We have GE's newest MRI machines and software that utilize AI to expedite sequences and exams. It doesn't add or take away anything from the images, it cleans up the noise so there is more signal and you can run much lower NEX and higher bandwidth. The images are incredible and the lower times eases patient anxiety. i.e. 25-30 min head turns into 10-15 minutes.
No, more like predicts* with a high level of certainty. At the resolution this inference is happening, it is more akin to something like image upscaling or denoising rather than image generation. This already happens when you’re talking on the phone for example, if there was some data loss, we can fill in (or take out, in case of noise suppression), gaps in data, which isn’t making up data, since we know with a very high degree of certainty what kind of data makes sense to be there, this makes for faster transcoding. Our brain works in a similar way, a lot of our vision is filled in by our brain, even in the case of moving objects, our brain can ‘infer the pixels’ motion and predict the objects visuals before the photons actually hit our eyeballs. You can notice this by sometimes when you’re looking for your keys and at the first pass you see an empty table, but in closer inspect your keys magically appear where you just looked a minute ago. But we know to train our models to not hallucinate as bad as our brains.
@@timothydana2726 The iterative learning of AI algorithms will allow more data to be fed into the AI system and resultingly lead to an enhancement of clarity and quality.
is the scan as accurate or more accurate than tradition MRI imaging? this is the major concern for AI being involved. if it causes a statistical difference in image quality its a cause for concern. id like to see these doctors & META making this data openly available to the public through something like PUBMED or anything really.
mind you i did see the doctor pointing at the image comparison stating the AI removed noise. but that doesnt necessarily prove it is as accurate or more accurate overall
Traditional MRI is pretty accurate as is already. AI cleans up the image from noise and in turn boosts signal. Regards to AI creating inaccuracies, the raw data is still preserved. On the Siemens platform at least, you can always refer back to the raw data if the radiologist encounters unusual artefacts on the image. Even then, the image protocols cover a variety of sequences and planes, which they can confidently rule it out as such artefacts. It would be extremely unlikely to appear on all the series of images. Also to note not all sequences can be reconstructed via AI (yet), so they can also be a reliable indicator of AI generated false negative/positives.
@funkyseefunkydo good to know, there are lots of ways it seems to utilize AI incorrectly and making sure we use it without leaving room for error is the key to expanding on the many industries it can support.
Without knowing too much of the software, I imagine it could be a problem if a tumor perhaps is really small, that the denoising feature is removing it because it thinks it is an artifact. But for larger features it should not be a problem.
@@BrandnyNikes This is what I was thinking!! It might remove something that is important, I don't trust it and hope they keep the original even if they're using the AI too, just in case to compare.
So great! I hope they get it in Australia. My scans are 1 hr ( Have one tomorrow) for a tumor, fibrous dysplasia left femur (unicameral) with contrast 🤦♀️
I remember when Organic produce was introduced and they were saying that the prices were higher but with more adoption of it by more people the prices would indeed go down. 🙂Still waiting…
Only had an MRI once, well twice actually when the first images were somehow corrupted. And it lasted roughly 20 minutes, but was for my shoulder so my head was right in the machine without any sticking out and yeah there's a level of anxiety there I didn't realize I had. I quickly found out that closing my eyes so I didn't realize how tight the area is did help a lot, and like the woman says just day dream and take your mind somewhere else. Having something to speed up this process would be fantastic though, just so long as it's not creating false data by extrapolating what it believes things should look like.
Ge also introduced ADL DEEP LEARNING SOFTWARE IN INDIA I AM ALSO WORKING ON ITS THE SCAN TIME OF MRI KNEE WITH IN 10 MIN MAXIMUM AND NEX VALUE SHOULD BE PALCE NEA 1 OR .05 VALUE ITS AMAZING QUALITY OR HIGHLY Filter IMAGES
I can see the difference, but clinically, what does it mean? Now you have a computer doing more processing of an image. Can it help in making a better diagnosis or can it increase the risk of misdiagnosis because the AI is enhancing an image in a way that does not correspond to the real physiological state of the patient? I think the diagnosis from both images would be the same. As an analogy, consider that wearing yellow lens glasses on a cloudy day helps most people see better. But wearing coloured lenses also distorts our colour perception -- even on a black and white image -- as someone who used to used black and white film will tell you. I wish the report explained how these improvements are being made. For example, is it using an interpolation algorithm?
It denoises the image. It does not add anything - like in your analogy with the lenses, where you would add a layer of colour, which would in turn remove some of the light.
They mention that it's 'faster' and has 'clearer images' but both of those are very much runners up to the most important quality, ACCURACY. Let's be clear, this is functioning by filling in gaps in the data so it looks better, but is that compromising accuracy? Are potentially vital health indications getting scrubbed out as noise? Seems odd that the question of accuracy is never addressed.
