great video, I too went to purchase one of these awnings a five years back, went to my authorised dealer and he talked me out of buying this brand of awning because of the companies poor service record. He talked me into putting the extra money into buying the awning this one was copied off, the Ostridge Wing (made in South Africa). I am very happy with this brand of awning, it has taken a lot of abuse over the years and it is a little faded but has not sagged or lost any of it's structural integrity.
I just bought one for my 200. After sitting on it for ages. I watch your videos, Nathan and if it's good enough for you it's good enough for me. Great review
Nathan, I counted 24 bolts in the Kaon delivery. Is there 12 in the awning bag or do I need to buy more? I've got someone fitting it so hope everything I need to mount it is there
@@bigfishfishing-111 Its been a while since I had to install this. I have a feeling that the 4 mounting bolts for the awning itself may be with the awning? I hope thats' the case 👍
They include the parts for the furthest arm so that it can accept the ball from the extension poles that they sell. I leave the pole fully extended & velcro strap it to the arm so that you can store it folded up together.
Great review. I’m a big fan of the 270deg awnings. I purchase a Kings 270 2 years ago for around $430. It takes 2 people @ 1 min to setup. Has 4 poles & 8 guide ropes. Never let me down 👍👍 I don’t camp under it. I only set up for picnics etc ie longer than 1 hour 😂
I have the same awning on my 200 series. My wife was skeptical but is a convert as well. It gives great shelter, is sturdy and well built, and is indeed quick and easy to set up and pack up. I have mine mounted slightly further forward on the car so the thin bar doesn’t interfere with the rear door spoiler and I have made a bracket mounted on the roof rack permanently to support that arm without a leg. The only real disadvantage is the height it adds to the car making it very difficult to find an undercover car park it can fit in.
Awesome! They sure are great units and are super handy on a hot sunny day. Your setup sounds great, it's best when it suits exactly how you want to use the unit. Yes, the weight and extra height can be somewhat limiting sometimes.
Good video Nathan. I have had my 30 Second Awning for a bit over 2 years, having bought it off Gumtree for about half the normal price. The challenge I saw at the time were the flimsy roofrack attachments went much chop, so I paid a friend to weld me up some substantial stainless steel legs, which do the same as your KAON brackets, except that mine are probably stronger and for me give me great piece of mind. That all aside I'll take your advice on the additional pole to add support on the first arm. Other than that as you said the unit ticks all the boxes. I also have a couple of panels, where one is a tent as well but the quality of it isn't so great. Good product indeed 👍
Great to hear mate! That certainly are a great value for money product and are super handy when on the road in hot sunny conditions. Yes, I hear you in regards to the brackets, the Kaon are a great out of the box option, but a custom set sure sounds like a strong solution too!
I love my 30 second awning mate. My 4th pole is the same as the others but I mounted the spare mount for it on there. Cant fold it up though so I pull it out and carry it like you do so pretty much the same result. Great review. Cheers Steve
Great overall review mate as usual. The one thing that all reviews of free-standing 270 awnings neglect is that you don't always have the luxury of level ground. Yes, you can still lower the poles to correct height, but then the walls are a PIA, because you end up with gaps everywhere underneath. Furthermore, pooling is a major issue without being able to adjust each arm independently of ground level. No fun waking up in the middle of the night to a swimming pool above your head...I agree, these are great for lunch stops, but not great for overnight set-up. Frankly, they lose all the benefits of quicker set-up by the time you find level land and have to peg down anyway. Have had an Alucab, which exhibited all of these issues, and yes, the 34s one alleviates some (esp. the trapezoidal walls), but the only sure fire way to overcome all is a Rhino Rack Batwing. They do have other "quality" issues though so they're not perfect...
