Megnéztük, hol tart a bonchidai Bánffy-kastély felújítása

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  • Опубліковано 6 жов 2020
  • Húsz éve kezdte el Erdély legnagyobb főúri rezidenciájának, a bonchidai Bánffy-kastélynak a felújítását a Transylvania Trust Alapítvány. A kastély múltjáról, jelenéről és jövőjéről az alapítvány elnökével, Hegedüs Csillával beszélgettünk, a kastélyban sétálva.

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  • @tibornovak4659
    @tibornovak4659 3 роки тому +5

    Ezt nézve még jobban fáj minden, ami történt....:(

  • @robiredford6062
    @robiredford6062 3 роки тому +6

    Nem csak elorozták tőlünk ingyen, de még hagyják is lerohadni. Azzal aláznak bennünket tovább, - és használnak ki - hogy még a felújítást is nekünk kell fedezni.
    Pokolfajzatok. Nem mondom ki, hogy mit érdemelnének kultúra helyett.

    • @ildikomakany3522
      @ildikomakany3522 3 роки тому +3

      Az a jó, hogy már van rá szándék is, fedezet is, hogy valami elinduljon. Köszönjük azoknak, akik felvállalták!

  • @mariuszbrezoczki1041
    @mariuszbrezoczki1041 3 роки тому +5

    Sajnos ami magyar jellegű épület mehet a levesbe tele Erdélyben tele sok szép ilyen épület romokban hever

  • @imredunai9472
    @imredunai9472 3 роки тому +8

    Mikor fogják ezeket a kastélyokat vissza adni jogos tulajdonosaiknak. A vagyonaikal együtt, amit évszázadok alatt teremtettek meg!

    • @viktorcsanyi726
      @viktorcsanyi726 3 роки тому

      Tudtommal visszadja őket a román állam. A törcsvári kastélyt vagy a zsibói Wesselényi kastélyt is visszaadták például, de az örökösök aztán továbbadták, mert nem volt pénz a felújításra. Ezt a bonchidai kastélyt 2001-ben perelte vissza a Marokkóban élő leszármazott, Bánffy Katalin. A Transylvania Trustnál 2007 óta a hasznosítás koncessziója van.

