After missing out on haliburton last year by just a couple of points I’m glad I pushed my pass accuracy to 89. Yeah LeBron was cool and magic Johnson looked cool but with 2k those animations would usually get stopped by locks due to its windup
It's crazy that at a 99 pass accuracy the average score is still only 2.3. This game is built to discourage passing. With 99 pass accuracy you still end up throwing the ball straight out of bounds, or randomly into a defenders back after getting a weird pass animation. If I invest 99 whole points into my passing, I should never misplace a simple straight line pass!
I have a 95 pass acc. For gold versatile visionary and I can tell a huge difference in how fast I get my passes off. I feel like it combines a bunch of badges from last year like touch passer, special delivery, and needle threader. That’s why it takes 99 pass accuracy to get it to legend and why dimer only takes 98. If you could test my theory tutes I would appreciate it.
I think versatile visionary combats intercepter if you read the description, you have to have high steals to get HOF or legend so you would need a high pass HOF or legend versatile visionary, a well timed HOF interception will out do a silver VV, my build is HOF but i also have good IQ, if you see someone open most likely they do too so wait for them to go for it But it is crazy how you can get intercepter gold at 85 but takes a 95 for VV But tutes you should test VV vs interception stats
I have 89 pass and notice a ton of defenders getting STUNNED when they try to intercept. I’m messing around with +1 badge on Dimer and VV trying to figure which is better, but honestly it might not even be necessary with how good 89 feels
@@The0nlyyI got a 89 also I’m going to cap breaker my build to get a 99 pass on this I hate getting turnovers and have when people miss open pass shots when I could’ve just took the shot my self but I don’t play selfish like that so I just want everything on legendary helps me win most my games having dimer on gold or hof with a +1 plus lane steals are most likely gonna get nerfed so when they do I’ll probably be able to average like 10 ast+ a game without getting 4 turn overs off people turning into Superman and flying to my passes that they shouldn’t be able to grab at all 💀
The way interceptor is this year, i just got out the habit of just slinging down court especially right after a board. A little patience and maybe a quick push dribble with LBJ pass style does me just fine.
If your pg is like mine, i just rb A everything. The pg i run with doesn't run straight at the defense. I rb A before the screen is completely turned and let him make the decision. He is normally at half court or heading to the basket depending on if defense gets back or not.
I'm at 89 and was gonna use some of my cap breaker on it, but it's not looking worth it at the moment. Really depends how good the badges are. I'm averaging 11 assist but these lanes are wild.
As a pass first PG, with the way interceptor works this year I'm happy that i went 91 to get Hali pass style, silver VV, and silver Bail Out. Most PGs i face have low passing as evident by there being relatively few builds with "playmaker" in the name.
The problem is the builder is unbalanced. Steal is WAY cheaper than pass acc, so 95% of guards at least have an 85 steal. And the main problem is at 85 steal you get gold intercepter, while at 85 pass acc (which is more expensive) you still have bronze visionary 😂😂😂. You can’t even sacrifice steal to get more pass acc in the builder, it’s a joke
Because passing is expensive af. Nobody putting points into passing until late. The cost of pass rating makes no sense at all, especially with how cheap steal is
If you are going low pass acc dont go lower than 78, and you still have be smart with the passes you choose to take. 82 for gold dimer if you can squeeze it out.
The absolute minimum has to be 78 where u get bronze VV(i know some ppl say 85 for bronze BO but in my opinion, BO is a niche badge and if ur making a build bc u need that badge, ur already in trouble bc u shouldn't be game planning to pass out of shot attempts enough for it to be relevant) and seeing content creators giving ppl builds with like 71 or sometimes lower is just baffling to me
@@marstuntz4331 if u plan on really being on the glass getting rebounds gold break starter but if u not rebounding silver break starter should be straight
Can you please do a test on the bail out badge? I cant find any content online, wondering if there is any value in going super high in passing. Love your content, thanks!
Excellent tasting man, we all really appreciate how you put in this monotonous time testing mechanics when you could be playing and enjoying the game but it means we all can make better builds! One of THE top guys in the community!
Pls do a quick test in your height vs contest method that we can see how 6‘2 performes because between 6‘1 and 6‘3 is a huge gap and i realy need to know if 6‘2 is good or bad… Thank you i realy appreciate your work and time a lot! 🙏🏼
Amazing video, could you do a test on paint patroller and its affect on interior contest? I want to go no block and high interior and see if I really need to have the badge or not.