For sure, these are considerations that need to be taken into account but realistically you're probably not going to setup walls with the intention to create a sealed room. I agree though, all of these products have their own set of pro's and con's and its a matter of finding a compromise to best suit your own setup 👍
Great presentation Nathan, looks quality awning the weight is only issue with my LC200 I need to watch with a towball weight of 260kg.That last Kimberley trip you would have struggled without that awning. Off the subject have you seen the Donaldson PowerCore airbox/ filter , Project 200 feature it looks very promising .
Yes for sure, its a heavy product given that it only provides shade 😆 Not an option for all setups who may be heavy already. Yes mate, will be looking at a new option now with my new turbos!
I'd look at the OCAM 270, it has all the features but appears to have more and cheaper. Has all legs built in, has a wall that can turn the whole thing into a single room.
Nice one Nathan just full of good advise I think bang for buck it's probably the best . As you said it's easy to spend $2500 ... $3000 for one . Have you looked at the gap between the tailgate and the awning for a answer it didn't it cause an issue .. :)
For sure, my comparison always takes in consideration value for money. I think this awning has got to be one of the best value for money products. Quality always costs a little money, but you get a lot of helpful features with it too 👍
Regarding it fouling on your rear spoiler, would it be possible to mount it slightly further forward? I have a similar problem on my Disco 4 and Rhino Batwing where it fouls just slightly.
What awning do I need for my 200 series ? That was something I struggled with because I use to think we'd use it all the time while we were on the road travelling Oz full time with our van. I ended up going for the ARB side awning and I have to say, we rarely use it. In fact, I was thinking of selling it at one stage but decided not too. Not sure if I would use a 270 degree awning more, but the idea of it does appeal to me. Great review again and what's with the longer growth on your face ! ??
Yes, it all comes down to personal circumstances I guess. When I did the Pilbara trip without a trailer it was used almost every day. If you're towing a van and living from that, then maybe its something that's not required. The ARB is probably better in your circumstances with your full time. I'm still loving the coverage and ease of setup from this product though 👍 Finally finished work so the beard is coming out! 😆
Great review thank you. I have a question. If you where to put a rooftop tent on the platform rack what or how would you then mount the awning. Ie the mounts you have wouldn't work..
Yes, this is something that you would have to consider. Depends on the RTT. If you had a hard shell design, they often come with awning mounting locations. Folding 'soft' shell designs, well another design would have to be implemented.
I've been looking to get something like this for a while and this has a lot cool features that moves it right to the top of my list. I wonder if it would work with those rooftop tents? Looks possible.
Hey Andrew, the other brackets would definitely be viable too. I just don't have experience with them to determine whether they would be high enough to clear that rear tailgate. The unit also comes with its own brackets, but they didn't fill me confidence.
@@XploringOz no worries i think the kaon brackets are a great plan. Just curious to find out how high the top edege is from the rhino platform when all packed up . Just so we can see if it fits under garage door space.
Do you have an old model? I can put the ball joint pole in the corner where the strap is located. I don’t need a different brand pole like you have. Hmm.
Yes, this is the same as my one. The after market telescopic pole is only for the far edge where the ball joint isn't an option. The other arms have this and this is what I've used for the other supports.
I have an Ostrich Wing, these are a rip off of that design. My Ostrich Wing will withstand winds up to about the point my hat blows off without putting poles down or adding guy ropes.
@@ajs4x482 😂😂 ur comparing ut 1700 dollar awning to 1000 one. If it comes with a pole as do both the 30 and osterich it aint free standing cause at some point they want u to use the legs as its provided with the awning.
@@krump743 the 30 second awning is near enough it doesn’t matter an EXACT copy of the Ostrich Wing. I was the first person on Australia to own one of these and with over 10 years experience and having set it up over a thousand times I can only recall one time I needed to put the pole down and add guy ropes, we were camped on a hilltop with a very strong gully wind. 99.9% of the time they can be free standing. Your claim of needing poles in a slight wind is simply not true.
@@ajs4x482 i dare them to not sell it with a support leg, they wont, cause its not up to the task of being self supporting. Hell even kings make a "free standing" awning. Just cause they say it is, doesnt make it so. Thats just market gimmick so the brands dont get left behind.
