So, many people have called me out for not understanding the intended message of "Brother Bear", I do agree that I misinterpreted and exaggerated the whole "humans are evil" idea, when the true lessons were compassion & perspective. This was a different time for me as a reviewer, when I let my anger get the best of my judgement. I would be so wrapped up in justifying a worst choice, that I'd go to extra lengths to defend my picks, and I do apologise for that greatly. However, I still think that "Brother Bear" can be preachy, it didn't need to have a scene where Kenai was staring at a cave painting of a human with a spear, while Koda said "Those people are really scary", that's overdoing the lesson of perspective. We already have enough scenes of Kenai experiencing human attacks first hand, that was all that was needed to teach him what it's like for bears to be hunted down, the cave painting scene drives this point too far. I will review Brother Bear in it's own stand alone video one day, to give it a better chance, because many of you have made some observations that I missed, and I'm sorry again for letting my anger replace my better reason. In the 2 years since I made this video, I've been aiming to grow and mature as a reviewer, so I can avoid mistakes like this again.
I can understand but Brother Bear is still one of my lesser favourite Disney films. If only the middle was as good as the beginning and end then it could have been phenomenal. Here are my favourite Disney films. Fantasia Pinocchio Alice In Wonderland 101 Dalmatians Mary Poppins Robin Hood The Rescuers The Fox and the Hound The Great Mouse Detective The Rescuers Down Under Beauty and the Beast Aladdin The Lion King The Hunchback of Notre Dame The Emperor's New Groove Lilo and Stitch Wreck It Ralph Big Hero 6 Zootopia (Zootropolis) As for my least favourites Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs The Wartime Era films Peter Pan The Aristocats The Black Cauldron Pocahontas Brother Bear Home On The Range Chicken Little Frozen Ralph Breaks the Internet
Hey Jambareeqi! What did you think of it's sequel and 101 Dalmations 2: Patch's London Adventure? I didn't care for Brother Bear 2, finding it to be a cookie-cutter romance story, but I loved 101D2, for it's charming story, loveable characters, hilarious comedy, and gorgeous animation!
I wouldn't say Brother Bear 2 is worse but it didn't fix any of the issues I had with the first so it does make it the more disappointing of the two films.
Brother Bear's message isn't humans are evil at all. It's message is saying both humans and Bears have misunderstandings. They even mention in the musical number Great Spirits "we are all the same"!
That's one of the messages for sure, but the film does also keep hammering in "Humans are scary" quite frequently, just so Kenai can look guilty, it felt really on the nose. Heck, most of the journey feels like a series of preachy guilt trips for Kenai.
Jambareeqi Gotta agree with Harry here. I never really got any humans are evil vibes from the message. It’s about Kenai deliberately going against his totem by performing a needless act out of pure hatred and having to be set on the right path. The spirits change him into a bear to force him to change his perspective, and that’s what the cave painting scene demonstrates. Kenai saw a painting of a bear attacking a man, but realized Koda saw the opposite. I think it’s at that moment Kenai started to realize the bear who killed Sitka night it have been the ruthless beast like he made it out to be in his mind, which turns out to be the case when Koda tells the story of how he got separated from his mom. The main messages I got were that you have to look through the eyes of others and aside from that, not let rage and hatred consume you, like Kenai did and then Denahi. I personally think this movie is criminally underrated but in the end we all differ in opinion. I can’t say mine is exactly a popular one |’D
@@Jambareeqi uhm no? Both species feared each other for their own reasons, and thats why it was so important for them to see the perspective of each other
@@AnaCarokart .....Fun Fact: According to the creator and director of "Brother Bear" Aaron Blaise, he said briefly in a livestream on his youtube channel that "Brother Bear" was symbolically about 9/11 since he couldn't make an actual 9/11 based animated film as he wanted (plus he's more entwined with nature paintings over city landscapes). The Bears were the Muslims and the Native American Hunters were the Americans who wish to seek revenge on the Muslims who killed their families. "Brother Bear" still doesn't work in this aspect since the film makes it clear that the Bears haven't done anything to the Native Americans. Because at the end of the film they show it was all just a misunderstanding where they have the mother bear in a flashback reenacting the situation from her perspective. He would have had to explain at the start of the film that the Native Americans had tales of their friends being killed by man-eating bears who tore them apart. Which would help explain why not all bears are bad, but some were which gave humans a reason to fear them. But then again that would undermine the whole "Bear is the symbol for love" concept in the Native Tribe, so this film is just at a lost with it's message.
I never understood the hate around Brother Bear. I love this film... Well, I really like it at least. It's one of the few Disney films without a bad guy, the scenery is beautiful, the characters are likeable (I even like the two moose). Oh well... Lost potential? Tell me about it, that's Atlantis to me: there is a very great film inside there, if only they gave it more time to expand its universe, breathe and appreciate the lost civilisation. I still like it but Atlantis was overall too fast. Aaaaaand Chicken Little is only at number 3... Oh boy, what terrifyingly bad movie awaits ahead?
Brother Bear should be at the 5 most underrated films of all time list. It's an epic, dramatic and beautiful story. Not to mention how underappreciated are the songs.
There is a terrible Hunchback of Notre Dame fan fiction called "Back to the Frollo" where an African-American woman (based on the writer) goes back in time to medieval Paris and falls in love with Frollo (for no reason). Oh and apparently, Frollo is a good guy and Esmeralda is evil. There are sex scenes between the main character and Frollo and shes brags on ENDLESSLY about how sexy Frollo is. At one point in the story, she tells Frollo about "the Spanish explorer Christopher Columbus", even though he was Italian. Did I mention that the author is a Geography teacher?
There was a woman called the Fan Fiction Critic and she reviewed the story, and I just couldn't believe how bad the story was. She just took the ALMIGHTY piss out of it, and I laughed and laughed and laughed! She even vomited when reading the sex scenes.
(Frollo was *terribly* written out of character! I admit I almost gagged multiple times. On the side note, Yes. I am one of the guilty fangirls with a crush on Frollo.)
Saying brother bear is bad is absolutely insane, the movie is beautiful, original, is very emotional, fun and talks about themes disney generally doesnt touch
Olivia M. Hey, no judging here! Even though Frozen's not my favorite, I still enjoy it, and I think there are plenty of people that still do too. You just have to know where to look.
lol I'd be more judgemental towards your liking of Hercules (I find hercules to be a very annoying movie) but still though I'm glad you can like it when I cant.
