Listen, I'm Canadian & even I think y'all are over-the-top apologizing for your catch phrases. I love hearing "And, again" "What's interesting" etc etc. Never change: especially Dan!! 💯
I think this round of "overrated" comes from players who are tired of their quarterback losing the spotlight to Allen. It's guys on the Bengals, Jets, Chargers, Dolphins etc stumping for their own QB.
When Josh began crushing the hopes and dreams of certain opposing fan bases, this is where the animosity started. Some of them wholeheartedly admit they hate him.
Burrow, Allen, and Lamar Jackson will always be judged as overrated until they can unseat Mahomes unfortunately. I hope Allen gets the help he needs at the WR position this year.
Also want to add, we are over 7 years removed from the 2018 draft. Coaching, work-effort, personal development and on-field results have more bearing on how we perceive QBs. Time to quit talking 2018 draft position I think.
It’s more of a current perception of the players value. He could have been the last pick in the draft (Purdy) and there would be people who think he is overhyped by media and fan bases. Josh Allen in better than Lamar and he’s been sent here to destroy you
If anyone is overrated in those top QBs, it's Jackson. He was 17th in pass attempts and didn't throw fot 4k. Not since NcNair and Steve Young have a QB won an MVP award throwing under 4k.
Allen has over 100 more TDs than Lamar does who gets catered to by the media, while Allen gets the Caitlyn Clark treatment from ESPN. They both came into the NFL together in 2018..
Allen has more TDs than any other player in NFL history by his age. He's overrated? Or hated on by woke ESPN for mysterious reasons? Allen doesn't fit Disney owned companies favored marketing direction.
That whole "who's best" thing is sounding like a bunch of old ladies arguing over a back yard fence. Too much drama! We know what we have, the rest can go plunk to HE_double hockey sticks. IMHO it's great to have Mike White! Remember that old play with the #2 lining up as a TE? 8) Or FB/HB? Maybe in motion 8) A little razzle dazzle please LOL. I hope they coach TBass to maybe talk to somebody (a professional). We know he's got the leg, 50% of kicking is in the head. There is nothing bad/wrong with a little "noggin coaching" too. He is the only player out there that is 100% on his own after the snap/set!! GO BILLS --gary
I may be a "homer" but I think Josh Allen is the best QB in the NFL- he just has not had the the tools (0ther than Diggs) to win the big one..as for trash talking Josh, screw 'em!
Bass is a problem ! Period! We do realize that all he has to do is kick, for Millions 💰. He has already been penalized for missing the new kicking zone! Let alone he can’t kick a FG through the center.
Allen is better than mahomes mahomes just had better luck in the playoffs and his defense mainly Chris Jones always make a play on defense when needed Allen defense never make a big stop when they have to
Josh Allen is the #QBeast, and the anonymous players polled are just taking shots at the guy who steals the spotlight from their team. Mike White is a solid back-up that won't hesitate to pull the proverbial trigger on big plays. #GoBills
@@mattchew6426 I agree. I've been a Bills fan since 1964, and seen a lot of terrible seasons(1-12-1, 2-14), and am enjoying the last 6 seasons. I love Josh, but you have to admit he's a cocky SOB. The opposing players don't like him, but they do fear him.
Lots of people sleeping on Shakir, you can definitely take him in later rounds. I have Coleman on one of my teams, not sure how it will pan out, hoping for a breakout year though.
Bass was not good all of last season. His kickoffs were bad, many short and even the field goals he made were iffy. It looked so bad, I thought maybe he was hurt.
Can we please do away with these nonsense survey’s? Josh is always going to be polarizing because 30 other teams fans are frustrated that they didn’t draft him.
