Thank you for this post video I’ve never found my exclusion fence for my new farm in the Rushworth area Victoria thank you again for Tim for this excellent video
Great video Tim. However....... Wombats! We live in an area with a lot of wombats, and they are the worst, they would easily get under V4 and when they do, everything else follows. The apron is not wide enough and to keep wombats out you need it on both sides, because they will come both directions. I think this shows excellent trial and error, methods and the way you handled the roo issues with farming was excellent
This video was very helpful. We are in the Kootenay region of British Columbia and this fall we had a young bear get through our perimeter electric fencing. We were having so much rain the fence voltage was not running at its highest. We don't have a lot of sheep, but we lost 3 pregnant ewes and have been trying to think of ways to add height to the fence as soon as all the snow melts, because unfortunately as soon as it comes out of hibernation that bear bear will be back 5 months older and very hungry.
Great to see such practical cost effective solutions inc the early versions that weren’t perfect but are still doing a pretty good job. So often contractors just say “rip it out and start again”. Do you have a video and or are you planning a video on ways of upgrading 4 and or 5 barb with hinge joint - in particular I’d like to see attaching the new hinge joint with built in HT top and bottom wire onto existing timber split posts with 4 or 5 strand barb already there.
Hi Chris. I have a video coming up in January explaining how to strain complex netting and replace existing fence. It also explains why you would never combine two fence systems. Hope it helps. Merry Christmas.
Tim...at 16:16 you mention "the link above" for watching your tying off and termination knot, but...it's not there! I see a wire spinner buying guide, a Whites factory tour and a strainer review. Seconds later (at 16:23) we see...GRIPPLES! This is a bit of a surprise, considering how much you've bagged them in the past. Have I missed something here...?
Ross, I’ve pointed out (quite rightly) that in many cases there are stronger cheaper options. With 13 line wires, the load is well supported. Thanks for letting me know about the link. I’ll fix tomorrow.
Great video keep it up very informative. Could you do a video on the basics of planning for a new fence install. Discussing length of run and how a 5km fence install is different to 500m. the impact is has on how often you have strainers, intermediates and droppers. What the longest run one can strain is etc. Many thanks
Great Video with some excellent tips I may be able to use on my next job. We did a similar exclusion fence, using existing star pickets (spaced a little far apart for the best job but it works) and a pickex product made of plastic. It just slipped over the existing pickets. There were also existing end assemblies that had to be extended. Then 2 runs of 7 90 30 hinge joint and a plain top for extra support, we have a 1.8Mtr high fence that only the biggest roos go over. I agree with tims comments the young ones go under and also through. It required constant attention for the first few months but now they seem to be trained and mostly leave it alone. We are about to tackle version 2 on our eastern boundary using long steel posts and closer spacings probably 5 Mtrs. We also discovered when faced with the obstacle of the new fence that they cannot easily get through will travel long distances to try and find a way round. At our place it is a klm or so to the east but they found their way round.
You can. But the concrete shrinks and cracks over time, it costs a lot and makes replacement a nightmare. In this age when you can drive posts and they are stronger, concreting is the equivalent of a 6foot split timber brace.
Tim what if you were to tie pieces of plastic marking tape zig zagged along the fence that moves in the wind. Then Roos will see the movement and possibly not even try jumping over the fence.
The throw away line "obviously new posts won't weld" is probably an urban myth (or a rural myth). HIgher carbon steels are weldable, Bunnings sell a flux cored wire for higher carbon steels!
Hello Tim. Great video with an excellent insight into roo and deer behaviour. You mentioned a future video on electric exclusion fencing. Is this available yet? Cheers!
Both Tims, any deer or kangaroos hung up in these fences? They get hung in plain wire as much as barbed wire - I heard your comment about trying to prevent them being hung up.
Awesome video, Tim. From Canada, that's some beauty country there. Tim, has anyone showed you TimeLess Fence systems? Insulated. recycled vynal T-posts? Greg Judy raves about them. (have you heard of Greg Judy, Tim?)
