NHL Captains Who Were STRIPPED Of Their "C"

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  • @RobTalksHockey
    @RobTalksHockey  3 роки тому +73

    Who is your teams best or questionable captain?

    • @miken8889
      @miken8889 3 роки тому +18

      leaf fans may remember a guy named dion phaneuf!

    • @brandonlodge_1238
      @brandonlodge_1238 3 роки тому +2

      Andy Greene lmao

    • @jok3r906
      @jok3r906 3 роки тому +3

      Best by far is a tie between Stevie Y and Nik Lindstrom

    • @leaffan7479
      @leaffan7479 3 роки тому +4

      As a Leaf fan George Armstrong RIP

    • @truehockeyfan1179
      @truehockeyfan1179 3 роки тому +5

      Yashin just Yashin

  • @johnfitzgerald7339
    @johnfitzgerald7339 2 роки тому +232

    always thought the goalie not being eligible for "C" was dumb. If he's the heart and soul of your team then why not?

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid 2 роки тому +42

      Many fans don't understand the role of Captain or Alternate. It's not just "designated leader". There's rules regarding who can speak to officials and when.

    • @Zillzbillz
      @Zillzbillz 2 роки тому +20

      Like the other guy said, I heard an explanation once. If I remember right, it is because a goalie can’t properly fulfill the responsibilities that the Cs and ACs have.

    • @blendedgrain5893
      @blendedgrain5893 2 роки тому +6

      @@bbb462cid thank you for actually knowing

    • @YANILLIONAIRE
      @YANILLIONAIRE 2 роки тому +16

      @@blendedgrain5893 basically there was a Habs goalie waaaay back in the 1920/30's (i think) who was a captain and him leaving the crease constantly became a large delay of game so they banned it

    • @worldsokayest8601
      @worldsokayest8601 2 роки тому +8

      @@YANILLIONAIRE bill durnan. Circa 1940s/50s if I'm not mistaken

  • @gabe_davtyan
    @gabe_davtyan 3 роки тому +143

    As my dad always says: “you don’t need a C on your chest to know if your a leader”

  • @jordan_mcchesney
    @jordan_mcchesney 3 роки тому +109

    If you’ve ever wondered why Canucks fans routinely say “f*ck Messier”, now you know.

    • @cthomas025
      @cthomas025 3 роки тому +16

      Yep, and well deserved. As a huge Rangers fan, I never liked Messier. I appreciate what he did helping to bring the cup to NY, but what a pompous douche. Even now, he's done nothing post playing career in coaching or personnel, but the guy thinks he deserves a shot at being the head coach or GM of the Rangers. I'm just thankful that Dolan hasn't been THAT stupid...yet.

    • @Chujometlofuk
      @Chujometlofuk 3 роки тому

      @@cthomas025 I agree fully

    • @TrenbologneSandwich
      @TrenbologneSandwich 2 роки тому

      Worst player to ever lace em up

    • @Gl-my8fw
      @Gl-my8fw 2 роки тому +1

      @@TrenbologneSandwich lol. No. Not a great person but a damn good player still.

  • @chengliu872
    @chengliu872 3 роки тому +162

    I am surprised that you didn't talk about Joe Thornton.

    • @spiderwoopet
      @spiderwoopet 3 роки тому +17

      or Dustin Brown

    • @f-twelve7155
      @f-twelve7155 3 роки тому +1

      Joe Thornton couldn’t handle the pressure and asked them to not be the one

    • @chengliu872
      @chengliu872 3 роки тому

      @@f-twelve7155: So it wasn't so much that he was stripped of the role than that he stepped down from the role?

    • @f-twelve7155
      @f-twelve7155 3 роки тому

      @@chengliu872 Yeah I mean from my remembering that’s what happened, he was made fun of for turning the role down from fans and stuff, so I think I’ll consider this case more of a step down than getting robbed

    • @onthegrow8403
      @onthegrow8403 3 роки тому +10

      @@f-twelve7155 What the fuck are you talking about his general manager said he wasn’t captain materials so he said here have it back

  • @transistorboy311
    @transistorboy311 3 роки тому +43

    Neidermayer lost his C when he was contemplating retirement the next year. He waited until December to come back.

