MK1 definitely deserves criticism. I’m a MK fan but I could admit that NRS/WB dropped the ball. I’m sure if SF6 or Tekken 8 had desync issues and was super bare bones like mk1 was when it came out, then the same people getting mad at mk1 being criticized would be ragging on those games.
SF6 and Tekken 8 has issues, but still can be improved for years. MK1 IS the issue with no chance for redemption at this point. It stinks from top to bottom.
This is what happened when SF 5 came out so we do know that SF fans will speak out when things are bad enough. As a life long MK fan i was so disappointed with the direction.
Why are people shilling this game so hard? Say anything negative about Mortal Kombat 1, even in a joking way, these shills just can't handle it. You guys are the reason the franchise is in the state it's in.
Many of you guys may relate, but me personally I've been a fan of MK since I took my first baby steps, I don't know about you guys but with everything I've seen, the MK community is one of the worst communities ever, not just in the fgc but in the entire video game industry. To the point where it's pathetic.
Nah, not even close. As long as mmorpg, moba and smash communities exists, MK has no chance to be one of the worst. They are huffing a massive amount of copium and hopium, but the toxicity is not even comparable
Agree MK streamers are all shills every patch i “saves” the game and they purposely gas light us in WB’s name for early access codes. Spinelesss humans
You need to broaden your gaming community interactions. And i don't mean that as an insult, I mean that as there are worse gaming communities such as CoD, certain mobas, CSGO and other games. If MK is the worst to you you may not have been exposed to other gaming communities as much as you think.
Honestly I can agree, I got called racist on mk1 Twitter by a community mod because I defended a video that criticized Tanya and how nrs is using her to replace jade in the mk1 story and remove what made old Tanya herself just because the criticism was from trueunderdawg who is a white UA-camr. There was nothing that was even close to racist and they never wanted to explain what made it racist in the first place. Glad I switched to the sf community now
MK community holding onto that thin rope for they life lmfao. Not surprised Sonic and Lostygirl defending so hard its all they got it seems. Shit so bad she went back to mkx I don't blame her its the better game lol.
I don't know why Losty Girl said anything. She tweeted that she doesn't find the game enjoyable. She needs to stop acting like she's happy Mortal Kombat 1 is at EVO this year.
Personally preferred Injustice 1. I loved that stage that had TVs just above you as the round started. Instant jump into TV to the head with Black Adam killed me every time 😂
if only the MK community would fight as hard in the tournaments as they doing on twitter... like all those people mad. i will see you on the stage i guess..
If we weren't laughing at their community, we definitely are now by this reaction. Imagine a game with extremely mature content, having the most immature community. I'm 37 and have been on MK since I was a child. All the way from the very start, from the very first MK game. I just don't understand how these people are defending this game as if it's something they themselves have made. We all know the game is bad, we've seen it. MK11 is a much better product from a BASE mechanic standpoint. Yeah, some people didn't like breakaway, that's fine but that was ONE THING out of many. As far as I know, people hate a lot more than just one thing in MK1 INCLUDING the main mechanic the game was designed from. The assist system is shit for a variety of reasons. I had over 1000 hours in MK11, the game was good imo. I played it way more than I did MKX because I was not a fan of the ultra oppressive offense in that game, MK1's design is the same thing. It's a one sided game, all offense all the time. It's basically a glorified training mode game, a combo exhibition. One thing that drew me to MK11 so heavily was that they focused on neutral, something MK has never really done. For the most part, that game delivered on that front ten fold and no one can say otherwise. The base mechanics of that game were good. How you feel about wakeup, breakaway, and krushing blows, that's your opinion but the point of emphasis (neutral) the game was built off of was good. I personally didn't mind any of the new stuff, sure breakaway hurt some characters, I realize that but it's not like there was just no way to deal with it. Raiden for example, had a combo string on juggle that if you input the string entirely and someone broke out, he could actually be punished for doing so because the string would whiff and it had enough recovery to where he could be hit. Here's the thing though, if you hit confirm the string instead of haphazardly inputting the whole thing, he was fine because you would stop the string upon confirming the breakaway armor. There's just no redeeming quality to MK1. I saw the shit on the wall when the gameplay trailers were dropped. I knew the game was gonna be bad, it came out and it was bad. It's still a bad game and anyone out here saying otherwise, it's just delusion at this point.
I couldn’t agree more, there was a string with Kotal and jade that did something similar where if they broke away too earlier they could respond and get a KB. So there is some counter play to the defense mechanics. And it’s this counter play that makes it fun. Its isnt just owning the opponent cuz they guessed wrong once, there actual interactions and constants to be aware of in mk11 as opposed to mk1. And even some other fighting games to an extent.
As soon as they said “KAMEOS will be part of core gameplay” I knew it will be bad… then characters swaps killed it completely for me… like getting rid of Hanzo.
Makes sense, tbh. Mortal Kombat doesn't have "mature" content- It has incredibly puerile content. It's a 15 year-old's idea of maturity. Always has been.
This goes without saying, SONICFOX OR ANY PRO OR CREATOR FOR THAT MATTER DOES NOT SPEAK FOR US. Stop saying "the community". The vast majority of us dislike this game more than the rest of you, trust me. Anybody mad at MK1 criticism is being simply disingenuous. Ive been playing MK for over 20 years and im in my late 20s lol, but a spade is a spade. Ima just hope the next game hits all the correct marks.
