coal rollers would learn to turn on your brains for once. Stop thinking so 1 dimensional. Why do you hate America? Those electric cars are made in America and making jobs. Ford, GM? They are closing factories, while Tesla builds them. With all the electric cars, that means the entire power grid will need updating. New power plants. That means TONS of new jobs and long term jobs. That means new house constructions. So.. Pull your head out and stop being so anti-American.
Is the 3.0 diesel the same one that's in the RAM 1500 and the GC? With any new design of an engine you're going to run into bugs. My money would be on the 3.6 Pentastar with the 6 speed manual, it's been around since 2012. I would love the diesel but the emissions garbage is killing these newer diesels.
a buddy got a 2019 Jeep Wrangler automatic with V6. and he asked me 'why is there a Neutral position in the transfer case. I told him, based on my many years of experience, the neutral is for an accessory installed on a 3rd output of the transfer case... ie: a driveshaft winch, a hydraulic pump [ for dump box etc ], or a rear 550 RPM PTO. However, all these drive items were very foreign to him and he just couldn't understand what the neutral position was for... ok, please answer; in today's environment, what's the Neutral for ????
There's not a whole lot of situations where an automatic vehicle needs to be in neutral in all honestly. People use it if they need to push their car, tow their vehicle, go through automatic carwashes that pull your vehicle through, etc. Outside of that it really is not often used in day-to-day driving. -Zach
My question is the 2.0 durability over time in a vehicle that large ,, i have 240k on my wives 2006 liberty with the 3.7 V6 in it and still runs like brand new , doesn’t burn any oil and doesn’t leak any oil ,, lets see a 4 banger do that in a jeep that size ,, haven’t seen one yet.. just my opinion..
The only problem is that the diesel is made in Italy. Italian diesels are notorious for problems. Give fca a few more years to perfect it for reliability. For now stick with the pentastar v6.
Speaking to the manual or automatic transmission. It's my understanding that the manual will only be offered paired to the 3.6 pentastar, a decent engine but compared to the other 3 not as great IMO. I wish and hope they offer it with the diesel but I doubt they will. I guess we should be lucky they even have a manual option in the first place though.
I think throwing a tune on that little 2.0L is gonna be legit. I am interested in the diesel just because there is no V8 and the other engines are boring :(......
I'm sure Edelbrock and others will make a kit for the Pentastar. So boring is not exactly the word. I'd be concerned with off-idle torque with the 2.0. That's why I ordered the V6.
the JL transmission might be the tipping point for me to trade in my JK for the JL. Otherwise I would be content to keep my JK. My JL pros -possibly the engine(s) -8 speed transmission -quicker throttle response -soft top without ‘cross bar’ -soft top no zippers -quieter soft top -body color roll bar -flat horizontal dash -lighter/aerodynamic tweaks = better MPG -real metal interior detail -real hardware (not faux bolts) interior -larger cup holders -air vents for cooling under hood -more slant in windshield (think rock damage) -doors stay opened -cabin is slightly longer -doors remove easier/faster -telescopic adjusting steering wheel -bigger storage tub My JL cons -push button start -auto start/stop -the bumpers (front and back) -front running lights on fender flare -too much digital visual “noise” on dash -rear camera -no hard drive in radio to store music
You don’t like push start or reverse cameras? Yeah, I hated my new house when they made me hook it up to electricity and running water. They always have to ruin the good things in life like that.... 😜
It's a brick on wheels. So the answer is no. But hey, a Rubi without doors and top down, is still one of the most fun cars you can drive. Who cares what the consumption is.
The new axles on the Rubi is a major upgrade over the JK axles. I have just gotten 37's for mine and all I've done so far is to get 4:56 gears. I'm sure it will work pretty well. I will definitely not touch them until they fail. My old JK needed axle mods right off the dealer lot, just to handle the large rubber.
Yes you can. A lot of these engines that makes more power, runs a ton of boost. 35-40 psi is what most VAG, BMW and Merc cars run in the smaller turbo engines.
ABOlsen69X your comparing a BMW and Merc turbo to a fiat. Most people who have the new JL are seeing 18.5 pounds not 20 pounds claimed by Jeep According to fiat and the forums the turbo maxes out at 25 psi so yea it’s maxed out.Thanks for playing and have a good day.