    • @transistorboy311
      @transistorboy311 3 роки тому +1

      @@chimpiki Very true. Sadly, ducks had to trade one of their better players to get Neidermayer back on the roster in Andy McDonald

    • @floundermuffin8102
      @floundermuffin8102 3 роки тому +3

      Selanne too, start of the season sure sucked but when both of them came back i think the ducks had the best record from that point on! tough couple months going to games in my Neidermayer jersey and only seeing Rob :(

    • @LordBhorak
      @LordBhorak 3 роки тому

      Not to be "that guy", but I'll be "that guy". It's Niedermayer... One guy even has his jersey, but still gets the name wrong 😢

    • @giovanniherrera6037
      @giovanniherrera6037 3 роки тому +1

      That team was ridiculously stacked. Had they all decided to come back right away the ducks would’ve 2-peated

    • @duaneday5474
      @duaneday5474 3 роки тому +1

      Before or after winning the Vezna?🤣

  • @victoriak5802
    @victoriak5802 3 роки тому +76

    I Would love to see "Penalized players reacting to shorthanded goals!"

  • @connorthornewell2238
    @connorthornewell2238 3 роки тому +22

    In a world of teams giving an "A" to 4 or 5 players a season and not naming a captain for years at a time, I kinda respect that the Ducks just treated the "C" as captain for on-ice purposes. Scott was injured so passed it off and then returned it once fully healthy and ready to go

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid 2 роки тому

      Five alternates? Can you name six examples?

    • @connorthornewell2238
      @connorthornewell2238 2 роки тому

      @@bbb462cid en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_current_NHL_captains_and_alternate_captains
      scroll through and see how many teams have 3-4,5, or 6 official alternates yourself

    • @bbb462cid
      @bbb462cid 2 роки тому

      @@connorthornewell2238 Holy fuck I thought it was four teams

    • @Kreege
      @Kreege Рік тому +2

      Not to mention, of all the people it could have gone too, Pronger was a pretty damn fine leader who already had years of experience wearing the C in St. Louis

  • @Tek3333
    @Tek3333 3 роки тому +14

    4:34
    Damn Neidermayer won a Vezina? Impressive

    • @troyscott6504
      @troyscott6504 3 роки тому +2

      Ok i wasnt the only one who noticed that

  • @thedankswordsmantm
    @thedankswordsmantm 3 роки тому +11

    Luogno was insane. There was years where Lu had top 5 save percentages but like 1000 more shots against than the guy in second for shots against. He was getting like 4000-4500 shots against a season in Florida.

  • @Madbro204
    @Madbro204 3 роки тому +11

    Wow now I know why Vancouver HATES messier

  • @alecedgeworth2814
    @alecedgeworth2814 3 роки тому +9

    Messier also was hated in Vancouver for forcing the team to allow him to use a retired number when he came to the team

    • @highmedic2351
      @highmedic2351 Рік тому

      How does he force them?

    • @alecedgeworth2814
      @alecedgeworth2814 Рік тому

      @@highmedic2351 He told the team that if he didn’t have the number that he wouldn’t play even though he knew the number was retired by the team

  • @camronmerrill4824
    @camronmerrill4824 3 роки тому +26

    Feels pretty good to wake up to a Rob talks hockey video that I suggested 😀 good video bud keep it up

  • @christophermerlot3366
    @christophermerlot3366 3 роки тому +37

    Ok young'un you've clearly never heard of Darryl Sittler. It was quite a saga.

    • @Outta-hz1ej
      @Outta-hz1ej 3 роки тому +5

      The problem with pissing on Harold Ballard's grave is that eventually you run out of piss.

    • @rylanmonaghan7694
      @rylanmonaghan7694 3 роки тому

      That wasn’t being stripped of it though, he gave it up. But whatever the case I love that story as a flames fan

  • @formulahank1250
    @formulahank1250 3 роки тому +4

    I think the 1995-96 St Louis Blues merit an inclusion. They stripped Brett Hull of the C at the beginning of the season and gave it to Shayne Corson. Then they trade for Gretzky at the deadline and make him captain for the final 18 games of the season. An absolute trainwreck of leadership

    • @jon-eriksuermann9844
      @jon-eriksuermann9844 3 роки тому +1

      I was going to make the same comment. It should be added that Keenan was behind that too.

  • @mr.devil9577
    @mr.devil9577 3 роки тому +17

    Boggles my mind how people think Messier was the "greatest leader" in history when he demanded the C wherever he went. He put his ego ahead of his teammates and was a disgrace to the game dirty wise. He used his elbow so much it was disturbing. Not to mention he was a coke head too

  • @thefanconnection8633
    @thefanconnection8633 3 роки тому +110

    Guess Mark Messier disliked this masterpiece lol

  • @elden4142
    @elden4142 3 роки тому +21

    I believe Dustin Brown got stripped of his Captaincy, I thought you were going to do about him but, great vid !

