Carl Benjamin - Woke, Liberalism, and God

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  • Опубліковано 27 кві 2024
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  • @klolwut
    @klolwut 2 місяці тому +323

    I would 100% watch a fallout show where a white Ryan gosling attempts to find the last remaining white person in America 2085

    • @RichardEnglander
      @RichardEnglander 2 місяці тому +24

      It would be interesting to see a future where they had post apocalypse racial segregation and how those different communities were fairing.😂

    • @hattmancock6396
      @hattmancock6396 2 місяці тому +1

      @@RichardEnglanderI think we know 😂

    • @martinvho
      @martinvho 2 місяці тому +1

      I'd happily watch him do so as a Trauma Sevant type of Ken. :D

    • @SonOfMorning
      @SonOfMorning 2 місяці тому +14

      They would be Amish.

    • @toodlepop
      @toodlepop 2 місяці тому +1

      to be honest, i'd be even MORE likely to watch it if it was a white ryan gosling in black face.

  • @margueritespringer3687
    @margueritespringer3687 Місяць тому +27

    I'm a Registered Nurse and Midwife and have seen how a few feminists over the past five decades have altered and destroyed the beautiful practice of nursing.

    • @MDS31415
      @MDS31415 10 днів тому

      What are the top 3 changes you could share? Thanks

  • @jules2545
    @jules2545 2 місяці тому +342

    Carl, you are wrong on the Christianity front. We still have a thriving Christian community in this country. People have seen the woke religious nature of the CofE, deserted it and set up their own churches.

    • @TrivialCoincidence
      @TrivialCoincidence 2 місяці тому +32

      Correct. I know a fair few ex-Church in Wales ministers who've just set up independent churches affiliated with other Anglican groups.

    • @actuallyKriminell
      @actuallyKriminell 2 місяці тому +73

      Typical christian response. Just run away from the problems to "greener pastures" elsewhere. Meanwhile heresy and apostasy dominates the UK

    • @jules2545
      @jules2545 2 місяці тому +5

      @@actuallyKriminell Lol!

    • @illbeyourmonster1959
      @illbeyourmonster1959 2 місяці тому +15

      Seeing it is not the same as actually stepping up and fighting back against it taking over.

    • @illbeyourmonster1959
      @illbeyourmonster1959 2 місяці тому +11

      @@actuallyKriminell Exactly. Evil corrupts Adam and Eve so God kicks them out of the garden and lets the evil that corrupted them stay and flourish.

  • @jonlannister345
    @jonlannister345 2 місяці тому +106

    I think we have to consider at this point that the people right at the top aren't stupid and they know exactly what they are doing.

    • @MrDanno2
      @MrDanno2 2 місяці тому +6

      The follow through on your point are they 1.evil/malicious 2.incompetent 3.uncaring and indifferent?

    • @jonlannister345
      @jonlannister345 2 місяці тому +9

      @@MrDanno2 Depends on the individual. The biggest key to understanding 'conspiracy theory' is just understanding human nature and how individuals, even isolated, in specific situations are overwhelmingly likely to respond in certain ways.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 2 місяці тому

      Fantastic interview on the Duran with, I think his name is Jim Dyer, he's been writing about this cabal that wants a oneworld li-beral auth-oritar*Ian gove-rnment for 20 years. Highly recommend a viewing.

    • @justinthacker3144
      @justinthacker3144 2 місяці тому +5

      @@MrDanno2 All three.

    • @rocketpig1914
      @rocketpig1914 2 місяці тому +11

      Nah. To conclude that everyone in charge is stupid is itself stupid and shows an incomplete understanding of the forces upon them, and the lack of power any individual has in present times.

  • @Tehz1359
    @Tehz1359 2 місяці тому +26

    Nick asked a good question at the beginning. Yes, the nazis were used as a justification to make being right wing in the western world basically illegal. It took time, but it happened. Which is weird at first because many of the people who fought the nazis directly were right wing essentially. Your average American or British soldier wasn't exactly an antifa-progressive for example, regular citizens for that matter too. So what we take from this shouldn't be to defend the nazis necessarily. But we don't need to base our whole worldview on just opposing things based on whether the nazis believed it or not. They believed a lot of things, some wacky things, and some true things. The sky doesn't suddenly stop being blue if the nazis also believed it was blue. We need to try our hardest to see reality as it is.

    • @insomnolant6043
      @insomnolant6043 Місяць тому

      Nazism is the only defense against Communism. That was the whole reason for its existence, why it arose in the first place. If you can't understand that, you won't understand why the Communists outlawed it and anything resembling it after it was defeated.

    • @monnimonnickendam7289
      @monnimonnickendam7289 Місяць тому

      Oh you simple fool lol. Nazis were socialists, hence left wing, has nothing to do with being right wing. Left wing crazies will use any flawed argument 😉

    • @onerimeuse
      @onerimeuse 28 днів тому

      It probably doesn't help that in the modern context it tends the parties on the right, the nationalist parties, are the ones that neo nazis and white supremacists gravitate to, ya know? And then here in the states we had dpsht mctrumpface straight up not denouncing their support, because he was/is so desperate to get votes that he doesn't have the cajones to say "nope, we don't want you". Fix that problem, and you'd fix that perception.

    • @orejeremic923
      @orejeremic923 23 дні тому

      Nazi stand for "National SOCIALIST German Workers' Party ". I would argue that they were left extreme, that we just learn in school bulshit... Socialist in USSR had poor vs rich, nazi had white vs jews (same idea, one side all good group, and other are all evil group).

    • @MetaVita
      @MetaVita 11 днів тому

      Hitler was a socialist.

  • @theodoremccarthy4438
    @theodoremccarthy4438 2 місяці тому +84

    The epitaph of religion has been written multiple times in history. Cynicism and irreligion are common symptoms of declining cultures, and often herald the collapse of social institutions and ultimately a resurgence of religion. Christian scripture records how the time of Christ saw the state of Judea described as “a faithless generation” with religious and civil leadership seen as increasingly morally bankrupt. This would then give rise to Christianity, a religious tradition which dominated the west through the Middle Ages. Renaissance era Humanism, itself motivated in part by corruption of church authorities, gave way to the reformation. The sheltered sophisticates of wealthy and secure societies seem to frequently come to the conclusion they have grown beyond religion, only to then face social decay and foreign domination by groups still motivated by the primal passions that faith channels into pro-social behavior.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 2 місяці тому +7

      Yeah, nothing new under the sun. It is strange how people who read Spengler doesn't understand such things.

    • @scalesofleviathan9697
      @scalesofleviathan9697 2 місяці тому +26

      Religion will never go away because it plays an irreplaceable social role. The current age is just as religious as it's ever been, although many will never admit it. In practice, however, this is undeniable. The post-Enlightenment so-called secular liberalism of the current age has mainly re-skinned Christianity as its own. It preaches original sin (whiteness, racism, colonialism), redemption (anti-racism and reparations), fruits of the Holy Spirit (diversity, equity, and inclusion), has a clergy (university professors and institutional media), and preaches doomsday prophecy (climate "science"). Its adherents earnestly believe the faith to the point of dismissing any evidence contrary to it as unholy and sacrilege (right wing propaganda), no matter how sound said evidence is. It gives many people meaning and fulfillment in life- they really believe they are saving the world through political activism.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 2 місяці тому

      @@scalesofleviathan9697 It is meaning or distraction?

    • @CovocNexus
      @CovocNexus 2 місяці тому

      What they don't understand is that evolution seems to want religion. For some reason, the more atheistic and materialistic thinking one has, the less likely they are to reproduce, or reproduce in large quantities. So yeah, sure, right now you have a lot of non-religious people. But guess what? Those people are enjoying themselves right now and not reproducing. You know who is reproducing at higher rates? The super religious. So, what you end up with more and more religious children. Look what happened to Israel. The super orthodox are having a lot of children, while the rest of the population is living their liberal fantasies. Guess what? Before you know it, in a couple of generations, the orthodox would have doubled their populations while the secularists declined. This would be more obvious if it wasn't for state schooling that tries it's best to repress religion. Imagine a world where the majority of children went to their own private/religious schools and not state schools.