Samuel Nakai Right I used to like it but now I watch it now I realized how the town (well some) was harassed him and his dad was just a bad dad. The dad was practically emotionally abusing him! Like his dad is supposed to be the one to look up to. When I was little I used to laugh at that! Now I just feel guilty because of that.
Boba Fett Not really, they're among Disney's best known classics. Now, Disney movies that could be considered underrated are ones like The Rescuers Down Under, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and Bolt.
ejl423 Wreck It Ralph is my favorite too, as you can see by my channel icon! It's tied with the Little Mermaid because I couldn't choose between the two.
The darkness of Black Cauldron made more sense in its original book form, and the darkness of the original novel came from the fact that it was based on Welsh myths and legends. The Chronicles of Prydain, the original book series, is famous for its character development, so it would be nice if Disney remade the film so it would be closer to the original books.
@Emmy May with 95% on Rotten Tomatoes is underrated? I mean yes it's underrated because its not 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.But it's not painfully underrated
But Brother Bear's my favourite Disney film and I think Koda's adorable XD. I still really liked your take on the films though, from what I've watched of the video so far (I'm half way through but have to go off somewhere). Good job with it, and I'll watch the 5 best films when I've got time later on :).
I agree. I actually enjoyed Home on the Range. The comedy is great, there is heartwarming personality in this movie, and even the music is super-memorable.
Awesome review Jambareeqi! I'm REALLY surprised about Brother Bear :O I see your points on what's wrong with it but every time I watch it, I can't help but laugh along because believe it or not, Koda is actually my favorite character of the film. Fun And Fancy Free I can kind of agree with. To this day, I have a hard time sitting through it with a straight face. Granted, it's a slap of nostalgia in the face from my childhood but I understand your points on it. When it first came out, I was interested in Chicken Little. But....due to all the harshness, particularly with all the bully scenes, in a way it hits me hard as I was a victim of bullying when I was in school. So it's kind of hard to sit through those painful scenes for me personally. I totally get where you're going with The Black Cauldron. Not a lot of people are into that movie. I understand that it might be a little boring to some nowadays but as for me, I still get a kick out of it at times since I actually like Gurgi and the only good thing about the film was The Horned King. Now.....Home On The Range I can TOTALLY understand with. There are a TON of people I know that absolutely hate this movie! I like it maybe about 90% less than I did when I was a kid. My problem with it was Grace cause I can't stand her character! Slim was the only thing I really cared for about that whole movie Now for the good ones. THOND I 100% agree with. I had it on VHS but never saw it as a kid. But 2 yrs. ago when I finally got my own DVD copy and saw the whole thing from start to finish, I LOVE it to pieces! What can I say about Lilo and Stitch? Loved it as a kid, love it to this day. Lilo basically describes me in a nutshell XP. I've never seen Big Hero 6 so I can't say anything about that. I need a little more time with Fantasia. As a kid I only wanted to watch one short, The Sorcerer's Apprentice. But now glimpsing at some of the other shorts, I might think about buying my own copy and appreciating it a little more. Rescuers Down Under I only saw a little bit of and vaguely remember anything about it. I REALLY need to see this one day!
BTW, did you know there were plans for a third Rescuers movie, but was cancelled when Eva Gabor (the voice of Bianca) passed away? I myself can't help but wonder what we would have gotten out of it.
Despite its flaws, Brother Bear has always stood out to me on being the sole reason I was introduced to bears this way. Just seeing these creatures on the screen made my little autistic brain go *WILD!* Now, 14 years later, I’m a highly obsessed bear nerd who tries to help others understand these gorgeous creatures a little more each day. Sure the movie can be preachy, but it still holds such a big place in my heart. Also with Koda being annoying, he’s a bear cub. A *VERY* young bear cub. That is not even a year old brown bear cub, so yes, he’s gonna be a little annoying man😭
Fuck Zootopia. That shit was SJW propaganda, the characters were hideous, it didn't know what the hell it wanted to be. It's fucking depressing that people would consider it good.
True, the Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh tried to save it but, despite being good; sadly the damage was already done (it doesn´t help that Treasure Planet bombed)
13:04-13:57; PREACH, Jambareeqi! What you mentioned about how Disney often balances dark content with uplifting messages calls out one of THE primary reasons Chicken Little is such a pile of s**t!
So glad to see people bringing up Rescuers Down Under. As a kid I watched it on VHS quite often, and the original Rescuers film I rarely paid any attention to. The flight in the first act of the film is easily one of my favorite moments in film.
I never understood the praise for this movie. It's dull, unoriginal, unmemorable, the cast is just forgettable, and the villain is a shittier Mr Freeze.
My own: Top 5 Worst: 5. Dinosaur 4. The Aristocats 3. Home on the Range 2. The Black Cauldron 1. Chicken Little Top 5 Best: 5. Zootopia 4. Hunchback of Notre Dame 3. Beauty and the Beast 2. Fantasia 1. The Lion King
Wow, a Top 5 Disney Animation Studios list without Zootopia, Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, & The Lion King. That's bold. Still, it was interesting to hear a couple of the lesser-known/appreciated films to get praise when too often they fall in the others' shadows.
Awesome lists! I would have never expected The Rescuers Down Under to be your number one favorite. I enjoy it myself. You have actually inspired me to create a video on both Rescuers films. That will be coming out soon! The video got blocked worldwide..... Darn you YT Copyright!
I'm really glad to see Fantasia on this list (as a good movie, obviously). I feel so few people appreciate it, it also helps that not very many people grew up with this film compared to other, more well-known Disney films. It is *indeed* a masterpiece.
Have you seen the 75th anniversary edition, with a newly recorded soundtrack that, unlike the last attempt, is perfectly in synch with the visuals? It's stunning! I saw it at the Castro Theater in San Francisco while on vacation, and it sounded like there was a live orchestra behind the screen. For reasons I can't begin to understand, I've never seen either a Blu-ray (preferably offering an unedited version of the film as well) or a soundtrack recording of this edition for sale. For once, I want Disney to take my money (not ALL my money, please!), and they don't seem interested.