    • @niaroma2375
      @niaroma2375 2 роки тому +2

      WOW
      Hungarians when took Transylvania from Romania during ww2 as getting influence strength to receive it from Hitler itself, you don't wanna know what happen to romanians/jews and to what they had to suffer during ww2 in Transylvania, to don't speak about the amount of people which been forced to leave those lands and have 0 rights to speak Romanian, amount of romanians killed by mistake or intentional hate, amount of stuffs they may lost. I know that most of hungarians received most of the heritage back.
      There is much is happening in Romania, including anti national moves and politics which aim only towards minorities and not to build politics for every citizen of Romania.
      For exemple UDMR mission is to do politics and make moves towards the minorities which vote them, is hard for UDMR to receive pure nationality votes(speaking of pure romanians), i as a non speaker of hungarian will never feel represented or respected by a segregation political party which holds as symbol the colours of hungary and do politics based on ethnicity. I am young 24, live in Satu-Mare, and my ideology tells me that no mather of ethnicity we should have only political parties which are truely at origins for the good of Romanian citizens and the integrity of our country as it it's . We don't misrespect people with magyar ethnicity, they are equal and more than welcome to feel romanians and celebrate the romanians national day ( as far as i know they live here, grow here, had free acces to keep traditions/education/freedom of speach(unless it wouldn't be anti national and pro Hungary identity only). I can see a few stuffs in Romania, we never have a strong political right side political organisation. UDMR was once in left side/ once in right side, it always just attempt to follow the power, no mather of consequences ( those consequences send our politics to brake economy, sometimes to break the power of change. I am not stupid and i know that UDMR is constantly aiming for ethnicity votes by segregation, such a political party will not be for long in Romania.
      Then all my recommandations for those which feel ethnicity close to magyars, would be to have people which represent them in strong political organisations of right/left side depending on you, which represent your vision and your needs, which oppose others trash politics. I sometimes wanted to see some politicians which are legit judge the politics which aim against it's citizens. I am confident that one day all people which feel cultural close to hungarian origins will understand that here we are all, and all of us are Romanians, even romanians themself are different with some of the other parts of Romania ( we ain't all the same in some aspects , but in some we do share a common heritage). All what happen was with a reason, i know Romania/Hungary payed a long price during ww2 ,while nazi Germany didn't even been charged to pay, nazi germany didn't lost as much territory as romanians or hungarians used to do. I can proof history arguments where ww2 Romania been fucked up by nazi and communist in same time, Hungarians didn't deserve to hold Transylvania as they lost in on right reasons and received it for free without a war in ww2. Thinking back to that is like you would be again in a nazi regime, i know this region was belong some centuries to Hungary, is nore more true that we have history stuffs in Romania which are part of Hungarians occupation. But the present tells that this is Romanian land now and that in past it were holding geto-dacians which fight with Rome in Transylvania, it wasn't all the time hungarian. There were historicla fights and keep being fights, until the last one which win it in battle holded it. That was the part where you couldn't fight or had time to fight and take it back.
      Now i don't think would be a good idea to fight for it or sustain that it is yours, since we been force in some aspects to just give up on that and it was under a nazi regime when we been force to release and give it to hungarians. Between 1848-1918 romanians=hungarians=germans from the zone were all equal and were laws to establish that all citizens of Transylvania will be treat equal, them language will be equal having rights. I can't tell how many romanians/magyars were living when they broke themself of austro-hungarian empire. But i know it wouldn't be possible if it wouldn't be legal.
      The fact now we establish more and more connections and friendship is a sign that we must keep on this path, where everyone is free to speak and learn what he wish, everyone is free to live in peace and own it's own place in this country. I haven't seen any Romanian to get a political party in Hungary, neither seen minorities to be persecuted and i hope if there was someone to do such things to be punish by laws.
      The fortunes are the mountains, there is no much which belong to history nowadays , beyond some historical points that leave some historical heritage there is no much you could say that build on the strength of hungarians, hungarians haven't been always alone and they force weak countries to pay taxes, so don't believe that hungarians woulded be same kind of political country you would agree to see today. Like i don't think that you would want to see wars in modern age, or countries which oppress others existence.
      I tell you that Romanians are only self defence, it been now too much part of Romania, to ever believe that it could ever return to Hungary as region ( it would make 0 sense for those which build themself a life here and spoke all them life romanian, most of people which speak romanian will accept the peace it is between us, as long as we are focusing on the present/future relationships).
      What happens to hungarian castels and towards monuments is the consequence of corruption and stupid politics in this country, PNL=PSD=AUR=UDMR , they all embrace corruption and this is the reason we don't see stuffs to be done in Romania. I know it hurths but think like most of stuffs are ignored nowadays. The way old politics change the political power harm this country much, for exemple this moment in Romania UDMR agreed and watch PSD=PNL breaking laws and blocking the goverment, haven't seen any political person from UDMR to take part of USR-PLUS or to be part of Romanian citizens, all romanians most of them have confidence that PNL=PSD=AUR=UDMR ain't represent citizens rights in equal measure or respect the future of us.
      I know historical points which been restored due to different sport stars, exemple of one being Caroly Castle (Carei) , i just visit it 4 days ago, i was glad to read the sport stars storry and the fact they contribute to restauration of the castle. I feel like in my city there were done so many stuffs before we hold any ethnicity mayor. We have a high school where students of ethnicity learn in them own ethnicity language , it was restored before by autorities and as sign that people respect each other more every day, there is less hate and more friendship and there is no anti national moves, there are people which speak and should speak equal for all of us, we romanians never think about only ourself. We all know that the life is hard for everyone, paying high taxes, living in corruption, romanians are sometimes harmful even with each other, i seen people with double ethnicity which kind of bully me at work or woulded do some other stuffs. I never spoke outside of others ears and understandance, we romanians never had a secret towards the others which spoke magyar, we still in difficulty to catch any conversation people talk with each other at work, sometimes we feel like outside of mid center where everyone should speak the same language that everyone understand(is wrong to think that romanians should learn hungarian to do conversation or understand what some people speak about a mather at work and then to ask for translation or feedback over what they discuss{ is feeling hard to take it in our own country - imagine i would disrespect your language in Hungary and would speak romanian as most of people wouldn't understand it there - as exemple}.