Gotta say.. I was wrong about Justin Shorter. I was happy to see you guys did him some coverage though. As you said.... he just didn't do enough to make the team. I had seen interviews with him and thought he was a really nice kid with a good head on his shoulders, and I wish him luck in Minnesota. Catalana.. you did a little bragging here today.. kind of like Dan does regularly... but since you are a HOFer you can get away with it. Saying that I do believe your take on Mike White is a good one. I jab at you guys every now and then... but I always watch the Podcast. You guys are entertaining... but I will say... minus Jenna today, there was some really good insightful football content.... sorry Jenna. BUT, I will say that I laugh more when Jenna is on. I hope you guys don't have my posts on a black list. LOL Keep up the good work.
Thanks Mike and Dan! Keep up the good work! I’m getting so excited for the season! I live out west and the Bills are coming here to play the Seahawks! I have a lot of Seahawks friends and family but I’m confident the Bills will win and it be a great game! Go Buffalo 🦬
I don't know if Addreessen will dress on game day. Will the Bills dress 6 LB? Maybe because of the new kick off rule. I hope he dresses for the home opener.
Hi guys,,I made note online 3 days ago,inre T Bass and NO person in backup !! we have back ups for EVERY position but for a kicker !!! I'm not saying give up on Bass,,,I'm just saying that we have NO ONE on the backup !! LR
do i think Allen is better than Mahomes? no. do i think Allen is worse than Mahomes? no. trade Mahomes and Josh straight up between the Chefs and our Bills, and i dont see Mahomes accomplishing what he has. NFL is the ultimate team game. we've never really lost because of JA17. zero issues with Josh or his play.
Allen in the playoffs has been everything we needed, the Defense has let him down... how can he do more, line up at DE and rush Mahomes also? Im all for Mike White over Mitch
Top 2-5 QBs are interchangeable depending on where you grade them. If anything he is overated by 1 spot 😂 😂 If Allen was out of the top 10 and people are saying he is number 2 or 3 then I could see it.
Clicked on the video- Hovered for a thumbnail of the podcast shot- NO JENNA- Clicked off the video before Beane could get 6 words in. (came back to write this comment) Guys, why even bother shooting without Jenna?
When NFL executives and your peers agree that you’re overrated… there might be some fire with all that smoke! 🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼 Never led the league in passing yards Never led the league in passing TD’s Never led the league in completions Never led the league in completion percentage Never led the league in passer rating Never won offensive player of the year Never won MVP Never made first team All Pro What accolades has he won? 2 Pro Bowls? Really? He’s very good, not great. Philip Rivers 2.0… with less accolades through his first 6 seasons.
People hating on Bass is stupid. Even if he made the kick all it would have been was a tie and there was plenty of time (more than 13 seconds) for Mahommes to score and the way the D was playing KC would have scored and still possibly won.
Beane just plagiarized his own comments, from last season, when asked about Gabe Davis, after Gabe was in (essentially) the same situation, last season. Look it up. Almost word for word…
Bass is the 4th leading scorer in Bills history. I don't get the criticism that same drive Allen fumbled the ball, Diggs dropped one, Shakir dropped one and on third down Josh threw the ball away when he had an open reciever... People are talking about a missed kick.
And I would not trade Josh for mahomes. Josh doesn't get to be coached by the one of the best offensive minds in nfl history. Plus, local media needs to stop parroting the nutwits of the national media
To answer the last question, ‘why would you not subscribe?’, I’m an out-of-towner, original WNYer. I can’t get enough Bills info. But I don’t and won’t subscribe to SHOUT!. I think they suck royally! But I love you guys and Joe Marino. The rest are just wannabes. It’s just how it is from the ‘outside’ world.🤷♂️
Josh is as good as Ma home if NOT BETTER it is saying JOSH has to play the GAME by himself.Next he showed how GOOD HE IS BY GETTING HIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS SO BITE YOUR TONGUES!!!😍❤💙🏈🔥🌞🌘🍻
@@Brianp150H thats what I’m saying ppl bang on to the name and love of a guy . He isn’t the same guy and he really wouldn’t come back and be the best safety
2nd best qb 😂 are you crazy!! He's better then mahomes! You don't even have to give josh the talent that pat has surrounding him or his defense. Just switch coaches. Give josh Andy Reid or just Spags. Both coaches are 10× better coaches for clutch, big time situational times in a game then ours. I like McDermott but he shrinks in big moments and his butt clinches tighter then the joints jenna rolls the bigger the moment in the game! Let pat win a game with 13 sec left and have his coaches botch the game on him and see how great he still looks. Pats great but not as good as allen and pat don't have to over come terrible coaching. With Josh's skills if he had andy reid he would go down as the greatest player to ever play. And he won't win a superbowl till sean is gone. I been saying it since his 3rd year here. He don't have the clutch gene. Debate that topic. I bet you cant
On First Things First, Mahomes himself said Josh is the QB he likes to watch and try to do the things Josh does!
