Stock form of this car has a lot of issues. All of the mods I’ve done are to correct some of the OEM issues. The LT4 in here gets hot as hell, needs cooling upgrades to avoid timing pull which reduces HP (no limp mode it just restricts timing), OEM wheels cracking, mediocre GM paint job, 3LZ leather dashes will peel up and off so avoid 3LZ trim, 1-4 skip shift needs tuned out, the engine has AFM hardware that can fail and destroy the motor (there’s AFM delete kits), the 17-19 have extra radiators and better supercharger bricks/lid and it still gets timing pull quickly after being run hard, some people get the clutch/tq tube chatter, center armrest like to wrinkle up easily, and some stuff I’m probably missing. Still love the car though
17-19 M7 cars don't overheat...Just avoid the slush boxes if you're going to track. You can defeat the skip shift with a simple $10 part so no need to tune. The armrest wrinkle was fixed in later years, and 3LZs are a waste of money on older platforms anyway, so stick with 1 & 2LZ and that way you avoid the leather dash. The AFM is a VERY SMALL risk, but most Z06s won't see enough mileage to be concerned about it. I had an early '23 Z but sold it after 6 months and picked up a low mile '18 M7 Z because I missed the stick and didn't trust the LT6 and DCT to age well.
@@schaffer5653 they still overheat. I have a 18 z06 manual and it will start pulling timing (HP) waaaaaay before flashing a CEL or limp mode. They still get too hot but don’t limp mode themselves. Going to flex fuel/e85 has helped a lot on mine.
@@maddpullz I have a 15 A8 Z06, had the TSB done where they added an extra radiator and such, took it to the track and engine overheating wasn't an issue. Beforehand I ran at around 210-220 on average and after a lap or 2 it'll be in limp mode, afterwards though temps are usually below 200 and never overheated...however the A8 trans itself does overheat after about 6 or 7th lap.
I live in Napa, CA. I have a 2016 Z06 A8, 3LZ, convertible. I received a (well deserved) citation for doing 85 in a 35 zone. It was clear, dry, and no traffic, but that's not an excuse. The officer was very nice, complimented my car and gave me the ticket. It was about a $450 fine (no jail time) and a hit on my insurance premium. It is too easy to go too fast, but I love it.
In a predicament with my '22 ZL1 right now, don't if I should keep it, too easy to go fast but damn it's a great car man. Got two tickets on 95 so far and boy that insurance got dented.
You should have hired a traffic lawyer. I got off on all three of my recent speeding tickets over a couple years. They can get them dismissed or lowered to a non-moving violation so It won’t show up on your insurance. About 260$ to hire in seattle.
no victim, no crime. no one was hurt or threatened in anyway. most of these speed limits are based on arbitrary laws made in the 1950s anyways. Just always fight it in court with a ticket fighting lawyer and it will always be reduced.
Im so glad you have a manual. Its my biggest complaint about the C8 is no manual. People say well the auto is faster etx.but who cares,a corvette without a manual is crazy
@@goofy_xf6223 Nah they do that's why they didn't include it lol, it costs them too much money for the infrastructure to manufacture a separate trans for the car and not enough people buy manual to make acceptable profit/ROI. Although on car forums, groups and such it seems like 70-80% of us want manual, in reality the people buying new cars (probably out of your average manual enthusiast's price range) don't spring for the manual.
Reasons : 1. You need a daily driver. You can't fire up a 650 horse engine just to get groceries a mile away. 2. GM will stop producing seats, any interior leather, steering wheels, and headlights. The parts that wear out, while the car still has 90% of its mileage yet to live. If you can live with those things, you may still be in the market for a C7. I love my C6, and have no way to really get it back to showroom condition because of the above, so it stays. So basically, I have to become a 2 Corvette owner now, and that's just a lot of tires, oil and taxes.
@@AllThingsFlightSim Did that. They fit crappy, and don't seal to the body panels. I still love the C6, just wish I could have new seats and lights, and maybe some weatherstripping.
Had a wheel crack but just put on a repro for about $300. It has been good for 3 years. No other problems but mine is an auto. 54K miles. Same color as this. And yes, everyone wants to race!
