Trump vs. Macron: Who is Hegel's World-Spirit on Horseback?

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  • @JohannesNiederhauser
    @JohannesNiederhauser  23 дні тому +5

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  • @mikedeery7439
    @mikedeery7439 11 днів тому +3

    Just discovered your channel... wow! Such treasures to dive into 😊 thankyou

  • @xenocrates2559
    @xenocrates2559 21 день тому +3

    There is a lot of analysis in this video, covering a wide range of insights. I particularly enjoyed the linking between 'reason' and 'telos' as it clarified some views I have struggled with. One thing I have become more aware of in the last five years or so is that the understanding of 'reason' is broader and more complex in the Classical period than it is now. This first became clear to me through a reading of Plotinus who discusses this in several Enneads. The overall point he makes is that 'reason' as method includes what he refers to as 'comparisons' by which he means things like metaphor and allegory. Today, particularly in the anglosphere, reason is confined to something like syllogistic. Seeing this contrast as to what reason means has helped me to understand Hegel better as well as other idealists. // Regarding Macron, my observation has been that he has a mind that sees things in a detailed way; several of his proposals have been worked out meticulously. But the timing for them doesn't seem congenial; hence there has always been for me a bit of frustration about Macron's potential. // Thanks for posting this.

  • @uutaker
    @uutaker 22 дні тому +7

    As I understand it, which understanding is partly shaped by your video, Johannes, on the Introduction to The Science of Logic, Hegel warns that his method cannot be interpreted as a mechanistic movement of some dialectics. I think he argues that during "Erkenntnis", both Understanding (Verstand) and Reason (Vernunft) has to take its part, because the categories of "Erkenntnis" are not just empty forms, but also have complex contents. These contents are mental (or spiritual) in nature, therefore they cannot be conceived only through Understanding, which's primary purpose is to cognise the physical world. If someone denies that Reason is able to reach beyond the boundaries of the physical world, he will get to the conclusion that categories are only empty forms so the inner movement of a concept is also without content, thus formal and deterministic. From this point, Fukuyama (a Marx I think also) uses the Hegelian method without being a true idealist, but rather a materialist. In this deterministic view of history, history should really have an end and not a telos.

    • @JohannesNiederhauser
      @JohannesNiederhauser  22 дні тому +3

      Yes and Kojeve made the same mistake on which the entire notion of the end of history bases

    • @Badbentham
      @Badbentham 22 дні тому +1

      You make an excellent point, that actually highlights Marx's critique of Idealism, based on a dialectical reading of Master and Servant: The Master achieves detachment from the harshness of the physical world. The result is" Idealism"; - empty reasoning , and moralism, without understanding. Something that many (i.e. "leftist") academics make a profession of. While the Servant on the other hand is in fact forced to experience and suffer the material conditions of the world, and thus achieves "understanding". Of course it goes: Understanding without reason is blind. Reason without understanding is empty. - The Marxist view on history, however, is that it has yet to start; as telos. As the current state of affairs, that Hegel ( and his great simplifier, Kojeve 😛) analyzes in great depth, would be pre-history. 😉

    • @uutaker
      @uutaker 22 дні тому +1

      @@Badbentham As Hegel puts it: "Just as the understanding is usually taken to be something separate from reason as such, so too dialectical reason is usually taken to be something distinct from positive reason. But reason in its truth is spirit which is higher than either merely positive reason, or merely intuitive understanding."
      As I understand it, Understanding and Reason go hand in hand; they are inseparable. If someone tries to separate them, it inevitably leads to a metaphysical fallacy. I think Chesterton wrote that a madman is not deprived of Reason, but that Reason is all he has left. On the other hand, looking at the content of Spirit purely from the side of Understanding reduces its content to empty formalities-like mathematical equations, additions, and subtractions, and that’s it. This, as you say, is indeed the current state of affairs, certainly on some philosophy departments

  • @timtunden7841
    @timtunden7841 19 днів тому +3

    If Trump embodies a spirit for this era, it is the spirit of appearances, of playacting, of conforming to circumstance, albeit through the outrageous, the comedic opposed to tragic. That Macron appeals to a historical model, such as de Gaulle, rather than an empty slogan of "great", shows he is out of step with the fatuousness of our time.

