Companies like Shine Armour should be sued for false advertising. The amount of out and out lies they portray in their FB adverts is just astounding. Great video as always Sandro. Many thanks.
One thing I wonder is wouldn't a sheeting finish be more optimal as far as preventing water spots and self drying even if they are slower? I consistently have this idea that may be water beads aren't optimal but as far as I know it's the best that we have
@@jinxtacy You're not wrong sir! It's a battle that randomly comes and goes in the detailing community. "Why" people like beading has been beaten to death. I'm personally in the camp that thinks beading is simply a badge of honor. When you walk through a parking lot in a rain storm, you can quickly tell who takes care of their car and who doesn't. And then AFTER that rainstorm, you can quickly see who takes care of their car by looking at all the water spots everywhere lol
I just want to say, i really love this channel and how its evolving. This channel is a relief for me from my daily grind, and almost leave me in a euphoric state afterwards! I know its weird, but i really enjoy your videos, Sandro.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing so if I understand cheapest big bottle turtle wax is quite good over the higher-priced Ethos Resist only to buff it in and out takes longer and commercial i saw Shine Armor was like magicle product but is t worth to buy as i understand it
Been a user of Both Flex Wax and Resist, I have to say that the application of Resist as a sealant is unmatched. Is easier to apply than some “quick detailers” and has more longevity than your average sealant. Also makes the paint look very nice. The only downside is the price. But the ease of use is worth it in my opinion.
Bought three bottles of Lustre and two Jet. Such amazing products. I'm so Giving Ethos a try in the future, easy if application looks very similar to Jet and Lustre
I’m a big fan, Sandro. Thanks for another great video. I’m also a big fan of TW Graphene Flex. It’s only about $25 here in USA, so much more reasonable. I followed directions on the bottle, and applied 2 coats 24 hrs apart after compounding and polishing. My 2007 Ford looks amazing. The real advantage of the Flex is the “flexible” ways to maintain it. After washing, spray it on and rinse, or spray it on and dry with a towel. Because it is so easy to maintain, the protection last forever. I do this every few maintenance washes, and it’s still going strong.
I always feel your videos give more evenly weighted reviews than a lot of the others. They have a real genuine feel and a lack of unnecessary hype that is refreshing. Keep up the great work!
Hi from Southern California. In 2021 I bought a new Kia k5 GT LINE in passion red paint. Its a beautiful red metallic and have been searching for a wax that made me say WOW. While they all looked nice....there was no WOW for me. THEN last month I tried the Turtle FLEX WAX with graphene. After each panel I was, this is really looking GOOD. After the whole car was done, and our strong Southern California sun was shining on it, I finally said WOW! This flex wax made this paint look spectacular! the metallic was sparkling, and the black paint was just glistening. A little streaky, yes, but 3 days later I washed it and dried it using a nice microfiber towel, and it looked just fantastic, and all the little streaks were completely gone..I wash my cars pretty much once a week, and now almost 3 months later its still beading very nicely. Im 64 and still always hand wax my cars. I dont mind that it takes a little more effort, ELBOW GREASE, to apply this wax, for the incredible way it makes this red paint pop. It also looks great on my grey metallic car too. Great video, informative and fun. Thank you. And the car has been just great, now after 2 years ownership, I like it very much!
Hey hi Sandro, really good video. I've had gr8 experience with the TW Graphene as well both the Seal & Shine and Hybrid Ceramic. I've settled into the same application and removal process with all three as a matter of convenience and habit which gives me equally satisfying results... A dampened microfiber applicator [square] sprayed onto the applicator then applied in a cross hatch pattern to the paint. Then, initial wipe with a soft damp microfiber followed with a fluffy. For me this just works with no fuss with about the same application and removal effort with no streaking or high spots. I especially find using the applicator (may) take a little(?) extra effort/time than just using a towel to apply but I've found that it applies more uniformly which along with the damp towel removal illuminates any streaking AND frustration! I have not used the Graphene as a stand alone per se but as a topper to both the MAX WAX and Hybrid Ceramic with terrific gloss, slickness and shine. As for price...I believe TW has just spoiled us over the years with pricing. I find both the Graphene FLEX and MAX to go a long way and be economical despite it's up front cost. That being said, when comparing the price against other brands they are definitely in the ball park. As for your comments about its value compared to S&S well...you have a point but...I really believe that the FLEX beats it in overall appearance and tactile feel - maybe not durability🤔. All depends on what one is trying to accomplish I guess. Keep up the good work - love your vids and practical approach. From the 'States 💖🇺🇸
Sandro you never let the side down Another great video Without your honest reviews we would be wasting our money just like shine armour best way to say it is ADVERTISING never sold a BAD product TWICE Keep them coming IN Sandro we trust
Thank you for the great review. In my experience with turtle wax I haven’t had any issue applying or leveling the TW following the instructions on the bottle. In fact it has been the easiest product I’ve used. I think you may have over applied it a bit as 2 sprays on an applicator cloth is the max amount for an entire panel. Just my 2cents, and again this was an excellent review.
Great review, I've used TW and had the exact experience as you, found it really hard to remove and took forever to do my large SUV but did find it worth putting in the extra effort as it seems to work well and definitely improved the depth and colour. Thanks Brenton.
First of all, I would like to thank you for all the time and effort you put into theese tests and reviews. I can only imagine the time involved including testing, filming and editing. I have tried a few different ceramic coatings as the newbie that I am. The coating I have on my car now is the Ethos Graphene Matrix coating. If I compare it to Gyeon One and CarPro UK 3.0 Id say that they all perform really good but I think Ethos is the best looking and makes some crazy things with water. But for me Uk 3.0 was the best user experience. So I can not imagine why the dealer would not sell it to you. With that said, pleas people, buy Sandro some coffee!
Excellent video and comparison Sandro! You nailed it right on the head with Flex Wax, good performance but user experience is lacking, I noticed heavy and stubborn streaking especially on nonmetallic reds and blacks, even with the damp wipedown. Resist is better in terms of experience, but still problematic on some of those particular paints. Neither of those I would use as maintenance toppers for any coatings as they are too heavy for that task, Ethos Defy remains a great topper for their Ceramic and Graphene Matrix coatings for me. Shame you weren’t able to get your hands on their Graphene Matrix Pro coating, would have loved to see how it would have fared. I’ve been keeping an eye on a coworkers car that I applied two coats of Ceramic Matrix a while ago who has been maintaining it regularly with Defy and Speed Shine, and it is holding up fantastically.