Mr- T Game's not over yet. That engine is actually developed and used by Alfa Romeo, and it's a great engine. It's very much on par with both a BMW and Merc engine, and developers from both brands would be the first to tell you so. You can say what you like, but here in Europe, we know that while Alfa has had its share of issues with everything from rust and shitty paintjobs to electronics, their engines are among the best. and have been for decades. I own a JL 3.6 and I've driven the 2.0 AT8 engine in the JL, but also in Alfas, I know what they produce in stock form and have first hand experience. What I'm saying is that there's a lot on the table for tuning, more than 5-6 psi. How many cars have you driven with the 2.0 AT8 engine? From your comment, it sounds like all your experience is second hand, so why are you even trying to state your assumptions as fact? Also, just because FIAT was behind it, do you think that makes it worse? Ever heard of FPT? Do you consider the engine in an 812, Portofino or Levante poor quality engines? FIAT knows exactly what they are doing, and anybody in the industry with just half a grain of common sense and sound objectivity knows that. Do you think the engine in a 2.0 liter Golf GTI is much better? It's not, it's just as good. But it produces 40 psi as it does things slightly different. Thanks for playing yourself. Don't bother replying, I'm really not interested.
I do not know of any of these engines running near 40 psi boost pressure on stock internals, turbo, or fueling. Yeah, you can build them to handle it but also how reliable will it be? I do not think anyone would use BMW, Alpha Romeo, or Fiat as an example for reliability.
Sooo, your JK came with a Hemi V8? Okay then, thought not. There's a ton of updates that warrant purchasing the JL. I'm really looking forward to getting my Rubicon 2d with the V6 engine and much better axels and the 6 speed manual trans. I already have my 2 inch lift, 4.56 gears and 37 inch wheels. I know I'm not going to look back.
You are driving a box down the road, they're not efficient, doesn't matter how many gears they add. Throwing 3:45 axle ratios in it though is ridiculous, I thought they were meant for driving offroad not being a fuel efficient Toyota Prius....because that's exactly the way they seem to be headed with all vehicles that have any sort of 4WD capability. Jeep really needs to part ways from Fiat before Fiat completely finished off the Jeep heritage. Electric Jeep makes me think of the little Barbie Power Wheels...if they keep going that's exactly what they're going to turn them into.
Sounds like you may have had experience from a lemon, honestly. Jeeps may leak oil but brand new ones tend to stay dry until at least 100k miles. 😉 In all seriousness the 3.6L Pentastar has a great track record, sorry to hear your not-so-great experience! -Zach
hybrid will more than likely be useful only on the sahara. Eco diesel is a horrible engine, I'm sorry but america makes great v8s but they have no idea how to make a proper and reliable diesel engine. 2.0 turbo might be great mpg and better torque but with jeep's reliability, it'll most likely end up costing tons of money in repairs. Only the tried and tested pentastar seems to be the viable choice. Hope I'm wrong about the turbo though and it turns out to be an amazing engine.
Diesel would be fine if it wasn't electronically controlled and didn't have all the emissions garbage on it. Today's diesels are far less reliable and a lot higher maintenance than they used to be, and way too expensive for the majority of the population...and with many that make really short trips and lots of stop and go driving a diesel is NOT the answer.
Yes, but it has also received a serious update all over. You don't need to mess with axles in the Rubicon anymore when fitting 37's, it has better brakes and so forth. The interior is so nice, but still in a style that fits the Wrangler.
JEEP. If you are listening... We want a Wrangler w/ a 5.7 HEMI !!! They have been built aftermarket. And hats off for MOPAR having man sized balls and creating a HellCat and Demon Charger and Challenger why such an underpowered Wrangler? Why? In the old days one of the most popular mods for our CJs was a Chevy 350 swap. WTF JEEP? We had a production 360cid CJ5 and CJ7 back in the AMC days, why the castrated present day Wrangler? SEE Advance Adapters for 5.7HEMI swap kits fellas... Until then Jeep, how about growing a pair?