    • @HectorHernandez-ts2sr
      @HectorHernandez-ts2sr 3 роки тому +3

      And look what happened to the Kings after that.

    • @pattygagne692
      @pattygagne692 3 роки тому +1

      @@HectorHernandez-ts2sr I don’t think you can chalk up the fallout of the kinds to brown being stripped😂 he wasn’t the same player anymore

    • @natanlevi1756
      @natanlevi1756 3 роки тому +1

      He def regressed but also didn’t deserve the strip. Very shocking also

  • @floundermuffin8102
    @floundermuffin8102 3 роки тому +8

    Neidermayer shouldn't be included on this list. Him and Selanne were thinking about retiring and didn't change their minds until halfway through the season. He wasn't stripped of the captain "C" because he was injured.

  • @milksheikh99
    @milksheikh99 3 роки тому +50

    Here is an idea: Players in the Hall Of Fame that least deserve it
    Love the vids like always

    • @niihh9613
      @niihh9613 3 роки тому +2

      vs players who are in the HOF but deserve it the least

    • @kaydencemcleod3558
      @kaydencemcleod3558 3 роки тому +14

      Definitely Wayne Gretzky, dude did nothing yet he's in the HoF

    • @JosephBallin8
      @JosephBallin8 3 роки тому +1

      @@kaydencemcleod3558 I know like he only scored 2000+ points like I could do that in 1 game

    • @sadrevolution
      @sadrevolution 3 роки тому

      Ouch.

    • @Yomasi
      @Yomasi 3 роки тому +1

      I know the other comments are meme picks, but here's a serious one:
      Harold Ballard
      Do I need to say anything else?

  • @robin1699
    @robin1699 3 роки тому +1

    My brother played in Medicine Hat the year after Rob Niedermayer left. He lived with the same billets Niedermayer lived with.
    That is not why I am posting. When I was at camp with my brother, I went to a Pancake House and there met Trevor Linden's father.
    He saw my mom's Tigers sweater and introduced himself. He casually said his son Jamie had recently played for Medicine Hat and that his older son also did and was (at that time) the captain of the Vancouver Canucks.
    That has forever stuck with me,

  • @downwithputinsaveukraine1313
    @downwithputinsaveukraine1313 3 роки тому +4

    Who doesn't love a little Trevor Linden?

    • @iix23
      @iix23 3 роки тому +1

      We had him in MTL for a few seasons at the end of his career. A Class act helping youngsters and leading by example. I wish we could have had 6 of him on the ice. :D

  • @beansquampton
    @beansquampton Рік тому +5

    Trevor Linden is forever one of my heroes in my heart. Hearing about his story always makes me smile but the trade... ugh.

  • @AskAScreenwriter
    @AskAScreenwriter 3 роки тому +8

    You missed a chance to talk about when it happened twice on the same team in the same season, again involving Mike Keenan.
    Coaching the St. Louis Blues in 1995-96, "Iron" Mike stripped superstar and Blues icon Brett Hull of the 'C' and gave it to Shayne Corson instead. Later that year, the Blues traded for All-time superstar Wayne Gretzky and Corson gave up the 'C' to him. Unfortunately. due to Keenan and the Blues playing hardball in contract talks the following Summer, the Great One departed for New York the next season.
    Keenan sure had a way of breaking up team leadership, didn't he?

  • @Kreege
    @Kreege Рік тому +1

    i attended a panthers @ lightning game in the early 2000s where luongo stopped 49 of 50 shots and the panthers beat the lightning 2-1. It was one of the most frustrating experiences i can recall as a hometown fan. He was a complete beast in those pre-lockout years. Shame they were wasted on those abysmal panthers teams

  • @lmnooz2756
    @lmnooz2756 Рік тому +1

    You could absolutely make a part 2 of this.
    - Brett Hull stripped in St Louis
    - Mike modano stripped in Dallas (and his wife Willa Ford trashed the Stars publicly).
    - Shayne Corson stripped in Edmonton and then 2 days later coach George Burnett was fired.

