The devs actually refered to March as the mascot though during the special program though id argue most of the nameless kinda are for the game. In-game its probably pompom though im not sure if theyd like being called a mascot 😂
I dunno. Rememberance is probably against memory erasure, since it's whole sthick is preserving memories for when the universal cycle will occur again. I still feel like it's more Mythus of the enigmata, the opposite of the rememberance
i agree with the guy above, erasing memories isnt Remembrance-like, but i also dunno why The Garden of Recollection hindering her when she asked Fu Xuan's help.
Just to add to the conversation, its also possible that taking memories just leaves a void so its not strictly erasure just that the process leaves the target without their memories but it still exists somewhere in the gardens archives or something
I can just see the MihoYo story Dev's just watching this, like how my DM from D&D does when I just spit out stuff while talking about what we want to do. We as a group on several times gave our DM better story hooks. He said "wow I would have never thought about that. This is something I want to add to the world, much better than what I thought up." The story Dev is just giving you a mental thumbs up!
@@qwertyqwert2818 yes,hoyoverse or cognosphere,I'm not sure,handles things internationally.What I'm saying is an individual Dev seeing this post.But idk,I think they're details I'm missing
@@HeppelhopV5 Well, one thing that you're definitely missing is knowing how to put spaces after periods and commas. But really, mihoyo has hundreds of devs under their name and from all around the world too, and they have offices in Montreal, Los Angeles, Tokyo and Seoul too, so for them to NOT have anyone in their dev teams who can't access such "western" social media sites such as youtube or twitter, is VERY unlikely. Heck, how else do you think that their Genshin impact, Honkai Star rail, Honkai Impact and ZZZ accounts even exist for us here? But yea, i can get why you are thinking that the chances of a dev seeing this are low. After all there are lots of videos being made about their games on a daily basis so, it could be hard to keep up with stuff or to stumble onto something like this.
@@1Albedo Damn it,I forgot they have foreign branches for localisation and business stuff;Though I think the actual core game development happens in China.I think the best way to get daddy hoyo to hear us is to use official channels like surveys ,their website,reviews and whatever
I think during the ending scene of the reconstruction of the theme park, Black Swan says that she knew one of the Memokeepers liked to take pictures to preserve its memory (or smth along those lines)
They’ve been saying from the start that there were TWO memokeepers in penacony. One is BS but we’ve never met the other one. I totally believe she is indeed the other memokeeper
Thats true, this might be a hint that its March given BS says there are 2 memokeepers on penacony. Im still partial to the remembrance being involved here in any case since too many members have had run-ins with march by this point
This theory is definitely interesting but there is definitely more clues pointing to her being related to the garden. A memokeeper that blackswan use to know who uses a camera to preserve memories, oneric symbol that march and blackswan have, and the involvement with the garden. Also a theory I saw on a hoyolab about that fulfi made the original script for the stellaron hunters but it also talks about march 7th past, how she was supposed to guide the express while in the ice and the six-phased ice being the same “crystal” that fulfi had. Looking at the photo of march when trapped in the ice I could definitely seen the similarities between fulfi’s “crystal” and march 7th six phased ice.
I agree in general, personally I'm still leaning more towards the remembrance being the party behind March's past given they have had more of a consistent run-in with her even during her companion quest. Even in my previous video I mentioned that March herself says in her lore that she doesnt feel her abilities are ice-related but rather crystalline in nature which unsurprisingly is what fuli appears as
I remember Blackswan once mentioned about memokeeper that always carry camera around to conceal memory. But Ids abt it, since I forgot when she said it.
Wait, I Actually love this theory. Perhaps the reason March's memories were sealed is precisely because she became very strong, an emanator of Enigmata maybe (the whole rating pistol thing adds). And the garden of recollection made her forget her true powers because she was becoming a threat to the truth of the universe. Perhaps she was so strong that she was rewriting the memories of the universe as a whole. Perhaps some of the stories we know about hsr universe were invented by her and never existed to begin with... Gosh, so many things in my head right now 😂😂
I think of Enigmata as tinder, fuel, and spark. The fire would be the moment. And the ashes would be the rememberence and memories. Love mysterious characters like march 7th and the lord of silence, Polka Kakamond.
I cannot wait until we get an erudition story and learn more about Polka Kakamond. I'll rush a video out as soon as that happens because I'm really intrigued by her super mysterious backstory
I my opinion Fuli power is directly contradicts with Enigmata . Fuli who’s forgo the future to embrace the past while Enigmata destroy the past to create the future . In March7 case I think she is the link between the both of them and maybe just maybe she is the aeon born from both of them .
Their powers do seem to contradict one another though in the lore (i forget where exactly I think in the SU stuff) mythus is said to oppose erudition as one seeks to know everything while the other seeks to obscure it
What an interesting theory! I believe in the connection between March and Rememberance, but I also like the idea of March being fictionalogist like Gallagher. It could be an absolute heartbreaking twist, if March regains her memories during some epic events, saves everyone and then disappears like Gallagher. It could be an emotional disaster plottwist)) But, in the end of the day, I definitely prefer happy endings where everyone stays alive, happy and with hope))
interesting theory i could see it one thing that could be interesting is we are assuming it was a garden of recollection person guarding marches memories but what if was actually another follower of enigmata who was pretending to be a member of the garden would fit in with their style of telling lies and erasing memories for the greater good
What a fascinating theory! And a well-put one! This also reminds me of the time we first met mythus in GnG SU, he first disguised as Fuli, similar to how March is painted as being from the remembrance when she might be from the enigmata.