Thanks mate, really appreciate you adding your own experiences with these products here and I agree with toppers really needing to have a more forgiving application to make them a viable option or else it’s just too taxing and frustrating using them!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing When you need a morale booster, go through Waxmode’s UA-cam archive. When it comes to stateside detailing enthusiasts, he’s on the top of my list. Really knows his stuff, and knows how to communicate results in ways that give viewers confidence in their own detailing efforts.
Did not see the spray turtle wax here, but I did see a liquid paste I bought to try. It was about 30 dollars usd which was a tad on the pricey side for "consumer" level products... but I figured I'd give it a shot. Edit: So I gave the paste wax a try on my driver door, fender and a portion of the hood with... much the same result as said in this video. It's not easy to level down, it smears quite a bit and it literally feels like it's resisting the cloth from moving. The resistance is so much that I worry about marring the clear. That said I found it absolutely necessary with the liquid paste to use a damp cloth as follow up, or the streaks simply would not go away. I didn't get too far before it rained and the product didn't have time to cure. I did apply carnauba prior so I can resume later after this rain is gone. That said the hydrophobic properties I saw immediately after washing with wash/wax ceramic and meguiars gold class was not much more... it was noticeable yes, but it wasn't dramatic enough to seem worth the effort. Though again I didn't have time for it to cure. We'll see after it quits raining and I purchase some better microfibers.
I've used turtle Wax Flex wax and came to all the same conclusions that you did. Seal and shine is darn near just as good. What made me stop using Flex is that I had some problems with water spots that went away when I stopped using it. If it's durability and hydrophobicity you are after, Fusso Coat will give it to you!
Great comparison, Sandro! I have Ethos Resist on my wife's Toyota RAV4, and it's good to see it do so well in your testing. If you get a chance to try it, I think you'd also enjoy Ethos Defy. I think for what it is, I like it even better overall than Resist. Very versatile, and fantastic slickness and gloss. Thanks for all you do, Sandro!
I hope you get to test out the Ethos Graphene Coating, it was a good experience when I applied to my vehicle. Resist is a great topper and their D3FY is such a good all around product. Love the content Sandro.
Great review I cant get any Ethos products in the UK, however TW Seal and Shine is around £3.50 on offer in many places, that's $6.50 Australian! nothing is as good for the price. We have some smaller brands in the UK one of favourites Garage Therapy do some excellent spray sealants just below the big boys price points.
I am glad to see this vid today. I have been looking for a replacement for 303 Graphene & Turtle wax ceramic sprays, which I am not real pleased with the durability or user experience
Totally loved this video…before you finished talking about Turtle Wax Hybrid Flux Capacitor. 😂 ----- Non-related, but thought it was worth sharing: I applied original-formula Fusso to my car last week. I purchased it from Fusso directly- for $30 delivered! I applied it after a full day of 3D One paint correcting. Honestly I can’t see myself leaving this product pairing for a very long time. 3D One IMO is bulletproof as a correction product, especially on soft clear. Pad-dependent, near-infinite working time, and zero dust. Fusso is the most tenacious sealant/wax I’ve ever experienced. And that’s just the application. It flashed instantly in warm South Texas weather, regardless of my garage’s shade and cleanliness. If you have Fusso and it’s above 70*F, apply and remove right then and there. Gloves and and a respirator are an absolute must. Use the foam applicator and care for it like it’s gold. Less product is more every time. Don’t apply to any trim, but you certainly could apply to corrected wheel finishes. Lastly, whatever towels you use to remove the haze, throw them in the trash after. Trust me. Now…the water behavior of this (post-curing) is laugh-inducing. I’ve tried quite a few products of varying technology; there’s nothing I’ve seen that does what Fusso does as a sealant. It’s just bananas. The overall shine is good, but it’s the kind that counts on your ability to cut and polish to a 95%+ level of quality. And if you can do that, then Fusso takes care of that work. Overall what I like about both products are contradictory in nature. 3D saves so much time, grief and error on a not-as-fun phase of the project. Fusso is like an instrument that scares amateurs away but rewards the brave. It illuminates your skills or oversights. I like that, but it isn’t something I’d wanna mess with often. Then again, because it’s so durable, that’s kind of the point. Thanks Sandro for another great video. We continue to get smarter and better because of your content.
An idea for a video for you to do would be for us non professionals by going to the local super cheap auto and picking up product and applicators. Try doing it on a budget. Not all of us can afford a $500 polisher with name brand applicators. It would be good to show if you do it right, you can still have a nice shine on your car.
Great review Sandro👍 Haven't used TW or the shine armour but have used Resist and Defy, personally think Defy is a better overall sealant than resist, but both are great. Cheers Stuart
Here in the UK I use turtle wax dry n shine which must be the seal n shine equivalent. I can pick it up for around £6 so to pay £30 for Flex Wax just doesn’t make sense to me. Shine Armour are just a joke as well, I see their stupid ads popping up on my Instagram all the time. The stuff looks appalling and so are the adverts. Btw this channel is the nuts!
Shine armor is pure junk. Also Avalon King Armor Shield IX is also pure junk. I have the Ethos graphene coating 2.0 but haven't used it, also the Flex wax, haven't use it also, I do plan to though. I'm truly pleased with the Nova Products, Jet, Lustre and Ceramic coating Nova Evo that I haven't used my other brands yet. Ethos products are looking really good my friend. Thanks for the awesome video as also bro, much appreciated. Always looking forward to your next video because of the honestly, it saves me money, time and effort which I am truly grateful. To any viewers out there, Nova Jet is super awesome!!!!!! Try it out for yourself if you get a chance.
If it helps, I applied TurleWax Graphite Spray 5 months ago on my wife's SUV and it's still performing strong. On my own car after 7 months it's starting to fade a bit.
