Many years ago I was at a Trek convention and DeForest Kelly was speaking. He said his favorite episode was "The City on the Edge of Forever". I asked for his worst episode. He said "My worst is 'What Are Little Girls Made of?' Why? Because I wasn't in that one".
"The City on the Edge of Forever" is my all-time favorite Star Trek episode. I fell in love with Joan Collins after that. Joan Collins just turned 89! I'll bet she looks fantastic.
Ted Cassidy also provided the voice of Balok’s puppet in The Corbomite Maneuver, and the Gorn captain in Arena. And Sherry Jackson is one of the most, if not the most beautiful woman to appear in Star Trek. Just the definition of beauty.
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but the actress that plays nurse Christine Chapel is Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, the wife of the creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry. She is known as the First Lady of Star Trek. She was in the pilot The Cage as Number One, and later recast as nurse Chapel. Majel also played Lwaxana Troi's mother in The Next Generation. She is also popularly known as The Computer Voice as she voiced nearly all the computers in Star Trek! From this original series through to the 2009 Star Trek movie (recording her final performance just two weeks before she passed). There has been a few surprises since as her voice was again heard in an episode in Picard season 3. Also before her passing, her son Rod Roddenberry set-up a recording studio at home and together they recorded her voice to create a large phonetically library of her voice captured in WAV files. Even long after her passing, she still has many things to share with us!
This episode was written by Robert Bloch, who's best known for writing the novel, "Psycho", which was adapted as a film, directed by Alfred Hitchcock. Ruk the robot was played by Ted Cassidy, who's best known as Lurch, the zombie butler on the sitcom "The Addams Family".
He also provided the alien voice in The Corbomite Maneuver. Cassidy was also the original choice to play the Hulk in the TV series. While he didn't end up playing the Hulk, he did provide the voice of the Hulk in many episodes of that series. Cassidy also played Bigfoot in The Six Million Dollar Man and provided voices for Hanna Barbera cartoons. Most notably the voice of Frankenstein Jr. Roddenberry also used Cassidy as the same character in both pilots for his proposed series Gernesis II. Cassidy also has a memorable role in the film Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid. One of my favorite Cassidy appearances is as a bartender in a beer commercial where he calls Wilt Chamberlain "shorty".
Scott is in charge of engineering, the entire operations division (all red shirts) and is the ship's second officer. He's in charge when Kirk and Spock are both gone. Since his post is not on the bridge, when Kirk and Spock both leave, usually a bridge officer takes "the conn," meaning they're in command until relieved, usually by Scotty. Scotty also often is the chief supervisor and technician of the ship's transporter, because it's the most critical and complex piece of equipment on the ship, other than the engines.
More like half of the redshirts. The operations division is mainly divided between the engineering and security/tactical departments, with a few other generalist operations officers and support system specialists also falling under this umbrella division. Scotty commands the engineers on the Enterprise, while security is someone else's department.
@@JGM154 there's a security chief for sure that's in charge of the security department, as seen in "the devil in the dark," but I don't think he outanks Scott. So that person is definitely in charge of security. The security chiefs direct supervisor would be Scott though, because Scott is the highest ranking operations division officer, and in the case of a tie (security chief also LCDR) Scott would still be in charge as the ship's second officer.
@@JGM154 case in point, Data was Worfs boss. Worf was a department head, but Data was the chief Operations officer, encompassing everyone in a gold shirt. Geordi was also LCDR so they were sort of coequal, but Data was the 2nd officer so he was Geordis boss.
What's that? Actor Ted Cassidy, who played Lurch on the Adams Family TV show. He also did the narrator in the beginning credits of the Incredible Hulk TV show.
I still don't know what little girls are made of, but I very much appreciate whatever it took to make Andrea. Her loss is the real tragedy of this episode.
I think it was meant to be distracting as we meet Christine Chapel up close in her introductory episode and only one focused on her as we question her nature. Is is sugar and spice? In the end, we learn a better question was "what is Roger Corby made of?"
Ruk is played by Ted Cassidy, the same actor who played Lurch in the original "The Addams Family." He later went on to do the voice over in the intro for "The Incredible Hulk" in the 1970's
6:26 That is a type 1 phaser. It's the smaller and more portable Starfleet phaser. The type 2 phaser mainly seen so far is just the type 1 phaser mounted on top of a larger unit with a battery pack that forms a pistol grip. It's an extremely well thought-out modular design unlike anything ever seen in a sci-fi show at the time.
Star Trek was so forward thinking. In addition to the phasers they also had the communicators, transporter, and successfully predicted flat screens, portable data devices, and solid state data storage, among others.
@@RealBLAlley There's a cool moment at the start of "The Cage" where Spock is looking through computer records on the screen and seems to to a quite modern swipe gesture to switch the frames, though he simply swipes the air above the console instead of swiping the screen.
WHAT IS THAT! That is the actor, Ted Cassidy. His best-known role is of Lurch in the '60's TV series 'The Addams Family'. He was usually behind lots of make-up or a complete costume playing aliens or creatures like Bigfoot.
6'9" Ruk (Ted cassidy) was also Lurch in The Addams Family. A prolific actor he was seen everywhere in TV and movies in the late 60s and early 70s. Great character actor and nice guy who left us too soon.
Ted Cassidy was a fine actor with a tremendous basso profundo voice which could inspire fear--or could be very warm. He will always be known as Lurch the butler in the television series based on Charles Addams' strange little cartoons for the New Yorker. He had a left-field hit with "Wesley", which is as far away from horror as you can get. It's on UA-cam. His son, who looks like him, helps keep his memory alive.
In the early 60s he served as a radio announcer and was on the air in Dallas, Texas, November 22, 1963, yes, during THAT fateful tragedy! There's actually a clip here on UA-cam somewhere with Cassidy interviewing witnesses at the scene of Kennedy's assassination.
3:24 Yes, she's still Nurse Christine Chapel here -- but your question's a good one because she returns as several characters throughout the franchise. In fact, already: she was "Number One" in the original series pilot, and you've also heard her as the voice of the ship's computer.
This human / machine question is explored a lot more in Trek going forward. And the cool thing is that it doesn't always come up with the same conclusions.
What makes someone human or alive is also a major question that is explored in reference to the android crew member, "Data," in Star Trek The Next Generation. You have something special to look forward to!
The concept of replacing parts and at what point does the replacement cease to be the actual original person is part of the Ship of Theseus paradox. Its a very interesting as a philosophical riddle. Great, deep reaction!
As chief engineer, Montgomery Scott is basically a mad genius who knows how to cobble pieces and parts together to make a functional system or system bypass or temporary fix to handle immediate needs. He is an engineer and mechanic and a bit of a genius. Hes extremely studious and knowledgeable in engineering, but also in mechanics in general, whether its warp drives, impulse drives, shields, electronics, transporters, and so on. He knows just about everything about just about everything stem-to-stern about his vessel and most other starfleet vessels, and non starfleet ships as well. Add to that, he is an excellent tactical commander and fierce warrior when needed. If a thing is broke, "Scotty" can fix it. He is known as a miracle worker among the bridge crew.
Thank you for watching this! Its one of my favourite episodes for the questions it poses, the Ship of Thesius problem, human consciousness, what we could lose if we mechanize or digitize ourselves. The "Stalactite" scene has since been memed into legend. Also great that youve watched Ghost in the Shell 1995 and played Soma. Another recommended movie is Metropolis from the 1920s.
The writer of this episode, Robert Bloch, was also a member of the original "Lovecraft Circle" around 90 years ago now. These were authors H.P. Lovecraft befriended, and/or whose careers he helped get started in some cases. He makes an oblique reference to HPL with his use of The Old Ones here, and also in a later episode Bloch scripted.
One of the great first season episodes and best Kirk ending line: “Roger Corby was never here”. Well known story of Andrea (Sherry Jackson) walking through the studio cafeteria wearing that costume and causing a sensation.
Uniform colors were adapted from the Navy's use of colors to show different functions on an aircraft carrier flight deck specifically in the original series, blue represented medical and science divisions, gold denoted command positions, and red was worn by engineering, security, and communications divisions.
A chief engineer keeps the engines and power systems (and really anything mechanical) running properly and making repairs and/or modifications as needed, Montgomery Scott in particular is one of the best in Starfleet!
"Her" is the same actress that played "Number One" in the original pilot. She was also Mrs. Gene Roddenberry... The giant was also Lurch from the original "Addams Family."
May I respectfully suggest “City on the Edge of Forever”. Voted as one of the best “episodes” of a television show, ever. It’s an incredible work of television art.
