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Read an article by Jarrett Bailey called THE TOMLIN PROBLEM. And as far as i am concerned, Tomlin should be told to step down after the 2025 draft is completed. A kinder act to a man who is overrated. He is just a coordinator at best. A great motivator? But his team hasn't had success in the playoffs resulting in no AFC CHAMPIONSHIP games in a long while.
Do not be fooled. Tomlin is a genius. Unless your team is going to be #1 seed, there's no point in worrying how the cards fall after that, because homefield advantage truly matters for the division championship. So, here's the genius of Mike Tomlin. The primary goal was to clinch the playoffs before the start of the last quarter of the season. Knowing that he faced great teams across a 3 game stretch in unfair 11 day period, Tomlin decided to experiment with those games. The last quarter of the season was going to turn out one of two ways for the Steelers no matter what. They would be facing teams that they already know that they can beat, Chargers, Broncos, and Ravens. They know they can beat these teams is because they did beat each of those teams this season. This is why he took a calculated risk to test his team against the toughest teams on their schedule, Eagles, Ravens, and Chiefs. Basically, he measured how successful certain schemes, sub packages, and players against these teams. Now, this does not mean they did not try to win those games, but if they lost they would walk into the playoffs knowing exactly what their strengths and weaknesses are that will give them best chance to win against any of the following playoff opponents. Texans, Charges, Broncos, and Ravens. As of right now, the Steelers have a higher probability of playing the Texans. With all this in mind, the Steelers are right where they want to be. If they dominate against the Bengals then that means they have utilized their last three losses effectively. Steelers fan must be patient and wait for the Playoffs to see how this will shake out. If they lose in the Wild Card, then heads should roll, but for now, everyone need to hold their horses and watch the magic unfold before their eyes.
@@tyl1186when you are done with whatever your smoking pass it to me, because we are not doing anything in the playoffs but lose the first game. This is Tomlin football 1 and done
@CharlesMasterTech Thanks for responding. By the way, I am very sober, and I do not indulge in an activity that intoxicates my pristine vessel. With that out of the way, you must learn to speak life over others. There's a known psychological phenomenon where people tend to perform better when they are expected to do so. Changing head coaches will set this team back a few years, and we are getting closer to becoming legitimate contenders. Don't get me wrong, I understand it's frustrating to see the Steelers lose three games in a row, but there's always a silver lining. Their first-round playoff opponents are teams that the Steelers can beat. At worst, they'll play the Texans; at best, they'll play the Chargers. Do you really believe the Steelers can not beat those two teams?
His Superbowl win was with Dick Labeau and Cowhers team . It's been a slow down descent ever since! Never gonna change! Steelers Nation deserves better.
@@cuzheavy4079yes and no. He inherited two pro bowlers with Woodson and Dawson. Other than that Cowher built the team. Compare this with Tomlin inherited Big Ben, Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, James Farrior, Heath Miller, Santino Holmes, Willie Parker, Hines Ward. That's just the pro bowlers and not to mention that Tomlin inherent Cowher's coaching staff. It's not really no comparison to what Cowher inherent to what Tomlin inherent. Plus look at Cowher's coaching tree compared to Tomlin. Bruce Arians, Dick Lebeau, John Fox, Dom Capers....Tomlin? ....not one guy. They ain't the same
I can understand he has never had a losing season but it means nothing whatsoever. If you can't make it to the playoffs and definitely if you can't make it to the super bowl, all those winning seasons mean nothing at all. Time for a new coach, a coach that can get us to the super bowl
@@leegoddard9868Exactly. Never having losing season has actually hurt the team more than helped it. Never good enough to be a SB contender, but just good enough to never have a high draft pick. This is Pittsburgh, where "winning seasons" mean Super Bowls and postseason success. You didn't make the playoffs? To Steeler nation you had a losing season. You get bounced in the 1st round? To Steeler nation you had a losing season. You get smoked in a playoff game in that you were favored to win? To Steeler nation you had a losing season. As Tomlin says, the standard is the standard, and in Pittsburgh the standard ISN'T going .500 or better only to shit the bed in the postseason.
Well hold on now, we ain’t even close to complete. We’re too young. Our best db is literally 23! We’re gonna sign more WRs, dbs and another offensive linemen this time around and be more complete.
@@JesseGray-ce6fi Sticking with the same coaching staff around Tomlin is going to have the same results. I’m tired of mediocrity under mediocre Tomlin and Rooney won’t fire him! He doesn’t have the balls to do it!
Doesn't Matter how many times M.T has winning seasons. It means nothing if you only win one superbowl He needs to be Fired This team has no chance of turning things around this season
You watched the film. The highest paid defence looked like complete dog shit. We had Flores in the building and let him walk. There are some serious flaws in this organization
I'm okay with getting beat. I'm even okay with getting crushed. I'm not okay with quitting. I stood up for Tomlin for a long time, but I lost so much respect after the Chiefs game.
@ They didn’t quit…they were exhausted…beat down from playing their 3rd tier team. They got beat by the Eagles. He said he was ok with getting beat and/or crushed. By the time they got to Chiefs they were exhausted from playing the first two top tier teams and all the traveling to those two away games. Tough schedule within 11 days. That’s all it is to it. Now…if they lose to the Bengals, I might see it differently.
@@marcderogatis8513 Tbh not even a glorified cheerleader, he's a terrible ass one consider his team is turning against themselves now and he can't instill discipline in people like Pickens 😂😂😂😂
I@steelerscountry422 I don't think Terry Bradshaw should have said what he said, I think it was unprofessional to say that. But the standard is winning championships. Non-Losing seasons (18) is commendable, I'm not taking anything away from that. But I think Mike Tomlin has taken this team as far as he is going to. And the recent criticism over the previous two years is long overdue. He has done a poor job evaluating DB/CB's, and his Coordinators and position Coaches have been horrible. I wouldn't be surprise if they dropped these last two games, ending the year on a five game losing streak. His playoff record is atrocious! And any other coach in the NFL would have been fired years ago. It's time for a change.
Same crap as it was with AB with Pickens and where's Queen and JPJ been. DEf. NOT LOCKED IN. selfish unfocused BS and Tomlin has always let us down when it counts!
Always winning is mediocre huh? Tell me, who are you gonna bring in as your HC? You think the NFL is just floating in head coaches that can produce winning seasons with QB rooms like Pickett, Rudolf, and Trubisky?
As a hard-core Steeler fan I'm tired of being dominated by every good team in every division with the exception of the AFC NORTH. TOMLIN gets outcoached by all the top coaches in all other divisions period. EVERY SEASON
He is a micro manager. Players coach/ friend. We don’t need a cheerleader/ motivational leader, that is some college shit. We need A guy that says do your damn job that you are overpaid to do correctly or you will sit. We need an offensive minded coach as well.
What talent did he waste, the triple B's had an old aging defense, what talent have they had the last few years..they have 3 or 4 stars, everyone else are average or below average players
Where was all of this fire Tomlin talk for the first 13 games of the season? We have so many fair weather fans claiming that they love this football team.