In defense of Brother Bear, the whole “Phil Collins singing over people talking” thing only happens once, and it’s when Kenai is telling Koda what happened to his mom, we already saw what happened to his mom so Kenai explaining it to us would be pointless
It's not meant to be exposition for the audience though, it's a confession scene, a dramatic moment that's supposed to centre on Kenai finding the courage to admit what he did, and Koda first learning the truth. It might only happen once, but it happens to a vital important moment for our lead characters, singing over a plot point like this was a poor creative decision in my opinion.
I also love The Rescuers Down Under, and the first one. But my only problem with Down Under is that it feels like that there's not enough of Bernard and Bianca, like they're not given enough screen time. Because they were always my favorite part of the film.
Yeah, I always felt this way too. It's weird cause I feel like both Rescuers films have flipped issues. The first one didn't have a lot of the action you'd think it have for a film called the Rescuers. It felt more like a Detective story, but I felt the first one had a lot more heart to it. The second one really upped the action and delivered on the adventurous story you'd expect from the idea, but Bernard and Miss Bianca did feel more like secondary which is a shame cause they're my favorite Disney characters
My list Worst 5.Chicken little 4.Chicken little 3.Chicken little 2.Chicken little 1.Chicken little Best 1.Emperors new grove 2.Emperors new grove 3.Emperors new grove 4.Emperors new grove 5.Emperors new grove I don’t watch much Disney animated films
I’m glad that you actually included Big Hero 6 in this list! It doesn’t get as much appreciation as it should, to me it’s an amazing, funny emotional movie. It’s definitely a different kind of Disney movie. It talks about real life problems and a relationship between two brothers which is refreshing to watch. And it’s a cool fun little movie.
Brother Bear is okay in my opinion.. Note: i like Brother Bear, I like Mickey and the beanstalk, I hate Chicken Little, I love the Black Cauldron, I really hate Home On The Range. Note 2: I love The Hunchback Of Notre Dame, I like Lilo and Stich, I like Big Hero 6, I LOVE fantasia,
My best: 5.Alice in Wonderland 4.Aladin 3.Pinnochio 2.Beauty and the Beast 1.The Hunchback of Notre Dame My worst: 5.Aristocats 4.Fun and Fancy Free 3.Brother Bear 2.Home on the Range 1.Chicken Little
DUDE!! Major kudos to you for not including any of the Disney renaissance movies in your top 5 best, not even once, and especially not as number 1. I mean, I guess you could count Hunchback a bit, but it was number 5 to boot! Very bold and unique. So glad to see people acknowledging these other Disney classics for once.
I love Big Hero 6. The use of technology, the dark tone, and a robotic stay puft marshmallow man doctor that serves as an actually good comic relief. It can be dark, it can be hopeful, and it can be funny. But it is a good movie.
Here's my own lists! ;) Worst: 5- Brother Bear 4- Fun and Fancy Free 3- Home on the Range 2- Dinosaur 1- Chicken Little Best: 5- Zootopia 4- Alice and Wonderland 3- The Little Mermaid 2- Beauty and the Beast 1- Fantasia
The Rescuers Down Under was one of my favorite films as a child. I saw it so many times and even when I watch it today, I still consider it to be an excellent film.
My favorites are 5: Treasure Planet 4: The Lion King 3: The Hunchback of Notre Dame 2: Zootopia 1: The Fox and the Hound My top 5 least favorite 5: The Aristocats 4: The Black Cauldron 3: Melody Time 2: Home on the Range 1: Chicken Little
@@davidc. Home on the range may be stupid and childish, but in my opinion it's not even close to as ugly and mean spirited as chicken little. I'd rather be bored to tears than feeling bad for my main protagonist
My top 5 best and worst movies from Disney My worst 5.Chicken little 4. Brother bear 3.The black cauldron 2. Fun and fancy free 1.Home on the range My Best 5.The jungle book 4.Lion king/beauty and the beast 3.Zootopia 2.Aladdin 1.Fantasia
Nice to see another fan of Rescuers Down Under. I feel like every moment was engaging and the animation of an Australian setting was really amazing, plus I feel like the human characters were muuuuuch better than the first one's imo. The soundtrack is also a masterpiece that conveys so much emotion that actually brings a tear to my eye everytime I hear it. Truly a great film I watch every year once if not more than once!
My top 5 Favorite animated Disney Films: #5 The Rescuers Down Under #4 The Huchback of Norte Dame #3 Zootopia #2 Lilo & Stitch #1 The Lion King and now my top 5 worst Disney animated films: #5 The Aristocats #4 Brother Bear #3 The Black Cauldron #2 Home on the Range #1 Chicken Little
my favourite/least favourite list: least favourite 5.brother bear 4.aristocats 3.black cauldron 2.home on the range 1.chicken little favourite 5.hunchback of notre dame 4.lion king 3.lilo and stitch 2.zootopia 1.aladdin
Rescuers Down Under at the top spot... I LOVE that movie but also recognize that is often overlooked underappreciated or recognized for the gem it is. So... To see you put it at the top of your list with a detailed explanation and visual examples was refreshing and IMHO necessary... Pay no mind to those who scoff... You gave great support for your argument sweeping cinematic, great casting and character development, and I agree with you.
I'm so happy about you're #1 pick for best! That opening flight scene was mind blowing, breath taking and beautiful! Something that wasn't even matched until the flight scenes in HTTYD.
FINALLY! Someone who loves the Rescuers Down Under! That opening Eagle Flight Scene blew me away as a kid and it was so beautiful. Instantly my favorite part of the whole movie.
Jambareeqi, while I do agree with you on The Black Cauldron. I wouldn't say it's worse than Chicken Little. The Black Cauldron has really good animation, a more serious environment which helps me to swallow in the mean spirited tone more so, and I can't say it has any bad morals. I can't think of many good things to say about Chicken Little, it's just a terrible movie that I dislike more and more as the years go by.
Jambareeqi, interesting question, after seeing Wreck it Ralph 2 and being disappointed with it, would you put it on the Bottom 5 or is it just a dishonorable mention?
You know, I'm starting to wonder whether RL Stine got inspired by the party during "Fun And Fancy Free". Maybe that's why he made his most famous monster a dummy rather than a doll. One of them even looks similar!
My top 5: 5: The Aristocats. 4: Lion King 2 (My guilty pleasure) 3: Zootopia 2: Lilo and Stitch 1: ALADDIN! Also, I love and would recommend Cat's don't dance.