@@krump743 OK, despite the fact that I have more experience with this awning than anyone else in Australia, you obviously know more than me. Thanks for setting me straight and letting me know I’ve been doing wrong for the last 10+ years, I will be sure to not use it free standing ever again as you are obviously the guru on these things.
It’s a pity that these are just a blatant rip off of the Ostrich wing, the people that produce these are little more than thieves. Having said that, I was the very first person in Australia to get an Ostrich wing having imported it directly from South Africa and it has been awesome, which is why the people producing these stole the design.
@@hiluxjase6665 this is an exact copy of another product, if someone designed an excellent chair or sleeping bag and someone else copied it exactly, then yes I would consider them thieves.
great video, I too went to purchase one of these awnings a five years back, went to my authorised dealer and he talked me out of buying this brand of awning because of the companies poor service record. He talked me into putting the extra money into buying the awning this one was copied off, the Ostridge Wing (made in South Africa). I am very happy with this brand of awning, it has taken a lot of abuse over the years and it is a little faded but has not sagged or lost any of it's structural integrity.
I just bought one for my 200. After sitting on it for ages.
I watch your videos, Nathan and if it's good enough for you it's good enough for me.
Great review
Awesome mate, glad to hear it!
I still love this awning, it has worked exactly as I'd hoped and used many, many times on our big lap 👍
Nathan, I counted 24 bolts in the Kaon delivery. Is there 12 in the awning bag or do I need to buy more?
I've got someone fitting it so hope everything I need to mount it is there
@@bigfishfishing-111 Its been a while since I had to install this. I have a feeling that the 4 mounting bolts for the awning itself may be with the awning? I hope thats' the case 👍
They include the parts for the furthest arm so that it can accept the ball from the extension poles that they sell. I leave the pole fully extended & velcro strap it to the arm so that you can store it folded up together.
Great review. I’m a big fan of the 270deg awnings. I purchase a Kings 270 2 years ago for around $430. It takes 2 people @ 1 min to setup. Has 4 poles & 8 guide ropes. Never let me down 👍👍
I don’t camp under it. I only set up for picnics etc ie longer than 1 hour 😂
Great product! Super helpful when in hot and sunny conditions. Heaps of coverage too 👍
That was a really good edit mate! really enjoyed it and the review was top notch too well done!
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it 👍
I have the same awning on my 200 series. My wife was skeptical but is a convert as well. It gives great shelter, is sturdy and well built, and is indeed quick and easy to set up and pack up. I have mine mounted slightly further forward on the car so the thin bar doesn’t interfere with the rear door spoiler and I have made a bracket mounted on the roof rack permanently to support that arm without a leg. The only real disadvantage is the height it adds to the car making it very difficult to find an undercover car park it can fit in.
Awesome! They sure are great units and are super handy on a hot sunny day. Your setup sounds great, it's best when it suits exactly how you want to use the unit.
Yes, the weight and extra height can be somewhat limiting sometimes.
Good video Nathan. I have had my 30 Second Awning for a bit over 2 years, having bought it off Gumtree for about half the normal price. The challenge I saw at the time were the flimsy roofrack attachments went much chop, so I paid a friend to weld me up some substantial stainless steel legs, which do the same as your KAON brackets, except that mine are probably stronger and for me give me great piece of mind. That all aside I'll take your advice on the additional pole to add support on the first arm. Other than that as you said the unit ticks all the boxes. I also have a couple of panels, where one is a tent as well but the quality of it isn't so great. Good product indeed 👍
Great to hear mate! That certainly are a great value for money product and are super handy when on the road in hot sunny conditions.
Yes, I hear you in regards to the brackets, the Kaon are a great out of the box option, but a custom set sure sounds like a strong solution too!
