If you live in the plains of the dairy belt, get the heaviest bike you can get, the winds, already strong, will turn into permanent hurricanes 😢. I see that coming when biking could become an untenable proposition.
I am a former cruiser rider and have owned 3 1100 cruisers in the past. I would be concerned about that exhaust touching down on right handers. I despise that rear end set up. If I was in the market for another cruiser, I am afraid that this wouldn't be on my list.
Let's see how it looks in 18 months time...I know Chinese bikes are coming on and lots of big name bikes are produced there but I'm still on the fence about quality control
Challenging weather, challenging bike but you put yourself through it for our viewing pleasure, you bring your videos to life with your enthusiasm and commentary and, by the way, your singing on Yorkgate. Andy
A very interesting motorcycle, and certainly very nice looking, and if I could still ride big cruiser bikes, I’d certainly consider a test day on it. Who knows, it might even become a popular option! Sadly my days of huge cruiser rides are over due to age and health, also I don’t do the mileage that it’s obviously designed for any more. I have found in recent times that an open mind when considering far east motorcycles is something that can reveal pleasant surprises rather than negative. Remember when people were anti-Japanese? Anyway, thanks for riding this and showing it off, I’m sure it was beneficial to a few prospective buyers.
An interesting bike for sure, to my eye it looks really rather nice, but sounds a bit like a food mixer. Without wanting to upset the RE crowd, nothing that firm currently makes really appeals to me; but where we have an eastern manufacturer stepping into the bigger bike market perhaps others will follow. I think your comments (and other comments here) are right that this is going for the ‘big cruiser enthusiast’ market, but that such riders are more likely to spend their cash on an older bike from an established maker. Heck, I get the impression that the BMW R18 (which I like the look of) struggles to make headway with the American V-twin sector, so a Chinese firm has it’s work cut out…
I went through a Harley phase for almost 20 years, owned 4 of them. Nothing inherently choppy with a belt drive, very smooth on the HDs. Not my cup of tea these days, and I much prefer my modern classics.
I'm not into cruisers, but I actually like this! I guess the steering wasn't helped by the cold wet roads? An excellent review in awful conditions! I like the way you take your time to cover every aspect of the bike, very enjoyable and great viewing in a stunning part of our country, many thanks, Dennis.
Good Morning Dave , yet again another great review on this bike , i saw Dickie mint ride this bike & he was scraping the silencer on right handers, take care & ride safe
I can see that it belongs on the open roads of the US and not on the squiggles. It is a piece of art and well thought out. I'm your size and age and have never ridden a large cruiser. I can see that the priceing could appeal to the masses that can't afford the HD or Indians. I would rather have the Super Meteor for it's simplicity and light weight factor. The massive weight would be a plus on windy days., and track rain tires a plus if extreme rain days persist. Lol. 👍👍5🏍🙋♂️
Hey thanks for the introduction to this bike. Here in Canada we have a LOT of country to cover on a motorbike.( It takes 30 hours just to drive thru my province of Ontario) . Big cruisers are almost a necessity here if you're a pavement rider. Having said that I'm not sure if too many people here would trust a Chinese made bike especially in the Midwest just because of the lack of spare parts available. This bike isn't bad looking really, it reminds me of an Indian Scout, but I'd opt for a used Kawasaki Vulcan or a Yamaha V-star knowing that they're reliable enough to ride 5 days away from home.
People talking about climate change should investigate the history of the planet to discover how much climate has changed through the years, with or without humans on it. Not saying we dont have an impact, ofcourse we do. But none of the measures governments take are any real solution but just designed to fill their pockets. The only real solution is to no longer live in a consumption based society, to not longer strive for economic growth and to all go back to living simple lives in wooden huts and farming our own food. Are we willing to do that? no. Thats the end of the discussion for me.
Since we don’t all use coal nor coke (and I remember all the soot on the buildings) how can it be getting worse? Where are the pea souper smogs ? Yet no two strokes, and the remedy:-green diesel, and engines twice the size they used to be.
morning Dave, did you know, that when it rains in the UK, the rain first comes out as snow then melts on the way down. And that is through out the year due to our temperate zone on the planet 😆
Looks or rather the lack of them ,it's more of a of a Indian/rocket 3 vibe than full fat harley. At the end of the day it's a want to be ,can't see me chopping my shovelhead in for one.