Great comparison mate! Before my own car was coated recently I tested out the TW graphene flex wax, purely out of interest to see whether it lives up to its price tag, all the hype and because it was the first graphene spray coating I had used, and I must say that your experience with this product was fairly similar with mine, application took a while but it did perform exceptionally well, I maintained it with the same coating in a spray on, rinse off method every fortnight, and when it came time for me to remove it, I was thoroughly impressed with its chemical resistance, as I just hadn’t experienced this with most of the other sealants I had used at the time Great work again mate keep it up 🤙
Wow shine armour is complete trash lol. I like ethos defy and turtle wax flex spray sealant. Though I don't think the graphene turtle wax offers much more than the ceramic version or even seal n shine. Good test as always.
Bro, I would like to suggest a video. Ethos D3fy (Defy) vs Ethos Resist!!! I searched google and UA-cam and couldn't fine any videos regarding the two products side by side. I am growing to really like the Ethos products. A friend has the Ethos Graphene V1 coating and used the Ethos Defy as a topper and it's same as the first day it was applied, so awesome products Ethos. Creating a video regarding, How many washes before it's gone, Chemical resistant, Ease of application, Gloss meter testing. I'm just suggested a great future video. Hope you find this helpful. Good luck
Great video Sandro testing using turtle wax max wax as a base on my truck the using flex wax as side so good results big new 3d is working toward being best company they now have Mike Phillips and Yancy they Quit autogeek
I still do not understand the fascination of water beading. I live in a hard water area, water beading simply means the water stays on my car say when it's raining, then when it dries for example overnight i then get watermarks. That's why i think water that sheets rather than beads is a much better option as the water actually leaves the car. Water beads very pretty, but that's it.
Something is up if you get hard water spots from rain, that's not normal. You're right about beading not really mattering though, although I still like it just for fun.
The Ethos stuff is definitely super user friendly and easy to use. I had the Ceramic Wax and wasn't impressed with the beading, it's more of a sheeter. (Just my preference)
Thanks Sandro, I was looking forward to this review. I use turtle wax graphene although I put down a base coat of to the max wax first then use the flex wax as a topper. I’ll wait until the flex wax is finished then look at trying something different. Any suggestions on a different product would be appreciated.
Hope you enjoyed it, and I guess it’s no real secret that I still personally love Nova Jet and Lustre but I’m making my way though a few new products so we’ll see where that leads!
Great video. How do you think these Ceramic Spray waxes compare to traditional and synthetic waxes? In terms of gloss and slickness? Hydrophobic ability isn't much of a concern to me.
Thanks, and in my experience it’s really a case by case situation especially when your focusing in on gloss and slickness which isn’t really the main benefit of these ceramic sealants. So some of these will be slicker and glossier and some more traditional or old school synthetic wax may be more so.
Great video, like and subscribe 👍, the biggest difference between turtle 🐢 and another product's is turtle contains pure graphene when other product's graphene oxide
I wonder if shine armor is some kind of oily base which would cause the cloudiness when applying and winning the smoothness test but would lose miserably in durability.
Thanks, and if you want a super easy no fuss liquid wax that also looks and feels great and is very affordable, have a look at Meguiars Deep Crystal Wax.
Wow Sandro, you really made me laugh when you said Turtle Wax needs to stop having such long names. "Seriously Turtle Wax, you gotta cut that annoying SHIT OUT!!!! "
HI Sandro 2 weeks ago I had my car graphene coated. I had to let it cure for over a week. First wash was just with pressure washer then foam with Bowdens Own SNOW JOB then rinse again with pressure washer then dry with Meguire's supreme shine drying towel. Two days later it had it's first wash with the two bucket system and Bowden's Own Nanolicious Wash firstly again washing car down completely with pressure washer. Then to finish the job I applied Bowden's Own After Glow using a damp microfibre cloth wiping dry with the Bowden's own Drop bear microfibre cloth. It looks great Is there anything else you suggest for me to use now to maintain it and what I should do. I did get some tips from the guy who did my car but I'd like to hear some from you if that's ok mate. Thank you Jeremy Downunder
It sound like you’re completely on top of it! I think being that every coating is a little different and I don’t have prior personal experience with your coating, I would tend to look to the advise you got from the detailer who installed it as to how best main it. The best general advise I can give is regular light washing and maintenance and when you see things like water spot, bird poo and dead bugs, remove them as soon as possible, but like I said it sounds like you’re doing well!
Happy to help mate! In my experience most graphene coatings and sealants currently on the market are still heavily Si02 or silica based with a very small graphene percentage so I would look more towards just using a good top sealant that’s going to complement your coating rather than whether is does or doesn’t have a graphene content 🙂
Thanks, and in my experience unless a sealant specificity states it’s not for matte paint or vinyl it’s tends to work also work quite well on those finishes.
I think it’s fine to use a graphene coating. The truth is that they still seem to be SiO2 based with a little graphene in the mix, so I’d just judge it as a general coating and not worry too much about whether it’s got graphene or not - but yes I still think graphene has a long way to go and it will be interesting to see how it progresses!
Shine Armour I'm sure would be the same formula that was used back in the 80's that you would see dudes lighting up on panels at the Markets or the Melbourne Show......They're just applying a modern sales pitch and using Social Media...........I had Ceramic Coated one of my customers cars about 12 months ago, I filled him in on the do's and don'ts but obviously to some poor people things aren't obvious enough, Went back for a little fix up on his boot lid(Water spots), to my horror he had a car cover on it!!......It had pretty much cut the coating in 2...He then produced a bottle of Shine Armour proudly and "said Iv'e been using this stuff"..............He pretty much paid me for nothing
Hi There Professor ! I Miss O e Product in This Test : Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Wax , Wich Today (Oct 3, 2021) is US$ 38,00, AU$ 51,00, R$ 200,00 (Brazilian Currency: Real). Many Thanks ! Best Regards ! Ed
Great video Sandro! I really enjoy these. 2 questions- my brother has a black car with light swirls. He won’t polish. Do you recommend I get him Ethos Graphene Resist or Turtle Wax Hybrid Black Acrylic wax? Goal is to cover some swirls and give him easy to apply good looking protection. Second, I love Lustre and use it on my car. Is it okay to use Lustre as a drying aid every other wash? Big thanks from San Diego!
Thanks and great to hear that. I haven’t tried TW Black Acrylic so I really can’t compare the two, all I can say is that Ethos Resist seems to perform pretty well here and also have a nice user experience which is important for a beginner. You can certainly use Lustre as a drying after every other wash as it’s great in that process with its fantastic lubrication, so definitely no harm there.