I think sometimes we forget that this team is not like other teams like the browns, raiders etc.. where having a winning season or getting a playoff appearance is more than good enough. The standard should always be being actual contenders for the sb but under Tomlin the team always falls flat (in recent and previous years), the defense is never good enough when we play good/elite teams even though its Tomlins area, the offense in recent years has been awful, he always gets outcoached in big games and this will never change, we might be able to win a playoff game in the next years but winning a sb under him is out of the picture. People can blame it on players or coaches but year after year the standard remains the same and that is mediocrity
Way to write all that and still not have any point whatsoever. You've said nothing of value. Just basically a bunch of talking points from the fire tomlin crowd. However they're all stupid as hell and youre regurgitating they're talking points.
I'm not certain of the master motivator bit. I understand what you're saying, to some extent, but on the other hand, he's lost the locker room more than once in the past few years at this point in the season. That doesn't happen if everybody is on the same page, and that's definitely not the case right now, nor was it a few years ago with plenty of locker room rumblings and frustration. Part of that is his telling to the press that there will be changes made, with nothing of significance resulting from them. Canada's firing last year, for example, took way too long.
@SteelersTV Jack the most important fact you stated.....is that we are a GOOD football team. Which exposes the fact that we are not a GREAT football team and thats why we arent winning anything this year because in the afc alone there are three GREAT football teams ahead of us🤷♂️ I want tomlin gone because we have not had consistent wr or cb drafting be anything more than AVERAGE in quite sometime and the guys who do make that level are not consistent in game.
It's way overdue to tell Tomlin his system isn't working.. Time for Tomlin to get on his TUGBOAT and head on down the Allegheny River and don't look back.. 1st stop is too pick up Wilson and tell him he's not worth no 30 million next year to sign with Pittsburgh..Now we no why Denver let him go..washed up QB..
The Rooney's should be tired of the same song and dance from Mike Tomlin. What are they, blind in one eye and can't see out of the other? Fire Mike Tomlin and get it over with!!!!
Needs to learn how to win without getting takeaways. Teams success is totally reliant on that fact. Any coach that takes care of the ball dominates us. HANDICAPPED
Tomlin is a horrible coach that makes stupid decisons. On top of that he dosent dicipline his players. The only thing he cares about is not having a loosing season
Imagine if they lose next week. That would be 4 straight loses going into the playoffs. That is not good. And that last game is against the Bengals. Not a easy game.
It’s the same old same old like we need to get over the hump and start really making a run at something. We can’t blame quarterbacks. We can’t blame offensive coordinators. We have to point the finger where the finger need to be pointed at.
@RCcarkillerJD well Russell wilson threw atleast one interception these last few weeks. He hasn't been hitting any passes. You cant blame the QB? How stupid are you
@@josejh-eb8stHe’s a cheerleader, He can’t coach, He can’t teach his players how to tackle right, He’s bad at challenge flags, Clock Management, He has no coaching tree, etc.
Jack, I agree with you 99% of the time, but please STOP saying MT is a " Master Motivator"!!! They are NEVER ready, ALWAYS get off to a slow start EVERY game, and NEVER win on a short week!!!! ALL FACTS!! So please stop saying this, it is so freakin annoying!!! P.S. For anyone thinking the team that started "The Rooney Rule" will EVER fire MT, think again, will never happen!! MT and his whole staff should go!! Boring and predictable!!
Not gonna make it past the first playoff game it's gonna be the same ole same ole.Russell isn't the future QB , offensive line needs better players, Tomlin can't get them past playoffs anymore. Need another wr,
I saw a documentary about Bill Parcels. He said something like I don't get paid to motivate you. If you can't motivate yourself you're outta there. Players hated Bill. Bradshaw hated knoll. That's what winning coaches are about. Results!!!
I want to know where that 10-3 football went.Sure,GP is our best deep threat but we have other good receivers but don’t get them the ball.I think the OC is no better than what we had last year.
Ask yourself why ? Tomlin likes keep subpar coordinators around so he doesn’t have competition for his job. That’s why we have Austin instead of Flores.
I think Tomlin’s coaching tenure has had its ups and downs. I appreciate his “don’t blink” mentality and his insistence in “the standard being the standard”. Every locker room, at some point, does need a change of voices, and every coach needs a change of scenery as well. Despite Andy Reid’s success in Philly, the change was necessary for both him and his former team, and they both have the Lombardi’s to prove it. I’m thankful for all Tomlin has accomplished and all he represents, but I think the time is approaching for that change. I believe that he and the Steelers will both get that next Lombardi- just not together.
Tomlin, is a great motivational speaker , and I think the intention is there. But the Rooney's relationship and attachment to him is getting in the way . Something needs to change now, and it starts with the head coach !
Mediocre is all he is. Took an already Superbowl roster and got a ring but as that teams players went so did Tomlins PLAYOFF SUCCESS. He didn't even have success with the Ben, Bell, and Brown combo man and he gas stuck us at a CEILING of regular season mediocrity.
Tomlin is not the coach everone thinks he is the same old BS year after year but no one wants to fire this man he gets out coached time after time makes no ajustments anytime time foe him to go before it is to late it almost to late now. Steeler fans should have much better.
Keep Tomlin IF he hires an imaginative OC and DC and LET THEM RUN THEIR AREAS including game management. Confine Tomlin to strategic decisions and personnel development.
As a leader of any business, you need smart people around you, even if their thoughts may differ from yours. If your thinking is control driven, you will fail. Obviously I am not in the building, but I feel that there are too many "yes men" involved...and we can all see the results of that thought process.
Man, you can't talk right now about firing our coach! We about to go into the playoffs. We had 3 bad losses but we have some time to rest and get it together. My confidence is not as high as it was but we still in it to win it if we can turn things around right now and stay healthy. Tomlin took a lot of subpar teams to playoff berths, so we werent expecting too much in playoff teams. You cant ignore that fact later on and say he lost a lot in playoffs. Many of those teams were injury riddled too. Man, it is what it is.
Mediocre Mike will blow the game against the bengals and it will be the most embarrassing 4 game late losing collapse. We will get destroyed in the playoffs.
the steelers were pick to finish last in AFC NORTH! not first! Coach Tomlin spoils a lot of fake Steelers Fans!😂😂 when guys fumble the ball it may be a player issue not a coaching issue. Fake Steelers fans dont understand this simple fact is the Steelers fire Coach Tomlin every NFL team will seek his services! Funny how this season started, with everyone screaming, the Steelers will not win 6 games! SMH
Yeah we’re so spoiled, we’re the best of the worst teams in the league every year. Tomlin is so good that no coaches from his coaching tree ever get hired anywhere else 😂🤡
If the browns weren’t a complete mess the Steelers very well could have been in last . The Bengals are going to beat the Steelers . Tell me do you think teams are more afraid of burrow and the bengals or Tomlins team come playoff time .
One thing that has always stood out to me about Tomlin is how he stepped out onto the field at one time to interfere with the opposing teams player that was a total tell on his character! I lost respect for him at that moment, which I have never gained back. However, if he can turn this thing around and get them deep into the playoffs, he could earn my respect back , and probably a lot of other people’s as well!