    • @theunknownatheist3815
      @theunknownatheist3815 2 місяці тому

      Bullshit. Religion has been on the decline for decades, and things were fine and getting better. The trouble we see now has NOTHING to do with decline in religion- it’s due to woke bad actors purposefully trying to tear down society for a communist/Marxist revolution.
      This idea that things are bad because not enough Jebus is nothing but propaganda and lies.
      PS- all the major players at the forefront of fighting woke are atheists. James Lindsay, Douglas Murray, Andrew Murray, Joe Rogan, and many others.
      Stop the BS propaganda for your faith. It’s obnoxious

  • @notloki3377
    @notloki3377 2 місяці тому +53

    Carl Benjamin is my favorite english nationalist

    • @AndersonWave17
      @AndersonWave17 2 місяці тому +5

      I thought he was a Civic nationalist? Which is to say not a nationalist at all (George Bush jr nationalism)

    • @jeremycarnes1656
      @jeremycarnes1656 2 місяці тому

      ​@AndersonWave17 yes, he should join the teaming hordes of white nationalists, all 20000 of you worldwide. If anything says "victory" it's a movement borne out of the shittiest aspects of the progressive manure pile that's been largely rejected by humanity. Hey, how's Iron March doing these days?

    • @87stevan
      @87stevan 2 місяці тому +1

      Carl is not even English. He has a black grandfather apparently. Lmao.

    • @notloki3377
      @notloki3377 Місяць тому +1

      @@87stevan ok so he's packin meat and still loves his country. sounds like a total chad.

    • @notloki3377
      @notloki3377 Місяць тому

      @Yeeeap18 Nationalism = identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

  • @dylanl7073
    @dylanl7073 2 місяці тому +128

    I’m closer to Nick than Carl on religion. I don’t think Carl reads how fraught with failing and trying again life is for believers.
    We aren’t complete. We are works in progress. We just accept that burden.

    • @alastairthegreat2887
      @alastairthegreat2887 2 місяці тому +2

      So you get nothing out of being religious?

    • @Noplayster13
      @Noplayster13 2 місяці тому +42

      @@alastairthegreat2887 He didn’t say that at all. What’s with the weird strawman?

    • @robosoldier11
      @robosoldier11 2 місяці тому +23

      @@alastairthegreat2887 You get conviction, the ability to grow via introspection and adherence to a moral ethics code that helps guide one to do good and be a good person. Thats what Christianity does. Which is why advocates for it are probably way happier then say a staunch atheist.

    • @Valehass
      @Valehass 2 місяці тому +12

      I became a Christian partly because of all the religions I looked into it was the only one that accounted for sinful behaviour. We are not and can never be prefect and that pursuit is the source of most of the worlds woes.

    • @mryellow6918
      @mryellow6918 2 місяці тому +2

      @@robosoldier11 you mean you can gaslight yourself? because you cant self motivate?

  • @zaoific
    @zaoific 2 місяці тому +63

    I think Carl might have religiosity backwards. I don't go to church, read my Bible and pray because I'm passionate about God. I'm passionate about God because I go to church, read my Bible, and pray. Like I didn't love my wife before I started spending a lot of time with her. If I had said I don't want to be around you a lot because that'd be faking being in love with you, I'd probably never have fallen in love with her.

    • @johnwheeler3071
      @johnwheeler3071 2 місяці тому +4

      I do take your point about going to Church, praying and reading your bible helping a person to become more passionate about God.
      However are you not concerned that the core beliefs of Christianity are under threat from people like Jordan Peterson? Could the Church destroy itself from within if new members were only intellectuals with a passion for discussing narrative and no passion for the core beliefs of Christianity.

    • @recongraves
      @recongraves Місяць тому +1

      ​@@johnwheeler3071great take we need to evolve they'll keep taking out kids with new technology. We need to tec up fast and fight. Thes people don't speak for us. Could we talk more about this.....?

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      The core propositions of christianity are still false though, however much you are in love with your version of "god".

    • @recongraves
      @recongraves Місяць тому +1

      @@lil-al 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a joke you thought you did something there with those words. Poor thing you'll get there one day

    • @marktyler3381
      @marktyler3381 Місяць тому

      Pikkiwokki will reward us with a pig roast and as many coconuts as we can carry.

  • @xokelis0015
    @xokelis0015 Місяць тому +8

    I don't know what books Carl has read on the subject, but my understanding from my readings is that Classical Liberals didn't mean "equality" to mean that we all have the same talents, skills, and abilities to achieve the same outcomes, it meant that no arbitrary barriers will be placed in your way of achieving your own pursuits, so long as you don't infringe on anyone else's natural rights.
    Rousseau sounds like a proto communist, not a Classical Liberal. See this is why the US worked so well for the first 124 years. People understood what equality meant, and were willing to fight to preserve that meaning. They also understood that the moocher masses should not be allowed to vote, but at some point they allowed the socialists to vote and it all started going down hill form there.
    @20:00 No Carl, equality of opportunity does not mean that a wealthy person has to start at the same place as a poor person. That wealth was built by his ancestors and hes fully entitled to it. Again, equality of opportunity means NO ARBITRARY BARRIERS to one's pursuits. I swear the more people engage in "talk" the more they brainwash themselves. The professional socialist "talkers" (all they do is talk, and not produce anything of value) eventually wear you down in their domain of expertise until they convince someone as bright and knowledgeable and well read as Carl Benjamin to reject the founding principles of "The West". Its hard to believe, but here we are...

    • @emjay9688
      @emjay9688 Місяць тому +1

      Unfortunately you see it everywhere these days, left and right.

    • @xokelis0015
      @xokelis0015 Місяць тому

      ​@@emjay9688
      Well and contained within that sentence you wrote is another reason why we keep losing. Imprecise definitions.
      I'm not picking on you, I've been guilty of the same thing many times, but what does "right" and "left" mean? As far as I know, its some made up terms the French used back during their first republic based on where the two factions that were pro self government sat in the French parlament (the right or left side), right after they had guillotined their royalty. It has no precise meaning. I've been called a right winger when I say government it too bloated and spends too much money for unconstitutional socialist programs, and then a left winger when I say that drugs should be decriminalized because government does not have the right to tell you what you can put in your body.
      The same goes for "conservatism". Back in Thomas Jefferson's days the "conservatives" were monarchists. Today, they are, for the most part traditionalist, mostly Christian, Classical Liberals, that would likely go totalitarian with certain Christian beliefs if you let them, like when they tried to ban birth control.

  • @MasterSwo-MK
    @MasterSwo-MK 2 місяці тому +116

    Failed?
    Not how I see it.
    I see all this as how Liberalism was always going to end up, we just didn't know it until to late.

    • @KRGruner
      @KRGruner 2 місяці тому +18

      Nonsense. What we need is to return to liberalism. The mistake was going away from it and embracing progressivism (or downright Marxism) instead.

    • @____________________519
      @____________________519 2 місяці тому +29

      @@KRGruner The narrow end of the wedge regarding "liberalism" happened 60 years ago, which is about the time that academics started lumping Rousseau in with Locke and Hobbes, and calling their (contradictory) ideas "liberalism". Carl has argued many times that "liberalism has nothing to resist communism" but doesn't recognize that Rousseau's "social contract" isn't liberal, and is the basis for how socialists/communists/Marxists co-opted "liberalism". Locke and Rousseau were within a generation of each other, and people at that time recognized their views as opposed to one another. Voltaire was the most famous critic of Rousseau, and was a strong believer in Natural Rights. People have been creating qualifiers for this distinction since the 60's, using terms like "classical liberal" and "English liberal" to make this distinction, while subliminally buying into it via adding a modifer.
      Rousseau was not liberal, social contracts have never existed, and once people realize this will they finally accept that what conservatives are trying to conserve is actually "real" liberalism. With these caveats added I completely agree with your point.

    • @TheHammerofDissidence
      @TheHammerofDissidence 2 місяці тому +21

      @@KRGruner go away James Lindsay.

    • @martinhd28v1
      @martinhd28v1 2 місяці тому

      @@____________________519 I agree with much of what you said but disagree that conservatives want to conserve real liberalism. I think Michael Malice is more correct in saying "conservatives are just progressives driving the speed limit". Guaranteed, in one generation conservatives will be defending most of the nonsense liberals are currently espousing. They'll rightfully call modern liberals socialists and criticize their plans to continuously expand the welfare state but they have no interest in dismantling what's already been created should they gain power. Quite the contrary, they will defend the existing system but will try and convince the public that they can manage it better and more efficiently.
      The only people wanting to conserve real liberalism are libertarians.