Morning Dave, Iike yourself I’m not a lover of cruiser style bikes but it does look like it’s been bolted together nicely. The only other review of this bike was from ‘Tins on Tour’ channel and Shaun really rated it. Carry on that man Caio for now tat ta 👍🏻
Morning Dave. Not my thing but looks quite capable. Agree that us smaller channels can’t get press bikes, hence why a certain ex policeman from the Hull area, thinks we shouldn’t be believed when it comes to our opinions, even though we review and ride at the same time, giving the true emotions we feel at THAT moment in time. 😂
That looks like is a real Pub car park crowd pleaser. However The "Who's it for" Question you raised sums it up nicely. Given the propensity for motorcyclist snobbery, the cruiser lovers would most likely not settle for the Harley or at a pinch Indian Chinese "Copy" they would probably rather spend the 10 grand on a decent used "Hog". I hope I'm wrong in a way because I would love to see one out in the wild this riding season.
On your recommendation I visited Appleyards in "sunny" Keighley yesterday and very impressed I was to , proper old school dealership, I saw the MBP C1002 sat outside the dealer, it's not my kind of bike however as I'd never seen one before I had a good look at it, first thing I noted is just how low the seat height was, way to low for me, on the positive side the build quality was excellent and as far as cruisers go it's not a bad looking machine .
I live in Slawit in Huddersfield and the roads you ride on always look really familiar. With regards to this bike, I can't honestly see them selling that many, as like you say, who is it aimed at. Personally I think it's really ugly, it's a relatively unknown brand and we know very little about its reliability in the long term or how available parts will be 5 to 10 years down the line. Apart from anything else, if you want a cruiser like a Harley, another Chinese motorcycle company; Shineray, have acquired the rights to build an exact copy of the original Sportster and from what I have seen online, it looks and sounds more or less exactly the same as the original HD bike. Maybe if you could put some straight thru pipes on this MBP C1002 V it might sound and ride more like what you expect from a cruiser but like the old saying goes: 'You can cover a turd in chocolate, but at the end of the day it's still a turd underneath'. And sadly mate, this bike is a big turd. Oh and one last point: it's called the 1002, yet it's only 997cc. What's the deal there. Be reet lad...................
Love the look of the MBP. Unfortunately we're seeing none of these larger capacity chinese cruisers in Oz and the offerings from the japanese manufacturers are extremely limited and uninspiring. Triumph and Harley are too expensive nowadays BSA isn't available here so that just leaves Royal Enfield 😁
Deffo not a Uk bike, well not north of Watford Gap anyway. Can you imagine trying to get it though some of the Yorkshire, Cumbrian or Scottish passes, it would have to have outriggers to avoid dropping. Good review Dave, your honest diplomacy does you proud.
Yes my friend. I too am sick to my back teeth of this weather - the rain is incessant with no real end in site. Being retired I thought I might have a ride tomorrow - but maybe more rain!!!🫣🥴☹️☹️ Too wet to even cut the grass. Come sunny sunshine - please come out to play. 🤞🤞🤞🤞 I appreciate the bike isn’t your cup of tea but as a cruiser it is not a big bike - not when you consider Triumph have a 2500cc, Harley and Indian go up to around 2000cc and so on. The price is very attractive - however the proof in the pudding is durability build wise and ability to have it serviced throughout its existence. Personally I like the looks though it wouldn’t be my choice of weapon to meander along the back lanes of Yorkshire and beyond - but hey - is a GS 1300 a better??
I must admit I have some misgivings about Chinese motorcycles, but one thing I do like is that some of them actually have belt drive. The traditional manufacturers all seem to fear that Harley-Davidson or BMW will have them shot, if they ever try anything other than the usual, miserable chain drive. It would be great if the Chinese could convince them to offer more than just chains, chains and more chains.
Couldn't agree with you more on chain drive. Why is that even a thing on bikes being sold in 2024? If you're like me (or Freddie Dobbs) you have neither the time, inclination or personal off-street parking / garage space to contemplate maintaining that mess. Cheers
I wonder if the Chinese designers might have been looking at the Ducati Diavel for inspiration. Albeit a 1,000cc version at a fraction of the US$27k pricetag. Wishful thinking?
I saw that bike at the NEC last November and I did like the cruiser styling of it but not its weight and length. I agree with you, it’s not built for Yorkshire’s lanes. Style 👍 pricing 👍 but weight and handling 👎. Good review. Maybe your next review should be for a rowboat in that weather..🤣🤣🤣
Not my style of bike, but I think it'd be ok in North America and on the predominantly straight roads that we have here in Australia. The 5-year warranty is an interesting development, as, if sales are reasonable, it will force other manufacturers to increase their warranty; not before time, frankly.
I bought a VN1500 Suzuki about 15 years ago but although a nice looking bike i just couldn't get on with its feet forward and cruiser style and have never had another cruiser since. You tried hard to love it and I'm sure some will but its not for me.