    • @chiefkeef74
      @chiefkeef74 Рік тому

      Stripping Modano of his captaincy was when i lost respect for the Stars ownership before Jim Nill (trading Erikson for Seguin was still a bullshit move)

  • @PetterHughes
    @PetterHughes 3 роки тому +10

    4:31 Woah Scott Niedermayer won a Vezina?!?! I didn't know he can play goalie

  • @dstcoyote22rants
    @dstcoyote22rants 3 роки тому +1

    When it comes to the Messier thing, there goes the joke:
    1993-94 - Messier prevents the Canucks from winning a Stanley Cup
    1998-01 - Messier prevents the Canucks from winning a Stanley Cup

  • @James-zg2nl
    @James-zg2nl 3 роки тому +2

    This is probably your most important video yet. Leadership is greatly under appreciated by the fan base, despite being a main focus of any decent management team. Growing up in BC our teachers in school always put Linden at the peek of leadership, the bar all leaders were measured by… then Messier comes in… yeah, you said it all perfectly. I have loads of respect for him but after what he did to my beloved team it proved that the best intentions can turn into a ‘mess’

  • @LordBhorak
    @LordBhorak 3 роки тому +59

    The situation in Canucks couldn't have been messier. Thank, Mark Messier.

    • @LimitR
      @LimitR Рік тому +1

      I think this is the greatest Hockey dad joke I've ever seen.

  • @DRANGOFEET
    @DRANGOFEET 3 роки тому +3

    If you haven't done this video yet, I think "The Most Random/Worst Captains in NHL History" would be a fun video. Great content as always!

    • @maxskogh6289
      @maxskogh6289 Рік тому

      Like Bryce Salvador for Devils. Which outsiders don't get why. He was a good locker room captain and a great example of a human being with all his charity work. A good guy who made people around him happy.

  • @ryanward3871
    @ryanward3871 3 роки тому +4

    Huge props for bringing up Trevor Linden. He's my favorite player of all time and it still hurts us Canucks fans to this day how he was treated. Not to mention getting fired as president years later

  • @romanwasyluszko5790
    @romanwasyluszko5790 3 роки тому +2

    Mark Messier: You all are fired!
    Mark Messier: Ill hire you guys just because
    Mike Keenan: Great! What would you like us to do for you?
    Mark Messier: Take that Linden guy's C and give it to me
    Mike Keenan: Is there anything else
    Messier: yeah maybe just throw him to some other team maybe he just should not be here at all
    Keenan: Alright, how is this trade: Todd Bertuzzi, Bryan McCabe, and a 3rd round pick
    Messier: sounds great
    ------a month later------
    Messier: Why are we so bad?
    Keenan: I don't know it makes no sense.
    Messier: You know what? I am gonna head out, have fun cleaning up this mess!
    Keenan: What the heck? Where are you going?
    Messier: I am going to the Rangers, See ya!
    Messier: you know what before I go, I'd kinda like to sue you, how about 6 mil? How does that sound?
    Keenan: What I thought we were friends, you traitor!
    Messier: Yeah I guess ill see you at Court

  • @michaelloder4657
    @michaelloder4657 3 роки тому +5

    Don’t forget messier wore 11 which is a known reserved number.

  • @GASYGames
    @GASYGames 3 роки тому +1

    I am no Kings fan, but I thought of Dustin Brown immediately when I saw your title!

  • @notdylancolley
    @notdylancolley 3 роки тому +2

    I would say Weber is one of the better examples of a true captain in the league. It's not always the player with the most points, but with the most courage, heart and dedication both on and off the ice.

    • @iix23
      @iix23 3 роки тому

      Weber is the guy you don't want to meet in the corner of the ice rink but would like to go to church with.

  • @sheeplehunter9651
    @sheeplehunter9651 2 роки тому +1

    Luongo has said he stepped down as captain, that it was never stripped from him.

  • @12lego25
    @12lego25 3 роки тому +5

    This guy named Darryl Sittler stripped the captaincy by himself because his teammate Lanny McDonald got traded to Calgary. (HE CUTTED THE C OFF THE JERSEY)

    • @Yomasi
      @Yomasi 3 роки тому

      Before that he also lost it because he believed in a player's union and Ballard didn't

    • @johnburns9634
      @johnburns9634 3 роки тому +1

      Lanny didn't go from Toronto to Calgary.
      He went to the Colorado Rockies hockey team.
      Which became the New Jersey Devils.
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Rockies_(NHL)

    • @12lego25
      @12lego25 3 роки тому +2

      @@johnburns9634 My bad

  • @saltywingsandavsfan
    @saltywingsandavsfan 3 роки тому +21

    Bobby Lou was the only reason why the Nucks were good along with the Sedins

    • @onthegrow8403
      @onthegrow8403 3 роки тому

      Ya luongo had nothing to do with it lol

    • @blade_20
      @blade_20 3 роки тому +3

      @@onthegrow8403 Either that is sarcasm or you dont know Bobby Lou's real name... Please for the love of all that is living, let it be the former

  • @joshualemieux7534
    @joshualemieux7534 3 роки тому +2

    You're absolutely wrong to say Weber is worse than Subban. Subban LOOKED better for one season after the trade, and that is it. Every year since, no fan, scout, player, coach or GM in the league would take PK over Weber.