You got better results with tw than i did. Cant figure out why. Decontamination wash Clay bar Compound Ipa 2 layers of max wax and topped with flex wax a week later. Didnt even get 6 weeks out of it. Sad times
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Northern canadian winters are brutal on any kind of protection. The graphene stuff from tw looked beautiful. Just a step behind my car with 2 coats of uk and one coat of sic. But i found megs ultimate too hold up far better.
I shared this video in a Shine Amour advert on Facebook, and funny enough, it got deleted and I was blocked. Not much integrity there, hey. Shame if everyone watching this was to post this review up on their pages hey?! For education purposes, of course!
You should be working very small sections at a time, just a spray or two in each section and immediately wipe it in and buff it off. If you’re struggling a damp cloth can also help.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing do you have any tips for applying with application pad? Btw for spray lsp whats your favorite? Im looking at sonax ceramic spray coating.
They are all SiO2 based, but I don’t think we’ve seen anything all that different or amazing with adding add a dash of graphene to an SiO2 based sealant or coating yet. So I really wouldn’t choose one based on whether or not it it contains it, it’s really more about how it performs.
Spray and rinse with turtle wax. U will be diluting product with water. Meaning if u spray turtle wax on panel and then spray with water. U won't get longevity.
Ethos resist is honestly terrible. It applies easy but thats because it's a diluted detailer. You'd rather just dilute some NV boost v2 and it will perform the same or better for 10x less money
It depends on your definition of extremely easy 🙂 Nova Jet is fairly easy to apply but it still has a bit of tack to it compared to some other less hydrophobic products.
Ok so I’m here because of a earlier video and heard you say you where using paint compounds for polishing the exhaust and I was wondering if that applies to all products like carnauba wax is ok for something like a stainless steel tip?
Wax is fine to use on an exhaust tip but I wouldn’t expect much in term of durability. A ceramic coating would last much longer, but still being such a high temp and contaminated trim, regular cleaning and maintenance is the way to go
Sandro its the fluoride in the water which is reacting to the chemicals in the sealants, maybe try denoised water to see if there's a difference etc. keep up the great work buddy your the best . 🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗✔👌👍😊
Great video I watched almost all your videos. My suggestion can you do a video with the panel flat please 🙏🏾 everyone seems to have all their panels on an angle. We gotta remember every car's has a flat surface too I'm just saying. If you can do that for us please would be appreciated I'm a new subscriber to your channel thanks in advance 😊 cheers
Companies like Shine Armour should be sued for false advertising. The amount of out and out lies they portray in their FB adverts is just astounding. Great video as always Sandro. Many thanks.
Shine Armour
Chemical Guys
= trash
Don’t forget that nextgin shit or whatever it’s called, I don’t understand how people would ever pick that over something like Koch chemie or P&S💀
One thing I wonder is wouldn't a sheeting finish be more optimal as far as preventing water spots and self drying even if they are slower? I consistently have this idea that may be water beads aren't optimal but as far as I know it's the best that we have
@@jinxtacy You're not wrong sir! It's a battle that randomly comes and goes in the detailing community. "Why" people like beading has been beaten to death. I'm personally in the camp that thinks beading is simply a badge of honor. When you walk through a parking lot in a rain storm, you can quickly tell who takes care of their car and who doesn't. And then AFTER that rainstorm, you can quickly see who takes care of their car by looking at all the water spots everywhere lol
Same as F11. That stuff is just horrible
I've recently done an "Adverts vs Reality" vid on Shine Armor Graphene, complete with fire 🔥 and an axe 🪓. 🤣
Torn it to shreds
I just want to say, i really love this channel and how its evolving. This channel is a relief for me from my daily grind, and almost leave me in a euphoric state afterwards! I know its weird, but i really enjoy your videos, Sandro.
Thank you mate, really appreciate hearing that!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing so if I understand cheapest big bottle turtle wax is quite good over the higher-priced Ethos Resist only to buff it in and out takes longer and commercial i saw Shine Armor was like magicle product but is t worth to buy as i understand it
Completely agree. Great comment.
Been a user of Both Flex Wax and Resist, I have to say that the application of Resist as a sealant is unmatched. Is easier to apply than some “quick detailers” and has more longevity than your average sealant. Also makes the paint look very nice.
The only downside is the price. But the ease of use is worth it in my opinion.
Thanks for sharing your our experience and thoughts with it!
Hey, ever tried Nova Jet???
It's super awesome
@@Matthew-yi3bm lustre if one of my favorites
Bought three bottles of Lustre and two Jet. Such amazing products. I'm so Giving Ethos a try in the future, easy if application looks very similar to Jet and Lustre
I’m a big fan, Sandro. Thanks for another great video.
I’m also a big fan of TW Graphene Flex. It’s only about $25 here in USA, so much more reasonable. I followed directions on the bottle, and applied 2 coats 24 hrs apart after compounding and polishing. My 2007 Ford looks amazing. The real advantage of the Flex is the “flexible” ways to maintain it. After washing, spray it on and rinse, or spray it on and dry with a towel. Because it is so easy to maintain, the protection last forever. I do this every few maintenance washes, and it’s still going strong.
Great to hear mate and thank you for sharing!
I always feel your videos give more evenly weighted reviews than a lot of the others. They have a real genuine feel and a lack of unnecessary hype that is refreshing.
Keep up the great work!
Best product reviews by far on car detailing UA-cam!
I loved the casual nature of your tone in this one Sandro. Good to hear your character starting to come through your videos mate.
Hi from Southern California. In 2021 I bought a new Kia k5 GT LINE in passion red paint. Its a beautiful red metallic and have been searching for a wax that made me say WOW. While they all looked nice....there was no WOW for me. THEN last month I tried the Turtle FLEX WAX with graphene. After each panel I was, this is really looking GOOD. After the whole car was done, and our strong Southern California sun was shining on it, I finally said WOW! This flex wax made this paint look spectacular! the metallic was sparkling, and the black paint was just glistening. A little streaky, yes, but 3 days later I washed it and dried it using a nice microfiber towel, and it looked just fantastic, and all the little streaks were completely gone..I wash my cars pretty much once a week, and now almost 3 months later its still beading very nicely. Im 64 and still always hand wax my cars. I dont mind that it takes a little more effort, ELBOW GREASE, to apply this wax, for the incredible way it makes this red paint pop. It also looks great on my grey metallic car too. Great video, informative and fun. Thank you. And the car has been just great, now after 2 years ownership, I like it very much!