One of their great plot twist episodes. Classic Red Shirt deaths, Kirk outsmarting the villain. I also loved that you caught the now famous stalactite joke. I never knew if they managed to slip that by the network censors or if it was just one of those unintentional accidents that we can all laugh at.
Also, in the spinoff show Star Trek TNG, there is an Android crewmember on board that Starship Enterprise named "Data" and a lot of the themes revolved around him/it are some of the questions you asked about such as whether or not an artificial lifeforms is capable of possessing sentience or a spirit of some kind and so forth.
I love your insights and reactions, especially the questions. You are the first female reactor to note the beauty of some of the actresses. Refreshing.
I kinda miss you including your dad at the end of the TOS reactions. It was sweet, and it reminds me of how I miss my dad, too; he was the one who introduced me to Star Trek, also.
James Doohan had a silver cigarette case in his chest pack when he stormed the beach on D-Day. It saved his life as he was hit 8 times by machine gun fire, being hit once in the chest. He told the story on Howard Stern. He was also an Artillery Officer in WW2 and a highly trained actor.
Montgomery Scott, is to be from Aberdeen, Scotland. The actor, James Dothan, was Canadian. He was in the Canadian Army, in WW2, went in on D-Day, received three wounds (one friendly fire, and German) -two fingers, partial shot off, and abdomen. There are a few times you can see his hand injury. James lived a good long life. Some of his ashes were sent into Space. The idea for Chief Engineer being Scottish, many Scots made steam engines, telephone, bridge engineers, science. Scotty is vital to Trek, as Engineer, Officer in Command, mentor.
One of the reasons why StarTrek explores these questions, and in The Next Generation goes way further with the android Data on the bridge crew, is because Roddenberry was good friends with and took inspiration from Isaac Asimov. Asimov was one of the most prolific hard science fiction authors most famous for his pieces on robots. (Perhaps most notably the three laws of robotics that run through a huge chunk of all fiction and are increasingly used as a foundation for reality as well.)
Scotty is the chief engineer. He was a child prodigy became an engineer at 17. He’s also the operations officer which makes him third in command. He also has transporter responsibilities where he’s in charge of the transporter when Mr. Kyle isn’t there he also likes technical journals and technical manuals which later on he would write them, and other engineers, and Starfleet would learn from Scotty’s engineering background but that’s basically oh, he’s also one of four people who get into the ships armory, which is where all the weapons are Stored, and that’s really his responsibility is on board the enterprise to take care of the engines that makes the ship fly all over the cosmos and his transporter responsibility and the full operations of the shit. All the department heads would answer to him, and then he would brief Spock and then Spock would breathe Captain Kirk, so that’s how that goes , can’t wait for your next one. Keep up the good work and your dad would be very proud of you.
Sherry Jackson's outfit, designed by William Ware Theiss, remains one of the most memorable costumes in the entire Star Trek series. Ms. Jackson had played Danny Thomas' daughter Terry in "Make Room For Daddy". She returned for one episode in the sequel, "Make Room For Granddaddy".
Chapel is played by majel Barrett, same actress that played number one in the first pilot. On screen never mentioned, but there was a novel that had them as sisters.
The current series, streaming “Strange New Worlds” that follows Captain Chris’ Pike, and crew of the Enterprise,…there has been a hint of Corby, that sets up this episode. (Like, a decade before) 🖖
@15:41 you see one of the first examples of... Captain Kirk's... way with women... which he is renowned for in popular culture LOL "Teach me how to LOVE, captain..." LOL
Ruk was played by Ted Cassidy, who played different characters in three different ST episodes, but he was best known for playing Lurch in the original Addams Family tv series. "I am now programmed to please you also." "Oh. Do tell." "It's a giant dildo!" You have to love where Bunny's mind is at.😂 Bunny, if you end up watching The Next Generation episodes too, you'll probably enjoy the episode The Measure of a Man, in which a hearing is held to determine whether or not Data, the android should be considered human, and thus have all the rights of any other Star Fleet officer. It poses many of the same questions as this episode. What does it mean to be human? What is humanity? It's one of my favorite episodes.
22:41 "Are they still the same if they replace everything?" This is an ancient paradox, discussed thoroughly in the Wikipedia article "Ship of Theseus". It is typical of TOS to raise a philosophical question: it takes a puzzle from the ancient past and places it in the speculative future. 🙂
You are not the first to notice the suggestive “rock” held by Kirk 😉 or, how seductive Andrea appears. ☺️ Some of Trek, is not for kids, yet teens and adults “notice”.
The shot showing the activation of the phaser, is extremely brief - but you can see what looks like Korby’s finger or thumb move. His finger or thumb moved either directly onto the trigger, or onto Andrea’s finger, which was on the trigger. It’s clear that the creators’ intent were to show that the Korby android made a decision to wipe out both himself and Andrea. Why did the Korby android decide this? The episode never tells us. The Korby android could have simply been so horrified at the thought that ‘Andrea’ was gaining emotions - becoming some sort of in-between thing that was neither human nor programmable robot - that he made a decision to destroy it even though he’d die too. Alternately, the Korby android - who had thought and believed that he was a perfect transfer of Korby’s consciousness into an android body - had been suddenly forced by Kirk and Chapel, into the realization that, at the very least, that was not what happened: Either, that only a crude approximation of Korby survived, or that the original Korby’s •ambition to help humanity• had survived, but that the original Korby’s judgement and humanity had not. Once the Korby android had come around to Kirk’s point of view - “I’m not Korby, like I thought I was; I’m some kind of inhuman monster, and I wasn’t far from spreading more android-monsters across the galaxy! No way - this ends now!” Korby self-terminated to end the threat to humanity that he now realized he had become. ••• Don't know if you've seen 'The Fly' (1986), but I'm reminded of it now. Similar questions occur to viewers seeing that film: at what point does the protagonist's humanity disappear?
It's refreshing to see a reactor who is genuinely invested in the material. Immediately figuring out why Kirk repeated the phrase during the programming is a perfect example. Another is the philosophical examination afterward, which is what Star Trek used to be about before they made it about bad science, virtue signalling, f-bombs, and ripped out eyeballs. Jello cubes on a bed of dog food is a specialty of mine.
Have you seen Alita, Battle Angel? Sherry Jackson played the android Andrea when she was 24. She's now 81. Her outfit showing side cleavage got her a movie role when she walked into the commissary wearing it. Blake Edwards got her signed up that day.
@@bunnytailsREACTS The question you raised about whether someone would still be human if they transfer their awareness to an android body is a great one. My conclusion is that, "yes" the android would be a human but would NOT be the SAME human. The Android would be a humanized copy, a genuine human but still only a copy of the original one, the original having died. It's similar with twins. Each is identical, yet a completely different human.
Another interesting reaction! There's a bit of inconsistency in this episode but in response to your question, I think Kirk's phaser WAS set to stun when he fired at android Dr Brown (following his signature roll). Normally the stun setting renders the target unconscious by shocking the nervous system with a nonlethal amount of energy. Since the target happened to be an android/robot instead of organic, the energy probably caused something to short out or overload, probably a battery or capacitor, at that caused the visble damage. Remember when phasers are set to kill, the target is completely disintegrated, which didn't occur when Kirk shot Brown. Also, in situations which aren't already known to be life-threatening, Starfleet personnel don;t keep their weapons set to kill. By default going into an unknown situation, they normally have their weapons set to stun. On the topic of consciousness and what constitutes a human, I recommend the movie Ex Machina (2014). That might be a good one to react to, if you haven't already watched it.
Really like how you give context for your thoughts using relatable media you've consumed over the years. I'm always intrigued to understand why people think the way they do, how they acquired their moral compass, what incidents triggered their fears, what inspired their hopes and dreams. The more we as a people understand each other, the less likely we are to engage in the type of conflict we're seeing around the world today.
gotta love the plot twist that korby was an android all along. nurse chapel got a few good story lines during the series. the actress,majel barrett, came back as a different character in star trek the next generation as well as the voice of the enterprise D's computer.
I'm really enjoying rewatching these TOS episodes with you! Its been a minute, but there are so many great eps in this show, it was so ahead of its time. Thank you and happy watching!
This is a very interesting episode. It delves into the concept of living beings losing their humanity when they are incorporated into a mechanized form of their own likeness. It also shows opposite side of the dilemma when you create humanoid servants that are so perfected that they develop their own sense of feeling and self pride to the point where they eventually rebel against their own imperfect creators. This concept will be used in several future sci-fi movies like 2001:A Space Odyssey, Collosis The Forbin Project and The Terminator. No spoilers but future episodes of TOS will again address this subject of man vs machine with the dreaded warning: Be careful what you create.
Unfortunately, humans seem to have no capacity to be careful of what they create. If it's possible someone will create it--either to satisfy their own ego, or for monetary reward.