As much as I want to be optimistic about the next one, unfortunately, I don't think they will. I've played every single mk game there is and you know it's bad when you get to the point of wanting to play the older games like Shaolin monks or deadly alliance or mk trilogy. They had an opportunity to further mk11 like changing the whole meter system back to where it is now and just expound more on the customization of characters, (could've even did a created fighter thing imo) different modes off and online, improve the krypt mode more, and continue with a sustainable system for players instead of starting every single game from scratch every time they make one. Plus balance is literally and virtually non-existent in mk games. NRS can't make a decent balanced game at all, has been that way since mk9. Idk why it's so hard to make all characters broke so no one has the advantage over another just bc they pick certain characters. But we shall see what they do with the next game and hopefully no woke bs, gender swapping characters, no more multiverse marvel rip off stories and get back to the original one and don't make johnny cage one of the best characters for 5 games straight lol
@@kingosity93 yea, the dumbest thing and the biggest mistake NRS does is making every game from scratch… like why? What is the reason? I expected MK1 to be the combination of previous 3 games, expected them to take the best from those 3 games and put into one and improve those 3 things, and maybe add something new to experiment with, but not something new like KAMEOS as a part of CORE GAMEPLAY, they should have tested out KAMEOS as extra mode .. but nah, that’s too much for them…
@@V-95K yea exactly like I don't want to be forced to play tag team 24/7. Idk why they thought it was a good idea to basically make only 4-5 really good stand alone characters that can perform well without using a kameo in the match. Then when you look at the rest of the roster, it sucks bc they all are dependent on the kameo to be good when you don't have full control of the second one. At least Tekken made a game where that was the case. But the first sign of bs in the next game and I won't be buying.
so smash can take jokes about not being a true fgc game melty can take jokes aobut bathroom tournaments strive and their players blazblue about being gooner central granblue versus about the abc combos tekken about the anime over the top stuff and lili mains street fighter and juri feet fans but somehow a joke about evo numbers is too much???
I've been pretty active in the blazblue community on discord in my region, I actually didnt know we had a reputation or being gooners, though i understand given the characters. But granblue is not abc combos, its bbb combos. Also you missed out undernight and dragon ball Fighterz trash rollback
@@technounionrepresentative4274 I would argue that smash's community is where the majority of issues lie. The games themselves are pretty fun and enjoyable. However, sadly, interacting within the online smash brothers discourse is not productive to game development or my own mental health lol.
These people are another case of toxic positivity to cope with the bad state of a game They over exaggerate people criticisms as personal attacks to shame others into silence because they cant handle other opinions They cant handle critique of a product because they have made their entire personality that product & if the product is bad/mediocre, what does that say about them? Since their personality/life is that product they take any criticism as an attack on them. These people are weird, plain & simple.
Idk I can see where they’re coming from. It’s completely dumb but when you’ve put so much time of your life into something you’re gonna wanna defend it. Still cringe when you whine like a lil bitch tho.
How rich of Sonicfox to complain that joking about MK1 dying is getting old when he keeps flaunting about his gay furry status. Oh and bringing up being black too i guess.
Mike. Us Americans love your rant. We love how you get turnt up and still be proper about it. We find it so adorable. Don't stop or apologize about it.
Probably because it has always been the awkward stepchild of the "big 3" Street fighter is the og, Tekken is the relatively young innovator, While mortal kombat is just the game that let you rip a guy's head off. And it really has never been taken seriously, Even broken messes like mvc3 get more respect from other communities, Add on to warner brothers cutting mk1 off early and dwindling numbers at Evo, A lot of players feel that they are on thin ice
I hate modern MK as much as the next guy but to be fair, FGC has always hated the MK community. In fact it is really a misnomer to say that MK is part of the "FGC". Back in MK9 days people used to boo it tournaments and on streams. Most MK players came from online clan battle culture in the mid 2000's while the FGC as it was construed then was just the outgrowth of SF adjacent games in the arcades. It is actually a revisionist take to say that the community was more unified during mkx/mk9. You could even argue there was an "anti FGC" that consisted of DOA players and MK players because a significant amount of them actually overlapped. but thats a story for another day
In recent years i've realized this. MK is the odd man out in the FGC because there's a bias towards fighting games that were created by Japanese devs. Their games have a ruleset that makes it easy for people used to those games to easily transition between each of them.
Recently, people have legit reasons to hate this community. Proof being situations like this. Some people in the MK community are screeching morons, snowflakes that constantly shout in an echo chamber.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming there’s a subsect in each game community like that, MK is just particularly cringe. I mainly play Guilty gear and I’m gonna be honest, half of the player base are annoying af.
This is completely untrue. 😂 There was a lot of crossover fans of both SF/Tekken and MK9 like Aris, UltraDavid, Art / Spooky, Michelangelo, Yipes, Valle, even Gootecks and MikeRoss were trying it for a bit on Excellent Adventures. It's totally ridiculous to pretend MK9 wasn't a respected part of the FGC. It had a big presence on both WNF and NLBC. And for a while even japanese gods like Tokido tried to played MK9 but they gave up on the game because it was too buggy. It was super hype to watch and the community was popping off. It was never disrespected to the level you claim it was. Pretty hilarious to see these total scrub level jabronis pretending like they know something about the FGC or MK history. 😂😂
Street Fighter and Marvel, pretty much the darling franchises of the fighting game community since its inception, was heavily shit on during the SFV and MVCI era by all the other communities. How do these people expect MK of all games to NOT get shit on when NRS released pretty much one of the worst fighting games ever made?
How are people getting offended saying this is insulting the community? If anything this is an insult to Mk1 as a product for not retaining their audience.
"Let people enjoy things" has been the ABSOLUTE DUMBEST mentality that spawned within the last decade or two when people started getting exposed to the internet more and more. Seeing how not everyone in the entire world is not a zealot for what they also like makes people crumble like no tomorrow.
That's because the kof community in Na is small so drama isn't really going to surface. That said the community has its own issues such as people talking about how great kof is but won't actually play it or support it as much as they claim to. If the community ever got bigger they'd definitely be drama propping up in the scene. It happened to gg once strive blew up so I wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened if the community blew up because of a hypothetical kof 16
It’s just the pros that complain about the hate like most of us actually agree with people hating on the game the only reason most of us play is for online tourneys or simply the love of the character
@@shadicpro21 To be fair, KoF is a lot more popular in Latin America compared to the States. I completely dropped MK for KoF. KoF is stupidly fun and their women are pretty and big are their bitties!