    • @drumagus2258
      @drumagus2258 3 роки тому

      Some black people are good at hockey get over it.

    • @joshualemieux7534
      @joshualemieux7534 3 роки тому

      @@drumagus2258 wow, talk about the lowest level of intelligence to try and make it a race thing.

  • @ChicagoBlackhawksfan
    @ChicagoBlackhawksfan 25 днів тому

    Not the Sedins dancing, I completely forgot about that commercial 9:27

  • @PuthSardaraDha
    @PuthSardaraDha 3 роки тому +2

    “Talent is never enough”
    - John C Maxwell

  • @proceid6709
    @proceid6709 2 роки тому +1

    Shea Webers leadership wasn’t the reason why we came back against the leafs or even made the finals… Carey Price was 😂💀

  • @dstcoyote22rants
    @dstcoyote22rants 3 роки тому

    It wasn't injuries with Niedermayer, it was because he (and Teemu Selanne - who was a free agent) decided not to play at the start of the 07-08 season. Both Scott and Teemu couldn't decide if they wanted to retire, and because Scott was still under contract, he was formally suspended when he didn't report to training camp. He didn't officially return until that December (and Teemu back in February). So in Anaheim's position, I wouldn't blame them for having Pronger take the C that season.

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  3 роки тому

      Yes, and I should've done a better job explaining the entire situation. But you also left out the context that Scott was recruited specifically to lead and captain the Ducks when they were a non playoff team. He single handedly elevated them to cup finish within 3 years, and was stripped within months of winning because he was contemplating retirement. Not to mention that only 2 years later Scott would captain the Vancouver 2010 team, that was made up of only captains and the best leaders in the league. It was more so the disrespect to even think about removing him as captain. If Tavares debated retirement next year, would they instantly remove it within months? Absolutely not, and especially not back in 2007.

    • @dstcoyote22rants
      @dstcoyote22rants 3 роки тому

      @@RobTalksHockey yes, he was brought in to lead, but he wasn’t just contemplating retirement, he was not showing up! Being stripped of captaincy because you’re suspended and not playing is a good reason for management to say “okay, we gotta move on as best we can from this situation he and Teemu created.”
      Perhaps when he did come back he decided to not to take the C back out of respect for Pronger, or maybe Carlyle was sending him a message, but yes, we can both agree, Pronger was no Niedermayer. The dude was fun to watch, as was that entire 06-07 team - I was actually there when they won the Cup.

  • @NHLfan96
    @NHLfan96 3 роки тому +4

    Happened to Thornton and Marleau two Sharks captains in a row

    • @onthegrow8403
      @onthegrow8403 3 роки тому

      Joe Thornton was not stripped of the c he stepped down GM said he was not captain material

  • @kiker0909
    @kiker0909 3 роки тому +2

    Dustin Brown was done dirty.

    • @Chrinchy
      @Chrinchy 3 роки тому +1

      I always assumed he agreed since he was clearly tired and needed some weight taken off of his shoulders. I don't think he was upset about it.

  • @gkarenko9593
    @gkarenko9593 3 роки тому +1

    I heard Meester forced them to give him a number that was retired and people didn't like that move either.

    • @grangerjung4129
      @grangerjung4129 2 роки тому

      Number 11 was unofficially retired by the team, so they allowed the POS to take it, over the objections of the family of the player who wore it, Wayne Maki, who died of a brain tumor. Ownership was also crap in those days, having taken over from the Griffiths family.

  • @generalbullmoose
    @generalbullmoose 3 роки тому +1

    Theoren Fleury. Brian Leetch. Mike Modano. All great players who were handed the captaincy of their teams by default, and all proved to be not up to the task.

  • @deeformed2475
    @deeformed2475 3 роки тому +8

    You forgot one fact about Shea Weber. Him + puck at the point + clear shot = Goalie crapping their pants

    • @sneakyninjaedit
      @sneakyninjaedit 3 роки тому +1

      Defenders and his own players too!
      Weber's shot: "Blood for the Blood God"

  • @charlie9ine
    @charlie9ine 3 роки тому +1

    Being inside the Niedermayer family, Scott did not miss most of the regular season because of any injury. He was seriously considering retirement.

    • @krog21
      @krog21 2 роки тому

      It's amazing how much a little research would improve videos like these.

  • @MyMW3Channel
    @MyMW3Channel Рік тому

    You'll often get flack if you're not Corporate's designates leader, but everyone else looks to you as a leader.

