I like that term 'Modular Sporting Rifle', a perfect use of the proper nomenclature. Many call ARs Modern Sporting Rifles, but they are no longer so modern at about 60 years old, but they are indeed very modular, which is the beauty of the AR platform. A very realistic description.
There's been very little improvement in gas operated semi-automatics beyond the MSR platform that could warrant dropping the "modern" classification. Sure, there's lots of other variants, but, IMHO, none that would take the top of the heap claiming the Stoner design is "outdated" and no longer current... Just a thought, not criticism, mind you. (>;
AR type rifles are much more modern then the bolt or lever action rifle since those designs are over 100 years Old. With the Picatinny rails and all of the changes made since the sixty’s, they are modern sporting rifles.
GREAT video ......I realized WHILE watching that I had my AR-15 Vortex 1-4 PST mounted to far forward with the front of my cantilever on the rail .........THANKS MUCH......and thanks to for the GREAT service I've received from you folks ....ALL of my optics are Vortex. The QUALITY, SERVICE and WARRANTY keep me coming back .......
Just bought tikka t3x in 270 win 2 months wasn't sure on optics but after watching videos and the werrenty is the best in the industry I went with vortex and will always use vortex because of that and the glass is crystal clear thays vortex for all you do
@@VortexOpticsUSA Question, I Just purchased a Ruger precision rifle in 308 and a Vortex Diamondback Tactical First Focal Plane MOA. 6 x 24 x 50mm. I purchased the Pro series 30 mm rings "Height High" and I'm hoping that the scope will fit with these rings and fit the rifle (mainly the height) this was kind of a guess on my part. Thoughts ?
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you for your fast response. This is my first Vortex Scope & my first "first focal plane scope" I've always purchased cheap scopes. But this time. I really wanted a nice one. The name brand Vortex came up everywhere. Top ten lists, you tube vids, etc.. Your ratings on Amazon are unbelievable. Finally, after I read your warranty, it was a done deal. Thanks again. :)
Great video... After my first Vortex purchase of a Red Dot, then dealing with their customer service and its excellent staff, Im now the happy owner 2 Red Dots, 2 'pieces of glass' and a Range Finder... and couldn't be happier. Now that a new PRS rifle has arrived, what to mount it with... SO MANY choices, but once I decide, I'll be giving you guys a call to "talk shop". Look forward to it. Take Care and Happy shooting
Absolutely! We appreciate all of the support and if you need any recommendations for your new rig, don't hesitate to reach out. Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation :)
Just bought my Mauser M18, I have a dozen guns all iron sights no red dots or holographic (cause my eyes) and this video helped calm my nerves about what I need and how to do it. Very good video! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Good stuff! On the reversing the mount to bring the scope to you, one common issue with that is that the charging handle is right under the scope tail and it be hard to grab to pull back, on ARs anyways, some other rifles with different styles might not have that issue.
yea - watching vortex podcast too much along with meat eater i found myself in a bass pro shop today wanting a new scope and i went straight to the vortex section. Long story short i own a vortex now! i 100 percent do not regret my purchase
I’ve got my first AR on its way, to which I will mount my Strikefire in a cantilever mount that’s currently quad mounted on my AK. I have ordered the new crossfire red dot for my AK. I’m excited to get to do a review on such a new optic on my channel.
The german Vortex website tells me that the Vortex Precision Matched Rings can be mounted on a Picantinny-rail but not on a Weaver-rail. The Ruger American Predator has a Weaver-rail but you mounted the Vortex Precision Matched Rings on it. Can you please explain why your german collegues don't recommand that?
@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. A properly balanced and certified clean bench will indeed maintain a particle free environment in the work zone.... if that is what you meant.
Excellent! For Tikka T3x there should be a pin that acts as a recoil lug on the base (Tikka/Sako optiloc system). I like Mountain Tactical Picatinny Rail that incorporates that strong recoil pin on their base.
I’ve been looking into the Burris P.E.P.R. Scope mount as a way to mount a red-dot above an AR10 rifle for close-up target acquisition. Is this mount a decent choice, or should I hold off for something more “quality”? My thought process is using this rifle for hog hunting, where the primary optic would be a scope at minimum 2.5x10, and that the red dot would be for the hopefully-rare instance of a close-up charging hog.
Great video. Huge vortex fan. I’m currently attempting to figure out if I would need a special scope and or special mount to compensate for the recoil on a Henry lever action rifle in caliber 45-70. Could you give me some clarification?
It took me a sec to really understand why one (invariably) needs a cantilever type mount on an AR-15. Notice on the AR-15 with cantilever mount, and the Ruger American with standard mount, in BOTH CASES, the rear ring is just at the front of the trigger guard. Thus, scope APPEARS to be mounted farther forward, but as a matter of length of pull, you need that cantilever just to put the scope in the same relative position as the scope on the Ruger American without cantilever.
The most typical and problematic concern is a scope height which will support a muscularly relaxed stockweld where the entire weight of head can rest on the stock while yielding perfect sight alignment. Unless this condition is achieved consistent sight alignment will not be possible resulting in angular error which increases with distance.
I just purchased a Savage Axis 2 Overwatch 308 bolt action. I have ordered the Vortex Diamondback DBK-10027. The rifle came with an EGW one piece picatinny scope rail. What would your recommendations be for rings to mount the scope?
Hi Vortex Team. I purchased a Tikka T3X CTR that comes with 0MOA rail standard. Planning to purchase the Strike Eagle 5-25x56 scope. Which rings must I get to clear the ocular lens bell? I’m keeping the 0MOA standard rail for now as I don’t plan to shoot further than 1000m for now.
Kind of late to the party but anyway, I've got a savage access to precision rifle. What ring height would you suggest? I have several options at my house. Just curious thanks, Jerry.
When you finally got to the American predator all you talked about was the already installed rail. Need info on scope ring heights for your 56mm optics with 34mm tubes on that setup. I know all about the rail.
@@VortexOpticsUSA called tech support when they opened today. Top notch! He suggested 1.1 or 1.26 depending on whether I wanted to add flip caps or not. I went with the taller ones.