Rich people now have the choice of expensive, older, slower MRI healthcare or the super-expensive, newer AI, faster MRI healthcare! Yay rich people have choices finally!
The video said A.I. MRI was standard and no additional cost. There is enough about medical inequality to complain about you don't have to make stuff up.
@@georgebush6002 Just here and now. Wait until it gets out into the hospitals and doctors offices across the country and access is controlled by HMOs. I won't be wrong
I do not know where you live at but the typical MRI here in Florida without insurance is $250-$500 depending on the body part, if you have insurance it cost typically nothing and if you do not have the cash to pay upfront most MRI places have payments plans. I don't think that is expensive or just for rich people specially for something that can save your life.
So if you plan to be an MRI specialist. Well, might look into another career. AI is going to wipe this country out. It will put enough people out of work that will lead to collapse.
@@Manwith6secondmemory Good point. Good point. Besides after the bazaar pandemic and those "required shots", perhaps its not such a good idea to go into aushawitz medical anyway.
It's actually more work AI is the software the tech still has to set landmarks put the patient into the machine do the IVs an contrast so no not job but making it as quick as fast food
@@4amhussle492 if other countries are able to provide cheap reliable healthcare with advances in AI technology, the only thing preventing us from similar adoption is the Americans healthcare industry’s absolute love of profit and hate of inefficiency. But this time, the very shortcoming of our healthcare system will be oh so apparent
I get one every year (45 minutes - 1 hour) due to a brain tumor, hope this will make the scan time go by a lot faster!
We have GE's newest MRI machines and software that utilize AI to expedite sequences and exams. It doesn't add or take away anything from the images, it cleans up the noise so there is more signal and you can run much lower NEX and higher bandwidth. The images are incredible and the lower times eases patient anxiety. i.e. 25-30 min head turns into 10-15 minutes.
Appreciate the info!
This technology is amazing
So the algorithm infers pixels rather than raw data. precise enough i trust
that was my first thought.
not entirely trustworthy but over time it should improve.
Anyway, exams are instruments the doctors use, they dont do Diagnostics
No, more like predicts* with a high level of certainty. At the resolution this inference is happening, it is more akin to something like image upscaling or denoising rather than image generation. This already happens when you’re talking on the phone for example, if there was some data loss, we can fill in (or take out, in case of noise suppression), gaps in data, which isn’t making up data, since we know with a very high degree of certainty what kind of data makes sense to be there, this makes for faster transcoding. Our brain works in a similar way, a lot of our vision is filled in by our brain, even in the case of moving objects, our brain can ‘infer the pixels’ motion and predict the objects visuals before the photons actually hit our eyeballs. You can notice this by sometimes when you’re looking for your keys and at the first pass you see an empty table, but in closer inspect your keys magically appear where you just looked a minute ago. But we know to train our models to not hallucinate as bad as our brains.
@@PrajyotMeshramwhy would time improve the image?
@@timothydana2726 The iterative learning of AI algorithms will allow more data to be fed into the AI system and resultingly lead to an enhancement of clarity and quality.
I was thinking of this to speed up the scans. This should include other scans too. I'm waiting 4 months for a CT scan.
So happy to see this..
Wonder how long it will take for health insurance companies to decide they won’t cover it
The billion dollar question is why hasn’t this doctor been replaced by AI too.
WOW, this is good news!
That’s been around for years; GE pioneered that with AIrecon.
is the scan as accurate or more accurate than tradition MRI imaging? this is the major concern for AI being involved. if it causes a statistical difference in image quality its a cause for concern. id like to see these doctors & META making this data openly available to the public through something like PUBMED or anything really.
mind you i did see the doctor pointing at the image comparison stating the AI removed noise. but that doesnt necessarily prove it is as accurate or more accurate overall
Traditional MRI is pretty accurate as is already. AI cleans up the image from noise and in turn boosts signal. Regards to AI creating inaccuracies, the raw data is still preserved. On the Siemens platform at least, you can always refer back to the raw data if the radiologist encounters unusual artefacts on the image. Even then, the image protocols cover a variety of sequences and planes, which they can confidently rule it out as such artefacts. It would be extremely unlikely to appear on all the series of images. Also to note not all sequences can be reconstructed via AI (yet), so they can also be a reliable indicator of AI generated false negative/positives.
@funkyseefunkydo good to know, there are lots of ways it seems to utilize AI incorrectly and making sure we use it without leaving room for error is the key to expanding on the many industries it can support.
Without knowing too much of the software, I imagine it could be a problem if a tumor perhaps is really small, that the denoising feature is removing it because it thinks it is an artifact. But for larger features it should not be a problem.