I feel you on Tekken though. Fingers crossed that season 2 doesn't disappoint. I'm hoping for significant heat nerfs. For one, if you catch me with a heat engage from the side or back, maybe it shouldn't conveniently realign everything so that you can get a full, easy combo. But while playing Clive and looking at the effects on some of his attacks, especially the Garuda attacks, I can see the potential of what they could do with Ogre. I recall how excited they were to show off the True Ogre update for TTT2. They were hype about the small details like the snake movements in the arm. It would be cool if Ogre came in with some attacks that aren't currently in the game but also if he got some new ones. Otherwise, I'd love to bring Mokujin to ranked.
It's funny that sonicfox wants to quell the rumors that he talks to nrs behind the scenes yet he shakes his pom pins the hardest over a fuckin joke. Lol
Definitely hoping the cycle doesn't happen to Tekken and it would be even tougher if it happened to another Tag game because even now the Tag series is looked at crazy unfortunately
People can say what they want about smash but its a solid community full of dope people that all share the same thing in common that unites us. The love of the game running matches together in smash and having fun. MK on the other hand? Lmfao they abandoned their own game and can't even stick together but they'll get mad when others point out how dismal the situation appears.😂 15 players is accurate for mk1. There's more people playing mk11 than there is mk1 bro this is a sign
honestly i feel this so hard. i remember when sc6 was in its hayday. now i LOVEEEE soulcalibur, it remains my favorite franchise of all time. and i have a lot of sympathy to the dev team bc i know that its not an easy game to develop. but at the same time there are some people who i remember would get VERY sensitive when you tried to critique it. like im SORRY but some of the mechanics and tech in this game are garbage, and if you dont call it out then its going to stay like that when the next one eventually (hopefully? please bandai namco???) comes out. we dont call these things out to be mean or to be haters for the sake of being a hater, we call it out BECAUSE we love what we love so much, and we want it to be better mk deserves to get called out because WB needs to know that it did a terrible job, it needs to know that people do not find their product worth all the money they spent on it (the price of a full new game 2 fold + 10s of dollars if you bought the skins??? are you joking???), they need to know that they have disrespected their fans, who they think will buy anything they make just because they slap "mortal kombat" on the box, and if the lack of showup at a tourney is what its going to take to communicate that, then so be it
The tweet gave me a chuckle certainly, If anything should be a wake up call to WB and NRS. That they should take any future MK game seriously in terms of polish and support. If not, we’ll continue to poke fun at it lol. The community should speak up more about it.
Totally Agree. People wouldn't be making jokes about MK if it didn't suck. A shitty product deserves to be called out for being a shitty product. It's a joke... and these pathetic softies wanna cry about it. It hurts because it's true, and they know it 😂😂😂
Sadly, i’m not able to be as optimistic about new games as you, at least at this point. We might talk a lot about the issues of Tekken 8 and SF6, but i don’t think the devs look at it the same way as we do. Personally i think they just look at it from the perspective of how many people play it in every month compared to how many people played the previous game at the same time and how much money did it made them. And when it comes to that, Tekken 8 and SF6 is doing better than previous installments, especially SF6 which has crazy player retention, so i don’t see them going back to their older game designs. From their perspective, it really wouldn’t make sense to try again with, again, from their perspective, the design of a product that was inferior when it comes down to the numbers they produce. Tekken 8 devs might have to start thinking about it, given how quickly they doubled and then halved their playerbase with Clive, at least on steam since we can only see those numbers. But idk, we’ll have to wait and see.
Mk Twitter is just awful now imo and I somehow got called racist for defending underdawg's video that showed how Tanya has basically taken jade's role in the story and is nothing like what Tanya is meant to be in the first place in mk1. The only thing the person mentioned that was racist was the intro which was the same skit for his scorpion video and all it is was going through previous designs of Tanya and wanting to revert her mk1 design to mkx (the arab tanya with white eyes not the white tanya) when he did the same with mk1 scorpion wanting to revert him back to mk11 scorpion. This is a community mod as well so I'm also banned from joining back because I got blocked by them but I couldn't care less since I moved to sf6 anyway
Part of the reason why is, I believe because MK is American made while all the other major fighters are made outside the US. This is why MK is defended the way it is or atleast MK1. MK didnt get hate until MKX. Every MK game that came before was loved dearly with MK vs DC universe being the exception(this was universally panned by everyone at that time and even still now).
I didn't know you were a DNF Duel fan Mike, thought I was the only one, I'm still sad that the game died. Regarding the joke, I happen to be a MK & Tekken guy & I also happen to be friends with FGC Daily (he's from my motherland Bangladesh) & I've talked to him in Insta DMs, & I found the joke really funny. To sum it up, I'm optimistic for MK13 & I hope it's good because like you said, MK9 exists.
I wouldn’t mind a dnf stream imo the game failed because the omega slow updates and zero communication and some bad balance changes and for me personally no air blocking was so dumb to me with the size of some moves
I was gonna say 'what do you mean clowning on strive doesn't come with stabbing? Have you seen what they are thretening to do to Technicals?' but then you mentioned him so you've probably seen them.
This whole situation is indicative of a problem in gaming (as well as things like comics, superhero fandoms, anime, manga, movies and books) as a whole. That problem being toxic positivity. It has to go. So many people having mental heart attacks when you rightfully criticize a game as if you insulted them directly. No, the games deserve the criticism. Why is it that when regular workers screw up their jobs we can call them out but when it comes to gaming we have some how villainized when devs known for doing solid work do bad work? Whats happening?