If someone really believe the Z is too much car, but the Stingray is not enough, then get a C6Z...One of the best bangs for the buck out there...But make sure the heads have been redone.
Faulty Worn Brakes sensor light is another problem area, that is impossible to get fixed. You just have to turn off the warning light and ignore it. Also, the padding in my driver seat gave out after 25,000 miles. I use a cervix cushion to avoid having to get my driver seat padding replaced. I don't like the carbon build up on the exhaust tips either, I have to wipe them up every other day to keep them shiny. But the car is certainly worth the trouble...driving this beast is like strapping into a fighter jet. Automotive nirvana!!!!
Once you see this you can't unsee it..... what is going on with your driver side door trim piece being so out of line with the dash? I love my c7z but it is the 3lz and I have the dash delamination issue. Going to see if an upholstery shop would tackle the project. I like the other details of the 3lz like alcantara on the apillars (since it's not a touch point, the alcantara is nice)
I have an '18 C7 Z51, and I wish I never bought it. The thing I hate about mine is the chronic auto transmission shuddering making owning one a stressful frustrating expensive experience. I recommend getting a Mustang GT or a V8 Challenger instead.
Stingray owner here. It's actually a great daily driver. Even on the highway, I'm enjoying its performance as a car, and its powerful enough to be extremely defensive in my terrible Tampa traffic.
C5 HANDS DOWN has the best timeless body exotic look for a Corvette. The last of pop up heads lights look in my opinion is epic to the eyes.. all the head lights after C5 look off.
Very good point bringing up the power that this corvette has to offer as a downside. Cops are always hungry to pull over a car that drives that much attention especially when its too easy to go too fast. I’ve been bouncing between this and the C6 Z06 but after this video I think I’ll settle for the C6. It has a lot less power and it’s significantly cheaper.
Less power and weighs less. I'm indecisive on which Z06 to get too, but I see many people claiming the C6 is more of a driver's car with it being more connected. Will drive both before a decision. I did drive the base manual C6 and I wasn't a fan. Was kinda boring to drive. Hoping the Z06 isn't dull..
I have a C6 GS, because I was worried about the LS7 blowing up like they seem to do and I wanted a removable roof. It’s amazing and I love it every time I drive it. Still can’t believe I’m a damn Corvette owner! C6Z needs valve guides replaced to be remotely reliable.
Well for the issues that you make I can agree pretty much with all, but I do have a reasoning for the issues. The rims crack I believe because of those Michellin Cup 2 tires that have an extremely stiff side walls. Z06 is a perfomance car with lots of power so the rear rims crack more often that front rims simply because all the power is at the rear. Overheating occurs at high ambiant temperatures. I have seen the A8 run into that problem. The M7 does not experience hear soak. Niether experience over heating if driven ina city. A8 does not have the clutch issue. However, certian model year Z06's have their problems. 2017 have that transmission shudder issue while the 2016 has issues with trasmission fluid temp sensor. In all these are graet cars and best bang for the buck. Nothing can beat that. You want 650 Hp? you should pay well over 100K for anything other than a C7 Z06.
There are plenty of C7 Z06 out there with no major problems besides the delaminating of the dash or console along with the cracked rims. This is a known fact. But there’s also so so many more that are problem free. Which most are. You only here about the guys with problems never all the ones without. I suggest get on the forum there’s fountains of info on everything imaginable. Good luck@@mr.martinezchemistry6471
He’s already driving with the rev match on. Look at the cluster display the numbers are amber color. That means the rev match is on. Also I can tell when he down shifts how it sounds
If you want a C7 to use daily, get a stingray. The Z06 and beyond are weekend cars and fun cars. The stingray and all its models are cars that can easily be used daily and they are great daily cars.
You’re wrong about having to lift the gas when you’re shifting. Corvettes have what is called no lift shift. If you have the gas pedal floored, you can keep it floored and switch gears. The car should hold itself on hills so taking off should be simple if you know how to work a clutch right. If you want to drive fast, avoid traffic and invest in a radar detector. Only speed on highways and freeways.
dont want 2knok on..wood..but ive had me 19 zo6 manuel transm....almost 2years....35-k.....orig.black wheels-no overheating issues even when in the 90-s......-clutch is fine....all is groovy mann!!!i will say;but im always changen the oil+ all other fluids i changged. love this car..but i will say the engine is stok...way 2much horse powers!!!wonderful car..