I’ll stick with my 996cc Ducati for now.. I’ve got to get some life out of it - it’s only done 10k miles so far since new in 2006. This does look like a decent bike though. If i was in the market for a new cruiser I’d give this a look-in though 😅
Have to agree with ya on the exhaust it does seems overly lol war like you'll never forget they're there...... should we call the pipes industrial? I do like the spine of it the tank and seat blending together.... thank you Dave...
@@haxan6663 I bought a 2010 triumph thunderbird 1600 a year ago. Still looks like new and not had a single issue with it (touch wood). Would probably get near enough what I paid for it if I sold it on now.
That size of lard arsed cruiser isn't for me ,too long and bulky, it is nicely styled though , the Chinese are getting good at stylish looking bikes, my missus has a Zontes GK125, and it's a cracking looking 125 , and the riders view is similar to this obviously with a slimmer tank 😆, As for the build quality I wouldn't have any worries, my wife's Zontes is ridden in all weather and it's holding up fine , it's even got stainless steel spokes on tubeless rims , and a full stainless exhaust, so I'd think the build quality on this cruiser should be fine especially as it's a lot more money. But yeah, as someone else has said the Enfield super meteor would be my choice for a cruiser, or the Shotgun for a more roadster style . Interesting bike and review though Dave , as for this bloody weather, well it's one of the reasons I ride my Classic 350 a lot more than my other bikes, the mudgaurds actually work and keep the bike very clean! and being the dark version I don't have any polishing to do ! 😅 Cheers Mel 🍻
With weights and dimensions in Goldwing territory, it would be a good marker for somebody who has neither bike to know your thoughts/score comparison please?
I had a 2013 Goldwing, rode it all over Europe but the insane weight was ALWAYS there waiting to bite you in the ass. I never dropped it but everyone else who rode it did. Finally despite being an excellent bike, I found it boring 😆 Edit, at 262kg, it's a lightweight! My Goldwing was 390kg and my current Harley Springer Classic still feels light at 320kg.
Good appraisal once again, Dave. You've covered all the basics, as far as I'm concerned, and anything you might have omitted can easily be sourced with a bit of effort by an interested party. Your pros certainly appear to outweigh the cons. You are correct though. This machine is for parched, arrow straight highways with cloudless blue skies, cactus strewn desert on either side and not really for roads that are soaking wet, littered with potholes and meander all over the place. However, having said that, there'll be those here in the UK who might find this machine of interest and if so, after suitable research, they should go for it if it still piques their desires. Who cares what the snobs think. Already, I can hear the high horse attitude of Harley and Indian owners sniggering and sneering at such a machine, though. Oh dear. Good one mate. 👍
Hi Dave, does it have ABS breaking system? What are service intervals? What accessories are available, I.e. luggage for touring etc? How many dealerships for servicing? You need to mention these touring items. Cheers. Biker John.
With the greatest of respect, why can't you obtain the desired data for yourself? If you were genuinely interested in 'a' bike, you'd test ride it yourself, wouldn't you,..... or would you get someone to do that for you? 🙄
@@lowersaxon Oh my! My comment obviously went straight in one ear and out the other, didn't it? Let me help you out: What has getting off your backside and doing something for yourself have anything to do with watching one of Dave's videos? Take your time. 🙄
Belt drive smoothes out snatchy drive trains especially with HD Sportsters, which used to eat chains and sprockets in the old days. The Chinese EVOLUTION Sportster can be serviced by any HD dealership or any independent shop . Parts supply is excellent and custom parts and engine hop up stuff out the wazoo. Big rear tires are out of fashion and very expensive and wear out the same as normal size tires.
Funny how folks have different preferences. Reminds me of Yamaha VMAX. It really is a value because even Honda Rebel 1100 has less features for more money and Honda has 2 year warranty.
I must say I’d like to give a belt drive a go to see what they are like. However most are on cruisers which are not my thing. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything but let the video do the talking. You obviously weren’t happy but the weather did not help. Whether it will take off will be down to the Harley / Indian riders that may be tempted but they tend to be very brand loyal so I can’t see it doing very well. However each to their own and if you can’t afford the US brands it may just find some buyers. I think it’s a bit too big for the small country roads but may get some buyers from the Highway guys.Personally I think it’ll be as rare as hens teeth.
Morning Dave good review of this Chinese monstrosity yes it might look quite nice bike and price seems good with 5 yr warranty but very sceptical of Chinese quality I haven’t heard much really about Chinese but the price perhaps reflects that but I’ll stick to triumph I’ve had 2 triumphs and can’t fault them ride safe
I’m am shocked that this is the first belt drive motorcycle you’ve ridden. The heavy cruisers are not for everyone for sure. I wonder if this bike will sale?
