@@willm984 More so because of all the yard sales. Regardless, skiing is way harder once you get into this type of stuff in my opinion so yes they do fall more.
Back in 93 my friend and I camped out in the bowl hoping to get an early start and a bunch of runs. Instead we helped to carry out a skier with a compound fracture. That is is not the place to get hurt. It took us a while just to get him to the hojo. I must add I have had some great times up there.
yep....was there back in early 90's.....I fell down that hill a few times....yard sale at the bottom. You know you tumbled good when your gloves come off... :-)
People seem to forget that the out-run from a cliff can be pretty dangerous. Being able to ride it out is part of hucking cliffs and is an important skill to be learned before hitting places like tuckerman's... which has a long and choppy out-run. This video is an example of how to really hurt yourself. Epic crashes though.
At the time of year when everybody hikes up to the Ravine, the snow is pretty much like mashed potatoes. you climb early morning so you can get a foot hold...the previous days footsteps are like a staircase...by by mid morning, it's mashed potatoes and hard to ski well. Even great skiers look like dweebs when skiing in it. However, it's a worthy Spring ritual.
@@nathankovach7414 Awesome - thanks for the beta! I truly can't complain, as I've already "had my time in the sun" there many years ago with only a few minor regrets over bucket list ski runs in Tucks and some alpine gully climbs in Huntington left undone - but the stoke will never die! ✊🤩Hoping you can get there this Spring, making lots of great lifelong memories while you still can, staying safe and always staying totally stoked! ATVB 🐀
Because the snow on Tucks in March is like mash potatoes. Its only at 5,000 something feet-if that. Making a huge GS turn at MACH 1 is bad juju...haha.
@vibratingstring HMMM, come out west and cut your teeth on peaks between 12-14,000ft with real no fall zones. Then go to Alaska for a few springs. Circle back and let me know how it goes.
I grew up skiing but switched to boarding soon after. So I can't attest to this myself but it seems that at that speed, on skis it would be harder to slow down than if on a snowboard. Although mid thought I get the feeling that it would be so so scary to try and make the smallest carve in attempt to slow yourself at that speed on any instrument.. yeesh...i cringe. But its not enough to keep me away lol
It's all about the fun with 1 couple thousand of your closest friends, trying stuff that you just cannot try anywhere else in the East, and having a total blast even in your fails!
In many years back then there was a waterfall just right of the center of the Headwall. Unfortunately, a few skiers forgot where they were and ended up coming over the lip at that waterfall ans disappeared into the crevasse.
haha try 10yard jump Dude, with a landing so steep it out o site,,, really need to climb up there and look at it to understand how steep that is, pictures can't do it justice,,, mad props to all those leapers those guys arr frigg'n nuts
@cashmab haha. thats because this stuff is so steep, its on the verge of free falling once you land and try to ski it. this video really doesn't capture how steep this thing is. you should see climbing up the thing. if you stand up straight on a little ledge, your shoulder is almost touching the slope :O some scary stuff.
No, you would not destroy the ice fields of Cannon. I know dozens upon dozens of people that come from out West (both for racing and freeskiing) that get destroyed by the ice. USSA and FIS points don't lie. People that are "hardcore" in racing out West struggle here in the East. As for freeskiing there is really no point system, but I've met a handful of kids that go to academies around here for freestyle (Burke, WVA, CVA) that have come from places like Vail and Mammoth and can't handle the ice
I probably misread your comment, but there is a points system for Freeride, AKA Big Mountain, and I know this as it is what I compete in. You get judged on Style, Fluidity, Technique, control and Line Choice. You can get a maximum of 50 points, but it is very rare to see someone surpass 38,
Any one who thinks landing that and staying up is easy has likely never been there. Landing on about 50-degree slope of choppy, soft snow already doing about 30-40MPH is no small feat. Most of you would sh*t your pants standing atop the Headwall, much less those drops/ledges. Trust me, this is one of the most humbling places you will ever ski or ride, once you are actually on it. Riding over The Lip feels like riding over a cliff. And only way there is one step at a time...
The landing on something that steep puts you barely in control of anything, and once your skis are pointed downhill, you accelerate like mad, so making a turn is damned difficult.
What the hell arr you talk'n about? The one boarder jump was totally cut on the landing or crashing, like the editor didn't even care about the rider who got there on a board,,, but seriously all those jumps Rocked, props to all,,, next time please finish the boarders session, really wish I coulda seen his land/crash/whatever~ ☼;(
Not having a lift has saved countless lives!
thanks for skipping every snowboard run but giving us every last tumble of the skiiers
Skiing wipe outs are much better.
@@coleholden8241 True, I’d rather watch skiers tumble down the mountain any day 😂
because the skiiers fall more
@@willm984 More so because of all the yard sales. Regardless, skiing is way harder once you get into this type of stuff in my opinion so yes they do fall more.