Doesn't matter what it is with the way lane steals are. Everyone saying they want realistic but people with 85 plus steal launch halfway across the court. Ga.e needs a couple changes and shooting isn't the worst
Still have to make smart passes. I have a 99 steak and although I creep a lot of passes too it doesn't mean you can launch your passes are untouchable by defenses. THAT would be unrealistic. Still wondering where everyone is seeing mfs launch across the court? I've yet to see it. Might be because my pass is 99 that I get away with a lot
I have an 89 haliburton and you still get hawked bro might as well put them points on 99 steal cuz that’s all 2k wants to reward this year. Trash ahh game give us our green window back
@sunsettim9106 Then don't throw into the lane. I know there's a bug that happens once in a full moon where people basically teleport into the passing lane... However, the rest is your fault. They made it to where animations in passing lanes actually make sense. It used to be that you guys could get away with bad passes because even with high interceptor, players would get really bad/slow animations that would literally never happen from an NBA player. Now, people can actually steal the ball when reading the pass is coming. It's your fault 90% of the time if you're getting those turnovers. Stop throwing into the passing lane if the defender is there. That's bball 101. Fake a pass every once in a while if people are spamming, it'll send them into the next dimension, leaving your teammate wide open.
Can you test the playmaking takeover? Does it help with teammates jump shots, alley oops and flashy passes? Which does it increase the most? Does it increase pass speed, improve catch animations?
I have a 82 pass with Trae young style and man it throws dots. There are times when the catch isn’t the best but I bet at 85 or 89 it’s perfect damn near
My PF build is awesome...but one thing I regret is only maxing 70 pass accuracy. This was more than enough in previous 2K's for a secondary ballhandler in park...but in 2K25 it sucks. My passes are always half a second late, and just feel sloppy
On my build i get a max pass accuracy of 76 and I haven’t upgraded it yet one of the last things im gonna upgrade and personally i have been absolutely fine throwing any type of pass you can think of
Man i was messing around in the buider and made a cold pg 2 way playmaking sharpshooter but im nervous to upgrade it because its a 5'9 i been playing on a 6'4
Bro do not waste your bread on a 5’9 unless you’re comp asf and run with a team in proam on the regular. That’s a very niche build for a specific type of gamer
@tjf.994 I've always ran a small guard just not that small I usually go 6'0 for my pg builds I know I can play on the build the only thing I was worried about is the contest system this year I'm worried people are just gonna shoot over me even if I play good defense
@@Jay-i2s9l 85 perimeter, I can still play good defense but if the offensive player gets in his shooting form before I put my hand up every slightly late close out is an open shot
Tutes >> 2k labs
Always said this bro they stole some of his ways to test stuff as well😂
Why would I choose between this one or that one
When I know that I can have both? - J Cole
Facts
@@Vocgodly bro his work rate is nuts, always dropping new meaningful tests
@@nh9036 ikr people are so silly 😂
Tutes putting in hella work this year lol
Thanks for the appreciation!
@@nba2ktutes thank YOU for the hard work fam 🙏🏾
Yeah appreciate bro bro
I’ve been watching this man cook since 20
As a pass first pg…I honestly hate not having a 89 and the fact passing cost more than dunks this year. That Ja morant style is trash. 🤦🏾♂️
85 , with LeBron pass style is straight bro bro
@@SupaSRT lebron is trash too. Too many windups. Tyrese has the best style by far
What would you recommend for pass style?
@@fortituderealtygroup9873 if you have IQ you can pass with Ja Morant
use dearon fox if you don't have Hali. Bron and ja suck this year.
After missing out on haliburton last year by just a couple of points I’m glad I pushed my pass accuracy to 89. Yeah LeBron was cool and magic Johnson looked cool but with 2k those animations would usually get stopped by locks due to its windup
It's crazy that at a 99 pass accuracy the average score is still only 2.3. This game is built to discourage passing. With 99 pass accuracy you still end up throwing the ball straight out of bounds, or randomly into a defenders back after getting a weird pass animation. If I invest 99 whole points into my passing, I should never misplace a simple straight line pass!
Don’t sleep on bounce passes. The animations are super crisp
Always been like that too fr
Felt like they buffed them this year they been so mid for a while now
Facts. If you know how to pass , they rarely ever get stolen
@@SwooshGxdthey were good last year too. Lamelo style bounce pass was goated
such a great pass
I have a 95 pass acc. For gold versatile visionary and I can tell a huge difference in how fast I get my passes off. I feel like it combines a bunch of badges from last year like touch passer, special delivery, and needle threader. That’s why it takes 99 pass accuracy to get it to legend and why dimer only takes 98. If you could test my theory tutes I would appreciate it.