Beautiful bike! Id love to have that in my stable but it's absolutely laughable that any pom can think they can execute a good bike review with your ridiculous weather conditions🤣
It looks to me like a maxi scooter that's been turned into a cruiser. I bought a Midnight Star 650 cruiser and I sold 341 miles later. Awful , I really don't know why anyone in the UK would want one.
That ridiculous fatboy rear tyre will make cornering a challenge. A more sensible width woud improve the handling the looks and might entice a few Harley sportster riders to upgrade. 😅😅😅
I suppose it’s not a bad effort as far as cruiser bikes go, even though it’s a monstrosity just like the Harley’s. I don’t get that tacky bitza rear mudguard come reg plate holder botch up ,looks like some last minute scrap heap challenge bodge up . Another example of motorcycle manufacturers ,employing too many computer gamer nerds ,in their design departments . These type of bikes are for ,carrying humungous pie, burger & burrito munchers ,down long straight wide USA high ways ,not U.K. roads . To class this as a locomotive ,would be more nearer the mark . I won’t be opening my wallet for one of these anytime ever. 👍
Yep it is indeed... Qianjiang (who sold motorcycle with Keeway, QJmotor, Benelli and MBP Moto brands). Definatly passing on this one, not least because it has looks only a mother could love
Big name motorcycling manufacturers ,all source at least some components ,engines & even full motorcycles manufactured in Chinese factories . Companies such as Honda , Suzuki , Yamaha ,BMW , KTM & many others . The chances are the motorcycle you ride now ,if built in the last 20 years ,will possibly contain some components ,sourced from Chinese factory’s . The top Chinese motorcycle factories, have the latest tech & modern machinery to build to any standard of build quality & price point ,required by the customer, or these big name motorcycle company’s wouldn’t risk their reputations ,by using Chinese factory’s .
Looks like a Yamaha road star warrior, knock off and sounds like it's got a Yamaha bolt engine. Take note that this is what happens when you use third world communist countries to manufacturer cheap components so you can rip off your first world customers with high profit margins. The Chinese take all the old components they used to manufacturer for the first world and build cheaper, undercutting products and eventually put the competition out of business.
If this weather becomes the norm, motorcycle apparel with be like a scuba diving suit with the ce protection pads. 😎
If you live in the plains of the dairy belt, get the heaviest bike you can get, the winds, already strong, will turn into permanent hurricanes 😢. I see that coming when biking could become an untenable proposition.
snorkel anyone ?
Not my cup of tea but what i do like is the refreshingly different looking bikes coming out of China.
Great review, thank you.
I am a former cruiser rider and have owned 3 1100 cruisers in the past. I would be concerned about that exhaust touching down on right handers. I despise that rear end set up. If I was in the market for another cruiser, I am afraid that this wouldn't be on my list.
Let's see how it looks in 18 months time...I know Chinese bikes are coming on and lots of big name bikes are produced there but I'm still on the fence about quality control
I think that they are improving. I remember when they used to be sold in the packing case! Usually with parts missing!
Challenging weather, challenging bike but you put yourself through it for our viewing pleasure, you bring your videos to life with your enthusiasm and commentary and, by the way, your singing on Yorkgate.
Andy
Cheers Andy it was a pretty depressing ride 😂
A very interesting motorcycle, and certainly very nice looking, and if I could still ride big cruiser bikes, I’d certainly consider a test day on it. Who knows, it might even become a popular option! Sadly my days of huge cruiser rides are over due to age and health, also I don’t do the mileage that it’s obviously designed for any more. I have found in recent times that an open mind when considering far east motorcycles is something that can reveal pleasant surprises rather than negative. Remember when people were anti-Japanese? Anyway, thanks for riding this and showing it off, I’m sure it was beneficial to a few prospective buyers.
An interesting bike for sure, to my eye it looks really rather nice, but sounds a bit like a food mixer. Without wanting to upset the RE crowd, nothing that firm currently makes really appeals to me; but where we have an eastern manufacturer stepping into the bigger bike market perhaps others will follow. I think your comments (and other comments here) are right that this is going for the ‘big cruiser enthusiast’ market, but that such riders are more likely to spend their cash on an older bike from an established maker. Heck, I get the impression that the BMW R18 (which I like the look of) struggles to make headway with the American V-twin sector, so a Chinese firm has it’s work cut out…
The condition of our roads are just as bad as the weather. Thanks for the review interesting bike.
I went through a Harley phase for almost 20 years, owned 4 of them. Nothing inherently choppy with a belt drive, very smooth on the HDs. Not my cup of tea these days, and I much prefer my modern classics.
I'm not into cruisers, but I actually like this! I guess the steering wasn't helped by the cold wet roads? An excellent review in awful conditions! I like the way you take your time to cover every aspect of the bike, very enjoyable and great viewing in a stunning part of our country, many thanks, Dennis.