    • @annatardlordofderps9181
      @annatardlordofderps9181 2 місяці тому

      ​@@KRGruner Nah. The issue is Liberalism. Due to a number of pretty basic false presumptions within liberalism is why Liberalism collapsing into itself isn't a bug, but a feature.
      Let's take the presumed rationality of people within liberalism. The liberal simply presumes the rational person won't want to be a drug zombie subsisting off of benefits/welfare. Yet in many places not only is this more common than ever, the liberals fund it thinking extra support will get the drug-addled on the 'right track'. This can easily lead us to John Rawls who would go even a step further and argue against punishment or imprisonment these sorts(along with essentially all criminals) as the 'sensible' person would pursue such activity, therefore the drug zombie is closer to a madman than a criminal willfully harming others.
      Progressives are simply another step past Rawls who agree the homeless drug addicts are not criminals but are actually the victims of society. So them pulling a knife to rob you because they're jonesing for another hit - isn't their fault. It's actually your fault for living a decent life, which (somehow) resulted in this deluded person reliant on drugs and crime.
      This is because liberalism contains no moral guidance and very sparse limiting factors within it. So the only response liberalism has to itself is to consume itself like an oroborous where the society becomes burdened by so many laws that the people are no longer free as a means of addressing only some of liberalisms own incoherence.
      So the liberal will actively argue that it's a persons right to become a drug zombie, but will turn around and impose taxes and fees on the non drug-zombies for causing the drug zombies. So now we need to set designated times and locations where it's allowable to abuse hard drugs, funded and provided by the liberal government.
      The problem is liberalism.

  • @NQISSteve
    @NQISSteve 2 місяці тому +59

    Hey everyone good to see people like Nick having a great guy like Carl on.

  • @billgaits3717
    @billgaits3717 2 місяці тому +110

    Carl is an inspiration. He dodges so many pitfalls, balances so many concerns, approaches the world empirically while avoiding the dogmas of empiricism. Nick is much better dressed though. Now you just need to invest in a tie.

    • @frankberger7035
      @frankberger7035 2 місяці тому +14

      Carl has his blindspots, and unlike many of us, he refuses for long periods of time to adress them. But maybe his process just takes longer.

    • @billgaits3717
      @billgaits3717 2 місяці тому +6

      @@frankberger7035 Like his penchant for wearing short-sleeved shirts when he's not even at the beach?

    • @Deathbytroll
      @Deathbytroll 2 місяці тому +8

      @@billgaits3717like letting go of a lot of liberal presumptions and the solutions. He’s getting there, though.

    • @MrOnay-px1jx
      @MrOnay-px1jx 2 місяці тому +3

      Dodges so many pitfalls like destroying ukip and getting trolled off the internet?

    • @rudolfsteyr5228
      @rudolfsteyr5228 2 місяці тому +7

      @@MrOnay-px1jx He was? ohh you mean his youtube channel? i mean he seems more active there now.

  • @MatthewJohn14.6
    @MatthewJohn14.6 Місяць тому +6

    Ephesians 6:12
    “For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      No, we do not. Paul's angels and demons do not exist. We are battiling very much flesh and blood.

    • @MatthewJohn14.6
      @MatthewJohn14.6 Місяць тому +1

      @@lil-al Whatever sin, whatever guilty 'pleasure' keeps you from God it is not worth it. Hell is real and your on your way... Only Jesus can save you. Praying for you!

    • @sadwingsraging3044
      @sadwingsraging3044 Місяць тому

      ​@@lil-almilitant atheist snowflakes are so cringe.

    • @MatthewJohn14.6
      @MatthewJohn14.6 Місяць тому

      @@lil-al stupid is as stupid does

  • @bauerhans-christian5616
    @bauerhans-christian5616 Місяць тому +4

    In the state of nature, the individual DOES have property. It owns everything it can conquer, defend and hold...for as long as it can do so.

  • @rudi5139
    @rudi5139 2 місяці тому +31

    „Egalitarianism, in every form and shape, is incompatible with the idea of private property. Private property implies exclusivity, inequality, and difference.“

    • @117johnpar
      @117johnpar 2 місяці тому

      No. Its called a shotgun. Thats the perfect form of egalitarian private property.

    • @darkgardener9577
      @darkgardener9577 2 місяці тому

      @@117johnpar Buhh das WACIST!!!

    • @dragons_red
      @dragons_red 2 місяці тому +2

      I think you are misdefining Egalitarianism in this statement.

    • @darkgardener9577
      @darkgardener9577 2 місяці тому +1

      @@dragons_red How? It's not a dictionary definition but the dictionary definition applied to reality.

  • @I-Dophler
    @I-Dophler 2 місяці тому +11

    The year 2016 marked a pivotal moment in global politics with the rise of significant events such as the election of Donald Trump as President of the United States and the Brexit referendum in the United Kingdom. While these events sparked polarizing debates and uncertainties, for many, they also symbolized a glimmer of hope for change and a reevaluation of established norms and systems.

  • @muddledmess
    @muddledmess Місяць тому +12

    It's funny how you can tell how long someone has been aware of Carl by how they refer to him. I've been watching him since 2015 and I always call him Sargon. My brother didn't wake up from the Left's narrative until covid hit in 2020, and whenever he brings him up, he refers to him as Carl Benjamin.
    I really admire him for how much he's grown as a content creator, like forming the Lotus Eaters, but I still do miss 'This Week In Stupid'.

    • @Amfortas
      @Amfortas Місяць тому +3

      TWIS was great

    • @adamcummings20
      @adamcummings20 Місяць тому +2

      He was my introduction to politics when I was 15-16, then I stopped really caring about politics, and now I see him again still going at it. He didn't use to be this right wing, which is interesting.

    • @slavicsandvich5967
      @slavicsandvich5967 Місяць тому +1

      TWIS was effectively passed off to Vee, as mentioned by Sargon himself.

    • @SarcasticPlotRecaps
      @SarcasticPlotRecaps Місяць тому +1

      I'm somewhere in the middle but just use Carl now cos he's clearly matured into a far different person from the OG Sargon Gamergate persona.

    • @nicholasdaley7041
      @nicholasdaley7041 Місяць тому +1

      But , he is Sargon.

  • @jonlannister345
    @jonlannister345 2 місяці тому +36

    The wishy washy not-quite-Christian clergy in England is a bit demoralizing. It's difficult to know where to turn when you can't find a church on solid foundations.

    • @superboygamer4034
      @superboygamer4034 2 місяці тому +5

      Orthodoxy perhaps?

    • @slickmechanical
      @slickmechanical 2 місяці тому +7

      Catholicism if you can find a Latin Mass community. The priests who offer the old mass are super solid

    • @superboygamer4034
      @superboygamer4034 2 місяці тому +1

      @@slickmechanical wdym old Mass? What happened? Why did the Catholics change Mass? I am not knowledgable about this.

    • @scroogemcduckismyspiritanimal
      @scroogemcduckismyspiritanimal 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@@superboygamer4034 the Mass is said in the vernacular now instead of Latin. The prayers were changed somewhat but the general outline and form of Mass is still the same

    • @slickmechanical
      @slickmechanical 2 місяці тому +4

      @superboygamer4034 they changed the mass to basically appeal to protestants in the vein of Christian unity, which never happened because if the way you worship isn't important, then it isn't worth believing. It was a massive boomer cope. The ones who believed enough to keep the old faith and old ways are solid.
      Orthodoxy is for legit Greeks and Eastern Europeans, and everyone else who does it is a Byzantine larper

  • @SuperLumianaire
    @SuperLumianaire 2 місяці тому +115

    The more I found out about the universe, the more it cemented my Christian beliefs in God.

    • @martinvho
      @martinvho 2 місяці тому +9

      For me not especially in God, but I find that religious people keep to more baseline things like kindness, friendship, mom and dad households... In this insanity I now long for that clarity.

    • @SuperLumianaire
      @SuperLumianaire 2 місяці тому +5

      @@martinvho that is a good start, but we are only flesh and blood.

    • @angelsackson
      @angelsackson 2 місяці тому +8

      Really? Made me the opposite, realised how incredible the universe was compared to our tiny minds worshipping someone who if he is real, watches us suffer everyday, watched kids become victims to Pakistani gangs… Yeah, proper enlightening stuff this god gobbling…

    • @SuperLumianaire
      @SuperLumianaire 2 місяці тому +14

      @@angelsackson you fail to understand free will. If everything is easy, there is no effort and no beauty. If you feel so incensed upon the wrong doings of others, do something about it. Me? I just try to do what I can where I am. God forcing us to behave every minute of every day negates choice. If the right thing is enforced upon us where we have no choice than doing the right thing is done with no passion or choice involved, making the action meaningless.
      If altruism is forced, it loses it's value.