@@coleholden8241 nice bro
Back in 93 my friend and I camped out in the bowl hoping to get an early start and a bunch of runs. Instead we helped to carry out a skier with a compound fracture. That is is not the place to get hurt. It took us a while just to get him to the hojo. I must add I have had some great times up there.
yep....was there back in early 90's.....I fell down that hill a few times....yard sale at the bottom. You know you tumbled good when your gloves come off... :-)
People seem to forget that the out-run from a cliff can be pretty dangerous. Being able to ride it out is part of hucking cliffs and is an important skill to be learned before hitting places like tuckerman's... which has a long and choppy out-run. This video is an example of how to really hurt yourself. Epic crashes though.
Anyone can jump, the landing is the tricky part
great video... but all the snowboarders are cut out??
Tuckerman's Ravine is like the Giants Stadium of skiing haha, listen to the crowd!
*Chavez Ravine 💙
Solid lineup of Jerrys
So much crazier than it looks....and it looks crazy
At the time of year when everybody hikes up to the Ravine, the snow is pretty much like mashed potatoes. you climb early morning so you can get a foot hold...the previous days footsteps are like a staircase...by by mid morning, it's mashed potatoes and hard to ski well. Even great skiers look like dweebs when skiing in it. However, it's a worthy Spring ritual.
Anyone else watching this 15+ years later?
Absolutely! Tucks 4 ever, baby. 😛⛏🎿
@@northwoodsrat6686 real. This spring is looking good for Tucks!
@@nathankovach7414 Awesome - thanks for the beta! I truly can't complain, as I've already "had my time in the sun" there many years ago with only a few minor regrets over bucket list ski runs in Tucks and some alpine gully climbs in Huntington left undone - but the stoke will never die! ✊🤩Hoping you can get there this Spring, making lots of great lifelong memories while you still can, staying safe and always staying totally stoked! ATVB 🐀
Because the snow on Tucks in March is like mash potatoes. Its only at 5,000 something feet-if that. Making a huge GS turn at MACH 1 is bad juju...haha.
Man those east coast skiers are so extreme! COMICAL!
lets see you rip tucks lol
@@kosycat1 Why would I come out there to ski a short, semi- steep face with typically shitty snow?
@vibratingstring HMMM, come out west and cut your teeth on peaks between 12-14,000ft with real no fall zones. Then go to
Alaska for a few springs. Circle back and let me know how it goes.
0:39 "The thrill of victory....and the agony of defeat"
I grew up skiing but switched to boarding soon after. So I can't attest to this myself but it seems that at that speed, on skis it would be harder to slow down than if on a snowboard. Although mid thought I get the feeling that it would be so so scary to try and make the smallest carve in attempt to slow yourself at that speed on any instrument.. yeesh...i cringe. But its not enough to keep me away lol
I read here where someone said it's not about skiing, the video proves that beyond any doubt.
It's all about the fun with 1 couple thousand of your closest friends, trying stuff that you just cannot try anywhere else in the East, and having a total blast even in your fails!
Whats a knuckle dragger? Doesn't sound like a skier or a snowboaarder... is there something up there we don't know about!
My Dad this in the 1940’s , and at that time, sometimes there was a crevasse above the headwalll, and skiers just disappeared.
In many years back then there was a waterfall just right of the center of the Headwall. Unfortunately, a few skiers forgot where they were and ended up coming over the lip at that waterfall ans disappeared into the crevasse.
22 year old Cheryl Weingarten from New York (5/1/94) - R.I.P.
Did the two knuckledraggers land their jumps? Why the edits? I was hoping to see if they made it or not.
@petebanta I skied Tuck's for the first time yesterday and completely agree with everything you said. Not hard to tell who's who, and who the boss is.
@cashmab its not the 10' drop, its the steepness of it.
Were they all drinking before the start?
yes
That first recovery.
And it has nothing to do with the skiing at Tuckerman Ravine. It's all about getting hammered and enjoying the day. The vibe up there is legendary.
I blew 4 knee ligaments and tore a meniscus just watching this video.
Why to cut snowboarders out, dude?
The last guy stuck the sickest line.
Yeah the line was crazy
going wayyy to fast for those conditions!
Do you have anymore video form this day? I saw some friends in this video.
Lot of people there were going "Wide World of Sports" on us!
The dopest run was the snowboarder and you guys cut off his landing
I've never seen so much carnage off of one 10' drop.
haha try 10yard jump Dude, with a landing so steep it out o site,,, really need to climb up there and look at it to understand how steep that is, pictures can't do it justice,,, mad props to all those leapers those guys arr frigg'n nuts
You couldn’t be any more correct swell rider.