Hey Ryan, I have purchased a Tompson Center Encore barrel from MGM in 6.5 PRC. I also ordered a Talley 20 MOA picanny rail for the base. I have now purchased the Strike Eagle 4x24x50 MM to mount on top. What size or set of rings do you recommend for this set up? Thks
Excellent video! My current dilemma: A Henry All-Weather 30-30 with Picatinny rail. Yes, a lever gun. how to mount a 30mm scope while being able to still access the hammer....??
Hello Vortex Optics, I just purchase a Springfield Armory Socom 16 and want to buy your Vortex Venom Red Dot. The question I have is concerning the mounting of the scope. should it be mounted on the picatinny rail or buy a scope mount and mounted it the way Springfield Armory has it on their Socom 16 QCB. Please advise.
What is best position of the rings if the cross-bar doesn't exactly fit the picatinny slot? Toward the back of the pic or toward the front? I would think toward the back, since they sort-of act like a recoil lug for the scope helping eliminate the movement potential of the scope when firing heavy loads like 300 winmag.
It frustrates the he'll out of me that modern plastic stocks don't come with plastic adjustable cheek pieces! Very few come with a comb high enough (and I've never found one too high). On a wooden gun I'd rather the comb be too high so I could take the excess off myself and re-oil/revarnish. If you want an integrated cheek piece you basically have to go to a chassis. Very frustrating.
Great video. Very informative. I just bought a Remington 700 26 inch barrel in 300 Win Mag. I have little to no long distance shooting experience but that is the goal behind buying this rifle. I would start with just long distance targets until I got confident enough to hunt long distance without risk of injuring an animal that I do not kill. I am thinking I want a scope with a high magnification around 20 but anything up to 25+ would work and no less than 16 power. I would like to keep the price around $700 for the scope, rings and mounting plate but willing to go a little higher if there is a scope that will better serve my purpose. Any set up(s) you can suggest? I see mounting plates saying 0 MOA, 2 MOA, 4 MOA. I understand MOA when adjusting my scope when sighting my rifle in but not on the mounting plate. What is the difference between the 0, 2, 4 MOA plates?
In case you didn't figure it out, or to inform viewers: A 20 MOA base is generally used for shooting 500 - 1000 + yards depending on the scope and caliber (At 100 yards, one MOA is about 1" [slightly more] )The scope mount cants downward at 20 MOA, which will allow you to zero your gun at a greater distance. This prevents your scope from reaching the limit of elevation adjustment. I would recommend zeroing a rifle with a 20 MOA rail at 200 yards Good luck
I bought a viper PST gen one and I’m putting it on a 20 MOA rail. I know the objective is 50 mm and so that leads me to think I need to go high rings but I’d rather use medium if I can. What do you recommend?
Bergara HMR, just ordered a Viper PST G2, which rings should I use? Should I use locktite on the rings? Or some other thread locker? I assume they don't need lapped. Any input would be appreciated, I'm new to this.
Great vid...big fan of Vortex...missed the live feed for a question. If I have a Remington 700 chambered in 300 winmag and planning for the a scope with a 30mm tube and 50mm objective (6-24x50 HS-T or HS LR). What is the lowest rings I can get that will fit and give sufficient room between the barrel and objective. Specifically it is the Remington 700 5r G2 rifle in 300 winmag. Thanks.
+VikingSenso - I'd recommend rings in a "Low" height if you're running a picatinny base, or "Medium" for a set of weaver bases! -RJ (Raleckson@vortexoptics.com)
@@VortexOpticsUSA - What do you consider "low" height? I will be running a 20 MOA picatinny base on my Christensen Ridgeline with the Viper PST Gen II 5-25x50. Would you recommend the 0.87 or 0.97 Vortex Match Rings?
@@tannerbingham5177 - .87" would be considered "low" while .97" would be "medium." With the 50mm objective bell on your scope, you'll want a set of high 1.26" PMR rings.
I purchased a DBK-RIM 2-7 x35 Rimfire V-plex Vortex Diamondback riflescope. I would like to mount it on to my .22 bolt action Marlin Glenfield Model 25. What rings would you suggest?
@@VortexOpticsUSA for this rifle there are none of these will fit. this rifle has only factory mount parts, this is the Sako A5 (Romans 5) model 338 wines mag Finland. thank you for your interest in my problem My optiks is it 34 mm tube 5-25-56 Cabelas neither Picatinny or Weaver match what I'm looking for so far
@@zdzichzcan2808 gotcha - our rings will require either a Weaver base or a Picatinny rail to mount to, so unfortunately we do not have an option for your setup.
I'm picking up a Mossberg MVP Patrol and was wondering about recommendations on rings and mounts that would still allow me to use the iron sights in addition to a mounted scope. Any ideas?
Lots of practice! But in all seriousness, it depends on the platforms. Many cross-eye dominant shooters have found that red dots are much easier to use, so for AR platforms those are preferred. For more traditional bolt action rifles, it's really finding how it's comfortable for you to shoot. There are people that try to switch up their positioning on the rifle or even run offset rings so they can use their dominant eye. There are plenty of options available!
I have an M1A socom cqb and want to run the crossfire 2 on it. I have the attachment to extend the length of the rail system to allow more scope options. However, I have no idea what scope ring mount to get. I was looking at the cantilever scope mount 3mm. Will this work?
Iam in my 60s, so my eyes aren't what they used to be. So i need to put a scope on my Browning BL .22 .What scope and scope mount would you advise me to put... Thanks for any suggestions.
On a gun like that you'll want something with a nice, forgiving eyebox and good eye relief to make up for the fact that it will probably have to sit up a bit higher than is ideal just due to the design of the receiver and the stock of the rifle, so we'd recommend checking out something like our Crossfire II 2-7x32 Rimfire, or the Viper HS 2.5-10x44, the Viper being the better of the two by quite a great deal, but also a fair bit more expensive.
Just need to confirm medium height precision matched Vortex rings are appropriate for mounting a Viper Gen II 5-25x50 SFP. Will be with a 20 MOA Picatinny rail by EGW mounted on a Bergara HMR Pro (6.5 Creedmoor). Thanks
So I spent the money on the big dog. Razor HD GEN II. I am mounting it on a Rem 700 308 tac. I got a Warne zero MOA rail. I have the vortex 1.10 rings headed my way. After looking at how big this is. I’m worried that my rings are going to be to short. My stalk is a archangel with some adjustment. It’s kind of a bummer spending this kind of money and you just can’t go to the local sporting goods store and get what you need.