    • @JakeQRook
      @JakeQRook 2 місяці тому +6

      I hope you’re right… I listen to Carl debate all the time with friends and fellow UA-camrs Dev and Arch about morality and life. With each podcast and discussion it becomes more and more clear that the reason why these supremely intelligent individuals can’t agree on a suitable reason or origin for morality without a divine source is because there isn’t one.

  • @liammccann8763
    @liammccann8763 2 місяці тому +61

    The Catholic Archdiocese of Southwark is home to 175 parishes covering south London and Kent /Medway. At Easter we welcomed 500 converts into the Faith. France also seen a record number of converts this year. It is also worth noting that there are twice as many Catholics on earth now as there were in 1970. In hoc signo vinces ✝️.

    • @roobs4245
      @roobs4245 2 місяці тому +9

      Numbers mean nothing without context. Are those people BEHAVING Christian, that is the only relevant metric.

    • @liammccann8763
      @liammccann8763 2 місяці тому +13

      @@roobs4245 if by numbers you refer to 8,000 Catholics defeating 36,000 Ottomans at Lepanto, in 1571.......
      In relation to behaviour, morality, only the Almighty can see into hearts. In hoc signo vinces ✝️.

    • @ningen7736
      @ningen7736 2 місяці тому +8

      And they’re all in Africa or South America, not Europe.

    • @roobs4245
      @roobs4245 2 місяці тому +9

      @@liammccann8763 I can objectively see people's actions. And I will judge those actions. Easy, non-confrontational tolerance is what ruined the church.

    • @liammccann8763
      @liammccann8763 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@roobs4245whom may I ask is the measure of your moral standards? Ne Timeas ✝️.

  • @adamc436
    @adamc436 2 місяці тому +6

    James Lindsay should have dialogued with Carl instead of soaking his trousers and blocking him. Carl’s simply read more, interfaced with people who disagree with him, and has a more salient understanding of reality. James found philosophy 5 minutes ago and built a meta-othering-myth to caricature the “badguys” whilst being too horrified to actually talk to anyone.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому +1

      The religious always seem to have locked their brains away.

  • @DVX_BELLORVM
    @DVX_BELLORVM Місяць тому +4

    The idea that Christianity has declined in the West due to the development of scientific knowledge is just a bit too neat of an explanation. There are plenty of scientists in the Islamic world who are religious believers and plenty of Muslim scientists in Western countries who remain devout. I think there's something more particular about Western culture, Christianity, and our relationship to religion that is the cause of the decline rather than just empiricism.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      Christianity has declined as prosperity increases. This is partly due to scientific knowledge. Scientists in the islaminc world do not base their science on their beliefs/holy book - or if they do they are not doing science. Many people have the ability to partition their faith from their knowledge - I call it intellectual dishonesty.

  • @spitfirefrench
    @spitfirefrench 2 місяці тому +50

    Watching this unironically from a Haven Holidays camp

    • @random_an0n
      @random_an0n 2 місяці тому +3

      based,rory the tiger was also based and so was manic the parrot,90s kids know.

  • @Ermz
    @Ermz 2 місяці тому +21

    24:00 god, I'm so glad Carl saw this about the Fallout show. This completely snuck under the radar of the majority viewers.

    • @Ragehaven
      @Ragehaven 2 місяці тому +3

      I don't actually believe Sargon is correct is this instance. I'll have to re watch the show.

    • @Skiritai
      @Skiritai 2 місяці тому +4

      ​@@RagehavenHe isn't

    • @Ragehaven
      @Ragehaven 2 місяці тому +1

      @brianschultz962 I didn't think so either.

    • @CopingwithPanels
      @CopingwithPanels 2 місяці тому +3

      He isn’t correct because *SPOILERS BELOW*
      -
      -
      the Vault of the main character is first of all majority white and second we are literally told that the vault she comes from is a eugenics experiment to breed a new managerial class for the new world based on Vault tech managers which was majority white. Marriage isn’t freely decided, you‘re paired off with selected partners. It’s a main plot point in the first episode that the main character is having an arranged marriage and the big twist is the revelation of managers being unfrozen over time to mix into the Vaults gene pool. So in actuality it’s exactly the opposite of what Carl said. It couldn‘t be more clear how people aren’t just all biracial.

    • @elLooto
      @elLooto Місяць тому

      You can see "one of everything" casting everywhere.

  • @dontcallthemliberals3316
    @dontcallthemliberals3316 2 місяці тому +73

    That's beauty of being a christian. You have to believe in resurrection.

  • @sosaysthecaptain5580
    @sosaysthecaptain5580 2 місяці тому +8

    I was where you are on religion in the fairly recent past. I didn’t start being Christian because I thought it would be useful, I did because the preponderance of evidence convinced me it was the truth.
    Go read about simulation theory and then the Shroud of Turin. Saying a clockwork universe disproves God is like saying the existence of a physics engine proves a video game wrote itself.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      " I did because the preponderance of evidence convinced me it was the truth. " That is a load of bollocks. You wanted christianity to be true so decided that there was evidence. There is not. The shroud is a medieval hoax - it doesn't even depict a realistic human. If that is all the evidence you needed, you are just confirming your biases, even if you thought you had none.

    • @Suiseisexy
      @Suiseisexy 27 днів тому

      The opposite of this for me, Kierkegaard has it right and god requires faith, he left nothing for us to discover that suspends that requirement. They'll just flat earth you bro.

  • @dylanl7073
    @dylanl7073 2 місяці тому +5

    Great to see this!
    I saw the tweet about it yesterday and got up early hoping to catch it.

  • @LeeGee
    @LeeGee 2 місяці тому +11

    The best interview I've seen with CB -- a most erudite speaker.

  • @NamelessKing1597
    @NamelessKing1597 2 місяці тому +3

    Traditionalism: security
    Conservatism: freedom and security
    Anarchism: freedom
    Libertarianism: FREEDOM and equality
    Liberalism: freedom and equality
    Socialism: freedom and EQUALITY
    Communism: EQUALITY and security
    Fascism: equality and SECURITY.

  • @nicholasfevelo3041
    @nicholasfevelo3041 2 місяці тому +21

    Benjamin finally seems ready to give up on Liberalism.

    • @ymirs4400
      @ymirs4400 2 місяці тому

      Duh, He’s a nazi lol

    • @Cpruett
      @Cpruett 2 місяці тому +14

      Place as many "I just want to be left alone"s together it'll never best the "My way is righteous and anything else is evil" and you'll see the flaws in Liberalism over and over.
      Point to any dead letter you wish without the people whom truely believe it'll never mean or enforce anything.

    • @andypae
      @andypae 2 місяці тому +10

      Why hold onto a failing concept? He has done his research and found the flaws of it.

    • @Prayingfrog
      @Prayingfrog 2 місяці тому +4

      Well, at this point I think you'd have to be somewhat willfully ignorant to not at least consider the prospect that this intellectual project has moved toward our ruin.

    • @suzukisixk7
      @suzukisixk7 Місяць тому +2

      we aer 8% of the planet, dropping quickly, and we have lost rough half our wealth globally in a single generation.... at what point would you be ready to consider something else?

  • @FatNorthernBigot
    @FatNorthernBigot 2 місяці тому +7

    I've been listening to Nick's podcast on Google Podcasts, but the UA-cam algorithm suggested I watch it, instead. Clearly Mr Dixon is going up in the world. 👍

  • @islamentable1290
    @islamentable1290 2 місяці тому +5

    Frederick F Nolan wrote a book in the 70’s. Logan’s Run. Terrible movie and TV series made from it. They both missed his thesis that the young grew up angry with their elders, until they got to the point of lynching them and calling for an age cap. Now seems prescient?

  • @travtotheworld
    @travtotheworld 2 місяці тому +30

    I like exercise. I like the feeling after I work out. I know that it's good for me. I STILL HATE GOING TO THE GYM. The fact that I don't like going to church isn't about a lack of belief. It's about my broken nature. Hating going to the gym doesn't mean I don't believe in health and hating going to church doesn't mean I don't believe in God.

    • @astrovarius543
      @astrovarius543 2 місяці тому +7

      Learn to love the pain.
      Working out gives me the "good pain" it's a pain I only get to experience from doing something beneficial, and thus I associate it with a job well done.
      So too for worship. The sensitivity to sin comes from having a cleaner spirit, especially when I find myself to be the sinner.
      Thus I am not ashamed to be ashamed of my behaviour, for through learning to become like Christ and moving to be so, I become more painfully aware of my faults.
      It is a *good pain*

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 2 місяці тому

      I would need to know tgat the guy delivering the sermon hadn't spent all night at a bondage party with 3 R-ent boys.