Good Morning Dave , yet again another great review on this bike , i saw Dickie mint ride this bike & he was scraping the silencer on right handers, take care & ride safe
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I quite like it. If I was looking for a big cruiser I'd give it a go.
I can see that it belongs on the open roads of the US and not on the squiggles. It is a piece of art and well thought out. I'm your size and age and have never ridden a large cruiser. I can see that the priceing could appeal to the masses that can't afford the HD or Indians. I would rather have the Super Meteor for it's simplicity and light weight factor. The massive weight would be a plus on windy days., and track rain tires a plus if extreme rain days persist. Lol. 👍👍5🏍🙋♂️
Hey thanks for the introduction to this bike. Here in Canada we have a LOT of country to cover on a motorbike.( It takes 30 hours just to drive thru my province of Ontario) . Big cruisers are almost a necessity here if you're a pavement rider. Having said that I'm not sure if too many people here would trust a Chinese made bike especially in the Midwest just because of the lack of spare parts available. This bike isn't bad looking really, it reminds me of an Indian Scout, but I'd opt for a used Kawasaki Vulcan or a Yamaha V-star knowing that they're reliable enough to ride 5 days away from home.
People talking about climate change should investigate the history of the planet to discover how much climate has changed through the years, with or without humans on it. Not saying we dont have an impact, ofcourse we do. But none of the measures governments take are any real solution but just designed to fill their pockets. The only real solution is to no longer live in a consumption based society, to not longer strive for economic growth and to all go back to living simple lives in wooden huts and farming our own food. Are we willing to do that? no. Thats the end of the discussion for me.
It’s all about money
What a know nothing attitude.
I’d love a hut and some land to grow some turnips 😂
Agreed with everything.As soon as public showed interest,all the green vultures came flying in.
Since we don’t all use coal nor coke (and I remember all the soot on the buildings) how can it be getting worse? Where are the pea souper smogs ? Yet no two strokes, and the remedy:-green diesel, and engines twice the size they used to be.
Meanwhile, in Perth, Western Australia we haven’t seen any rain for 6 months. Garden is dying but I don’t care when I’m out on the Ducati.
morning Dave, did you know, that when it rains in the UK, the rain first comes out as snow then melts on the way down. And that is through out the year due to our temperate zone on the planet 😆
A lot of riders get a right slagging off for being a fair weather biker. But that ride just looked uncomfortable and stressful. Good video though 👍
riding in the freezing cold and rain has never been fun.as i get older it gets worse.
Looks or rather the lack of them ,it's more of a of a Indian/rocket 3 vibe than full fat harley. At the end of the day it's a want to be ,can't see me chopping my shovelhead in for one.
Morning Dave, Iike yourself I’m not a lover of cruiser style bikes but it does look like it’s been bolted together nicely. The only other review of this bike was from ‘Tins on Tour’ channel and Shaun really rated it. Carry on that man Caio for now tat ta 👍🏻
Usually reviewers say that belt drive is less snatchy than chain?
Loved the Mongolian throat singing going along that road!
Both the bike and the weather had much room for improvement 😂
Morning Dave. That thing needs its own postcode. 😮
Morning Dave. Not my thing but looks quite capable. Agree that us smaller channels can’t get press bikes, hence why a certain ex policeman from the Hull area, thinks we shouldn’t be believed when it comes to our opinions, even though we review and ride at the same time, giving the true emotions we feel at THAT moment in time. 😂
Yes I saw that….a bit smug and patronising and very unfair of him….he didn’t manage his 30 years of service….odd that 😂
If it rained everyday, I'd buy a GS1200 and some good rain gear. Cheers!
Keeways are known to rust in other models within a week in the rain.
That looks like is a real Pub car park crowd pleaser. However The "Who's it for" Question you raised sums it up nicely. Given the propensity for motorcyclist snobbery, the cruiser lovers would most likely not settle for the Harley or at a pinch Indian Chinese "Copy" they would probably rather spend the 10 grand on a decent used "Hog". I hope I'm wrong in a way because I would love to see one out in the wild this riding season.
On your recommendation I visited Appleyards in "sunny" Keighley yesterday and very impressed I was to , proper old school dealership, I saw the MBP C1002 sat outside the dealer, it's not my kind of bike however as I'd never seen one before I had a good look at it, first thing I noted is just how low the seat height was, way to low for me, on the positive side the build quality was excellent and as far as cruisers go it's not a bad looking machine .
I live in Slawit in Huddersfield and the roads you ride on always look really familiar. With regards to this bike, I can't honestly see them selling that many, as like you say, who is it aimed at. Personally I think it's really ugly, it's a relatively unknown brand and we know very little about its reliability in the long term or how available parts will be 5 to 10 years down the line.