Wow! what a. compliment coming from Mahommes!
Mahomes and Josh seem to like eachother. I think both are cut from the same cloth.
Mike White is great signing for backup and his personality will fit in Buffalo.
Listen, I'm Canadian & even I think y'all are over-the-top apologizing for your catch phrases. I love hearing "And, again" "What's interesting" etc etc. Never change: especially Dan!! 💯
Agree!!
Love the Mike White interview, very clever answer. Buffalo Plus will definitely not be voted overrated! Love your pod! ❤❤
I think this round of "overrated" comes from players who are tired of their quarterback losing the spotlight to Allen. It's guys on the Bengals, Jets, Chargers, Dolphins etc stumping for their own QB.
To think Jets, Chargers, Dolphins etc could've drafted Lamar who went 32nd to the Ravens.
That's the best explanation I have heard.
GOOD! Feed off the haters. 716 loves being underdogs.
The 11 players that have been hurdled, stiff armed, dragged down, run over, and juked out of their cleats 😂
@arthurau9231 Lamar or not those teams would still be in the same boat of being second fiddle to Josh Allen
im 67 and love the show i started likeing football in 65 sayers butkis right after the leather helments ha ha
When Josh began crushing the hopes and dreams of certain opposing fan bases, this is where the animosity started. Some of them wholeheartedly admit they hate him.
But they would take him over their QB. With the exception of a few teams.
@@greggonda4540exception of only 1 team
They did not like Allen from draft day. A lot of hate has been there since day one and they all want to prove they were right about Allen.
GFY
You guys are doing a great job keep it up
It's not ESPN anymore, It's Disney everyone lol
Exactly. There is no more glory.... for white men.
Burrow, Allen, and Lamar Jackson will always be judged as overrated until they can unseat Mahomes unfortunately. I hope Allen gets the help he needs at the WR position this year.
Lamar Jackson overrated? Jackson was drafted 32nd overall by the Ravens. How can a 32nd pick be overrated?
@@arthurau9231Easy...get awarded a MVP he so obviously didn't deserve.
CMC got robbed.
Also want to add, we are over 7 years removed from the 2018 draft.
Coaching, work-effort, personal development and on-field results have more bearing on how we perceive QBs.
Time to quit talking 2018 draft position I think.
@arthurau9231 He's typically regarded as a top 5 QB. Not sure how his draft position means anything now...
It’s more of a current perception of the players value. He could have been the last pick in the draft (Purdy) and there would be people who think he is overhyped by media and fan bases. Josh Allen in better than Lamar and he’s been sent here to destroy you
When Nick Wright defends Josh Allen.... you know there's a problem. Nobody has dissed Josh more than that guy and now he is defending him.
Breaking Ribs not Rules is a Tshirt 🤘😎
First - biggest buffalo plus fan confirmed .
That's actually impressive how fast you commented. Well done sir. -Dan
Lol thanks Dan !@@BuffaloPlus
If anyone is overrated in those top QBs, it's Jackson. He was 17th in pass attempts and didn't throw fot 4k. Not since NcNair and Steve Young have a QB won an MVP award throwing under 4k.
I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure Mike and Dan did this whole video with no interruptions of Jenna. Strong effort you two.
All those 11 players who voted are Dolphins players, crybabies 😂😜 Mike White is the long term solution for the backup quarterback.