    • @mrfawkes9110
      @mrfawkes9110 2 місяці тому

      @travtotheworld
      This may be the perfect analogy.

    • @CLairsoftFTW
      @CLairsoftFTW Місяць тому

      @@astrovarius543yeah I love the fact I’ve gone through the pain, but if you love the pain from the gym you’re not working out hard enough mate

  • @Mikesapien
    @Mikesapien 2 місяці тому +8

    24:13 "You've got the Ghoul and the Vault dweller. Every other character (practically) is some person of color"
    This take on Amazon's Fallout is simply not accurate. If you Google "Fallout cast," you'll notice 15 out of 24 of the top-billed actors appear white. The show is set in the city of Los Angeles, and LA is ~40% white, so the show is perfectly representative of LA county, or at least, what remains of LA in 2296.
    Besides Lucy and Cooper, you've got Lucy's father Hank, her mother Rose, her brother Norm, her cousin Chet, Enclave scientist Wilzig, Elder Quintus, Squire Thaddeus, Mr. House, and PLENTY of other white characters. Not sure where Carl is getting this "every other character" nonsense unless he hasn't actually watched the show. Unless by "every other character" he means "about half of the characters,," which would be fair.
    We should criticize shows that make implausible casting choices, but Fallout is not one of those shows (with one exception: Maximus' friend "Dane," the only gender nonbinary soldier in the apocalyptic wasteland).

    • @ThriftingSquirrel
      @ThriftingSquirrel 2 місяці тому +1

      I agree! ‘Fallout’ is actually one of the few decent shows around at the moment. I hate all the gender nonsense, Dane is a character that can be ignored from a “non-binary” perspective; it hasn’t so far, at least, taken anything away from the plot, or made it a big issue in the show.

    • @wrongthinker843
      @wrongthinker843 2 місяці тому +6

      "actors appear white"
      That "appear" could easily take the world power-lifting record.

    • @xokelis0015
      @xokelis0015 Місяць тому

      @@ThriftingSquirrel
      Watch Mauler's take on Fallout. Endless entertainment value.

  • @HiddenRefuge
    @HiddenRefuge 2 місяці тому +7

    Freedom isn't equal, some people are simply better than others. We can build a world of equal opportunities but we can't have equal people... and we never will unless we reduce our population to a single human being; I don't think it's the sort of freedom we should be aiming for.

    • @zackc8207
      @zackc8207 2 місяці тому +1

      Exactly. And even in an equal society there's going to be those who are "more equal then others" which might result in tribalistic competion to see who's the more equal (which ironically could lead to racist imperialism)

  • @Pengalen
    @Pengalen 2 місяці тому +5

    Around 15:00 give or take, Carl makes the claim that "Liberalism" wants everyone to be equal, but then conflates that with equal ownership of property, which I don't think is at all what "Liberalism" means by equality. Liberalism wants equality under the law. Even in a state of absolute legal equality and fairness, you would still have unequal distribution of property and resources, but it would be vastly less than what exists in the world today. It would be based on differentials in the talents and drives of individuals, and that would be ok. Inequality in the world today is mostly based on subtle forms of theft, and some amount of sheer luck. Similarly, because Liberalism doesn't demand absolute equality, it also doesn't seek a "state of nature" which would be the opposite of civilization, which is required to exist for Liberalism to exist. Carl seems to be assuming his conclusion by looking at liberalism through a communist lens.

    • @timmytheevil
      @timmytheevil 2 місяці тому +2

      Quiet you fool, you're dismantling his misunderstood boogeyman!

    • @thehammer9599
      @thehammer9599 Місяць тому

      Yes, I found his rationale quite garbled. I think classical liberalism HAS failed because it was displaced by socialist apparatus. It wasn’t strong enough to stand up for itself.

    • @Daniel-xy1vk
      @Daniel-xy1vk 22 дні тому +1

      Ya, I'm pretty uneducated but I was quite confused by him presupposing this too. I might not even watch the rest of the video to be honest.

  • @geoded
    @geoded 2 місяці тому +11

    Top notch work Mr Dixon.

  • @Funaru
    @Funaru 2 місяці тому +3

    Peter Hitchens said he became a Christian when he realised he could be judged after death. That's not really a rational reason but a foundation to build rationalisations around.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      It's no sort of foundation at all. It"s basically fear of the unevidenced irrational. Why not just "realise" that one is reincarnated to have another go?? Just as silly. Poor Peter.

  • @cerberus8666
    @cerberus8666 2 місяці тому +10

    I'm attached to Sargon XD
    What a great interview both of you. And how refreshing.

    • @mobbs6426
      @mobbs6426 2 місяці тому +2

      "Carl Benjamin? Oh, you mean the mo' f kin Sargon!"

  • @TheSilverJedi
    @TheSilverJedi 2 місяці тому +5

    1:10:08 Carl, respectfully, your assertion is only possibly true if your underlying atheist beliefs are true. If the Christians are correct then belief in and worship of Christ might fade in a region or country or culture but it won’t disappear from the world.

  • @sorsocksfake
    @sorsocksfake 2 місяці тому +5

    47:30 on Geert Wilders/ the Netherlands: The Dutch don't elect a prime minister, nor does the biggest party automatically gain it, let alone have full control. It's a coalition, in this case almost certainly of 4 parties, that have to negotiate. Wilders may have the most votes, but that doesn't entitle him to anything. Theoretically he can even be sidelined for an elitist coalition (though that's very unlikely to work, and would probably destroy the VVD, NSC, and quite possibly PvdA (Labour). Even now, Wilders has gone in the polls from his 25% win to a 33% vote share, so the other parties can only do so much.
    Even so, Wilders has to make concessions. He's widely considered "often right on the issues, but hard to vote for someone that abrasive, extreme and caustic". Most concessions he already made before the election (he only got the win because of that - he polled in 4th place prior). But his partners still insisted he should not be PM, and he conceded that. This is uncommon, but not overly odd.
    Should be noted that 3 out of 4 coalition partners will not have [signiifcant] prior governing experience, so that contributed to the thought of getting outsiders to take the government posts.

    • @MrWeebable
      @MrWeebable 2 місяці тому +1

      There is only 1 way in which Geert Wilders is on the right: he is against mass immigration and against Islamisation of the West specifically.
      However, in all other aspects Wilders is a socialist, and on the left on most issues.

    • @louiscachet7681
      @louiscachet7681 2 місяці тому +1

      Good explanation. I'm tired of these people not even doing basic research on the stuff they talk about. Makes me doubt they know anything about anything.

    • @emjay9688
      @emjay9688 Місяць тому

      @@louiscachet7681 They know less than they think they do, but they do know very well what their audience wants to hear. It's really grating, because for every good point or observation you get a snide, half-informed remark, or self-pat on the back. Almost as annoying to listen to as Novara.

  • @heretic124
    @heretic124 2 місяці тому +7

    My favorite example of forced diversity is in Wheel of Time show from Amazon. The main characters come from isolated village in the hills, yet each is different shade of color. The place used to be a prosperous capital of mountain kingdom a thousand years ago.
    How come that after 1000 years of isolation they're not all pale brownish? How come there are white gingers, brown even black people? Isn't it suspicious? It's almost like mixed color relationships were forbidden, isn't it? 🤡
    But the reality is that the creators simply don't give a shit about logical inconsistencies like this. It's why most western movies, shows and video games today suck.

    • @ThriftingSquirrel
      @ThriftingSquirrel 2 місяці тому +1

      I watched the first season then decided to try the books, and they were so much better I stuck with them, and stopped watching the show.

    • @rocketpig1914
      @rocketpig1914 2 місяці тому

      I doubt that the reasons movies suck is because of the color of the actors.

  • @jimvermeer9451
    @jimvermeer9451 2 місяці тому +4

    God is working, in many countries faith in Jesus is rising. Example Iran, China, Pakistan, in Paris lost month the church was astonished by how many unbelievers came to get baptized as Catholic. Yes the old world is dying but the new one is coming! Indeed we will face many trials but we will face them without fear because we have Jesus on our side

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      Faith only rises in desperate places. In the west it is sharply declining as people realise they don't need any gods. When these countries raise their standards of living, faith will also decline there. Prosperity needs to be built on rationality, not superstitious nonsense.

    • @LUIS-ox1bv
      @LUIS-ox1bv Місяць тому

      ​​@@lil-alFaith rises when men are slapped with the reality that they are flawed, susceptible to corruption, and prone to seek the easy way out, which cannot confer greatness. Christianity has existed for 2000 years, and has out lasted every attempt by those who despise its teachings , and belittle its adherents. The mighty Roman Empire, failed to destroy it by its persecutions. The French Revolution, failed to stamp it out. The Bolsheviks never snuffed out the light of Truth in Russia. And so it was, and so it will be until the return of the true King.