Valid theory
I think versatile visionary combats intercepter if you read the description, you have to have high steals to get HOF or legend so you would need a high pass HOF or legend versatile visionary, a well timed HOF interception will out do a silver VV, my build is HOF but i also have good IQ, if you see someone open most likely they do too so wait for them to go for it
But it is crazy how you can get intercepter gold at 85 but takes a 95 for VV
But tutes you should test VV vs interception stats
I have 89 pass and notice a ton of defenders getting STUNNED when they try to intercept. I’m messing around with +1 badge on Dimer and VV trying to figure which is better, but honestly it might not even be necessary with how good 89 feels
@@The0nlyyI got a 89 also I’m going to cap breaker my build to get a 99 pass on this I hate getting turnovers and have when people miss open pass shots when I could’ve just took the shot my self but I don’t play selfish like that so I just want everything on legendary helps me win most my games having dimer on gold or hof with a +1 plus lane steals are most likely gonna get nerfed so when they do I’ll probably be able to average like 10 ast+ a game without getting 4 turn overs off people turning into Superman and flying to my passes that they shouldn’t be able to grab at all 💀
Need that video results update
Thank you, Tutes!! I also appreciate you keeping it short and simple!
thanks for the appreciation! That's always the vision. 5 minute videos feel like eternity to me lol
Ppl stopping at 85 for bail out costed themselves, silver VV and haliburton pass style are a must for pgs
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I have 85 with LeBron pass style trust is 🔥🔥🔥
I'll probably use 4 cap breaker points to get to 89 tbh.
@@SupaSRT trust me it’s not 😂 ran 85 for awhile until I could get to my 89 and it’s a different level
@@KingInTraining I hear you @ the end of the day depends on your build and playing style. But of course 89 better then 85
Can you test Dimer next?
I really like Mike Conley passing style so far, give it a try if you guys have 90 passing and haven't tried it yet.
Ew
@@PetroleumJellyJuggernaut Haven't seen a single bad pass, breaks, bounce passes, chest passes and more have all been great.
@@guod2khali just better
@@bonystickmanking1250 I actually preferred Mike Conley after using it.
What about chris paul
Posteriser badge👀
The way interceptor is this year, i just got out the habit of just slinging down court especially right after a board. A little patience and maybe a quick push dribble with LBJ pass style does me just fine.
If your pg is like mine, i just rb A everything. The pg i run with doesn't run straight at the defense. I rb A before the screen is completely turned and let him make the decision. He is normally at half court or heading to the basket depending on if defense gets back or not.
Hey want to know which one js bettter between Hali and Chris Paul and Mike Conley
I'm at 89 and was gonna use some of my cap breaker on it, but it's not looking worth it at the moment. Really depends how good the badges are. I'm averaging 11 assist but these lanes are wild.
Same here I went 90 on my big I should have went 87 passes still get stolen .
As a pass first PG, with the way interceptor works this year I'm happy that i went 91 to get Hali pass style, silver VV, and silver Bail Out.
Most PGs i face have low passing as evident by there being relatively few builds with "playmaker" in the name.
The problem is the builder is unbalanced. Steal is WAY cheaper than pass acc, so 95% of guards at least have an 85 steal. And the main problem is at 85 steal you get gold intercepter, while at 85 pass acc (which is more expensive) you still have bronze visionary 😂😂😂. You can’t even sacrifice steal to get more pass acc in the builder, it’s a joke
Because passing is expensive af. Nobody putting points into passing until late. The cost of pass rating makes no sense at all, especially with how cheap steal is
Tutes and 2klabs !!!! Appreciate both you guys for all the info and testing
This actually makes sense in terms of the speed and acc
Appreciate you over the years
65 all you need . 7’3 paint beast I hardly get 1+ TO. I play rec & 2s along with my all around 6’7 popper
If you are going low pass acc dont go lower than 78, and you still have be smart with the passes you choose to take. 82 for gold dimer if you can squeeze it out.
Tutes u going crazy hard with these videos much respect. Every time I click on UA-cam u got another one
Appreciate all the hard work. We know you spend a lot of time getting this stuff right
The absolute minimum has to be 78 where u get bronze VV(i know some ppl say 85 for bronze BO but in my opinion, BO is a niche badge and if ur making a build bc u need that badge, ur already in trouble bc u shouldn't be game planning to pass out of shot attempts enough for it to be relevant) and seeing content creators giving ppl builds with like 71 or sometimes lower is just baffling to me
I hate some of the content creator builds misleading people saying stuff like u should be just fine with this rating
I’m a pass first iso lock and I only play 2s, 60 pass accuracy is perfectly fine, I used 56 last year.