I like Josh's answers😊
Allen has over 100 more TDs than Lamar does who gets catered to by the media, while Allen gets the Caitlyn Clark treatment from ESPN. They both came into the NFL together in 2018..
Allen has more TDs than any other player in NFL history by his age. He's overrated? Or hated on by woke ESPN for mysterious reasons? Allen doesn't fit Disney owned companies favored marketing direction.
I think Mitch is done.😊
17 is the best for bills nation, and that’s that!!!!!
That whole "who's best" thing is sounding like a bunch of old ladies arguing over a back yard fence. Too much drama! We know what we have, the rest can go plunk to HE_double hockey sticks. IMHO it's great to have Mike White! Remember that old play with the #2 lining up as a TE? 8) Or FB/HB? Maybe in motion 8) A little razzle dazzle please LOL. I hope they coach TBass to maybe talk to somebody (a professional). We know he's got the leg, 50% of kicking is in the head. There is nothing bad/wrong with a little "noggin coaching" too. He is the only player out there that is 100% on his own after the snap/set!! GO BILLS --gary
I may be a "homer" but I think Josh Allen is the best QB in the NFL- he just has not had the the tools (0ther than Diggs) to win the big one..as for trash talking Josh, screw 'em!
Agree
Your crazy
Bass is a problem ! Period! We do realize that all he has to do is kick, for Millions 💰. He has already been penalized for missing the new kicking zone! Let alone he can’t kick a FG through the center.
Doesn't have to be through the center. Just the upright. If it makes it by an inch every time, don't care, still counts the same
@@BillyBuffalo354 - very true. You have confidence then?
He's gonna miss some key kicks at critical times. Watch!
JOSH IS THE BEST QB IN THE LEAGUE AND THERE IS NO STAT OR ADVANCED METIC YOU CAN PULL THAT SAYS DIFFERENT
Josh has more rushing TDs that Christian McCafferty!!!!!
Allen is better than mahomes mahomes just had better luck in the playoffs and his defense mainly Chris Jones always make a play on defense when needed Allen defense never make a big stop when they have to
Go Bills! Go my favorite Bills podcast
Zero faith in kicking game
We have no kicking game.
Felt like I was drunk in GTA at 3:36
We will see if you guys and girl can police your media vernacular. 🤣 ( Again ) , I love this channel.
interesting
Josh Allen is the #QBeast, and the anonymous players polled are just taking shots at the guy who steals the spotlight from their team. Mike White is a solid back-up that won't hesitate to pull the proverbial trigger on big plays. #GoBills
Players don't like Josh Allen because he is kind of nasty on the field, trash talking and celebration.
@@markmurphy558
That may be, but trash talking is a part of the game of football...
@@mattchew6426 I agree. I've been a Bills fan since 1964, and seen a lot of terrible seasons(1-12-1, 2-14), and am enjoying the last 6 seasons. I love Josh, but you have to admit he's a cocky SOB. The opposing players don't like him, but they do fear him.
Lots of people sleeping on Shakir, you can definitely take him in later rounds.
I have Coleman on one of my teams, not sure how it will pan out, hoping for a breakout year though.
Don't let Bass be the next Norwood
Too late
He already is! Did you see the ending of our KC playoff game last year ? Wide right!
Love the signing.......,"no checkdown Charlie!"
Bass was not good all of last season. His kickoffs were bad, many short and even the field goals he made were iffy. It looked so bad, I thought maybe he was hurt.
Can we please do away with these nonsense survey’s? Josh is always going to be polarizing because 30 other teams fans are frustrated that they didn’t draft him.
Espn saying he's the no 1 overrated based off 11 guys is just total slander.
"2 years and we are finally healed" 🤣
Gotta say.. I was wrong about Justin Shorter. I was happy to see you guys did him some coverage though. As you said.... he just didn't do enough to make the team. I had seen interviews with him and thought he was a really nice kid with a good head on his shoulders, and I wish him luck in Minnesota.
Catalana.. you did a little bragging here today.. kind of like Dan does regularly... but since you are a HOFer you can get away with it. Saying that I do believe your take on Mike White is a good one.