Apart from anything else, if you want a cruiser like a Harley, another Chinese motorcycle company; Shineray, have acquired the rights to build an exact copy of the original Sportster and from what I have seen online, it looks and sounds more or less exactly the same as the original HD bike.
Maybe if you could put some straight thru pipes on this MBP C1002 V it might sound and ride more like what you expect from a cruiser but like the old saying goes: 'You can cover a turd in chocolate, but at the end of the day it's still a turd underneath'. And sadly mate, this bike is a big turd. Oh and one last point: it's called the 1002, yet it's only 997cc. What's the deal there.
Be reet lad...................
Love the look of the MBP. Unfortunately we're seeing none of these larger capacity chinese cruisers in Oz and the offerings from the japanese manufacturers are extremely limited and uninspiring. Triumph and Harley are too expensive nowadays BSA isn't available here so that just leaves Royal Enfield 😁
Deffo not a Uk bike, well not north of Watford Gap anyway. Can you imagine trying to get it though some of the Yorkshire, Cumbrian or Scottish passes, it would have to have outriggers to avoid dropping. Good review Dave, your honest diplomacy does you proud.
Yes my friend. I too am sick to my back teeth of this weather - the rain is incessant with no real end in site. Being retired I thought I might have a ride tomorrow - but maybe more rain!!!🫣🥴☹️☹️
Too wet to even cut the grass.
Come sunny sunshine - please come out to play. 🤞🤞🤞🤞
I appreciate the bike isn’t your cup of tea but as a cruiser it is not a big bike - not when you consider Triumph have a 2500cc, Harley and Indian go up to around 2000cc and so on. The price is very attractive - however the proof in the pudding is durability build wise and ability to have it serviced throughout its existence. Personally I like the looks though it wouldn’t be my choice of weapon to meander along the back lanes of Yorkshire and beyond - but hey - is a GS 1300 a better??
I must admit I have some misgivings about Chinese motorcycles, but one thing I do like is that some of them actually have belt drive. The traditional manufacturers all seem to fear that Harley-Davidson or BMW will have them shot, if they ever try anything other than the usual, miserable chain drive. It would be great if the Chinese could convince them to offer more than just chains, chains and more chains.
Couldn't agree with you more on chain drive. Why is that even a thing on bikes being sold in 2024? If you're like me (or Freddie Dobbs) you have neither the time, inclination or personal off-street parking / garage space to contemplate maintaining that mess. Cheers
Didn’t know Appleyards are part of MotoGB. Just assumed it was still part of the Colin Appleyard group. Learn something every day 🤔lol.
Yes Moto GB since January 2023
Yea, I actually googled it. As I remember, Colin Appleyard was a big BMW motorcycle dealer. ( I guess you had purchased from them?).
I am not the only one then, fed-up with the rain. You wait hose pipe ban this this summer. Nice big cruiser.
The only heavy-weight cruiser that appeals to me is the Triumph Rocket lll R. Nick
I wonder if the Chinese designers might have been looking at the Ducati Diavel for inspiration. Albeit a 1,000cc version at a fraction of the US$27k pricetag. Wishful thinking?
I saw that bike at the NEC last November and I did like the cruiser styling of it but not its weight and length. I agree with you, it’s not built for Yorkshire’s lanes. Style 👍 pricing 👍 but weight and handling 👎. Good review. Maybe your next review should be for a rowboat in that weather..🤣🤣🤣
A dinghy is on the list Nick! 😂
Not my style of bike, but I think it'd be ok in North America and on the predominantly straight roads that we have here in Australia. The 5-year warranty is an interesting development, as, if sales are reasonable, it will force other manufacturers to increase their warranty; not before time, frankly.
I bought a VN1500 Suzuki about 15 years ago but although a nice looking bike i just couldn't get on with its feet forward and cruiser style and have never had another cruiser since. You tried hard to love it and I'm sure some will but its not for me.
I’ll stick with my 996cc Ducati for now.. I’ve got to get some life out of it - it’s only done 10k miles so far since new in 2006. This does look like a decent bike though. If i was in the market for a new cruiser I’d give this a look-in though 😅
Have to agree with ya on the exhaust it does seems overly lol war like you'll never forget they're there...... should we call the pipes industrial? I do like the spine of it the tank and seat blending together.... thank you Dave...
Goddamn it Dave you must lick it ahhhhhh
Those big cruisers are for blasting down highways i wouldnt fancy trying some of those steep dog legs in the peaks.
Purchase price £10K , Trade in price 12 months later £3K !! 😊 ( If you're lucky )
A second hand Harley would be a much better option. Cheaper and less depreciation.