The human into android f o r immortality was attempted in "Westworld" season 2 as well. Speaking of which, I highly recommend you do reaction videos to the "Westworld" series .
I also noticed long ago that the stalactite looked very phallic, so I knew you would catch that. Ruk was played by Ted Cassidy, the original Lurch on The Addams Family.
That is Christine Chapel, played by Majel Barrett (later Majel Barrett Roddenberry). She's just being lit differently. Incidentally, she has the record for greatest number of appearances of any actor in the Star Trek franchise, appearing in more than 250 episodes and 7 movies (as five different characters!) Andrea's costume is famous as an example of Trek costume designer William Ware's Theiss theory of what makes an outfit sexy: regardless of how much skin it actually shows, the sexiest outfit is the one that looks like it's *about* to show something it shouldn't, yet never does. I have a copy of it for my captain in Star Trek Online lol "He wanted to mix too much of the human and the machine. He wanted the best of both worlds." eyeballs_emoji
Nurse Chapel was played by Majel Barret......Rodenberry. she had dark hair and played Number One in the original pilot episode. She was also the ship computer voice and made appearances in other Star Trek series, as well as an episode of Babylon 5. Not laser. Phaser.
2245 - THE SHIP OF THESEUS - A question was raised by ancient philosophers: After several hundreds of years of maintenance, if each individual piece of the Ship of Theseus was replaced, one after the other, was it still the same ship? This paradox was made famous by the BC tv comedy series 'Only Fools and Horses' where 'Trigger', an old friend of lead character, Del Boy Trotter, and local road sweeper, discussed the many times his sweeping brush' has had both its head and handle replaced numerous times over the years.
Another great reaction, bunnytailsREACTS. To answer your question, yes, Christine was a brunette, her natural hair color in a previous episode you reacted to, The Menagerie. She played Number 1. Fun fact, the actress later married the writer of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry.
Oh the robot episode this is one of the best episodes. 😀 The tall guy was Ted Cassidy the actor that played Lurch in the Addams Family television series. He also voiced an alien in another episode of Star Trek TOS, The Corbonite maneuver.
Yup, we've seen this issue come up in Blade Runner too. The androids in this episode did have emotions, though maybe there was some form of disconnect, like with OpenAI scripting and AI art solutions, where knowledge is mimicked but not really possessed. Ruk had anger, and Andrea had some sense of love or unrequited love, though possibly they were imitating this and not actually feeling it. Or, perhaps they were growing more emotional the longer their neural nets functioned, a bit like in Blade Runner? It's a little unclear. I think the message given toward the end was that there was no fixing the disconnect, and this imperfection in the programming was what inspired the various incidents of violence. In a way, maybe the android emotions were less controllable than those of the humans. In AI, they might be called "hallucinations." "Andrea," BTW, means woman, with "Ander" meaning man. Of course, this is the root of "android." FWIW, some think there were Lovecraft references in the episode, such as "the Old Ones," the underground city, and the trapezoidal doors. Maybe Ruk's strange appearance was also due to Lovecraft influence? IDK.
Mr. Scott is the Chief Engineer onboard. In most eras each ship will have 1 Chief Engineer in charge of the engineering department. Like other dept. heads, they attend important briefings and are pretty high in the chain of command. They're stationed in Main Engineering and command a big crew of technicians. Engineering is under the Operations division, hence the red shirts. Aside from being a skilled manager, the Chief Engineer is also expected to be the best mechanical problem-solver onboard - often getting hands-on with tricky repair work. Scotty happens to be 3rd in command, after Kirk & Spock, but not every Chief Engineer holds that place in the chain of command. Scotty also often runs the transporter, though that seems to just be to get a recognizable character in the scene (plenty of other people can operate it). I think Deep Space 9 is the only show to have a Chief Engineer who's not an officer, but instead a lower ranking (but brilliant) workman.
Your reaction to the giant stone dildo, or "The Captain's Log"(tm) was marvelous. It's been a source of Trekkie humor for a very long time. I wonder how no one during production recognized what it looked like. Or perhaps they did...
1:27 Inferred from Enterprise, TNG and DS9 this era of Star Trek is the Age of Exploration. In Enterprise, the NX-01 Enterprise mostly went to places where other thriving and more powerful civilizations already exist. The local area is crowded. Everything is new to the Terrans, but there is not really a final frontier to go to. In TOS, the frontier is wide open as the new ships like the NCC1701 Enterprise travel beyond that bubble of civs. 85+ years later TNG and DS9 imply the former "frontier" is closed, due to the efforts of the ships in the TOS doing all the mapping and exploring. There are still pre-FTL civs and dead wonders, but are fewer unknown in civilized territory.
Another enjoyable reaction! It's fun to see how you anticipate things, and react based on whether or not they come to be in each episode. And especially how you react to the styrofoam scenery. Nurse Chapel was played by Majel Barrett, who was one of Gene Roddenberry's mistresses until he divorced his wife and married Majel. She appeared as Nurse Chapel in The Naked Time, and she was also Pike's first officer in The Cage (thus the memory of the dark hair). She also played a third, almost ubiquitous, character in the series, including episodes you've already seen; it will be interesting to see if you spot this. Ted Cassidy played Ruk, but he's more famous as Lurch in the 1960's TV series The Addams Family where he played two characters. Did you notice that his voice also bears a striking resemblance to that of a menacing character in The Corbomite Maneuver? He was also an accomplished organist, and he was a DJ for a radio station in Dallas. He was present when JFK was killed, and he did some of the first media interviews in the aftermath. In this episode, they also brought back one of the original phaser pistols from The Cage. It was the one that Andrea used. Scotty is the ship's chief engineer and third in command. He's the reason that nothing ever breaks on the Enterprise (as quoted by Ron Moore, who wrote several episodes of the Next Generation and was responsible of the re-imagining of Battlestar Galactica in the early 2000's). We've already seen Scotty operate the transporter, replace the control boards on the bridge with unrelated ones salvaged from a mining operation, and implode the engines to initiate time travel. And he was the A/V guy for the wedding last week. I'm sure he also assigns the guy who shovels coal into his bonny bairns. James Doohan, who played Scotty, was a Canadian war veteran. He served in the infantry, artillery, and as pilot in the air force. On D-Day, he lost a finger during combat. He was good at hiding it, but occasionally you can see it onscreen. You don't see it when he operates the transporter because a stunt double did the hand shot. He was also very personable and gracious when I met him briefly at my first convention, a combined Star Trek and Doctor Who fan event. Here are some thought experiments: You have Granddad's axe. He's had it for many years. Over time, he replaced the head and the handle many times, and yet it's still Granddad's axe. Then he dies, and over time, you've replaced the head twice and the handle thrice. Yet it's still Granddad's axe. Or is it? People think of the word "protect" as meaning to safeguard, preserve, shield, defend, shelter, secure, and any number of noble-sounding things. Protect the species. Protect the habitat. Protect the economy. Protect our homes. Protect the children. Protect the religion. Protect ourselves. And yet, we come into conflict over these things. What are we willing to destroy to keep what we have? And who are we willing to kill for the right to live? Ruk said words to the effect of: The old ones grew fearful and began turning us off, so we destroyed them. Ruk and his kind may be more human than we give them credit for.
all of that, and you seem to have missed that Majel Barrett also was the computer voice for almost all the tv series and movies including the first rebooted movie right before she passed.
@@itubeutubewealltube1 That sounds a lot like "a third, almost ubiquitous, character in the series" but I was kind of hoping Bunny would discover that for herself.
There are two films that explore this theme you have discussed. "Bicentennial Man" with Robin Williams and "A.I. Artificial Intelligence" directed by Steven Spielberg. I think you will enjoy them, Bunny Tails.
The episode you saw "Nurse Chappel" in was The Cage (the pilot episode), where she was a brunette, and, a completely different Character (first office). She was also the wife of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry (who stopped dating Nichelle Nicols) to start dating Majel Barrett.
Gene was married to another woman, but had several girlfriends on the side. During the filming of the series, Majel Barrett was a current girlfriend, and was still a "friend with benefits" with Nichols. Gene and Majel married after the series was cancelled. Majel wore a blond wig. The studio execs apparently didn't recognize her from the first pilot.
@@timmooney7528 Nichols and Roddenberry were *not* "involved" during TOS, although he still fancied her. NBC knew who Majel was, they may not have known it was her immediately, but within a day or two they knew who she was. You should listen to, *Inside Star Trek: The Real Story: Solow, Herbert F., Justman, Robert H.* and it will clear up a lot of your misconceptions.
