The price of fountain pen ink

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  • @hiltonprice2625
    @hiltonprice2625 Рік тому +58

    If you are travelling cartridges are much more convenient. Also you can refill the cartridges with an inexpensive syringe so you don’t need to purchase a converter.

    • @TheMeanderingGentleman
      @TheMeanderingGentleman  Рік тому +4

      For that I would need the syringe:)

    • @Schein1307
      @Schein1307 Рік тому +12

      @@TheMeanderingGentleman which is very cheap, even a medical syringe with a blunt (or grinded) tip

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 Рік тому +1

      I don't find cartridges any more convenient when traveling. I take a piston fill pen. Five of them, actually. I also find refilling cartridges pretty useless. Really, why? You can buy cartridges already filled. Even Iroshizuku inks now come in cartridges. Or just buy a converter, if the pen doesn't come with one, or buy a piston fill or vac fill pen.

    • @erics8757
      @erics8757 Рік тому +11

      @@jamesaritchie1 refilling cartridges is hardly useless.you may prefer not to do it, but you save a TON of money doing it, especially if you go through a lot of cartridges.

  • @cjmillsnun
    @cjmillsnun 10 місяців тому +19

    Not only is it cheaper to use bottled ink, but it is better for the environment too. Cartridges are designed to be one use disposible plastic. Something that doesn't biodegrade. Bottled ink is normally in a glass bottle. Glass is recyclable into more glass.

  • @drakegrizzell4258
    @drakegrizzell4258 Рік тому +24

    Always good to see someone testing the common perception for themselves to see if it is accurate. Excellent video!

  • @matthewross1756
    @matthewross1756 Рік тому +13

    However, you can usually get far more color options from the various companies in bottles than cartridges.

  • @stevehuffman7453
    @stevehuffman7453 Рік тому +13

    Some pens come with a converter. Jinhao, for example, ALWAYS come with a converter. All can use a long or short "international" cartridge (which cost considerably less than Parker and other proprietary cartridges, by the way.) Most Jinhao pens (the 599 and others with a cut-out ink window are obvious exceptions) can be eye dropper fed, as well, tho you need to check the barrel for leakage at the finial first, and you MIGHT need to apply a little silicon grease to the barrel/section threads, or fit a rubber or silicon "O" ring onto the section. Also, refill when they start to burp ink from your hand heating and expanding the air in the barrel. FYI: The metal barrel Jinhao pens (X450; X750; and 95, for example) don't heat the air in the barrel as fast from the heat from your hand, as the plastic pens, like the 992's, X159, and others.)
    Some pens on the market today can ONLY use bottled ink. The HERO 329 and 616,, which have a Parler-esq Aerometric Fill and piston or vacuum fill, and pens designed to be eye dropper fill pens. Vintage lever fill pens (my personal favorite fill system) are also bottled ink only.
    As others have mentioned, you can clean and refill cartridges using an inexpensive syringe, with whatever ink brand and color ink you want.
    When traveling or at the job-site (other than a desk job) cartridges ARE more convenient. The main disadvantage with cartridges is a VERY limited choice of colors, and from my experience, NONE are waterproof, with very few being water resistant, if that is an issue for you.
    With bottled ink, you can get waterproof fountain pen inks in several colors. I like and use primarily the Noodlers Bulletproof/Archival inks. Tho some (but not all) deAtramantis inks are quite water resistant -- after they have dried for 30 to 45 minutes.
    The five Diamine inks I've tried are not water resistant at all, at all, and wash off the paper, even after drying a full 24 hours or longer. ☹️👎
    BTW, NEVER use "India Ink"/Dip Pen Ink, or ink pad inks in a fountain pen! At a minimum they will clog it, and MAY be (likely will be) near impossible to clean so the pen works properly. They MAY also be too acidic or otherwise chemically incompatible with the barrel, section, and/or nib/feed housing, or even a plastic (as opposed to an Ebonite) feed.