Honestly drama like this is why I stick to retro games on my channel. I'm playing MK Mythologies at the moment. Not a great game by any means but it's story is better than anything we've had from the main series in years.
honestly i love mortal kombat, as well as many other fighting game franchises ive been hearing about how 'mortal kombat is dead' since the day it came out, which isn't even true in fact im going to go boot up MK1 today and practice my Ermac and Johnny hehe i know theres drama and shit talking in the FGC scene but its actually REALLY easy to play the game you like and enjoy it, even if you're someone as terrible as i am great video btw, and kudos to EVERY PERSON who puts time into games like these and keeps the online/offline scenes going for the sake of the spectators
Some people can't take a joke. I for one do like God of War and Kratos is definitely one of the best characters in video games. Though I laugh at the joke of Kratos can't break a wooden door although being a god.
12:16 to be fair warner bros. (I may not word this correctly) was cut off from its parent company in order to get rid of dept in other words WB are actually broke.
It gets harder to be a sonicfox fan daily. I like the guys gameplay but hr really needs like pr coaching or something. He should have just laughed with the joke
I’ve seen players be upset about anything when they are the only ones who are good at the game. It’s like “c’mon guys play the game!”. But win or top every tournament. Sadly pro players are just there to play it’s very rare they will put their effort into supporting the community.
8:36 pfft my favorite megaman x game is x6, that game does so much wrong and it has every right to be disliked yet thats not gonna dampen my fun with that game
The moment you realize most of these people complaining don’t even realize that Thrill Kill was expected to kill off MK at 4. And it would have been welcome in doing so.
The thing about mk being shat on for a long time is true. But it’s for a good reason. The community is by and large a toxic cesspool, and even the best of the best players are usually not actually that good fundamentally, they’re only good in mk. They’re big fish in a small pond. *cough* tweedy *cough*
I love the Mortal Kombat franchise with that being said they need to get shitted on for every terrible mistake they’ve made. Hopefully it encourages them to do better the next time.
The joke that cuts the most deep is the truth
SonicFox is more of a professional victim than a professional fighting game player.
When people just flat out give up on mk, and tournaments disappear, he will be another victim of the economy. Hiyo!
Must have learned from the college of leffen
I think sonic fox just repost’s with his replies so his followers can comfort him since we won’t do it
that is saying it lightly, but ok. socal media is his ultimate weapon for the "Ole King of NRS games"
Lmao bruh 😂 dead assss
It’s funny that the game with the hardest gore and violence has the softest players
ikr rated M for mature my ass 🤣
And dev......
Somehow someway a game with a serious tone ended up being fortnite/furry kombat. The studio needs to lose rights to mortal kombat as a franchise.
Ikr its ironic lol.
@@purplevincent4454 MK was never "serious" its just looney tunes type shit
The guy who gets paid to win tournaments is mad that nobody wants to play in his tournament?! I am shocked, profoundly shocked
He needs to hop off MK and get back to Skullgirls and other games.
Only 15 Players??
…This is my Year at EVO, Boys! 🤣
😂😂😂
Congrats in getting in the top 15 man
*One Evo later*
Don't feel bad Charlie, i think 17th place is still quite good..
@@LuigiLonLon there were only 15 players
@@Jesus-hu4lqhe lost to one of the janitors
You're about to eat your words when 16 people show up
😂😂😂
Easy top 16 under the belt if anyone goes lmao maybe a free top 8
The MK influencers are terrified of the reality that a job application is in their future
MK1 definitely deserves criticism. I’m a MK fan but I could admit that NRS/WB dropped the ball. I’m sure if SF6 or Tekken 8 had desync issues and was super bare bones like mk1 was when it came out, then the same people getting mad at mk1 being criticized would be ragging on those games.
We all shit talked SF5 for the same thing when it came out and we all love street fighter.
SF6 and Tekken 8 has issues, but still can be improved for years. MK1 IS the issue with no chance for redemption at this point. It stinks from top to bottom.
This is what happened when SF 5 came out so we do know that SF fans will speak out when things are bad enough. As a life long MK fan i was so disappointed with the direction.
@AnnaLajtos yea MK1 is broken at its core
Mk1 sucks sooooo bad I hate it more than 11
Why are people shilling this game so hard? Say anything negative about Mortal Kombat 1, even in a joking way, these shills just can't handle it. You guys are the reason the franchise is in the state it's in.
Because the only people still playing it are hardcore shills.
They need that shill money 💀
It deserves negative criticism otherwise the producers will keep up their shitty ways
Especially the ones that started playing MK11 to MK1, no MK knowledge just DEI fucks and weirdos
FGC: Complains about the FGC being too soft. Same FGC: Cries when someone makes a tame joke 🤡🤡🤡.
Many of you guys may relate, but me personally I've been a fan of MK since I took my first baby steps, I don't know about you guys but with everything I've seen, the MK community is one of the worst communities ever, not just in the fgc but in the entire video game industry. To the point where it's pathetic.
Nah, not even close. As long as mmorpg, moba and smash communities exists, MK has no chance to be one of the worst. They are huffing a massive amount of copium and hopium, but the toxicity is not even comparable
Agreed it’s so cancer at times man
Agree MK streamers are all shills every patch i “saves” the game and they purposely gas light us in WB’s name for early access codes. Spinelesss humans
You need to broaden your gaming community interactions. And i don't mean that as an insult, I mean that as there are worse gaming communities such as CoD, certain mobas, CSGO and other games. If MK is the worst to you you may not have been exposed to other gaming communities as much as you think.
Honestly I can agree, I got called racist on mk1 Twitter by a community mod because I defended a video that criticized Tanya and how nrs is using her to replace jade in the mk1 story and remove what made old Tanya herself just because the criticism was from trueunderdawg who is a white UA-camr. There was nothing that was even close to racist and they never wanted to explain what made it racist in the first place. Glad I switched to the sf community now
Considering the state MK is currently in, I half expect to see Sailor Moon or Def Jam take its spot and still achieve more viewers.
If they had Fight For New York at EVO that would be super hype 😂
Sonic battle would have at least 3 times the entries
Def Jam would be 🔥
Awwwwww SonicFox got butthurt...... Ironcally its probably not over a tweet 🤣
Ayyoooooo🤣🤣💯💯💯⏸️⏸️
dawg😂😂😂😂
He with the Diddy gang 😂😂😂😂
Lmao
Took me a sec lmfao
Do you see that Woody?