And if you believe, as many of us do, that we are souls... who just happen to be living inside of bodies for a while... the issue becomes all the more fascinating. This topic is at the core of much of the best speculative fiction out there. Everything from this episode to "Robocop," ultimately, are dealing with the same issue. What makes us... US? What, ultimately, makes me... ME? It's literally the most important existential question any fiction can ever address. The trick is trying to find new and entertaining ways to do so.
Every time i hear that title used I think of Van Halen's Poundcake music video opener. Why does it bother her when she uses the name Roger? Because Chapel knows he's been Rogering her that's why. DUHH! "mmmoooohh, do tell!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lots of deep questions with this episode… but then there’s that one dress Sherry Jackson (Andrea) wears and I forget what we’re talk8 g about… oh and Lurch of course! Great stuff.
She also voices the ship’s computer in many Star Trek shows well into the 1990’s. On Star Trek show The Next Generation she played Laxwana Troi the mother of character Counselor Deana Troi.
They are made of bunny pellets and carrots. You are what you eat. Scotty keeps the ship going. Most of his lines are: I CANNOH KEEP HER GOING CAPPIN’! I was on an aircraft carrier Nimitz for 5 years of 8 in the navy. The chief Engineer of the ship ran the nuclear power engineering spaces deep inside the ship. And he had the rank of Captain… just like the commanding officer and executive officer of the ship. Funny coincidence- the ship had its own dentist who was also a Navy Captain! 😅 he was a very old man too. It’s like Dear Lord! This man is both a doctor and a high ranking naval officer… kind of like Bones on Star Trek 🤔
"Something sinister's afoot!" :) I love the way you're totally open about what you're thinking. You remind me of one other reactor I like, who is not averse to commenting on dreamy-looking men AND beautiful women, even though she is one herself. Your unguarded glibness is very appealing and honest. About that, yes, Andrea is SO pretty. Every time I watch this episode, I can't take my eyes off her. Sherry Jackson is 81, and is still a very nice-looking woman. Ted Cassidy (Ruk) is one of the gems of old-time TV. Don't know if you've ever heard of "The Addams Family," the original TV show I watched as a kid. People have seen the movie, but many did not experience the TV show. Cassidy was hilarious as the butler, Lurch. His famous line, "You rang?," which he said every time Gomez would summon him via a bell pull, always made me laugh, as he delivered it in his lower-than-possible voice. Originally intended as a mute character, Cassidy ad libbed the line, cracking up the whole crew, so they started giving him lines. One other thing he would do is shake his head and moan with disapproval when he anticipated something sinister afoot. He was 6'9".
Perhaps the easiest way to think about Lieutenant Commander Montgomery Scott's role on Enterprise, as Chief Engineer (a department head role), is that he's in charge of the ship itself. Maintaining it, repairing it, improving it. Lieutenant Commander Leonard Horatio McCoy, as Chief Medical Officer (a department head role, again), is responsible for the same...maintaining, repairing, and improving... but the crew, not the ship. Everyone else aboard is there to do something "looking outwards," but those two departments are primarily inward-facing. "Operations" (gold shirts) run the ship and it's functions. "Science" (under as of now still "Lieutenant Commander" Spock, who gets promoted to full Commander in season 2) focuses primarily on "looking outwards." On a ship whose primary mission is exploration, this is arguably the most important role, but in most other ships, "science" would be lower in the ranking. Finally, there's "Security." These guys are essentially a blend between "military police" and "the marines." They provide aboard-ship security, but also provide armed escort for VIPs in hostile territory. It's that second role that gets so many of them killed. Security and Engineering both wear Red. So, oddly, does Uhura, who is part of "operations" and thus really should wear gold. Similarly, the Captain's yeoman should also wear gold. And science and medical both wear blue. When the movies started, the colors were revisited... each subgroup getting it's own color, plus adding a separate one for "command"... and there were no longer any exceptions. In the films: Command - White Operations - Gold Engineering - Red Science - Blue Medical - Green Security - Purple In TMP, thus is mainly on the circles behind the chest emblem, on the sleeve rank tabs on long sleeve versions, and the shoulder rank epaulettes on short sleeve versions. For all the subsequent films, this same color scheme was used, but on the turtleneck undershirts, and various trim elements on outer garments (dress jackets, field jackets, etc.)
Here, Kirk demonstrates his unique superpower: the ability to confuse a computer or elicit emotional responses from androids and similar constructs. Andrea is very pretty. I'm sure I had confused feelings seeing her that first time on my old family tv. The... detachable stalactite... has been memed to death because everybody saw what you did, and giggled at the sight of Kirk holding it. Scotty and the folks under him generally have to keep the ship running. Power comes from one place (the engine), but needs to be managed and distributed according to the ships' needs. An exaggerated example: weapons and shields can be fed extra power to enhance them, but there's a point where feeding them MOAR POWAH becomes useless (might cause an overload) and bad for other operations on the ship (less power to internal gravity, navigation, lighting, toilets...). Engineering also fabricates parts and tools that the ship or the crew may need. There's a station on the bridge where Scotty can monitor engineering remotely, but you'll find him more often in front of his master console in engineering, where the action really is.
Loved this reaction. As a kid, I never "saw" the giant male appendage. The actress that played Andrea is one of my favorites from ALL the series. Interestingly in the recent Star Trek series "Picard", there is a twist of this plot basically in season 2, continues to season 3. Though it is not directly referenced. The actor playing giant android Ruk, he was very interesting person. Wish he would have been in more shows/movies. Had a great voice.
Many years ago I was at a Trek convention and DeForest Kelly was speaking. He said his favorite episode was "The City on the Edge of Forever". I asked for his worst episode. He said "My worst is 'What Are Little Girls Made of?' Why? Because I wasn't in that one".
Ooh!
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Fair comment... Can't blame him on that one....
Dr Lazarus in Galaxy Quest talking to Taggart: “you stole all my best lines, you CUT ME OUT OF EPISODE 2 entirely!!!” Haha
"The City on the Edge of Forever" is my all-time favorite Star Trek episode. I fell in love with Joan Collins after that. Joan Collins just turned 89! I'll bet she looks fantastic.
Ted Cassidy also provided the voice of Balok’s puppet in The Corbomite Maneuver, and the Gorn captain in Arena.
And Sherry Jackson is one of the most, if not the most beautiful woman to appear in Star Trek. Just the definition of beauty.
she comes in second for me behind barbara bouchet from "by any other name".
@@ice-iu3vv and for me, they BOTH come in behind Yeom, Tonia Barrows from “Shore Leave“…❤❤❤
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet but the actress that plays nurse Christine Chapel is Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, the wife of the creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry.
She is known as the First Lady of Star Trek. She was in the pilot The Cage as Number One, and later recast as nurse Chapel.
Majel also played Lwaxana Troi's mother in The Next Generation. She is also popularly known as The Computer Voice as she voiced nearly all the computers in Star Trek! From this original series through to the 2009 Star Trek movie (recording her final performance just two weeks before she passed). There has been a few surprises since as her voice was again heard in an episode in Picard season 3. Also before her passing, her son Rod Roddenberry set-up a recording studio at home and together they recorded her voice to create a large phonetically library of her voice captured in WAV files. Even long after her passing, she still has many things to share with us!
This episode was written by Robert Bloch, who's best known for writing the novel, "Psycho", which was adapted as a film, directed by Alfred Hitchcock.
Ruk the robot was played by Ted Cassidy, who's best known as Lurch, the zombie butler on the sitcom "The Addams Family".
He also provided the alien voice in The Corbomite Maneuver. Cassidy was also the original choice to play the Hulk in the TV series. While he didn't end up playing the Hulk, he did provide the voice of the Hulk in many episodes of that series. Cassidy also played Bigfoot in The Six Million Dollar Man and provided voices for Hanna Barbera cartoons. Most notably the voice of Frankenstein Jr.
Roddenberry also used Cassidy as the same character in both pilots for his proposed series Gernesis II.
Cassidy also has a memorable role in the film Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.
One of my favorite Cassidy appearances is as a bartender in a beer commercial where he calls Wilt Chamberlain "shorty".
He also did the voice over in the intro for "The Incredible Hulk" in the 1970's@@richardb6260
There hasnt been another actor that can fill his shoes :D
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And an alien in the Twilight Zone.
@@shawbros if you're referring to "To Serve Man", that was Richard Kiel, who played Jaws in the Bond films.
Scott is in charge of engineering, the entire operations division (all red shirts) and is the ship's second officer. He's in charge when Kirk and Spock are both gone. Since his post is not on the bridge, when Kirk and Spock both leave, usually a bridge officer takes "the conn," meaning they're in command until relieved, usually by Scotty. Scotty also often is the chief supervisor and technician of the ship's transporter, because it's the most critical and complex piece of equipment on the ship, other than the engines.