With that being said about for the Rubicon and the gearing 80421 there's an aftermarket transfer case adapter it's by Kuhn V they have one called the Goliath and the David where you can triple double or triple your racial you think that's the monster now with the diesel which you buy this adapters for that transmission and you know they're working on it right now that's going to be a bastard of a 4 by vehicle in a jeep with that being said I like to Jeeps I've always wanted one and I've always liked the Land Rover the Land Rover is the caviar of the two don't get me wrong both vehicles had a background in the military during the second World War for all you numbnuts out there who don't know you could take a Land Rover from the dealership pick a spot in the country and drive it right off without any modification that's how they're built My Buddy actually seen that many years ago it was a caravan a Land Rover drivers they just decided one day driving down the highway this looks like a good spot let's take it and they did that's how Land Rovers were built I would have a Land Rover and then it was Jeeps and that fact any of the Land Rovers and the Jeeps from the past Land Rover is bringing back the square boxes version that they had many years ago my buddy Road 1 in Africa when he was big game honey they're badass vehicles
If im paying 50k + for a jeep which is fucking awful i want an inline 6 turbo or a hemi 2 engine options 6 speed manual standard on both jeep get your shit together but people keep buying this garbage so they will never do it
Which engine option is your favorite?
Diesel!
ExtremeTerrain.com wow all electric would spank all of the others. Is it confirmed?
Diesel
Electric, if done right.
The engine with the most torque that has a manual. I heard only the pentastar has it so I’ll take that
Just got back from the local Jeep dealership. I drove two 2018 Wranglers with the 3.6 V6, then I drove one with the 2.0L turbo. The 2.0 was so much quicker. Wow!!!
Jerry Day I wanna test drive that turbo! Only thing is it better for MPG, but super unleaded is the recommended gas type! Less carbon build up!
@@armandcouture4655 I bought the Rubicon with the 2.0 Turbo and I absolutely love it!! I am getting between 21-23 MPG around town. Never been a Jeep person but this new JL has made me a believer. I really really love it!
Amazing that 4 years later, you can get a Wrangler with a 3.6L V6 gas, 2.0L 4 cyl turbo, 6 cyl diesel, 6.4L Hemi, and even a hybrid 4xe drivetrain. I placed an order for a 2023 Wrangler Sahara 4xe a few weeks ago, looking forward to picking it up.
The turbo might be the good in between engine option more power and less expensive then the diesel
I bought a 2018 Sport S with a V6 a couple of months ago. I really enjoy it. The Start/Stop feature doesn't bother me. When I get to a light, I let the engine shut off, and when the light is getting ready to change back to green, I lightly lift the brake pedal to allow the engine to start back up again.
One thing I will say, since my Wrangler was built in April 2018, the battery that the Start/Stop uses, had died and needed to be recharged. Since then, I've not had any issues with it.
Thanks for the feedback, Duane! I have a 2018 JL with the 2.0L turbo and you don't notice the start/stop system after driving it for awhile. And if it helps me save a little bit of gas, so be it! Sorry to hear about the battery dying though, I hope the Jeep serves you well going forward! -Zach
@@extremeterrain You're welcome, and thanks 😊
Have a great weekend, my dude! 😁 -Zach
1980-1981 jeep was offering a wrangler with a Peugeot turbo diesel
The jeeps were shipped to dealer in Placerville Ca where they installed the engine
I am very interested in seeing what the 2.0 can do from what I've read it's torque is in the lower bands. But that Diesel makes me think pure power!
Well for wheeling the diesel is the engine. But if your daily driving more often than wheeling I would take that 4cyl turbo. Unfortunately all the new emission requirements on new diesels have their set of problems. As for that stopping the engine when you stop your vehicle at a light is totally annoying.
They'll probably change that on the '19s or '20s once enough people bitch about it....
Delete all emission system
i have an f250 2002,with an mwm 4.2tdi,german tractor engine,built in brazil,you never got them,just the 7.3,chunk.it puts out std 510nm,135kw,bit bigger turbo,700nm,165kw,no computer,all mechanical.great engine.
Great video, Ryan and XT! I would lean towards the diesel option, but the turbo is interesting, too. I’ll hang on to my 2015 2-door until the other engines become available.
Start/stop option is annoying. I wish they were able to set it to remember the last option used instead of resetting back to on.
Agreed for sure! thanks for watching!
I am most interested in diesel but it will be interesting to hear about the full electric
do you know if the 3.0- liter diesel will have that DEF system attached with it?
Thanks for the review. Those Pentastars in JK's are set to run stupid hot. Do they do the same in JL's?
I would go with a V6. It’s proven itself. And also I think the start stop feature would come in handy at the drive thru window restaurants.
Does anyone know when the 2 liter is gonna be available for delivery?
btw Great Channel. love the content!