@@haxan6663 I bought a 2010 triumph thunderbird 1600 a year ago. Still looks like new and not had a single issue with it (touch wood). Would probably get near enough what I paid for it if I sold it on now.
Had a few harleys but may try one of these. Good price point. Decent reviews so far.
That size of lard arsed cruiser isn't for me ,too long and bulky, it is nicely styled though , the Chinese are getting good at stylish looking bikes, my missus has a Zontes GK125, and it's a cracking looking 125 , and the riders view is similar to this obviously with a slimmer tank 😆,
As for the build quality I wouldn't have any worries, my wife's Zontes is ridden in all weather and it's holding up fine , it's even got stainless steel spokes on tubeless rims , and a full stainless exhaust, so I'd think the build quality on this cruiser should be fine especially as it's a lot more money.
But yeah, as someone else has said the Enfield super meteor would be my choice for a cruiser, or the Shotgun for a more roadster style .
Interesting bike and review though Dave , as for this bloody weather, well it's one of the reasons I ride my Classic 350 a lot more than my other bikes, the mudgaurds actually work and keep the bike very clean! and being the dark version I don't have any polishing to do ! 😅
Cheers Mel 🍻
Looks good.I like Harleys looks better but they are way way overprised.These Mbp's may be more reliable ??
With weights and dimensions in Goldwing territory, it would be a good marker for somebody who has neither bike to know your thoughts/score comparison please?
I had a 2013 Goldwing, rode it all over Europe but the insane weight was ALWAYS there waiting to bite you in the ass. I never dropped it but everyone else who rode it did. Finally despite being an excellent bike, I found it boring 😆
Edit, at 262kg, it's a lightweight! My Goldwing was 390kg and my current Harley Springer Classic still feels light at 320kg.
Needs a screen I see the brackets for one.
Good appraisal once again, Dave. You've covered all the basics, as far as I'm concerned, and anything you might have omitted can easily be sourced with a bit of effort by an interested party. Your pros certainly appear to outweigh the cons.
You are correct though. This machine is for parched, arrow straight highways with cloudless blue skies, cactus strewn desert on either side and not really for roads that are soaking wet, littered with potholes and meander all over the place. However, having said that, there'll be those here in the UK who might find this machine of interest and if so, after suitable research, they should go for it if it still piques their desires. Who cares what the snobs think.
Already, I can hear the high horse attitude of Harley and Indian owners sniggering and sneering at such a machine, though.
Oh dear.
Good one mate. 👍
Hi Dave, does it have ABS breaking system? What are service intervals? What accessories are available, I.e. luggage for touring etc? How many dealerships for servicing? You need to mention these touring items. Cheers. Biker John.
With the greatest of respect, why can't you obtain the desired data for yourself? If you were genuinely interested in 'a' bike, you'd test ride it yourself, wouldn't you,..... or would you get someone to do that for you? 🙄
@@markfranks1329Clever remarks. Then, why do you watch these kind of videos at all?
@@lowersaxon Oh my! My comment obviously went straight in one ear and out the other, didn't it?
Let me help you out: What has getting off your backside and doing something for yourself have anything to do with watching one of Dave's videos?
Take your time. 🙄
Bosch ABS ..
Belt drive smoothes out snatchy drive trains especially with HD Sportsters, which used to eat chains and sprockets in the old days. The Chinese EVOLUTION Sportster can be serviced by any HD dealership or any independent shop . Parts supply is excellent and custom parts and engine hop up stuff out the wazoo. Big rear tires are out of fashion and very expensive and wear out the same as normal size tires.
Great review and beautiful country side. Thank's
Funny how folks have different preferences. Reminds me of Yamaha VMAX. It really is a value because even Honda Rebel 1100 has less features for more money and Honda has 2 year warranty.
good weather here today and im off out
Horses for courses I suppose. Big chunk, no my cup of tea ☕ neither yours bw, love the humour keep it coming 🎉
Humour keeps me sane Martine that’s for sure glad you don’t like the bike 😂👍🏻❤️
I must say I’d like to give a belt drive a go to see what they are like. However most are on cruisers which are not my thing. Sometimes you don’t have to say anything but let the video do the talking.
You obviously weren’t happy but the weather did not help. Whether it will take off will be down to the Harley / Indian riders that may be tempted but they tend to be very brand loyal so I can’t see it doing very well. However each to their own and if you can’t afford the US brands it may just find some buyers. I think it’s a bit too big for the small country roads but may get some buyers from the Highway guys.Personally I think it’ll be as rare as hens teeth.