The 1.1" inch height should provide enough clearance for that setup. If your stock does have adjustment, if you run into any issues you can always jump up to the 1.26" inch height, but you should be just fine with what you have!
Purchased a Tikka t3x Varmint that still needs to be picked up. Was wondering if the PMR at 1.45 will be correct with using your Vortex Strike Eagle 5x25x56? Curious about the clearance of objective lens with a defender flip cap?
I have a .308 Ruger American with a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 with a 30mm main tube. What rings and mounts should i install? I currently have the Vortex Tactical 30mm High Rings but it seems that the scope is sitting way to high above the barrel. I would prefer installing a single uni base to help eliminate the need to properly balance/position the 2 sets of rings on the scope.
Hey! I just purchased a Savage Axis 2 Precision rifle and I plan on purchasing your Vortex Venom 5x25 56mm scope. What rings would you recommend for this rig?
What height rings would you recommend for a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 30mm tube mounted on my hunting rifle Savage Axis II .270 win (with accutrigger) Planning on using the Talley or leupold two piece style rings.
I have a remington 700 SPS in . 308and i want to mount the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50FFP MRAD and EGW 20moa base. What set of Vortex rings height do you recommend ?
Appears there is a discussion on a forum, Vertical rings vs horizontal. Can you provide any feedback on this? Apparently they found issues with vertical rings or quick release mounts with Vertical ring mounts. Just curious, thanks.
I bought a crossfire ll 4-12x50 scope ....and got VPR-1H High mounts not knowing scopes had specific mounts for specific models. I got them because i liked them ....rifle is a win M70 30-06..... Question is...will that affect performance ? I doubt it will but id like to make sure before i sight it in ...Thanks in advance ...
I'm working on putting together a 300 blackout ar, what would be the best scope rings to use. I have a vortex diamondback scope that I was planing to use for this.
Hey Martin - thanks for considering Vortex in your search for a new scope! How far do you plan on shooting? Do you have a specific budget you're trying to stay within? Please let us know and we'll gladly help you find a good match.
Hi Guys, I just purchased the Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25 x 50 and plan to mount it on my Tikka T3x TAC A1. Can you let me know what high quality set of rings would best suit this application and give me the most out of the scope? Note: I don’t intend to shoot past 1000yrds. P.S keep up the great work, these vlogs are extremely informative 👍🏻
Thanks for the feedback and good words - we really appreciate it. The best mount for that scope/gun combo is the Precision Matched Rings in the 1.45" height to clear the hand guard. You can find them at: vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-precision-matched-rings-30mm-riflescope-145
Vortex, this video was super helpful and brought up a question at the same time (hopefully it's answered here because I don't have a FB). I recently bought my first scope, Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x44, that I'm looking to mount on my Savage Axis .30-06. What recommendation would Vortex have on which rings to purchase for this combination?
1OutdoorTradition Not a Vortex product but I have used and am very happy with DNZ Game Reaper on a Savage model 10. www.dnzproducts.com/product/game-reaper-savage-2/
For a Ruger American chambered in.308 with a Vortex Viper PST II 5-25x50 first focal plane scope are the low rings too low to clear the defender flip caps and the bolt action handle? I'll be using the EGW picatinny rail. Any thoughts on EGW HD rail (.35" high) verses standard rail (.40" high)? Also, vortex precision match or pro rings?
Accuracy arctic warfare with VORTEX HST 6-24x50 scope..which height should i choose??vortex rings...i mean..thanks!!awesome optics..keep up!!in mm please :-)
@Vortex Optics What cantilever would you recommend for a Rise Armament 1121XR 6.5 Creedmoor, topped with a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 riflescope? What are the main differences between each of the cantilever mount options? And lastly, I might want to get into long range shooting sometime in the future, but do I really need to spend the extra $$$ on getting a precision cantilever? Or could a Sport/Pro cantilever be steady, sufficient, or reliable enough for the lower kick of a 6.5? (I also plan to use this gun hunting as well, so I prefer to keep it on the lighter side when possible.)
The pro cantilever would be perfect. All of them are plenty reliable and steady for a 6.5, the main thing you get as you upgrade from sport to pro to precision is the overall quality and precision tolerances that go into making the mounts themselves. For someone looking for the ultimate in precision machined rings that are perfectly matched to one another, the precision cantilever mount can't be beaten. That build quality does help it in reliability on heavy recoiling guns, or in harsh uses, but it's unlikely you'll be testing those limits with what you describe. The Pro is a great choice as well, plenty durable and reliable and at about half the cost. Many of us here use all three depending on the situation. For your particular application, the Pro seems perfect.
The Ruger mount is a bit funky and exclusive to the M77, so you'll need to use their rings (30mm - medium height). You could also go to a weigatinny rail (if you insisted on using a more precision ring set, like the Precision Matched Rings in our line). If you chose the latter, we'd recommend a set of our medium height 30mm Pro Rings which you can find here: vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-pro-series-30mm-riflescope-rings-medium-height
It really depends on how far you're planning to shoot. For most practical shooting applications with an AR chambered in 5.56, you won't need a 20 MOA base to shoot out to 600 yards. If you plan on shooting super long range, you're probably going to want to go to a higher magnified optic. Let us know what kind of shooting you'll be doing and we'll be able to help recommend what kind of mounting solution is best for you.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you for the quick response! First time putting a powered optic on a modular sporting rifle, and was concerned with height over bore effecting the scopes elevation travel.
34mm one piece cantilever mount like our Precision 34mm mount we have on our website. We would opt for the "0 MOA" version unless you intend to shoot at long ranges.
+Patrick "Flea7.62x51" Felice - I'd recommend our Precision Extended Cantilever mount, but if you need a QR mount, check out our Precision QR mount. Both in 30mm, both would work Awesome! -RJ (Raleckson@vortexoptics.com)
I'm trying to mount a Diamondback tactical 4-16x44 scope on a mini 14 tactical. With the stock fully forward, I can't get a usable eye relief. What rings can I use to move the scope back far enough to solve the problem?