SNOWFLAKES. Snowflakes everywhere~
- Buzz Lightyear
FGC: "Arena Fighters are not real fighters"
Also FGC: "Please take our games seriously bro! Seriously MK1 is peak"
The fgc in themselves are surprised at mk1, even making it evo. So this is pretty disingenuous
And? Look how many tweeted to FG daily. Seems pretty accurate if you ask me. Disingenuous my ass mate.
"Arena Fighters are not real fighters"
The Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm series would beg to differ.
kof really be chilling lol
We know where we at 🤣
And us DOA fans are still waiting for a new game 😔
@@maverick9357 same bro we getting another vacation game instead of a fighting game 💀
@@maverick9357 if VF pops off I can see DOA throwing their hat in the ring again.
@@neocrimson3542I was surprised it was there for as long as it was. Big ups to that community though
It is kind of an exaggerated joke though. No way MK reaches all the way to 15 entrants unless SonicFox shows up with 13 different colored fursuits.
Nah the smile in the beginning is priceless bro couldn’t hold it in lmao
😂😂😂
MK community holding onto that thin rope for they life lmfao. Not surprised Sonic and Lostygirl defending so hard its all they got it seems. Shit so bad she went back to mkx I don't blame her its the better game lol.
did she not said it herself that she was burnt out outta of it ?
I don't know why Losty Girl said anything. She tweeted that she doesn't find the game enjoyable. She needs to stop acting like she's happy Mortal Kombat 1 is at EVO this year.
Man, I got clowned on by my homies, playing injustice 2 sadly, I didn't care i had fun playing it
Nothing wrong with Injustice 2 excellent game better than MK11 and 1
Personally preferred Injustice 1. I loved that stage that had TVs just above you as the round started. Instant jump into TV to the head with Black Adam killed me every time 😂
@RealMikeHollow o lord, yeah, I didn't like injustice 1 Those interactable stages were crazy in that game, lmao
if only the MK community would fight as hard in the tournaments as they doing on twitter... like all those people mad. i will see you on the stage i guess..
If we weren't laughing at their community, we definitely are now by this reaction.
Imagine a game with extremely mature content, having the most immature community.
I'm 37 and have been on MK since I was a child. All the way from the very start, from the very first MK game. I just don't understand how these people are defending this game as if it's something they themselves have made. We all know the game is bad, we've seen it. MK11 is a much better product from a BASE mechanic standpoint. Yeah, some people didn't like breakaway, that's fine but that was ONE THING out of many. As far as I know, people hate a lot more than just one thing in MK1 INCLUDING the main mechanic the game was designed from. The assist system is shit for a variety of reasons.
I had over 1000 hours in MK11, the game was good imo. I played it way more than I did MKX because I was not a fan of the ultra oppressive offense in that game, MK1's design is the same thing. It's a one sided game, all offense all the time. It's basically a glorified training mode game, a combo exhibition. One thing that drew me to MK11 so heavily was that they focused on neutral, something MK has never really done. For the most part, that game delivered on that front ten fold and no one can say otherwise. The base mechanics of that game were good. How you feel about wakeup, breakaway, and krushing blows, that's your opinion but the point of emphasis (neutral) the game was built off of was good. I personally didn't mind any of the new stuff, sure breakaway hurt some characters, I realize that but it's not like there was just no way to deal with it. Raiden for example, had a combo string on juggle that if you input the string entirely and someone broke out, he could actually be punished for doing so because the string would whiff and it had enough recovery to where he could be hit. Here's the thing though, if you hit confirm the string instead of haphazardly inputting the whole thing, he was fine because you would stop the string upon confirming the breakaway armor.
There's just no redeeming quality to MK1. I saw the shit on the wall when the gameplay trailers were dropped. I knew the game was gonna be bad, it came out and it was bad. It's still a bad game and anyone out here saying otherwise, it's just delusion at this point.
I couldn’t agree more, there was a string with Kotal and jade that did something similar where if they broke away too earlier they could respond and get a KB. So there is some counter play to the defense mechanics.
And it’s this counter play that makes it fun. Its isnt just owning the opponent cuz they guessed wrong once, there actual interactions and constants to be aware of in mk11 as opposed to mk1. And even some other fighting games to an extent.
As soon as they said “KAMEOS will be part of core gameplay” I knew it will be bad… then characters swaps killed it completely for me… like getting rid of Hanzo.
Makes sense, tbh. Mortal Kombat doesn't have "mature" content- It has incredibly puerile content. It's a 15 year-old's idea of maturity. Always has been.
This goes without saying, SONICFOX OR ANY PRO OR CREATOR FOR THAT MATTER DOES NOT SPEAK FOR US. Stop saying "the community". The vast majority of us dislike this game more than the rest of you, trust me. Anybody mad at MK1 criticism is being simply disingenuous. Ive been playing MK for over 20 years and im in my late 20s lol, but a spade is a spade. Ima just hope the next game hits all the correct marks.