  • @aidanmagill6769
    @aidanmagill6769 2 місяці тому +2

    Was liberalism actually tried?
    Seems like we in the U.K have adopted the American usage of liberal - ie it's not even liberalism we're talking about but rather progressivism.

    • @Zidana123
      @Zidana123 Місяць тому

      sounds like you're getting into the 'that's not true Communism' type of argumentation there :x
      What would be 'true liberalism' in your view and how would you go about trying it?

  • @MarmaLloyd
    @MarmaLloyd 2 місяці тому +2

    Found the channel from LE-Podcast. Can't wait to see what you make of it Nick.

    • @nick_dixon
      @nick_dixon  2 місяці тому +1

      Thanks! Big things planned.

  • @frikyouall
    @frikyouall 2 місяці тому +7

    God is still stewarding the ship, mate. Just because we know how to operate the main sails and why we polish the deck and varnish the wood doesn't mean the ship now steers itself.

  • @eatafox
    @eatafox 2 місяці тому +1

    I would argue that the kid with the better off parents who gets sent to a better school, is still equality of opportunity.
    The parents gained their wealth through legitimate means so just b/c they transferred their wealth to their child doesn't suddenly turn it illegitimate.
    Nobody is entitled to anybody else's wealth, no matter how far down the chain it goes.

  • @ThriftingSquirrel
    @ThriftingSquirrel 2 місяці тому +3

    The Cass Review has already made a significant difference to the NHS, and is tangible evidence we can use now to push back even harder. We can’t get complacent though. The shouty activists will gradually be drowned out.

  • @reuvenpolonskiy2544
    @reuvenpolonskiy2544 Місяць тому +1

    Belief is not binary but on a spectrum.

  • @danielscalera6057
    @danielscalera6057 2 місяці тому +4

    So he isn't a "classical liberal" anymore?

  • @MrWeebable
    @MrWeebable 2 місяці тому +2

    Is it not Liberalism that says "equal under the law"? How does that principle allow for communism where the law is most severe for the most succesful and most loose for the most criminal?

  • @hach2023
    @hach2023 2 місяці тому +3

    Good session lads.

  • @eatafox
    @eatafox 2 місяці тому +4

    Carl is right on the convictions front.
    I remember when I was 5-8 I WANTED to go to church.
    It was something that, even if it was boring I wanted to do b/c I had real conviction over it.
    Yet when I was a pre-teens my belief waned. I no longer wanted to go, and I remember one Sunday,
    me and my cousins hid from my Grampa b/c we didn't want to go to church.
    That was enough to make this stoic old man CRY and it's b/c he had real conviction behind his belief.
    It's not just something you can pragmatically force.
    Edit: on the clock work universe I very much disagree with your assessments. And I think it's a Very naive way of looking at it. The more I learn about how the universe works, the more I realize the amount of things that just needs to go perfectly right, is astounding. How the elements react, gravity, energy being at its current state. Fun fact: the smallest thing the human eye can see is a human egg. Did you know that the human egg fits perfect between the smalkest thing "the plank length" and the estimated size of the universe. The idea that the universe is just a coincidence is impossible to believe.

    • @eatafox
      @eatafox 2 місяці тому

      Currently I wouldn't call my self an atheist.
      I like the Christian teaching but I disagree on the anthropomorphising of God as a figuer. God to me is "goodness"(I will not elaborate b/c that would take a five page essay) and while the teachings in the Bible adequately explains the universe with the worldy knowledge we had at the time. Staunchly believing that the teachings are 100% factual and not more of a way to explain God's creations with worldly understanding is down right foolish.

  • @josephconsiglio965
    @josephconsiglio965 2 місяці тому +2

    That comment about Norah Vincent's book @35:50 was great.

  • @hismajesty6272
    @hismajesty6272 2 місяці тому +2

    I disagree on the church thing. It’s basically separating the wheat from the chaff right now, but it’s very much alive, and has some good prospects as many turn away from the hyper secular hellhole of the Woke West.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      Maybe check your census data. Here in Australia religion is on a sharp decline. Thank "god".

  • @hanswurscht6625
    @hanswurscht6625 2 місяці тому +2

    Equality of opportunity sounds even better than equality of outcome but it's as ridiculous cause as Carl rightly said, it's just pushing equalism down a generation. If everyone's kids get to have the same opportunities, why the hell would parents do anything? I work hard so my sons get to have a headstart. That's the whole point of being a good parent.

  • @yermanoh
    @yermanoh Місяць тому +1

    Worse is worse, is a concept I haven't heard articulated before, sometimes the obvious needs stating

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging3044 Місяць тому +1

    Proud to have supported Sargon/Lotus Eaters and that he made the top 50 list is gratifying.

  • @djm5310
    @djm5310 2 місяці тому +3

    Huge fan of The Lotus Eaters and Carl. Nice!

  • @kevinduggan201
    @kevinduggan201 2 місяці тому +1

    With regards to christianity in england, specifically, there has always been a tension between faith and people not beliving. When i was 17, i went to york minster as part of my A level medival history
    Anyway, we had a guided tour from a PhD student who was writing her thesis on this exact point, she claimed that the older pagan and celtic cultrural traditions were far stronger in social.interactions and general societal attitudes, she showed us a pipe roll (for those whomdont know its kind of a copy of scrolls and letters pasted together) anyway there is a letter from the archbishop of york to the pope beamonaing the attitude of specifically northern english christians, it overtly ststed they were more pagen in attitude and temprement, and while nice, friendly and affible when the church bells rang you would find more.people in the ale house than the church pues. We also see this in the adoption of pagan traditions into uk occasions such as easter, halloween, sowen, and may day. The chaos of oliver cromwells rule and the near 2nd civil war also hints at a less than fervant christian faith in the general population......that being said i think society needs an over arching philisophical and moral framework to anchor itself. What that is, i dont know, i dont think "prenentding" or "perfomative belife" for want of a better word, is the correct rout, as that was just be a shallow veneer of faith without any supporting framework really. I think the challege is to search out and devise one for a larglely secular society, i belive Jainism has no actual deities in it, so perhaps something analogus to that may be better.

  • @Talamd83
    @Talamd83 2 місяці тому +2

    I also struggle with the respect for the virtues of faith with the conflict of not wanting to “phone in” belief.
    Humanity missed a beat when we failed to evolve organized communities centered around moral tenets that acknowledge our scientific understanding.

    • @astrovarius543
      @astrovarius543 2 місяці тому

      A big step in believing is surrender.
      It's a crucial ingredient in 'faith'.
      Instead of "phoning it in" have you considered "trial period"
      Or as I used for my own justification, "just to see what I can see"?
      I haven't found community in faith just yet, but I have found God and the spirit of Him which dwells with me.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 2 місяці тому

      If 50,000 people were willing to give $10 a week, we could build our own communities, our own churches and schools, parks and housing for our young people.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      We haven't missed that beat - it is what we are still striving for. Religion is still holding us back, but we can get there. (How anyone thinks biblegod is moral is beyond me - we can do better and we will,)

  • @alexmac337
    @alexmac337 2 місяці тому +15

    Love Lotus Eaters Podcast so very much looking forward to listening to this one on the way to work. Also Nick, any chance you can get either Eva Vlaardingeebroek or Amy Gallagher on a future show?

    • @nick_dixon
      @nick_dixon  2 місяці тому +4

      Thanks. Was thinking of asking Amy.

  • @Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove
    @Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove 2 місяці тому +2

    I honestly believe that at some point over the next couple of decades, some countries will established a maximum age. Some will do it by rationing healthcare, or limiting it to palliative care, and pain management, perhaps eliminating programs installing a social security cut off age, and encourage assisted suicide for older citizens, and at least one country will at least attempt to make it legally required.

    • @emjay9688
      @emjay9688 Місяць тому

      Mate, plenty of countries limit the type of health care you can access past certain age - good luck getting e.g. transplants after 70 in most countries in the world. Part of it is because certain types of medical interventions - transplants, cancer treatment - are simply too invasive or dangerous at that age, but it also does come down to whether with available means do you save someone with maybe 3-5 years to live, or someone in their twenties who with some luck can hope for 20-30 more years in good health?

  • @spartakos3178
    @spartakos3178 2 місяці тому +2

    Christ or Chaos.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      Lol.