So, many people have called me out for not understanding the intended message of "Brother Bear", I do agree that I misinterpreted and exaggerated the whole "humans are evil" idea, when the true lessons were compassion & perspective. This was a different time for me as a reviewer, when I let my anger get the best of my judgement. I would be so wrapped up in justifying a worst choice, that I'd go to extra lengths to defend my picks, and I do apologise for that greatly.
However, I still think that "Brother Bear" can be preachy, it didn't need to have a scene where Kenai was staring at a cave painting of a human with a spear, while Koda said "Those people are really scary", that's overdoing the lesson of perspective. We already have enough scenes of Kenai experiencing human attacks first hand, that was all that was needed to teach him what it's like for bears to be hunted down, the cave painting scene drives this point too far.
I will review Brother Bear in it's own stand alone video one day, to give it a better chance, because many of you have made some observations that I missed, and I'm sorry again for letting my anger replace my better reason. In the 2 years since I made this video, I've been aiming to grow and mature as a reviewer, so I can avoid mistakes like this again.
I can understand but Brother Bear is still one of my lesser favourite Disney films. If only the middle was as good as the beginning and end then it could have been phenomenal.
Here are my favourite Disney films.
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Alice In Wonderland
101 Dalmatians
Mary Poppins
Robin Hood
The Rescuers
The Fox and the Hound
The Great Mouse Detective
The Rescuers Down Under
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin
The Lion King
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
The Emperor's New Groove
Lilo and Stitch
Wreck It Ralph
Big Hero 6
Zootopia (Zootropolis)
As for my least favourites
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
The Wartime Era films
Peter Pan
The Aristocats
The Black Cauldron
Pocahontas
Brother Bear
Home On The Range
Chicken Little
Frozen
Ralph Breaks the Internet
Hey Jambareeqi! What did you think of it's sequel and 101 Dalmations 2: Patch's London Adventure? I didn't care for Brother Bear 2, finding it to be a cookie-cutter romance story, but I loved 101D2, for it's charming story, loveable characters, hilarious comedy, and gorgeous animation!
Can't wait for the review, then. Also, at least the first Brother Bear is not as bad as its sequel.
I wouldn't say Brother Bear 2 is worse but it didn't fix any of the issues I had with the first so it does make it the more disappointing of the two films.
@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 That, and the fact that sequels are just not as good as the original.
Brother Bear's message isn't humans are evil at all. It's message is saying both humans and Bears have misunderstandings. They even mention in the musical number Great Spirits "we are all the same"!
That's one of the messages for sure, but the film does also keep hammering in "Humans are scary" quite frequently, just so Kenai can look guilty, it felt really on the nose. Heck, most of the journey feels like a series of preachy guilt trips for Kenai.
It should of been Brother Bear 2
Jambareeqi Gotta agree with Harry here. I never really got any humans are evil vibes from the message. It’s about Kenai deliberately going against his totem by performing a needless act out of pure hatred and having to be set on the right path. The spirits change him into a bear to force him to change his perspective, and that’s what the cave painting scene demonstrates. Kenai saw a painting of a bear attacking a man, but realized Koda saw the opposite. I think it’s at that moment Kenai started to realize the bear who killed Sitka night it have been the ruthless beast like he made it out to be in his mind, which turns out to be the case when Koda tells the story of how he got separated from his mom. The main messages I got were that you have to look through the eyes of others and aside from that, not let rage and hatred consume you, like Kenai did and then Denahi.
I personally think this movie is criminally underrated but in the end we all differ in opinion. I can’t say mine is exactly a popular one |’D
@@Jambareeqi uhm no? Both species feared each other for their own reasons, and thats why it was so important for them to see the perspective of each other
@@AnaCarokart .....Fun Fact: According to the creator and director of "Brother Bear" Aaron Blaise, he said briefly in a livestream on his youtube channel that "Brother Bear" was symbolically about 9/11 since he couldn't make an actual 9/11 based animated film as he wanted (plus he's more entwined with nature paintings over city landscapes). The Bears were the Muslims and the Native American Hunters were the Americans who wish to seek revenge on the Muslims who killed their families.
"Brother Bear" still doesn't work in this aspect since the film makes it clear that the Bears haven't done anything to the Native Americans. Because at the end of the film they show it was all just a misunderstanding where they have the mother bear in a flashback reenacting the situation from her perspective.
He would have had to explain at the start of the film that the Native Americans had tales of their friends being killed by man-eating bears who tore them apart. Which would help explain why not all bears are bad, but some were which gave humans a reason to fear them.
But then again that would undermine the whole "Bear is the symbol for love" concept in the Native Tribe, so this film is just at a lost with it's message.
I'd actually find Brother Bear highly underrated
Same for me. I love it so much ❤❤❤
Yeah underratedly hated
same
Me too
Ikr I love this movie especially the 2nd one how does this guy not like it
I never understood the hate around Brother Bear. I love this film... Well, I really like it at least. It's one of the few Disney films without a bad guy, the scenery is beautiful, the characters are likeable (I even like the two moose). Oh well...
Lost potential? Tell me about it, that's Atlantis to me: there is a very great film inside there, if only they gave it more time to expand its universe, breathe and appreciate the lost civilisation. I still like it but Atlantis was overall too fast.
Aaaaaand Chicken Little is only at number 3... Oh boy, what terrifyingly bad movie awaits ahead?
All power to you if you like it mate, just not my cup of tea :)
Totally agree about Atlantis!
c0mpu73rguy I like Brother Bear. Not my favorite Disney movie, but it’s decent.
Couldnt agree more! His review was plain stupid and definitely not impartial
I grew up with this film I thought it was pretty good
Brother Bear should be at the 5 most underrated films of all time list. It's an epic, dramatic and beautiful story. Not to mention how underappreciated are the songs.
I always liked the way Brother Bear portrays the beautiful landscapes. And I’ve liked the historical accuracy of the human life.
Sorry but....
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WITH BLUE SKIES AHEAD, YES I'M ON MY WAAAY AND THERE'S NO WHERE ELSE I'D RATHER BEEEE
There is a terrible Hunchback of Notre Dame fan fiction called "Back to the Frollo" where an African-American woman (based on the writer) goes back in time to medieval Paris and falls in love with Frollo (for no reason). Oh and apparently, Frollo is a good guy and Esmeralda is evil. There are sex scenes between the main character and Frollo and shes brags on ENDLESSLY about how sexy Frollo is.
