Thanks for the feedback and review! I will say regarding HQ, we will eventually offer a means to just bypass the resource component, as once Chapter 3 comes out it would become a massive slow point in the story. In fact, that last quest in C2 will likely be completely overhauled - in the same way we changed The Disappearance of Jake Evans at the start of C2.
SS2 just like the OG, is a GREAT mod. If not the greatest on the Nexus. Just wish Rise of the Commonwealth addon wasn't so buggy. Really enjoy the settlement plans much more than the default.
The rise of commonwealth addon is super buggy and it's hard to get a ton of resources without baby sitting all your settlements.....I even tried using the IDEK addon as well to improve my resource management.
WILL THERE BE A WAY FOR MODDED FACTIONS TO BE INVOLVED. Like legion of steel. Or commonwealth responders. These mods make sense to be incorporated. maybe by 3rd party modders like all the conqueror mods.
I think it's a little strange to ask how someone who ignores settlement building is supposed to complete the main quest, when the entire point of the quest line (and the mod in general) _is_ the settlement building. I know Kinggath has said that there will be a means to bypass resource reuqirements, but _my_ answer to the question of how someone who skips settlement building is meant to finish the story would be that they aren't. The focus of Sim Settlements has always been on the settlement gameplay. It's right in the name. Building settlements is the core gameplay, and the story exists to make it engaging, and offer rewards for doing it.
Fact is that up until the questline suddenly demanding you have completely mastered the SS2 mechanics towards the end of Chapter 2, including using plot types I'd never seen outside of a cheat-unlocks play of Ch1, your settlements are pretty much irrelevant to the questline - to the level of it feeling like a completely separate quest-mod that just had some mentions of settlements grafted on. And as for "rewards", those must still be coming in Chapter 3, since there isn't really any of note in chapter 1 or 2 (*less* rewarding than the vanilla systems on the whole) - and by that time, even a "did nothing but SS2" character would be at a level they don't *want* anything anyway.
@@FollowerToshiTo me its a building mod with story elements. Its not really meant to be primarily a stand alone story mod. In fact the story itself wouldn't even make a lot of sense if the PC didn't build up a settlement/HQ through out the game. I don't think it needs to be cut or made easier as long as there are player cheats for players to skip the content if they wish.
I am of the opinion that if you don't want to use the *settlement* system for a mod called *sim settlements* you must also play red dead redemption without horses. If you don't want to build don't get a mod that equates to an add on for building
As one who enjoys settlement building, SS2 truly adds a reason (or actually many reasons) to be the "architect" of rebuilding civilization. That said, this video really does a good job highlighting that those less ASAM savvy can also enjoy the mod for (mostly) its storytelling alone. So well done on the review.
@@FollowerToshi Absolutely, Have a MO2 instance dedicated to Sim Settlements playthroughs. Can't wait to see what K.G. and the team bring to it throughout the year
The resource gathering part with the settlements you mentioned can be a little easier with the city planner desk and it will make the settlers build the settlement for you which comes with them gathering resources without you having to put in like any input
It is surprisingly difficult to find a concise plot overview for mods like this. Thank you for making this video! I truly appreciate your format of plot overview followed by the pros and cons! EDIT: You should have more subscribers...!
Definitely worth the hype, the creators are to be commended, they took the weakest fallout game, with the weakest narrative, factions, and characters and made me spend hours upon hours on it. They made a better game than Bethesda lol
That's one awesome review! Outstanding summary of the chapter! While I'm mostly excited about the story, I love to theme my settlements based on their location and story. To have them focus on one plot type each and give settlers the training necessary for the most effective stats, it helped keeping things organized and efficient, keeping them all connected with caravans. I highly recommend that tactic. It may take some time to get the hang of it, even when playing at low involvement and easy resources, but to have some really good settlers and mountains of resources makes it so rewarding and immersive once it's time for HQ.
Ive always wished this mod would remove all the base game settlements barring the Castle, Covenant and Bunker Hill while turning Concord, Quincy, Lexington, Forest Grove Marsh, Natick Banks and Salem into walled off cells that can become cities/settlements. That would simultaneously solve the performance problems and make the game a lot better.
I just started playing Sim Settlements 2 and Chapter 2. (I have over 5,000 hours of playthrough prior to Sim Settlements.) Little did I realize installing this mod, how intense the learning curve was... and still is. I am currently starting my seventh playthrough of Sim Settlements 2 & Chapter 2. Between the vanilla game and Sim Settlements 2, there is a lot going on. A lot to learn and a lot to think about. Also, finding workarounds with my low-end PC is a challenge in and of itself. (I can't use too many city plans so I am left with building these settlements by hand.) That all said, I really enjoyed your critique. It has made me what to fight on and master Sim Settlements 2. Thank you.