Hey mate. I’m hoping to look at a similar sounding system soon ( hence my reference to electric). And yep, I’ve heard of Greg Judy. I like what he’s up to.
I had a really good discussion around this with a fencing professional only a week ago….. cattle put far different strain on fences than sheep obviously…. BUT… what if they couldn’t put their head over the standard 4’ fence. Interesting question. No answer yet…. Yet
I can understand in.... but it’s a nightmare replacing and working around posts set in concrete. Driven posts are stronger anyway. Leave that for home gardening.
@@FarmLearningTim how are driven posts stronger? Is it to do with the depth that they are in the ground? I have been concreting the box assemblies in and then hand knocking star droppers for the length of the fence (internal fences only). Wooden box strainer posts are 700mm in the ground (concreted) and then cut to 1200mm above. They seem very solid.
We have heavy clay soil on our farm in North East Victoria. Had a contractor drive strainer posts in and put a steel stay and steel floating stay block, most of these have shifted. A previous contractor concreted strainer posts welded the stay and concreted the stay in place, these haven't shifted at all. Tim should you drive 100mm steel post 1200mm or deeper?
Tim Curtis demonstrates true ingenuity and a sustainable attitude to living in harmony with his business and surrounds, well done!
And he is a smart businessman and complete gentleman.
Those star picket extensions look like a great Australian invention. i wish i was a farmer. As usual a terrific presentation Tim.
Thank you for this post video I’ve never found my exclusion fence for my new farm in the Rushworth area Victoria thank you again for Tim for this excellent video
good job mate I like all the innovations shown there especially the barb wire trolley
Great video Tim. However....... Wombats! We live in an area with a lot of wombats, and they are the worst, they would easily get under V4 and when they do, everything else follows. The apron is not wide enough and to keep wombats out you need it on both sides, because they will come both directions.
I think this shows excellent trial and error, methods and the way you handled the roo issues with farming was excellent
Good clip Tim, probably your best so far.
Thanks mate. This is the direction I want to head for sure
This video was very helpful. We are in the Kootenay region of British Columbia and this fall we had a young bear get through our perimeter electric fencing. We were having so much rain the fence voltage was not running at its highest. We don't have a lot of sheep, but we lost 3 pregnant ewes and have been trying to think of ways to add height to the fence as soon as all the snow melts, because unfortunately as soon as it comes out of hibernation that bear bear will be back 5 months older and very hungry.
Hope this helps. Great to hear from you.
Great to see such practical cost effective solutions inc the early versions that weren’t perfect but are still doing a pretty good job. So often contractors just say “rip it out and start again”. Do you have a video and or are you planning a video on ways of upgrading 4 and or 5 barb with hinge joint - in particular I’d like to see attaching the new hinge joint with built in HT top and bottom wire onto existing timber split posts with 4 or 5 strand barb already there.
Hi Chris. I have a video coming up in January explaining how to strain complex netting and replace existing fence. It also explains why you would never combine two fence systems. Hope it helps. Merry Christmas.
Great job Tim, always looks forward to your films, can always learn something from you. Also your final, new fence looked very very neat.
Thanks Tim, bloody awesome video, you have given me a couple of solutions to a fencing issue I have, cheers
Tim...at 16:16 you mention "the link above" for watching your tying off and termination knot, but...it's not there! I see a wire spinner buying guide, a Whites factory tour and a strainer review. Seconds later (at 16:23) we see...GRIPPLES! This is a bit of a surprise, considering how much you've bagged them in the past. Have I missed something here...?
Ross, I’ve pointed out (quite rightly) that in many cases there are stronger cheaper options. With 13 line wires, the load is well supported. Thanks for letting me know about the link. I’ll fix tomorrow.
Great video keep it up very informative. Could you do a video on the basics of planning for a new fence install. Discussing length of run and how a 5km fence install is different to 500m. the impact is has on how often you have strainers, intermediates and droppers. What the longest run one can strain is etc. Many thanks
Good job
You guys should check out Greg Judy from Missouri over in the USA. That guy has the best electric fence ideas.
