Had an argument with my boss today about wearing gloves while using the drill press. I argued that NO it was definitely not safe and I wouldn't be wearing them, and instructed both my trainee's not to go near the machine if wearing gloves. Unfortunately my concerns fell on deaf ears, though I will fight it for the safety of myself and the people I am responsible for.
If I would wear gloves in my studies at young age, I would be kicked out of the class. It's dangerous like hell, also not putting long hair away, you will getting a scalp cutting and will horrible die. Don't do wear gloves on rotary tools.
I am just recovering from a badly infected thumb. I got stuck by a metal chip while operating a milling machine. If I report the injury to get medical care, it would be a safety violation for not wearing gloves. If I wear gloves while operating the milling machine, that is a safety violation. These safety rules are manipulated to cover the company's ass no matter what happens.
I remember working at a machine shop and my shirt was untucked. I grabbed a 7" grinder and began to grind down a weld at the end of the bench. Everything was going well until I pulled the grinder into the front of my t-shirt. The grinder flipped up and the grinding wheel proceeded to suck my shirt around the grinding wheel and leave a round red burn on my belly. I managed to make my shirt into a half-shirt and my boss who had new company shirts wouldn't give me a new one. I was humiliated for the rest of the day but I never forgot what happened and why. I should have sued my boss for poor training and no safety program. Anyways, It never happened again.
Long story short, if shit is moving, no gloves. If shit is stationary, gloves are cool. Mechanics can wear gloves most of the time, machinists shouldn’t. Flesh is soft. That’s a pro and a con. But the glove is tough and can resist pulling far more easier than skin. I’d rather be cut to the bone than have my whole hand pulled in and crushed, or worse.
How about gloves that protect against heat, particles and most cuts, but easily rupture if torn with a certain force or for a certain length? The inner layer would be flexible and soft, so it can be torn off, but also heat-resistant, and the outer layer would consist of small hard plates that overlap, but not interlock strongly - something like chain armor. However, if a blade with a sharp tip approached it sideways, it would be able to slip and cut under those plates, but that might be possible with usual protective gloves, too.
That's the issue, the glove being flexible. If it gets caught up then it can twist and pull your hand or fingers in, no matter what its made of. I would rather a cut or bruise that can heal rather than an amputated finger or hand.
Happend to me once. Drilling on a drill press and some of the metal curls grabbed my gloves. Lucky for me I was stronger then the gloves. . Never liked gloves before that moment now I straight out hate them. Same as safety shoes with a METAL toe gaurd. Plastic is much saver because plastic doens't bend and cut your toes off.
As a horse rider, I was specifically told to never wear steel toed boots for the exact reason you described. I may not be in the same class as you guys, but having a 1200lb animal step on you with full weight can cut your toes off without the help of a steel lopper. Many layers of heavy leather is what was recomended to me.
I always wear latex gloves or soft flex gloves.. is always when machine is move.. don't work on in it.. loto first.. I wear gloves all the time.. they have save me from cuts..
I was using an 215mm angle grinder 10 years ago with a wire brush on, Id taken the handle off for extra clearance (had to get it up into a wheel arch). A hot bit of wire came off, stuck in my leg, I flinched, the angle grinder kicked back, leapt out of my hands, snagged my left glove, tore it half off and proceeded to flay a big strip of skin off the inside of my left wrist as it wound up on the glove. Fortunately it was not a very powerful grinder, cant remember wattage now, but the glove in it and the flesh under it slowed it down a touch. First thought was to rip it off, but had just enough presence of mind to think "no it will speed up again!" and managed to turn it off before unwinding it. Cause? End of the week fatigue and rushing to finish. Always took regular breaks after that and learned to respect my tools and my fragile, mortal vessel.
I’ve just had a cloth/rubber glove ripped from my hand by a Dremel, which got tangled and stoped. I was so startled that I could’d move a single muscle for a whole minute. I just stayed there, frozen, half a glove in one hand, blocked humming Dremel in the other. It took a lot of will power to start breathing and moving again, and turn off the tool. Then I just took every gear off and got inside to calm down and search for videos about gloves and safety. Stay safe!
These are really good videos, never too old to learn. I had a plier tip break in my home shop and lodge in my face, missed my eye by a blonde one. It said "use eye protection" all over the tool. A short careless lapse can cost you.
Thank you, very interesting. I like to wear gloves working because I work with different kinds of steel, but since now in the press drill I'll have them off, better a scrach than a missing arm...