Bail out is good as I do a euro step layup but bail out and 80% off the time someone leaves a man open
What should I put my passing for my 7’0 all around
@@marstuntz4331 if u plan on really being on the glass getting rebounds gold break starter but if u not rebounding silver break starter should be straight
Moving shots from 3pt and midrange make % and attribute ratings would be cool to test and know what’s the best
I’m sure the Dimer test is soon to follow, I’m very intrigued how legend dimer boosts over HOF.
Personally using 82 and enjoying it
Did you put the legend badges on when testing the 99 pass accuracy vs silver badges at a 89 pass accuracy
Can you please do a test on the bail out badge? I cant find any content online, wondering if there is any value in going super high in passing.
Love your content, thanks!
Please do a video on the threshold hold for low ratings. 25-60. For the people not upgrading pass accuracy every year. If you find the time.
Whats best for 75 and 80 pass?
Trae Young
The Fox pass is the best pass animation for low pass builds you just need a 77 and it’s basically a off Brandon haliburton pass it’s op asf
Yoo I need that Darius Garland Pass Style test😤
I had 75 on my 7’ center with baechero passing and I whip them down court.
Excellent tasting man, we all really appreciate how you put in this monotonous time testing mechanics when you could be playing and enjoying the game but it means we all can make better builds! One of THE top guys in the community!
What's the quickest passing style? Animation?
Pls do a quick test in your height vs contest method that we can see how 6‘2 performes because between 6‘1 and 6‘3 is a huge gap and i realy need to know if 6‘2 is good or bad… Thank you i realy appreciate your work and time a lot! 🙏🏼
Thank you bro you are the most helpful every year I really appreciate this!
Amazing video, could you do a test on paint patroller and its affect on interior contest? I want to go no block and high interior and see if I really need to have the badge or not.
vertical on rebounding ?
Doesn't matter what it is with the way lane steals are. Everyone saying they want realistic but people with 85 plus steal launch halfway across the court. Ga.e needs a couple changes and shooting isn't the worst
Still have to make smart passes. I have a 99 steak and although I creep a lot of passes too it doesn't mean you can launch your passes are untouchable by defenses. THAT would be unrealistic. Still wondering where everyone is seeing mfs launch across the court? I've yet to see it. Might be because my pass is 99 that I get away with a lot
99 pass*
I have an 89 haliburton and you still get hawked bro might as well put them points on 99 steal cuz that’s all 2k wants to reward this year. Trash ahh game give us our green window back
yeah i dont understand investing this much in pass shit is so pointless this year with all the 91 steal lane spammers
@@sunsettim9106 nah fr I could either upgrade from 85 to 91 steal or upgrade pass from a 78 to a 79. 2k is ridiculous
Facts the only thing that improves is the speed kind of. The accuracy is non existent it just throws it straight at the opponent.
Got to incorporate the bounce pass and lob. The bounce pass animations are tweeked out
@sunsettim9106 Then don't throw into the lane. I know there's a bug that happens once in a full moon where people basically teleport into the passing lane... However, the rest is your fault. They made it to where animations in passing lanes actually make sense. It used to be that you guys could get away with bad passes because even with high interceptor, players would get really bad/slow animations that would literally never happen from an NBA player. Now, people can actually steal the ball when reading the pass is coming. It's your fault 90% of the time if you're getting those turnovers. Stop throwing into the passing lane if the defender is there. That's bball 101. Fake a pass every once in a while if people are spamming, it'll send them into the next dimension, leaving your teammate wide open.
But whats the speed difference between a certain pass style vs another ???
Is it a way you can test dunk frequency?
Can you test the playmaking takeover? Does it help with teammates jump shots, alley oops and flashy passes? Which does it increase the most? Does it increase pass speed, improve catch animations?
Love the work you do. Anyway you could test the speed of passing styles? Labs tested a few but there are still a lot to be tested.
can you test pass accuracy vs steal rating ?
APPRECIATE YOU TUTES FR YOU BE COMING IN CLUTCH MY GUY SAVING ME MONEY ON MY BUILDS ❤️
when you dropping most efficient builds for each position ?
I have a 82 pass with Trae young style and man it throws dots. There are times when the catch isn’t the best but I bet at 85 or 89 it’s perfect damn near
My PF build is awesome...but one thing I regret is only maxing 70 pass accuracy. This was more than enough in previous 2K's for a secondary ballhandler in park...but in 2K25 it sucks. My passes are always half a second late, and just feel sloppy
Can you do Posterizers with and without strength to see how often youll fail meter dunks with high driving dunk and high strength vs low strength
I’m currently making a pg build and this video dropped just in time, tutes is the goat man I’m going 91 pass for a rondo build
Hey tutes, would love to see a video on how paint patroller effects inside contests and blocks
Please make video on Versatile Visionary vs Interceptor. V.V badge description makes it sound like it helps passes get through interceptions.