This series of mods by Kinggath and his crew is the big reason why I'm saving up for a pc so i can enjoy this and all the mods i want without worrying about reserve space. Played both chapters on my xbox x, triple a company material that makes the game 1000% times better. Wish this was available on the Creation club so folks on Playstation could enjoy this masterpiece.
The only trailer released that I could find had huge spoilers and I am glad I was able to skip that and hear a real review on it. I wish there had been a deeper dive into the settlement building features, as that is still the core of the mod and I would like to know if there were any major changes, but I appreciate an honest review of the immense work they've put into this campaign story. Thank you for the video!
I don't use twitch but I'll definitely watch some of your uploaded live streams because i like how you make fallout 4 videos. And i really appreciate this and your last review. I was on the fence about SS2 because of the mod size but i think it'll fit perfectly in my zombie apocalypse play through I'm thinking about
I hated Berman more than Bethesda could make me hate Kellogg. That really shows how well the SS2 characters are written, some could say written better than most the characters in fo4.
Maybe it was just the platform i was using (steam by way of third party app that lets you play on phone, tablet, etc) i couldn't get any of the sim settlement mods to work. Or maybe it was my load order? I cant look at what that was exactly right now.
I can't even finish chapter 1 due to a bug im having where jake dissappeared in his shop and the dude with the glasses wont talk to me to start the quest of jake disappearing
I haven't played it and skipped spoilers I'm debating on getting it but I would only get it for the story mode I like building my settlements from scrap and setting up plots just isn't my thing
Same as you but quite the opposite 😀 I'm still wrestling my head whether to install it or not but mainly for the building part 😀 Pls. allow me to elaborate: i never like base building in F4 vanilla. Too much fiddling around an micromanagement. Last week i found Sim Settlement 1, installed but never touched it. Only after that i found SS2 but haven't installed it yet. Mostly because I'm running a potato and being afraid that SS2 my crash my game. Also because of the (well written) storyline: i just want to play the vanilla game for the story and have SS2 mostly for the base building part.
So I have yet to even complete Chapter 1 - Usually in RPGs I like to have at least *some* idea of where things are going so I don't make a character that completely conflicts with how the game expects. - Specially since my first attempt to play SS2 was met with constant hitting my head against brick walls. Kinda my big criticism of the mod (And all the DLCs for that matter) is throwing the player right in the middle of big battles. I tend to like playing Stealthy squishy characters. They are 95% viable in vanilla Fallout 4, since you can usually sneak and pick off enemies at a range. But the fight when you first meet Aiden was flat out impossible for me without turning on God mode. (Two words: Aimbot Molotovs) And just seeing this, plus hearing Chapter 3 has "War mechanics" (Which I'm sure is going to amount to large groups of enemies that *all* know your exact position) kinda annoys me a fair bit. Since like... This invalidates many of my characters.
Tbf, the Vault 75 Mission (infiltration version) is basically copied from Navarro in Fallout 2 (you disguise yourself as one of them to sneak in, stopped by one guy (He even is a seargant ffs) who also is a downright ass (though wise lacks the verbal fire power of Arch Dornan) and you also learn where the place you need to get to is and the gunners are also US Army inspired. its not completley copied, but you can see the similarities. Heck its Chapter 2 and you can clearly make out the Fallout 2 similarties (Gunner Plaza =Oil rig (baddie big base) And omf there are now gunner remnants and chapter 3 will be some kind of large scale war? Do I hear fallout 3?
Cool! I don't recall that quest in Fallout 2, but I'm sure the SS2 Gunner base quest is just a lame rip-off of it. Try to be a little more original SS2 team!
I despised the HQ part of it. I dont care for settlement building in general, so i used SS2 for settlers to build them themselves. Just too much micromanaging. Unistalled
I despise the settlement system of Sim Settlements 2, classic settlement building is so much more fun to me, I liked it at first but grew to hate it fairly quickly
Thanks for the feedback and review!
I will say regarding HQ, we will eventually offer a means to just bypass the resource component, as once Chapter 3 comes out it would become a massive slow point in the story. In fact, that last quest in C2 will likely be completely overhauled - in the same way we changed The Disappearance of Jake Evans at the start of C2.
I have a question is there any other mods apart from the main mod like any other mod creators that you worked with
SS2 just like the OG, is a GREAT mod. If not the greatest on the Nexus. Just wish Rise of the Commonwealth addon wasn't so buggy. Really enjoy the settlement plans much more than the default.
The rise of commonwealth addon is super buggy and it's hard to get a ton of resources without baby sitting all your settlements.....I even tried using the IDEK addon as well to improve my resource management.