More like half of the redshirts. The operations division is mainly divided between the engineering and security/tactical departments, with a few other generalist operations officers and support system specialists also falling under this umbrella division. Scotty commands the engineers on the Enterprise, while security is someone else's department.
Thank you 😁
@@JGM154 there's a security chief for sure that's in charge of the security department, as seen in "the devil in the dark," but I don't think he outanks Scott. So that person is definitely in charge of security. The security chiefs direct supervisor would be Scott though, because Scott is the highest ranking operations division officer, and in the case of a tie (security chief also LCDR) Scott would still be in charge as the ship's second officer.
@@JGM154 case in point, Data was Worfs boss. Worf was a department head, but Data was the chief Operations officer, encompassing everyone in a gold shirt. Geordi was also LCDR so they were sort of coequal, but Data was the 2nd officer so he was Geordis boss.
Great description 👌 👍
Scottie's job is to tell Kirk that whatever he's asking for is impossible; then to get it done in the nick of time. He's VERY good at this!!
You beat me to it! 😆
Scotty: "It'll take an hour to fix."
Kirk: "I need it in five minutes!"
How else do you expect him to be seen as a miracle worker!
What's that? Actor Ted Cassidy, who played Lurch on the Adams Family TV show. He also did the narrator in the beginning credits of the Incredible Hulk TV show.
I never realized that was Ted Cassidy, at the beginning of Hulk. "Doctor David Banner ... physician ... scientist ..."
He also did the voice of Balok's puppet in the first episode.
I still don't know what little girls are made of, but I very much appreciate whatever it took to make Andrea. Her loss is the real tragedy of this episode.
I think it was meant to be distracting as we meet Christine Chapel up close in her introductory episode and only one focused on her as we question her nature. Is is sugar and spice? In the end, we learn a better question was "what is Roger Corby made of?"
@tessmage_tessera Yeah, I have to say that it kind of goes against the theme of the episode.
@@fredklein3829 What are bad wigs made out of? Acrylic? I'd say a lot of that goes into making Nurse Chapel.
@@stuffyouotterlistento1461 Nurse Chapel is the best. Take your H8 elsewhere !
A very edible android
“They’re wearing red shirts. Should I be worried?” Yes. Yes, you should. 😉
Ruk is played by Ted Cassidy, the same actor who played Lurch in the original "The Addams Family." He later went on to do the voice over in the intro for "The Incredible Hulk" in the 1970's
6:26 That is a type 1 phaser. It's the smaller and more portable Starfleet phaser. The type 2 phaser mainly seen so far is just the type 1 phaser mounted on top of a larger unit with a battery pack that forms a pistol grip. It's an extremely well thought-out modular design unlike anything ever seen in a sci-fi show at the time.
Star Trek was so forward thinking. In addition to the phasers they also had the communicators, transporter, and successfully predicted flat screens, portable data devices, and solid state data storage, among others.
@@RealBLAlley There's a cool moment at the start of "The Cage" where Spock is looking through computer records on the screen and seems to to a quite modern swipe gesture to switch the frames, though he simply swipes the air above the console instead of swiping the screen.
WHAT IS THAT! That is the actor, Ted Cassidy. His best-known role is of Lurch in the '60's TV series 'The Addams Family'. He was usually behind lots of make-up or a complete costume playing aliens or creatures like Bigfoot.
"You rang?"
Cassidy also was the voice of "evil" Balok in "The Corbomite Maneuver" and the Gorn captain in "Arena".
Yes! Glad someone else mentioned that. Irl, He was a gentle giant from my understanding...love his acting and the characters he portrayed. R.I.P.
Sherry Jackson is in this episode. She was in the 1978 The Incredible Hulk TV episode Earthquakes Happen.
6'9" Ruk (Ted cassidy) was also Lurch in The Addams Family. A prolific actor he was seen everywhere in TV and movies in the late 60s and early 70s. Great character actor and nice guy who left us too soon.
Ted Cassidy was a fine actor with a tremendous basso profundo voice which could inspire fear--or could be very warm. He will always be known as Lurch the butler in the television series based on Charles Addams' strange little cartoons for the New Yorker. He had a left-field hit with "Wesley", which is as far away from horror as you can get. It's on UA-cam. His son, who looks like him, helps keep his memory alive.
In the early 60s he served as a radio announcer and was on the air in Dallas, Texas, November 22, 1963, yes, during THAT fateful tragedy! There's actually a clip here on UA-cam somewhere with Cassidy interviewing witnesses at the scene of Kennedy's assassination.
@@Redfern42 There is a compilation on UA-cam of Ted's commercial voiceover work.
3:24 Yes, she's still Nurse Christine Chapel here -- but your question's a good one because she returns as several characters throughout the franchise. In fact, already: she was "Number One" in the original series pilot, and you've also heard her as the voice of the ship's computer.
This human / machine question is explored a lot more in Trek going forward. And the cool thing is that it doesn't always come up with the same conclusions.
You are soooo right. 👍
@14:16 …. Yeah, that prop has been seen as such indeed. Never ceases to make me laugh and crack up when people see it for the first time.
11:50 "Im programmed to please you also.". Oh please. Even in the 60s they knew what they were sneaking in.
What makes someone human or alive is also a major question that is explored in reference to the android crew member, "Data," in Star Trek The Next Generation. You have something special to look forward to!
The concept of replacing parts and at what point does the replacement cease to be the actual original person is part of the Ship of Theseus paradox. Its a very interesting as a philosophical riddle. Great, deep reaction!
As chief engineer, Montgomery Scott is basically a mad genius who knows how to cobble pieces and parts together to make a functional system or system bypass or temporary fix to handle immediate needs. He is an engineer and mechanic and a bit of a genius. Hes extremely studious and knowledgeable in engineering, but also in mechanics in general, whether its warp drives, impulse drives, shields, electronics, transporters, and so on. He knows just about everything about just about everything stem-to-stern about his vessel and most other starfleet vessels, and non starfleet ships as well. Add to that, he is an excellent tactical commander and fierce warrior when needed. If a thing is broke, "Scotty" can fix it. He is known as a miracle worker among the bridge crew.
Thank you for watching this! Its one of my favourite episodes for the questions it poses, the Ship of Thesius problem, human consciousness, what we could lose if we mechanize or digitize ourselves. The "Stalactite" scene has since been memed into legend.
Also great that youve watched Ghost in the Shell 1995 and played Soma. Another recommended movie is Metropolis from the 1920s.
I’d love to see a reaction to Metropolis!
There's the .Fritz Lang version and the 2001 anime version from Japan
Yes, the "dildo" is supposed to be an ice cave stalagtite.
Hopefully someone will make a remake in 2026 of Metropolis, since that will be the 100th anniversary of the making of the original film.
Yes, Bunny. That's Christine Chapel, the same woman from The Naked Time, who told Spock she loves him.
The writer of this episode, Robert Bloch, was also a member of the original "Lovecraft Circle" around 90 years ago now. These were authors H.P. Lovecraft befriended, and/or whose careers he helped get started in some cases. He makes an oblique reference to HPL with his use of The Old Ones here, and also in a later episode Bloch scripted.
Oh that's cool!
Also enormous debt to 'Forbidden Planet', as does 'Catspaw' and the one with Flint and his daughter.
“It looks like they’re having the Jello salad over dog food.” 😆
One of the great first season episodes and best Kirk ending line: “Roger Corby was never here”. Well known story of Andrea (Sherry Jackson) walking through the studio cafeteria wearing that costume and causing a sensation.
I can believe that. She looks a bit like you, Miss Bunny tails.
As a young actress it's good marketing to strut around in that. I wonder if it got her new roles. Or a date with someone she had her eye on.
Uniform colors were adapted from the Navy's use of colors to show different functions on an aircraft carrier flight deck
specifically in the original series, blue represented medical and science divisions, gold denoted command positions, and red was worn by engineering, security, and communications divisions.
A chief engineer keeps the engines and power systems (and really anything mechanical) running properly and making repairs and/or modifications as needed, Montgomery Scott in particular is one of the best in Starfleet!
Can agree to that. After all, in other Trek shows, he proves your point many times over. Kirk couldn't have asked for a better engineer.
Thank you 😁
"Her" is the same actress that played "Number One" in the original pilot. She was also Mrs. Gene Roddenberry... The giant was also Lurch from the original "Addams Family."
This question is asked time and again in Star Trek. Along with freedom vs security.
May I respectfully suggest “City on the Edge of Forever”. Voted as one of the best “episodes” of a television show, ever. It’s an incredible work of television art.
