Ok I didn’t watch the video but I have a serious question. Why does everyone love to discredit what Jayson Tatum has accomplished? He literally just won an NBA championship and he’s one of the most successful playoff performers from his generation. Ball don’t lie. He’s severely disrespected and underrated. His accolades will speak for his legacy at the end of the day, and that’s something that is empirical which cannot be denied. edit: so your argument is that since he always had an excellent front office that should be counted against him? That’s what you’re saying?
His argument is valid. I'm a Celtics fan, and he's right, when you compared Tatum to the all time greats, you have to add those things, like, he had a good team from the beginning. He didn't say that Tatum was a bad player, but had a better team and less good performances than guys like Dirk, Jordan, Kobe LeBron etc... For example, you can critize Duncan for the same thing, he came in a great team with a Hofer still at his prime. So when you compare Duncan to Kobe or Jordan, Shaq etc... you have to think about it.
@@kennykent5336 the thumbnail says Jayson is not a star. You're telling me this video justified that? Also, why must Jayson be compared to the greatest players of all time? This video strikes me more as a downplay.
@@fraliv5526 You know the youtube game man, a thumbnail to make clicks. He never said in the video that Tatum isn't a star. Cause Jayson has the potential to be one of the greatest, ECF in his first year. Already one title, two finals, one Larry Bird Trophy and 5 ECF, 30ppg season and he's not even in his prime yet but i understand your point of view
@@saucegodnas7318 Totally agree, without him, they would at best go to the ECF like in 2017. But nobody said that they were better without him, he's without a doubt the best player of the team or at least, the most impactful.
31, 8, and 11 assists in a legendary game for the title. Adding to what is already an incredibly impressive résumé. There were several guys on the NBA’s 75 that don’t have half the CV Tatum does. Just completed a historical statistical run joining Larry, LeBron, Jokic, Tim Duncan and Dream as the only players in league HISTORY to do what he did in leading a team in points, rebounds and assists to win the championship. 5x all star, 3 straight all NBA 1st teams, 5 conference finals, 2 finals, and a championship with on one of the 15 greatest teams ever in only his 7th season at the age of 26, and he’s about to sign the biggest contract in NBA history. Tatum is already a top 55 player, a made man, a living legend in Boston, and an all time GREAT player with the accolades and stats and achievements that PROVE just that. He's heading to top 30 all time with another chip and his inevitable MVP as well. Nice try though.
Tatum has been the better player all these years. He has more accolades and records. He was playing well all postseason including the finals. People only started saying JB was better after he won ecf MVP. The same people saying Brown is better are the same people who said he had no left hand a year ago.
Tatum always has been the best player, but Brown was the most regular. And maybe those people who criticized JB, watched the game 7 against the Heat last year and saw him turned the ball over multiple times going on his left hand.
@@kennykent5336exactly I don’t hate JB and I think he can be a number option and has shown that for a minute but people are quick to forget the moment he receives a fraction of the attention Tatum gets for other teams he looks just as inefficient as Tatum.
@@Nick-sr4fe Agree, people don't understand that those guys around Tatum are successfull, Holiday, Brown, Horford, KP, White, especially because the opposite team focus so much on him, and he almost every time made the perfect read. But he still missed a lot of easy shots, layups or open threes and that's the step for him to be an all time great, but he's only 26, he will be better for sure !