At one point in the story, she tells Frollo about "the Spanish explorer Christopher Columbus", even though he was Italian. Did I mention that the author is a Geography teacher?
Surprisingly, many folks have huge crushes on Frollo, so this fan-fiction doesn't sound too surprising xD
There was a woman called the Fan Fiction Critic and she reviewed the story, and I just couldn't believe how bad the story was. She just took the ALMIGHTY piss out of it, and I laughed and laughed and laughed! She even vomited when reading the sex scenes.
lmao
(Frollo was *terribly* written out of character! I admit I almost gagged multiple times.
On the side note, Yes. I am one of the guilty fangirls with a crush on Frollo.)
The worst Hunchback of Notre Damme fan fiction is called Hunchback of Notre Damme 2.
I really like chicken little but i think its mostly just nostalgia
Same with me
I really liked Chicken little
I then saw online that a lot of people hated it, so I watched it again. I still like it.
Despite the nostalgia I have with this movie, looking back at the movie, it's still practically impossible to ignore the problems.
That, and Barenaked Ladies.
How did they agree to write a song for this movie again?
Same
I love Brother Bear, tho.
And that's totally fine, all power to you :) I'm just being honest about my choices.
LavenderBeautydance I like all the movies on the worst list, I think meh on fun and fancy free though...
I love that movie too
Yaayyyy
I'm not alone!
Saying brother bear is bad is absolutely insane, the movie is beautiful, original, is very emotional, fun and talks about themes disney generally doesnt touch
My Top 5 Favorite Disney Films
5. Frozen (DON’T JUDGE ME)
4. Hercules
3. Aladdin
2. The Emperor’s New Groove
1. The Hunchback of Notre Dame :))
Olivia M. Hey, no judging here! Even though Frozen's not my favorite, I still enjoy it, and I think there are plenty of people that still do too. You just have to know where to look.
lol I'd be more judgemental towards your liking of Hercules (I find hercules to be a very annoying movie) but still though I'm glad you can like it when I cant.
Yay someone else who likes Frozen! Wooooot
I like Frozen too.
I know people who like Frozen.
My top 5 best Disney films
#5. The Lion King
#4. Moana
#3. Wreck It Ralph
#2. The Emperor’s New Groove
#1. The Hunchback Of Notre Dame
I remember watching Chicken Little as a kid.
...and I still don’t like it.
His dad was a prick. So was everyone in the town.
Samuel Nakai Right I used to like it but now I watch it now I realized how the town (well some) was harassed him and his dad was just a bad dad. The dad was practically emotionally abusing him! Like his dad is supposed to be the one to look up to. When I was little I used to laugh at that! Now I just feel guilty because of that.
I did somehow
My Top 5 Best:
5. Pinocchio
4. Aladdin
3. Tangled
2. The Jungle Book
1. Wreck-It Ralph
I can't decide what I would consider the worst.
Pinocchio and the jungle book are so underrated
Boba Fett Not really, they're among Disney's best known classics. Now, Disney movies that could be considered underrated are ones like The Rescuers Down Under, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, and Bolt.
I mean I really love Disney classics but they don’t get as much attention as they once did for example you don’t hear much about Fantasia antmore
ejl423 Wreck It Ralph is my favorite too, as you can see by my channel icon! It's tied with the Little Mermaid because I couldn't choose between the two.
I can relate. I haven’t seen all the Disney movies, but there were so many I’ve enjoyed
The darkness of Black Cauldron made more sense in its original book form, and the darkness of the original novel came from the fact that it was based on Welsh myths and legends. The Chronicles of Prydain, the original book series, is famous for its character development, so it would be nice if Disney remade the film so it would be closer to the original books.
I love the black cauldron
My best list :
-Alladin
-The Hunchback of the Notre Dame
-Wreck it Ralph
-Big Hero 6
-Nightmare before Christmas
@Emmy May with 95% on Rotten Tomatoes is underrated?
I mean yes it's underrated because its not 100% on Rotten Tomatoes.But it's not painfully underrated
But Brother Bear's my favourite Disney film and I think Koda's adorable XD. I still really liked your take on the films though, from what I've watched of the video so far (I'm half way through but have to go off somewhere). Good job with it, and I'll watch the 5 best films when I've got time later on :).
Took all of the words *right* out of my mouth! XD
Bruh what are you doing here!?😂😂😂
Bruh what are you doing here!?😂😂😂
I thought it was great as well
yeah it felt different but it was great
Hah a youtuber what do you doing here?
Home On The Range is a guilty pleasure for me😂 I loved it as a kid
I agree. I actually enjoyed Home on the Range. The comedy is great, there is heartwarming personality in this movie, and even the music is super-memorable.
My personal top five goes like this:
5: Zootopia
4: Beauty and the Beast
3: The Rescuers Down Under
2: The Hunchback of Notre Dame
1: Treasure Planet
Awesome review Jambareeqi!
I'm REALLY surprised about Brother Bear :O I see your points on what's wrong with it but every time I watch it, I can't help but laugh along because believe it or not, Koda is actually my favorite character of the film. Fun And Fancy Free I can kind of agree with. To this day, I have a hard time sitting through it with a straight face. Granted, it's a slap of nostalgia in the face from my childhood but I understand your points on it. When it first came out, I was interested in Chicken Little. But....due to all the harshness, particularly with all the bully scenes, in a way it hits me hard as I was a victim of bullying when I was in school. So it's kind of hard to sit through those painful scenes for me personally. I totally get where you're going with The Black Cauldron. Not a lot of people are into that movie. I understand that it might be a little boring to some nowadays but as for me, I still get a kick out of it at times since I actually like Gurgi and the only good thing about the film was The Horned King. Now.....Home On The Range I can TOTALLY understand with. There are a TON of people I know that absolutely hate this movie! I like it maybe about 90% less than I did when I was a kid. My problem with it was Grace cause I can't stand her character! Slim was the only thing I really cared for about that whole movie
Now for the good ones. THOND I 100% agree with. I had it on VHS but never saw it as a kid. But 2 yrs. ago when I finally got my own DVD copy and saw the whole thing from start to finish, I LOVE it to pieces! What can I say about Lilo and Stitch? Loved it as a kid, love it to this day. Lilo basically describes me in a nutshell XP. I've never seen Big Hero 6 so I can't say anything about that. I need a little more time with Fantasia. As a kid I only wanted to watch one short, The Sorcerer's Apprentice. But now glimpsing at some of the other shorts, I might think about buying my own copy and appreciating it a little more. Rescuers Down Under I only saw a little bit of and vaguely remember anything about it. I REALLY need to see this one day!
