Jean Meslier

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  • Опубліковано 23 гру 2024

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  • @valerielhw
    @valerielhw Рік тому +3

    Light-years ahead of his time!

  • @sohu86x
    @sohu86x Місяць тому

    Being a pastor who has deconstructed, I'd love to hear how he remained a priest while holding these thoughts.

  • @craigtimmons6907
    @craigtimmons6907 4 роки тому +4

    I scored a copy of the English full translation used. It's great. If you can catch one cheap, grab it.

  • @sajitdaniel
    @sajitdaniel 5 років тому +8

    The first profound Atheist was a priest !! How strange is reality !!

    • @methodius8472
      @methodius8472 4 роки тому +8

      @Daniel Isaac
      The Charvaka philosophy originated in India about 2,600 years ago. It promotes a materialistic, scientific, empirical, and atheistic world view, the Charvaka philosophy even predates Jainism and Buddhism. The Charvaka philosophy is unique, it developed as its own philosophy (independent of Hindu scriptures, or ideas of Hinduism in general), the ideas in the Charvaka philosophy were its own. It harshly criticizes the Vedas (Hindu scriptures), the Brahmins (priests), denied the existence of god (or gods), promotes a type of early scientific inquiry, and even mocks the Vedas and Brahmins. The Charvaka philosophy was a major enemy of Buddhism, Jainism, and Hinduism. It ruthlessly refuted Buddhist ideas, and it gave the same treatment to Jainist and Hindu ideas. The Brhaspati Sutra is the foundational text of the Charvaka philosophy, unfortunately, it has been lost. Ajita Kesakambali was one of the main proponents of Charvaka philosophy, his text still survives. Interestingly enough, it’s rhetoric (Charvaka) is quite similar to how Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens speak about religion or the god concept, which is to say, not tolerant to primitive ideas at all. To put it simply: the Charvaka philosophy is possibly the earliest documentation of atheism, it was atheistic and even anti-theistic in its ideas.

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime 2 роки тому +2

      Leaving aside that he couldn't literally have been the first, I don't think it's strange in context. Back then a lot of people who had access to philosophical and scientific works also had some sort of theological background. What's more unusual is that he was a *village* priest, the sort of person who wasn't expected to be widely read.

    • @dionysos334
      @dionysos334 2 роки тому

      Not the first by far.
      De loin vraiment pas le premier.
      Personnage très intéressant.

    • @noname-by3qz
      @noname-by3qz Рік тому

      ​@methodicalintellect8472
      Very interesting but I'm confused because Buddhists don't talk about god.

    • @noname-by3qz
      @noname-by3qz Рік тому

      Who said he was the first? Definitely not!

  • @noname-by3qz
    @noname-by3qz 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this!

  • @troy3456789
    @troy3456789 5 років тому +7

    One WISE man.

  • @noname-by3qz
    @noname-by3qz Рік тому +1

    I can't imagine a more well written thesis!😅

  • @noname-by3qz
    @noname-by3qz 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent writer

  • @metatron4890
    @metatron4890 6 років тому +2

    Which volume is he reading from?

    • @DavidErdody
      @DavidErdody  6 років тому +3

      Vol 9: The Age of Voltaire (p611 start)

    • @metatron4890
      @metatron4890 6 років тому +1

      thank you!

    • @noname-by3qz
      @noname-by3qz 2 роки тому

      @@DavidErdody
      That's Meslier's book?

    • @IsmailofeRegime
      @IsmailofeRegime Рік тому

      @@noname-by3qz No, "The Age of Voltaire" was one of the volumes in Will Durant's Story of Civilization series. Durant discusses Meslier a bit in that volume. Meslier's book is often referred to in English as his "Testament." It was translated back in 2008 or so by Michael Shreve.

  • @RPe-jk6dv
    @RPe-jk6dv 2 роки тому

    no freedom is possible without property.

  • @theID2
    @theID2 Рік тому +1