Oh I completely forgot about that, I remembered how the MC described seeing mythus but not that it initially appeared as Fuli. Pair that with the fact that we know Mythus was born within Fuli's realm (or claimed to have been) maybe they are far more connected than we initially thought
To give my own two cents and a bit of a crack theory March might have some point in the past have encountered something she shouldn't have or to say the least something interesting enough to the point of the garden of Recollection took her memories
march, is, idrilla. idrilla had a romance with fuli and fuli helped her escape the death she knew her path was coming to by locking away her memory's and making her into march
I'm of the opinion that she's Idrilla and the reason why Fuli wants to keep her old memories sealed away is implied by her photography hobby. I think Beauty has a connection with the poetic Sublime but Idrilla wants to make and spread beauty to the cosmos, not just in a transient moment, and so tries to make a more permanent method to keep beauty last longer, but this makes Beauty overlap with Remembrance. Fuli, aware of what happens when Paths overlap and not wanting to be absorbed into Idrilla or absorb her Path, since Fuli needs memories of beauty in his universe restoration project and he's the one focused on said project, decides to do a third option. Keep Idrilla alive but without her memories and hopefully something else would lead her Path away from his, thus keeping both Aeons alive, hence why the Garden supports the Express in this manner.
This may be a dumb theory but did anyone notice that March technique and the hunt in the su is the same,i know that hoyo may use the same animation for these two but if not is this a coincidence?
My personal theory is that march is either secretly (and unknowingly) an emenator of the enigmata, or mythus themselves, or even some sort of anchor for myths to affect the real world. It could also be interesting if mythus and fuli need each other to exist, or they both die. As such, both of them would have an interest in keeping march in the dark, lest she dissappear a "virtual being" would. On top of that, the imagery linking to the remembrance could be red herrings planted by the two memory aeons to divert people who want to find the truth about march's identity attention away from the enigmata and towards the remembrance.
My theory with March is she is kind of like the MC where she is an anomaly in the timeline that we are in now. It goes like this... There are timelines before where the whole universe gets destroyed by Nanook and then Fuli resets it in a specific time. Every time Nanook destroys a timeline Fuli resets it, but by doing this again and again Fuli starts to become weak. In the last timeline, Fuli created a separate entity with all of her (or his) memories from that timeline and encased it in that layers of ice where March is in and it is protected from the reset of Fuli. That entity took a human form, March. Fuli did a last reset leading to our current timeline and now there is March with all the memories of the previous timeline floating around in space. As for the MC, referencing to a video of yours where Elio was blessed by Terminus, in this timeline, he planned to raise the MC so that the MC will be the one to challenge Nanook changing the fate of the universe. However, Elio does not actually know how they can stop Nanook since he has no information on how Nanook will do the destruction thing. What he can think of is gathering all the stellaron and then launching all of them (probably) to Nanook. This could be his action in the last timeline and it failed. Now here comes the combination of MC and March. MC is the one raised to confront Nanook, and March comes with all the knowledge on how Nanook destroys things, along with the knowledge on how to defeat Nanook. Elio did not know who March is (proof is the ending credit scene where March's supposed real name is ???). I can imagine a scene around the end where we are working together with the stellaron hunters, and probably everyone that we met along the way, to defeat Nanook. Elio runs out of script because he does not know how to confront Nanook, March is always out of his script because he does not know who she is. Suddenly March remembers everything. Well, she will gradually remember things as we progress in the story, but now she remembers why she was created, why she is there, why she has different powers (related to her "forms"), things like that. She talks to everyone and they are now able to come up with a plan to defeat Nanook. Sorry for the long comment.
- Thanks to Gallagher in 2.2 story, we can have good idea on what kind of power enigmata bring to their follower/pathstrider/emanator, to me Enigmata power fall somewhere between Elation and Remembrance but leaning more toward Remembrance in a sense. - While i think your theory is quite interesting but i think her new power which will be reveal in this year will be from her new real memory not from creating fake memory so i'm still firmly believe in March origin have something to do with Remembrance and the garden or recollection, either directly or indirectly - Due to how little info with have about her origin so it just hard to speculate anything, anything is guessing at this point so let me add the discussion with my own guess: -> March might be an ancient race that have deep tie with Remembrance in general. My basis for this guess is: + We have already seen a few humanlike race already so not weird for another one to appear + Powerful race in hsr exist as well, which we already have a few example so i won't list them out here => March race might be a human like race but with the ability to turn their memories into their strength or atleast their power relate to memory in someway which can explain somewhat about their relationship to Remembrance and Garden of recollection. => Something must have happen to them and March could be the last of her kind and before she drift in space, someone or herself must made a deal with Garden of Recollection to seal her memories away. That basically is my guess, you can fill in the detail as you like - The honkai writer love to made you overthink so March origin might be obvious since the start but we just overthink it
I actually think she is that pink haired navigator of the express we have seen in the cosmodyssey event this is why she only started to melt once she was in the express again and she will probably get new powers based on the planets she trailblazed
fuli is definitly watching over march and shielding her from her past or at least has gotten the memokeepers to watch over her and protect her from her past for now whatever the reason it is must be pretty traumatic stuff if they dont want her to know yet.
I am strong believer that in swarm disaster Ena, Tazziront and Idrila were made into harmony by Klipoth. So I don't think that she is beauty eon related, but rememberance connection is strong.
Getting more powerful from memories is something that characters basically already do in game, because a light cone is also basically a container for memories right? though that might just be game design reasons, I wonder if there is any lore behind that.
@@PhongNguyen-gy2rg there gods, aha made a worm into an emanator and you think two aeons possible being able to collab and coalesce energy's into making a child would be out the question?