As much as I want to be optimistic about the next one, unfortunately, I don't think they will. I've played every single mk game there is and you know it's bad when you get to the point of wanting to play the older games like Shaolin monks or deadly alliance or mk trilogy. They had an opportunity to further mk11 like changing the whole meter system back to where it is now and just expound more on the customization of characters, (could've even did a created fighter thing imo) different modes off and online, improve the krypt mode more, and continue with a sustainable system for players instead of starting every single game from scratch every time they make one. Plus balance is literally and virtually non-existent in mk games. NRS can't make a decent balanced game at all, has been that way since mk9. Idk why it's so hard to make all characters broke so no one has the advantage over another just bc they pick certain characters. But we shall see what they do with the next game and hopefully no woke bs, gender swapping characters, no more multiverse marvel rip off stories and get back to the original one and don't make johnny cage one of the best characters for 5 games straight lol
Nrs don’t have the ability to make a good fighting game , injustice and mk should be proof enough
@@kingosity93 yea, the dumbest thing and the biggest mistake NRS does is making every game from scratch… like why? What is the reason? I expected MK1 to be the combination of previous 3 games, expected them to take the best from those 3 games and put into one and improve those 3 things, and maybe add something new to experiment with, but not something new like KAMEOS as a part of CORE GAMEPLAY, they should have tested out KAMEOS as extra mode .. but nah, that’s too much for them…
@@V-95K yea exactly like I don't want to be forced to play tag team 24/7. Idk why they thought it was a good idea to basically make only 4-5 really good stand alone characters that can perform well without using a kameo in the match. Then when you look at the rest of the roster, it sucks bc they all are dependent on the kameo to be good when you don't have full control of the second one. At least Tekken made a game where that was the case. But the first sign of bs in the next game and I won't be buying.
so smash can take jokes about not being a true fgc game
melty can take jokes aobut bathroom tournaments
strive and their players
blazblue about being gooner central
granblue versus about the abc combos
tekken about the anime over the top stuff and lili mains
street fighter and juri feet fans
but somehow a joke about evo numbers is too much???
I've been pretty active in the blazblue community on discord in my region, I actually didnt know we had a reputation or being gooners, though i understand given the characters. But granblue is not abc combos, its bbb combos. Also you missed out undernight and dragon ball Fighterz trash rollback
Smash has other issues that being called a fake fighting game is small fries in comparison
@@technounionrepresentative4274 i didnt wanted to make child molester jokes, thats a serious topic
@@technounionrepresentative4274 I would argue that smash's community is where the majority of issues lie. The games themselves are pretty fun and enjoyable. However, sadly, interacting within the online smash brothers discourse is not productive to game development or my own mental health lol.
@@owenmelton6023 ngl smash community so legendarily bad it’s even referenced in pop culture
MK community is the most cringe.
ranting mike = best mike
😂🙏🏾 thank you.
Exactly, KOF gets shat on but we still play, nobody opinion will stop us from playing.❤
These people are another case of toxic positivity to cope with the bad state of a game
They over exaggerate people criticisms as personal attacks to shame others into silence because they cant handle other opinions
They cant handle critique of a product because they have made their entire personality that product & if the product is bad/mediocre, what does that say about them?
Since their personality/life is that product they take any criticism as an attack on them. These people are weird, plain & simple.
Idk I can see where they’re coming from. It’s completely dumb but when you’ve put so much time of your life into something you’re gonna wanna defend it. Still cringe when you whine like a lil bitch tho.
How rich of Sonicfox to complain that joking about MK1 dying is getting old when he keeps flaunting about his gay furry status.
Oh and bringing up being black too i guess.
Mike. Us Americans love your rant. We love how you get turnt up and still be proper about it. We find it so adorable. Don't stop or apologize about it.
Thank you 😂🙏🏾
Love it when one guy speaks for 320mm people
My dream is a SonicFox vs LTG match. That would be GLORIOUS.
They'd sell out arenas 😂
We talking about a boxing match? Lmao
The joke is always funny until your the butt of it. Laugh at life guys
The only reason sonicfox is mad at this is because MK is their job. Bad press = less money
Bro every game is allowed to be clowned on, why is Mortal Kombat like a protected class XD
@@Damoney125 I have no idea but people are gonna clown even more now 😂
Probably because it has always been the awkward stepchild of the "big 3"
Street fighter is the og,
Tekken is the relatively young innovator,
While mortal kombat is just the game that let you rip a guy's head off.
And it really has never been taken seriously,
Even broken messes like mvc3 get more respect from other communities,
Add on to warner brothers cutting mk1 off early and dwindling numbers at Evo,
A lot of players feel that they are on thin ice
It doesn’t but if you love the game then just naturally you will get defensive seeing all the dogpiling
I hate modern MK as much as the next guy but to be fair, FGC has always hated the MK community. In fact it is really a misnomer to say that MK is part of the "FGC". Back in MK9 days people used to boo it tournaments and on streams. Most MK players came from online clan battle culture in the mid 2000's while the FGC as it was construed then was just the outgrowth of SF adjacent games in the arcades. It is actually a revisionist take to say that the community was more unified during mkx/mk9. You could even argue there was an "anti FGC" that consisted of DOA players and MK players because a significant amount of them actually overlapped. but thats a story for another day
In recent years i've realized this. MK is the odd man out in the FGC because there's a bias towards fighting games that were created by Japanese devs. Their games have a ruleset that makes it easy for people used to those games to easily transition between each of them.
Recently, people have legit reasons to hate this community. Proof being situations like this. Some people in the MK community are screeching morons, snowflakes that constantly shout in an echo chamber.
@@WutTheDeuceGaming there’s a subsect in each game community like that, MK is just particularly cringe. I mainly play Guilty gear and I’m gonna be honest, half of the player base are annoying af.
Mk just hasn’t been a good game since like umk trilogy
This is completely untrue. 😂 There was a lot of crossover fans of both SF/Tekken and MK9 like Aris, UltraDavid, Art / Spooky, Michelangelo, Yipes, Valle, even Gootecks and MikeRoss were trying it for a bit on Excellent Adventures. It's totally ridiculous to pretend MK9 wasn't a respected part of the FGC. It had a big presence on both WNF and NLBC. And for a while even japanese gods like Tokido tried to played MK9 but they gave up on the game because it was too buggy.
It was super hype to watch and the community was popping off. It was never disrespected to the level you claim it was.
Pretty hilarious to see these total scrub level jabronis pretending like they know something about the FGC or MK history. 😂😂
The rants are the only reason I'm here lol
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Sonic keep taking L's after L's on vibe checks xDD
Street Fighter and Marvel, pretty much the darling franchises of the fighting game community since its inception, was heavily shit on during the SFV and MVCI era by all the other communities. How do these people expect MK of all games to NOT get shit on when NRS released pretty much one of the worst fighting games ever made?