We have a JLU Sport S with right around 5,000 miles on it. We average 23.9 MPG.
Nun Ya which engine the turbo? Not the Pentastar
@@armandcouture4655 I have the 2019 JL Sport , 2 door with the 2.0T and average 23.9 mpg , we have 8k on the odometer. It's very fun to drive. No mods....yet.
I want a diesel Rubicon hell yeah
2020 engine option: Water crossing in an electric jeep... also where to plug on the trail? I hope i misunderstood that option. Maybe a independent suspension with a 'mall rated' badge on the fender.
Dude, please get some understanding of electric cars and electricity in general. Seriously. Even a grade school student should know better than this.
The battery packs and engines even in a Tesla are 100% submersible. Can you take your gas powered car under water?
The Rivian can be had with a 400 mile range. Tell me... How many 400 mile tracks have to taken? Where, in America can you be without being within 400 miles of electricity?
I wish you coal rollers would learn to turn on your brains for once.
Stop thinking so 1 dimensional. Why do you hate America?
Those electric cars are made in America and making jobs. Ford, GM? They are closing factories, while Tesla builds them.
With all the electric cars, that means the entire power grid will need updating. New power plants. That means TONS of new jobs and long term jobs.
That means new house constructions.
So.. Pull your head out and stop being so anti-American.
Is the 3.0 diesel the same one that's in the RAM 1500 and the GC? With any new design of an engine you're going to run into bugs. My money would be on the 3.6 Pentastar with the 6 speed manual, it's been around since 2012. I would love the diesel but the emissions garbage is killing these newer diesels.
Blake Watson This is a second gen 3.6. Transmission is new.
I'm saving up and getting the diesel in automatic.
So you're not going to drive it offroad?
I dont think they should offer a v8 but I feel like if the plug in hybrid is done properly it could be a great car
What they should have offered was a torque tuned version of the 2.9 twin turbo V6.
Agreed, Lot of ppl still living in the 70’s, the available options are plenty enough
There is a small wire that runs to the battery to monitor battery voltage. Remove it and bye bye auto start stop
All the shut downs and restarts will where the starter slap out.....I'm sure it will be a very special starter with a special price.
Those starters are very different than traditional starters. The starter and the alternator is the same unit, and it's made to run like that.
3.7 v6 is my fav
any changes in towing capacity?
Hybird-for city OK. But JL have additional weight about 300kg (600lbs)- 2.0di turbo!
Car and driver says the new v6 wrangler automatic is 1.3 seconds faster 0 to 60. That's big.
chris pomplun pull up the jl jk drag race comparison the jl isn't that much faster it was a close race
a buddy got a 2019 Jeep Wrangler automatic with V6. and he asked me 'why is there a Neutral position in the transfer case. I told him, based on my many years of experience, the neutral is for an accessory installed on a 3rd output of the transfer case... ie: a driveshaft winch, a hydraulic pump [ for dump box etc ], or a rear 550 RPM PTO. However, all these drive items were very foreign to him and he just couldn't understand what the neutral position was for... ok, please answer; in today's environment, what's the Neutral for ????
There's not a whole lot of situations where an automatic vehicle needs to be in neutral in all honestly. People use it if they need to push their car, tow their vehicle, go through automatic carwashes that pull your vehicle through, etc. Outside of that it really is not often used in day-to-day driving. -Zach
I’ll keep my 2 door jk but the diesel truck coming just may end up in the driveway too!
My question is the 2.0 durability over time in a vehicle that large ,, i have 240k on my wives 2006 liberty with the 3.7 V6 in it and still runs like brand new , doesn’t burn any oil and doesn’t leak any oil ,, lets see a 4 banger do that in a jeep that size ,, haven’t seen one yet.. just my opinion..
Diesel engine, North America. About time.
The only problem is that the diesel is made in Italy. Italian diesels are notorious for problems. Give fca a few more years to perfect it for reliability. For now stick with the pentastar v6.
Diesel !!!.. but quite interested in seeing the electric one in 2020
I like the diesel.. but know the ram with that engine was an absolute nightmare with cam shafts breaking and blowing up engines
Great review. Eco diesel with the speed would be my dream! I do love my 6 speed Recon though!
so is it more effiecient to pay more for diesel or regular gas?