Regardless of circumstances, rosters, expectations, draft picks, and any other variable you want to throw in, there is one reality. Excluding Marvin Lewis, Tomlin has the longest consecutive season streak for one team in nfl history to not win a playoff game and still coach for the same team. His streak is 7 years on one team without a playoff win. If he fails this year to win a playoff game, he will be in sole possession of most consecutive seasons coached without a playoff win for one team at 8. Also, I am well aware that Tomlin is far from the only aspect of this team, because they still need to rebuild at qb, runningback, cornerback, etc. But when overly optimistic fans tell me that the team should just keep him because he hasn't truly had a bad season, I have to chuckle a bit. I'll examine the records for Pittsburgh since the 2012 season to further explain what I mean. 2012-13: 8-8 missed the playoffs 2013-14: 8-8 missed the playoffs 2014-15: 11-5 lost in 1st round 2015-16: 10-6 lost in 2nd round (won 1 playoff game) 2016-17: 11-5 lost in 3rd round (won 2 playoff games) 2017-18: 13-3 lost in 2nd round (had 1st round bye so no playoff win) 2018-19: 9-6-1 missed playoffs 2019-20: 8-8 missed playoffs 2020-21: 12-4 lost in 1st round 2021-22: 9-7-1 lost in 1st round 2022-23: 9-8 missed playoffs 2023-24: 10-7 lost in 1st round 2024-25: 10-6 season pending ●Of these seasons, three of them were not actually winning seasons at 8-8. ●Six of these seasons were at or barely over .500. ●Of these seasons, only one season has Tomlin had a 1st round bye. ●Only 2 of these seasons has Tomlin hit 12 wins which by most standards is the mark of an elite team. ●They have not won a division title in 4 seasons. ●Lastly, they have been in one AFC championship in the last 13 seasons. The last one is less recent than the Jacksonville Jaguars. What's the conclusion? While Tomlin's teams have generally been in contention for the playoffs, only maybe two to three of those teams were true Superbowl contenders in the last 13 to 14 years. That's not to say Tomlin has done a bad job but rather he has hit his ceiling as a head coach and after 18 seasons he only offers so much to this team that he hasn't already accomplished.
@ it’s not about the best of the worst. It’s all about putting the puzzle pieces together, progress can take fickle turns at points but it has yet to meld and or mesh together
How locked in can we be if the defense is dropping ints that hit them right in the face? If the secondary is consistently blowing assignments? If we as fans can see that bishop is better than Sutton, and Warren is better than Harris, but Coach refuses to make the obvious changes? I appreciate the portion fan base that’s giving him SO much grace, but enough is enough. He needs to be held accountable sooner rather than later
A lot of Sad Sack teams go from coach to coach to coach can't get it done. The Steelers stay with one coach and can't get it done and a coattail SB does not count
The issues - 1. A habit of holding on to really bad back-up QBs for way too long. 2. Failure to slowly renew O-line, instead allowing the whole thing to age out. 3. Poor coaching and scheming in secondary. Even when we have had talented CBs, the secondary sucked and has relied on star safeties to keep us in the fight. 4. A lot of poor choices for coaches. 5. Fear of change. Lebeau's D became predicatable, but at least he was the architect. Now we keep trying to run that same idea with different coaches. It is not those coaches idea, it is still predictable, and it is not well executed. 6. Let me mention the secondary woes again - I miss Troy. 7. A lack of fire and urgency from Mike in the late minutes. No inspiration, push, fire to come back in the end. 8. The assumption of Tomlin's greatness because he has managed to be at 500 or better - but look at the talent he has had. He didn't go to Superbowl when he had a good D, the best QB, RB, WR and TE combo in the game. Ben had back to back 6 td games ffs. 9. Thinking Ben was done, Duck wasn't worth keeping, not giving Pickens a real chance all because rather than having an O-line, we had a NO-line. Watch the games closely. There are those giving it their all plus some, and others just LAZY. When that goes on and on, it all goes back to the HC. Tomlin isn't terrible, but he isn't great. We need great.
The caliber of our coach is abnormal, Mike is that top 10% coach that you rarely get. The Steelers have had three consecutive coaches that are very good. Though I will say coach Cower for years worked hard with inept quarterbacks. We can go back to our scrambling quarterback in Kordell etc. and see the issues. There are only a couple coaches in the league I would consider better than Mike. However, I must tell you a quarterback is the coach stand in on the field. This person needs to be given the leadership role with full confidence, and all the other players should know it. If any other player has issues and attempts to be alpha over the quarterback then it is up to Tomlin to watch and nurture the quarterback into the top Alpha position, there is what we call chemistry and the best chemistry gives the best results. We consistently see the respect that the quarterback receives in Kansas City, this man sounds like Kermit the frog, and does a lot of crazy shit most of us would scratch our heads over, but he has repeated successes. We watched this with Rothlisberger, and had some success as well. if there was no time measurement and you could go back in time then we would have to not only fire Mike we would also have to fire Bill. Yes the caliber of our coach is equal if not better than Bill Keller. I will submit that if Mike coaches for years to come he will surpass Bill easily. This is when I start asking what is this really about? I think fans need to stop. If there is anything that Bill and Mike do is make occasional clubs in coaching, or they allow their coaches they are over club. I mean there are plenty of instances for instance taking chance on fourth down when it is not necessary early in a game. Both have done this. It is rare but it has been done. I also believe it has cost us the game and a few instances. Other than that the area where we need to reinforce his offensive line around the pocket and the quarterback and his wide receivers. We have a decent defense we have the Iron Curtain when it is healthy it is perfect. If anything we need to reinforce our secondary so they can play better than they do and what I mean by secondary is our B team. I am bothered that we only have one wide receiver that is a consistent threat, this is inappropriate and I blame it on the owner not the coaches. We can do much better and we also need to have a more established set of options to draw from in plays. We are becoming too predictable over the past five games. I know when we're going to run and I know when we're going to pass and that is a big problem against teams like Kansas City, the Eagles, the ravens, the commanders, the Lions, the Vikings etc. I also fully believe that when we see and record a team that does several plays and they do it well we should be looking to mimic those plays because of their consistent successes against various teams. I've seen certain moving plays with the Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs that I admire that our team should be mimicking. Yes we should be surfing these moving interference plays that open up the spot pass or whatever you wanna call it into a deep run because we have everybody in place to cause interference and block. They are superb at this in Kansas City.
One mahomes is better than 10 good defensive players. Only takes one of them to screw up the most expensive defense in NFL. Tomlin philosophy is outdated. Looks like ownership is more interested in the brand then winning. NOTHING will change next season and a few years later… yeah change was needed. Why bother that’s the new standard.
Injuries, officiating, and scheduling contributed to the problem, but it wasn’t like they didn’t know these things were coming. The NFL set up the Steelers for failure. It wasn’t an accident. They didn’t want Tomlin and Russ to win second SBs together. The NFL is crooked. Having said that, the Steelers knew the score when the schedule came out.
There was an article recently written about Tomlin that I agree with. It said he surrounds himself with the Yes Men Coaches and no one that can become a head coach on another team. Tomlin needs to be stripped of his ability to hire assistant coaches if he stays in Pittsburgh .