I operate a pillar drill every week. Yes I wear a glove on my left hand when doing so, metal swarf is damn hot - I don't want that stuck in me thank you. I have dry skin so it cuts easily and heals very slowly. I just keep my hand well away from the drill bit, further away than the length of any metal swarf and I 100% concentrate on what I am doing, I never look away without turning the drill off. I don't know what y'all are doing to make it so dangerous, I see others look away while drilling - they are the ones that should not wear gloves. Same for using a grinder, keeping my hands well away from the disc while wearing gloves.
Because even on lower power drill presses you can easily break every bone in your hand as your arm gets wrapped around the spindle. On larger ones it will catch and wrap your arm round the machine and either rip your arm off or suck you in the rest in the way and kill you. There are a ton of videos showing people dying on drill presses lathes and mills being sucked I'm from their clothes and gloves.
there are differnt gloves for different jobs gloves should be worn at all times in the event of. hazardous conditions wear the proper fitting gloves ppe should be worn at all times . tight fitting gloves not that of leather garden glove sgould be use sheet metal or glass golves should be used in place and be provided by all employers. At no time does osha state or suggest ppe removal but if gloves are a hazourdous condition seek proper tight fitting gloves that fit
You didn't explain why gloves are bad on grinders. I don't see how a properly housed grindstone can catch a glove. I do understand how sandpaper can, though.
Maybe I just got lucky, but I used a (small) bench grinder for the first time yesterday and was instructed to wear gloves, so I did. Extremely ill fitting ones at that. They made contact with the grinder several times, but didn’t drag my hand in. They simply started to eat a hole through the fabric which made an unpleasant burning smell. Mind you I was doing this for HOURS. Ironically the most dangerous aspect for me was NOT the gloves, but objects getting ripped out of my grip and flung at high speed. Luckily a steel beam behind the grinder caught them. That’s just my personal experience though.
happened to me a couple weeks ago when I was running a drill press at work. My glove got caught around the bit but luckily I wish able to rip the glove and free my hand.
Reading the comments I see where the opinions are about evenly split. Years ago we were eating lunch in our job trailer when our boss got a phone call from an apprentice who heard a news report of a fatal industrial accident. My boss called the office to learn that it was true. It involved a crew that was working at our job the day before. They were on a baseball field, changing light fixtures along the outfield fence. Our lineman had climbed the pole and was waiting for the ground crew to raise a new light fixture for him to mount on the cross arm. The ground crew was using a truck mounted capstan and a series of large pullies to winch the lights up the pole. The capstan was powered by a PTO driven by the truck motor. It required an apprentice to sit in the truck's cab to operate the PTO. A groundman wrapped a 1" rope around the capstan multiple times to raise and lower the lights. In doing so he needed to wrap the rope another time around the spinning capstan to complete the lift. In doing so his gloves became pinched between the spinning ropes on the capstan. The capstan sucked the worker into it and spun him. The top of his head hit the truck's massive bumper, cutting it off and instantly killed him. It was not good.
I personally have gotten my finger in a bench grinder thank God I wasn't wearing gloves because it just ground my nail to the meat and let me get loose, if I had a love on im pretty sure I would have lost alot more than a nail and alittle bit of meat on my index finger
@@e-curb incorrect. I wear nitrile gloves for work, and have had it caught in a wire wheel on the bench grinder, and it ABSOLUTELY CAN drag your hand in. The only saving grace with those is that they're easy to tear, unlike fabric, heavier-duty gloves, so the risk of de-gloving is considerably lower. However, not impossible; if the force of my entire hand hadn't been enough to completely stop the machine running (and it runs at hundreds or thousands of RPM), I almost definitely would have had most of the skin, fatty tissue and tendons torn off of my hand. Because a nitrile glove caught. Anything in an industrial environment can cause a hazard without warning if one isn't careful. Some lessons are hard learned, and we get lucky; others, not so much. And as a first-aid attendant at my job, I have to be even more aware of the potential hazards, and correct any dangerous behaviour in the shop environment. Again, a nitrile glove got caught, and pulled my hand in. It could've been SO much worse than what was basically mild rug-burn.
Hell no. Gloves, 100% of the time. The loose fitting leather gloves are for slinging material like wood, steel or garbage. Big leather gloves with huge cuffs are for welders. Any time you are working around machinery or doing anything at all when you need the dexterity of your fingers, or need to protect your hands without the loose fingertips or cuffs, I go with mechanics gloves. Mechanics gloves form a skin tight seal around your hands and move with your hands, offering no snag points for machines to grab on to. I refuse to do any kind of work without gloves on, but I also spend the money and get GOOD gloves that are skin tight and offer no loose bits that can get caught up in things. There is a glove for every type of situation and I firmly believe that gloves should be included as a part of standard PPE in ALL situations.