Could you do tests of limitless and maybe shifty as well?
Can we get a video on dunks? For some reason I’m 6’3 93 driving dunk gold poster with contacts and I keep getting knocked out of dunk animations
Could you do a vid on pass style speeds, comparing Hali with others? Feels like 85 pass accuracy is not worth it
Do one on how much boost u get from Rhythm Shooting vs Using Square
Do we lose attributes when we lose an adrenaline bar still?
Does anyone know what the minimum driving dunk that is needed to get putback dunks?
Great video! I wish you would've did this many points on the agility ratings
Amazing work. Thank you.
78 for a center is perfect honestly with no pass style.
78 is good ngl, I use 89 for haliburton and the amount of break starter cross court dimes I get in the rec is too goof
Good
This is so false lol
So what’s the best for the fastest
How does pass acc work in relation to self alley oops?
Thanks Tutes can we get a limitless range test. ✌🏽
97 pass accuracy with Magic Johnson Pass Style 6’4 PG best passer ever
On my build i get a max pass accuracy of 76 and I haven’t upgraded it yet one of the last things im gonna upgrade and personally i have been absolutely fine throwing any type of pass you can think of
I love you bro thanks for your work
65 enough for centers
we need a test on Lethal zones vs hot zones !!!
Doing pass acc without dimer info is crazy
Ppl with soon realize deearon fox is the wave
VERSATILE VISIONARY and DIMER TEST!!! With the passing lane steals being OP I wana know how much this badge can help!
Do you guys think it’s big difference from 70 to 75?? 75 gets passing styles
Please do a jump-shooters height and the impact it has to get contested by a defender
I got 85 pass accuracy because thats all I was able to squeeze out!
Please do a video on different body types bc I changed mines to muscular from compact and I feel so much slower on muscular
Finally now we talking can u do paint patroller and the block and interior videos are amazing
I’m a SF so I went with 80. I may get 10 out of the 15 cap breakers so maybe I’ll bump it up to 85.
“Maybe it’s going to be unrealistic”. Well with the way passing lane steals are this year you kinda need it to be unrealistic
I have a 50 pass acc right now bc I didn’t upgrade it yet and it works perfectly fine 😂
Yeah I’m wondering if I can survive 50 passing on Center
If I never pass the ball because I never touch the ball, could I have it super low? I’m a strict defensive anchor
Man i was messing around in the buider and made a cold pg 2 way playmaking sharpshooter but im nervous to upgrade it because its a 5'9 i been playing on a 6'4
Bro do not waste your bread on a 5’9 unless you’re comp asf and run with a team in proam on the regular. That’s a very niche build for a specific type of gamer
@tjf.994 I've always ran a small guard just not that small I usually go 6'0 for my pg builds I know I can play on the build the only thing I was worried about is the contest system this year I'm worried people are just gonna shoot over me even if I play good defense
@@Jay-i2s9lthey definitely will I’m 6’6 ppl still shoot over me from time to time couldn’t imagine what it’d be like for a 5’9
@Swavee2xLIVE dang do you have perimeter on your build and they still shoot over you?
@@Jay-i2s9l 85 perimeter, I can still play good defense but if the offensive player gets in his shooting form before I put my hand up every slightly late close out is an open shot
Would yall do 55, 65,71 , or push it to 78 on a big? Im debating 65 but 71 silver dimer is enticing
Bro😂😂😂. You better be playing 2s
@@bonystickmanking1250 💀man listen they stingy on this builder dawg something gotta give
@@OGCHAMPIONCJ I went 65 for both my bigs and it works fine.
78 minimum any build
@@nickg7165hell nah
The better 2klabs that actually listens to comments
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We need a video on the moving green window.
Vertical next please, we appreciate all the videos this early in the game
Need best pass style vid, haliburton vs garland
I did a full court bounce pass for an and 1 with a 38 attribute
Yo tutes can you test physical finisher
Thanks as always
Could u test ankle assassin and glove pls
There’s a theory going around that motion styles helps you shoot better… by any chance can you test this Tutez?
I use 99 passing on my stretch 4 it’s very good
Close shot vs standing dunk plz
I have a 97 pass accuracy on my joking build it’s fast but I don’t sling it down the court every time just playing smart gets me the assists i need