They are ashamed by nothing while being offered by every thing. Why would you wanna be friends with someone can't take a joke
How are people getting offended saying this is insulting the community? If anything this is an insult to Mk1 as a product for not retaining their audience.
"Let people enjoy things" has been the ABSOLUTE DUMBEST mentality that spawned within the last decade or two when people started getting exposed to the internet more and more. Seeing how not everyone in the entire world is not a zealot for what they also like makes people crumble like no tomorrow.
This new generation of Mk casuals are too SOFT! Just like NRS
Excellent observations, commentary and opinion! TY!
Thank you, sir ☝🏾
people acting immature cause of a joke about a mature rated game is funny within itself
Thats crazy how you really don't hear anything from the KOF community. I'm a fan of the game but I might have to tap in the community.
That's because the kof community in Na is small so drama isn't really going to surface. That said the community has its own issues such as people talking about how great kof is but won't actually play it or support it as much as they claim to. If the community ever got bigger they'd definitely be drama propping up in the scene. It happened to gg once strive blew up so I wouldn't be surprised if a similar thing happened if the community blew up because of a hypothetical kof 16
Most of them can't get a visa to show up to a tournament from what I've heard
It’s just the pros that complain about the hate like most of us actually agree with people hating on the game the only reason most of us play is for online tourneys or simply the love of the character
When times are hard a hero shows up.
The biggest Joke in here is Sonic Fox .
Getting SonicFox butthurt is probably a popup achievement in the game of Life.
the fact that MK1 is there over KOFXV is crazy aint nobody want to see that shit
Last year it had more players than KOF15. Doesn't seem like KOF15 has been doing hot sadly.
@@shadicpro21 Yea it's sucks cuz KOF 15 is such a good game and objectively better than MK1
Well I do
@@shadicpro21 that's a shame they could've at least put 3rd strike anything over 1
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To be fair, KoF is a lot more popular in Latin America compared to the States. I completely dropped MK for KoF. KoF is stupidly fun and their women are pretty and big are their bitties!
I feel you on Tekken though. Fingers crossed that season 2 doesn't disappoint. I'm hoping for significant heat nerfs. For one, if you catch me with a heat engage from the side or back, maybe it shouldn't conveniently realign everything so that you can get a full, easy combo. But while playing Clive and looking at the effects on some of his attacks, especially the Garuda attacks, I can see the potential of what they could do with Ogre. I recall how excited they were to show off the True Ogre update for TTT2. They were hype about the small details like the snake movements in the arm. It would be cool if Ogre came in with some attacks that aren't currently in the game but also if he got some new ones. Otherwise, I'd love to bring Mokujin to ranked.
It's funny that sonicfox wants to quell the rumors that he talks to nrs behind the scenes yet he shakes his pom pins the hardest over a fuckin joke. Lol
MK fans are tired of the same jokes but not tired of NRS and WB’s same mistakes 🤭
That's the biggest joke 😂
It made me chuckle, but it's the sad reality 😂 that MK1 is done, I agree with FGD and your rant is valid
Bro lookin like Dynasty in that thumbnail
Watching this while working is an absolute blessing
The mk community hatred needs to redirected they mad at the wrong people they acting like we the ones you made a undercooked game smh lol
Definitely hoping the cycle doesn't happen to Tekken and it would be even tougher if it happened to another Tag game because even now the Tag series is looked at crazy unfortunately
People can say what they want about smash but its a solid community full of dope people that all share the same thing in common that unites us. The love of the game running matches together in smash and having fun. MK on the other hand? Lmfao they abandoned their own game and can't even stick together but they'll get mad when others point out how dismal the situation appears.😂 15 players is accurate for mk1. There's more people playing mk11 than there is mk1 bro this is a sign
honestly i feel this so hard. i remember when sc6 was in its hayday. now i LOVEEEE soulcalibur, it remains my favorite franchise of all time. and i have a lot of sympathy to the dev team bc i know that its not an easy game to develop. but at the same time there are some people who i remember would get VERY sensitive when you tried to critique it. like im SORRY but some of the mechanics and tech in this game are garbage, and if you dont call it out then its going to stay like that when the next one eventually (hopefully? please bandai namco???) comes out. we dont call these things out to be mean or to be haters for the sake of being a hater, we call it out BECAUSE we love what we love so much, and we want it to be better
mk deserves to get called out because WB needs to know that it did a terrible job, it needs to know that people do not find their product worth all the money they spent on it (the price of a full new game 2 fold + 10s of dollars if you bought the skins??? are you joking???), they need to know that they have disrespected their fans, who they think will buy anything they make just because they slap "mortal kombat" on the box, and if the lack of showup at a tourney is what its going to take to communicate that, then so be it
I heard the viewer count was expected to be 13. Only 2 people can play at once so that makes sense.
The tweet gave me a chuckle certainly, If anything should be a wake up call to WB and NRS. That they should take any future MK game seriously in terms of polish and support. If not, we’ll continue to poke fun at it lol. The community should speak up more about it.
Totally Agree. People wouldn't be making jokes about MK if it didn't suck. A shitty product deserves to be called out for being a shitty product. It's a joke... and these pathetic softies wanna cry about it. It hurts because it's true, and they know it 😂😂😂
It's unironically funny
Sadly, i’m not able to be as optimistic about new games as you, at least at this point. We might talk a lot about the issues of Tekken 8 and SF6, but i don’t think the devs look at it the same way as we do. Personally i think they just look at it from the perspective of how many people play it in every month compared to how many people played the previous game at the same time and how much money did it made them. And when it comes to that, Tekken 8 and SF6 is doing better than previous installments, especially SF6 which has crazy player retention, so i don’t see them going back to their older game designs. From their perspective, it really wouldn’t make sense to try again with, again, from their perspective, the design of a product that was inferior when it comes down to the numbers they produce. Tekken 8 devs might have to start thinking about it, given how quickly they doubled and then halved their playerbase with Clive, at least on steam since we can only see those numbers. But idk, we’ll have to wait and see.