One of their great plot twist episodes. Classic Red Shirt deaths, Kirk outsmarting the villain. I also loved that you caught the now famous stalactite joke. I never knew if they managed to slip that by the network censors or if it was just one of those unintentional accidents that we can all laugh at.
Also, in the spinoff show Star Trek TNG, there is an Android crewmember on board that Starship Enterprise named "Data" and a lot of the themes revolved around him/it are some of the questions you asked about such as whether or not an artificial lifeforms is capable of possessing sentience or a spirit of some kind and so forth.
I love your insights and reactions, especially the questions. You are the first female reactor to note the beauty of some of the actresses. Refreshing.
Star Trek certainly raises a lot of philosophical questions!
No wonder Ruk looks so familiar. He's Lurch from the Addams Family 🤔
I kinda miss you including your dad at the end of the TOS reactions. It was sweet, and it reminds me of how I miss my dad, too; he was the one who introduced me to Star Trek, also.
James Doohan had a silver cigarette case in his chest pack when he stormed the beach on D-Day. It saved his life as he was hit 8 times by machine gun fire, being hit once in the chest. He told the story on Howard Stern. He was also an Artillery Officer in WW2 and a highly trained actor.
he was also a crazy ass pilot.
He lost a finger on D-Day. IIRC it's on his right hand, which he was always careful to keep away from the camera.
Montgomery Scott, is to be from Aberdeen, Scotland.
The actor, James Dothan, was Canadian. He was in the Canadian Army, in WW2, went in on D-Day, received three wounds (one friendly fire, and German) -two fingers, partial shot off, and abdomen. There are a few times you can see his hand injury. James lived a good long life. Some of his ashes were sent into Space.
The idea for Chief Engineer being Scottish, many Scots made steam engines, telephone, bridge engineers, science. Scotty is vital to Trek, as Engineer, Officer in Command, mentor.
He also chose the character's name, naming Montgomery after his grandfather.
One of the reasons why StarTrek explores these questions, and in The Next Generation goes way further with the android Data on the bridge crew, is because Roddenberry was good friends with and took inspiration from Isaac Asimov. Asimov was one of the most prolific hard science fiction authors most famous for his pieces on robots. (Perhaps most notably the three laws of robotics that run through a huge chunk of all fiction and are increasingly used as a foundation for reality as well.)
Scotty is the chief engineer. He was a child prodigy became an engineer at 17. He’s also the operations officer which makes him third in command. He also has transporter responsibilities where he’s in charge of the transporter when Mr. Kyle isn’t there he also likes technical journals and technical manuals which later on he would write them, and other engineers, and Starfleet would learn from Scotty’s engineering background but that’s basically oh, he’s also one of four people who get into the ships armory, which is where all the weapons are Stored, and that’s really his responsibility is on board the enterprise to take care of the engines that makes the ship fly all over the cosmos and his transporter responsibility and the full operations of the shit. All the department heads would answer to him, and then he would brief Spock and then Spock would breathe Captain Kirk, so that’s how that goes , can’t wait for your next one. Keep up the good work and your dad would be very proud of you.
Sherry Jackson's outfit, designed by William Ware Theiss, remains one of the most memorable costumes in the entire Star Trek series. Ms. Jackson had played Danny Thomas' daughter Terry in "Make Room For Daddy". She returned for one episode in the sequel, "Make Room For Granddaddy".
To be fair, a lot of the reason that outfit was so memorable has to do with who was wearing it...
@@paintedjaguar I don't disagree with THAT.
Chapel is played by majel Barrett, same actress that played number one in the first pilot.
On screen never mentioned, but there was a novel that had them as sisters.
The current series, streaming “Strange New Worlds” that follows Captain Chris’ Pike, and crew of the Enterprise,…there has been a hint of Corby, that sets up this episode. (Like, a decade before)
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@15:41 you see one of the first examples of... Captain Kirk's... way with women... which he is renowned for in popular culture LOL
"Teach me how to LOVE, captain..." LOL
She was "Number One" in the original pilot, and is also the voice of the Enterprise Computer
Ruk was played by Ted Cassidy, who played different characters in three different ST episodes, but he was best known for playing Lurch in the original Addams Family tv series.
"I am now programmed to please you also."
"Oh. Do tell."
"It's a giant dildo!"
You have to love where Bunny's mind is at.😂
Bunny, if you end up watching The Next Generation episodes too, you'll probably enjoy the episode The Measure of a Man, in which a hearing is held to determine whether or not Data, the android should be considered human, and thus have all the rights of any other Star Fleet officer. It poses many of the same questions as this episode. What does it mean to be human? What is humanity? It's one of my favorite episodes.
22:41 "Are they still the same if they replace everything?"
This is an ancient paradox, discussed thoroughly in the Wikipedia article "Ship of Theseus". It is typical of TOS to raise a philosophical question: it takes a puzzle from the ancient past and places it in the speculative future. 🙂
Ted Cassidy's costume was designed to make him look bulkier and more muscular because Cassidy, though very tall, had a rather slight build.
14:23 Ruk: "Is that a stalactite? Or are you just glad to see me?"
Assault with a cocrete dildo.
You are not the first to notice the suggestive “rock” held by Kirk 😉 or, how seductive Andrea appears. ☺️ Some of Trek, is not for kids, yet teens and adults “notice”.
The shot showing the activation of the phaser, is extremely brief - but you can see what looks like Korby’s finger or thumb move. His finger or thumb moved either directly onto the trigger, or onto Andrea’s finger, which was on the trigger.
It’s clear that the creators’ intent were to show that the Korby android made a decision to wipe out both himself and Andrea.
Why did the Korby android decide this? The episode never tells us. The Korby android could have simply been so horrified at the thought that ‘Andrea’ was gaining emotions - becoming some sort of in-between thing that was neither human nor programmable robot - that he made a decision to destroy it even though he’d die too.
Alternately, the Korby android - who had thought and believed that he was a perfect transfer of Korby’s consciousness into an android body - had been suddenly forced by Kirk and Chapel, into the realization that, at the very least, that was not what happened:
Either, that only a crude approximation of Korby survived, or that the original Korby’s •ambition to help humanity• had survived, but that the original Korby’s judgement and humanity had not. Once the Korby android had come around to Kirk’s point of view - “I’m not Korby, like I thought I was; I’m some kind of inhuman monster, and I wasn’t far from spreading more android-monsters across the galaxy! No way - this ends now!” Korby self-terminated to end the threat to humanity that he now realized he had become.
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Don't know if you've seen 'The Fly' (1986), but I'm reminded of it now. Similar questions occur to viewers seeing that film: at what point does the protagonist's humanity disappear?
One of Scotty’s most important duties: He drinks all the whisky.
Excellent reaction video ! Fun to see someone watch this episode who has never seen it before. Keep up the good work 🙂
It's refreshing to see a reactor who is genuinely invested in the material. Immediately figuring out why Kirk repeated the phrase during the programming is a perfect example. Another is the philosophical examination afterward, which is what Star Trek used to be about before they made it about bad science, virtue signalling, f-bombs, and ripped out eyeballs.
Jello cubes on a bed of dog food is a specialty of mine.
Have you seen Alita, Battle Angel? Sherry Jackson played the android Andrea when she was 24. She's now 81. Her outfit showing side cleavage got her a movie role when she walked into the commissary wearing it. Blake Edwards got her signed up that day.
Smart career move.
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The question you raised about whether someone would still be human if they transfer their awareness to an android body is a great one. My conclusion is that, "yes" the android would be a human but would NOT be the SAME human. The Android would be a humanized copy, a genuine human but still only a copy of the original one, the original having died. It's similar with twins. Each is identical, yet a completely different human.
The woman playing Christine was Gene Roddenberry’s wife
Later she was yes. But at that time she was his mistress. He was married to someone else
Hey! It's Lurch!
I've seen this episode before and didn't notice the phallic rock! Your reaction to it was hilarious!
Another interesting reaction! There's a bit of inconsistency in this episode but in response to your question, I think Kirk's phaser WAS set to stun when he fired at android Dr Brown (following his signature roll). Normally the stun setting renders the target unconscious by shocking the nervous system with a nonlethal amount of energy. Since the target happened to be an android/robot instead of organic, the energy probably caused something to short out or overload, probably a battery or capacitor, at that caused the visble damage.
Remember when phasers are set to kill, the target is completely disintegrated, which didn't occur when Kirk shot Brown. Also, in situations which aren't already known to be life-threatening, Starfleet personnel don;t keep their weapons set to kill. By default going into an unknown situation, they normally have their weapons set to stun.
On the topic of consciousness and what constitutes a human, I recommend the movie Ex Machina (2014). That might be a good one to react to, if you haven't already watched it.