I told y'all this at the beginning of the year. If we didn't get rid of Tomlin we'd be right exactly where we were last year and guess what? We had the same exact record we had when we had Pickett Rudolph and Mitch mediocre Mike's the problem I've been saying for years
IT WILL NEVER, EVER HAPPEN! We'll never see the winners circle with him. His precious Superbowl win is compliments of Bill Cowher and not himself. Evolve or die, in Tomlins case.... just retire! The league has passed him by just like Noll or Landry or Shula... your defensive schemes don't work anymore. Tomlin never goes after quality coordinators or free agents ever, just cheap useless band-aids. It's pathetic and embarrassing. We're a predictable laughing stock in the league. Whatever, I'm done giving a shit anymore.
Did we ever think of this with GP..... he wasnt 100% and was forced to be out there for the division? Cause with the way im seeing how he preformed i can actually think he wasnt healthy but was used as a decoy
Russ pressed against KC, and I get why he did it. Arthur Smith almost forced him to do it. But he should’ve been using his legs earlier in the season. He clearly still has burst in the open field, which people weren’t expecting. Where was that against the Browns, Eagles, and Ravens? Tomlin needs to hire Darrell Bevell or Brian Schottenheimer.
Tomlin won't fool me ever again. Hasn't since that Jacksonville playoff loss. Think about this, in the last 10 years Philly has been to 2 SBs and won one, while Steelers have maybe 3 playoff wins total. Only way the Rooneys will make a change is if it hurts their bottom line.
I've felt since 2016 the Steelers were already trending downward. when all three phases of the team is not functioning as a unit, you have to look at coaching!
As a steelers fan, I do t care about Tomlin highest winning percentage, what counts are the playoffs, almost a decade without competing in the playoffs.
Tomlin needs to hire a game strategist to help him coach during a game. He regularly gets outcoached during games. Other teams pick up fourth-and-one like clockwork and the Steelers don't. Those play calls haven't changed(although the OC has) since 2007 when it was Mewelde Moore up the middle for no yards and turnover on downs. For someone who has as much experience as he does, it's not acceptable. Or just trade him and fire Austin.
I would truly hope we Steelers fans would get away from comparing and contrasting Steelers head coaches. All of them have been good over the last 50 years. Also, get Cam Sutton out of there now!!! He is a drag on the defense due to being out of place constantly.
I have never believed that Tomlin should have been chosen. The Rooney Rule is about how the league said, put up or shut up. And yes, the NFL Is for intentions, a white-ownership club. And Tomlin was handed a Superbowl team. With Asst, coaches in place. And I said, that the only way Tomlin will prove his merit as a head coach. Is when it's all on his shoulders.
All do respect they should for Mike Tomlin but art Rooney needs to have a real heart to heart talk with the whole coaching staff and let them know that they have to get more creative and more flexible and discipline and much better communication between each other and play for each other and play together
The Steelers will not fire Tomlim. What's funny to me is how three weeks ago Steelers fans was calling for him to be COTY and now the want him fired. 😂😂😂
Well we are going to have him for the next three years at least. Rooney has no spine so nothing will change in that department. Love this team and I will still root for them every year, my expectations are low so maybe it doesn’t bother me as much.
It’s not all on tomlin we don’t really have that much talent on offense! Our OL is horrible and lackluster WR core. Our first round OL picks so far look like misses we’ll see how this goes but next year we need to LOAD UP this team and put all our chips in for the next 2-3 years. TJ and cam only have so much time playing at an elite level
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Read an article by Jarrett Bailey called THE TOMLIN PROBLEM. And as far as i am concerned, Tomlin should be told to step down after the 2025 draft is completed. A kinder act to a man who is overrated. He is just a coordinator at best. A great motivator? But his team hasn't had success in the playoffs resulting in no AFC CHAMPIONSHIP games in a long while.
Do not be fooled. Tomlin is a genius. Unless your team is going to be #1 seed, there's no point in worrying how the cards fall after that, because homefield advantage truly matters for the division championship. So, here's the genius of Mike Tomlin. The primary goal was to clinch the playoffs before the start of the last quarter of the season. Knowing that he faced great teams across a 3 game stretch in unfair 11 day period, Tomlin decided to experiment with those games. The last quarter of the season was going to turn out one of two ways for the Steelers no matter what. They would be facing teams that they already know that they can beat, Chargers, Broncos, and Ravens. They know they can beat these teams is because they did beat each of those teams this season. This is why he took a calculated risk to test his team against the toughest teams on their schedule, Eagles, Ravens, and Chiefs. Basically, he measured how successful certain schemes, sub packages, and players against these teams. Now, this does not mean they did not try to win those games, but if they lost they would walk into the playoffs knowing exactly what their strengths and weaknesses are that will give them best chance to win against any of the following playoff opponents. Texans, Charges, Broncos, and Ravens. As of right now, the Steelers have a higher probability of playing the Texans. With all this in mind, the Steelers are right where they want to be. If they dominate against the Bengals then that means they have utilized their last three losses effectively. Steelers fan must be patient and wait for the Playoffs to see how this will shake out. If they lose in the Wild Card, then heads should roll, but for now, everyone need to hold their horses and watch the magic unfold before their eyes.
@@tyl1186when you are done with whatever your smoking pass it to me, because we are not doing anything in the playoffs but lose the first game. This is Tomlin football 1 and done
@CharlesMasterTech Thanks for responding. By the way, I am very sober, and I do not indulge in an activity that intoxicates my pristine vessel. With that out of the way, you must learn to speak life over others. There's a known psychological phenomenon where people tend to perform better when they are expected to do so. Changing head coaches will set this team back a few years, and we are getting closer to becoming legitimate contenders. Don't get me wrong, I understand it's frustrating to see the Steelers lose three games in a row, but there's always a silver lining. Their first-round playoff opponents are teams that the Steelers can beat. At worst, they'll play the Texans; at best, they'll play the Chargers. Do you really believe the Steelers can not beat those two teams?
His Superbowl win was with Dick Labeau and Cowhers team . It's been a slow down descent ever since! Never gonna change! Steelers Nation deserves better.
And Cowher inherited Chuck nolls team so what? Why Cowher and Lebeau didn't win more super bowls? Since it's so easy
@@cuzheavy4079yes and no. He inherited two pro bowlers with Woodson and Dawson. Other than that Cowher built the team. Compare this with Tomlin inherited Big Ben, Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, James Farrior, Heath Miller, Santino Holmes, Willie Parker, Hines Ward. That's just the pro bowlers and not to mention that Tomlin inherent Cowher's coaching staff. It's not really no comparison to what Cowher inherent to what Tomlin inherent. Plus look at Cowher's coaching tree compared to Tomlin. Bruce Arians, Dick Lebeau, John Fox, Dom Capers....Tomlin? ....not one guy. They ain't the same
@@berinmind Exactly Facts‼️
Thank you my Brother...@berinmind
@@missblak00 so why they ain't win more super bowls?
We will never win another playoff game let alone another SB under Mike Tomlin. Book it.
I can understand he has never had a losing season but it means nothing whatsoever. If you can't make it to the playoffs and definitely if you can't make it to the super bowl, all those winning seasons mean nothing at all. Time for a new coach, a coach that can get us to the super bowl
Totally agree bro
Took the words right outta my mouth, bro
@fx572 I agree
@@leegoddard9868Exactly. Never having losing season has actually hurt the team more than helped it. Never good enough to be a SB contender, but just good enough to never have a high draft pick. This is Pittsburgh, where "winning seasons" mean Super Bowls and postseason success. You didn't make the playoffs? To Steeler nation you had a losing season. You get bounced in the 1st round? To Steeler nation you had a losing season. You get smoked in a playoff game in that you were favored to win? To Steeler nation you had a losing season. As Tomlin says, the standard is the standard, and in Pittsburgh the standard ISN'T going .500 or better only to shit the bed in the postseason.