It was a pretty miserable day all round tbh pal 😂
I love belt drive on my Harley, virtually no maintenance and smooth and light compared to shaft drive
Morning Dave good review of this Chinese monstrosity yes it might look quite nice bike and price seems good with 5 yr warranty but very sceptical of Chinese quality I haven’t heard much really about Chinese but the price perhaps reflects that but I’ll stick to triumph I’ve had 2 triumphs and can’t fault them ride safe
IT WILL BE THE RESALE THAT WILL STING
It’s only 20kg heavier then the RE super meteor.
Not bad for double the power of the Enfield
I’m am shocked that this is the first belt drive motorcycle you’ve ridden. The heavy cruisers are not for everyone for sure. I wonder if this bike will sale?
the belt drive has a little [[ give ]] to help with transmission snatch ;; even eddie knows that ;;; ha . ha .
Competes with the Ducati Diavel perhaps.
Honestly? This thing looks pretty awesome lol I'm into it
Beautiful bike! Id love to have that in my stable but it's absolutely laughable that any pom can think they can execute a good bike review with your ridiculous weather conditions🤣
Brit bikers are way tougher mate, a few spots of rain doesn't scare us.
Hi Dave great vid as always love them bikes but not for me love my intersepter n yam mto7 for a bimble 👏👍🤜🤛
Looks good to me!
It looks to me like a maxi scooter that's been turned into a cruiser.
I bought a Midnight Star 650 cruiser and I sold 341 miles later. Awful , I really don't know why anyone in the UK would want one.
Lovely looking bike Dave 🏍👍🇬🇧🙂
That ridiculous fatboy rear tyre will make cornering a challenge. A more sensible width woud improve the handling the looks and might entice a few Harley sportster riders to upgrade. 😅😅😅
Those exhaust pipes are gonna scrape on right bends
It wouldn’t be a power cruiser if it wasn’t low and didn’t scrape..!! What would you expect?
They should have called it a Bwrough.
Subtitles please 👍👍👍
Looks nice. You found the worst place to park. 😂😂😂
i find it very interesting to look at , not pretty sort of mad max ish . ps bring back climate warming it was better than changing .
How many people spotted that. Fuck the cold and rain.
My bike has tires with chubes.
Taylor Daniel Thompson Jose Martin Jessica
Just bought an Indian chief and wouldn’t even consider Chinese junk hardly any pedigree Indian are older than Harley by one year.
I wouldn’t be seen dead on an overpriced style over substance Indian 👍🏻
Sorry mate, it's only a motorcycle a mother could love...not me cup of tea..
That bike has no character whatsoever, what a bloody monstrosity!
Owdoo…..😂👍🇬🇧
I wouldn’t see a Power cruiser as a wannabe Harley…A wannabe Indian maybe😁…
no manufacturers want to be Harley right now :)))). looks more like Vmax- Vrod want a be .
I suppose it’s not a bad effort as far as cruiser bikes go, even though it’s a monstrosity just like the Harley’s. I don’t get that tacky bitza rear mudguard come reg plate holder botch up ,looks like some last minute scrap heap challenge bodge up . Another example of motorcycle manufacturers ,employing too many computer gamer nerds ,in their design departments . These type of bikes are for ,carrying humungous pie, burger & burrito munchers ,down long straight wide USA high ways ,not U.K. roads . To class this as a locomotive ,would be more nearer the mark . I won’t be opening my wallet for one of these anytime ever. 👍
I pretty much hate everything about it.
Looks like they just copied the looks of the Yamaha Warrior
MEH, Chinese.
Yep it is indeed... Qianjiang (who sold motorcycle with Keeway, QJmotor, Benelli and MBP Moto brands).
Definatly passing on this one, not least because it has looks only a mother could love
Big name motorcycling manufacturers ,all source at least some components ,engines & even full motorcycles manufactured in Chinese factories . Companies such as Honda , Suzuki , Yamaha ,BMW , KTM & many others . The chances are the motorcycle you ride now ,if built in the last 20 years ,will possibly contain some components ,sourced from Chinese factory’s . The top Chinese motorcycle factories, have the latest tech & modern machinery to build to any standard of build quality & price point ,required by the customer, or these big name motorcycle company’s wouldn’t risk their reputations ,by using Chinese factory’s .
Well put 👍🏻
It looks like Eddie has enough sense to stay inside today.😂😂😂😂
Looks like a Yamaha road star warrior, knock off and sounds like it's got a Yamaha bolt engine.
Take note that this is what happens when you use third world communist countries to manufacturer cheap components so you can rip off your first world customers with high profit margins.
The Chinese take all the old components they used to manufacturer for the first world and build cheaper, undercutting products and eventually put the competition out of business.
So much for cheap bikes from China.😂😂😂😂😂😂