Outstanding informative piece. I’m interested in the Rubicon diesel and hybrid
Speaking to the manual or automatic transmission. It's my understanding that the manual will only be offered paired to the 3.6 pentastar, a decent engine but compared to the other 3 not as great IMO. I wish and hope they offer it with the diesel but I doubt they will. I guess we should be lucky they even have a manual option in the first place though.
Diesel. With the automatic for the remote start.
2.0 is the option I would go for
Shaheem Mohammed Ali I'd test drive, what worries me is, if off road, turbo lag
SPNK02
Exactly. I chose the Pentastar in mine.
Plug-in version would be great for camping if you have a big lithium battery to power the campground.
I like the idea of a diesel...but Jeep needed a plug in car? Do you find a lot of outlets in the woods?
Bring a gas generator... lol
excellent break down
I’d like the Sport S trim with the 3.6 in the 8speed auto
This is what I don't get. The Rubi as there and is so much more capable. Why would you get anything else?
$$$$$ that’s why!
When is the diesel engine going to be available ??
Absolutely would want a diesel JL!!!
Diesel for towing would be a must.
Waiting for diesel rubi, haven't decided on manual or stick yet.
Manual or stick?
Why would you want the Rubi in a diesel? It will be way too heavy.
Bring back the straight six
Nick Scaring 👍
Nick Scaring it will never happen, that motor was made to last, unlike today's motors.. Perform well then fall apart after 2-3 years!
I would buy a new Jeep then other then that they’re trash 😂😅
No i terestin the electric jeep - love my 3.6 but want to try a 2.0.
The 2.0T comes from Alfa Romeo and is a new engine (2y from the Giulia )
It's not that new. That 2.0 AT8 Q4 has been available since 2016. What they should have given the Rubi, was a torque tuned version of the 2.9 V6.
I think throwing a tune on that little 2.0L is gonna be legit. I am interested in the diesel just because there is no V8 and the other engines are boring :(......
I'm sure Edelbrock and others will make a kit for the Pentastar. So boring is not exactly the word. I'd be concerned with off-idle torque with the 2.0. That's why I ordered the V6.
Does the 3.6 still has the same problem with removing the intake manifold to change the spark plugs?
Problem? How often do you change your spark plugs in a Pentastar?
the JL transmission might be the tipping point for me to trade in my JK for the JL. Otherwise I would be content to keep my JK.
My JL pros
-possibly the engine(s)
-8 speed transmission
-quicker throttle response
-soft top without ‘cross bar’
-soft top no zippers
-quieter soft top
-body color roll bar
-flat horizontal dash
-lighter/aerodynamic tweaks = better MPG
-real metal interior detail
-real hardware (not faux bolts) interior
-larger cup holders
-air vents for cooling under hood
-more slant in windshield (think rock damage)
-doors stay opened
-cabin is slightly longer
-doors remove easier/faster
-telescopic adjusting steering wheel
-bigger storage tub
My JL cons
-push button start
-auto start/stop
-the bumpers (front and back)
-front running lights on fender flare
-too much digital visual “noise” on dash
-rear camera
-no hard drive in radio to store music
Brian Murphy great info
You don’t like push start or reverse cameras? Yeah, I hated my new house when they made me hook it up to electricity and running water. They always have to ruin the good things in life like that.... 😜
Is this what you will be saying when the cars are all self-driving too? Google 'false equivalence'
The 4 Low in the Rubicon is a 4:1 ratio. not 84:1.
have you tried a trailer test light on my f150 that turns off the stop go it thinks it's towing a trailer
Has anyone heard an official announcement of the 3.0 diesel? If so is there a link, all I have found is the 2.0 and that’s for 2019.
The 2.0 can be ordered now, and the diesel will be introduced early next year. They already have it, it's the same engine as in the Ram 1500.
Is the diesel going to be available in the 2 door?
I heard no on the forum, too early to know tho.
Will the Diesel have the 6 speed manual?
So, the 2.0T will give us good gas mileage?
It's a brick on wheels. So the answer is no. But hey, a Rubi without doors and top down, is still one of the most fun cars you can drive. Who cares what the consumption is.
23 MPG however premium gas is recommended so that kinda defeats the savings in gas.
What about the axles and diffs ?
AXLES! where can I find a comparison (strength/size) between all the new JL, and JK axles?
WoOsKii 1 look up UA-cam channel wayalife
The new axles on the Rubi is a major upgrade over the JK axles. I have just gotten 37's for mine and all I've done so far is to get 4:56 gears. I'm sure it will work pretty well. I will definitely not touch them until they fail. My old JK needed axle mods right off the dealer lot, just to handle the large rubber.