    • @niaroma2375
      @niaroma2375 2 роки тому +3

      There is no reason for hate, i like what been build with origins of austro-hungarians in Romania, there would be no point to don't encourage or respect a building based on identity, we never give buildings ethnicity. All of them have them own soul and beauty. I wish there could be better politics or better national moves to fight for preserving and restoring them. One of my idea was to fund economical organizations to build stronger universities where there is need for them to be, so kids wouldn't have to travel to big cities, one was to encourage tourism and develop it. All it needed was some organization to take money and build in advance a future with places to work, with competition , with high skill education, which jobs , with better future development. I am up to believe that one day there will be great moves to come from Romania, and there will be a huge grow and much more maturity between everyone which is up for preserving and making it the future of a strong nationality in the best relationships with everyone around. Hungarians had always a sense and feeling of being necesary to attack romanians, even if they don't understand pure romanians mind/politics/kindness. There are many teenagers which know more nowadays and are more intelligent and advancing on a social scale and replace slowly bad politics, old political organisation which never been able to change Romania to it's full power as nation and beliefs of rebuilding the country which was once prior communist days, speaking of king politics and much more respected politicians those days (with some exceptions).
      On your own as citizen you can't do much unless you are extremly rich, therefore is necesary to have a strong fund and to make it work and build something and pay you back in time with it's activity. I know that we need to build a society much more cleaver and much more peaceful with the agreement, that we must pay before we get to see something being done.
      If there is something Romanians themself mistake please feel free to say, we are without hands in the face of those political forces which do as they wish as long as people not release themself in strong gouverment strikes. I never seen protests to be organise by minorities in our country, there is no one with influence to opposse shitty politics and the politicians money thirsty and which treat us with indifference. I feel like all Romanians should be out in streets and shut out PSD/PNL/AUR as political parties. Even if AUR is some anti magyars part we wouldn't ever support such organisations and for us those parties are a joke.
      I would recommend if you supported UDMR to guide them to stay far of PSD/PNL , they are old dogs which know to bark, but when the citizens of Romania will bite, it will not be without marks over all political parties which act against citizens.

  • @ildikomakany3522
    @ildikomakany3522 3 роки тому

    Voltam itt 86-ban. Akkor teljesen reménytelennek tűnt a felújítás.

  •  3 роки тому +3

    Erdély Versailles-jának is hívták régen :) Itt egy részletes úti film róla:
    ua-cam.com/video/5fM7Yv8-S90/v-deo.html

  • @attilakovacs1415
    @attilakovacs1415 2 роки тому

    kié a kastély ??

    • @klaudiakocsis3798
      @klaudiakocsis3798 8 місяців тому

      Hát ez egy nehéz kérdés mert a bánffy miklós gróf mi volt ez a kastély csak ugye jöttek a németek és el kellett menekülniük annak idején majd mikor bejöttek a németek ezt a kastélyt kifosztották kirabolták mindent elvittek és miattuk néz ki a kastély így ilyen állapotban ezért mikor meglátták hogy hogy néz ki úgy döntöttek inkább nem jönnek ide vissza

    • @klaudiakocsis3798
      @klaudiakocsis3798 8 місяців тому

      Pedig még van bánffy miklósnak egy lánya aki még gróf bánffy katalin 99 éves ő még él valahol marokkóban most néztem meg róla egy videót a youtube-on

    • @attilakovacs1415
      @attilakovacs1415 8 місяців тому

      @@klaudiakocsis3798 a nemesség kötelez ,nem ?

    • @attilakovacs1415
      @attilakovacs1415 8 місяців тому

      @@klaudiakocsis3798 jogos....a nemesség kötelez ,nem ?

    • @TrillianaEM
      @TrillianaEM 3 місяці тому

      2008-ban a Marokkóban élö Bánffy Katalin visszakapta a kastélyt, úgyhogy most magántulajdon. De ahogy a hölgy a videoban mondta, önfenntartó kell majd legyen. A felépítésre van még (?) EU-alap, de a fenntartást, müködést majd másképp kell fedezni.