@cole590 I agree 100%
Next year will be the same outcome.
Yep rinse repeat
@@CharlesMasterTechexactly
Well hold on now, we ain’t even close to complete. We’re too young. Our best db is literally 23! We’re gonna sign more WRs, dbs and another offensive linemen this time around and be more complete.
@@JesseGray-ce6fi yes I agree. Definitely we will rebuild and get back to our winning ways. The only worst part about that is the wait to be great 👍
@@JesseGray-ce6fi Sticking with the same coaching staff around Tomlin is going to have the same results. I’m tired of mediocrity under mediocre Tomlin and Rooney won’t fire him! He doesn’t have the balls to do it!
I'm getting tired of the same crap that happens every year. Us Steelers fans deserves better than this.
Do You?
@@waynejohanson1083yes
Why do u? Who are steelers fans besides fans?
@@waynejohanson1083 isn’t it obvious? We do deserve better. Apparently you like mediocrity under mediocre tomlin.
@@josejh-eb8st what kind of ridiculous question is that? Oh boy you probably like mediocrity under mediocre Tomlin!
Doesn't Matter how many times M.T has winning seasons.
It means nothing if you only win one superbowl
He needs to be Fired
This team has no chance of turning things around this season
Yes...
Or the next three
So many delusional takes. Who are you gonna put in his place? The NFL is overflowing with more capable coaches ya think?
@@rohnthomThere is so many great head coaches out there in the NFL! And apparently you wanna stick with mediocre Tomlin!
You watched the film. The highest paid defence looked like complete dog shit.
We had Flores in the building and let him walk. There are some serious flaws in this organization
I'm okay with getting beat. I'm even okay with getting crushed. I'm not okay with quitting. I stood up for Tomlin for a long time, but I lost so much respect after the Chiefs game.
Three top teams within 11 days. They were not going to beat the Chiefs.
@@brucewilson9332 - that’s not what he’s referring to… he’s specified that it’s about the quitting, not the losing…
@ They didn’t quit…they were exhausted…beat down from playing their 3rd tier team. They got beat by the Eagles. He said he was ok with getting beat and/or crushed. By the time they got to Chiefs they were exhausted from playing the first two top tier teams and all the traveling to those two away games. Tough schedule within 11 days. That’s all it is to it. Now…if they lose to the Bengals, I might see it differently.
Couple years? In my opinion it’s been the same story since 2011.
Like Terry Bradshaw said... he's a cheerleader. Doesn't have an ounce of x's and o's in his brain. The problem is who is out there.
Terry Bradshaw did call it a long time ago , the guy is a glorified cheerleader.
And it pisses me of they FORCED terry to apologize to him when he spoke FACTS
@@marcderogatis8513 Tbh not even a glorified cheerleader, he's a terrible ass one consider his team is turning against themselves now and he can't instill discipline in people like Pickens 😂😂😂😂
Both Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh are cheerleaders.
I@steelerscountry422
I don't think Terry Bradshaw should have said what he said, I think it was unprofessional to say that. But the standard is winning championships. Non-Losing seasons (18) is commendable, I'm not taking anything away from that. But I think Mike Tomlin has taken this team as far as he is going to. And the recent criticism over the previous two years is long overdue. He has done a poor job evaluating DB/CB's, and his Coordinators and position Coaches have been horrible. I wouldn't be surprise if they dropped these last two games, ending the year on a five game losing streak. His playoff record is atrocious! And any other coach in the NFL would have been fired years ago. It's time for a change.
Tomlin needs to go into being a politician... he'll fit right in with his mouth piece.
Never having a losing season matters to you. What matters to fans in the Burg is not going one and out and how about getting a SuperBowl win.
So sick and tired of this Never had a loosing season 😡 win some Playoff!!!!
Same record as last year with Rudolph n Pickett! If the Coordinator and roster gets better but seasons stay the same then the COACH IS TO BLAME!!!💯
I think y'all keep forgetting the offensive line starters went out for the season
Smith is no different than Canada
Same crap as it was with AB with Pickens and where's Queen and JPJ been. DEf. NOT LOCKED IN. selfish unfocused BS and Tomlin has always let us down when it counts!
It's like Tomlin does this on purpose as great as he is at it! MASTER OF MEDIOCRITY. Wants his long vacation knowing he gets away with it.
Summed up perfectly 👌🏾
But you don't give him credit when he wins ? Only the blame when he loses?
Always winning is mediocre huh? Tell me, who are you gonna bring in as your HC? You think the NFL is just floating in head coaches that can produce winning seasons with QB rooms like Pickett, Rudolf, and Trubisky?
@@rohnthomThere is many head coaches in the NFL and you think there is nobody to choose! You act like we have to stick with mediocre Mike!
As a hard-core Steeler fan I'm tired of being dominated by every good team in every division with the exception of the AFC NORTH. TOMLIN gets outcoached by all the top coaches in all other divisions period. EVERY SEASON
He is a micro manager. Players coach/ friend. We don’t need a cheerleader/ motivational leader, that is some college shit. We need A guy that says do your damn job that you are overpaid to do correctly or you will sit. We need an offensive minded coach as well.
I was with you until you said OVERPAID!
This is like Deja Vu the Seahawks 2015-2021. Tomlin is another Pete Carroll.
Don’t drink the kool aid. Tomlin is all smoke and mirrors. Hes wasted so much talent over the years. He needs to go!
Amen tell it like it is 😅
Preach bro. Im optimistic but he aint it. He ALWAYS feels threatened if someone is better coaching than him
What talent did he waste, the triple B's had an old aging defense, what talent have they had the last few years..they have 3 or 4 stars, everyone else are average or below average players
Where was all of this fire Tomlin talk for the first 13 games of the season? We have so many fair weather fans claiming that they love this football team.
You weren’t saying this 5 weeks ago stop it
I think sometimes we forget that this team is not like other teams like the browns, raiders etc.. where having a winning season or getting a playoff appearance is more than good enough. The standard should always be being actual contenders for the sb but under Tomlin the team always falls flat (in recent and previous years), the defense is never good enough when we play good/elite teams even though its Tomlins area, the offense in recent years has been awful, he always gets outcoached in big games and this will never change, we might be able to win a playoff game in the next years but winning a sb under him is out of the picture. People can blame it on players or coaches but year after year the standard remains the same and that is mediocrity
Way to write all that and still not have any point whatsoever. You've said nothing of value. Just basically a bunch of talking points from the fire tomlin crowd. However they're all stupid as hell and youre regurgitating they're talking points.
Mike Tomlin is the greatest bullshiter of all time. Right next to Russell Wilson.
I'm not certain of the master motivator bit. I understand what you're saying, to some extent, but on the other hand, he's lost the locker room more than once in the past few years at this point in the season. That doesn't happen if everybody is on the same page, and that's definitely not the case right now, nor was it a few years ago with plenty of locker room rumblings and frustration. Part of that is his telling to the press that there will be changes made, with nothing of significance resulting from them. Canada's firing last year, for example, took way too long.