Owning 650hp car and complaining about reliability, really? If you want reliability get the stingray and look after it well and it will last you a good while.
Lots of assumptions and assertions.........that are nit picky........the car is fantastic........drive it and enjoy and forget all that nonsense.......when and if things go wrong.......get another one.
😊 I stop the video in the beginning and I do like the c7's better than the Chiefs they separated the tailpipes on the c8 stingray didn't like that they should be in the middle of the car quad exhaust and the other thing I can't get over is no stick shift I don't want to push a button in a sports car I need somewhere to rest my hand I have a C6 09 convertible now I love it also the big ass panel in the center of the c8 his way overdone you can't reach over and put your hand on your girl's lap or do other things C6 or c7 all day have to have a stick shift
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Stock form of this car has a lot of issues. All of the mods I’ve done are to correct some of the OEM issues. The LT4 in here gets hot as hell, needs cooling upgrades to avoid timing pull which reduces HP (no limp mode it just restricts timing), OEM wheels cracking, mediocre GM paint job, 3LZ leather dashes will peel up and off so avoid 3LZ trim, 1-4 skip shift needs tuned out, the engine has AFM hardware that can fail and destroy the motor (there’s AFM delete kits), the 17-19 have extra radiators and better supercharger bricks/lid and it still gets timing pull quickly after being run hard, some people get the clutch/tq tube chatter, center armrest like to wrinkle up easily, and some stuff I’m probably missing. Still love the car though
17-19 M7 cars don't overheat...Just avoid the slush boxes if you're going to track. You can defeat the skip shift with a simple $10 part so no need to tune. The armrest wrinkle was fixed in later years, and 3LZs are a waste of money on older platforms anyway, so stick with 1 & 2LZ and that way you avoid the leather dash. The AFM is a VERY SMALL risk, but most Z06s won't see enough mileage to be concerned about it. I had an early '23 Z but sold it after 6 months and picked up a low mile '18 M7 Z because I missed the stick and didn't trust the LT6 and DCT to age well.
@@schaffer5653 they still overheat. I have a 18 z06 manual and it will start pulling timing (HP) waaaaaay before flashing a CEL or limp mode. They still get too hot but don’t limp mode themselves. Going to flex fuel/e85 has helped a lot on mine.
@@schaffer5653 my z06 lost around 9%HP between dyno on 68 degrees vs 104 degrees ambient temps alone while never going into limp mode
Buy that center arm rest from GM today! I guarantee it becomes "discontinued" soon if not already. Best wishes, and thanks for the warnings.
@@maddpullz I have a 15 A8 Z06, had the TSB done where they added an extra radiator and such, took it to the track and engine overheating wasn't an issue. Beforehand I ran at around 210-220 on average and after a lap or 2 it'll be in limp mode, afterwards though temps are usually below 200 and never overheated...however the A8 trans itself does overheat after about 6 or 7th lap.
I live in Napa, CA. I have a 2016 Z06 A8, 3LZ, convertible. I received a (well deserved) citation for doing 85 in a 35 zone. It was clear, dry, and no traffic, but that's not an excuse. The officer was very nice, complimented my car and gave me the ticket. It was about a $450 fine (no jail time) and a hit on my insurance premium. It is too easy to go too fast, but I love it.
In a predicament with my '22 ZL1 right now, don't if I should keep it, too easy to go fast but damn it's a great car man. Got two tickets on 95 so far and boy that insurance got dented.
You should have hired a traffic lawyer. I got off on all three of my recent speeding tickets over a couple years. They can get them dismissed or lowered to a non-moving violation so It won’t show up on your insurance. About 260$ to hire in seattle.
no victim, no crime. no one was hurt or threatened in anyway. most of these speed limits are based on arbitrary laws made in the 1950s anyways. Just always fight it in court with a ticket fighting lawyer and it will always be reduced.
Your out by me, I'm in fairfield. Nice car.
Just bought one, it puts a big smile one me. Badass car stock
My clutch gave out at 22k miles. Replaced it with a monster triple disk setup. Couldn’t be happier!!!