The best solution would be to get a mounting solution that would allow you to mount it over the receiver. Even if you got a cantilever mount and reversed it it would still not provide enough eye relief for you to use it properly.
Good day sir. What is the difference between vertically split rings and horizobtally split rings? Also...what type and height rings would you recommand for a CZ 557 Ranger with a pic rail over the reciever.
Hey there - the difference is where they are putting pressure. Horizontally split rings are much friendlier on scope tube bodies and will be much easier to mount as they don't pull the optic to a different direction like vertically split rings will. What optic are you looking to mount on your CZ?
@@VortexOpticsUSA One more if you don't mind? I'm thinking that I might possibly go for the Vortex Viper 2 gen PST 1-6 LPVO instead. Would the earlier advice regarding the 30 mm medium rings still apply?
I want to purchase a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24X50 EBR-2C (MRAD) for my recently purchased Ruger Predator (22 inch barrel) bolt action chambered in 6.5 grendel. What size/height rings do you recommend for the factory picatanny rail (I believe it’s a 20 MOA rail but I’m not sure) ? Thanks Vortex Optics !
@@billc9178 The difference is only about .1". Both would work just fine, however if you are planning on running any type of flip caps the extra .1" may be beneficial.
@@VortexOpticsUSA so does the Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24X50 EBR-2C (MRAD) come with flip caps ? And will it still fit on the Ruger Predator 6.5 grendel with flip caps and 0.9 inch rings ? I just want mount it as low as possible but still have clearance. Thanks for all the advice btw. I greatly appreciate it.
@@billc9178 It does not come with flip caps. They will come with the bikini style tethered lens covers. at the .9" inch height it would definitely be a more snug fit.
I love that there's one person in the audience asking the question, yet he looks around as if there's more people. Very entertaining.
I like that term 'Modular Sporting Rifle', a perfect use of the proper nomenclature.
Many call ARs Modern Sporting Rifles, but they are no longer so modern at about 60 years old, but they are indeed very modular, which is the beauty of the AR platform.
A very realistic description.
There's been very little improvement in gas operated semi-automatics beyond the MSR platform that could warrant dropping the "modern" classification. Sure, there's lots of other variants, but, IMHO, none that would take the top of the heap claiming the Stoner design is "outdated" and no longer current... Just a thought, not criticism, mind you. (>;
AR type rifles are much more modern then the bolt or lever action rifle since those designs are over 100 years Old. With the Picatinny rails and all of the changes made since the sixty’s, they are modern sporting rifles.
What makes it specifically a sporting rifle? I don:t think most people own their ARs for sporting uses.
GREAT video ......I realized WHILE watching that I had my AR-15 Vortex 1-4 PST mounted to far forward with the front of my cantilever on the rail .........THANKS MUCH......and thanks to for the GREAT service I've received from you folks ....ALL of my optics are Vortex. The QUALITY, SERVICE and WARRANTY keep me coming back .......
Mike - You rock! Please reach out to us if you ever have any questions and thanks for running our glass!
-Rachel -rdepouw@vortexoptics.com
Just bought tikka t3x in 270 win 2 months wasn't sure on optics but after watching videos and the werrenty is the best in the industry I went with vortex and will always use vortex because of that and the glass is crystal clear thays vortex for all you do
Vortex is the shit! I absolutely love Vortex.
We love you too! :)
Gosh I love Vortex!!! Everything I needed to know for my new rifle setup was right here! Awesome job guys!!
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Excellent...…...really useful information that takes the mystery out of mounting a scope. Vortex goes the extra mile and it is appreciated.
Glad you found this helpful! :)
@@VortexOpticsUSA Question, I Just purchased a Ruger precision rifle in 308 and a Vortex Diamondback Tactical First Focal Plane MOA. 6 x 24 x 50mm. I purchased the Pro series 30 mm rings "Height High" and I'm hoping that the scope will fit with these rings and fit the rifle (mainly the height) this was kind of a guess on my part. Thoughts ?
@@The_Real_Zaineman Those rings will definitely work for that setup! Either the High or Extra-High would be be the way to go for an RPR.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you for your fast response. This is my first Vortex Scope & my first "first focal plane scope" I've always purchased cheap scopes. But this time. I really wanted a nice one. The name brand Vortex came up everywhere. Top ten lists, you tube vids, etc.. Your ratings on Amazon are unbelievable. Finally, after I read your warranty, it was a done deal. Thanks again. :)
@@The_Real_Zaineman That is great to hear, my friend! Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation! 👊
Great video... After my first Vortex purchase of a Red Dot, then dealing with their customer service and its excellent staff, Im now the happy owner 2 Red Dots, 2 'pieces of glass' and a Range Finder... and couldn't be happier. Now that a new PRS rifle has arrived, what to mount it with... SO MANY choices, but once I decide, I'll be giving you guys a call to "talk shop". Look forward to it. Take Care and Happy shooting
Absolutely! We appreciate all of the support and if you need any recommendations for your new rig, don't hesitate to reach out. Thanks for being a part of Vortex Nation :)
Just bought my Mauser M18, I have a dozen guns all iron sights no red dots or holographic (cause my eyes) and this video helped calm my nerves about what I need and how to do it. Very good video! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
glad you had the predator there that's what I'm putting together right now
I love vortex it’s all I own binoculars range finders and scopes
Great info, thanks ! Just ordered one of your cantilever mounts sport for my AR-15 after seeing this video.
You betcha! That's awesome!
@@VortexOpticsUSA I was surprised to see that the mount was made in China... I thought it would be made in USA.
113€ for a chinese product 😐
Great vid! Thanks for the tips.
I’m leaning heavily towards VORTEX optics for my AR15. Your video is appreciated thank you
You are very welcome - thanks for tuning in! Let us know if you have any questions or if we can help with anything.
What is the philosophy of your setup?
Good stuff! On the reversing the mount to bring the scope to you, one common issue with that is that the charging handle is right under the scope tail and it be hard to grab to pull back, on ARs anyways, some other rifles with different styles might not have that issue.
Woah! Look at a young Ryan Muckenhirn!!! Far out man.