WILL THERE BE A WAY FOR MODDED FACTIONS TO BE INVOLVED.
Like legion of steel.
Or commonwealth responders.
These mods make sense to be incorporated.
maybe by 3rd party modders like all the conqueror mods.
I think it's a little strange to ask how someone who ignores settlement building is supposed to complete the main quest, when the entire point of the quest line (and the mod in general) _is_ the settlement building. I know Kinggath has said that there will be a means to bypass resource reuqirements, but _my_ answer to the question of how someone who skips settlement building is meant to finish the story would be that they aren't. The focus of Sim Settlements has always been on the settlement gameplay. It's right in the name. Building settlements is the core gameplay, and the story exists to make it engaging, and offer rewards for doing it.
Fact is that up until the questline suddenly demanding you have completely mastered the SS2 mechanics towards the end of Chapter 2, including using plot types I'd never seen outside of a cheat-unlocks play of Ch1, your settlements are pretty much irrelevant to the questline - to the level of it feeling like a completely separate quest-mod that just had some mentions of settlements grafted on. And as for "rewards", those must still be coming in Chapter 3, since there isn't really any of note in chapter 1 or 2 (*less* rewarding than the vanilla systems on the whole) - and by that time, even a "did nothing but SS2" character would be at a level they don't *want* anything anyway.
@@FollowerToshiTo me its a building mod with story elements. Its not really meant to be primarily a stand alone story mod. In fact the story itself wouldn't even make a lot of sense if the PC didn't build up a settlement/HQ through out the game. I don't think it needs to be cut or made easier as long as there are player cheats for players to skip the content if they wish.
I am of the opinion that if you don't want to use the *settlement* system for a mod called *sim settlements* you must also play red dead redemption without horses. If you don't want to build don't get a mod that equates to an add on for building
As one who enjoys settlement building, SS2 truly adds a reason (or actually many reasons) to be the "architect" of rebuilding civilization. That said, this video really does a good job highlighting that those less ASAM savvy can also enjoy the mod for (mostly) its storytelling alone. So well done on the review.
Sim settlement is just so much better than original plot
I think Chapter 2 suffers from the "Second Movie Syndrome" No real beginning and no real ending. It Sets up Chapter 3 Amazingly well
@@FollowerToshi Absolutely, Have a MO2 instance dedicated to Sim Settlements playthroughs. Can't wait to see what K.G. and the team bring to it throughout the year
The resource gathering part with the settlements you mentioned can be a little easier with the city planner desk and it will make the settlers build the settlement for you which comes with them gathering resources without you having to put in like any input
It is surprisingly difficult to find a concise plot overview for mods like this. Thank you for making this video! I truly appreciate your format of plot overview followed by the pros and cons!
EDIT: You should have more subscribers...!
Yeah he is one of few game reviewers that have a tolerable voice
Old paul's death felt like a sad version of the opening to new vegas
or just a sad version of nora's death
i guess pick whichever comparison you want
Won me over with this one. Great take. Never had you come across my feed before. Glad I took the chance.
Definitely worth the hype, the creators are to be commended, they took the weakest fallout game, with the weakest narrative, factions, and characters and made me spend hours upon hours on it. They made a better game than Bethesda lol
That's one awesome review! Outstanding summary of the chapter!
While I'm mostly excited about the story, I love to theme my settlements based on their location and story. To have them focus on one plot type each and give settlers the training necessary for the most effective stats, it helped keeping things organized and efficient, keeping them all connected with caravans. I highly recommend that tactic. It may take some time to get the hang of it, even when playing at low involvement and easy resources, but to have some really good settlers and mountains of resources makes it so rewarding and immersive once it's time for HQ.
Ive always wished this mod would remove all the base game settlements barring the Castle, Covenant and Bunker Hill while turning Concord, Quincy, Lexington, Forest Grove Marsh, Natick Banks and Salem into walled off cells that can become cities/settlements. That would simultaneously solve the performance problems and make the game a lot better.
I just started playing Sim Settlements 2 and Chapter 2. (I have over 5,000 hours of playthrough prior to Sim Settlements.) Little did I realize installing this mod, how intense the learning curve was... and still is. I am currently starting my seventh playthrough of Sim Settlements 2 & Chapter 2. Between the vanilla game and Sim Settlements 2, there is a lot going on. A lot to learn and a lot to think about. Also, finding workarounds with my low-end PC is a challenge in and of itself. (I can't use too many city plans so I am left with building these settlements by hand.) That all said, I really enjoyed your critique. It has made me what to fight on and master Sim Settlements 2. Thank you.
