A note worthy to anyone considering this sander: I bought the Sealey version and it comes with the extraction hose. The Sealay version also holds the setting memory and the paddle varies the speed rather than just on/off. A very sturdy sander which is well balanced, I assume much like the version in this video.
Hi John, I'm interested in the same combo, how do you find the auto start/stop of the vaccum when a machine is attached to it? I saw in another video that there seems to be a significant delay until the vaccum starts and stops. Also, is it true that you need to empty the water every time you want to use the floor vaccum if you also use it with a machine attached at the top? Thanks!
@@Danielss0n I don't find the delay too significant. Maybe 1-2 seconds? As for the water then yes, you need to empty it before using the regular vaccum. But I tend to use the vaccum option on top even if I'm sanding or vaccuming the floor. You don't have to empty the water if you're using the option on top.
Just bought this machine and it seems like they've addressed some of the issues outlined in this video. The paddle now varies the speed and it also retains the speed setting after it is powered off.
I've been following these off branded mirka's for some time now. I was trying to find a US version that gives a 120v but I'm still sceptical to what to purchase. I can't seem to pull the trigger.... Help
Can't rely on a Mirka Deros?? We've been using about 8 machines for more then 7 years. We use them every workday about 6 hours per day full power. The engine is an absolute beast! Fibration is minimal, you don't have these tintling hands after hours of sanding and it's very lightweight. I'm amazed how reliable these machines are. Yes parts wear out overtime with this much use, but you can replace every part and we are still using them. Over 7 years only 1 of them is out of service, but we used parts of this one for the other machines. Absolutely love this machine! I'm not saying other brands are bad, we've tested some in the past, but they all failed already. Can't say about Pela either, don't have the experience. But if you can afford the money on a Mirka Deros, go for it! You'll love it!
Hi. Was wondering if you still use this machine after a year and how it has been using it. I'm also on the hunt for a new sander and was looking for a Makita 6050J but the one you tested looks pretty solid to me as well. Thanks
Good first impression review, but man, that looks cold! I've also been tempted to get the Mirka Deros due to so many UA-camrs using it, if so many are using it it must be good, right!? Yeah, one should of course always do the research before buying, especially something this expensive!
Realy interesting test. I'm looking too by the Festool rotex and this got me thinking that it could possible exist machines with the same features as the rotex fore alott less money. I haven't found an yet. If you know any please let me know. Thanks for great videos.
Jesper, the only other direct driven random orbital sanders I know of are the Bosch Professional GET series. Bosch actually invented that type of sander, Festool came out with the Rotex to compete with the first generation of the Bosch sanders. I think the current Bosch GET machines is their second generation, and in every single test I've seen, the Bosch is better than the Festool Rotex, in pretty much every way. And, the Bosch machines are less expensive, get less hot, sand better and faster and seem a lot easier to control in direct drive mode.
@@jesper7666 Varsegod! Gör det! Jag lutar starkt åt en GET75-150 själv till mitt båtbygge, men lite fundersam på om den är lite väl stor och tung (2,7kg typ). De har ju två lägen, normal och turbo (turbo läget är direktdrivet), men vet inte hur bra den är till slutfinish ändå. Kan vara så att en Bosch Professional GET 12V-125 är ett perfekt komplement, liten, lätt och smidig och jag har redan deras 12V system. Jag har mest använt tryckluftsdrivna excenterslipar innan, framförallt Mirka och 3Ms, när jag jobbat med komposit och metall professionellt, men vet inte om min kompressor alls skulle orka med en sådan :)
Hi fellow swede, thanks for the honest and thorough review. A question, does this one save the latest used sanding speed when you switch it off (on the button, not lever) or does it always default back to a (the lowest?) speed setting after a restart?
Kinda interesting you mention that a 125 mm fitrs on this machine. Talked with the seller and they claim it won't work. I was a bit surprised. They also claim forgive me for using swedish here "Nej, detta är ingen excenterslip eftersom den inte är oscillerande." What's your opinion about that part?
Hey! Interesting. I haven't yet tried to attach a 125mm pad since I don't have it yet, but according to my research it should work just fine with a Mirka style 125 backing pad. I know others have done just that with the same machine from another brand. As for the oscillating part - it says "oscillerande enhandsslipmaskin" on the product page - and I am pretty sure about that part :)
3 månader in, hur känns maskinen, är du nöjd med den? Funderar själv starkt över att köpa den så hade velat veta vad du tycker är bra/ dåligt med maskinen😁
Hej! Missade helt svara. Fortfarande riktigt nöjd. Generellt gillar jag inte spaken, jag hade hellre sett en av och på-knapp. Annat än det fungerar den perfekt!