What if march came from glamoth or maybe she is Titania herself? Because it's pretty odd that the garden recollection really forcing us to never remember her past like a super taboo thing. This is really reminding me of the penacony tyrant side quest where we can make the choice to tell the truth or giving a beautiful lie instead
One thing that can link Enigmata and Rembrance is shown from the Clockie cartoons where the truth is actively hidden in cartoons in order for it to be remembered as an allegory. Mythos isn't about erasing history it's about hiding it so that it can be protected, so that the victor can not rewrite history to their liking. It's another way to preserve history.
Her Color scheme is closest to that of The Finality. quite possible the aeon who sealed her memories did so, to seal her power. she may have even requested it so that she could move forward thru time instead of backwards. across the different end credits for penacony more and more ??? identities were revealed, and by the current end only March 7th's actress name remains a ???.
Wait, is Black Swan even stated to be an Emanater? Cause if not, maybe the ability to turn memories to powers, instead of LCs, may be the power of an Emanater alone. And if Black Swan is an Emanater, Emanators should be able to "create" specialised abilities for their use, right? And if March is a Fictionologist, the same concept can be applied, with not everyone utilising the same methods to obtain power. Cause for Gallagher, he maintains his power by not exposing his true identity. But what about gaining even more power? What if instead of destroying the obtained memories outright, they are able to absorb the ones they personally have ties to? Because if they don't have a way to gain more power, they'll essentially be nothing more than the average human after a while.
My personal headcanon crack theory: March is Akivili Alright, let me cook. Long time ago, Akivili as an aeon of trailblaze have reached his last destination. He already journeyed through the entire universe. But what is an aeon of trailblaze without trailblazing? Isn't finishing the goal basically killing the aeon themselves? So in order to maintain the path of trailblazing, akivili disband the astral express and made an exchange with fuli the remembrance. Fuli would erase the memory of akivili and put him in an ice. The ice could only be melted if the spirit of trailblaze is come back to life. Thus making march's ice imediately melted when it brought into the express This way, akivili could relive the journey of trailblazing once again. Fuli helped him in exchange for akivili's memory during the whole journey. My theory explains why March has a lot of association with remembrance and astral express. Also garden of recollection tries to hide her past because it's part of the contract. Thank you for listening to my ted talk
Another possibility: in her past, March received the gaze of IX, and the Memokeepers excised that experience before she could become a full Self-Annihlator. She can have a (relatively) normal future so long as she doesn't reconnect with her brush with IX. Just a crack theory on my part; not a whole lot to back it up. 🙂
I mean if Acheron is anything to go by, self annihilators sometimes suffer memory loss while retaining humanity. Perhaps unknown to her she IS a self annihilator, but through her complete loss of the memory of that fact she managed to oopsie her way out of it, and is no longer associated with IX
There is nothing you can do to convince me she isn’t a memo keeper of the garden of recollection or an emanator of the remembrance there have been numerous subtle and big noticeable hints. First of all her companion quest she can’t go to see her origin because a memokeeper erased her memory number 2 we have heard from black swan that there was once a memokeeper who used a camera to collect/hold memories and that sounds a lot like march and number 3 as of the end of the 2.3 story quest we see black swan a memokeeper walk out of march’s room she could have come out of any room Dan Hengs Himekos or welts but she came out with of March’s room coincidence I think not
If i had to play same game as you as devils advocate, i will suspect march to be related into fuli more extreme faction. The cremator instead. Unlike fictionologist, who corrupting the fact, cremator directly destroying memories leaving nothing, if they deem memory had to be destroyed. Perhaps she purge her own memory as the cremator as self defense while frozen by the ice. Or some cremator erasing her memmory while protect herself in ice.
Checking the 2.1 Livestream, they actually say that March "留下" which is leaves, keeps or take a memory and not "创造”which is creating a memory. So the translation had a small error.
I think the Fictionologists gain power from being walking contradictions, and that's why they lose power as you learn more about them. On a quantum level, they're a superposition of contradictory ideas/identities, and learning more about them serves as a quantum observation and causes the superposition waveform to collapse. After this, the Fictionologist could have a critical existence failure.
You know im glad you brought up quantum mechanics because (going off on a tangent here) I've wanted to make a video about how each aeon could functionally be a quantum particle or something within quantum mechanics. Nanook is entropy, terminus is a tachyon, mythus is the uncertainty principle, IX is a black hole. But going back to what you mentioned it does bring up a rather curious question of what would happen if we learnt everything about mythus, would it cease to exist?
Maybe March is the last thoughts, feelings, and dreams of a planet that got wiped out. Though a lot of info that we have seems to put a thorn in this sort of thought.
maybe March is a collection of wills from the people of the planet Nanook was from given form by the enigmata... the collective will to survive the destruction.. and because of the memories of a whole planet inside one person is too much, Fuli erased it.
The Enigmata theory is really cool, but I think your points putting holes in it are exactly correct. The Remembrance path makes a lot more sense to me, March's story feels very much like "being with too much power was sealed away". That says to me she's either an Emanator of an opposing path or someone important to the Garden of Recollection whose existence has to be hidden. Also, if what the devs said is accurate, it could also support March being a memetic entity capable of change/evolution, and perhaps that's aberrant among the Garden.
Yeah when I was coming up with this I couldnt help disprove those holes in the theory and why im still leaning a bit more towards remembrance at the moment
Crack theory: Since we got some leaks on what Elio looks like, one day i was doing my usual things then i thought "What if March was Related to Elio/The Finality?"
My theory on what hoyo meant is she will create unique light cones(memories) by using her camera and taking photos from different places. The LC will give her different abilities and she will be the first character to have a remembrance path so that only she can use the light cones. Did I cook?