“If I have to motivate you, I’ll fire you”
Chuck Noll
DB’s are playing bad coverage football.
They don’t even play coverage they just stand around
@@Sircashthy4 yeah they just stand around like a bunch of statues and they don’t know how to tackle! Thats mediocre Mike’s Coaching!
@SteelersTV Jack the most important fact you stated.....is that we are a GOOD football team. Which exposes the fact that we are not a GREAT football team and thats why we arent winning anything this year because in the afc alone there are three GREAT football teams ahead of us🤷♂️ I want tomlin gone because we have not had consistent wr or cb drafting be anything more than AVERAGE in quite sometime and the guys who do make that level are not consistent in game.
I think they should give Fields another chance he is more dienamic
Ya in running….
@bobband that's it...yraejohnson
Fields fits this team style of play and adds the running threat to it as well.
It's way overdue to tell Tomlin his system isn't working..
Time for Tomlin to get on his TUGBOAT and head on down the Allegheny River and don't look back..
1st stop is too pick up Wilson and tell him he's not worth no 30 million next year to sign with Pittsburgh..Now we no why Denver let him go..washed up QB..
The Rooney's should be tired of the same song and dance from Mike Tomlin. What are they, blind in one eye and can't see out of the other? Fire Mike Tomlin and get it over with!!!!
Needs to learn how to win without getting takeaways. Teams success is totally reliant on that fact. Any coach that takes care of the ball dominates us. HANDICAPPED
Tomlin is a horrible coach that makes stupid decisons. On top of that he dosent dicipline his players. The only thing he cares about is not having a loosing season
The problem with this team is that Tomlin needs and good defense coordinator... they can't get off the field...
We'll be revisiting this next year....
And it is hard to want to watch it happen, again & again - too painful, no fun.
No we won't watch
@@tyanajones8399you must have been living under a rock for the last 8 years 😂
Same s*** different year but hey the standards is standard
Imagine if they lose next week. That would be 4 straight loses going into the playoffs. That is not good. And that last game is against the Bengals. Not a easy game.
Tomlin needs to be fired!!
It’s the same old same old like we need to get over the hump and start really making a run at something. We can’t blame quarterbacks. We can’t blame offensive coordinators. We have to point the finger where the finger need to be pointed at.
Why
@RCcarkillerJD well Russell wilson threw atleast one interception these last few weeks. He hasn't been hitting any passes. You cant blame the QB? How stupid are you
@@josejh-eb8stHe’s a cheerleader, He can’t coach, He can’t teach his players how to tackle right, He’s bad at challenge flags, Clock Management, He has no coaching tree, etc.
@@TheGamingEnjoyerFan you have maybe 2 good arguments out of that list. Of course I think youre wrong about most of them
Jack, I agree with you 99% of the time, but please STOP saying MT is a " Master Motivator"!!!
They are NEVER ready, ALWAYS get off to a slow start EVERY game, and NEVER win on a short week!!!! ALL FACTS!! So please stop saying this, it is so freakin annoying!!!
P.S. For anyone thinking the team that started "The Rooney Rule" will EVER fire MT, think again, will never happen!! MT and his whole staff should go!!
Boring and predictable!!
He should have been fired after he got Tebow’d.
I'll never forget that lost the Steelers should have won that game
No losing seasons just gives us worse draft picks 😂
Exactly we lose out on good draft picks every season we need to start losing so we can get good draft picks
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Not gonna make it past the first playoff game it's gonna be the same ole same ole.Russell isn't the future QB , offensive line needs better players, Tomlin can't get them past playoffs anymore. Need another wr,
So agree !!
Im just gonna beg we dont get a o line or d line in the draft.
Most of our oline is just injured
I saw a documentary about Bill Parcels. He said something like I don't get paid to motivate you. If you can't motivate yourself you're outta there. Players hated Bill. Bradshaw hated knoll. That's what winning coaches are about. Results!!!
I'm not a fire Tomlin guy but this Steelers team is reminding me of last days of chuck noel.
A prime example of terrible coaching...starting Can Sutton over Beanie Bishop....
Where has that motivation got us???? I'm listening...
I want to know where that 10-3 football went.Sure,GP is our best deep threat but we have other good receivers but don’t get them the ball.I think the OC is no better than what we had last year.
Ask yourself why ? Tomlin likes keep subpar coordinators around so he doesn’t have competition for his job. That’s why we have Austin instead of Flores.
They were on a run against teams that didn't take care of the ball and the ball bounced their way. Now that luck ran out.
I think Tomlin’s coaching tenure has had its ups and downs. I appreciate his “don’t blink” mentality and his insistence in “the standard being the standard”. Every locker room, at some point, does need a change of voices, and every coach needs a change of scenery as well. Despite Andy Reid’s success in Philly, the change was necessary for both him and his former team, and they both have the Lombardi’s to prove it.
I’m thankful for all Tomlin has accomplished and all he represents, but I think the time is approaching for that change. I believe that he and the Steelers will both get that next Lombardi- just not together.
Tomlin needs a stacked roster and players that don’t need development.
Tomlin, is a great motivational speaker , and I think the intention is there. But the Rooney's relationship and attachment to him is getting in the way . Something needs to change now, and it starts with the head coach !
Mediocre is all he is. Took an already Superbowl roster and got a ring but as that teams players went so did Tomlins PLAYOFF SUCCESS. He didn't even have success with the Ben, Bell, and Brown combo man and he gas stuck us at a CEILING of regular season mediocrity.
he never deserved the HC job. he's a defensive coordinator that's IT
Stupid Comment...so who should they have hired a white guy???
No he didn't... his mouth piece got him the job. The rooneys fell in love with his vocabulary.
They have to hire professional assistant coaches, not Tomlin's friends. Arthur Smith is at least a slight upgrade over Matt Canada.
GOOD AINT GOOD ENOUGH!
Tomlin is not the coach everone thinks he is the same old BS year after year but no one wants to fire this man he gets out coached time after time makes no ajustments anytime time foe him to go before it is to late it almost to late now. Steeler fans should have much better.
Our secondary sucks!!!
Keep Tomlin IF he hires an imaginative OC and DC and LET THEM RUN THEIR AREAS including game management. Confine Tomlin to strategic decisions and personnel development.
Confine the clown to retirement
As a leader of any business, you need smart people around you, even if their thoughts may differ from yours. If your thinking is control driven, you will fail. Obviously I am not in the building, but I feel that there are too many "yes men" involved...and we can all see the results of that thought process.
You don't get it either Homie. YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT PICKENS AND QUEEN AND SOME OTHERS ARE LOCKED IN. NAH NAH BRAH
Sometimes you gotta gameplan steady prolific offense with DIFFERENT plays and formations which Tomlin never does.
Man, you can't talk right now about firing our coach! We about to go into the playoffs. We had 3 bad losses but we have some time to rest and get it together. My confidence is not as high as it was but we still in it to win it if we can turn things around right now and stay healthy. Tomlin took a lot of subpar teams to playoff berths, so we werent expecting too much in playoff teams. You cant ignore that fact later on and say he lost a lot in playoffs. Many of those teams were injury riddled too. Man, it is what it is.