Thanks and I really appreciate you sharing your experience with it - seems to have been a winner for you.
The jetting effect of the Shine Armor seemed to disappear rather quickly, at least to my eye. Great comparison Sandro, you are the best!
Damnit I commented before the 14 min mark 😂
Excellent work, as always! Thanks for testing shine armor before i wasted my money.
Hey hi Sandro, really good video. I've had gr8 experience with the TW Graphene as well both the Seal & Shine and Hybrid Ceramic. I've settled into the same application and removal process with all three as a matter of convenience and habit which gives me equally satisfying results...
A dampened microfiber applicator [square] sprayed onto the applicator then applied in a cross hatch pattern to the paint. Then, initial wipe with a soft damp microfiber followed with a fluffy. For me this just works with no fuss with about the same application and removal effort with no streaking or high spots. I especially find using the applicator (may) take a little(?) extra effort/time than just using a towel to apply but I've found that it applies more uniformly which along with the damp towel removal illuminates any streaking AND frustration! I have not used the Graphene as a stand alone per se but as a topper to both the MAX WAX and Hybrid Ceramic with terrific gloss, slickness and shine. As for price...I believe TW has just spoiled us over the years with pricing. I find both the Graphene FLEX and MAX to go a long way and be economical despite it's up front cost. That being said, when comparing the price against other brands they are definitely in the ball park. As for your comments about its value compared to S&S well...you have a point but...I really believe that the FLEX beats it in overall appearance and tactile feel - maybe not durability🤔. All depends on what one is trying to accomplish I guess. Keep up the good work - love your vids and practical approach. From the 'States 💖🇺🇸
Really appreciated reading your own experience, tips and results with it, much of which I’d agree with! Thanks for sharing that!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing yes sir my pleasure.
Sandro you never let the side down Another great video Without your honest reviews we would be wasting our money just like shine armour best way to say it is ADVERTISING never sold a BAD product TWICE Keep them coming IN Sandro we trust
Thanks Bob, always appreciate it mate and yes, I can’t see anyone going back for seconds there lol!
Hi Sandro, I watch lot of detailing channels, but yours is Gold Standard! Thank you!
Appreciate that mate!
Thank you for the great review. In my experience with turtle wax I haven’t had any issue applying or leveling the TW following the instructions on the bottle. In fact it has been the easiest product I’ve used. I think you may have over applied it a bit as 2 sprays on an applicator cloth is the max amount for an entire panel. Just my 2cents, and again this was an excellent review.
Great review, I've used TW and had the exact experience as you, found it really hard to remove and took forever to do my large SUV but did find it worth putting in the extra effort as it seems to work well and definitely improved the depth and colour. Thanks Brenton.
Thanks mate and I appreciate you sharing your own experience with it!
I really enjoyed this test and will continue to use Ethos and Turtle Wax. I do love Erhos defy as it is my go to for door jams and windows.
First of all, I would like to thank you for all the time and effort you put into theese tests and reviews. I can only imagine the time involved including testing, filming and editing.
I have tried a few different ceramic coatings as the newbie that I am. The coating I have on my car now is the Ethos Graphene Matrix coating. If I compare it to Gyeon One and CarPro UK 3.0 Id say that they all perform really good but I think Ethos is the best looking and makes some crazy things with water. But for me Uk 3.0 was the best user experience.
So I can not imagine why the dealer would not sell it to you.
With that said, pleas people, buy Sandro some coffee!
Lol thank you mate, and also thanks for sharing that, it’s great to get personal first hand experiences being shared!
Excellent video and comparison Sandro! You nailed it right on the head with Flex Wax, good performance but user experience is lacking, I noticed heavy and stubborn streaking especially on nonmetallic reds and blacks, even with the damp wipedown. Resist is better in terms of experience, but still problematic on some of those particular paints.
Neither of those I would use as maintenance toppers for any coatings as they are too heavy for that task, Ethos Defy remains a great topper for their Ceramic and Graphene Matrix coatings for me. Shame you weren’t able to get your hands on their Graphene Matrix Pro coating, would have loved to see how it would have fared. I’ve been keeping an eye on a coworkers car that I applied two coats of Ceramic Matrix a while ago who has been maintaining it regularly with Defy and Speed Shine, and it is holding up fantastically.
waxmode... miss your channel content .hope all is well
Thanks mate, really appreciate you adding your own experiences with these products here and I agree with toppers really needing to have a more forgiving application to make them a viable option or else it’s just too taxing and frustrating using them!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing When you need a morale booster, go through Waxmode’s UA-cam archive. When it comes to stateside detailing enthusiasts, he’s on the top of my list. Really knows his stuff, and knows how to communicate results in ways that give viewers confidence in their own detailing efforts.
Did not see the spray turtle wax here, but I did see a liquid paste I bought to try. It was about 30 dollars usd which was a tad on the pricey side for "consumer" level products... but I figured I'd give it a shot.
Edit: So I gave the paste wax a try on my driver door, fender and a portion of the hood with... much the same result as said in this video. It's not easy to level down, it smears quite a bit and it literally feels like it's resisting the cloth from moving. The resistance is so much that I worry about marring the clear. That said I found it absolutely necessary with the liquid paste to use a damp cloth as follow up, or the streaks simply would not go away.
I didn't get too far before it rained and the product didn't have time to cure. I did apply carnauba prior so I can resume later after this rain is gone. That said the hydrophobic properties I saw immediately after washing with wash/wax ceramic and meguiars gold class was not much more... it was noticeable yes, but it wasn't dramatic enough to seem worth the effort. Though again I didn't have time for it to cure. We'll see after it quits raining and I purchase some better microfibers.
I've used turtle Wax Flex wax and came to all the same conclusions that you did. Seal and shine is darn near just as good. What made me stop using Flex is that I had some problems with water spots that went away when I stopped using it. If it's durability and hydrophobicity you are after, Fusso Coat will give it to you!
Ahhh yesss I love to see another upload
Wish you'd go back to the old intro, loved it more
Ethos for the win! It's a brilliant product. Great topper for Fusso Coat too, amazing loss, slickness and water behaviour.