I really liked this video, all of the points and possibilities you mentioned really seem possible in my opinion! ✩ Also the thing about her possibly being somehow linked with the remembrance made me think back to how in the simulated universe, the path of Remembrance is associated with effects such a freezing enemies, lowering their effect res and all that stuff. It really makes it seem like March is the one character who can make most of it and gain most benefit from blessings of remembrance (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.) This would of course be hinting more strongly at her possibly having to do something with the remembrance, but this is also just my speculation (•‿•) I cannot wait till we get to see her possible new form, thank you for this great video and i wish to see more in the future!! ✮
I'm surprise you didn't bring the fact that... on march's companion quest there's a point where she gets 2... or 3? (can remember exactly) "theorized" past, I remember one was 'arlan' from march's memory that said she was like a princess and march replied "wait this is some of my fanfiction I made from my past" which I think it was more like a nod to superman, but that's what I thought until now we know a little bit more of enigmata and history fictionologyst
If she’s not remembrance/memokeeper ( I think she is, maybe a physical one as all other memokeepers are non-corporeal beings) then I think she might be a Creamator the rogue agents who destroy memories
Memory Herta hinted that March lost her authority as an Aeon. And Fu Xuan came to the conclusion that Fuli is probably the one who sealed her memories, not to harm, but to protect her. There are many clues in her Story Quest that was pointing to her being an Aeon that lost her powers.
What I find weird is that the Rememberence, which is all about preserving memories, is actively discouraging March to remember her past. That's like... so weird.
Either they want to keep her memories (because they have it) or they were forced into that situation (someone else removed it but tasked them with ensuring March doesnt regain them)
argentis reaction seemed more like a girl starved guy seing a girl again and being awkward... not like there is anything deeper.. i rather suspect that march 7ths future upgrades will revolve about remembering actions and repeating it.. consider a double acheron ultimate cuz march took a photo and made remembrance a reality...
Oh thats an interesting take which might meld both abilities of remembrance and fictionologist abilities like how bonnie can use distorted future to manifest an alternate version of a possible future
Acheron has memory issues because she's a self annihilator, same reason she can taste things and why all her colour leaves her sometimes March doesn't have any such issues and her memories aren't being consistently forgotten like Acheron's are
I'll do you one better, I wanted to make one about how firefly and the trailblazer might be related and that when they created the traiblazer (they are an artificial creation) they partly used fireflies DNA. Thats why shes so attached to them and why they both have grey-ish hair 😂
Ill turn the theory on you. You have the wrong idea about how memories work. Memories isnt something that you just have, memories are something you have to create. The human mind isnt really designed to remember, its designed to forget. Try remember what you ate on the first thursday of february this year. You probably cant do that, only people with photographic memory can remember because they got issues with the function that make us forget things. If one want to have a memory of something, you have to either repeat it several times, or you have to make it memorable. Funnily, because of this you can also create fake memories. So in a way, fiction and memory are very similar. Both can create things but fiction will always be a lie, unlike memory which can be both true or false, or a blurred version of both, depending on the point of view.
"March 7th, the mascot of the Astral Express"
Pom-Pom found dead in a ditch.
Well to play devil’s advocate here,
March 7 is the one to show up as the app icon on IOS( not sure about other platforms) and not Pom-Pom
@MidMoonStar March is the mascot for the game in real life. But we're talking about in-game mascot of the Astral Express.
The devs actually refered to March as the mascot though during the special program though id argue most of the nameless kinda are for the game. In-game its probably pompom though im not sure if theyd like being called a mascot 😂
march 7th cute and can fight and can give you shield
paimon annoying and completely useless
Aeon of Rememberance probably: Nah that light pink haired girl knows my secret let me erase her memory!
Or something guys I'm cooking trust
I dunno. Rememberance is probably against memory erasure, since it's whole sthick is preserving memories for when the universal cycle will occur again. I still feel like it's more Mythus of the enigmata, the opposite of the rememberance
i agree with the guy above, erasing memories isnt Remembrance-like, but i also dunno why The Garden of Recollection hindering her when she asked Fu Xuan's help.
@@w1nther930 maybe they found her memories so interesting they stole then and have kept them for themself
In simulated universe,on aeon of remembrance info thingy,it said white gem pink gem and blue gem,literally march 7th’s hair
Just to add to the conversation, its also possible that taking memories just leaves a void so its not strictly erasure just that the process leaves the target without their memories but it still exists somewhere in the gardens archives or something
I can just see the MihoYo story Dev's just watching this, like how my DM from D&D does when I just spit out stuff while talking about what we want to do. We as a group on several times gave our DM better story hooks. He said "wow I would have never thought about that. This is something I want to add to the world, much better than what I thought up." The story Dev is just giving you a mental thumbs up!
Mihoyo is in china.Can they even access this video
@@HeppelhopV5 You do know that in order to have a global release Mihoyo will have be able to access the ouside world.
@@qwertyqwert2818 yes,hoyoverse or cognosphere,I'm not sure,handles things internationally.What I'm saying is an individual Dev seeing this post.But idk,I think they're details I'm missing
@@HeppelhopV5 Well, one thing that you're definitely missing is knowing how to put spaces after periods and commas.
But really, mihoyo has hundreds of devs under their name and from all around the world too, and they have offices in Montreal, Los Angeles, Tokyo and Seoul too, so for them to NOT have anyone in their dev teams who can't access such "western" social media sites such as youtube or twitter, is VERY unlikely.
Heck, how else do you think that their Genshin impact, Honkai Star rail, Honkai Impact and ZZZ accounts even exist for us here?
But yea, i can get why you are thinking that the chances of a dev seeing this are low. After all there are lots of videos being made about their games on a daily basis so, it could be hard to keep up with stuff or to stumble onto something like this.