  • @crispcoffee7958
    @crispcoffee7958 3 роки тому

    I got stripped of my C in varsity. A girl falsely accused me of rape and my coach decided it'd be best for the team if I didn't wear a letter. The girl ended up moving towns after everyone realized she lied, she also caught the clap from some dirt bag so justice was served boys. Im living my best life 10 years later and have found a good honest girl to be with.

  • @ianjohnson8501
    @ianjohnson8501 3 роки тому

    The bangers just keep rolling out. Great video!

  • @jacobschmor7902
    @jacobschmor7902 3 роки тому +1

    And now Weber has captained them to the finals!!!

  • @Matthews34
    @Matthews34 3 роки тому +5

    Hey RTH, how about a video about 1 season wonders (Part 2)?

  • @stevewest5397
    @stevewest5397 2 роки тому +2

    Yeah, as a Canucks fan growing up, I remember the Mess that Messier made. My dad never liked him, even in his Oilers days. Always said he was a dirty player. Then he comes in and guts the Canucks? He is not liked in the West household.

  • @willp.6093
    @willp.6093 3 роки тому +7

    Jack Eichel

    • @fqlsify
      @fqlsify 3 роки тому +1

      Jacque Eicelle

  • @noahpetherbridge5127
    @noahpetherbridge5127 2 роки тому +1

    I would argue that Steve Yzerman is the ultimate leader/captain over Messier. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a toss-up at best, and I’m biased as a Michigander. But he’s literally THE Captain. Might have half the cups but he built the Lightning that won 2 cups, and he’s back home in Detroit now, building more Stanley Cup teams. The quintessential captain. THE. Captain.

    • @noahpetherbridge5127
      @noahpetherbridge5127 2 роки тому

      Yanno, now, I’ve got a video suggestion. Give us a top 5 or top 10 of NHL captains in history 😂 it’ll spark a truckload of discussion and arguments in the comments and warrant at least some sort of sequel video.

  • @unholy7324
    @unholy7324 3 роки тому +2

    Yo Rob, this got my wife and I talking about team chemistry and production. I'd/we'd really love to see you do a series of > great players on the wrong team. < Like take for example Vrana and Mantha. 2 players that weren't really producing then got traded and hit their new teams running. There's way more examples. Martinez and Toffoli.

  • @dailymotiv8_992
    @dailymotiv8_992 Рік тому

    Although goalie is the most important position in hockey I also think that since they are defending the goal 100% of the time, they see the game from a completely different angle than the attackers. Which is why I think a captain should be an attacker, because he is able to talk with his team at all times, and see the game the same way.

  • @sebastienhamelbourdeau9009
    @sebastienhamelbourdeau9009 3 роки тому

    For Niedermayer be careful because Chris Pronger was joining the Ducks right after having been traded to edmonton and lost in the 2006 scf

  • @brockrobson4295
    @brockrobson4295 3 роки тому +1

    Dustin Brown losing his C to Anze Kopitar? I'm surprised that didn't merit mention.

  • @williamwoodsworth441
    @williamwoodsworth441 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Rob, great video, in light of the recent Habs destiny run, I think a video about the greatest underdog runs in NHL history would be good. Or an NHL greatest rookies or breakout seasons would be awesome too!

  • @princeofpcos9804
    @princeofpcos9804 3 роки тому +1

    Nieds thought about retiring all that summer. I even remember him holding a press conference only to say he will have an update at another press conference down the road. Also remember Burkie being visibly frustrated while saying Nieds has earned that right to take his time. Couldn't wait forever and Pronger was a leader anyway so it was pretty much a no-brainer out of necessity and not so much a stripping.

  • @connizle2586
    @connizle2586 3 роки тому +1

    best hockey channel ive seen in a long time 👍

  • @whisperienced
    @whisperienced Рік тому

    We all remember when Scott Niedermayer won the Vezina.

  • @isaacwest276
    @isaacwest276 2 роки тому +1

    To be fair, Pronger is an incredible leader. Look what he did in one season with the Oilers

  • @andrewdavis7620
    @andrewdavis7620 2 роки тому +1

    the notion that weber was statistically worse than subban at the time of the trade is blatantly and objectively false, in a one for one weber even as the older player had more trade value. goals and assists are cool but theyre defensemen and weber is twice as good as subban defensively, no amount of points will offset that

  • @martharunstheworld
    @martharunstheworld Рік тому

    Not my team but the most controversial captaincy stripping has got to be that of Patrick Marleau to Joe Thornton in the Sharks. That divided the Sharks' fanbase into two bases and they would never be brought together until the last couple of years.