TLDR
Taylor Z. phantom strider likes the black cauldron
So glad to see that someone else loves both Brother Bear and Koda just like I do yet Kenai is my favorite character of the film. :)
Too long didn’t read
Crinsom UA-camr same
BTW, did you know there were plans for a third Rescuers movie, but was cancelled when Eva Gabor (the voice of Bianca) passed away? I myself can't help but wonder what we would have gotten out of it.
There's many cancelled Disney films I'd love to see. One in particular is "Mickey in Space", that sounds sick!
Jambareeqi I never heard of that one. It sounds awesome! I hope they resurrect it, but chances are they won't.
Unlikely, was pitched at DisneyToon before John Lasseter turned the studio into a factory for Planes & Tinkerbell movies.
Jambareeqi Shame! :-(
Awe nooo :(( Can't theu just find a new voice actor?
Despite its flaws, Brother Bear has always stood out to me on being the sole reason I was introduced to bears this way. Just seeing these creatures on the screen made my little autistic brain go *WILD!*
Now, 14 years later, I’m a highly obsessed bear nerd who tries to help others understand these gorgeous creatures a little more each day.
Sure the movie can be preachy, but it still holds such a big place in my heart.
Also with Koda being annoying, he’s a bear cub. A *VERY* young bear cub. That is not even a year old brown bear cub, so yes, he’s gonna be a little annoying man😭
Great Mouse Detective is my favorite
You are an educated individual.
Osmosis Jones
WardenDarkwingArtist I love that movie
WardenDarkwingArtist OMG I almost forgot yes that was bomb! 👌🏾
Sameeeee
My top 5 best Disney films are:
5. Beauty and the beauty,
4. Zootopia
3. Princess and the frog
2. LILO and Stitch
1. Aladdin.
As for my least favorites they r :
5. Brother bear
4. Fantasia 2000
3. Oliver and Company
2. Home on the range
1. Chicken little
Has grammar gone mad today?
Fuck Zootopia. That shit was SJW propaganda, the characters were hideous, it didn't know what the hell it wanted to be. It's fucking depressing that people would consider it good.
beauty and the beauty LOL
The Den, I liked it 😶
I absolutely despise Home on the Range. I think its soundtrack is quite decent, but it doesn't make up for all its awful flaws
albertoandroidain Plus considering it was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for the already struggling hand-drawn department.
True, the Princess and the Frog and Winnie the Pooh tried to save it but, despite being good; sadly the damage was already done (it doesn´t help that Treasure Planet bombed)
albertoandroidain wait that was a Disney film?
no its the best
My Top 5 Favorite Disney Movies:
5: Moana
4: Aladdin
3: Wreck-It Ralph
2: Mulan
1: The Lion King
Ethan Vo No it’s not, it’s Disney. Everyone knows that.
Agree with 2 and 1!
Someone finally said “Lion King ❤️”
Wreck-it-ralph oh my god
Brother bear in my opinion was really underrated and great same with home on the range
Same here but I like Home on the Range more.
Brother Bear is so underrated, it’s one of my favorite Disney movies.
I love lilo and stitch and big hero 6
I love lilo and stitch too😀
Yes this is very valid.
13:04-13:57; PREACH, Jambareeqi! What you mentioned about how Disney often balances dark content with uplifting messages calls out one of THE primary reasons Chicken Little is such a pile of s**t!
Chill dude...
1. Tarzan
2. Mulan
3. Lilo and stitch
4. Lion king
5. Dinosaur
Does anyone else remember The Tigger Movie?
Oh gosh my childhood~
That’s still my favorite Winnie the Pooh movie of all time.
1010ftw I do! My FAVORITE one though is "Pooh's Grand Adventure: Search for Christopher Robin".
I do
My top 5 Diseny movie's
5. Aladdin
4. Fantasia
3. The Nightmare before Christmas
2. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
1. Treasure Planet
Here’s my top 5:
1. The Lion King
2. Big Hero 6
3. Wreck It Ralph
4. Zootopia
5. Lilo and Stitch
So glad to see people bringing up Rescuers Down Under. As a kid I watched it on VHS quite often, and the original Rescuers film I rarely paid any attention to. The flight in the first act of the film is easily one of my favorite moments in film.
Thanks btw i am happy you like big hero 6
I never understood the praise for this movie. It's dull, unoriginal, unmemorable, the cast is just forgettable, and the villain is a shittier Mr Freeze.
The Den agreed. Big hero 6 is just that one movie you watch on a plane because it’s the only one available for free
@@Suslent This. It's nothing more than a poor rehash of Raimi's Spider-Man and How to Train Your Dragon, but with none of the nuance or charm.
@@TheDen-ec9xe who hurt you
@@wetfart9813 who hurt you
My top 5 disney movies
5.Tangled
4.Wall E
3.6 Big Heroes
2.Wreck it Ralph
1.Zootopia
Honorable mentions:Brave,Moana,Mulan,Incredibles
Zootopia was fucking garbage, Big Hero 6 was a dull and unoriginal rehash of Spiderman and How to Train Your Dragon.
And Wall-E is Pixar.
in my opinion i hate brave and i don't really like mulan but again just my opinion
I looooved Rescuers Down Under!!! It was my favorite movie as a kid and I really enjoyed it!
We have a VHS version of Mickey and the Beanstalk on it's own, and I remember there being no voice-over interruptions
Meleemario720 Maybe there exist different cuts.
I'd prefer that version tbh
My own:
Top 5 Worst:
5. Dinosaur
4. The Aristocats
3. Home on the Range
2. The Black Cauldron
1. Chicken Little
Top 5 Best:
5. Zootopia
4. Hunchback of Notre Dame
3. Beauty and the Beast
2. Fantasia
1. The Lion King
Dinosaur Was Fine In my opinion
What's wrong with the Aristocats? I thought it was a good movie. Ah well, that's probably just me
Wow, a Top 5 Disney Animation Studios list without Zootopia, Beauty and the Beast, The Little Mermaid, & The Lion King. That's bold. Still, it was interesting to hear a couple of the lesser-known/appreciated films to get praise when too often they fall in the others' shadows.