For some odd reason most of my scopes are vortex...i blame meat eater!
sciencestudent88 same, that show is really good!
Damn meat eater and demolition ranch!
yea - watching vortex podcast too much along with meat eater i found myself in a bass pro shop today wanting a new scope and i went straight to the vortex section. Long story short i own a vortex now! i 100 percent do not regret my purchase
Great information!!
Vortex 5x25x50 pst viper gen2 awesome and Awesome warranty
*Love me some Vortex!*
Talk about lapping and bedding of the scope rings. Good video.
I’ve got my first AR on its way, to which I will mount my Strikefire in a cantilever mount that’s currently quad mounted on my AK. I have ordered the new crossfire red dot for my AK. I’m excited to get to do a review on such a new optic on my channel.
Awesome to hear - thanks for rocking our glass! -Rachel, rdepouw@vortexoptics.com
The german Vortex website tells me that the Vortex Precision Matched Rings can be mounted on a Picantinny-rail but not on a Weaver-rail. The Ruger American Predator has a Weaver-rail but you mounted the Vortex Precision Matched Rings on it. Can you please explain why your german collegues don't recommand that?
Wow this is great info.
Nice clean bench in the background xD the particle free environment is for when you open up the insides of a scope?
Correct! When assembling them it is important to ensure no debris or particles are inside.
@@VortexOpticsUSA makes sense , i certify clean rooms and cabinets and such hehe
@@VortexOpticsUSA Hey, what about when the inner chamber is filled with a special gas?
Which is only possible in a clean room.... lol
@@Soli_Deo_Gloria_. A properly balanced and certified clean bench will indeed maintain a particle free environment in the work zone.... if that is what you meant.
I’m trying to find info on direct scope ring to action rings VS using a 2 piece pic rail and then rings on it?
Excellent! For Tikka T3x there should be a pin that acts as a recoil lug on the base (Tikka/Sako optiloc system). I like Mountain Tactical Picatinny Rail that incorporates that strong recoil pin on their base.
Sir who did that cerekote job on that ruger american predator?? That looks amazing!!
Somebody fairly local out of Minnesota - kind of a small hobby shop to be honest. Jim See at Elite Accuracy does amazing cerakote work
Great demonstration and information...
but couldn't resist :) "Mosquito Brain"
I’ve been looking into the Burris P.E.P.R. Scope mount as a way to mount a red-dot above an AR10 rifle for close-up target acquisition. Is this mount a decent choice, or should I hold off for something more “quality”? My thought process is using this rifle for hog hunting, where the primary optic would be a scope at minimum 2.5x10, and that the red dot would be for the hopefully-rare instance of a close-up charging hog.
Great video. Huge vortex fan. I’m currently attempting to figure out if I would need a special scope and or special mount to compensate for the recoil on a Henry lever action rifle in caliber 45-70. Could you give me some clarification?
It took me a sec to really understand why one (invariably) needs a cantilever type mount on an AR-15. Notice on the AR-15 with cantilever mount, and the Ruger American with standard mount, in BOTH CASES, the rear ring is just at the front of the trigger guard. Thus, scope APPEARS to be mounted farther forward, but as a matter of length of pull, you need that cantilever just to put the scope in the same relative position as the scope on the Ruger American without cantilever.
I built a Remote 700 300 rum used Leopold 20 moa1 piece rail and Leopold High rings/ perfect eye to scope alignment. Fyi
I recently purchased a vortex diamondback rifle scope 6x24-50 30 mm tube mounting to a ruger sfar rifle ring height please ideas tips pictanny rail
I was told that with 50 power scopes you need higher rings because you don’t want the bell of the scope touching the bore.
The most typical and problematic concern is a scope height which will support a muscularly relaxed stockweld where the entire weight of head can rest on the stock while yielding perfect sight alignment. Unless this condition is achieved consistent sight alignment will not be possible resulting in angular error which increases with distance.
Just picked up a diamondback deadhold BDC 3-9x40mm. What cantilever scope mount would you recommend??
I just purchased a Savage Axis 2 Overwatch 308 bolt action. I have ordered the Vortex Diamondback DBK-10027. The rifle came with an EGW one piece picatinny scope rail. What would your recommendations be for rings to mount the scope?
Hi Vortex Team. I purchased a Tikka T3X CTR that comes with 0MOA rail standard. Planning to purchase the Strike Eagle 5-25x56 scope. Which rings must I get to clear the ocular lens bell? I’m keeping the 0MOA standard rail for now as I don’t plan to shoot further than 1000m for now.
Kind of late to the party but anyway, I've got a savage access to precision rifle. What ring height would you suggest? I have several options at my house. Just curious thanks, Jerry.
When you finally got to the American predator all you talked about was the already installed rail. Need info on scope ring heights for your 56mm optics with 34mm tubes on that setup. I know all about the rail.
For that setup, a set of the 34 mm Precision Matched Rings 1.10" inch height would be the way to go.
@@VortexOpticsUSA called tech support when they opened today. Top notch! He suggested 1.1 or 1.26 depending on whether I wanted to add flip caps or not. I went with the taller ones.
@@The10man81 Right on - that's great to hear! If you ever have any questions, please let us know.
Hey Ryan, I have purchased a Tompson Center Encore barrel from MGM in 6.5 PRC. I also ordered a Talley 20 MOA picanny rail for the base. I have now purchased the Strike Eagle 4x24x50 MM to mount on top. What size or set of rings do you recommend for this set up? Thks
So is there a page on your website that helps sort out rifle vs scope vs proper ring height?
No, as it will vary from setup to setup. If you ever need help, feel free to reach out to us here or at 1-800-4VORTEX ext. 5.
Excellent video! My current dilemma: A Henry All-Weather 30-30 with Picatinny rail. Yes, a lever gun. how to mount a 30mm scope while being able to still access the hammer....??
Hello Vortex Optics,
I just purchase a Springfield Armory Socom 16 and want to buy your Vortex Venom Red
Dot. The question I have is concerning the mounting of the scope. should it be mounted on the picatinny rail or buy a scope mount and mounted it the way Springfield Armory has
it on their Socom 16 QCB. Please advise.