  • @stancanner
    @stancanner 22 дні тому +6

    I have seen world-spirit, sat on a sunbed …

    • @JohannesNiederhauser
      @JohannesNiederhauser  22 дні тому +4

      more like spray tan

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 22 дні тому

      Hot take: Trump should disband NATO and the EU should create a European Army. If Europeans have to fight for their survival, they will have to shift their stances on immigration and LGBT.

  • @idicula1979
    @idicula1979 23 дні тому +2

    Life was never meant to be stagnant, to remain calm in all ages now whether that be a good thing or bad, that is the question for us to answer.

  • @0001-x3r
    @0001-x3r 22 дні тому +3

    The system of German Idealism will complete itself.

  • @supplementalhorsey4510
    @supplementalhorsey4510 21 день тому +2

    Volume too low on this video. Had to turn up to max to make out what was being said.

  • @gwfbagel3811
    @gwfbagel3811 23 дні тому +15

    Please God do not claim that Macron represents the world-spirit.

    • @JohannesNiederhauser
      @JohannesNiederhauser  23 дні тому +27

      Thank you for referring to me, as is proper, as God. Jupiter in fact.

    • @Dionysus-gv9lz
      @Dionysus-gv9lz 18 днів тому

      @@JohannesNiederhauserexcellent 😂

  • @fillingthefridge
    @fillingthefridge 21 день тому +1

    Thank you for the vid.
    Unrelated to the topic, but don’t u wanna hire an artist to do you some tumbnails and art for vids? Or just use some contemporary political realism paintings? It’s gonna have a lot more personality and will be much more ethical

  • @HarbingeroftheNew
    @HarbingeroftheNew 23 дні тому +10

    Trump is a member of the merchant class, he is unsophisticated and crude -- he is a means to an end, he engenders the beginning of something better but remains solely at a superficial level which appeals to the rabble but nevertheless creates the opening up of what must and will come.

    • @straussbolkonsky
      @straussbolkonsky 22 дні тому +2

      The person behind Trump:
      - Peter Thiel. Peter is a merchant but also a philosopher. Although he doesn't have charisma nor a social aura, he's probably the mastermind behind Trump through JD Vance.

    • @HarbingeroftheNew
      @HarbingeroftheNew 22 дні тому +2

      @ even if he were to be the person behind Trump, he is not a philosopher. Philosophers aren’t merchants. The appellation of philosopher is too easily given in our times.

    • @ignisimber2818
      @ignisimber2818 22 дні тому

      Well articulated

    • @PeterStrider
      @PeterStrider 22 дні тому

      ​​​@@HarbingeroftheNew we are all merchants in this era. Even philosophers such as Johannes must market and sell. I sell my time and expertise. According to your assessment there are no philosophers in this era because everyone sells. But perhaps you might reappraise and agree philosophy in the ancient Socratic understanding is a way of asking questions and striving for answers How to Live? I'm no academic Philosopher (capitalised) but humbly call myself a small p philosopher genuinely striving to understand the world and live a best life of virtue. I'm happy to sit at the feet of Socrates and all those other thinkers in history who ask the important questions. It is the asking, not the answering, which makes one a philosopher imho. And so even Trump might have a philosophical streak. Elon Musk certainly does and he is a merchant par excellence. Being open to more insights from unexpected sources is a marker of intelligence and vitality. Being closed minded is a posture of defeat and extinction

    • @PeterStrider
      @PeterStrider 22 дні тому

      ​​@HarbingeroftheNew we are all merchants in this era. Even philosophers such as Johannes must market and sell. I sell my time and expertise. According to your assessment there are no philosophers in this era because everyone sells. But perhaps you might reappraise and agree philosophy in the ancient Socratic understanding is a way of asking questions and striving for answers How to Live? I'm no academic Philosopher (capitalised) but humbly call myself a small p philosopher genuinely striving to understand the world and live a best life of virtue. I'm happy to sit at the feet of Socrates and all those other thinkers in history who ask the important questions. It is the asking, not the answering, which makes one a philosopher imho. And so even Trump might have a philosophical streak. Elon Musk certainly does and he is a merchant par excellence. Being open to more insights from unexpected sources is a marker of intelligence and vitality. Being closed minded is a posture of defeat and extinction

  • @Clockwork.Lemon854
    @Clockwork.Lemon854 22 дні тому +2

    Do you think his pre political career in real estate and entertainment, allows him to be this chameleon or screen as you call it, that can become whatever the masses want? The masses were so used to his voice, name and image for decades that everyone has just submitted.