Really like how you give context for your thoughts using relatable media you've consumed over the years. I'm always intrigued to understand why people think the way they do, how they acquired their moral compass, what incidents triggered their fears, what inspired their hopes and dreams. The more we as a people understand each other, the less likely we are to engage in the type of conflict we're seeing around the world today.
gotta love the plot twist that korby was an android all along. nurse chapel got a few good story lines during the series. the actress,majel barrett, came back as a different character in star trek the next generation as well as the voice of the enterprise D's computer.
I'm really enjoying rewatching these TOS episodes with you! Its been a minute, but there are so many great eps in this show, it was so ahead of its time. Thank you and happy watching!
Totally agree!
This is a very interesting episode. It delves into the concept of living beings losing their humanity when they are incorporated into a mechanized form of their own likeness. It also shows opposite side of the dilemma when you create humanoid servants that are so perfected that they develop their own sense of feeling and self pride to the point where they eventually rebel against their own imperfect creators. This concept will be used in several future sci-fi movies like 2001:A Space Odyssey, Collosis The Forbin Project and The Terminator. No spoilers but future episodes of TOS will again address this subject of man vs machine with the dreaded warning: Be careful what you create.
Unfortunately, humans seem to have no capacity to be careful of what they create. If it's possible someone will create it--either to satisfy their own ego, or for monetary reward.
BunnyTales - this is not the First time Kirk & other men have gone Shirtless , but this was one way for getting Around the TV censors , lol.
The human into android f o r immortality was attempted in "Westworld" season 2 as well. Speaking of which, I highly recommend you do reaction videos to the "Westworld" series .
You're very quick ... you determine what certain scenes will lead to instantly, it is impressive and fun to watch.
I also noticed long ago that the stalactite looked very phallic, so I knew you would catch that. Ruk was played by Ted Cassidy, the original Lurch on The Addams Family.
That is Christine Chapel, played by Majel Barrett (later Majel Barrett Roddenberry). She's just being lit differently. Incidentally, she has the record for greatest number of appearances of any actor in the Star Trek franchise, appearing in more than 250 episodes and 7 movies (as five different characters!)
Andrea's costume is famous as an example of Trek costume designer William Ware's Theiss theory of what makes an outfit sexy: regardless of how much skin it actually shows, the sexiest outfit is the one that looks like it's *about* to show something it shouldn't, yet never does. I have a copy of it for my captain in Star Trek Online lol
"He wanted to mix too much of the human and the machine. He wanted the best of both worlds." eyeballs_emoji
Nurse Chapel was played by Majel Barret......Rodenberry. she had dark hair and played Number One in the original pilot episode. She was also the ship computer voice and made appearances in other Star Trek series, as well as an episode of Babylon 5. Not laser. Phaser.
Scotty was Chief engineer. In charge of engines, ship’s power and general repairs. Usually 3rd in command. His rank is Lt. Commander.
2245 - THE SHIP OF THESEUS - A question was raised by ancient philosophers: After several hundreds of years of maintenance, if each individual piece of the Ship of Theseus was replaced, one after the other, was it still the same ship?
This paradox was made famous by the BC tv comedy series 'Only Fools and Horses' where 'Trigger', an old friend of lead character, Del Boy Trotter, and local road sweeper, discussed the many times his sweeping brush' has had both its head and handle replaced numerous times over the years.
Another great reaction, bunnytailsREACTS.
To answer your question, yes, Christine was a brunette, her natural hair color in a previous episode you reacted to, The Menagerie. She played Number 1.
Fun fact, the actress later married the writer of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry.
Ghost in the Shell, awesome stuff! I used to have a bootleg VHS! 🤣 Another insightful reaction, thank you! And R.I.P. to your Dad!
Majel Barrett (as "M. Leigh Hudec") was a brunette as "Number One" in "The Cage".
Oh the robot episode this is one of the best episodes. 😀 The tall guy was Ted Cassidy the actor that played Lurch in the Addams Family television series. He also voiced an alien in another episode of Star Trek TOS, The Corbonite maneuver.
Congratulations! You are an official Trekkie. As soon as you made the observation concerning that stalactite's appearance...
Yup, we've seen this issue come up in Blade Runner too.
The androids in this episode did have emotions, though maybe there was some form of disconnect, like with OpenAI scripting and AI art solutions, where knowledge is mimicked but not really possessed. Ruk had anger, and Andrea had some sense of love or unrequited love, though possibly they were imitating this and not actually feeling it. Or, perhaps they were growing more emotional the longer their neural nets functioned, a bit like in Blade Runner? It's a little unclear. I think the message given toward the end was that there was no fixing the disconnect, and this imperfection in the programming was what inspired the various incidents of violence. In a way, maybe the android emotions were less controllable than those of the humans. In AI, they might be called "hallucinations."
"Andrea," BTW, means woman, with "Ander" meaning man. Of course, this is the root of "android."
FWIW, some think there were Lovecraft references in the episode, such as "the Old Ones," the underground city, and the trapezoidal doors. Maybe Ruk's strange appearance was also due to Lovecraft influence? IDK.
also in 14:40 we may consider that influenced Blade Runner final scene
The tall android is from the Addams Family as well as the voice of the dummy in the Corbomite Maneuver and later the voice of the Gorn.
Mr. Scott is the Chief Engineer onboard. In most eras each ship will have 1 Chief Engineer in charge of the engineering department. Like other dept. heads, they attend important briefings and are pretty high in the chain of command. They're stationed in Main Engineering and command a big crew of technicians. Engineering is under the Operations division, hence the red shirts. Aside from being a skilled manager, the Chief Engineer is also expected to be the best mechanical problem-solver onboard - often getting hands-on with tricky repair work. Scotty happens to be 3rd in command, after Kirk & Spock, but not every Chief Engineer holds that place in the chain of command. Scotty also often runs the transporter, though that seems to just be to get a recognizable character in the scene (plenty of other people can operate it). I think Deep Space 9 is the only show to have a Chief Engineer who's not an officer, but instead a lower ranking (but brilliant) workman.
Your reaction to the giant stone dildo, or "The Captain's Log"(tm) was marvelous.
It's been a source of Trekkie humor for a very long time.
I wonder how no one during production recognized what it looked like.
Or perhaps they did...
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All I saw was the thumbnail and I knew exactly what scene you were laughing at.
As Chief Engineer, Scotty works miracles.
1:27 Inferred from Enterprise, TNG and DS9 this era of Star Trek is the Age of Exploration. In Enterprise, the NX-01 Enterprise mostly went to places where other thriving and more powerful civilizations already exist. The local area is crowded. Everything is new to the Terrans, but there is not really a final frontier to go to. In TOS, the frontier is wide open as the new ships like the NCC1701 Enterprise travel beyond that bubble of civs. 85+ years later TNG and DS9 imply the former "frontier" is closed, due to the efforts of the ships in the TOS doing all the mapping and exploring. There are still pre-FTL civs and dead wonders, but are fewer unknown in civilized territory.
Another enjoyable reaction! It's fun to see how you anticipate things, and react based on whether or not they come to be in each episode. And especially how you react to the styrofoam scenery.
Nurse Chapel was played by Majel Barrett, who was one of Gene Roddenberry's mistresses until he divorced his wife and married Majel. She appeared as Nurse Chapel in The Naked Time, and she was also Pike's first officer in The Cage (thus the memory of the dark hair). She also played a third, almost ubiquitous, character in the series, including episodes you've already seen; it will be interesting to see if you spot this.
Ted Cassidy played Ruk, but he's more famous as Lurch in the 1960's TV series The Addams Family where he played two characters. Did you notice that his voice also bears a striking resemblance to that of a menacing character in The Corbomite Maneuver?
He was also an accomplished organist, and he was a DJ for a radio station in Dallas. He was present when JFK was killed, and he did some of the first media interviews in the aftermath.
In this episode, they also brought back one of the original phaser pistols from The Cage. It was the one that Andrea used.
Scotty is the ship's chief engineer and third in command. He's the reason that nothing ever breaks on the Enterprise (as quoted by Ron Moore, who wrote several episodes of the Next Generation and was responsible of the re-imagining of Battlestar Galactica in the early 2000's). We've already seen Scotty operate the transporter, replace the control boards on the bridge with unrelated ones salvaged from a mining operation, and implode the engines to initiate time travel. And he was the A/V guy for the wedding last week. I'm sure he also assigns the guy who shovels coal into his bonny bairns.
James Doohan, who played Scotty, was a Canadian war veteran. He served in the infantry, artillery, and as pilot in the air force. On D-Day, he lost a finger during combat. He was good at hiding it, but occasionally you can see it onscreen. You don't see it when he operates the transporter because a stunt double did the hand shot. He was also very personable and gracious when I met him briefly at my first convention, a combined Star Trek and Doctor Who fan event.