Ok cool thanks for letting us know
How much did all that cost?
Im so glad you have a manual. Its my biggest complaint about the C8 is no manual. People say well the auto is faster etx.but who cares,a corvette without a manual is crazy
They don't realize a manual will feel faster, even if it is a fraction of a second slower on paper.
@@ArthaxtaDaVince777or they don’t care. It’s not that damn deep.
@@Herecomesthethruth i like corvettes without manual. I feel like I'd kill myself personally if I owned a manual corvette
@@goofy_xf6223 Nah they do that's why they didn't include it lol, it costs them too much money for the infrastructure to manufacture a separate trans for the car and not enough people buy manual to make acceptable profit/ROI. Although on car forums, groups and such it seems like 70-80% of us want manual, in reality the people buying new cars (probably out of your average manual enthusiast's price range) don't spring for the manual.
@ArthaxtaDaVince777 is a lot more exciting to drive
I love the c6 z06 it just looks perfect imo
Reasons : 1. You need a daily driver. You can't fire up a 650 horse engine just to get groceries a mile away. 2. GM will stop producing seats, any interior leather, steering wheels, and headlights. The parts that wear out, while the car still has 90% of its mileage yet to live. If you can live with those things, you may still be in the market for a C7. I love my C6, and have no way to really get it back to showroom condition because of the above, so it stays. So basically, I have to become a 2 Corvette owner now, and that's just a lot of tires, oil and taxes.
Just buy aftermarket headlights for your c6
@@AllThingsFlightSim Did that. They fit crappy, and don't seal to the body panels. I still love the C6, just wish I could have new seats and lights, and maybe some weatherstripping.
There's aftermarket support for most of that though. Heck people still running C3s and C4s.
Why can’t you fire up 650 horse to get a gallon of milk a mile away? I look for any excuse to drive mine.
Had a wheel crack but just put on a repro for about $300. It has been good for 3 years. No other problems but mine is an auto. 54K miles. Same color as this. And yes, everyone wants to race!
How long do c6s and c7s usually last? I hear they go over 100k miles without many problems.
I'd pick the C7 over the C8 anyday of the week. The C7 looks wayyyy better.
Isn't the Grand Sport in between the stingray and z06?
Tbh it’s not near a Z06 it’s like a beefed up stingray.
thank u that made me so upset for no reason how do u forget the grand sport😭
Grand spirt is the exact same power as stingray, it just had widebody.
It’s the same LT1 engine with just the wide body. The engine specs are the same
@@mdolandeseengine specs are very different between a grand sport and a Z06,oh lol misunderstood sorry
I want one but I need to save up bail money first.
Can you please tell me where you purchased the black winglets that are affixed to the factory rear spoiler? Thank you in advance!
1. It has the turning radius of a Greyhound bus. 2. Can't judge where the front end is when trying to park. I had a 2016 and a 2019 ZO6.
If someone really believe the Z is too much car, but the Stingray is not enough, then get a C6Z...One of the best bangs for the buck out there...But make sure the heads have been redone.
Those are garbage.
Faulty Worn Brakes sensor light is another problem area, that is impossible to get fixed. You just have to turn off the warning light and ignore it. Also, the padding in my driver seat gave out after 25,000 miles. I use a cervix cushion to avoid having to get my driver seat padding replaced. I don't like the carbon build up on the exhaust tips either, I have to wipe them up every other day to keep them shiny. But the car is certainly worth the trouble...driving this beast is like strapping into a fighter jet. Automotive nirvana!!!!
Ez to fix :)
Deleting the PCV system or installing a catch can should help with the tips
Do you never use rev match. Clutch
Would last a lot longer.
Once you see this you can't unsee it..... what is going on with your driver side door trim piece being so out of line with the dash? I love my c7z but it is the 3lz and I have the dash delamination issue. Going to see if an upholstery shop would tackle the project. I like the other details of the 3lz like alcantara on the apillars (since it's not a touch point, the alcantara is nice)
I have 2019 z06 MT 3LZ hit 190 mph with targa open. Best experience ever
As a C7Z owner, there are more than 3 things to dislike about it
What else would you add?
Elebrate????
The c7 zr1 is my favorite car i dont have to say why. Whats your all time favorite car im curious to know ?????