@@swellrider126 Fred obviously doesn't understand that the snow up near the top can at time approach 70 degrees angle!
seems like the filmer doesn't like snowboarders :)
Going for a death-ride while in the back seat looks a whole lot less fun than just making some giant Scott Schmidt turns. I don't get it.
@cashmab haha. thats because this stuff is so steep, its on the verge of free falling once you land and try to ski it. this video really doesn't capture how steep this thing is. you should see climbing up the thing. if you stand up straight on a little ledge, your shoulder is almost touching the slope :O some scary stuff.
Liam Gove not as steep as west basin here at taos
@@hibrother6764 this is up to 55 degrees. pretty sure that is steeper than taos
@@chudmuffin0 And at times it can get up to about 70 degrees in places!
His skies don't have breaks it seems.
20 ft. drop to hard pack, awesome.
Is it now "hip" to not turn?
Humans are funny creatures. If this isn't free will, I don't know what is.
where exactly is this??
Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.
I'm still confused by as to why he started the pissing match :p
love the crowd :41 ...its like the olympics...HAHA
dude your slush is our powder
the crowd sounds like a freaking game, bad falls some of them though!
how come none of them turn??
For the same reason that pigs don't fly.
Just went riding there yesterday, epic even in June!!!
:35, hahaha holy shit what a wipe out. That was epic!
seems the filmer doesn't like snowboarders :)
34-48 ahahaha that looked like it hurt though
People love watching people fall
@MrColinMon Yeah, I wasn't trying to be sensical. See the comment that I was replying too, my comment was sarcasm.
No, you would not destroy the ice fields of Cannon. I know dozens upon dozens of people that come from out West (both for racing and freeskiing) that get destroyed by the ice. USSA and FIS points don't lie. People that are "hardcore" in racing out West struggle here in the East. As for freeskiing there is really no point system, but I've met a handful of kids that go to academies around here for freestyle (Burke, WVA, CVA) that have come from places like Vail and Mammoth and can't handle the ice
I probably misread your comment, but there is a points system for Freeride, AKA Big Mountain, and I know this as it is what I compete in. You get judged on Style, Fluidity, Technique, control and Line Choice. You can get a maximum of 50 points, but it is very rare to see someone surpass 38,
probably because its spring and the snow is rough
i climed it and made it down without injury in 1970. i dont think i could do it today.
Skied there many time on the late '60's and early 70's. No way would my legs make that climb now!
@CTskiier people dont have/need fat skis in new england. you need race skis with some mighty edge to ski in newengland
whats the hardest part of being a skiier ...... telling your parents your gay!!!!!!
Any one who thinks landing that and staying up is easy has likely never been there. Landing on about 50-degree slope of choppy, soft snow already doing about 30-40MPH is no small feat. Most of you would sh*t your pants standing atop the Headwall, much less those drops/ledges. Trust me, this is one of the most humbling places you will ever ski or ride, once you are actually on it. Riding over The Lip feels like riding over a cliff. And only way there is one step at a time...
I love watching the wipeouts!!!!!!
Luckily, he was able to break his fall with his face.
I'd think I'd rather ski a honey bucket.
@nysurf18 no problem man
Why do so many people fucking straight line after they clear it?
The landing on something that steep puts you barely in control of anything, and once your skis are pointed downhill, you accelerate like mad, so making a turn is damned difficult.
It is hilarious that people out east think that this hill is steep.
50-degrees something not steep?
And the Lip can sometimes get up to about 70 degrees in places.
50 degrees is the same in Colorado as it is in New Hampshire dude. I ski colorado...this place is still the real deal...
way to skip the snowboarders LAME
on a snowboard it would be so much easier.
A lot of these people should not be skiing stuff this advanced
omg
@MATTDUBS100 LMAO, yeah and there's no snowlerbladers either. This video is clearly not worth watching.
definitely edited by a boarder
What the hell arr you talk'n about? The one boarder jump was totally cut on the landing or crashing, like the editor didn't even care about the rider who got there on a board,,, but seriously all those jumps Rocked, props to all,,, next time please finish the boarders session, really wish I coulda seen his land/crash/whatever~ ☼;(
@nysurf18 or maybe its because snow boarders ruin the mountain and no one wants to watch them do it
Nah...I know what I know. I just don't want to waste my time getting into a pissing match with an obvious 9 year old...I'm out of this. have fun kid.
#easternskiers #scrubs
Winter Phoenix
#easternskiers #20degreeblackdiamonds
Winter Phoenix
Haha. What a joke you are. Wanna see a picture of what it looks like on top of a real double black?
east coasters suck at cliffs
Winter Phoenix yeah the coasts are even worse!
You come out and try it sometime.
Lol whoa, ten years later!
@@warrenfunk And?
So much has changed in ten years. Except east coasters sucking at skiing, that will never change
so lame
Dope