We' ll have plenty of time to talk about TOMLIN , it will be 1 game and OUT ! JUST as all the last 8 or so years past ! SUBMEDIOCRE "T" ! 🤡
Mediocre Mike will blow the game against the bengals and it will be the most embarrassing 4 game late losing collapse. We will get destroyed in the playoffs.
@@y2kelly66 Ok , we'll FIRE him after the game ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Same gameplan against every team and that ain't getting it done.
Yeah run the ball twice then on third and two, and instead of throwing a 2 yard pass he has to throw 40 yards to Pickens.
Mike Tomlin continues to get out coached he needs to go
the steelers were pick to finish last in AFC NORTH! not first! Coach Tomlin spoils a lot of fake Steelers Fans!😂😂 when guys fumble the ball it may be a player issue not a coaching issue. Fake Steelers fans dont understand this simple fact is the Steelers fire Coach Tomlin every NFL team will seek his services! Funny how this season started, with everyone screaming, the Steelers will not win 6 games! SMH
I agree with you💯
Yeah we’re so spoiled, we’re the best of the worst teams in the league every year. Tomlin is so good that no coaches from his coaching tree ever get hired anywhere else 😂🤡
If the browns weren’t a complete mess the Steelers very well could have been in last . The Bengals are going to beat the Steelers . Tell me do you think teams are more afraid of burrow and the bengals or Tomlins team come playoff time .
@@alexpiacentini9950 no one fears the bengals defense! 🤣🤣🤣
@@Keefer24 you may want to become carolina panther fan. Bill Belichick dont have much of coach Tree either. N he is the best to ever do it.
One thing that has always stood out to me about Tomlin is how he stepped out onto the field at one time to interfere with the opposing teams player that was a total tell on his character!
I lost respect for him at that moment, which I have never gained back.
However, if he can turn this thing around and get them deep into the playoffs, he could earn my respect back , and probably a lot of other people’s as well!
Regardless of circumstances, rosters, expectations, draft picks, and any other variable you want to throw in, there is one reality. Excluding Marvin Lewis, Tomlin has the longest consecutive season streak for one team in nfl history to not win a playoff game and still coach for the same team. His streak is 7 years on one team without a playoff win. If he fails this year to win a playoff game, he will be in sole possession of most consecutive seasons coached without a playoff win for one team at 8. Also, I am well aware that Tomlin is far from the only aspect of this team, because they still need to rebuild at qb, runningback, cornerback, etc. But when overly optimistic fans tell me that the team should just keep him because he hasn't truly had a bad season, I have to chuckle a bit. I'll examine the records for Pittsburgh since the 2012 season to further explain what I mean.
2012-13: 8-8 missed the playoffs
2013-14: 8-8 missed the playoffs
2014-15: 11-5 lost in 1st round
2015-16: 10-6 lost in 2nd round (won 1 playoff game)
2016-17: 11-5 lost in 3rd round (won 2 playoff games)
2017-18: 13-3 lost in 2nd round (had 1st round bye so no playoff win)
2018-19: 9-6-1 missed playoffs
2019-20: 8-8 missed playoffs
2020-21: 12-4 lost in 1st round
2021-22: 9-7-1 lost in 1st round
2022-23: 9-8 missed playoffs
2023-24: 10-7 lost in 1st round
2024-25: 10-6 season pending
●Of these seasons, three of them were not actually winning seasons at 8-8.
●Six of these seasons were at or barely over .500.
●Of these seasons, only one season has Tomlin had a 1st round bye.
●Only 2 of these seasons has Tomlin hit 12 wins which by most standards is the mark of an elite team.
●They have not won a division title in 4 seasons.
●Lastly, they have been in one AFC championship in the last 13 seasons. The last one is less recent than the Jacksonville Jaguars.
What's the conclusion?
While Tomlin's teams have generally been in contention for the playoffs, only maybe two to three of those teams were true Superbowl contenders in the last 13 to 14 years. That's not to say Tomlin has done a bad job but rather he has hit his ceiling as a head coach and after 18 seasons he only offers so much to this team that he hasn't already accomplished.
It's time for a change!! Tomlin needs to go !!🤬🤬🤬🤬
Tomlin’s tenure is not the Steelers that I am used to actually I can’t remember what the Steelers were like it’s been so long.
When the man has 18 winning seasons, you don’t argue with that aspect of the formula 🤷🏿♂️
So he has the best of the worst teams in the NFL every year, cool bro.
@ it’s not about the best of the worst. It’s all about putting the puzzle pieces together, progress can take fickle turns at points but it has yet to meld and or mesh together
How locked in can we be if the defense is dropping ints that hit them right in the face? If the secondary is consistently blowing assignments? If we as fans can see that bishop is better than Sutton, and Warren is better than Harris, but Coach refuses to make the obvious changes? I appreciate the portion fan base that’s giving him SO much grace, but enough is enough. He needs to be held accountable sooner rather than later
A lot of Sad Sack teams go from coach to coach to coach can't get it done. The Steelers stay with one coach and can't get it done and a coattail SB does not count
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The issues - 1. A habit of holding on to really bad back-up QBs for way too long. 2. Failure to slowly renew O-line, instead allowing the whole thing to age out. 3. Poor coaching and scheming in secondary. Even when we have had talented CBs, the secondary sucked and has relied on star safeties to keep us in the fight. 4. A lot of poor choices for coaches. 5. Fear of change. Lebeau's D became predicatable, but at least he was the architect. Now we keep trying to run that same idea with different coaches. It is not those coaches idea, it is still predictable, and it is not well executed. 6. Let me mention the secondary woes again - I miss Troy. 7. A lack of fire and urgency from Mike in the late minutes. No inspiration, push, fire to come back in the end. 8. The assumption of Tomlin's greatness because he has managed to be at 500 or better - but look at the talent he has had. He didn't go to Superbowl when he had a good D, the best QB, RB, WR and TE combo in the game. Ben had back to back 6 td games ffs. 9. Thinking Ben was done, Duck wasn't worth keeping, not giving Pickens a real chance all because rather than having an O-line, we had a NO-line. Watch the games closely. There are those giving it their all plus some, and others just LAZY. When that goes on and on, it all goes back to the HC. Tomlin isn't terrible, but he isn't great. We need great.