Mk Twitter is just awful now imo and I somehow got called racist for defending underdawg's video that showed how Tanya has basically taken jade's role in the story and is nothing like what Tanya is meant to be in the first place in mk1. The only thing the person mentioned that was racist was the intro which was the same skit for his scorpion video and all it is was going through previous designs of Tanya and wanting to revert her mk1 design to mkx (the arab tanya with white eyes not the white tanya) when he did the same with mk1 scorpion wanting to revert him back to mk11 scorpion. This is a community mod as well so I'm also banned from joining back because I got blocked by them but I couldn't care less since I moved to sf6 anyway
Part of the reason why is, I believe because MK is American made while all the other major fighters are made outside the US. This is why MK is defended the way it is or atleast MK1. MK didnt get hate until MKX. Every MK game that came before was loved dearly with MK vs DC universe being the exception(this was universally panned by everyone at that time and even still now).
To love something is to accept when it fucks up aswell the cope is funny
I didn't know you were a DNF Duel fan Mike, thought I was the only one, I'm still sad that the game died. Regarding the joke, I happen to be a MK & Tekken guy & I also happen to be friends with FGC Daily (he's from my motherland Bangladesh) & I've talked to him in Insta DMs, & I found the joke really funny. To sum it up, I'm optimistic for MK13 & I hope it's good because like you said, MK9 exists.
Just goes to show these people have nothing else going on in their life's, so they need to be vocal about a light hearted joke.
I wouldn’t mind a dnf stream imo the game failed because the omega slow updates and zero communication and some bad balance changes and for me personally no air blocking was so dumb to me with the size of some moves
20:43 This tweet is literally what I feel, knowing DNF Duel will not get anymore future dlc.
Mortal Kombat wasn't respected in the FGC before MK9 came out in 2011.
Probably because they were really fun games but competitively they were horrible.
@RealMikeHollow UMK3/Trilogy is actually pretty good competitively but yeah, everything else before MK9 wasn't.
I was gonna say 'what do you mean clowning on strive doesn't come with stabbing? Have you seen what they are thretening to do to Technicals?' but then you mentioned him so you've probably seen them.
Yeah and he's going right after the community, not the game itself 😂 FGC daily made fun of the game and the scene took it personally.
Full grown adults crying over a joke lmaoo
You are sooooo right
This whole situation is indicative of a problem in gaming (as well as things like comics, superhero fandoms, anime, manga, movies and books) as a whole. That problem being toxic positivity. It has to go. So many people having mental heart attacks when you rightfully criticize a game as if you insulted them directly. No, the games deserve the criticism. Why is it that when regular workers screw up their jobs we can call them out but when it comes to gaming we have some how villainized when devs known for doing solid work do bad work? Whats happening?
3:36, god dammit sonicfox you gotta chill. Also, that joke is gonna happen regardless.
Dnf duel stream would be sick!
Honestly drama like this is why I stick to retro games on my channel. I'm playing MK Mythologies at the moment. Not a great game by any means but it's story is better than anything we've had from the main series in years.
honestly i love mortal kombat, as well as many other fighting game franchises
ive been hearing about how 'mortal kombat is dead' since the day it came out, which isn't even true
in fact im going to go boot up MK1 today and practice my Ermac and Johnny hehe
i know theres drama and shit talking in the FGC scene but its actually REALLY easy to play the game you like and enjoy it,
even if you're someone as terrible as i am
great video btw, and kudos to EVERY PERSON who puts time into games like these and keeps the online/offline scenes going for the sake of the spectators
Some people can't take a joke. I for one do like God of War and Kratos is definitely one of the best characters in video games. Though I laugh at the joke of Kratos can't break a wooden door although being a god.
12:16 to be fair warner bros. (I may not word this correctly) was cut off from its parent company in order to get rid of dept in other words WB are actually broke.
It gets harder to be a sonicfox fan daily. I like the guys gameplay but hr really needs like pr coaching or something. He should have just laughed with the joke
Its always sonic or losty lmao 😂
The mortal Kombat community is dead just like the game.
Oh no all 20 of the player base got mad
We welcome you to KoF.
It's called tough love. Every game we love deserves it.
Stop hurting sonic fox's feelings, don't you see mk is all he's got?
Must be hard to sit at the throne in the kingdom of trash.
I’ve seen players be upset about anything when they are the only ones who are good at the game. It’s like “c’mon guys play the game!”. But win or top every tournament. Sadly pro players are just there to play it’s very rare they will put their effort into supporting the community.
8:36 pfft my favorite megaman x game is x6, that game does so much wrong and it has every right to be disliked yet thats not gonna dampen my fun with that game
All this over a little joke?
Grow up, people.
The moment you realize most of these people complaining don’t even realize that Thrill Kill was expected to kill off MK at 4. And it would have been welcome in doing so.
The MK community is not beating the soft allegations with this one
SonicSoy at it again.
Losty lost my respect long ago, she blocked me because I spoke my mind about the game and her bad takes. Hate, she doesn't know what real hate is...
Blocking someone on Twitter seems like such a waste of time now. They can still see everything you're doing 😂
@RealMikeHollow when someone blocks you on x you know you've touched a nerf,lol ...and she's too political
The thing about mk being shat on for a long time is true. But it’s for a good reason. The community is by and large a toxic cesspool, and even the best of the best players are usually not actually that good fundamentally, they’re only good in mk. They’re big fish in a small pond. *cough* tweedy *cough*
I love the Mortal Kombat franchise with that being said they need to get shitted on for every terrible mistake they’ve made. Hopefully it encourages them to do better the next time.
When Mike opens the video with a shit eating grin, you know it's gonna be good
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