I jab at you guys every now and then... but I always watch the Podcast. You guys are entertaining... but I will say... minus Jenna today, there was some really good insightful football content.... sorry Jenna. BUT, I will say that I laugh more when Jenna is on.
I hope you guys don't have my posts on a black list. LOL
Keep up the good work.
No need to apologize for your catch phrases!! It’s your personalities 😊. All good. Go Bill!!!❤❤❤
Thanks Mike and Dan! Keep up the good work! I’m getting so excited for the season! I live out west and the Bills are coming here to play the Seahawks! I have a lot of Seahawks friends and family but I’m confident the Bills will win and it be a great game! Go Buffalo 🦬
Because they jealous of Allen he’s very talented numbers 1 and 2 in the league quarter back
I don't know if Addreessen will dress on game day. Will the Bills dress 6 LB? Maybe because of the new kick off rule. I hope he dresses for the home opener.
If you give Allen, Andy Reid he's better
Isn't Josh dating an actress. Pretty sure she's on social media.
Hi guys,,I made note online 3 days ago,inre T Bass and NO person in backup !! we have back ups for EVERY position but for a kicker !!! I'm not saying give up on Bass,,,I'm just saying that we have NO ONE on the backup !! LR
do i think Allen is better than Mahomes? no. do i think Allen is worse than Mahomes? no. trade Mahomes and Josh straight up between the Chefs and our Bills, and i dont see Mahomes accomplishing what he has. NFL is the ultimate team game. we've never really lost because of JA17. zero issues with Josh or his play.
12:56 white couldn’t even make 2nd string in Miami but ofc we hype him up
Did you think that maybe they also made the move to save 3.5 million and that Miami would rather go the cheaper Skylar Thompson? - Dan
Allen in the playoffs has been everything we needed, the Defense has let him down... how can he do more, line up at DE and rush Mahomes also?
Im all for Mike White over Mitch
Is Jenna operating the camera?
My guess is that those 11 players are players who play defense and Josh Allen embarrassed em on the field. That’s the only reason I can think of 🤷🏽♂️
Top 2-5 QBs are interchangeable depending on where you grade them. If anything he is overated by 1 spot 😂 😂
If Allen was out of the top 10 and people are saying he is number 2 or 3 then I could see it.
Mike White!
they signed Jalen Virgil also
Clicked on the video- Hovered for a thumbnail of the podcast shot- NO JENNA- Clicked off the video before Beane could get 6 words in. (came back to write this comment)
Guys, why even bother shooting without Jenna?
Jenna does a great job. But it’s a long season and everybody’s entitled to a little time off.
Like the Mike White signing. Seems like he's got some personality too.
Way to go Mike!
Mike, since you have been the Buffalo Nostradamus, how bout saying the SB is our this year :)
When NFL executives and your peers agree that you’re overrated… there might be some fire with all that smoke!
🤷🏼🤷🏼🤷🏼
Never led the league in passing yards
Never led the league in passing TD’s
Never led the league in completions
Never led the league in completion percentage
Never led the league in passer rating
Never won offensive player of the year
Never won MVP
Never made first team All Pro
What accolades has he won?
2 Pro Bowls?
Really?
He’s very good, not great. Philip Rivers 2.0… with less accolades through his first 6 seasons.
People hating on Bass is stupid. Even if he made the kick all it would have been was a tie and there was plenty of time (more than 13 seconds) for Mahommes to score and the way the D was playing KC would have scored and still possibly won.
Beane just plagiarized his own comments, from last season, when asked about Gabe Davis, after Gabe was in (essentially) the same situation, last season. Look it up. Almost word for word…
Did you goof Mike? I believe Shorter signed with the Raiders, not the Vikings 🤔
Yes I did. I realized after we were done
Question for your "you ask, we answer" podcast. What the hell is on Dan's face?
Bass is the 4th leading scorer in Bills history. I don't get the criticism that same drive Allen fumbled the ball, Diggs dropped one, Shakir dropped one and on third down Josh threw the ball away when he had an open reciever...