This series of mods by Kinggath and his crew is the big reason why I'm saving up for a pc so i can enjoy this and all the mods i want without worrying about reserve space. Played both chapters on my xbox x, triple a company material that makes the game 1000% times better. Wish this was available on the Creation club so folks on Playstation could enjoy this masterpiece.
The only trailer released that I could find had huge spoilers and I am glad I was able to skip that and hear a real review on it. I wish there had been a deeper dive into the settlement building features, as that is still the core of the mod and I would like to know if there were any major changes, but I appreciate an honest review of the immense work they've put into this campaign story. Thank you for the video!
I don't use twitch but I'll definitely watch some of your uploaded live streams because i like how you make fallout 4 videos. And i really appreciate this and your last review. I was on the fence about SS2 because of the mod size but i think it'll fit perfectly in my zombie apocalypse play through I'm thinking about
I hated Berman more than Bethesda could make me hate Kellogg. That really shows how well the SS2 characters are written, some could say written better than most the characters in fo4.
Maybe it was just the platform i was using (steam by way of third party app that lets you play on phone, tablet, etc) i couldn't get any of the sim settlement mods to work. Or maybe it was my load order? I cant look at what that was exactly right now.
I can't even finish chapter 1 due to a bug im having where jake dissappeared in his shop and the dude with the glasses wont talk to me to start the quest of jake disappearing
what mod gives you the shoulder mounted flashlight
Thank you for this. I was hoping and praying someone would make a pro review of SS2. Awesome breakdown I am subscribing.
can i say im in love with Jake
I haven't played it and skipped spoilers I'm debating on getting it but I would only get it for the story mode I like building my settlements from scrap and setting up plots just isn't my thing
Same as you but quite the opposite 😀
I'm still wrestling my head whether to install it or not but mainly for the building part 😀
Pls. allow me to elaborate:
i never like base building in F4 vanilla. Too much fiddling around an micromanagement.
Last week i found Sim Settlement 1, installed but never touched it.
Only after that i found SS2 but haven't installed it yet.
Mostly because I'm running a potato and being afraid that SS2 my crash my game. Also because of the (well written) storyline: i just want to play the vanilla game for the story and have SS2 mostly for the base building part.
To be honest the only reason i play sim settlements is because of the settlement, the story is just extra.
So I have yet to even complete Chapter 1 - Usually in RPGs I like to have at least *some* idea of where things are going so I don't make a character that completely conflicts with how the game expects. - Specially since my first attempt to play SS2 was met with constant hitting my head against brick walls. Kinda my big criticism of the mod (And all the DLCs for that matter) is throwing the player right in the middle of big battles.
I tend to like playing Stealthy squishy characters. They are 95% viable in vanilla Fallout 4, since you can usually sneak and pick off enemies at a range. But the fight when you first meet Aiden was flat out impossible for me without turning on God mode. (Two words: Aimbot Molotovs) And just seeing this, plus hearing Chapter 3 has "War mechanics" (Which I'm sure is going to amount to large groups of enemies that *all* know your exact position) kinda annoys me a fair bit. Since like... This invalidates many of my characters.
Sim settlements 2 chapter 2 is not worth for console because it adds little and is too large to have anyother mods
I say the gunners benefactors are well the Enclave only because of the gear they have and training
Tbf, the Vault 75 Mission (infiltration version) is basically copied from Navarro in Fallout 2 (you disguise yourself as one of them to sneak in, stopped by one guy (He even is a seargant ffs) who also is a downright ass (though wise lacks the verbal fire power of Arch Dornan) and you also learn where the place you need to get to is and the gunners are also US Army inspired. its not completley copied, but you can see the similarities.
Heck its Chapter 2 and you can clearly make out the Fallout 2 similarties
(Gunner Plaza =Oil rig (baddie big base)
And omf there are now gunner remnants and chapter 3 will be some kind of large scale war? Do I hear fallout 3?
Cool! I don't recall that quest in Fallout 2, but I'm sure the SS2 Gunner base quest is just a lame rip-off of it. Try to be a little more original SS2 team!
@@Sirick I wouldn't say its a lame rip off, but very heavily inspired
@@MinePlaysLP1 Bro... He's the lead SS2 quest writer.
@@Kilo1158 who is
@@MinePlaysLP1 Sirick
I despised the HQ part of it. I dont care for settlement building in general, so i used SS2 for settlers to build them themselves. Just too much micromanaging. Unistalled
I despise the settlement system of Sim Settlements 2, classic settlement building is so much more fun to me, I liked it at first but grew to hate it fairly quickly
Ewww no, before this mod settlements were one of my most hated concepts in this game
It's STILL a buggy mess
That is a feature in fallout 4