Here are some thought experiments:
You have Granddad's axe. He's had it for many years. Over time, he replaced the head and the handle many times, and yet it's still Granddad's axe. Then he dies, and over time, you've replaced the head twice and the handle thrice. Yet it's still Granddad's axe. Or is it?
People think of the word "protect" as meaning to safeguard, preserve, shield, defend, shelter, secure, and any number of noble-sounding things. Protect the species. Protect the habitat. Protect the economy. Protect our homes. Protect the children. Protect the religion. Protect ourselves. And yet, we come into conflict over these things. What are we willing to destroy to keep what we have? And who are we willing to kill for the right to live?
Ruk said words to the effect of: The old ones grew fearful and began turning us off, so we destroyed them. Ruk and his kind may be more human than we give them credit for.
all of that, and you seem to have missed that Majel Barrett also was the computer voice for almost all the tv series and movies including the first rebooted movie right before she passed.
@@itubeutubewealltube1 That sounds a lot like "a third, almost ubiquitous, character in the series" but I was kind of hoping Bunny would discover that for herself.
Loved your reference to the joke reel.
Good to see the trek necklace. Your dad would be proud.
There are two films that explore this theme you have discussed. "Bicentennial Man" with Robin Williams and "A.I. Artificial Intelligence" directed by Steven Spielberg. I think you will enjoy them, Bunny Tails.
A.I. is one of the saddest movies I've ever seen.
@@segoon2000 Still an amazing film, though and Bicentennial Man had humor. Both were thought-provoking.
3:22 Yes, you should be very worried. This is kind of the canonical "you don't want to be a redshirt on a landing party" episode.
The episode you saw "Nurse Chappel" in was The Cage (the pilot episode), where she was a brunette, and, a completely different Character (first office). She was also the wife of Star Trek creator Gene Roddenberry (who stopped dating Nichelle Nicols) to start dating Majel Barrett.
Gene did have an affair or fling with Nichelle, but it was years before he got involved with MB. GR was married to someone else when he was dating MB.
Gene was married to another woman, but had several girlfriends on the side. During the filming of the series, Majel Barrett was a current girlfriend, and was still a "friend with benefits" with Nichols. Gene and Majel married after the series was cancelled.
Majel wore a blond wig. The studio execs apparently didn't recognize her from the first pilot.
@@timmooney7528That's conflicting with other accounts. I read that she bleached her hair, and executives did recognize her. That's 100% opposite.
@@timmooney7528 Nichols and Roddenberry were *not* "involved" during TOS, although he still fancied her.
NBC knew who Majel was, they may not have known it was her immediately, but within a day or two they knew who she was.
You should listen to, *Inside Star Trek: The Real Story: Solow, Herbert F., Justman, Robert H.* and it will clear up a lot of your misconceptions.
The soul cannot be duplicated.
And if you believe, as many of us do, that we are souls... who just happen to be living inside of bodies for a while... the issue becomes all the more fascinating.
This topic is at the core of much of the best speculative fiction out there. Everything from this episode to "Robocop," ultimately, are dealing with the same issue. What makes us... US? What, ultimately, makes me... ME?
It's literally the most important existential question any fiction can ever address. The trick is trying to find new and entertaining ways to do so.
Every time i hear that title used I think of Van Halen's Poundcake music video opener.
Why does it bother her when she uses the name Roger? Because Chapel knows he's been Rogering her that's why. DUHH!
"mmmoooohh, do tell!" 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lots of deep questions with this episode… but then there’s that one dress Sherry Jackson (Andrea) wears and I forget what we’re talk8 g about… oh and Lurch of course! Great stuff.
Nurse Chappelle is Star Trek creater Gene Roddenberry's real wife and was the original #1 in the Star Trek series pilot.
At the time, Roddenberry had a different wife, Majel Barrett was his girlfriend.
She also voices the ship’s computer in many Star Trek shows well into the 1990’s.
On Star Trek show The Next Generation she played Laxwana Troi the mother of character Counselor Deana Troi.
Roddenberry was discharging his phazer all over the place@@emilsitka9537
They are made of bunny pellets and carrots. You are what you eat.
Scotty keeps the ship going. Most of his lines are: I CANNOH KEEP HER GOING CAPPIN’!
I was on an aircraft carrier Nimitz for 5 years of 8 in the navy. The chief Engineer of the ship ran the nuclear power engineering spaces deep inside the ship. And he had the rank of Captain… just like the commanding officer and executive officer of the ship. Funny coincidence- the ship had its own dentist who was also a Navy Captain! 😅 he was a very old man too. It’s like Dear Lord! This man is both a doctor and a high ranking naval officer… kind of like Bones on Star Trek 🤔
"Something sinister's afoot!" :) I love the way you're totally open about what you're thinking. You remind me of one other reactor I like, who is not averse to commenting on dreamy-looking men AND beautiful women, even though she is one herself. Your unguarded glibness is very appealing and honest. About that, yes, Andrea is SO pretty. Every time I watch this episode, I can't take my eyes off her. Sherry Jackson is 81, and is still a very nice-looking woman.
Ted Cassidy (Ruk) is one of the gems of old-time TV. Don't know if you've ever heard of "The Addams Family," the original TV show I watched as a kid. People have seen the movie, but many did not experience the TV show. Cassidy was hilarious as the butler, Lurch. His famous line, "You rang?," which he said every time Gomez would summon him via a bell pull, always made me laugh, as he delivered it in his lower-than-possible voice. Originally intended as a mute character, Cassidy ad libbed the line, cracking up the whole crew, so they started giving him lines. One other thing he would do is shake his head and moan with disapproval when he anticipated something sinister afoot. He was 6'9".
Perhaps the easiest way to think about Lieutenant Commander Montgomery Scott's role on Enterprise, as Chief Engineer (a department head role), is that he's in charge of the ship itself. Maintaining it, repairing it, improving it.
Lieutenant Commander Leonard Horatio McCoy, as Chief Medical Officer (a department head role, again), is responsible for the same...maintaining, repairing, and improving... but the crew, not the ship.
Everyone else aboard is there to do something "looking outwards," but those two departments are primarily inward-facing.
"Operations" (gold shirts) run the ship and it's functions.
"Science" (under as of now still "Lieutenant Commander" Spock, who gets promoted to full Commander in season 2) focuses primarily on "looking outwards." On a ship whose primary mission is exploration, this is arguably the most important role, but in most other ships, "science" would be lower in the ranking.
Finally, there's "Security." These guys are essentially a blend between "military police" and "the marines." They provide aboard-ship security, but also provide armed escort for VIPs in hostile territory. It's that second role that gets so many of them killed.
Security and Engineering both wear Red. So, oddly, does Uhura, who is part of "operations" and thus really should wear gold. Similarly, the Captain's yeoman should also wear gold.
And science and medical both wear blue.
When the movies started, the colors were revisited... each subgroup getting it's own color, plus adding a separate one for "command"... and there were no longer any exceptions.
In the films:
Command - White
Operations - Gold
Engineering - Red
Science - Blue
Medical - Green
Security - Purple
In TMP, thus is mainly on the circles behind the chest emblem, on the sleeve rank tabs on long sleeve versions, and the shoulder rank epaulettes on short sleeve versions.
For all the subsequent films, this same color scheme was used, but on the turtleneck undershirts, and various trim elements on outer garments (dress jackets, field jackets, etc.)
I guess they just like the women in red :D
Here, Kirk demonstrates his unique superpower: the ability to confuse a computer or elicit emotional responses from androids and similar constructs.
Andrea is very pretty. I'm sure I had confused feelings seeing her that first time on my old family tv.
The... detachable stalactite... has been memed to death because everybody saw what you did, and giggled at the sight of Kirk holding it.
Scotty and the folks under him generally have to keep the ship running. Power comes from one place (the engine), but needs to be managed and distributed according to the ships' needs. An exaggerated example: weapons and shields can be fed extra power to enhance them, but there's a point where feeding them MOAR POWAH becomes useless (might cause an overload) and bad for other operations on the ship (less power to internal gravity, navigation, lighting, toilets...). Engineering also fabricates parts and tools that the ship or the crew may need. There's a station on the bridge where Scotty can monitor engineering remotely, but you'll find him more often in front of his master console in engineering, where the action really is.
Loved this reaction. As a kid, I never "saw" the giant male appendage. The actress that played Andrea is one of my favorites from ALL the series.
Interestingly in the recent Star Trek series "Picard", there is a twist of this plot basically in season 2, continues to season 3. Though it is not directly referenced.
The actor playing giant android Ruk, he was very interesting person. Wish he would have been in more shows/movies. Had a great voice.