@@BrandnyNikes This is what I was thinking!! It might remove something that is important, I don't trust it and hope they keep the original even if they're using the AI too, just in case to compare.
So great! I hope they get it in Australia. My scans are 1 hr ( Have one tomorrow) for a tumor, fibrous dysplasia left femur (unicameral) with contrast 🤦♀️
Glad to see AI is becoming useful.
Will this lower the costs of an MRI scan?
One would hope, given the increased throughput and, presumably, lower operating costs. Yet I wouldn't hold my breath. 🫤
New technology ≠ Lower prices 😕
Increased competition = lower prices 😉
I remember when Organic produce was introduced and they were saying that the prices were higher but with more adoption of it by more people the prices would indeed go down. 🙂Still waiting…
Only had an MRI once, well twice actually when the first images were somehow corrupted. And it lasted roughly 20 minutes, but was for my shoulder so my head was right in the machine without any sticking out and yeah there's a level of anxiety there I didn't realize I had. I quickly found out that closing my eyes so I didn't realize how tight the area is did help a lot, and like the woman says just day dream and take your mind somewhere else. Having something to speed up this process would be fantastic though, just so long as it's not creating false data by extrapolating what it believes things should look like.
Google DeepMind, IBM Watson some of Ai done this for years
Now if only ai could fix my acl
Awesome!
Does this mean our copays are going to be less now?
Ge also introduced ADL DEEP LEARNING SOFTWARE IN INDIA I AM ALSO WORKING ON ITS THE SCAN TIME OF MRI KNEE WITH IN 10 MIN MAXIMUM AND NEX VALUE SHOULD BE PALCE NEA 1 OR .05 VALUE ITS AMAZING QUALITY OR HIGHLY Filter IMAGES
I can see the difference, but clinically, what does it mean? Now you have a computer doing more processing of an image. Can it help in making a better diagnosis or can it increase the risk of misdiagnosis because the AI is enhancing an image in a way that does not correspond to the real physiological state of the patient? I think the diagnosis from both images would be the same.
As an analogy, consider that wearing yellow lens glasses on a cloudy day helps most people see better. But wearing coloured lenses also distorts our colour perception -- even on a black and white image -- as someone who used to used black and white film will tell you. I wish the report explained how these improvements are being made. For example, is it using an interpolation algorithm?
It denoises the image. It does not add anything - like in your analogy with the lenses, where you would add a layer of colour, which would in turn remove some of the light.
So then, costs twice as much?
Scary.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ this is big. Get my money
very nice, too bad fMRI is already taken.
They mention that it's 'faster' and has 'clearer images' but both of those are very much runners up to the most important quality, ACCURACY. Let's be clear, this is functioning by filling in gaps in the data so it looks better, but is that compromising accuracy? Are potentially vital health indications getting scrubbed out as noise? Seems odd that the question of accuracy is never addressed.
this is my best hope for AI technology. Some how we just need guardrails on the dark side.
AI gonna take you're job!!!
So I can now found out an 1 hour earlier that I have a tumor.
, more robotics jobs that create. more jobs will be lost.
Rich people now have the choice of expensive, older, slower MRI healthcare or the super-expensive, newer AI, faster MRI healthcare! Yay rich people have choices finally!
The video said A.I. MRI was standard and no additional cost. There is enough about medical inequality to complain about you don't have to make stuff up.
@@georgebush6002 Just here and now. Wait until it gets out into the hospitals and doctors offices across the country and access is controlled by HMOs. I won't be wrong
I do not know where you live at but the typical MRI here in Florida without insurance is $250-$500 depending on the body part, if you have insurance it cost typically nothing and if you do not have the cash to pay upfront most MRI places have payments plans. I don't think that is expensive or just for rich people specially for something that can save your life.
So if you plan to be an MRI specialist. Well, might look into another career. AI is going to wipe this country out. It will put enough people out of work that will lead to collapse.
Yeah but now we don’t have to pay 500,000 dollars for a MRI scan
@@Manwith6secondmemory Good point. Good point. Besides after the bazaar pandemic and those "required shots", perhaps its not such a good idea to go into aushawitz medical anyway.
It's actually more work AI is the software the tech still has to set landmarks put the patient into the machine do the IVs an contrast so no not job but making it as quick as fast food
@@4amhussle492 if other countries are able to provide cheap reliable healthcare with advances in AI technology, the only thing preventing us from similar adoption is the Americans healthcare industry’s absolute love of profit and hate of inefficiency.
But this time, the very shortcoming of our healthcare system will be oh so apparent
Meta is not doing this for anything good… I’m going to be completely candid that should be highly concerning
Still not putting the criminals in prison and having people recieve good health care
I personally have never had anxiety while having an MRI. I just KNOW that they are a WASTE OF MONEY AND TIME!!