    • @JohannesNiederhauser
      @JohannesNiederhauser  21 день тому

      Especially his reality TV persona yes and his participation in the WWE

  • @n00bermemsch
    @n00bermemsch 22 дні тому +8

    It's Xi Jinping

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 22 дні тому

      Trump > Xi

    • @hollister2320
      @hollister2320 21 день тому

      I’m sure the guy who’s thrown thousands into detainment camps for comparing him to Winnie the Pooh and sent his entire navy (a bunch of fishermen lol) to scour the ocean to find, steal, and reverse-engineer ONE American f35 jet (which was later recovered by the US Navy anyway) is nowhere near a Napoleonic-like figure. Lest we forget china’s embarrassing performance in the sino-Vietnam war, which they lost to a Vietnam on its last legs fighting a 20 year war against the US. And they still got spanked by reserves🤡🇨🇳

  • @ahmedabdelfattah4609
    @ahmedabdelfattah4609 23 дні тому +2

    Trump is the emperor of new Rome - one of crazy emperors and Macron is one of generals

  • @yeabtseganegash5684
    @yeabtseganegash5684 23 дні тому

    I always thought , once Hegel , one never can depart from him , he is the perfect parasite 😅

  • @GentlemanLife-Beyotch
    @GentlemanLife-Beyotch 21 день тому

    I love it 😂

  • @kingdm8315
    @kingdm8315 22 дні тому +1

    None are

  • @fusion9619
    @fusion9619 19 днів тому

    Why does the world spirit have to be a person? This seems like messianic thought. Wouldn't it be better if humanity doesn't need messiahs?

  • @1872959
    @1872959 23 дні тому +8

    Well it's not Trump that's for sure. Trump is the old world refusing to fade away, and it's not Macron either

    • @JohannesNiederhauser
      @JohannesNiederhauser  23 дні тому +3

      A retrograde candidate. I mention this in the video.

    • @jesusgonzalez-acton8045
      @jesusgonzalez-acton8045 23 дні тому

      Sure, that’s why reality itself bent to preserve him back in July. That’s why every attempt to stop him over the past decade has failed. He’s proved to be purely a man and not an implacable, inevitable force.

    • @lotharlamurtra7924
      @lotharlamurtra7924 22 дні тому

      The new world would be The Woke one?

    • @aesop1451
      @aesop1451 22 дні тому

      He's a deal maker and doesn't have an ideology. Why did he win so bigly in 2024? He took traditional marriage out of the Republican Platform. It also says that Republicans are only against late-term ab0rti0ns. He's moved the Republican Party to the left. Elon Musk is involved Neuralink and SpaceX. JD Vance has read Curtis Yarvin. I think America has entered the Principate era.

    • @jesusgonzalez-acton8045
      @jesusgonzalez-acton8045 21 день тому

      Coming back to this comment after having come across an old Financial Times article where, Kissinger, a Spenglerian, says something to the effect of “Trump may be a once in an epoch type figure, who appears at a point of transition and forces an era to give up on old pretenses.”

  • @ahmedabdelfattah4609
    @ahmedabdelfattah4609 23 дні тому

    The God of Books is the Absolute Author. With the end of aeon of Book and there are a new system of saving and transmission of information then there are a new Absolute Global Mind.

  • @unknowninfinium4353
    @unknowninfinium4353 20 днів тому +1

    No one knows what hegel means.
    Hegel got destroyed by Goethe.
    No one knows what aufhiben means.
    Hegel the greatest mental masturbator cant even describe "truth".
    No one every points to his gnostic influence.
    I guess there is always another pointless content with Hegel.

  • @user-hu3iy9gz5j
    @user-hu3iy9gz5j 22 дні тому

    1:40 🎉

  • @Astavyastataa
    @Astavyastataa 20 днів тому

    Neither, because there’s no such thing as a Hegelian world spirit. Only a hyperstition, if anything.

  • @matriputra2624
    @matriputra2624 15 днів тому

    Putin

  • @surv3994
    @surv3994 22 дні тому +1

    the true world spirit is xi jinping