I love my 30 second awning mate. My 4th pole is the same as the others but I mounted the spare mount for it on there. Cant fold it up though so I pull it out and carry it like you do so pretty much the same result. Great review. Cheers Steve
Good to hear! They are great units and great value for money! I'm loving the coverage and the ease of setup 👍
Great overall review mate as usual. The one thing that all reviews of free-standing 270 awnings neglect is that you don't always have the luxury of level ground. Yes, you can still lower the poles to correct height, but then the walls are a PIA, because you end up with gaps everywhere underneath. Furthermore, pooling is a major issue without being able to adjust each arm independently of ground level. No fun waking up in the middle of the night to a swimming pool above your head...I agree, these are great for lunch stops, but not great for overnight set-up. Frankly, they lose all the benefits of quicker set-up by the time you find level land and have to peg down anyway. Have had an Alucab, which exhibited all of these issues, and yes, the 34s one alleviates some (esp. the trapezoidal walls), but the only sure fire way to overcome all is a Rhino Rack Batwing. They do have other "quality" issues though so they're not perfect...
For sure, these are considerations that need to be taken into account but realistically you're probably not going to setup walls with the intention to create a sealed room.
I agree though, all of these products have their own set of pro's and con's and its a matter of finding a compromise to best suit your own setup 👍
Great presentation Nathan, looks quality awning the weight is only issue with my LC200 I need to watch with a towball weight of 260kg.That last Kimberley trip you would have struggled without that awning.
Off the subject have you seen the Donaldson PowerCore airbox/ filter , Project 200 feature it looks very promising .
Yes for sure, its a heavy product given that it only provides shade 😆 Not an option for all setups who may be heavy already.
Yes mate, will be looking at a new option now with my new turbos!
Good video, it was on my list when I purchased the Quickpitch Weathershade awning. Slightly heavier and extra 3m2 coverage. 👍🏻
Excellent review. I am considering such an awning for a high-roofed van.
Thanks mate. They are a great option 👍
Excellent review. Thank you!
Thanks mate 👍
I'd look at the OCAM 270, it has all the features but appears to have more and cheaper. Has all legs built in, has a wall that can turn the whole thing into a single room.
Hmm interesting. Maybe something to look at in the future it this one ever causes me dramas 👍
Cherrs
'When the wind picks up you may have a 12m2 awning that may want to identify as a kite' LMAO!
Haha, I was wondering whether someone would comment on this line haha 😆
Cheers 👍
Great review mate, definitely added to my list of potentials
Cheers mate, hopefully this can help you decide 👍
Nice one Nathan just full of good advise
I think bang for buck it's probably the best . As you said it's easy to spend $2500 ... $3000 for one . Have you looked at the gap between the tailgate and the awning for a answer it didn't it cause an issue .. :)
For sure, my comparison always takes in consideration value for money. I think this awning has got to be one of the best value for money products. Quality always costs a little money, but you get a lot of helpful features with it too 👍
Trying to decide between this and the kings. Any things I should take into consideration?
Regarding it fouling on your rear spoiler, would it be possible to mount it slightly further forward? I have a similar problem on my Disco 4 and Rhino Batwing where it fouls just slightly.
What awning do I need for my 200 series ? That was something I struggled with because I use to think we'd use it all the time while we were on the road travelling Oz full time with our van. I ended up going for the ARB side awning and I have to say, we rarely use it. In fact, I was thinking of selling it at one stage but decided not too. Not sure if I would use a 270 degree awning more, but the idea of it does appeal to me. Great review again and what's with the longer growth on your face ! ??
U would use a 270 far more, cause its quick to set up. U can buy a 180 degree awning
Yes, it all comes down to personal circumstances I guess. When I did the Pilbara trip without a trailer it was used almost every day. If you're towing a van and living from that, then maybe its something that's not required. The ARB is probably better in your circumstances with your full time. I'm still loving the coverage and ease of setup from this product though 👍
Finally finished work so the beard is coming out! 😆
Great review thank you.
I have a question.