  • @gavinrector6505
    @gavinrector6505 3 роки тому

    This video is amazing. Can't wait till you 100k

  • @natemundt4752
    @natemundt4752 3 роки тому +4

    Captain Serious Jonny Toews. He's the sole reason why I fell in love with the Hawks

  • @coreymoorey8093
    @coreymoorey8093 3 роки тому +1

    On the topic of captains, could you maybe do a video on the revolving door of captains that happened in San Jose with Thornton, Pavelski, and Marleau?

  • @andrewfreeland7084
    @andrewfreeland7084 3 роки тому +1

    No Dustin Brown? Something happened in LA.

  • @unstoppablesaturnstudios4773
    @unstoppablesaturnstudios4773 3 роки тому

    I love your channel! You should do a video of what draft class you think would win in a playoffs against eachother from 2000-2010

  • @rangerpr8ductionz362
    @rangerpr8ductionz362 3 роки тому +6

    Mine is Mark Stone because he is the only,a video idea is worst suspensions or non suspensions ever and keep up the great vids!!

  • @CMTT
    @CMTT 3 роки тому

    Being the best player, does not automatically mean they are leaders. (Before the rebuild ) I talk to training staff in the Canucks locker room, who claimed that after linden as captain, communication broke down from the top players down. That's what I've been told. Take it or leave it. After captain linden, Vancouver had terrible leaders who didn't communicate with the confidence that captains need

  • @Antateur
    @Antateur 3 роки тому

    Broke my heart as a Canucks fan when Roberto Luongo didn't win the Stanley Cup in 2011. He never was the same after that last appearance. It seems that we are just never lucky when it comes to the Stanley Cup Finals.

    • @krog21
      @krog21 2 роки тому

      The entire team imploded during the finals, but he was especially dreadful in the finals. Boston scored a lot of terrible goals during the finals. No sympathy for Lou whatsoever. He should have won the Conn Smythe because he was that valuable...to the Bruins.

  • @mkslave9108
    @mkslave9108 2 роки тому

    Always great content. Keep sending it. Appreciate 👍

  • @jjbling1231
    @jjbling1231 3 роки тому +1

    You should do a video on the dirtiest players and add up how many games they missed from suspension and how much money was fined from them throughout their careers.

  • @M47-t2v
    @M47-t2v 2 роки тому +1

    I’m confused.
    Did you say Scott Neidermeyer won a Vezina?
    Not possible 😂

  • @darrellmackinnon1667
    @darrellmackinnon1667 3 роки тому +3

    Pavelski is a solid 1
    Also, I can't get behind the Shea Weber comments in the video. Overall much better dman, than PK. Preds core slowed down in offensive skill. He saw impact. Happens. I'd still take him over Ryan Ellis, and Mathias Ekholm, any day. The league has enough Erik Karlssons and Quinn Hughes. Great offensively, but defensively..a liability.

    • @notdylancolley
      @notdylancolley 3 роки тому

      Couldn't agree with you more.

    • @darrellmackinnon1667
      @darrellmackinnon1667 3 роки тому

      @@notdylancolley No bias, im a ducksfan, and my favorite player is Bergeron. Crosby is the best overall player in the league (Actively) and Mcdavid is the best offensively, the league has seen since Gretzky/Lemieux.

    • @notdylancolley
      @notdylancolley 3 роки тому

      @@darrellmackinnon1667 Yeah Bergeron has always had my respect. Crosby is definitely big overall, and yes McDavid with no doubt takes the offensive side of things.

    • @darrellmackinnon1667
      @darrellmackinnon1667 3 роки тому

      @@notdylancolley oof, comment unliked, my feelings

    • @RobTalksHockey
      @RobTalksHockey  3 роки тому

      I was referring to the time of the trade, not today haha!

  • @shandomassey8634
    @shandomassey8634 3 роки тому

    This seems like a hide for "I really wanted to talk about the messed up af messier days"....
    And I applaud you.
    And the other guy was from my hometown (Niedermayer) so that was cool as well.
    This video was great 👍

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 3 роки тому +8

    Maybe with a new coach the NY Rangers will actually name a captain.

    • @susiesanchez6405
      @susiesanchez6405 3 роки тому

      Idk, gallant didn't name a captain in vgk. It might take a while. I think Panarin might get it. What do you think?

    • @rickseiden1
      @rickseiden1 3 роки тому

      @@susiesanchez6405 Mika carried the team before Panarin got there. He deserves it. I think he's already acting a captain anyway.