Another big problem with this video how are you gonna blame tatum for having a good team around him but lebron and Jordan had to build their team like no the front office does that not tatums fault he was drafted by the celtics who have a historically good front office you can't blame that on tatum he still got more point in the playoffs b4 27 then all of them tatum is already an all-time great with more time he's going to be top 30
Yall jus love moving the goal posts for tatum hes better then 95% of the league and can literally do anything on the court you need from him yall ppl that try to criticize him even for having good teammates are jus stupid as simple as that if you think tatum isnt a superstar you should stop watching basketball entirely
@@TheDON914 u clearly don't watch him play then teams constantly double team him when he drives and he gets steals and blocks every game maybe actually watch him play b4 you open ur mouth
@@TheDON914 probably with you casual you are more focused on his missed shots then watching how dallas playing him by double teaming, triple teaming and clogging up every lanes when tatum drive to the hoop. real basketball fans point it out and broke down on videos is why tatum started playing at the point to used dallas aggressive defense against him to find on players is why tatum was avging all most 10 assist a game. that show maturity from tatum because the old tatum would keep trying to score over a double team
people bashing Tatum very prematurely hes only 26 years old you cant call a player not a star when he made 1st all-nba team 3times, most nba superstar barely made it 2times. its same every year people will keep moving the goal post what ever tatum achieve
Lmfao makes a whole video comparing Tatums numbers to literally 16 legends. Then, ends the video saying he won't be held to the same standard of previous NBA stars lmfao... What?
Idk man, comparing him to top 15 (or 20) guys seems a bit wild consideringmmost people don't hold him in that high regard. It's like people are way too ready to knock him down but don't have the same energy for other guys currently playing who get hyped up to no end with minimal (or Embiids case, not enough) push back.
As a C's fan, for years I've been hearing how he and Brown can't win together, or that one of them (or both) should be traded. Yet the moment they win and disprove that nonsense, now it's, "they didn't win the way we wanted." Is it because the narrative being pushed this year was, "whoever comes out the west is winning the chip," and they disproved that? Or is it because people expectations were that they would eventually choke this season.
Bro really tried to say derrick whites fg% took a hit from last year to this year it literally went down .1 which for fg% means absolutely jack acting like he went down 4%
@mikotagayuna8494 I don't have an issue with their ring. I don't see why the KD warriors rings or miami heat lebron rings were an issue. But lebron and curry and durant look better because they repeated.
@@yyynbbggsage7398 Any player would look bad when you compared them to proven championship vets. Try comparing JT to those of his age group then you'll see the real difference.
If he won fmvp he would've had the lowest FG% of any fmvp in nba history, along with being the only one to shoot below 40%. He did outplay JB in that last game after stat padding a bit, but in the other 3 games, he was worse by a bit.
@@5sgznv Yeah... no. Stat Padding does not mean "everything he did up until the last 4-5 mins of the game, because that is the only stretch that counts" Take away his points and assists and Dallas is +35, in real game time, with say Josh Hart (coz everyone likes this meme), theyre losing that game by double digits.
Yet Tatum lead the team in every category while getting doubled teamed and contained…I love brown but watch tape or stfu…I can’t stand incompetent people who follow threads…
@@realizbac4624Tatum sacrificing touches, drawing doubles and playing up defensively made Jaylen’s job infinitely easier. Jaylen cannot do what’s asked of Tatum. Jaylen had a better postseason, Tatum has been the better player since he entered the league and I’m sick of people acting like 1 year makes Jaylen the better player.
Ok I didn’t watch the video but I have a serious question. Why does everyone love to discredit what Jayson Tatum has accomplished? He literally just won an NBA championship and he’s one of the most successful playoff performers from his generation. Ball don’t lie. He’s severely disrespected and underrated. His accolades will speak for his legacy at the end of the day, and that’s something that is empirical which cannot be denied.
edit: so your argument is that since he always had an excellent front office that should be counted against him? That’s what you’re saying?
His argument is valid. I'm a Celtics fan, and he's right, when you compared Tatum to the all time greats, you have to add those things, like, he had a good team from the beginning. He didn't say that Tatum was a bad player, but had a better team and less good performances than guys like Dirk, Jordan, Kobe LeBron etc...
For example, you can critize Duncan for the same thing, he came in a great team with a Hofer still at his prime. So when you compare Duncan to Kobe or Jordan, Shaq etc... you have to think about it.
@@kennykent5336 JT gets the Celtics over the hump. Without him they wouldn’t make it as far. Duncan gets overlooked because of how boring he was.