No, no it isnt safer to wear gloves. Recently watched a buddy get his fingers amputated because he wore gloves on a drillpress. If the metal is hot you are running the risk of breaking your bit, if you mean the metal shavings then boo hoo tough it out
Some of these glove rules are pretty bogus. Way too many times, I have cut myself from handling sharp edges of parts, causing time taken away to get a bandaid, and a finger that feels funny for the rest of the day. I wear gloves all the time.
This sort of safety is for idiots, seriously. Good luck with holding a hot piece of metal with bare hands while grinding it. Drill? It's spinning, fast, keep your hands off it, gloved or not...
You are right, analyzing this, the key is to wear gloves with a perfect fit, never loose gloves just like those cheap leather gloves, any loose piece of cloth will get caught in anything spinning fast...
Had an argument with my boss today about wearing gloves while using the drill press. I argued that NO it was definitely not safe and I wouldn't be wearing them, and instructed both my trainee's not to go near the machine if wearing gloves. Unfortunately my concerns fell on deaf ears, though I will fight it for the safety of myself and the people I am responsible for.
Does your company have a EHS manager? Any manufacturing or production environment needs someone to clarify what is safe and what is not.
If I would wear gloves in my studies at young age, I would be kicked out of the class. It's dangerous like hell, also not putting long hair away, you will getting a scalp cutting and will horrible die. Don't do wear gloves on rotary tools.
I am just recovering from a badly infected thumb. I got stuck by a metal chip while operating a milling machine. If I report the injury to get medical care, it would be a safety violation for not wearing gloves. If I wear gloves while operating the milling machine, that is a safety violation. These safety rules are manipulated to cover the company's ass no matter what happens.
True
Get clarification in writing. Contact OSHA.
Good advice. My wife and I were just discussing this.
I remember working at a machine shop and my shirt was untucked. I grabbed a 7" grinder and began to grind down a weld at the end of the bench. Everything was going well until I pulled the grinder into the front of my t-shirt. The grinder flipped up and the grinding wheel proceeded to suck my shirt around the grinding wheel and leave a round red burn on my belly. I managed to make my shirt into a half-shirt and my boss who had new company shirts wouldn't give me a new one. I was humiliated for the rest of the day but I never forgot what happened and why. I should have sued my boss for poor training and no safety program. Anyways, It never happened again.
You should have sued your boss for you being an idiot?? Man the world we live in.
When I first glanced at it I thought the title was: "Where's your gloves dingus?"
Long story short, if shit is moving, no gloves. If shit is stationary, gloves are cool. Mechanics can wear gloves most of the time, machinists shouldn’t. Flesh is soft. That’s a pro and a con. But the glove is tough and can resist pulling far more easier than skin. I’d rather be cut to the bone than have my whole hand pulled in and crushed, or worse.
How about gloves that protect against heat, particles and most cuts, but easily rupture if torn with a certain force or for a certain length? The inner layer would be flexible and soft, so it can be torn off, but also heat-resistant, and the outer layer would consist of small hard plates that overlap, but not interlock strongly - something like chain armor. However, if a blade with a sharp tip approached it sideways, it would be able to slip and cut under those plates, but that might be possible with usual protective gloves, too.
That's the issue, the glove being flexible. If it gets caught up then it can twist and pull your hand or fingers in, no matter what its made of. I would rather a cut or bruise that can heal rather than an amputated finger or hand.
I know the dangers of gloves in moving machinery. but I like to wear skin tight, thin surgical latex gloves when doing dirty workpiece. is that okay?
Tough line to walk between no gloves on machines, and getting micro-cuts and having cutting fluid leech into your bloodstream.
I use a simple rule. When things are rotating, the gloves go off. I rather risk getting cut than getting pulled into a machine.
Great video!
I've seen myself a glove can get caught in rotating bit and tear off fingers
But when grinding metal heats up? No 🧤?
Dip it in water to cool it.
Happend to me once.
Drilling on a drill press and some of the metal curls grabbed my gloves.
Lucky for me I was stronger then the gloves.
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Never liked gloves before that moment now I straight out hate them.
Same as safety shoes with a METAL toe gaurd.
Plastic is much saver because plastic doens't bend and cut your toes off.
Yeah, plastic will get crushed with your toes
I remember grabbing metal curls from a bridgeport mill. They sliced clean through my fingers. The gloves might have saved me some pain. :-)
As a horse rider, I was specifically told to never wear steel toed boots for the exact reason you described. I may not be in the same class as you guys, but having a 1200lb animal step on you with full weight can cut your toes off without the help of a steel lopper. Many layers of heavy leather is what was recomended to me.