Diesel! I have a 04 Rubicon
The new turbo engine runs 20 psi of boost sow I don’t think you can do much more with the stock engine
Yes you can. A lot of these engines that makes more power, runs a ton of boost. 35-40 psi is what most VAG, BMW and Merc cars run in the smaller turbo engines.
ABOlsen69X your comparing a BMW and Merc turbo to a fiat. Most people who have the new JL are seeing 18.5 pounds not 20 pounds claimed by Jeep According to fiat and the forums the turbo maxes out at 25 psi so yea it’s maxed out.Thanks for playing and have a good day.
Mr- T
Game's not over yet.
That engine is actually developed and used by Alfa Romeo, and it's a great engine. It's very much on par with both a BMW and Merc engine, and developers from both brands would be the first to tell you so. You can say what you like, but here in Europe, we know that while Alfa has had its share of issues with everything from rust and shitty paintjobs to electronics, their engines are among the best. and have been for decades. I own a JL 3.6 and I've driven the 2.0 AT8 engine in the JL, but also in Alfas, I know what they produce in stock form and have first hand experience. What I'm saying is that there's a lot on the table for tuning, more than 5-6 psi. How many cars have you driven with the 2.0 AT8 engine? From your comment, it sounds like all your experience is second hand, so why are you even trying to state your assumptions as fact? Also, just because FIAT was behind it, do you think that makes it worse? Ever heard of FPT? Do you consider the engine in an 812, Portofino or Levante poor quality engines? FIAT knows exactly what they are doing, and anybody in the industry with just half a grain of common sense and sound objectivity knows that.
Do you think the engine in a 2.0 liter Golf GTI is much better? It's not, it's just as good. But it produces 40 psi as it does things slightly different.
Thanks for playing yourself. Don't bother replying, I'm really not interested.
ABOlsen69X Great engines are none for longevity and tuning options.I think it’s a little to early to say it’s a great engine
I do not know of any of these engines running near 40 psi boost pressure on stock internals, turbo, or fueling. Yeah, you can build them to handle it but also how reliable will it be? I do not think anyone would use BMW, Alpha Romeo, or Fiat as an example for reliability.
0:28 that baby oil pan!
haa,we got a 2.8 diesel here in aus,yrs ago,..that stop start is bullshit,do you carry a spare starter,it doesnt offset the fuel save.
What's with the rumors that there will be no diesel??
There will be a diesel. It will be introduced early next year.
Excellent looking and performing vehicle-too bad it will spend much time in the shop!!!
What are you on about? My JK was never in the shop for anything other than normal service. I doubt my JL will be.
Can you have a manual with the ecodiesel?
Who knows. Probably
Full electric or hybrid? Full ev would be waay better.
chris pomplun full ev? Mall crawlin?
2L unlimited manual, fuel cosumption is crucial for me 🇿🇦
You want to drive a brick but fuel consumption is important? M'kay.
&&&,it gets 12lt 100,in a 4t truck,not bad eh.
Yes we wanted a diesel but not a V6 diesel ... of all the choices, man
What would you have wanted?
The electric version should be optional. The gasoline should be standard, then the diesel, then the highest trim the electric.
Diesel
Axles?
Yes. It has axles.
No Hemi V8?! I'll keep my JK
Sooo, your JK came with a Hemi V8? Okay then, thought not.
There's a ton of updates that warrant purchasing the JL.
I'm really looking forward to getting my Rubicon 2d with the V6 engine and much better axels and the 6 speed manual trans. I already have my 2 inch lift, 4.56 gears and 37 inch wheels. I know I'm not going to look back.
All im saying is why cant we just get a v8?
Miguel Cantu should have gone hemi. Not hybrid
Or like a more beefed up v6.
I want the hellcat engine
How about a Hellcat HEMI coupled with an electric motor for efficiency? That’s what I call the best of both worlds!
I Agree, your much better off with a diesel engines torque compared to a gas engines high hp. when off-roading matters
RPM is not what give efficiency, engine load is what matters... Low rpm with ur foot to the floor burns a tonne of fuel.
iVlogBuzz then what's the point of having more gears and reducing those rpm?
If your foots to the floor and your RPMs are low.... you’re doing something wrong or something is broken
Diesel baby!