@@1Albedo Damn it,I forgot they have foreign branches for localisation and business stuff;Though I think the actual core game development happens in China.I think the best way to get daddy hoyo to hear us is to use official channels like surveys ,their website,reviews and whatever
I think during the ending scene of the reconstruction of the theme park, Black Swan says that she knew one of the Memokeepers liked to take pictures to preserve its memory (or smth along those lines)
she did
They’ve been saying from the start that there were TWO memokeepers in penacony. One is BS but we’ve never met the other one. I totally believe she is indeed the other memokeeper
Thats true, this might be a hint that its March given BS says there are 2 memokeepers on penacony. Im still partial to the remembrance being involved here in any case since too many members have had run-ins with march by this point
fun fact:
march 7th has 67 different stories of how her past life could be
This theory is definitely interesting but there is definitely more clues pointing to her being related to the garden. A memokeeper that blackswan use to know who uses a camera to preserve memories, oneric symbol that march and blackswan have, and the involvement with the garden. Also a theory I saw on a hoyolab about that fulfi made the original script for the stellaron hunters but it also talks about march 7th past, how she was supposed to guide the express while in the ice and the six-phased ice being the same “crystal” that fulfi had. Looking at the photo of march when trapped in the ice I could definitely seen the similarities between fulfi’s “crystal” and march 7th six phased ice.
I agree in general, personally I'm still leaning more towards the remembrance being the party behind March's past given they have had more of a consistent run-in with her even during her companion quest. Even in my previous video I mentioned that March herself says in her lore that she doesnt feel her abilities are ice-related but rather crystalline in nature which unsurprisingly is what fuli appears as
isn't it fuli
@@primarina Yes it’s Fuli. Sometimes Fulli. Definitely no extra f
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I remember Blackswan once mentioned about memokeeper that always carry camera around to conceal memory. But Ids abt it, since I forgot when she said it.
Wait, I Actually love this theory. Perhaps the reason March's memories were sealed is precisely because she became very strong, an emanator of Enigmata maybe (the whole rating pistol thing adds).
And the garden of recollection made her forget her true powers because she was becoming a threat to the truth of the universe.
Perhaps she was so strong that she was rewriting the memories of the universe as a whole. Perhaps some of the stories we know about hsr universe were invented by her and never existed to begin with...
Gosh, so many things in my head right now 😂😂
I think of Enigmata as tinder, fuel, and spark.
The fire would be the moment.
And the ashes would be the rememberence and memories.
Love mysterious characters like march 7th and the lord of silence, Polka Kakamond.
I cannot wait until we get an erudition story and learn more about Polka Kakamond. I'll rush a video out as soon as that happens because I'm really intrigued by her super mysterious backstory
Nah, what happen if march is polka kakamond itself 😅
I my opinion Fuli power is directly contradicts with Enigmata . Fuli who’s forgo the future to embrace the past while Enigmata destroy the past to create the future . In March7 case I think she is the link between the both of them and maybe just maybe she is the aeon born from both of them .
Their powers do seem to contradict one another though in the lore (i forget where exactly I think in the SU stuff) mythus is said to oppose erudition as one seeks to know everything while the other seeks to obscure it
What an interesting theory! I believe in the connection between March and Rememberance, but I also like the idea of March being fictionalogist like Gallagher. It could be an absolute heartbreaking twist, if March regains her memories during some epic events, saves everyone and then disappears like Gallagher. It could be an emotional disaster plottwist))
But, in the end of the day, I definitely prefer happy endings where everyone stays alive, happy and with hope))
interesting theory i could see it one thing that could be interesting is we are assuming it was a garden of recollection person guarding marches memories but what if was actually another follower of enigmata who was pretending to be a member of the garden would fit in with their style of telling lies and erasing memories for the greater good
What a fascinating theory! And a well-put one!
This also reminds me of the time we first met mythus in GnG SU, he first disguised as Fuli, similar to how March is painted as being from the remembrance when she might be from the enigmata.
Oh I completely forgot about that, I remembered how the MC described seeing mythus but not that it initially appeared as Fuli. Pair that with the fact that we know Mythus was born within Fuli's realm (or claimed to have been) maybe they are far more connected than we initially thought
To give my own two cents and a bit of a crack theory
March might have some point in the past have encountered something she shouldn't have or to say the least something interesting enough to the point of the garden of Recollection took her memories
I feel like that's the main theory about her tbh
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People thought I was Elio, in truth I am mythus 😂
march, is, idrilla. idrilla had a romance with fuli and fuli helped her escape the death she knew her path was coming to by locking away her memory's and making her into march
Coping
i wanna know what you are smoking rn
I really wish this would come true
no no no, let him cooks
Liking just in case this person is right lmao
5 star March is going to introduce Remembrance or Enigmata path to the game trust
She is so adorable❤, i love when she and caelus spend time together like the little date in belobog. I wonder what hoyoverse will plan for her story
All my response choices just result in March being pissed off, though I like being sarcastic with her 😂
I just finished watching your video on the previous navigators of the express and then boom, new video! Yay me
I'm of the opinion that she's Idrilla and the reason why Fuli wants to keep her old memories sealed away is implied by her photography hobby. I think Beauty has a connection with the poetic Sublime but Idrilla wants to make and spread beauty to the cosmos, not just in a transient moment, and so tries to make a more permanent method to keep beauty last longer, but this makes Beauty overlap with Remembrance. Fuli, aware of what happens when Paths overlap and not wanting to be absorbed into Idrilla or absorb her Path, since Fuli needs memories of beauty in his universe restoration project and he's the one focused on said project, decides to do a third option. Keep Idrilla alive but without her memories and hopefully something else would lead her Path away from his, thus keeping both Aeons alive, hence why the Garden supports the Express in this manner.
This may be a dumb theory but did anyone notice that March technique and the hunt in the su is the same,i know that hoyo may use the same animation for these two but if not is this a coincidence?