Great comparison, Sandro! I have Ethos Resist on my wife's Toyota RAV4, and it's good to see it do so well in your testing. If you get a chance to try it, I think you'd also enjoy Ethos Defy. I think for what it is, I like it even better overall than Resist. Very versatile, and fantastic slickness and gloss. Thanks for all you do, Sandro!
Thank you mate and I’ll definitely be trying to test some more of the brand in the future!
Thanks for another great review Sandro!
Thank you my friend!
I hope you get to test out the Ethos Graphene Coating, it was a good experience when I applied to my vehicle. Resist is a great topper and their D3FY is such a good all around product. Love the content Sandro.
Looking forward to the videos coming up comparing past well performing sealants! Keep up the great work mate.
Great review I cant get any Ethos products in the UK, however TW Seal and Shine is around £3.50 on offer in many places, that's $6.50 Australian! nothing is as good for the price. We have some smaller brands in the UK one of favourites Garage Therapy do some excellent spray sealants just below the big boys price points.
Shine Armor= Snake Oil
I am glad to see this vid today. I have been looking for a replacement for 303 Graphene & Turtle wax ceramic sprays, which I am not real pleased with the durability or user experience
Hope it helped you out!
Great as always
Totally loved this video…before you finished talking about Turtle Wax Hybrid Flux Capacitor. 😂
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Non-related, but thought it was worth sharing: I applied original-formula Fusso to my car last week. I purchased it from Fusso directly- for $30 delivered!
I applied it after a full day of 3D One paint correcting. Honestly I can’t see myself leaving this product pairing for a very long time. 3D One IMO is bulletproof as a correction product, especially on soft clear. Pad-dependent, near-infinite working time, and zero dust.
Fusso is the most tenacious sealant/wax I’ve ever experienced. And that’s just the application. It flashed instantly in warm South Texas weather, regardless of my garage’s shade and cleanliness. If you have Fusso and it’s above 70*F, apply and remove right then and there. Gloves and and a respirator are an absolute must. Use the foam applicator and care for it like it’s gold. Less product is more every time. Don’t apply to any trim, but you certainly could apply to corrected wheel finishes. Lastly, whatever towels you use to remove the haze, throw them in the trash after. Trust me.
Now…the water behavior of this (post-curing) is laugh-inducing. I’ve tried quite a few products of varying technology; there’s nothing I’ve seen that does what Fusso does as a sealant. It’s just bananas. The overall shine is good, but it’s the kind that counts on your ability to cut and polish to a 95%+ level of quality. And if you can do that, then Fusso takes care of that work.
Overall what I like about both products are contradictory in nature. 3D saves so much time, grief and error on a not-as-fun phase of the project. Fusso is like an instrument that scares amateurs away but rewards the brave. It illuminates your skills or oversights. I like that, but it isn’t something I’d wanna mess with often. Then again, because it’s so durable, that’s kind of the point.
Thanks Sandro for another great video. We continue to get smarter and better because of your content.
Fantastic write up and really appreciate you sharing your personally experience with those two products, thank you mate!
An idea for a video for you to do would be for us non professionals by going to the local super cheap auto and picking up product and applicators. Try doing it on a budget. Not all of us can afford a $500 polisher with name brand applicators.
It would be good to show if you do it right, you can still have a nice shine on your car.
Great review Sandro👍
Haven't used TW or the shine armour but have used Resist and Defy, personally think Defy is a better overall sealant than resist, but both are great.
Cheers Stuart
Maestro: Great video!!!. Greetings from Monterrey México 🇲🇽
Thank you my friend!
Here in the UK I use turtle wax dry n shine which must be the seal n shine equivalent. I can pick it up for around £6 so to pay £30 for Flex Wax just doesn’t make sense to me. Shine Armour are just a joke as well, I see their stupid ads popping up on my Instagram all the time. The stuff looks appalling and so are the adverts. Btw this channel is the nuts!
Hats off to your kids hearing your voice when you read them a bedtime story. Haha.. just kidding Sandro!
Shine armor is pure junk.
Also Avalon King Armor Shield IX is also pure junk.
I have the Ethos graphene coating 2.0 but haven't used it, also the Flex wax, haven't use it also, I do plan to though.
I'm truly pleased with the Nova Products, Jet, Lustre and Ceramic coating Nova Evo that I haven't used my other brands yet.
Ethos products are looking really good my friend. Thanks for the awesome video as also bro, much appreciated.
Always looking forward to your next video because of the honestly, it saves me money, time and effort which I am truly grateful.
To any viewers out there, Nova Jet is super awesome!!!!!! Try it out for yourself if you get a chance.
If it helps, I applied TurleWax Graphite Spray 5 months ago on my wife's SUV and it's still performing strong. On my own car after 7 months it's starting to fade a bit.
I appreciate you sharing that with others and sounds like a great long lasting result.
wow, your Turtlewax price is double of Canada. !!! Glad you called out Shine Armour for their expensive snake oil! ;-)- Ethos did pretty good! Nice
We don't live next door to America, So the postage and tax adds up.
@@ilikechickensausages2075 yep! i guess,
The cost of living here in Australia is some of the highest in the world..
I have Ethos defy and it is a nice maintenance product. Haven't used it as a stand alone, but it is a great topper. Thanks Sandro 👍
It would be nice to how Turtle Wax and Ethos compare to NV Lustre and Jet.
Hi Sandro, awesome review as usual! What I’d like to see is also how easy the water can be removed using a air blower.
Thanks Sandro
You can tell Sandro has had enough with the gimmick bs 😂😂 Killer content mate
Great comparison mate!
Before my own car was coated recently I tested out the TW graphene flex wax, purely out of interest to see whether it lives up to its price tag, all the hype and because it was the first graphene spray coating I had used, and I must say that your experience with this product was fairly similar with mine, application took a while but it did perform exceptionally well, I maintained it with the same coating in a spray on, rinse off method every fortnight, and when it came time for me to remove it, I was thoroughly impressed with its chemical resistance, as I just hadn’t experienced this with most of the other sealants I had used at the time
Great work again mate keep it up 🤙
Great to hear and thanks for sharing that mate!