  • @taccora
    @taccora Рік тому +9

    You need converters or (if you like a larger ink capacity), you need an empty cartridge and a syringe. Either way, bottled inks are usually more cost effect, but not always convenient if you run out of ink while you're out and about.

    • @TheMeanderingGentleman
      @TheMeanderingGentleman  Рік тому +5

      Yes, what I usually do is have a backup pen.

    • @taccora
      @taccora Рік тому +1

      @@TheMeanderingGentleman Me too. I keep at least 8 pens inked at a time.

  • @LEVELGAZANOW
    @LEVELGAZANOW 4 місяці тому +2

    Great.video however, I don’t purchase ink bottles because of price or the environment. Frankly, filling and cleaning a fountain pen is simply therapeutic for me. Similar to polishing dress shoes, shaving with a DE razor or cleaning my weapons, I simply enjoy the process.

  • @illustratedjournal
    @illustratedjournal Рік тому +4

    Excellent. These are questions that trouble us fountain pen aficionados. Thanks!

  • @geoffberteau2847
    @geoffberteau2847 Рік тому +9

    Dude the volume is written on the bottle

  • @HyTeddyBear
    @HyTeddyBear Рік тому +13

    Diamine inks are the most affordable inks in small bottles ( 30ml for about 5€ and 10€ for 80 ml)
    you can refill the cartriges with a syringe to get extra value
    there are 1L pelikan bottle inks for 35€ in black and blue
    j. herbin 100ml and 500 ml bottles also are really affordable
    for black inks you can go for cheaper , for blue i'd get something nice if i'm tired of royal blue and then you can spend more to get one fancy ink to scribble and doodle like lamy azurite

    • @TheMeanderingGentleman
      @TheMeanderingGentleman  Рік тому

      Thanks for the comment!

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 Рік тому +1

      Where in the world can you find J. Herbin in such massive bottles?

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun 10 місяців тому

      @@jamesaritchie1 I'd like to know that too. Normally I find Herbin in 50ml bottles.

    • @Owner.of.omniverse
      @Owner.of.omniverse 2 місяці тому

      in india cheapest ink cost 0.4$ for 60 ml .
      and good inks cost aroung 1$ for 60 ml

  • @misleadingstudios
    @misleadingstudios Рік тому +6

    Good job man, keep up the good content

  • @channelsixtynine069
    @channelsixtynine069 Рік тому +2

    With our Australian play-money, EVERYTHING is expensive. : / It is generally the case with consumables, that packaging is the most expensive part of the product, not the contents. This goes for construction glues and paints the same would apply to inks, anything that requires a package to contain the product.

  • @asakurachaos
    @asakurachaos Рік тому +1

    personally I love the Pilot inks like yama-budo and asa-gao but they are pretty expensive but the cheapest ink I have is from Daiso black ink that I got from Japan for 100 yen for 180 ml. I wasn't a big fountain pen lover back then so I only got 2 black ink bottles but still I use it the most because it is water-resistant(or waterproof) . As well if I know I will travel I try to fill out my pens if I want to take them so I will be sure I will have enough ink since they have their own cartridges . So a syringe is a excellent edition to have so the things won't get messy

  • @eleanor.shadow
    @eleanor.shadow Рік тому +5

    This is why I prefer demonstrator pens like the Pilot Custom Heritage 92 - no need for a converter, much larger ink capacity and I can see how much ink I’ve got left just by looking, since it’s transparent 😅

  • @PalaceMidasMusic
    @PalaceMidasMusic Рік тому +2

    That's very interesting if not very surprising to know. Thanks. I use a Parker fountain pen, I'm wondering are the convertors compatible with any fountain pen?

    • @TheMeanderingGentleman
      @TheMeanderingGentleman  Рік тому +1

      Usually each brand has their own kind of converter.

    • @eleanor.shadow
      @eleanor.shadow Рік тому +3

      Most brands will take what’s called a universal cartridge converter, but other brands (such as Parker) will have proprietary converters. Basically, if your pen takes universal cartridges, it’ll take a universal converter :)

    • @autisticdrone.
      @autisticdrone. Рік тому +3

      Try refilling your old cartridges if you don’t have ink converter.