@@TheSwedishMaker Det är inte alla som gillar en sådan spak och det är nog en vanesak. Jag har varit j kontakt med Verktygsboden och de säger att sladden endast är 210cm😔, frågan är då om det är olika kvaliteter och delar på maskinen från tillverkaren🤔
dont ever buy the deros, have gone threw 4-5 of them and i eeven tryde having just the sander for super nice work, but they just never lasted more then a few hours and then the needed repair until the warrenty when out. and then they sayd it wasnt worth the repair, pls buy a new one, so now they are in the garbage can, and the company refuses to agnolege that they have heard about the problem.
Mirka is better. Cheaper blatant Chinese copies will be false economy, flawed and not a reliable long term proposition. They seem to work well but have no variable trigger control and there are many reports of unreliability. In a nutshell you have three alternatives for the best low profile lightweight 150mm sander design which are Mirka, the Metabo or the new 3M sanders.
A note worthy to anyone considering this sander: I bought the Sealey version and it comes with the extraction hose. The Sealay version also holds the setting memory and the paddle varies the speed rather than just on/off. A very sturdy sander which is well balanced, I assume much like the version in this video.
I got the combo including the PELA sander + vaccum with 3-stage filtration. I'm super happy with my purchase. Insane value in my opinion.
Nice! I wanted to get that but I missed the offer on both of them :) Happy to hear others are of the same opinion.
Hi John, I'm interested in the same combo, how do you find the auto start/stop of the vaccum when a machine is attached to it? I saw in another video that there seems to be a significant delay until the vaccum starts and stops. Also, is it true that you need to empty the water every time you want to use the floor vaccum if you also use it with a machine attached at the top? Thanks!
@@Danielss0n I don't find the delay too significant. Maybe 1-2 seconds? As for the water then yes, you need to empty it before using the regular vaccum. But I tend to use the vaccum option on top even if I'm sanding or vaccuming the floor. You don't have to empty the water if you're using the option on top.
@@biffrov Thanks for the reply! :)
@@biffrov could you do a video of both please can't find any about the pair thanks
Great review. Thanks for this. I may have to consider one of these.
Just bought this machine and it seems like they've addressed some of the issues outlined in this video. The paddle now varies the speed and it also retains the speed setting after it is powered off.
Good honest review mate, influencers can’t paint a picture of this is the best but that’s why UA-cam is great to break down the walls 👍👍👍
Thanks! :)
I've been following these off branded mirka's for some time now. I was trying to find a US version that gives a 120v but I'm still sceptical to what to purchase. I can't seem to pull the trigger.... Help
Theres an american version linked in thw description
I own the "Menzer" branded one for half a year now. I do not regret getting it.
I'm looking at that one - does it have a 4 meter cord or a 2 meter one?
Thanks for the video, can you give an update on how it's holding up after two years? Are you satisfied with the quality still?
I really want the Mikra. But wonder if this is worth getting, with the vacuum combo. Im worried bout the vibrations do?
I bought it and I'm very happy with it.
Can't rely on a Mirka Deros?? We've been using about 8 machines for more then 7 years. We use them every workday about 6 hours per day full power. The engine is an absolute beast! Fibration is minimal, you don't have these tintling hands after hours of sanding and it's very lightweight. I'm amazed how reliable these machines are. Yes parts wear out overtime with this much use, but you can replace every part and we are still using them. Over 7 years only 1 of them is out of service, but we used parts of this one for the other machines. Absolutely love this machine! I'm not saying other brands are bad, we've tested some in the past, but they all failed already. Can't say about Pela either, don't have the experience. But if you can afford the money on a Mirka Deros, go for it! You'll love it!
Awesome review. 2 years later, are you still using the sander?
Hi. Was wondering if you still use this machine after a year and how it has been using it. I'm also on the hunt for a new sander and was looking for a Makita 6050J but the one you tested looks pretty solid to me as well. Thanks
How is the vibration on it? :)
Dude? How cold is your shop, I'm in Canada and you're making me chilly
it is very cold :)
Are they the same weight as a mirka?
literally in the first minute...