People are talking about a missed kick.
VHS or Beta?! 🤔
Bass-0-Matic.......SNL......Fingers Crossed
I dont care who is playing the position, as long as the Kicker is making kicks
frank gore jr should have made the 53 man roster
Alot of ur podcast were misses, so should they cut u guys
Get rid of the Rome picture
And I would not trade Josh for mahomes. Josh doesn't get to be coached by the one of the best offensive minds in nfl history. Plus, local media needs to stop parroting the nutwits of the national media
To answer the last question, ‘why would you not subscribe?’, I’m an out-of-towner, original WNYer. I can’t get enough Bills info. But I don’t and won’t subscribe to SHOUT!. I think they suck royally! But I love you guys and Joe Marino. The rest are just wannabes. It’s just how it is from the ‘outside’ world.🤷♂️
Josh is as good as Ma home if NOT BETTER it is saying JOSH has to play the GAME by himself.Next he showed how GOOD HE IS BY GETTING HIS TEAM TO THE PLAYOFFS SO BITE YOUR TONGUES!!!😍❤💙🏈🔥🌞🌘🍻
Turning this off because I'm tired of the Bass drama.
Josh is great. You can look it up. End of debate.
If they had a Kicker in the summer they wouldn't have had Joe Andreessen. He would have been out in the spring.
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PS,,This my comment BEFORE MIKE heheheheheheheh
Not Dans best day LOL did he get anything correct? It’s like he’s in brain fog 😅 couldn’t recall almost anything correctly
24:26 all the ppl that said Joe was gonna make it was solely just cause he’s from Buffalo you’re lying if you say otherwise
Well, I said it and it wasn’t because he was from Buffalo
Josh at best is 3 Lamar has mvps can’t discount that & of course mahomes at 1
Raiders, not Vikings for shorter
Yeah, I realized after we got done recording
Stupid is as stupid does.
Micah Hyde will be back before the end of the year.
Break glass when necessary #GOBILLS 💙❤
31:04 disagree Hyde hasn’t been the best on the roster at his position in years he’s old and tired let him retire
Well, clearly that wasn’t the opinion of the team. And I don’t think it’s the opinion of anyone who covered the team.
@@BuffaloPlus so Hyde was always better than poyer ??
Hyde maybe has 2-3 games left at most in him before that neck injury does him in. It’s name recognition more than skill at this point
@@Brianp150H thats what I’m saying ppl bang on to the name and love of a guy . He isn’t the same guy and he really wouldn’t come back and be the best safety
Bills are a 9 win team at best
Roger's is better
I enjoy the show but the meta commentary about your overused words is starting to drag the show down in my opinion.
Second
I’d love to see Micah return for a late season push, but the injury is no joke
Third
This season is going to be the most challenging for Josh Allen, Put up or shut up. That it’s. No excuses no excuses.
2nd best qb 😂 are you crazy!! He's better then mahomes! You don't even have to give josh the talent that pat has surrounding him or his defense. Just switch coaches. Give josh Andy Reid or just Spags. Both coaches are 10× better coaches for clutch, big time situational times in a game then ours. I like McDermott but he shrinks in big moments and his butt clinches tighter then the joints jenna rolls the bigger the moment in the game! Let pat win a game with 13 sec left and have his coaches botch the game on him and see how great he still looks. Pats great but not as good as allen and pat don't have to over come terrible coaching. With Josh's skills if he had andy reid he would go down as the greatest player to ever play. And he won't win a superbowl till sean is gone. I been saying it since his 3rd year here. He don't have the clutch gene. Debate that topic. I bet you cant
Charleston Rambo needs to be on this roster he's a great WR
I am sure its in big part a racial thing. Just saying.
It’s jealousy plain and simple
LET'S GO BUFFALO!!!❤️💙🦬🏈
Love the Mike White interview, very clever answer. Buffalo Plus will definitely not be voted overrated! Love your pod! ❤❤