Two thumbs up. Liked this enough that I went and bought a hoodie. :)
Wow....
Great Video with some excellent tips I may be able to use on my next job. We did a similar exclusion fence, using existing star pickets (spaced a little far apart for the best job but it works) and a pickex product made of plastic. It just slipped over the existing pickets. There were also existing end assemblies that had to be extended. Then 2 runs of 7 90 30 hinge joint and a plain top for extra support, we have a 1.8Mtr high fence that only the biggest roos go over. I agree with tims comments the young ones go under and also through. It required constant attention for the first few months but now they seem to be trained and mostly leave it alone. We are about to tackle version 2 on our eastern boundary using long steel posts and closer spacings probably 5 Mtrs. We also discovered when faced with the obstacle of the new fence that they cannot easily get through will travel long distances to try and find a way round. At our place it is a klm or so to the east but they found their way round.
Thanks for your update! I’d recommend even going 4m spacing if going 1.8. Just for longevity. Sounds like you are getting a fair bit done!
Why cant you concrete posts in??
You can. But the concrete shrinks and cracks over time, it costs a lot and makes replacement a nightmare. In this age when you can drive posts and they are stronger, concreting is the equivalent of a 6foot split timber brace.
Look forward to the Electrick fence alternative system
Fantastic love it
Tim what if you were to tie pieces of plastic marking tape zig zagged along the fence that moves in the wind. Then Roos will see the movement and possibly not even try jumping over the fence.
Tried this in a recent trial. Cattle ate the flappy bits 🤪 sometimes simple is better
The throw away line "obviously new posts won't weld" is probably an urban myth (or a rural myth). HIgher carbon steels are weldable, Bunnings sell a flux cored wire for higher carbon steels!
Hello Tim. Great video with an excellent insight into roo and deer behaviour. You mentioned a future video on electric exclusion fencing. Is this available yet? Cheers!
Unfortunately that one fell through. But I’m always looking out for new content.
What was the info about no longer being able to weld star pickets anymore? Some weird alloy or the gas from the grindable galv coating?
Just the carbon content of new posts. All brands.
Both Tims, any deer or kangaroos hung up in these fences? They get hung in plain wire as much as barbed wire - I heard your comment about trying to prevent them being hung up.
They don’t hang up nearly as often in plain wire. By going 6feet high it’s rare they’re even jumping. Most try to go under. Hence barb at base
Tim, a 9m post distance was mentioned, what's the typical distance between strainers there?
Big question with about a million answers mate. Depends on wire load, height of fence, diameter of posts, depth set etc etc.
Awesome video, Tim. From Canada, that's some beauty country there.
Tim, has anyone showed you TimeLess Fence systems? Insulated. recycled vynal T-posts? Greg Judy raves about them. (have you heard of Greg Judy, Tim?)
Hey mate. I’m hoping to look at a similar sounding system soon ( hence my reference to electric). And yep, I’ve heard of Greg Judy. I like what he’s up to.
Would cattle push these over or get through?
I had a really good discussion around this with a fencing professional only a week ago….. cattle put far different strain on fences than sheep obviously…. BUT… what if they couldn’t put their head over the standard 4’ fence. Interesting question. No answer yet…. Yet
Hi Tim--Why not concrete in fenceposts?
I can understand in.... but it’s a nightmare replacing and working around posts set in concrete. Driven posts are stronger anyway. Leave that for home gardening.
@@FarmLearningTim how are driven posts stronger? Is it to do with the depth that they are in the ground? I have been concreting the box assemblies in and then hand knocking star droppers for the length of the fence (internal fences only). Wooden box strainer posts are 700mm in the ground (concreted) and then cut to 1200mm above. They seem very solid.
We have heavy clay soil on our farm in North East Victoria. Had a contractor drive strainer posts in and put a steel stay and steel floating stay block, most of these have shifted. A previous contractor concreted strainer posts welded the stay and concreted the stay in place, these haven't shifted at all. Tim should you drive 100mm steel post 1200mm or deeper?