Good first impression review, but man, that looks cold!
I've also been tempted to get the Mirka Deros due to so many UA-camrs using it, if so many are using it it must be good, right!?
Yeah, one should of course always do the research before buying, especially something this expensive!
Thanks! I'll be interested to see how it holds up over time now :)
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Realy interesting test. I'm looking too by the Festool rotex and this got me thinking that it could possible exist machines with the same features as the rotex fore alott less money.
I haven't found an yet. If you know any please let me know.
Thanks for great videos.
Jesper, the only other direct driven random orbital sanders I know of are the Bosch Professional GET series. Bosch actually invented that type of sander, Festool came out with the Rotex to compete with the first generation of the Bosch sanders. I think the current Bosch GET machines is their second generation, and in every single test I've seen, the Bosch is better than the Festool Rotex, in pretty much every way. And, the Bosch machines are less expensive, get less hot, sand better and faster and seem a lot easier to control in direct drive mode.
@@Robinlarsson83 tack för bra information. Ska absolut kolla upp bosch GET
@@jesper7666 Varsegod! Gör det! Jag lutar starkt åt en GET75-150 själv till mitt båtbygge, men lite fundersam på om den är lite väl stor och tung (2,7kg typ). De har ju två lägen, normal och turbo (turbo läget är direktdrivet), men vet inte hur bra den är till slutfinish ändå.
Kan vara så att en Bosch Professional GET 12V-125 är ett perfekt komplement, liten, lätt och smidig och jag har redan deras 12V system.
Jag har mest använt tryckluftsdrivna excenterslipar innan, framförallt Mirka och 3Ms, när jag jobbat med komposit och metall professionellt, men vet inte om min kompressor alls skulle orka med en sådan :)
Wish the Menzer was sold in the US
Looks like all the Chinese copies have no warranty
Maybe I’ll get the SPTA on amazon + amazon 4yr warranty for $45
Använder du den fortfarande, håller den ?
Såg i nyare video att du har en festool, så antar att den inte håller .
Hi fellow swede, thanks for the honest and thorough review. A question, does this one save the latest used sanding speed when you switch it off (on the button, not lever) or does it always default back to a (the lowest?) speed setting after a restart?
Hi! It resets to the lowest setting if the machine is completely turned off. I havent been bothered by it though. :)
@@TheSwedishMaker thank you!
Kinda interesting you mention that a 125 mm fitrs on this machine. Talked with the seller and they claim it won't work. I was a bit surprised.
They also claim forgive me for using swedish here "Nej, detta är ingen excenterslip eftersom den inte är oscillerande." What's your opinion about that part?
Hey! Interesting. I haven't yet tried to attach a 125mm pad since I don't have it yet, but according to my research it should work just fine with a Mirka style 125 backing pad. I know others have done just that with the same machine from another brand. As for the oscillating part - it says "oscillerande enhandsslipmaskin" on the product page - and I am pretty sure about that part :)
3 månader in, hur känns maskinen, är du nöjd med den?
Funderar själv starkt över att köpa den så hade velat veta vad du tycker är bra/ dåligt med maskinen😁
Hej! Missade helt svara. Fortfarande riktigt nöjd. Generellt gillar jag inte spaken, jag hade hellre sett en av och på-knapp. Annat än det fungerar den perfekt!
@@TheSwedishMaker Det är inte alla som gillar en sådan spak och det är nog en vanesak.
Jag har varit j kontakt med Verktygsboden och de säger att sladden endast är 210cm😔, frågan är då om det är olika kvaliteter och delar på maskinen från tillverkaren🤔
My Mirka has been sent in to fix twice in a year hence y I’m here
dont ever buy the deros, have gone threw 4-5 of them and i eeven tryde having just the sander for super nice work, but they just never lasted more then a few hours and then the needed repair until the warrenty when out. and then they sayd it wasnt worth the repair, pls buy a new one,
so now they are in the garbage can, and the company refuses to agnolege that they have heard about the problem.
if it is sold in EU than it has 2 year warranty...
With no Mirka, there would be no Mzener crap so Id keep buying the genuine brands
Mirka is better. Cheaper blatant Chinese copies will be false economy, flawed and not a reliable long term proposition. They seem to work well but have no variable trigger control and there are many reports of unreliability. In a nutshell you have three alternatives for the best low profile lightweight 150mm sander design which are Mirka, the Metabo or the new 3M sanders.