What is best position of the rings if the cross-bar doesn't exactly fit the picatinny slot? Toward the back of the pic or toward the front? I would think toward the back, since they sort-of act like a recoil lug for the scope helping eliminate the movement potential of the scope when firing heavy loads like 300 winmag.
It frustrates the he'll out of me that modern plastic stocks don't come with plastic adjustable cheek pieces! Very few come with a comb high enough (and I've never found one too high). On a wooden gun I'd rather the comb be too high so I could take the excess off myself and re-oil/revarnish. If you want an integrated cheek piece you basically have to go to a chassis. Very frustrating.
What size rings was that u had on the Ruger American?
Great video. Very informative. I just bought a Remington 700 26 inch barrel in 300 Win Mag. I have little to no long distance shooting experience but that is the goal behind buying this rifle. I would start with just long distance targets until I got confident enough to hunt long distance without risk of injuring an animal that I do not kill. I am thinking I want a scope with a high magnification around 20 but anything up to 25+ would work and no less than 16 power. I would like to keep the price around $700 for the scope, rings and mounting plate but willing to go a little higher if there is a scope that will better serve my purpose. Any set up(s) you can suggest? I see mounting plates saying 0 MOA, 2 MOA, 4 MOA. I understand MOA when adjusting my scope when sighting my rifle in but not on the mounting plate. What is the difference between the 0, 2, 4 MOA plates?
In case you didn't figure it out, or to inform viewers:
A 20 MOA base is generally used for shooting 500 - 1000 + yards depending on the scope and caliber (At 100 yards, one MOA is about 1" [slightly more] )The scope mount cants downward at 20 MOA, which will allow you to zero your gun at a greater distance. This prevents your scope from reaching the limit of elevation adjustment. I would recommend zeroing a rifle with a 20 MOA rail at 200 yards Good luck
I bought a viper PST gen one and I’m putting it on a 20 MOA rail. I know the objective is 50 mm and so that leads me to think I need to go high rings but I’d rather use medium if I can. What do you recommend?
I have a 7mm rem mag I am putting together. It has a muzzle break. Does it matter if I use steel or aluminum for my Picatini rail and rings or not?
Bergara HMR, just ordered a Viper PST G2, which rings should I use? Should I use locktite on the rings? Or some other thread locker? I assume they don't need lapped. Any input would be appreciated, I'm new to this.
Great vid...big fan of Vortex...missed the live feed for a question. If I have a Remington 700 chambered in 300 winmag and planning for the a scope with a 30mm tube and 50mm objective (6-24x50 HS-T or HS LR). What is the lowest rings I can get that will fit and give sufficient room between the barrel and objective. Specifically it is the Remington 700 5r G2 rifle in 300 winmag. Thanks.
+VikingSenso - I'd recommend rings in a "Low" height if you're running a picatinny base, or "Medium" for a set of weaver bases! -RJ (Raleckson@vortexoptics.com)
@@VortexOpticsUSA - What do you consider "low" height? I will be running a 20 MOA picatinny base on my Christensen Ridgeline with the Viper PST Gen II 5-25x50. Would you recommend the 0.87 or 0.97 Vortex Match Rings?
@@tannerbingham5177 - .87" would be considered "low" while .97" would be "medium." With the 50mm objective bell on your scope, you'll want a set of high 1.26" PMR rings.
Does Vortex ever put their strikefire II on sale, I am a beginner shooter and not looking to spend too much on my optics
Any sales would be up to our dealers, so we would definitely recommend keeping an eye out for them!
I purchased a DBK-RIM 2-7 x35 Rimfire V-plex Vortex Diamondback riflescope. I would like to mount it on to my .22 bolt action Marlin Glenfield Model 25. What rings would you suggest?
I have a Remington 700 in .308 win what base and rings you suggest for a 50mm objective? And what power ? Mostly deer hunting ,some long range!
I have a 34 mm scope tube and I am looking for a 34 mm rings mounts to attach on 338 sako win mag Finland rifle to my rifle ,some hint?
Hey there - which optic do you have? Also, do you have a 1-piece Picatinny rail on your Sako?
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for this rifle there are none of these will fit. this rifle has only factory mount parts, this is the Sako A5 (Romans 5) model 338 wines mag Finland. thank you for your interest in my problem My optiks is it 34 mm tube 5-25-56 Cabelas neither Picatinny or Weaver match what I'm looking for so far
@@zdzichzcan2808 gotcha - our rings will require either a Weaver base or a Picatinny rail to mount to, so unfortunately we do not have an option for your setup.
I just purchased an Anschutz MSR and am looking at a Vortex Venom. I ordered the Anschutz 1761 scope base from Area419. Guidance for rings ?
Hi, what would you recommend for the best mount for the vortex 3-9x40 scope
I have a Remington ADL 308 26 inch barrel and I am gonna put a 6x25x50 tactical vortex what mounts would you recommend
Recommendations for a Christensen ridgeline With the LHT 4.5-22x50?
Any good rings with a level already on it?
@@Vexzah We don't have any rings with a level on them, but the 30 mm Pro Rings - Medium would be a great option for that setup.
@@VortexOpticsUSA thanks so much!
I'm picking up a Mossberg MVP Patrol and was wondering about recommendations on rings and mounts that would still allow me to use the iron sights in addition to a mounted scope. Any ideas?
What would you recommend for someone that’s cross eye dominant
Lots of practice! But in all seriousness, it depends on the platforms. Many cross-eye dominant shooters have found that red dots are much easier to use, so for AR platforms those are preferred. For more traditional bolt action rifles, it's really finding how it's comfortable for you to shoot. There are people that try to switch up their positioning on the rifle or even run offset rings so they can use their dominant eye. There are plenty of options available!
I have an M1A socom cqb and want to run the crossfire 2 on it. I have the attachment to extend the length of the rail system to allow more scope options. However, I have no idea what scope ring mount to get. I was looking at the cantilever scope mount 3mm. Will this work?
From 50 yards on my bolt action marlin 22. Zeroes great! Next I’ll zero for 100 yards. Good value.
Which mount would you suggest for a crossfire 2 on an ar?
Iam in my 60s, so my eyes aren't what they used to be. So i need to put a scope on my Browning BL .22 .What scope and scope mount would you advise me to put... Thanks for any suggestions.