  • @RichardEnglander
    @RichardEnglander 2 місяці тому +2

    53:00 assisted dying. It is akin to Logan's Run with them getting to 30 and 'renewal' where they were laser zapped and turned into food.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 2 місяці тому

      Soylent Green shows it well. It will certainly save the elites money on healthcare and welfare.

  • @darthtater4655
    @darthtater4655 2 місяці тому +2

    Carl of Akkad is da man!

  • @englishovals
    @englishovals Місяць тому +1

    Carl is an international treasure

  • @TheLewylew
    @TheLewylew 2 місяці тому +1

    19:42 I think it's because you are looking at it from a collective sense and not an individualistic sense. It's not the responsibility of others to build you up. just to make sure the opportunity is there for you to take if you get to the position through merit in the first place.

  • @evolassunglasses4673
    @evolassunglasses4673 2 місяці тому +9

    John Waters or Keith Woods would be great guests to talk about the Irish pushback against Plantation migration.

  • @HeathRHansen
    @HeathRHansen Місяць тому +1

    Don't give up on him. :) Pray for him and keep having honest conversations. Carl can take a very C.S. Lewis journey yet.

  • @anon-yw4wd
    @anon-yw4wd 2 місяці тому +1

    Classical liberalism has failed too in case you haven't noticed.

  • @rudi5139
    @rudi5139 2 місяці тому +1

    Let me quote Bowden to explain what right-wing actually means :
    „Now, what does Nietzsche believe? He believes that strength is moral glory. That courage is the highest form of morality. That life is hierarchical.
    That everything's elitist. There's a hierarchy in each individual. And a hierarchy in every group of individuals. There's a hierarchy between groups of individuals. Inequality is what Right-wing ideas really mean.
    Right-wing ideas aren't just a bit of flag-waving and baiting a few Muslims. Right-wing ideas are spiritually about inequality.“

  • @davidbrinnen
    @davidbrinnen 2 місяці тому +7

    31:18 are they "morally compelled" ? Or is it that they have no morals at all, but instead do whatever is necessary to provide themselves with more power? I can't help but think if the situation were reversed, they would not stick to their convictions, whatever they happen to be, if it meant sacrificing institutional power. Claiming the moral high ground, is just a position they take because they know it is effective against their opponents. I think the moment they see no political gain from adopting a certain stance, they will drop it like a hot potato and push forwards a load of useful idiots to take the blame in their stead. I expect, if this particular issue blows up in their face, which is might well, they will distance themselves from it so fast it will be jarring.

    • @Miyuki2319
      @Miyuki2319 2 місяці тому +2

      Self-serving flip-flopping on basic morality is central to the whole ideology. They have the idea that different cultures can be (differently) successful with different values and that they can't determine which morality is "correct". So, there's a lazy assumption that if a leftist ideologue can't tell which moral stance is better, then they are all functionally identical. Therefore, you can hold all of them without being considered a hypocrite (by the people who matter, not you and me). Therefore, the best way to be is to hold whatever position gives you the most benefit in that moment and change course at the wind's discretion.
      The answer to that pit of stupidity is realizing that, regardless of whether there is a "best" moral system or not, behaving in an erratic, self-serving, and short-sighted manner has the worst long-term outcomes for one's place in society. To continue the wind metaphor, if you keep changing course to keep the wind at your back, you may go fast but you probably won't end up anywhere worthwhile. So, the best you can do is pick a moral system that has worked for people in your region before and stick to it while acknowledging the inherent flaws and shortcomings.

  • @Emerald_Wolf
    @Emerald_Wolf 2 місяці тому +1

    Great watch

  • @colinjames7569
    @colinjames7569 Місяць тому

    Our achievements are not never celebrated by society’s. We ended slavery. We allowed freedom. Justice. The ability to seek harmony. This is merit based. And inhibit upon our culture (s)

  • @NoNameNo.5
    @NoNameNo.5 Місяць тому +1

    He’s so close to belief, give em a year, we all go back to the source

  • @M4dM4n96
    @M4dM4n96 2 місяці тому +1

    GB News not inviting Sargon on but inviting AA on is... telling, to say the least

    • @nick_dixon
      @nick_dixon  2 місяці тому +1

      Why is that telling? They probably didn’t know much about AA and his clip immediately led to a hope not hate hit piece. They’re now probably more worried about him if anything.

  • @NFSCfan
    @NFSCfan 2 місяці тому +2

    Great discussion as always Nick, thank you. Your style combines the depths of human experience, the lightness and fun of comedy, all the while challenging your guests in a way that allows them to express their views in a good faith forum. I follow Carl quite closely and he does great work too and he’s added tremendous value to the world. However, on certain topics I perceive him to be stuck in an intellectual rut. Namely in this case elite theory. He defends liberal democracy as it presents itself to us, in fairness admitting some peripheral flaws in it too, but then proceeds to say that none of the available parties or political movements represent the interests of the people. And furthermore, that certain ideas or worldviews are effectively gate-kept from being viable options anyway. I find this element his thinking fundamentally lacking as he hasn’t seemed to have connected the dots as to why this might be. Why is it that there are no viable alternatives that represent men like him? I wonder if elite theory can provide insight into this.

  • @GodsOwnPrototype
    @GodsOwnPrototype 2 місяці тому +7

    The important things are the formation of children in the belief & a position of high morale in your worldview & people.

  • @jamievaughn1485
    @jamievaughn1485 Місяць тому

    My problem with both sides is that neither is keeping the billionaires in check who are collectively running media and ensuring the middle class are taxed to death and have little opportunity to thrive. I don't see an answer from anyone in politics currently who will lower our taxes by a good amount, stop govt spending, and keep the govt out of my business.

  • @davyboy9397
    @davyboy9397 2 місяці тому +1

    I think major organized religion is in a bad place , but smaller churches are breaking apart from governing denomination conventions and now even house churches are seeing a large growth spurt and these churches and house churches are returning to Biblical values and traditional ways thank God

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      Why does one need churches at all?? Why not just have faith in your chosen deity and get on with life? (I think it is because constant weekly brainwashing from church is required to keep belief going - but YMMV.)

  • @germanikolaas
    @germanikolaas 2 місяці тому +1

    Liberalism has succeeded.

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 Місяць тому

    Its not that liberalism has failed it has that illiberalism has failed.

  • @I-Dophler
    @I-Dophler 2 місяці тому +1

    In a club traditionally designated as a men's club, the question arises: does it retain its identity as a men's club if transgender individuals who identify as women are in attendance? The response may seem straightforward: yes, it remains a men's club, given that all attendees are biologically male. However, this raises deeper questions about the evolving landscape of gender identity and inclusivity within social spaces.

    • @JT-bc5cd
      @JT-bc5cd 2 місяці тому

      Reject the degeneracy outright. Mock and shame these cross-dressers

    • @astrovarius543
      @astrovarius543 2 місяці тому +2

      No.
      Mens clubs are not just about the sex or "gender" of the attendees.
      But also about what goes on therein.
      You would only disgenerously and with derisive humour call a gentleman's/strip club or a gay bathhouse a "men's club".
      However a genuine men's club is for men where masculinity is respected and practiced.
      So, again, no.
      Unless they were seeking to break their delusion and become genuine men once more.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 2 місяці тому

      I thought feminists destroyed men's clubs fifty years ago, which is why I have little sympathy now their spaces are invaded.

    • @I-Dophler
      @I-Dophler 2 місяці тому

      @@astrovarius543 Biologically, human beings are generally classified as male or female, based on a binary system determined by anatomy and genetics-specifically the presence of XY chromosomes for males and XX for females. In the context of a men's club, which traditionally has been a space for biological males, this classification would imply membership should be based on these biological criteria alone. Hence, from this viewpoint, regardless of gender identity or expression, a men's club would be defined by the biological sex of its members.

    • @I-Dophler
      @I-Dophler 2 місяці тому

      @@astrovarius543 In maintaining the traditional definition of a men’s club, it is essential to recognize the role of biological sex. The club’s identity as a space for males is grounded in the biological attributes-chromosomal, hormonal, and anatomical-that define a male. It is these characteristics that have historically and scientifically delineated men’s spaces, and they continue to be a straightforward and definitive aspect of such social clubs.”

  • @wmurray689
    @wmurray689 2 місяці тому +1

    Carl, if you haven't been to Lincoln, go and see that Cathedral.

    • @emjay9688
      @emjay9688 Місяць тому

      Indeed, one of the more interesting expressions of theological ideas of its time in built form.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      @@emjay9688 I both love and hate cathedrals. They are certainly awe-inspiring - you can almost feel gods in them - but they represent to me a fantastic waste of resources, money and man-power which should have been used to make the ordinary person's life more bearable.