Can those flickering dash lights be turned off? That shit would drive me nuts
Nice video as always
How much is it to replace the clutch on the c7?
I love them. With both traction controls are shut off and in sport is crazy. Be careful or it will hurt you
Haven't watched the video yet, but the 2nd gear lockout due to "economy shifting" really pisses me off during traffic
I have an '18 C7 Z51, and I wish I never bought it. The thing I hate about mine is the chronic auto transmission shuddering making owning one a stressful frustrating expensive experience. I recommend getting a Mustang GT or a V8 Challenger instead.
Stingray owner here. It's actually a great daily driver. Even on the highway, I'm enjoying its performance as a car, and its powerful enough to be extremely defensive in my terrible Tampa traffic.
I daily drive mine as well. I have no complaints. The trunk area surprisingly has a decent amount of storage.
Grand sport is the in between. As an owner of a c7z a big negative is the cost to mod. To make good power cost 25-45k
what is good power?
Anything above 800hp
@@javiermartinez-ub1qj 750-900 wheel
@@TyZo6 750 is easy 800+ you need a cam
I like them both, but looks alone, I prefer the C7. The C8 is growing on me though.
C7 and c4 are the two best looking corvette
C7 ftw all day, every day.
The other big downside is the AFM lifter issue. Easy fix, but big negative.
I want one, but I live in Africa 😔.where can I find one with less than 50k miles
I disagree, C7 looks way better than C8. :)
Premature pilot bearing failure on mine. $15 part costs $2k to replace.
C7 or c8, it's a tough choice. Both are beautiful and fast.
between those 2 c7 all the way. i personally never liked the look of the c8. but everyone has their own taste
@@Wichan137 everyone hates the c8 and i have no idea why
@@aircraftsandtrains2309 can't tune them like the c7's and personally i think the C7's sounds much better
3 seconds 0-60 feels good in a C8 with Only 495hp.
@@cody-zo6 c8 sounds better with borla atak
C5 HANDS DOWN has the best timeless body exotic look for a Corvette. The last of pop up heads lights look in my opinion is epic to the eyes.. all the head lights after C5 look off.
So basically, buy a ZL1 if you want to avoid a lot of these issues?
So those issues are for all C7 disregarding the year?
Very good point bringing up the power that this corvette has to offer as a downside. Cops are always hungry to pull over a car that drives that much attention especially when its too easy to go too fast. I’ve been bouncing between this and the C6 Z06 but after this video I think I’ll settle for the C6. It has a lot less power and it’s significantly cheaper.
Very exciting man, hope you find the right car for you!
Less power and weighs less. I'm indecisive on which Z06 to get too, but I see many people claiming the C6 is more of a driver's car with it being more connected. Will drive both before a decision.
I did drive the base manual C6 and I wasn't a fan. Was kinda boring to drive. Hoping the Z06 isn't dull..
@@Chinese_ChickenLmk how it goes man because I’m still gonna test drive both as well.
I have a C6 GS, because I was worried about the LS7 blowing up like they seem to do and I wanted a removable roof. It’s amazing and I love it every time I drive it. Still can’t believe I’m a damn Corvette owner! C6Z needs valve guides replaced to be remotely reliable.
cause investing in a radar scanner is crazy
Well for the issues that you make I can agree pretty much with all, but I do have a reasoning for the issues. The rims crack I believe because of those Michellin Cup 2 tires that have an extremely stiff side walls. Z06 is a perfomance car with lots of power so the rear rims crack more often that front rims simply because all the power is at the rear. Overheating occurs at high ambiant temperatures. I have seen the A8 run into that problem. The M7 does not experience hear soak. Niether experience over heating if driven ina city. A8 does not have the clutch issue. However, certian model year Z06's have their problems. 2017 have that transmission shudder issue while the 2016 has issues with trasmission fluid temp sensor. In all these are graet cars and best bang for the buck. Nothing can beat that. You want 650 Hp? you should pay well over 100K for anything other than a C7 Z06.
Never too fast or too much horsepower.
Dragstrip buddy, ever heard of it?
Stock exhaust?