I always wear latex gloves or soft flex gloves.. is always when machine is move.. don't work on in it.. loto first.. I wear gloves all the time.. they have save me from cuts..
Good video, thx.
What about belt grinders
No!
She was lucky she didn't wear Kevlar gloves but cheap cotton gloves that ripped apart.
Man I was cringing the whole time.
Why a safety video has a dislikes? Some people are just dumb... 😩
I think you have answered your quesiton
Hey, go easy on them, it's hard to hit that dislike button when you only have three fingers left.
Will leave it at 666 likes
"Hmm. I dunno if gloves would make a difference if you're just grabbing a stick... The machine was ON??? when the worker went for it?????"
I was using an 215mm angle grinder 10 years ago with a wire brush on, Id taken the handle off for extra clearance (had to get it up into a wheel arch). A hot bit of wire came off, stuck in my leg, I flinched, the angle grinder kicked back, leapt out of my hands, snagged my left glove, tore it half off and proceeded to flay a big strip of skin off the inside of my left wrist as it wound up on the glove.
Fortunately it was not a very powerful grinder, cant remember wattage now, but the glove in it and the flesh under it slowed it down a touch. First thought was to rip it off, but had just enough presence of mind to think "no it will speed up again!" and managed to turn it off before unwinding it.
Cause? End of the week fatigue and rushing to finish. Always took regular breaks after that and learned to respect my tools and my fragile, mortal vessel.
I didn’t know a bench grinder was a no go glove tool. Those parts get hot as fuck.
I’ve just had a cloth/rubber glove ripped from my hand by a Dremel, which got tangled and stoped. I was so startled that I could’d move a single muscle for a whole minute. I just stayed there, frozen, half a glove in one hand, blocked humming Dremel in the other. It took a lot of will power to start breathing and moving again, and turn off the tool. Then I just took every gear off and got inside to calm down and search for videos about gloves and safety. Stay safe!
These are really good videos, never too old to learn. I had a plier tip break in my home shop and lodge in my face, missed my eye by a blonde one. It said "use eye protection" all over the tool. A short careless lapse can cost you.
0:59 let’s take a test
Me: sure!
*fails every question*
Me: cool
Thank you, very interesting.
I like to wear gloves working because I work with different kinds of steel, but since now in the press drill I'll have them off, better a scrach than a missing arm...
table saws are another, if you handle rouch cut especially oak, I usually wear one glove- on the hand holding the board not near the blade
Wow, this is actually a very informative video.
I operate a pillar drill every week.
Yes I wear a glove on my left hand when doing so, metal swarf is damn hot - I don't want that stuck in me thank you.
I have dry skin so it cuts easily and heals very slowly.
I just keep my hand well away from the drill bit, further away than the length of any metal swarf and I 100% concentrate on what I am doing, I never look away without turning the drill off.
I don't know what y'all are doing to make it so dangerous, I see others look away while drilling - they are the ones that should not wear gloves.
Same for using a grinder, keeping my hands well away from the disc while wearing gloves.
Because even on lower power drill presses you can easily break every bone in your hand as your arm gets wrapped around the spindle.
On larger ones it will catch and wrap your arm round the machine and either rip your arm off or suck you in the rest in the way and kill you.
There are a ton of videos showing people dying on drill presses lathes and mills being sucked I'm from their clothes and gloves.
"Gloves? Yes or no?" - Video shows the hand wearing gloves or not
Take this information from the longtimers and professionals, folks! Always adhere to safety measures when around industrial equipment!
there are differnt gloves for different jobs gloves should be worn at all times in the event of. hazardous conditions wear the proper fitting gloves ppe should be worn at all times . tight fitting gloves not that of leather garden glove sgould be use sheet metal or glass golves should be used in place and be provided by all employers. At no time does osha state or suggest ppe removal but if gloves are a hazourdous condition seek proper tight fitting gloves that fit
You didn't explain why gloves are bad on grinders. I don't see how a properly housed grindstone can catch a glove. I do understand how sandpaper can, though.
At the pinch point, the gap between the stone and it's platform. It can grab your glove and there you go.
Maybe I just got lucky, but I used a (small) bench grinder for the first time yesterday and was instructed to wear gloves, so I did. Extremely ill fitting ones at that. They made contact with the grinder several times, but didn’t drag my hand in. They simply started to eat a hole through the fabric which made an unpleasant burning smell. Mind you I was doing this for HOURS. Ironically the most dangerous aspect for me was NOT the gloves, but objects getting ripped out of my grip and flung at high speed. Luckily a steel beam behind the grinder caught them. That’s just my personal experience though.
happened to me a couple weeks ago when I was running a drill press at work. My glove got caught around the bit but luckily I wish able to rip the glove and free my hand.