My personal theory is that march is either secretly (and unknowingly) an emenator of the enigmata, or mythus themselves, or even some sort of anchor for myths to affect the real world. It could also be interesting if mythus and fuli need each other to exist, or they both die. As such, both of them would have an interest in keeping march in the dark, lest she dissappear a "virtual being" would. On top of that, the imagery linking to the remembrance could be red herrings planted by the two memory aeons to divert people who want to find the truth about march's identity attention away from the enigmata and towards the remembrance.
My theory with March is she is kind of like the MC where she is an anomaly in the timeline that we are in now.
It goes like this...
There are timelines before where the whole universe gets destroyed by Nanook and then Fuli resets it in a specific time.
Every time Nanook destroys a timeline Fuli resets it, but by doing this again and again Fuli starts to become weak.
In the last timeline, Fuli created a separate entity with all of her (or his) memories from that timeline and encased it in that layers of ice where March is in and it is protected from the reset of Fuli.
That entity took a human form, March.
Fuli did a last reset leading to our current timeline and now there is March with all the memories of the previous timeline floating around in space.
As for the MC, referencing to a video of yours where Elio was blessed by Terminus, in this timeline, he planned to raise the MC so that the MC will be the one to challenge Nanook changing the fate of the universe.
However, Elio does not actually know how they can stop Nanook since he has no information on how Nanook will do the destruction thing. What he can think of is gathering all the stellaron and then launching all of them (probably) to Nanook. This could be his action in the last timeline and it failed.
Now here comes the combination of MC and March.
MC is the one raised to confront Nanook, and March comes with all the knowledge on how Nanook destroys things, along with the knowledge on how to defeat Nanook.
Elio did not know who March is (proof is the ending credit scene where March's supposed real name is ???).
I can imagine a scene around the end where we are working together with the stellaron hunters, and probably everyone that we met along the way, to defeat Nanook.
Elio runs out of script because he does not know how to confront Nanook, March is always out of his script because he does not know who she is.
Suddenly March remembers everything. Well, she will gradually remember things as we progress in the story, but now she remembers why she was created, why she is there, why she has different powers (related to her "forms"), things like that.
She talks to everyone and they are now able to come up with a plan to defeat Nanook.
Sorry for the long comment.
- Thanks to Gallagher in 2.2 story, we can have good idea on what kind of power enigmata bring to their follower/pathstrider/emanator, to me Enigmata power fall somewhere between Elation and Remembrance but leaning more toward Remembrance in a sense.
- While i think your theory is quite interesting but i think her new power which will be reveal in this year will be from her new real memory not from creating fake memory so i'm still firmly believe in March origin have something to do with Remembrance and the garden or recollection, either directly or indirectly
- Due to how little info with have about her origin so it just hard to speculate anything, anything is guessing at this point so let me add the discussion with my own guess:
-> March might be an ancient race that have deep tie with Remembrance in general. My basis for this guess is:
+ We have already seen a few humanlike race already so not weird for another one to appear
+ Powerful race in hsr exist as well, which we already have a few example so i won't list them out here
=> March race might be a human like race but with the ability to turn their memories into their strength or atleast their power relate to memory in someway which can explain somewhat about their relationship to Remembrance and Garden of recollection.
=> Something must have happen to them and March could be the last of her kind and before she drift in space, someone or herself must made a deal with Garden of Recollection to seal her memories away. That basically is my guess, you can fill in the detail as you like
- The honkai writer love to made you overthink so March origin might be obvious since the start but we just overthink it
Do you guys think Elios leaked concept art looks a lot like march
I have not personally seen it as im worried it might influence how I think about elio moving forward 😁
I actually think she is that pink haired navigator of the express we have seen in the cosmodyssey event
this is why she only started to melt once she was in the express again
and she will probably get new powers based on the planets she trailblazed
I actually mentioned that as a passing joke in the navigator video and seriously considered pursuing that train of thought as its own video 😂
fuli is definitly watching over march and shielding her from her past or at least has gotten the memokeepers to watch over her and protect her from her past for now whatever the reason it is must be pretty traumatic stuff if they dont want her to know yet.
the memo keeper that stopped march told her the knowledge would break her its safe to assune theyre shielding her from some pretty upsetting nemories.
I am strong believer that in swarm disaster Ena, Tazziront and Idrila were made into harmony by Klipoth. So I don't think that she is beauty eon related, but rememberance connection is strong.
Getting more powerful from memories is something that characters basically already do in game, because a light cone is also basically a container for memories right?
though that might just be game design reasons, I wonder if there is any lore behind that.
fuli and idrilla had a child, it was march fr trust me, im gona keep throwing out wild theorys
How is that even possible?
@@PhongNguyen-gy2rg there gods, aha made a worm into an emanator and you think two aeons possible being able to collab and coalesce energy's into making a child would be out the question?
@@CrobatmanIamthenight sesbian lex
proof it with a video of them making march.
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@@CrobatmanIamthenight I don't know aeons could collab
What if march came from glamoth or maybe she is Titania herself? Because it's pretty odd that the garden recollection really forcing us to never remember her past like a super taboo thing. This is really reminding me of the penacony tyrant side quest where we can make the choice to tell the truth or giving a beautiful lie instead
One thing that can link Enigmata and Rembrance is shown from the Clockie cartoons where the truth is actively hidden in cartoons in order for it to be remembered as an allegory. Mythos isn't about erasing history it's about hiding it so that it can be protected, so that the victor can not rewrite history to their liking. It's another way to preserve history.
Her Color scheme is closest to that of The Finality.
quite possible the aeon who sealed her memories did so, to seal her power.
she may have even requested it so that she could move forward thru time instead of backwards.
across the different end credits for penacony more and more ??? identities were revealed, and by the current end only March 7th's actress name remains a ???.