  • @bryantramos2382
    @bryantramos2382 3 роки тому

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I do believe Scott Niedermayer retired after the ducks won to Stanley cup and then decided to come back. That's why Pronger had the C the owing season.

  • @hockeyfan1988
    @hockeyfan1988 3 роки тому

    Underrated superstars video, martin st louis and vincent lecavalier in tampa for example.

  • @jok3r906
    @jok3r906 3 роки тому

    A video about crazy NHL facts that some have never heard of would be pretty cool

  • @hockeyperson36
    @hockeyperson36 3 роки тому

    I love watching your videos, keep it up

  • @davidbenchabat843
    @davidbenchabat843 3 роки тому +1

    Not true bout scotty niedermayer. He didnt know if he still wanted to play

  • @The-Dom
    @The-Dom 2 роки тому

    Switching the C from Neidermyer while he was out indefinitely was probably the right thing, so was giving it back to him.

  • @rickseiden1
    @rickseiden1 3 роки тому +1

    I know I'm late here. Didn't Messier demand that he get number 11 despite it being retired by the Canucks?

  • @dillon6320
    @dillon6320 3 роки тому +1

    Weber was never worse than Subban. You can’t just look at points for a defenseman and even then Subban averaged like 5-10 points more early on. Weber was always the better defensive defenseman. The main job of a DEFENSEman. Both have had great careers in their own right though.

    • @iix23
      @iix23 3 роки тому

      Being from MTL, I wasn't one that burned his shirt when Subban got traded. Don't get me wrong. He gave 10 million$ to the children's hospital when he signed big and he still honored his commitment after he was traded. He wasn't a bad man.
      MTL is a traditional team. I would go as far as a conservative team. Guy Lafleur was retired because he talked too much (Came back 5 years later with the Rangers). It just wasn't a great fit. You also have to remember that The Bell center has been sold out for the last 20 years so, we don't rely on a player to fill the seats.
      Weber is the perfect example of a MTL player. A quiet force. follows the party line. Represents the team before he represents himself. I have never read an article in the newspaper about him that wasn't related to the team.

    • @dillon6320
      @dillon6320 3 роки тому

      @@iix23 I loved Subban. He’s flashy, he was a star. But he was a cancer in the room and it’s not really his fault. It’s just his personality is too big for a lot of people especially when they’re teammates and together almost all the time. I’m sure when they had losing seasons they didn’t want to hear Subban giving them shit and making a joke out of everything instead of taking things seriously.

  • @pierre-juliendaoust1351
    @pierre-juliendaoust1351 3 роки тому +1

    You should make a video about players who got better after a injury (ex: Gallagher)

  • @brandondewar2643
    @brandondewar2643 2 роки тому

    A video on, why the Toronto maple leafs fail. A timelime from when they lost in conforence finals all the way to this last season

  • @simonmarshall19
    @simonmarshall19 3 роки тому

    The leafs made the worst trades ever . Two first round draft picks . To New Jersey (Scott Niedermayer) for Tom Kurvers . To the NY Islanders (Roberto Luongo) for Wendal Clark & Matthew Schneider.

  • @theneo7305
    @theneo7305 3 роки тому

    In the Weber situation it’s just that he got traded and someone on the Canadians already had the captain said they would’ve made him captain in the moment that the player who had it at the time Pacioretty was gone

  • @dannythomas417
    @dannythomas417 3 роки тому

    Roberto Luongo is the Brienne of NHL. Women can’t be knights and goalies can’t be captains, ‘cause of tradition.

  • @gianlucamelfi7284
    @gianlucamelfi7284 3 роки тому +3

    Can you do a why were 34 players drafted before Sebastian aho

    • @willp.6093
      @willp.6093 3 роки тому

      It’s pretty simple actually. He’s just not good at hockey

    • @carlosv9208
      @carlosv9208 3 роки тому +1

      Because my team drafts elite hall of fame forwards like Zach senyshyn and Jake DeBrusk

  • @im.waldo.
    @im.waldo. 3 роки тому

    Im a hardcore preds fan and my dads a hardcore Montreal fan. I still complain to him about that trade. PK deserves to be signed by ESPN

  • @Chrinchy
    @Chrinchy 3 роки тому

    You should do a video of teams that have had the most draft picks in the first round through their entire NHL history to teams that haven't. Or all draft picks not just the first round, unless you wanted to make more videos on it. Or even which team had the most draft picks in one draft season vs which team had the least.

  • @JadenJDH
    @JadenJDH Рік тому +1

    Forgot Dustin Brown