@@kennykent5336 the thumbnail says Jayson is not a star. You're telling me this video justified that? Also, why must Jayson be compared to the greatest players of all time? This video strikes me more as a downplay.
@@fraliv5526 You know the youtube game man, a thumbnail to make clicks. He never said in the video that Tatum isn't a star.
Cause Jayson has the potential to be one of the greatest, ECF in his first year. Already one title, two finals, one Larry Bird Trophy and 5 ECF, 30ppg season and he's not even in his prime yet but i understand your point of view
@@saucegodnas7318 Totally agree, without him, they would at best go to the ECF like in 2017. But nobody said that they were better without him, he's without a doubt the best player of the team or at least, the most impactful.
31, 8, and 11 assists in a legendary game for the title. Adding to what is already an incredibly impressive résumé. There were several guys on the NBA’s 75 that don’t have half the CV Tatum does. Just completed a historical statistical run joining Larry, LeBron, Jokic, Tim Duncan and Dream as the only players in league HISTORY to do what he did in leading a team in points, rebounds and assists to win the championship. 5x all star, 3 straight all NBA 1st teams, 5 conference finals, 2 finals, and a championship with on one of the 15 greatest teams ever in only his 7th season at the age of 26, and he’s about to sign the biggest contract in NBA history. Tatum is already a top 55 player, a made man, a living legend in Boston, and an all time GREAT player with the accolades and stats and achievements that PROVE just that. He's heading to top 30 all time with another chip and his inevitable MVP as well. Nice try though.
Inflation
So, we can disregard 3/5ths of Kobe’s legacy then?
Stop it.
We talking about his Legacy and he is only 26. He's a star!
He will never be the next Larry bird that’s Luka!
@@marioantoniocrespoMexican92ah yes luka mr flop
@@marioantoniocrespoMexican92say that when luka wins a ring
@@marioantoniocrespoMexican92 luka will never be a larry bird!! larry plays defense unlike luka whos more closer to james harden game
Using Jayson Tatum for clicks. Couldn’t get any views without him lmao
Yessir xD
Tatum has been the better player all these years. He has more accolades and records. He was playing well all postseason including the finals. People only started saying JB was better after he won ecf MVP. The same people saying Brown is better are the same people who said he had no left hand a year ago.
Tatum always has been the best player, but Brown was the most regular.
And maybe those people who criticized JB, watched the game 7 against the Heat last year and saw him turned the ball over multiple times going on his left hand.
@@kennykent5336exactly I don’t hate JB and I think he can be a number option and has shown that for a minute but people are quick to forget the moment he receives a fraction of the attention Tatum gets for other teams he looks just as inefficient as Tatum.
@@Nick-sr4fe Agree, people don't understand that those guys around Tatum are successfull, Holiday, Brown, Horford, KP, White, especially because the opposite team focus so much on him, and he almost every time made the perfect read. But he still missed a lot of easy shots, layups or open threes and that's the step for him to be an all time great, but he's only 26, he will be better for sure !
Another big problem with this video how are you gonna blame tatum for having a good team around him but lebron and Jordan had to build their team like no the front office does that not tatums fault he was drafted by the celtics who have a historically good front office you can't blame that on tatum he still got more point in the playoffs b4 27 then all of them tatum is already an all-time great with more time he's going to be top 30
its the same bs people used to use against tom brady...
Yall jus love moving the goal posts for tatum hes better then 95% of the league and can literally do anything on the court you need from him yall ppl that try to criticize him even for having good teammates are jus stupid as simple as that if you think tatum isnt a superstar you should stop watching basketball entirely
The dude ain't even a good shot blocker let alone lockdown defender , and his finish at the rim is average , how tf you miss a dunk and a layup 🤔
@@TheDON914 u clearly don't watch him play then teams constantly double team him when he drives and he gets steals and blocks every game maybe actually watch him play b4 you open ur mouth
@@TheDON914 probably with you casual you are more focused on his missed shots then watching how dallas playing him by double teaming, triple teaming and clogging up every lanes when tatum drive to the hoop. real basketball fans point it out and broke down on videos is why tatum started playing at the point to used dallas aggressive defense against him to find on players is why tatum was avging all most 10 assist a game. that show maturity from tatum because the old tatum would keep trying to score over a double team
22 minutes to explain what coasting is 💀
how’s it coasting when he’s the best on the team?