Wow shine armour is complete trash lol. I like ethos defy and turtle wax flex spray sealant. Though I don't think the graphene turtle wax offers much more than the ceramic version or even seal n shine. Good test as always.
and people praise the shine armour based on what they said and have never tried good paint protection lol
Bro,
I would like to suggest a video.
Ethos D3fy (Defy) vs Ethos Resist!!!
I searched google and UA-cam and couldn't fine any videos regarding the two products side by side.
I am growing to really like the Ethos products. A friend has the Ethos Graphene V1 coating and used the Ethos Defy as a topper and it's same as the first day it was applied, so awesome products Ethos.
Creating a video regarding,
How many washes before it's gone,
Chemical resistant,
Ease of application,
Gloss meter testing.
I'm just suggested a great future video.
Hope you find this helpful.
Good luck
Great video Sandro testing using turtle wax max wax as a base on my truck the using flex wax as side so good results big new 3d is working toward being best company they now have Mike Phillips and Yancy they Quit autogeek
That's correct!
I still do not understand the fascination of water beading. I live in a hard water area, water beading simply means the water stays on my car say when it's raining, then when it dries for example overnight i then get watermarks. That's why i think water that sheets rather than beads is a much better option as the water actually leaves the car. Water beads very pretty, but that's it.
Ethos Graphene coating.......look it up
Something is up if you get hard water spots from rain, that's not normal. You're right about beading not really mattering though, although I still like it just for fun.
The Ethos stuff is definitely super user friendly and easy to use. I had the Ceramic Wax and wasn't impressed with the beading, it's more of a sheeter. (Just my preference)
That's exactly my impression per experience too with it.👍👌
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the video 🤟 i have the ethos resist it works awesome but i also have the ethos defy and is incredibly good you should try it out...
Thanks Sandro, I was looking forward to this review. I use turtle wax graphene although I put down a base coat of to the max wax first then use the flex wax as a topper. I’ll wait until the flex wax is finished then look at trying something different. Any suggestions on a different product would be appreciated.
Hope you enjoyed it, and I guess it’s no real secret that I still personally love Nova Jet and Lustre but I’m making my way though a few new products so we’ll see where that leads!
Shine armor never disappoints!
Hey Sandro! I hope you and the family are well. Fantastic comparison video of two legit sealants and some snake oil. 😂 Crazy!
Cheers mate…☕️
Thanks Chad and yes that’s good summary of the results! Hope all is well on your side of the ocean!
Great video. How do you think these Ceramic Spray waxes compare to traditional and synthetic waxes? In terms of gloss and slickness? Hydrophobic ability isn't much of a concern to me.
Thanks, and in my experience it’s really a case by case situation especially when your focusing in on gloss and slickness which isn’t really the main benefit of these ceramic sealants. So some of these will be slicker and glossier and some more traditional or old school synthetic wax may be more so.
Fantastic informative video! I'd love to see you test and compare Bowden's Own Bead Machine against these similar sprays!
Another great review sandro graphite what's next on the market
Thank you for the video :)
Wait is that f11 in the middle lol. Great video, much love from Minnesota, U.S.A
🙂
Great video, like and subscribe 👍, the biggest difference between turtle 🐢 and another product's is turtle contains pure graphene when other product's graphene oxide
Thanks for detail test
I wonder if shine armor is some kind of oily base which would cause the cloudiness when applying and winning the smoothness test but would lose miserably in durability.
Shine Armour...pretty ordinary, shocked to see the bare paint masking strips sheeting the water faster than the Shine Armour sealed section.
Nice video. Which easy to apply product do you think is the best to apply on a car, after washing, that will give it super shine and some protection.
Thanks, and if you want a super easy no fuss liquid wax that also looks and feels great and is very affordable, have a look at Meguiars Deep Crystal Wax.
Wow Sandro, you really made me laugh when you said Turtle Wax needs to stop having such long names.
"Seriously Turtle Wax, you gotta cut that annoying SHIT OUT!!!! "
Can you post a video explaining what products you use and what you think is best for spray and other stuff like that, something updated
There’s quite a few videos on the channel showing the products I personally use but I will try to do a more dedicated video on that topic
Pls make video for normal ppl who just wash a car at home with basic stuff
HI Sandro 2 weeks ago I had my car graphene coated. I had to let it cure for over a week. First wash was just with pressure washer then foam with Bowdens Own SNOW JOB then rinse again with pressure washer then dry with Meguire's supreme shine drying towel. Two days later it had it's first wash with the two bucket system and Bowden's Own Nanolicious Wash firstly again washing car down completely with pressure washer. Then to finish the job I applied Bowden's Own After Glow using a damp microfibre cloth wiping dry with the Bowden's own Drop bear microfibre cloth. It looks great Is there anything else you suggest for me to use now to maintain it and what I should do. I did get some tips from the guy who did my car but I'd like to hear some from you if that's ok mate. Thank you Jeremy Downunder
It sound like you’re completely on top of it!
I think being that every coating is a little different and I don’t have prior personal experience with your coating, I would tend to look to the advise you got from the detailer who installed it as to how best main it. The best general advise I can give is regular light washing and maintenance and when you see things like water spot, bird poo and dead bugs, remove them as soon as possible, but like I said it sounds like you’re doing well!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thanks Sandro should I use a graphene spray as well to maintain the coating.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing thank you sorry to bother you I just want to take care of my investment as best I can I love my car. Jeremy Downunder
Happy to help mate!
In my experience most graphene coatings and sealants currently on the market are still heavily Si02 or silica based with a very small graphene percentage so I would look more towards just using a good top sealant that’s going to complement your coating rather than whether is does or doesn’t have a graphene content 🙂
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thank you Sandro
Thank you for these videos Sandro! Would these Spray waxes/sealants work on vinyl wrapped vehicles? Thanks!
Thanks, and in my experience unless a sealant specificity states it’s not for matte paint or vinyl it’s tends to work also work quite well on those finishes.
Great review I enjoyed this video.
Sandra would you recommend a graphene ceramic coat yet? or the tech still developing?
I think it’s fine to use a graphene coating. The truth is that they still seem to be SiO2 based with a little graphene in the mix, so I’d just judge it as a general coating and not worry too much about whether it’s got graphene or not - but yes I still think graphene has a long way to go and it will be interesting to see how it progresses!
I'm halfway through my Meguiar's HCW. Is it worth ditching for the tw Graphene product?