Awesome lists! I would have never expected The Rescuers Down Under to be your number one favorite. I enjoy it myself. You have actually inspired me to create a video on both Rescuers films. That will be coming out soon!
The video got blocked worldwide..... Darn you YT Copyright!
DisneyAnimation173 love your profile pic btw
I'm really glad to see Fantasia on this list (as a good movie, obviously). I feel so few people appreciate it, it also helps that not very many people grew up with this film compared to other, more well-known Disney films. It is *indeed* a masterpiece.
Have you seen the 75th anniversary edition, with a newly recorded soundtrack that, unlike the last attempt, is perfectly in synch with the visuals? It's stunning! I saw it at the Castro Theater in San Francisco while on vacation, and it sounded like there was a live orchestra behind the screen.
For reasons I can't begin to understand, I've never seen either a Blu-ray (preferably offering an unedited version of the film as well) or a soundtrack recording of this edition for sale. For once, I want Disney to take my money (not ALL my money, please!), and they don't seem interested.
Brother Bear is one of my favorite Disney movies
Lilo & Stitch will always be my favourite movie! ❤️
My top 5 best (I haven't seen hunchback or lion King sooooo)
5. Hercules (Shhh no hate please)
4. Mulan
3. Treasure Planet
2. Zootopia
1. Moana
Enflamed Sylveon I agree Hercules is a really good movie
I don't hate you for liking Hercules, because I saw that movie not too long ago and it was pretty good.
Enflamed Sylveon I highly recommend watching lion king, its a really great movie
Zootopia was fucking garbage. Moana is meh, I like the first act, but it goes bleah after she meets Maui.
Thats just like your opinion bleh.
In defense of Brother Bear, the whole “Phil Collins singing over people talking” thing only happens once, and it’s when Kenai is telling Koda what happened to his mom, we already saw what happened to his mom so Kenai explaining it to us would be pointless
It's not meant to be exposition for the audience though, it's a confession scene, a dramatic moment that's supposed to centre on Kenai finding the courage to admit what he did, and Koda first learning the truth. It might only happen once, but it happens to a vital important moment for our lead characters, singing over a plot point like this was a poor creative decision in my opinion.
I also love The Rescuers Down Under, and the first one. But my only problem with Down Under is that it feels like that there's not enough of Bernard and Bianca, like they're not given enough screen time. Because they were always my favorite part of the film.
Yeah, I always felt this way too. It's weird cause I feel like both Rescuers films have flipped issues. The first one didn't have a lot of the action you'd think it have for a film called the Rescuers. It felt more like a Detective story, but I felt the first one had a lot more heart to it.
The second one really upped the action and delivered on the adventurous story you'd expect from the idea, but Bernard and Miss Bianca did feel more like secondary which is a shame cause they're my favorite Disney characters
Despite Bad Animations in Movies…It can still be enjoyable Plus for Childhood
My list
Worst
5.Chicken little
4.Chicken little
3.Chicken little
2.Chicken little
1.Chicken little
Best
1.Emperors new grove
2.Emperors new grove
3.Emperors new grove
4.Emperors new grove
5.Emperors new grove
I don’t watch much Disney animated films
Not to mention that the rescuers down under is unbelievably hilarious
nobody:
everybody: I LOVE BROTHER BEARR!!!! WRONG!!! UNDERRATED!!
clearly not underrated since this entire comment section loves it
i 101% agree
Well dang. I actually teared up during that discussion about optimism vs. pessimism in Chicken Little.
Big Hero 6 also has Fall Out Boy in it so that's bonus points from me
I’m glad that you actually included Big Hero 6 in this list! It doesn’t get as much appreciation as it should, to me it’s an amazing, funny emotional movie. It’s definitely a different kind of Disney movie. It talks about real life problems and a relationship between two brothers which is refreshing to watch. And it’s a cool fun little movie.
Brother Bear is okay in my opinion..
Note: i like Brother Bear, I like Mickey and the beanstalk, I hate Chicken Little, I love the Black Cauldron, I really hate Home On The Range.
Note 2: I love The Hunchback Of Notre Dame, I like Lilo and Stich, I like Big Hero 6, I LOVE fantasia,
What about rescuers down under?
FINALLY someone likes Big Hero 6 as much as I do! Great lists!
My brain literally exploded when I saw the #1 best. Rescuers Down Under is criminally underrated!
My best:
1: Lion king
2: Mulan
3: Moana/Vaiana
4: The little Mermiad
5: Tangled
My best:
5.Alice in Wonderland
4.Aladin
3.Pinnochio
2.Beauty and the Beast
1.The Hunchback of Notre Dame
My worst:
5.Aristocats
4.Fun and Fancy Free
3.Brother Bear
2.Home on the Range
1.Chicken Little
Bad opinion
DUDE!! Major kudos to you for not including any of the Disney renaissance movies in your top 5 best, not even once, and especially not as number 1. I mean, I guess you could count Hunchback a bit, but it was number 5 to boot! Very bold and unique. So glad to see people acknowledging these other Disney classics for once.
Rescuers Down Under (his #1) is from the renaissance
JelloApocalypse: I HATE THE RESCUERS
Jamborequi: I LOVE THE RESCUERS
Me: The Lion King, you guys...
@@sethhw7691 Same, to an unhealthy extent -_-
JelloApocalype has VERY different opinión that REALLY triggers people.
Chicken little used to scare the living shit out of me when I was a kid, have no idea why but I was terrified beyond belief.
Don't hate me but I actually like chicken little
I don't hate anyone who has different movie tastes to me, that's basically elitism :) enjoy whatever you want!
I thought I was the only one!
Oh man! Same here!!! For me, it’s kind of a guilty pleasure. I recognize the flaws, but for some reason, I still really like it:)
Same here. I thought it was decent.
I liked it when i was a kid but now, not so much.
I LOVE Rescuers Down Under. I was so HAPPY to see this movie on the list.
I agree with u
My top 5:
1. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
2. Mulan
3. Treasure Planet
4. Meet the Robinsons
5. Tarzan/Atlantis
I love Big Hero 6. The use of technology, the dark tone, and a robotic stay puft marshmallow man doctor that serves as an actually good comic relief. It can be dark, it can be hopeful, and it can be funny. But it is a good movie.