The caliber of our coach is abnormal, Mike is that top 10% coach that you rarely get. The Steelers have had three consecutive coaches that are very good. Though I will say coach Cower for years worked hard with inept quarterbacks. We can go back to our scrambling quarterback in Kordell etc. and see the issues. There are only a couple coaches in the league I would consider better than Mike. However, I must tell you a quarterback is the coach stand in on the field. This person needs to be given the leadership role with full confidence, and all the other players should know it. If any other player has issues and attempts to be alpha over the quarterback then it is up to Tomlin to watch and nurture the quarterback into the top Alpha position, there is what we call chemistry and the best chemistry gives the best results. We consistently see the respect that the quarterback receives in Kansas City, this man sounds like Kermit the frog, and does a lot of crazy shit most of us would scratch our heads over, but he has repeated successes. We watched this with Rothlisberger, and had some success as well. if there was no time measurement and you could go back in time then we would have to not only fire Mike we would also have to fire Bill. Yes the caliber of our coach is equal if not better than Bill Keller. I will submit that if Mike coaches for years to come he will surpass Bill easily. This is when I start asking what is this really about? I think fans need to stop. If there is anything that Bill and Mike do is make occasional clubs in coaching, or they allow their coaches they are over club. I mean there are plenty of instances for instance taking chance on fourth down when it is not necessary early in a game. Both have done this. It is rare but it has been done. I also believe it has cost us the game and a few instances. Other than that the area where we need to reinforce his offensive line around the pocket and the quarterback and his wide receivers. We have a decent defense we have the Iron Curtain when it is healthy it is perfect. If anything we need to reinforce our secondary so they can play better than they do and what I mean by secondary is our B team. I am bothered that we only have one wide receiver that is a consistent threat, this is inappropriate and I blame it on the owner not the coaches. We can do much better and we also need to have a more established set of options to draw from in plays. We are becoming too predictable over the past five games. I know when we're going to run and I know when we're going to pass and that is a big problem against teams like Kansas City, the Eagles, the ravens, the commanders, the Lions, the Vikings etc. I also fully believe that when we see and record a team that does several plays and they do it well we should be looking to mimic those plays because of their consistent successes against various teams. I've seen certain moving plays with the Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs that I admire that our team should be mimicking. Yes we should be surfing these moving interference plays that open up the spot pass or whatever you wanna call it into a deep run because we have everybody in place to cause interference and block. They are superb at this in Kansas City.
One mahomes is better than 10 good defensive players. Only takes one of them to screw up the most expensive defense in NFL. Tomlin philosophy is outdated. Looks like ownership is more interested in the brand then winning. NOTHING will change next season and a few years later… yeah change was needed. Why bother that’s the new standard.
Injuries, officiating, and scheduling contributed to the problem, but it wasn’t like they didn’t know these things were coming. The NFL set up the Steelers for failure. It wasn’t an accident. They didn’t want Tomlin and Russ to win second SBs together. The NFL is crooked.
Having said that, the Steelers knew the score when the schedule came out.
Hes a joke and after cowhers players and coaches left he hasn’t done anything
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I think we should start juetin feilds if you agree
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Not winning a SB with the killer Bs is unforgivable to me
Bruh we say the same thing every year
Look how long are people going to feed us this BS about Tomlin If i came up short at work week after week not year after year I would be gone
There was an article recently written about Tomlin that I agree with. It said he surrounds himself with the Yes Men Coaches and no one that can become a head coach on another team. Tomlin needs to be stripped of his ability to hire assistant coaches if he stays in Pittsburgh .
I told y'all this at the beginning of the year. If we didn't get rid of Tomlin we'd be right exactly where we were last year and guess what? We had the same exact record we had when we had Pickett Rudolph and Mitch mediocre Mike's the problem I've been saying for years
IT WILL NEVER, EVER HAPPEN! We'll never see the winners circle with him. His precious Superbowl win is compliments of Bill Cowher and not himself. Evolve or die, in Tomlins case.... just retire! The league has passed him by just like Noll or Landry or Shula... your defensive schemes don't work anymore. Tomlin never goes after quality coordinators or free agents ever, just cheap useless band-aids. It's pathetic and embarrassing. We're a predictable laughing stock in the league. Whatever, I'm done giving a shit anymore.
Did we ever think of this with GP..... he wasnt 100% and was forced to be out there for the division? Cause with the way im seeing how he preformed i can actually think he wasnt healthy but was used as a decoy
Russ pressed against KC, and I get why he did it. Arthur Smith almost forced him to do it. But he should’ve been using his legs earlier in the season. He clearly still has burst in the open field, which people weren’t expecting. Where was that against the Browns, Eagles, and Ravens?
Tomlin needs to hire Darrell Bevell or Brian Schottenheimer.
Tomlin won't fool me ever again. Hasn't since that Jacksonville playoff loss. Think about this, in the last 10 years Philly has been to 2 SBs and won one, while Steelers have maybe 3 playoff wins total. Only way the Rooneys will make a change is if it hurts their bottom line.
I've felt since 2016 the Steelers were already trending downward. when all three phases of the team is not functioning as a unit, you have to look at coaching!
As a steelers fan, I do t care about Tomlin highest winning percentage, what counts are the playoffs, almost a decade without competing in the playoffs.
Tomlin needs to hire a game strategist to help him coach during a game. He regularly gets outcoached during games. Other teams pick up fourth-and-one like clockwork and the Steelers don't. Those play calls haven't changed(although the OC has) since 2007 when it was Mewelde Moore up the middle for no yards and turnover on downs. For someone who has as much experience as he does, it's not acceptable. Or just trade him and fire Austin.
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Tomlin benefitted from having a HOF QB for the majority of his tenure.
I would truly hope we Steelers fans would get away from comparing and contrasting Steelers head coaches. All of them have been good over the last 50 years. Also, get Cam Sutton out of there now!!! He is a drag on the defense due to being out of place constantly.
I have never believed that Tomlin should have been chosen. The Rooney Rule is about how the league said, put up or shut up.
And yes, the NFL Is for intentions, a white-ownership club.
And Tomlin was handed a Superbowl team. With Asst, coaches in place.
And I said, that the only way Tomlin will prove his merit as a head coach. Is when it's all on his shoulders.
All do respect they should for Mike Tomlin but art Rooney needs to have a real heart to heart talk with the whole coaching staff and let them know that they have to get more creative and more flexible and discipline and much better communication between each other and play for each other and play together
They should keep Justin Fields Russell is .36 Justin 26 they will be real stupid to keep Russell
The Steelers will not fire Tomlim. What's funny to me is how three weeks ago Steelers fans was calling for him to be COTY and now the want him fired. 😂😂😂
Well we are going to have him for the next three years at least. Rooney has no spine so nothing will change in that department. Love this team and I will still root for them every year, my expectations are low so maybe it doesn’t bother me as much.
Tomlin had one of the best QBs in history, and a solid defense all those years!!! 1 !! One Super Bowl 😡 Not good enough!!!
I don't want him to be fired, but the coaches he hired are college level coaches
He needs to go. It's time to part ways. Trade him.
And guess who the coordinators jobs fall on? You said it the person who hires them. You counter argued yourself. It ALL falls on HIM
@@steelerscountry422the Gm and the president are responsible for hiring the staff also
He needs to go now, it’s about time we start change instead of sticking with the same results with mediocre Mike!
The locker room and defense are trash now , guess we won't blame that on Tomlin either! PATHETIC
The Steelers had one bad defensive game and now they suck?
@@kanzazboii They got belted 3 games in a row man.
@@kanzazboiiOh boy, it’s still not mediocre Mike’s fault when they got destroyed the past 3 games!
It’s not all on tomlin we don’t really have that much talent on offense! Our OL is horrible and lackluster WR core. Our first round OL picks so far look like misses we’ll see how this goes but next year we need to LOAD UP this team and put all our chips in for the next 2-3 years. TJ and cam only have so much time playing at an elite level
So, and!!!!
people will scream fire tomlin just because they didn't like what they had for lunch this food sucks fire tomlin!