On a gun like that you'll want something with a nice, forgiving eyebox and good eye relief to make up for the fact that it will probably have to sit up a bit higher than is ideal just due to the design of the receiver and the stock of the rifle, so we'd recommend checking out something like our Crossfire II 2-7x32 Rimfire, or the Viper HS 2.5-10x44, the Viper being the better of the two by quite a great deal, but also a fair bit more expensive.
Just need to confirm medium height precision matched Vortex rings are appropriate for mounting a Viper Gen II 5-25x50 SFP. Will be with a 20 MOA Picatinny rail by EGW mounted on a Bergara HMR Pro (6.5 Creedmoor). Thanks
Joe Ober have you shot your hmr yet.. I was looking into that rifle. Not sure if I'll go with it or the bmp.
My tactical guns I like the scope up off the gun but my precision guns I like the scope down tight. I own mounts of just about every height.
I just bought a Crossfire II and I am going to put it on a Ruger 10/22 Takedown, which rings do you suggest?
So I spent the money on the big dog. Razor HD GEN II. I am mounting it on a Rem 700 308 tac. I got a Warne zero MOA rail. I have the vortex 1.10 rings headed my way. After looking at how big this is. I’m worried that my rings are going to be to short. My stalk is a archangel with some adjustment. It’s kind of a bummer spending this kind of money and you just can’t go to the local sporting goods store and get what you need.
The 1.1" inch height should provide enough clearance for that setup. If your stock does have adjustment, if you run into any issues you can always jump up to the 1.26" inch height, but you should be just fine with what you have!
Tikka T3 .243, just ordered a Vortex PST 4x24 50. What size of scope rings would you recommend?
Medium height 30mm rings should do perfect.
Purchased a Tikka t3x Varmint that still needs to be picked up. Was wondering if the PMR at 1.45 will be correct with using your Vortex Strike Eagle 5x25x56?
Curious about the clearance of objective lens with a defender flip cap?
Thanks for reaching out! The 1.45" inch height might be a bit too high for that platform. The 1.1" inch height will be much more comfortable.
I have a .308 Ruger American with a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x50 with a 30mm main tube. What rings and mounts should i install? I currently have the Vortex Tactical 30mm High Rings but it seems that the scope is sitting way to high above the barrel. I would prefer installing a single uni base to help eliminate the need to properly balance/position the 2 sets of rings on the scope.
medium rings, High rings are to tall on a RAR with 50mm bell
Hey! I just purchased a Savage Axis 2 Precision rifle and I plan on purchasing your Vortex Venom 5x25 56mm scope. What rings would you recommend for this rig?
Great choice for that setup! The 34 mm Precision Matched Rings 1.1" inch height would be the way to go for that setup.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you!!
What height rings would you recommend for a Vortex Viper 6.5-20x44 30mm tube mounted on my hunting rifle Savage Axis II .270 win (with accutrigger) Planning on using the Talley or leupold two piece style rings.
Will 34mm med scope rings work on a 5×30×56mm scope mounted on a ar15?
Will the vortex pro series rings handle a 50 bmg?
I have a remington 700 SPS in . 308and i want to mount the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50FFP MRAD and EGW 20moa base. What set of Vortex rings height do you recommend ?
O moa base..?
What rings do I need for a vortex viper 5x25 on a Winchester model 70 300 win mag?
Appears there is a discussion on a forum, Vertical rings vs horizontal.
Can you provide any feedback on this?
Apparently they found issues with vertical rings or quick release mounts with Vertical ring mounts.
Just curious, thanks.
What torque setting do you recommend on your anti-cant bubble level? Do you recommend thread locker on that? I know you do not on rings.
No thread locker necessary there either and the bubble level doesn't need to be crazy tight - 15 inch pounds max should do it just fine.
I bought a crossfire ll 4-12x50 scope ....and got VPR-1H High mounts not knowing scopes had specific mounts for specific models. I got them because i liked them ....rifle is a win M70 30-06..... Question is...will that affect performance ? I doubt it will but id like to make sure before i sight it in ...Thanks in advance ...
I'm working on putting together a 300 blackout ar, what would be the best scope rings to use. I have a vortex diamondback scope that I was planing to use for this.
Hey Martin - thanks for considering Vortex in your search for a new scope! How far do you plan on shooting? Do you have a specific budget you're trying to stay within? Please let us know and we'll gladly help you find a good match.
Hi Guys,
I just purchased the Vortex Viper PST Gen II 5-25 x 50 and plan to mount it on my Tikka T3x TAC A1. Can you let me know what high quality set of rings would best suit this application and give me the most out of the scope?
Note: I don’t intend to shoot past 1000yrds.
P.S keep up the great work, these vlogs are extremely informative 👍🏻
Thanks for the feedback and good words - we really appreciate it. The best mount for that scope/gun combo is the Precision Matched Rings in the 1.45" height to clear the hand guard. You can find them at: vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-precision-matched-rings-30mm-riflescope-145
Vortex, this video was super helpful and brought up a question at the same time (hopefully it's answered here because I don't have a FB). I recently bought my first scope, Vortex Crossfire II 4-12x44, that I'm looking to mount on my Savage Axis .30-06. What recommendation would Vortex have on which rings to purchase for this combination?
1OutdoorTradition Not a Vortex product but I have used and am very happy with DNZ Game Reaper on a Savage model 10. www.dnzproducts.com/product/game-reaper-savage-2/
+1OutdoorTradition - I'd run our Pro-Series/Viper rings in a "medium" Height profile. I think this would work well! -RJ (Raleckson@vortexoptics.com)
Would the Pro Series/Viper rings in a "medium" height fit a weaver mount for the same Savage Axis .30-06? Or is a Picatinny recommended instead?
Absolutely!
For a Ruger American chambered in.308 with a Vortex Viper PST II 5-25x50 first focal plane scope are the low rings too low to clear the defender flip caps and the bolt action handle? I'll be using the EGW picatinny rail. Any thoughts on EGW HD rail (.35" high) verses standard rail (.40" high)? Also, vortex precision match or pro rings?