My top 5 best Disney films
1)The Lion King
2)Moana
3)Brother Bear
4)Tangled
5)Aristocats
Someone who understand that brother bear is beautiful
Lilo- "My friends need to be punished"
Hey Jambareeqi you are almost at 6,000 subscribers:-) good job man.
Cheers!
My top 5 favourite Disney films:
5) Tarzan
4) Lilo and Stitch
3) Aladdin
2) The Lion King
1) The Emperor's New Groove
My Top 5 are:
5- Tangled
4-Princess and the Frog
3-The Little Mermaid
2 - Hercules
1 - Treasure Planet
I did not expect Rescuers Down Under on this list at all. I love that movie and agree on the points you made. Also, great reviews!
Brother Bear is so good! So underrated...jesus
THANKS FOR RESCUERS DOWN UNDER AT #1
Its my favorite disney movie ever. I subscribed
Here's my own lists! ;)
Worst:
5- Brother Bear
4- Fun and Fancy Free
3- Home on the Range
2- Dinosaur
1- Chicken Little
Best:
5- Zootopia
4- Alice and Wonderland
3- The Little Mermaid
2- Beauty and the Beast
1- Fantasia
No one trusts you
The Rescuers Down Under was one of my favorite films as a child. I saw it so many times and even when I watch it today, I still consider it to be an excellent film.
My favorites are
5: Treasure Planet
4: The Lion King
3: The Hunchback of Notre Dame
2: Zootopia
1: The Fox and the Hound
My top 5 least favorite
5: The Aristocats
4: The Black Cauldron
3: Melody Time
2: Home on the Range
1: Chicken Little
Glad to see some love to treasure planet.
No way you would rather watch home on the range over chicken little. No way
@@davidc. Home on the range may be stupid and childish, but in my opinion it's not even close to as ugly and mean spirited as chicken little. I'd rather be bored to tears than feeling bad for my main protagonist
Why The Aristocats
I actually do like Brother Bear, but you've made some good points about it. Great review, by the way. :)
My top 5 best and worst movies from Disney
My worst
5.Chicken little
4. Brother bear
3.The black cauldron
2. Fun and fancy free
1.Home on the range
My Best
5.The jungle book
4.Lion king/beauty and the beast
3.Zootopia
2.Aladdin
1.Fantasia
Nice to see another fan of Rescuers Down Under. I feel like every moment was engaging and the animation of an Australian setting was really amazing, plus I feel like the human characters were muuuuuch better than the first one's imo. The soundtrack is also a masterpiece that conveys so much emotion that actually brings a tear to my eye everytime I hear it. Truly a great film I watch every year once if not more than once!
Brother Bear is the only film that made me cry and it’ll always stay #1 in my heart
Big Hero 6 is my favorite disney movie. The void gives me a weird feeling and baymax's sacrifice made me cry. Press F to pay respect for Baymax 1.0
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My top 5 Favorite animated Disney Films: #5 The Rescuers Down Under #4 The Huchback of Norte Dame #3 Zootopia #2 Lilo & Stitch #1 The Lion King and now my top 5 worst Disney animated films: #5 The Aristocats #4 Brother Bear #3 The Black Cauldron #2 Home on the Range #1 Chicken Little
No
The Aristocats is a good movie, and my only answer to this comment is No.
my favourite/least favourite list:
least favourite
5.brother bear
4.aristocats
3.black cauldron
2.home on the range
1.chicken little
favourite
5.hunchback of notre dame
4.lion king
3.lilo and stitch
2.zootopia
1.aladdin
I love home on the range
Zootopia was fucking garbage
Just discovered your channel a few days ago love your content
*_Put up your dukes Mr. Fancy britches_*
New favorite non-swear
A 'Top 5' video? Awwwe, Jambareeqi...Christmas is weeks away. ☺
Also, big hiro 6 is technically a marvel movie, because hiro is a marvel character
Rescuers Down Under at the top spot... I LOVE that movie but also recognize that is often overlooked underappreciated or recognized for the gem it is. So... To see you put it at the top of your list with a detailed explanation and visual examples was refreshing and IMHO necessary... Pay no mind to those who scoff... You gave great support for your argument sweeping cinematic, great casting and character development, and I agree with you.
I have something to address.
I did not know Chicken Little was Disney
Yay! I've been waiting for you to do this!!! 😅
" killed in a firey explosion "
yeahhhh.....kiiiilllled.....- hides tadashi alive au fanfics -
Xd
I'm so happy about you're #1 pick for best! That opening flight scene was mind blowing, breath taking and beautiful! Something that wasn't even matched until the flight scenes in HTTYD.
My 5 best
5: Beauty and the beast
4: Mulan
3: dumbo
2: Lion King 2
1: (my fav) Lion King
Doom Play wild LION KING TWO IS SOOOOO UNDERRATED. All lion king movies are amazing
FINALLY! Someone who loves the Rescuers Down Under! That opening Eagle Flight Scene blew me away as a kid and it was so beautiful. Instantly my favorite part of the whole movie.
Jambareeqi, while I do agree with you on The Black Cauldron. I wouldn't say it's worse than Chicken Little. The Black Cauldron has really good animation, a more serious environment which helps me to swallow in the mean spirited tone more so, and I can't say it has any bad morals. I can't think of many good things to say about Chicken Little, it's just a terrible movie that I dislike more and more as the years go by.
Jambareeqi, interesting question, after seeing Wreck it Ralph 2 and being disappointed with it, would you put it on the Bottom 5 or is it just a dishonorable mention?
I would maybe consider putting it on the top 5 worst tbh
Would you even say you might prefer Brother Bear?
@@ultrairrelevantnobody1862 Actually, yes
my top 5 best Disney animated films:
5. Alice in Wonderland
4. Tangled
3. Aladdin
2. Frozen II
1. Fantasia
You know, I'm starting to wonder whether RL Stine got inspired by the party during "Fun And Fancy Free". Maybe that's why he made his most famous monster a dummy rather than a doll. One of them even looks similar!
My top 5: 5: The Aristocats. 4: Lion King 2 (My guilty pleasure) 3: Zootopia 2: Lilo and Stitch 1: ALADDIN!
Also, I love and would recommend Cat's don't dance.
Cats don't dance was Warner Bros. not Disney.
I know, that's why it isn't in my list. If it was Disney tho, it would be there.