I think it’s fine, interesting and exciting to try new products but I don’t think TW Graphene is going to superior To HCW
Shine Armour I'm sure would be the same formula that was used back in the 80's that you would see dudes lighting up on panels at the Markets or the Melbourne Show......They're just applying a modern sales pitch and using Social Media...........I had Ceramic Coated one of my customers cars about 12 months ago, I filled him in on the do's and don'ts but obviously to some poor people things aren't obvious enough, Went back for a little fix up on his boot lid(Water spots), to my horror he had a car cover on it!!......It had pretty much cut the coating in 2...He then produced a bottle of Shine Armour proudly and "said Iv'e been using this stuff"..............He pretty much paid me for nothing
Hopefully he at least learnt a good lesson there!
Hi There Professor !
I Miss O e Product in This Test :
Meguiar’s Hybrid Ceramic Wax ,
Wich Today (Oct 3, 2021) is US$ 38,00, AU$ 51,00, R$ 200,00 (Brazilian Currency: Real).
Many Thanks !
Best Regards !
Ed
Great video Sandro! I really enjoy these. 2 questions- my brother has a black car with light swirls. He won’t polish. Do you recommend I get him Ethos Graphene Resist or Turtle Wax Hybrid Black Acrylic wax? Goal is to cover some swirls and give him easy to apply good looking protection. Second, I love Lustre and use it on my car. Is it okay to use Lustre as a drying aid every other wash?
Big thanks from San Diego!
Thanks and great to hear that.
I haven’t tried TW Black Acrylic so I really can’t compare the two, all I can say is that Ethos Resist seems to perform pretty well here and also have a nice user experience which is important for a beginner.
You can certainly use Lustre as a drying after every other wash as it’s great in that process with its fantastic lubrication, so definitely no harm there.
You got better results with tw than i did. Cant figure out why.
Decontamination wash
Clay bar
Compound
Ipa
2 layers of max wax and topped with flex wax a week later.
Didnt even get 6 weeks out of it. Sad times
That’s a shame to hear, especially considering it sounds like you put a lot of work in to get the prep right!
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Northern canadian winters are brutal on any kind of protection.
The graphene stuff from tw looked beautiful. Just a step behind my car with 2 coats of uk and one coat of sic. But i found megs ultimate too hold up far better.
I find that TW Flex Wax applied to bare paint lasts much longer than when it’s applied as a topper for To The Max Wax.
@@johng753 it seemed too hurt the max wax which was doing fine up until then.
I havent tried it bare yet too be honest.
Shine Armor claims that in order to preserve their sealant qualities, cars must be washed just mentally 💆what a disgusting product.
I shared this video in a Shine Amour advert on Facebook, and funny enough, it got deleted and I was blocked. Not much integrity there, hey. Shame if everyone watching this was to post this review up on their pages hey?! For education purposes, of course!
Will try them one day :)
Any tips for buffing the turtle wax flax?
It took be an hour just to buff off
You should be working very small sections at a time, just a spray or two in each section and immediately wipe it in and buff it off. If you’re struggling a damp cloth can also help.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing do you have any tips for applying with application pad?
Btw for spray lsp whats your favorite?
Im looking at sonax ceramic spray coating.
Would you recommend the good quality Graphene or SiO2?
They are all SiO2 based, but I don’t think we’ve seen anything all that different or amazing with adding add a dash of graphene to an SiO2 based sealant or coating yet. So I really wouldn’t choose one based on whether or not it it contains it, it’s really more about how it performs.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Ahhhh I see, cheers for the reply.
Thank you Sandro, just wondering of 303's graphene spray sealant would be the same with turtle wax's etc. :)
I’ll try to include 303 graphene in a future video.
Spray and rinse with turtle wax. U will be diluting product with water. Meaning if u spray turtle wax on panel and then spray with water. U won't get longevity.
What is the product that gave most friction reduction that you've tested?
Nova Lustre would be up there
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thanks!
Gone with just the water, lol Shine Armor 🤣
Thanks
Would you recommend the turtle wax over the NV Car care nova series you use in other videos?
Probably not, Nova Jet and Lustre are still up there amongst my favourites.
@@CarCraftAutoDetailing Thanks! The NV products look good, are they Australian made/owned?
Yes Nv is an Aussie owned brand but I think various products are both Australian and internationally made.
There is another guy that did a 1.5 year tests on graphene finishes. Ethos lasted much longer than TW. Not a fanboy here…just some real world results.
I've been told that turtle wax have outsourced their product naming to fall out boy
Ethos resist is honestly terrible. It applies easy but thats because it's a diluted detailer. You'd rather just dilute some NV boost v2 and it will perform the same or better for 10x less money
Sandro, have you ever come across an extremely user friendly products with top tier hydrophobics, or is that sort of an oxymoron? Thank you sir
It depends on your definition of extremely easy 🙂
Nova Jet is fairly easy to apply but it still has a bit of tack to it compared to some other less hydrophobic products.
Ok so I’m here because of a earlier video and heard you say you where using paint compounds for polishing the exhaust and I was wondering if that applies to all products like carnauba wax is ok for something like a stainless steel tip?
Wax is fine to use on an exhaust tip but I wouldn’t expect much in term of durability. A ceramic coating would last much longer, but still being such a high temp and contaminated trim, regular cleaning and maintenance is the way to go
I saw de shine armor products in facebook and Instagram ads, and my thoughts was that this brand was rabbish. After see this video I think the same
Sandro its the fluoride in the water which is reacting to the chemicals in the sealants, maybe try denoised water to see if there's a difference etc. keep up the great work buddy your the best . 🚗🚗🚗🚗🚗✔👌👍😊
Great video I watched almost all your videos. My suggestion can you do a video with the panel flat please 🙏🏾 everyone seems to have all their panels on an angle. We gotta remember every car's has a flat surface too I'm just saying. If you can do that for us please would be appreciated I'm a new subscriber to your channel thanks in advance 😊 cheers
Did you let the shine armour cure for 4 hours prior to testing
I think he said it cured for 3 full days
He let the panel cure for 3 days.
72hrs 🙂
Ethos over TW any day. However, I think nova Jet and Lustra are way better.
Shine Armour only wins on advertising dollars spent. How about a comparison on a "Ceramic Topper"