Accuracy arctic warfare with VORTEX HST 6-24x50 scope..which height should i choose??vortex rings...i mean..thanks!!awesome optics..keep up!!in mm please :-)
Can you tell me about the glue that comes with your mounts? Why is it red eventhough people advise me against red loctite? Is it red loctite?
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What cantilever would you recommend for a Rise Armament 1121XR 6.5 Creedmoor, topped with a Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 riflescope?
What are the main differences between each of the cantilever mount options?
And lastly, I might want to get into long range shooting sometime in the future, but do I really need to spend the extra $$$ on getting a precision cantilever? Or could a Sport/Pro cantilever be steady, sufficient, or reliable enough for the lower kick of a 6.5?
(I also plan to use this gun hunting as well, so I prefer to keep it on the lighter side when possible.)
The pro cantilever would be perfect. All of them are plenty reliable and steady for a 6.5, the main thing you get as you upgrade from sport to pro to precision is the overall quality and precision tolerances that go into making the mounts themselves. For someone looking for the ultimate in precision machined rings that are perfectly matched to one another, the precision cantilever mount can't be beaten. That build quality does help it in reliability on heavy recoiling guns, or in harsh uses, but it's unlikely you'll be testing those limits with what you describe. The Pro is a great choice as well, plenty durable and reliable and at about half the cost. Many of us here use all three depending on the situation. For your particular application, the Pro seems perfect.
Just bought your guys diamondback tactical scope. What scope height would you recommend for a ruger m77 .270 win?
The Ruger mount is a bit funky and exclusive to the M77, so you'll need to use their rings (30mm - medium height). You could also go to a weigatinny rail (if you insisted on using a more precision ring set, like the Precision Matched Rings in our line). If you chose the latter, we'd recommend a set of our medium height 30mm Pro Rings which you can find here: vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-pro-series-30mm-riflescope-rings-medium-height
What rings would you recommend for a Winchester Apex .50 caliber muzzleloader with a Vortex Crossfire 3-9x40 scope
If you have Weaver bases or a Picatinny rail on your muzzleloader the 1" Pro Series Rings - Medium (PR1-M) would be great for your setup!
I just got the vortex 4-12x50AO crossfire II and I want to mount it on my ar15
What mount would you recommend
sport 1 inch cantilever mount!
Vortex Optics thank you very much!
looking a purchasing vortex scope for predator hunting which scope do u recommend
When mounting a Strike Eagle 1-8 on a flat top modular sporting rifle, would you recommend a cantilever mount with 0 MOA or 20 MOA?
It really depends on how far you're planning to shoot. For most practical shooting applications with an AR chambered in 5.56, you won't need a 20 MOA base to shoot out to 600 yards. If you plan on shooting super long range, you're probably going to want to go to a higher magnified optic. Let us know what kind of shooting you'll be doing and we'll be able to help recommend what kind of mounting solution is best for you.
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you for the quick response! First time putting a powered optic on a modular sporting rifle, and was concerned with height over bore effecting the scopes elevation travel.
I'm about to buy the new Vortex Razor HD Gen 3, I'm going to put it on a SCAR 17s, what mount do you recommend? Thanks in advance!
34mm one piece cantilever mount like our Precision 34mm mount we have on our website. We would opt for the "0 MOA" version unless you intend to shoot at long ranges.
@@VortexOpticsUSA huge thanks!
I am getting ready to purchase a viper pst genII 2x10x32 for my new ar ten, what cantilever should I get with it?
+Patrick "Flea7.62x51" Felice - I'd recommend our Precision Extended Cantilever mount, but if you need a QR mount, check out our Precision QR mount. Both in 30mm, both would work Awesome! -RJ (Raleckson@vortexoptics.com)
Hi, does your 30mm AR scope mounts need lapping?
They shouldn't, no.
I'm trying to mount a Diamondback tactical 4-16x44 scope on a mini 14 tactical. With the stock fully forward, I can't get a usable eye relief. What rings can I use to move the scope back far enough to solve the problem?
The best solution would be to get a mounting solution that would allow you to mount it over the receiver. Even if you got a cantilever mount and reversed it it would still not provide enough eye relief for you to use it properly.
Good day sir.
What is the difference between vertically split rings and horizobtally split rings?
Also...what type and height rings would you recommand for a CZ 557 Ranger with a pic rail over the reciever.
Hey there - the difference is where they are putting pressure. Horizontally split rings are much friendlier on scope tube bodies and will be much easier to mount as they don't pull the optic to a different direction like vertically split rings will.
What optic are you looking to mount on your CZ?
@@VortexOpticsUSA Thank you...why would anyone want to install the vertical rings then?
I was thinking a Viper PST 3-15 gen 2 scope.
@@VLK-73 For that setup, a set of the 30 mm Pro Series Rings - Medium (PR30-M) would work perfect!
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Thank you so much for your advice.
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One more if you don't mind?
I'm thinking that I might possibly go for the Vortex Viper 2 gen PST 1-6 LPVO instead.
Would the earlier advice regarding the 30 mm medium rings still apply?
I want to purchase a Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24X50 EBR-2C (MRAD) for my recently purchased Ruger Predator (22 inch barrel) bolt action chambered in 6.5 grendel.
What size/height rings do you recommend for the factory picatanny rail (I believe it’s a 20 MOA rail but I’m not sure) ? Thanks Vortex Optics !
Great choice for that setup! A set of the 30 mm Pro Series Rings - Medium (PR30-M) would be perfect for that setup.
@@VortexOpticsUSA the customer service rep on the phone said 0.9 inch PR-30L was what is needed. What’s the difference between the PR-30L and PR-30M ?
@@billc9178 The difference is only about .1". Both would work just fine, however if you are planning on running any type of flip caps the extra .1" may be beneficial.
@@VortexOpticsUSA so does the Vortex Diamondback Tactical 6-24X50 EBR-2C (MRAD) come with flip caps ? And will it still fit on the Ruger Predator 6.5 grendel with flip caps and 0.9 inch rings ? I just want mount it as low as possible but still have clearance.
Thanks for all the advice btw. I greatly appreciate it.
@@billc9178 It does not come with flip caps. They will come with the bikini style tethered lens covers. at the .9" inch height it would definitely be a more snug fit.