Wait, is Black Swan even stated to be an Emanater? Cause if not, maybe the ability to turn memories to powers, instead of LCs, may be the power of an Emanater alone. And if Black Swan is an Emanater, Emanators should be able to "create" specialised abilities for their use, right? And if March is a Fictionologist, the same concept can be applied, with not everyone utilising the same methods to obtain power. Cause for Gallagher, he maintains his power by not exposing his true identity. But what about gaining even more power? What if instead of destroying the obtained memories outright, they are able to absorb the ones they personally have ties to? Because if they don't have a way to gain more power, they'll essentially be nothing more than the average human after a while.
We were told that the memokeepers are emanators of the remembrance when one of them broke onto the train
@@shadow-faye but still, the Remembrance is still very mysterious, so we're still left with many gaps all over
My personal headcanon crack theory:
March is Akivili
Alright, let me cook. Long time ago, Akivili as an aeon of trailblaze have reached his last destination. He already journeyed through the entire universe. But what is an aeon of trailblaze without trailblazing? Isn't finishing the goal basically killing the aeon themselves?
So in order to maintain the path of trailblazing, akivili disband the astral express and made an exchange with fuli the remembrance. Fuli would erase the memory of akivili and put him in an ice. The ice could only be melted if the spirit of trailblaze is come back to life. Thus making march's ice imediately melted when it brought into the express
This way, akivili could relive the journey of trailblazing once again. Fuli helped him in exchange for akivili's memory during the whole journey.
My theory explains why March has a lot of association with remembrance and astral express. Also garden of recollection tries to hide her past because it's part of the contract. Thank you for listening to my ted talk
but didnt the ice melt after Dan Heng use his Imbibitor Lunae power?
@@AhaxD-r7gi never really considered that but its possible
Another possibility: in her past, March received the gaze of IX, and the Memokeepers excised that experience before she could become a full Self-Annihlator. She can have a (relatively) normal future so long as she doesn't reconnect with her brush with IX. Just a crack theory on my part; not a whole lot to back it up. 🙂
I mean if Acheron is anything to go by, self annihilators sometimes suffer memory loss while retaining humanity. Perhaps unknown to her she IS a self annihilator, but through her complete loss of the memory of that fact she managed to oopsie her way out of it, and is no longer associated with IX
There is nothing you can do to convince me she isn’t a memo keeper of the garden of recollection or an emanator of the remembrance there have been numerous subtle and big noticeable hints. First of all her companion quest she can’t go to see her origin because a memokeeper erased her memory number 2 we have heard from black swan that there was once a memokeeper who used a camera to collect/hold memories and that sounds a lot like march and number 3 as of the end of the 2.3 story quest we see black swan a memokeeper walk out of march’s room she could have come out of any room Dan Hengs Himekos or welts but she came out with of March’s room coincidence I think not
If i had to play same game as you as devils advocate, i will suspect march to be related into fuli more extreme faction. The cremator instead. Unlike fictionologist, who corrupting the fact, cremator directly destroying memories leaving nothing, if they deem memory had to be destroyed.
Perhaps she purge her own memory as the cremator as self defense while frozen by the ice. Or some cremator erasing her memmory while protect herself in ice.
Checking the 2.1 Livestream, they actually say that March "留下" which is leaves, keeps or take a memory and not "创造”which is creating a memory. So the translation had a small error.
We all know the truth: March 7 is a fragment of what remains of the Propagation!!! chan chan chaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan
I think the Fictionologists gain power from being walking contradictions, and that's why they lose power as you learn more about them. On a quantum level, they're a superposition of contradictory ideas/identities, and learning more about them serves as a quantum observation and causes the superposition waveform to collapse. After this, the Fictionologist could have a critical existence failure.
You know im glad you brought up quantum mechanics because (going off on a tangent here) I've wanted to make a video about how each aeon could functionally be a quantum particle or something within quantum mechanics. Nanook is entropy, terminus is a tachyon, mythus is the uncertainty principle, IX is a black hole. But going back to what you mentioned it does bring up a rather curious question of what would happen if we learnt everything about mythus, would it cease to exist?
@@Maevix3142 I think that would work in Mythus' case. Similarly, I wonder if you could kill Fuli by destroying or obscuring all memories of Them.
imagine we come back to this video after years to comment "damn he was right"
Maybe March is the last thoughts, feelings, and dreams of a planet that got wiped out. Though a lot of info that we have seems to put a thorn in this sort of thought.
March potentially being a planet for some reason reminds me of eden zero lmao
Memo keeper use memory to make lightcone so you can't say that Black Swan didn't use memory to make new thing.
maybe March is a collection of wills from the people of the planet Nanook was from given form by the enigmata... the collective will to survive the destruction.. and because of the memories of a whole planet inside one person is too much, Fuli erased it.
The Enigmata theory is really cool, but I think your points putting holes in it are exactly correct. The Remembrance path makes a lot more sense to me, March's story feels very much like "being with too much power was sealed away". That says to me she's either an Emanator of an opposing path or someone important to the Garden of Recollection whose existence has to be hidden. Also, if what the devs said is accurate, it could also support March being a memetic entity capable of change/evolution, and perhaps that's aberrant among the Garden.
Yeah when I was coming up with this I couldnt help disprove those holes in the theory and why im still leaning a bit more towards remembrance at the moment
Crack theory:
Since we got some leaks on what Elio looks like, one day i was doing my usual things then i thought "What if March was Related to Elio/The Finality?"
Bro became a history fictionalogist with this one🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Just doing my part to spread the misinformation 😂
My theory on what hoyo meant is she will create unique light cones(memories) by using her camera and taking photos from different places. The LC will give her different abilities and she will be the first character to have a remembrance path so that only she can use the light cones. Did I cook?