If you where to put a rooftop tent on the platform rack what or how would you then mount the awning.
Ie the mounts you have wouldn't work..
Yes, this is something that you would have to consider. Depends on the RTT. If you had a hard shell design, they often come with awning mounting locations. Folding 'soft' shell designs, well another design would have to be implemented.
Great review 🍺
Cheers mate.
I've been looking to get something like this for a while and this has a lot cool features that moves it right to the top of my list. I wonder if it would work with those rooftop tents? Looks possible.
It has been a great unit so far 👍 Yes, this unit can be used with RTT, but would just have to find a mounting solution that works
And it’s a no from me for the beard 😂😂😂
Hi Nathan. Thanks for a very helpful video. Are the kaon brackets the only option or are the brackets from P.D. P a option.
Hey Andrew, the other brackets would definitely be viable too. I just don't have experience with them to determine whether they would be high enough to clear that rear tailgate.
The unit also comes with its own brackets, but they didn't fill me confidence.
@@XploringOz no worries i think the kaon brackets are a great plan. Just curious to find out how high the top edege is from the rhino platform when all packed up . Just so we can see if it fits under garage door space.
Hi just wondering what telescopic pole you got and where from, thanks for a great video 🐨🌻🕊️💖
No problems, glad you enjoyed it 👍
I bought this pole here, from Snowys - www.snowys.com.au/telescopic-alloy-pole
@@XploringOz Thank you really appreciated 🐨🌻🕊️💖
Do you have an old model? I can put the ball joint pole in the corner where the strap is located. I don’t need a different brand pole like you have. Hmm.
Yes, this is the same as my one. The after market telescopic pole is only for the far edge where the ball joint isn't an option. The other arms have this and this is what I've used for the other supports.
Thanks
Thanks Tom 🙏
Great review of product and your mods just a bit heavy for my 4x4
Cheers mate, for sure not a lightweight!
It comes with poles... its not free standing. Ud put those poles out or pack it away at a slight wind.
I have an Ostrich Wing, these are a rip off of that design. My Ostrich Wing will withstand winds up to about the point my hat blows off without putting poles down or adding guy ropes.
@@ajs4x482 😂😂 ur comparing ut 1700 dollar awning to 1000 one. If it comes with a pole as do both the 30 and osterich it aint free standing cause at some point they want u to use the legs as its provided with the awning.
@@krump743 the 30 second awning is near enough it doesn’t matter an EXACT copy of the Ostrich Wing. I was the first person on Australia to own one of these and with over 10 years experience and having set it up over a thousand times I can only recall one time I needed to put the pole down and add guy ropes, we were camped on a hilltop with a very strong gully wind. 99.9% of the time they can be free standing. Your claim of needing poles in a slight wind is simply not true.
@@ajs4x482 i dare them to not sell it with a support leg, they wont, cause its not up to the task of being self supporting. Hell even kings make a "free standing" awning. Just cause they say it is, doesnt make it so. Thats just market gimmick so the brands dont get left behind.
@@krump743 OK, despite the fact that I have more experience with this awning than anyone else in Australia, you obviously know more than me. Thanks for setting me straight and letting me know I’ve been doing wrong for the last 10+ years, I will be sure to not use it free standing ever again as you are obviously the guru on these things.
It’s a pity that these are just a blatant rip off of the Ostrich wing, the people that produce these are little more than thieves. Having said that, I was the very first person in Australia to get an Ostrich wing having imported it directly from South Africa and it has been awesome, which is why the people producing these stole the design.
We’re the people to sell a different brand of sleeping bag or quad fold chairs thrives too?
@@hiluxjase6665 this is an exact copy of another product, if someone designed an excellent chair or sleeping bag and someone else copied it exactly, then yes I would consider them thieves.
One can only assume they did not have a Patent on their design ?? Business is ruthless
Should of bought the bush company 1 its so much better made and stronger
I could have, but now I have over $1000 to spend on something else and this unit is still performing perfectly 👍