  • @optimusd3854
    @optimusd3854 2 місяці тому +1

    There was a startrek episode where at the age of 50 the alien race population had to top themselves so as not to become a drain on society.

    • @FEiSTYFEVER
      @FEiSTYFEVER 2 місяці тому +1

      Sounds very Logan's Run. I can't remember that one at all though. Was it a subplot perhaps?

    • @nevbarnes1034
      @nevbarnes1034 2 місяці тому

      Also _Pebble in the Sky_ by Asimov.

    • @grannyannie2948
      @grannyannie2948 2 місяці тому

      Soylent Green in the 70s.

  • @trydowave
    @trydowave 2 місяці тому +1

    My bowels have failed

  • @TheHitchDawk
    @TheHitchDawk Місяць тому

    The 'ideal' of equality of opportunity is at least shortsighted, because in order to be granted opportunity, one would have to achieve a level of ability to be seriously considered a valid candidate.

  • @mesolithicman164
    @mesolithicman164 2 місяці тому +2

    I'd like to see Carl interviewed on GB News, if only to put a maker down for what the sensible right think. Same with Academic Agent. I think GB News fans, a good proportion, would agree with a lot of his views. The idea that adults need to be protected from time tested truths is absurd. But then we're living in absurd times, ruled by string puppets.

    • @rocketpig1914
      @rocketpig1914 2 місяці тому

      AA was on GB News briefly a few weeks ago.

    • @mesolithicman164
      @mesolithicman164 2 місяці тому

      @@rocketpig1914
      Yes. I saw him and thought he tied Rees Mogg up in knots. That's why we need Based Right Wingers appearing on those shows. The GB News viewing public probably have never heard these ideas aired on the media. Their notion of Right Wing is something like the National Front, I think we need to dispell that idea. To be patriotic, traditionalist, and opposed to mass immigration does not mean you are a heel clicking 1930s German.

  • @user-ys9to2ie7k
    @user-ys9to2ie7k Місяць тому +1

    It's refreshing to hear them objectively talk about dei by letting everyone know how stupid an utterly racist it is ¿`_

  • @TheHitchDawk
    @TheHitchDawk Місяць тому

    On the 'Christianity in the UK' question - ask yourself this - Could any nation be as developed as the Anglosphere, having not thrown-off Christianity, though Christianity in part got us to that developed state?

  • @brianmurphy5313
    @brianmurphy5313 28 днів тому +1

    Every 'ism', when fully realized, is disastrous. iI is a constant state of flux and blending with checks and balances that are required to try to achieve and maintain a 'for the people by the people' government as much as possible. The trick is well-intentioned good faith players across the board of government - also, sadly, never achieved,

  • @benmarr352
    @benmarr352 24 дні тому

    The key point that you have missed with reform is that they recognise the three key issues. Net zero creating enormous costs, massive population growth creating falling gdp per head and falling levels of government provided services and the obvious fact for anyone who has worked in goverment related jobs that at least, the very least, 25% of government spend is wasted. We are now taxed so high due tonthe inefficiency of the state and the selfmperpetuating civil service with no motivation to change that.

  • @MG77740
    @MG77740 Місяць тому

    You will always get to bad outcomes when all ends do not terminate on the good. Equal serves no purpose. It’s does not terminate on the good, necessarily. People can be equally bad off, for example.

  • @jonavery4978
    @jonavery4978 2 місяці тому +2

    Nah Carl, you're dead wrong about Christianity.
    It has always been a return to what we always knew because we had lost our way. That is the story of literally every apostle. They all lost their faith and rediscovered it in Jesus.
    Turns out that pattern is more powerful than the totalitarian certainty of Islam, over the long run.

  • @saucysalmon
    @saucysalmon 2 місяці тому +2

    Nick Dixon about to be cancelled by gbnews

  • @FunkyMink99
    @FunkyMink99 2 місяці тому +19

    I'm Christian and Carl is right. What is in the forefront of your mind is what you believe. If you're not surrendering yourself, picking up your cross, and following Christ, then you are not a Christian.
    If the Christian walk is summed up just as the better alternative, then you're missing the point. That said, God meets us where we're at, not where we ought to be. I'm praying for Carl, that God would meet him where he's at.

    • @dragonhold4
      @dragonhold4 2 місяці тому

      @FunkyMink99
      Idolatry or the 2nd

    • @thefuturist8864
      @thefuturist8864 2 місяці тому

      When you say you’re praying for him, do you mean that you’re praying that he becomes Christian? It’s always been baffling to me that so many Christians aren’t able to accept others for who they are and what they believe, and seek either to actively change them or else have them become changed in some other way. Why pray for him? Why not accept that he is living his life in a way that makes best sense to him?

    • @FunkyMink99
      @FunkyMink99 2 місяці тому +1

      @@thefuturist8864 I understand where your coming from and this is a longer conversation that can't really be addressed in a UA-cam comment section. That said I will try to make a good effort in my intentions as a Christian who loves his fellow man.
      First, I don't believe people are static and incapable of change. I think people are always in a state of change influenced by their surroundings and experiences. This is good, who we are has to be capable of change in order to adapt and live a fruitful life. Carl is who is because of his experiences and I would argue how God made him.
      Second, as a Christian I believe that our natural state is with the father(God,Jesus Trinity) and we are not truly ourselves until we seek relationship with the Lord. I don't want to change Carl into a different person I want Carl to experience the love that the Father has for him. Which by the virtue of following Christ will bear fruit in what we call change. Ideally this means a Christian will become more like Jesus as they walk with him.
      Third, when I say I am praying for him. What I'm doing is asking the Father(God) to continue to pursue a relationship with Carl. I want Carl to experience the salvation of eternal life that can only be found through Jesus Christ.
      Fourth, as a Christian I do not believe I am better than anyone else. Jesus makes it very clear that the least among you will be counted first and the first shall be counted last. Meaning as a Christian I have to fight against my prideful selfish nature to serve others with humility and love.
      Fifth, As a human, my salvation is not granted through merit. As a man I am incapable of ever making myself good in God's eyes. But with God all things are possible which is why Jesus through his sacrifice on the cross gives us the free gift of salvation. Jesus loves me and you like a father loves his child. The child has done nothing to earn this love. Yet the Father gives it freely. The only thing he asks of us is that we receive his salvation with childlike humility.
      Sixth, I watch Lotus Eaters and I tremendously respect Carl. In his show he has mentioned before that he brings his kids to church and has even gotten them dedicated. He also shared a story about telling his kids, when asked if they were Christian, that yes they are Christian. Now that said, Carl followed that up by saying that to be English is to be Christian because it is so entwined with the culture. However, no one is an actual Christian unless they claim Jesus Christ is God the way, the truth and the life. Carl also has made it clear he does not believe.
      TLDR: I say I pray for Carl. Because I want Carl to experience the love that Jesus has for him and the eternal life that is waiting for all of us. What happens after that, meaning if Carl changes, is between him and the Lord. I became a Christian in college 10 years ago. I am still just as broken as I was back then but I seek to live the way Jesus did and I can say with humility that I will never be perfect. Yet that's not the point. The point is that I'm in a relationship with Christ and I seek to be more like him because I love him. The fruits from that relationship are plentiful.

  • @falsicorgi813
    @falsicorgi813 2 місяці тому +1

    Regarding the fallout show, there's less racial diversity than youre saying... But your point finds a home in them shoehorning a nonbianary person into the millitaristic, possibly facist Brotherhood of Steel

  • @Dazza_Doo
    @Dazza_Doo Місяць тому

    I've been around fundamental christians. Many of them were baptists.
    You cannot create faith, You get a desire for it within your own self and within the culture that you are raised. As the prober goes raise a child in the wayThat is right and good and they will never depart from it. That's a rough paraphrase.
    When you distil holdness into people with a religious background it actually gives you an internal warmth, That basically give you a sense of being in the right place at the right time or is sense of meaning.
    This is why I love Christmas in the snow not just the snow.
    A snowy Christmas is an idea of faith, You can be amazing.
    So faith is really cultivated by healthy families A culture that supports it.
    The current government agenda is to destroy everything that has value in faith in it that develops those warm feelings inside yourself knowing that you belong somewhere.
    I digress.
    TNG IDIC (star trek) idealist Gen X here.

    • @lil-al
      @lil-al Місяць тому

      Funny how the "right way" (right god) is purely geographical... almost as if people in different regions make up their own deities to suit their needs...