Damned ya do damned ya don’t. When using power equipment don’t. Definitely Don gloves when handling Chemicals
Reading the comments I see where the opinions are about evenly split.
Years ago we were eating lunch in our job trailer when our boss got a phone call from an apprentice who heard a news report of a fatal industrial accident. My boss called the office to learn that it was true. It involved a crew that was working at our job the day before. They were on a baseball field, changing light fixtures along the outfield fence.
Our lineman had climbed the pole and was waiting for the ground crew to raise a new light fixture for him to mount on the cross arm. The ground crew was using a truck mounted capstan and a series of large pullies to winch the lights up the pole. The capstan was powered by a PTO driven by the truck motor. It required an apprentice to sit in the truck's cab to operate the PTO.
A groundman wrapped a 1" rope around the capstan multiple times to raise and lower the lights. In doing so he needed to wrap the rope another time around the spinning capstan to complete the lift.
In doing so his gloves became pinched between the spinning ropes on the capstan. The capstan sucked the worker into it and spun him. The top of his head hit the truck's massive bumper, cutting it off and instantly killed him.
It was not good.
I personally have gotten my finger in a bench grinder thank God I wasn't wearing gloves because it just ground my nail to the meat and let me get loose, if I had a love on im pretty sure I would have lost alot more than a nail and alittle bit of meat on my index finger
Also usually during fisting, work gloves can be quite irritating.
Its eay,no gloves for fast/slow moving mechanical parts....
So here's my question:
are there gloves that don't pose a de-gloving risk, and if so, do they have major disadvantages?
I would think that vinyl or latex gloves can't be caught and pull your hand into the rotating tool
@@e-curb incorrect. I wear nitrile gloves for work, and have had it caught in a wire wheel on the bench grinder, and it ABSOLUTELY CAN drag your hand in. The only saving grace with those is that they're easy to tear, unlike fabric, heavier-duty gloves, so the risk of de-gloving is considerably lower. However, not impossible; if the force of my entire hand hadn't been enough to completely stop the machine running (and it runs at hundreds or thousands of RPM), I almost definitely would have had most of the skin, fatty tissue and tendons torn off of my hand.
Because a nitrile glove caught.
Anything in an industrial environment can cause a hazard without warning if one isn't careful. Some lessons are hard learned, and we get lucky; others, not so much. And as a first-aid attendant at my job, I have to be even more aware of the potential hazards, and correct any dangerous behaviour in the shop environment.
Again, a nitrile glove got caught, and pulled my hand in. It could've been SO much worse than what was basically mild rug-burn.
And also, when it's snot.
Hell no. Gloves, 100% of the time. The loose fitting leather gloves are for slinging material like wood, steel or garbage. Big leather gloves with huge cuffs are for welders. Any time you are working around machinery or doing anything at all when you need the dexterity of your fingers, or need to protect your hands without the loose fingertips or cuffs, I go with mechanics gloves. Mechanics gloves form a skin tight seal around your hands and move with your hands, offering no snag points for machines to grab on to. I refuse to do any kind of work without gloves on, but I also spend the money and get GOOD gloves that are skin tight and offer no loose bits that can get caught up in things. There is a glove for every type of situation and I firmly believe that gloves should be included as a part of standard PPE in ALL situations.
Isn't that still a item that can get caught and eventually pull your hand off like this video states
Thanks
Drilling metal using a drill press, it is safer using gloves. Without gloves, the heat on metal will burn your finger
Why are you holding metal with your hands, when it can be held with a vice or clamps, much safer and less risk of injury
If your steel is getting hot on a drill press you're doing it wrong.
No, no it isnt safer to wear gloves. Recently watched a buddy get his fingers amputated because he wore gloves on a drillpress. If the metal is hot you are running the risk of breaking your bit, if you mean the metal shavings then boo hoo tough it out
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Some of these glove rules are pretty bogus. Way too many times, I have cut myself from handling sharp edges of parts, causing time taken away to get a bandaid, and a finger that feels funny for the rest of the day. I wear gloves all the time.
I saw a buddy of mine get his fucking fingers ripped off by a drill press because he was wearing gloves. So NO not gloves all the time.
This sort of safety is for idiots, seriously. Good luck with holding a hot piece of metal with bare hands while grinding it. Drill? It's spinning, fast, keep your hands off it, gloved or not...
ardvark84 psssh
You are right, analyzing this, the key is to wear gloves with a perfect fit, never loose gloves just like those cheap leather gloves, any loose piece of cloth will get caught in anything spinning fast...
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the idiot is you. You hold it with a tool, not with your hands.
Speak again after actually doing something.