I have c7 z lots of problems on reliability issues looks good but not worth it ill stiil keep but u have to build it
May I ask what kind of problems? What year is your Z06? I’m in the market for a C7 Z06 or C8 stingray.
@mr.martinezchemistry6471 just get the c8
There are plenty of C7 Z06 out there with no major problems besides the delaminating of the dash or console along with the cracked rims. This is a known fact. But there’s also so so many more that are problem free. Which most are. You only here about the guys with problems never all the ones without. I suggest get on the forum there’s fountains of info on everything imaginable. Good luck@@mr.martinezchemistry6471
@@mr.martinezchemistry6471 I had a c7z for 1.5 years. only spent 2k on maintence not incluiding tires
@@LuisFlores-xw1zt been hearing that C8 have a lot of transmission issues. Kind of reluctant to get one now, we’ll see.
So I won’t be able to be a drift king w the z06 damn ima kinda sad
i picked up a 2.2cuft microwave in my C7... i had to remove it fron the box but i got it home
You really never once mentioned rev match. Do you even know your car has that option?
He’s already driving with the rev match on. Look at the cluster display the numbers are amber color. That means the rev match is on. Also I can tell when he down shifts how it sounds
If you want a C7 to use daily, get a stingray. The Z06 and beyond are weekend cars and fun cars. The stingray and all its models are cars that can easily be used daily and they are great daily cars.
You’re wrong about having to lift the gas when you’re shifting. Corvettes have what is called no lift shift. If you have the gas pedal floored, you can keep it floored and switch gears. The car should hold itself on hills so taking off should be simple if you know how to work a clutch right. If you want to drive fast, avoid traffic and invest in a radar detector. Only speed on highways and freeways.
63 is the best looking so far.
Gotta get you in a c6 z06
dont want 2knok on..wood..but ive had me 19 zo6 manuel transm....almost 2years....35-k.....orig.black wheels-no overheating issues even when in the 90-s......-clutch is fine....all is groovy mann!!!i will say;but im always changen the oil+ all other fluids i changged. love this car..but i will say the engine is stok...way 2much horse powers!!!wonderful car..
I have a 19Z manual 3LZ and I love it. Lets just say everything’s been great. 22,000 miles
Grate car bro 👏
Bro I get gapped in a Honda jazz 💀
Sorry dude you’re misinformed. The only problem the c7 Z06 has is it overheats on the track with heavy use. Mine ha over 60k and never had a problem.
The c8 looks more like a sports/super car the c7 is beefy American muscle
c4 looks best imo
C6 Zo6 is perfect!
You need clutch lessons. Aside from that good review
I want freedom and fun
So does he not know about the grandsport…
Owning 650hp car and complaining about reliability, really? If you want reliability get the stingray and look after it well and it will last you a good while.
The c8 is ugly , c6 and c7 look the best
I agree but you trippin C8 is absolutely not ugly
It's absolutely ugly.the C7s were the last real corvettes
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Those the 2 best Corvettes period & comparing them is apples to oranges, it’s whichever style fits you better.
I don’t know if I would go that far….
Lots of assumptions and assertions.........that are nit picky........the car is fantastic........drive it and enjoy and forget all that nonsense.......when and if things go wrong.......get another one.
😊 I stop the video in the beginning and I do like the c7's better than the Chiefs they separated the tailpipes on the c8 stingray didn't like that they should be in the middle of the car quad exhaust and the other thing I can't get over is no stick shift I don't want to push a button in a sports car I need somewhere to rest my hand I have a C6 09 convertible now I love it also the big ass panel in the center of the c8 his way overdone you can't reach over and put your hand on your girl's lap or do other things C6 or c7 all day have to have a stick shift
Its Zee Oh six or Zee zero six ?😅
Zero.
@@mikegoodwin2386 i know just kidding 🤣
C6Z FTW!!!
Yah but you wouldn’t know because your not an owner your someone who sat in it for a video and then gave it back so how can you say anything
7:42 just move to germany.... problem solved xD
C74LIFE
C6 all the way
The c8 looks like caca 😂😂😂
What is hate about Chevy with the corvette, that ugly as he'll v shaped running light on front end
C8 is ugly and should've been given a different name because its missing the soul of a Corvette. It just misses the mark of what a Corvette is.
I want freedom and fun