Yep u did
Now give her the Acheron light cone and see if she summons a black hole or not
and now we know that her new form is a cringe as it is powerfull
I really liked this video, all of the points and possibilities you mentioned really seem possible in my opinion! ✩ Also the thing about her possibly being somehow linked with the remembrance made me think back to how in the simulated universe, the path of Remembrance is associated with effects such a freezing enemies, lowering their effect res and all that stuff. It really makes it seem like March is the one character who can make most of it and gain most benefit from blessings of remembrance (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.) This would of course be hinting more strongly at her possibly having to do something with the remembrance, but this is also just my speculation (•‿•)
I cannot wait till we get to see her possible new form, thank you for this great video and i wish to see more in the future!! ✮
I'm surprise you didn't bring the fact that... on march's companion quest there's a point where she gets 2... or 3? (can remember exactly) "theorized" past, I remember one was 'arlan' from march's memory that said she was like a princess and march replied "wait this is some of my fanfiction I made from my past" which I think it was more like a nod to superman, but that's what I thought until now we know a little bit more of enigmata and history fictionologyst
You see, the more theories we have about March, the less certain we are about her story, ultimately serving the enigmata
Exactly, in truth I serve mythus 😂
If she’s not remembrance/memokeeper ( I think she is, maybe a physical one as all other memokeepers are non-corporeal beings) then I think she might be a Creamator the rogue agents who destroy memories
cant wait to see tb march and daniel become aeons
Daniel 😭
Memory Herta hinted that March lost her authority as an Aeon. And Fu Xuan came to the conclusion that Fuli is probably the one who sealed her memories, not to harm, but to protect her.
There are many clues in her Story Quest that was pointing to her being an Aeon that lost her powers.
And Memory Herta hinted that due to March 7th's actions/mistake caused her (and maybe other Aeons) to lose their Authority.
You know could she be akivili -the nameless given a new name
2:33 doesn't this mean she trapped her self inside the ice 🤔
Her previous memories are that.. her real name is k243 also known as kiana kaslana
Start of honkai impact 4 lol
Very interesting theory. Thank you!
Was worried this was a bit out there, glad you liked it 😁
What I find weird is that the Rememberence, which is all about preserving memories, is actively discouraging March to remember her past. That's like... so weird.
Either they want to keep her memories (because they have it) or they were forced into that situation (someone else removed it but tasked them with ensuring March doesnt regain them)
My theory is that March herself willingly handed her memories to the garden so they won’t fall into the wrong hands, maybe some top secret information
What if March is a brand new path in the universe? It would be interesting
Would it be funny if turn out march had a past with nanook or nanook before ascending
inb4 March discovers she might not be real then she claims she is real and achieves Chim (if you know you know)
I think she’s more something like elsyia from Honkai Impact 3rd since she looks like elsyia
argentis reaction seemed more like a girl starved guy seing a girl again and being awkward... not like there is anything deeper.. i rather suspect that march 7ths future upgrades will revolve about remembering actions and repeating it.. consider a double acheron ultimate cuz march took a photo and made remembrance a reality...
If anyone watches one piece, and is current with the anime, think about this in terms of jewelry bonnie's devil fruit
Oh thats an interesting take which might meld both abilities of remembrance and fictionologist abilities like how bonnie can use distorted future to manifest an alternate version of a possible future
March’s even says she made up hundreds of fake backstory about herself because she forgot
She’s probably Akivili 👀
The prevailing theory is that pompom is akivili thought not sure I believe that entirely
Ahh finally found this channel lol
It wasn't even that hard😭 but I was dumb
I wonder when they will have beuaty design
Still belive March is Elieen from Hi3 lol tho it just a concept.
She will do stuff
Indeed 🤔
Thats super interesting.
Whats even more interesting is that in 2.3 march said she felt a tentacle reach into her memories... mythus has those on their head.. HHMMMM 😂
Maybe march is an aeon who forgot her path
That might be an interesting direction, I wonder if its even possible for an aeon to forget their role
Herrscher of Human: Ego
Or maybe nihility..... I mean they are the opposite of remembrance and archeron barely can remember her past
Acheron has memory issues because she's a self annihilator, same reason she can taste things and why all her colour leaves her sometimes
March doesn't have any such issues and her memories aren't being consistently forgotten like Acheron's are
Make a theory about trailblazer and nannok they look alike
I'll do you one better, I wanted to make one about how firefly and the trailblazer might be related and that when they created the traiblazer (they are an artificial creation) they partly used fireflies DNA. Thats why shes so attached to them and why they both have grey-ish hair 😂
Isn’t screwllum a fictionologist ?
Screwllum is erudition isnt he given hes part of the genius society
I think she might be the god of primogems :3
Shes likely a sentient primogem given her colour scheme 😂
Naah. She's Tayziroth
Ill turn the theory on you. You have the wrong idea about how memories work. Memories isnt something that you just have, memories are something you have to create. The human mind isnt really designed to remember, its designed to forget. Try remember what you ate on the first thursday of february this year. You probably cant do that, only people with photographic memory can remember because they got issues with the function that make us forget things. If one want to have a memory of something, you have to either repeat it several times, or you have to make it memorable. Funnily, because of this you can also create fake memories. So in a way, fiction and memory are very similar. Both can create things but fiction will always be a lie, unlike memory which can be both true or false, or a blurred version of both, depending on the point of view.
Im starting to think ur here to confuse things lol
In the ena video, I said the exacty same thing. Im not elio predicting things, in truth im mythus 😂
Suske
I like to think March is Lord Ravager Zulo or what is left of them.