Listening to this... great format on this one! Good depth too.👌🏽
Thank you
people bashing Tatum very prematurely hes only 26 years old you cant call a player not a star when he made 1st all-nba team 3times, most nba superstar barely made it 2times. its same every year people will keep moving the goal post what ever tatum achieve
Superteam hospital run
Lmfao makes a whole video comparing Tatums numbers to literally 16 legends. Then, ends the video saying he won't be held to the same standard of previous NBA stars lmfao... What?
Who cares what you guys think. He won a championship. And soaked Luka doing it. And that's never gonna change
Stats
Idk man, comparing him to top 15 (or 20) guys seems a bit wild consideringmmost people don't hold him in that high regard. It's like people are way too ready to knock him down but don't have the same energy for other guys currently playing who get hyped up to no end with minimal (or Embiids case, not enough) push back.
As a C's fan, for years I've been hearing how he and Brown can't win together, or that one of them (or both) should be traded. Yet the moment they win and disprove that nonsense, now it's, "they didn't win the way we wanted." Is it because the narrative being pushed this year was, "whoever comes out the west is winning the chip," and they disproved that? Or is it because people expectations were that they would eventually choke this season.
Bro really tried to say derrick whites fg% took a hit from last year to this year it literally went down .1 which for fg% means absolutely jack acting like he went down 4%
this video is pathetic bruh
Can we talk
Damn not a fan of this team but love the video 💯
Ahaaaaa. Champion. Stamp that. This debate shit is for the BIRDS. Ahaaaaaa
These celtics need to repeat
The goal posts keep shifting...
@mikotagayuna8494 I don't have an issue with their ring. I don't see why the KD warriors rings or miami heat lebron rings were an issue. But lebron and curry and durant look better because they repeated.
@@yyynbbggsage7398 Any player would look bad when you compared them to proven championship vets. Try comparing JT to those of his age group then you'll see the real difference.
@@mikotagayuna8494 it's nba discourse. Either you're top 10 of all time or you're a fraud. Jt is great for what he is.
@@mikotagayuna8494he's worse than all of them lol. Even at 26
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Tatum got robbed by jb bro
I'm sure JT doesn't mind. He's a team-first kind of player.
If he won fmvp he would've had the lowest FG% of any fmvp in nba history, along with being the only one to shoot below 40%. He did outplay JB in that last game after stat padding a bit, but in the other 3 games, he was worse by a bit.
@@5sgznvYour so called stat padding was brown bricking, so tatum took the ball and made sure we didnt blow it and never looked back
@@5sgznvTatum is also the only player in nba history to lead his team in points rebounds and assists and not win fmvp
@@5sgznv Yeah... no. Stat Padding does not mean "everything he did up until the last 4-5 mins of the game, because that is the only stretch that counts"
Take away his points and assists and Dallas is +35, in real game time, with say Josh Hart (coz everyone likes this meme), theyre losing that game by double digits.
Brown is the better all round player
This is what happen when Bot commenting on NBA Finals
Yet Tatum lead the team in every category while getting doubled teamed and contained…I love brown but watch tape or stfu…I can’t stand incompetent people who follow threads…
Right now yea Brown is better. A narrative I hear is Tatum peaked when in actuality he’s not even in his prime years
@@realizbac4624Tatum sacrificing touches, drawing doubles and playing up defensively made Jaylen’s job infinitely easier. Jaylen cannot do what’s asked of Tatum. Jaylen had a better postseason, Tatum has been the better player since he entered the league and I’m sick of people acting like 1 year makes Jaylen the better player.
@@tim.noonanwho do you think is the better defender of the 2?
Crap