You are driving a box down the road, they're not efficient, doesn't matter how many gears they add. Throwing 3:45 axle ratios in it though is ridiculous, I thought they were meant for driving offroad not being a fuel efficient Toyota Prius....because that's exactly the way they seem to be headed with all vehicles that have any sort of 4WD capability. Jeep really needs to part ways from Fiat before Fiat completely finished off the Jeep heritage. Electric Jeep makes me think of the little Barbie Power Wheels...if they keep going that's exactly what they're going to turn them into.
WE SMOKE DIESEL OUT HERE V8 SHIT HEMI WAY
5.7, 6.4 Hemi.
Too heavy for proper offroading.
Turn off my Jeep at a a red light? I don’t think so.
no 2 door diesel = no purchase
This engine is not reliable. It feels and sounds great but leaks oil before its first oil change.
Sounds like you may have had experience from a lemon, honestly. Jeeps may leak oil but brand new ones tend to stay dry until at least 100k miles. 😉 In all seriousness the 3.6L Pentastar has a great track record, sorry to hear your not-so-great experience! -Zach
hybrid will more than likely be useful only on the sahara. Eco diesel is a horrible engine, I'm sorry but america makes great v8s but they have no idea how to make a proper and reliable diesel engine. 2.0 turbo might be great mpg and better torque but with jeep's reliability, it'll most likely end up costing tons of money in repairs. Only the tried and tested pentastar seems to be the viable choice. Hope I'm wrong about the turbo though and it turns out to be an amazing engine.
Start stop is soooo worthless, not staying shut off is a deal breaker. Negligible return for a major nuisance.
Just take a minute to let that soak in... 400flb of torque mated to a 84:1 gear ratio.... holy shit! lol
Diesel? Don't believe it till it's on the showroom floor. When I bought my 2013Rubicon they told me if I wait it will be out in 2014.......ha ha
Diesel would be fine if it wasn't electronically controlled and didn't have all the emissions garbage on it. Today's diesels are far less reliable and a lot higher maintenance than they used to be, and way too expensive for the majority of the population...and with many that make really short trips and lots of stop and go driving a diesel is NOT the answer.
New jeep is awesome but so much $$$$$
Yes, but it has also received a serious update all over. You don't need to mess with axles in the Rubicon anymore when fitting 37's, it has better brakes and so forth. The interior is so nice, but still in a style that fits the Wrangler.
that engine start/stop sucks ass, even the Lambos have that shit now
JEEP. If you are listening...
We want a Wrangler w/ a 5.7 HEMI !!! They have been built aftermarket. And hats off for MOPAR having man sized balls and creating a HellCat and Demon Charger and Challenger why such an underpowered Wrangler? Why?
In the old days one of the most popular mods for our CJs was a Chevy 350 swap. WTF JEEP?
We had a production 360cid CJ5 and CJ7 back in the AMC days, why the castrated present day Wrangler?
SEE Advance Adapters for 5.7HEMI swap kits fellas...
Until then Jeep, how about growing a pair?
This video is useless without quoting mpg's.
bankaydin slightly better than the jl.
With that being said about for the Rubicon and the gearing 80421 there's an aftermarket transfer case adapter it's by Kuhn V they have one called the Goliath and the David where you can triple double or triple your racial you think that's the monster now with the diesel which you buy this adapters for that transmission and you know they're working on it right now that's going to be a bastard of a 4 by vehicle in a jeep with that being said I like to Jeeps I've always wanted one and I've always liked the Land Rover the Land Rover is the caviar of the two don't get me wrong both vehicles had a background in the military during the second World War for all you numbnuts out there who don't know you could take a Land Rover from the dealership pick a spot in the country and drive it right off without any modification that's how they're built My Buddy actually seen that many years ago it was a caravan a Land Rover drivers they just decided one day driving down the highway this looks like a good spot let's take it and they did that's how Land Rovers were built I would have a Land Rover and then it was Jeeps and that fact any of the Land Rovers and the Jeeps from the past Land Rover is bringing back the square boxes version that they had many years ago my buddy Road 1 in Africa when he was big game honey they're badass vehicles
If im paying 50k + for a jeep which is fucking awful i want an inline 6 turbo or a hemi 2 engine options 6 speed manual standard on both jeep get your shit together but people keep buying this garbage so they will never do it
its a fiat. NOPE
Diesel