  • @tonyshaw13
    @tonyshaw13 10 місяців тому

    it is even better when the fountain pen you have, has a converter included with it

  • @terratenientesalgo2511
    @terratenientesalgo2511 2 місяці тому

    in my case i still find the bottle more useful because i dont write a lot so i need to be able to choose how much ink i will put in my pen or put it back in the bottle if i know i will be away for a while so it doesnt dry, cartriges won´t give me that freedom so i stick with having a desk full of bottles.

  • @gekonhonza
    @gekonhonza 28 днів тому

    What about using used parker cartridges which can hold more than converter, and with some king of siringe filled them up. Then you even don't need the converter and have a more volume of ink in the pen. Surely the cartridge will worn out with the repeated use and there is little more chance of the leak. :)

  • @thaisfrota
    @thaisfrota Рік тому +1

    btw, where you're buying the pelikan ink for 2 euros? In Portugal the bottle costs between 6 to 9 euros a bottle 😵‍💫

  • @Tailslol
    @Tailslol 9 місяців тому

    Serenity blue is generally cheaper in cartridge pack,the color is generally deeper too strangely.

  • @NightPhoenixPress
    @NightPhoenixPress 9 місяців тому

    Yoooo! Is that the silver Jinhao fine point I see?

  • @MitchellJBridges
    @MitchellJBridges 2 місяці тому

    It all depends on what ink you bought. Id say noohlers x feather is the best value and it works on the cheapest paper.

  • @jacobling2119
    @jacobling2119 Рік тому +2

    You can certainly refill cartridges with blunt tip syringe. Then you don't need to buy a converter, and the syringe can serve multiple different pens, and is useful in pen cleaning.
    Your thumb nail certainly looks click-baity.

    • @TheMeanderingGentleman
      @TheMeanderingGentleman  Рік тому

      Sorry to disappoint.

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 Рік тому

      You can, but there is no reason to do so.

    • @strider04
      @strider04 9 місяців тому

      ​@jamesaritchie1, that's not true. There are some good reasons to refill cartridges. 1 Some pens can't take converters, and 2 cartridges also tend to hold more ink than converters

  • @Johan-vk5yd
    @Johan-vk5yd 10 місяців тому

    Charming video!

  • @fsdfsdgvdfsgsdfg7075
    @fsdfsdgvdfsgsdfg7075 4 місяці тому

    Excellent video.

  • @Cortesevasive
    @Cortesevasive Рік тому +4

    You can literally google cartridge capacities and bottle capacities.

    • @r.vincenta.9678
      @r.vincenta.9678 Рік тому +2

      Yes but that won't be as fun. Plus, personally validating the numbers you see online can be a worthy endeavor.

    • @Cortesevasive
      @Cortesevasive Рік тому

      @@r.vincenta.9678 thats fun.
      It is interesting.
      What inks do you use brother ?

    • @TheMeanderingGentleman
      @TheMeanderingGentleman  Рік тому +4

      Yes but I wanted to make my own measurements (and they were almost the same as online).

    • @jamesaritchie1
      @jamesaritchie1 Рік тому

      @@r.vincenta.9678 Not if you time is worth anything at all.

  • @kunalroy1421
    @kunalroy1421 Рік тому +1

    In India We Get the Convertors for Parker for Free with The Pen...

  • @raaga1994
    @raaga1994 20 днів тому

    The point of using ink bottle is to reduce use of plastic. Using cartridge is almost worse than ball pen refills. Be conservative.

  • @MuhammadRaza-kq8vm
    @MuhammadRaza-kq8vm 6 місяців тому

    It's Price please

  • @keithallen97
    @keithallen97 Рік тому

    Wow , never need to refill the converter in just a day 😮

  • @duygubayram5485
    @duygubayram5485 10 місяців тому +1

    Well the expensive inks I buy are like 25 euros not 5 😅

  • @tanishmahi967
    @tanishmahi967 Місяць тому

    You could use a syringe