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  • Опубліковано 13 сер 2024
  • "On the 8th of October, 1952, hundreds of commuters crowded onto a local, London-bound train at Harrow and Wealdstone station..."
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    CHAPTERS:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:41 - Background
    03:15 - The Harrow and Wealdstone Rail Crash
    07:57 - The Aftermath
    MUSIC:
    ► "Glass Pond" by Public Memory
    SOURCES:
    ► "British Railway Disasters" by Robin Jones, published by Mortons Media Group, December 2019. Link: books.google.c....
    ► "Accident at Harrow and Wealdstone on 8th October 1952" curated by Railways Archive. Link: www.railwaysar....
    ► "Harrow and Wealdstone rail crash: Boy rescuer remembers devastation" by Debabani Majumdar, published by BBC News, October 2012. Link: www.bbc.co.uk/....
    ► "Report on the Double Collision which occurred on 8th October 1952 at Harrow and Wealdstone Station..." by the Ministry of Transport, published by Her Majesty's Stationery Office, 1953. Available via: www.jonroma.ne....
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 831

  • @vustvaleo8068
    @vustvaleo8068 Рік тому +2322

    that boy scout who helped but was still worried he is absent from school thus needed someone to write a letter for his absence is wholesome.

    • @katwil89
      @katwil89 Рік тому +62

      I know. I loved his smile in his photo. What a sweet boy!

    • @gidi3250
      @gidi3250 Рік тому +99

      Well considering the time period this happend in he would have received a lashing by his teacher/principal for not going to school, who then most likely would have contacted his parents to inform them about their son not going to school who would most likely given the 50's also administer a similar punishment.

    • @billp4
      @billp4 Рік тому +32

      @@gidi3250 damn right! Little Hooligan.

    • @C-Here
      @C-Here Рік тому +5

      @@billp4 😅😅😅

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 Рік тому +17

      That'll happen when getting the cane is a thing lol

  • @classicmicroscopy9398
    @classicmicroscopy9398 Рік тому +1223

    Very impressive that a kid could handle the sheer horror of the scene let alone handle it well enough to locate survivors and inform his school of his absence.

    • @ShadowsandCityLights
      @ShadowsandCityLights Рік тому +57

      The quality of humans have really gone down hill.

    • @miz_logo_lee
      @miz_logo_lee Рік тому +49

      @@ShadowsandCityLights ok boomer.

    • @thebigdog2295
      @thebigdog2295 Рік тому +75

      @@miz_logo_lee you know that you just proved his point with your comment. I'm sure you're the type that would help out if you witnessed something like this. By taking video and posting it on social media platforms.

    • @stormbornapostle5188
      @stormbornapostle5188 Рік тому +35

      People were made of sterner stuff back then.

    • @blackosprey2219
      @blackosprey2219 Рік тому +20

      Some folks are just built different.

  • @Moontess
    @Moontess Рік тому +1094

    That boy scout Gilbert really went above and beyond - and I loved how he still had the presence of mind to ask a nurse for a note to explain why he was late.

    • @marvindebot3264
      @marvindebot3264 Рік тому +16

      sadly I wouldn't expect that from the current youth as a whole but for a British lad in that day and age it's admirable but not unexpected.

    • @skunkrat01
      @skunkrat01 Рік тому +19

      You could say he was.... prepared 😎

    • @jamesrussell2936
      @jamesrussell2936 Рік тому +6

      Of course he did. Teachers back then didn't mess around.

    • @JadedShrew777
      @JadedShrew777 Рік тому +22

      What a brave boy. I wonder if he had any PTSD after that. I can imagine that it took him a while to get over it, even if he contributed positively to the outcome.

    • @crow-jane
      @crow-jane Рік тому

      @@marvindebot3264 Do you do anything to inspire/teach the young folks you know to be ready helpers, or do you just bitch about them on the internet?

  • @markmckinney6168
    @markmckinney6168 Рік тому +710

    Nurse Sweetwine served in the Air Force during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, finally retiring as a USAF major. She passed at 87 in 2009. An honest-to-God hero who deserves to be better known.

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Рік тому +11

      Agree!

    • @goawayleavemealone2880
      @goawayleavemealone2880 Рік тому +25

      Thank you for this update, she was clearly a remarkable woman and now some more people know of her heroism... with a chance for yet more to learn about her.

    • @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing
      @iwaswrongabouteveryhthing Рік тому +7

      What a woman

    • @ItsJustLisa
      @ItsJustLisa Рік тому +8

      She definitely deserves to be better known.

    • @TheAPTGamer
      @TheAPTGamer Рік тому +4

      A hero doesn't aid soldiers in imperialist wars

  • @Hannah_Em
    @Hannah_Em Рік тому +480

    The story of Lt Abbie Sweetwine, the "Angel of Platform 6" is kind of amazing, I'd never heard of her before watching this video. A black female nurse being a commissioned officer in the US armed forces (or any predominantly white armed forces of the time, for that matter) stood out to me as nothing short of remarkable in the era of Jim Crow and segregation, before the US civil rights movement had picked up much momentum. As if her actions during the Harrow and Wealdstone crash weren't proof enough, simply getting to that point to be in the right place at the right time would be an incredible testament to her strength and ability! She was the only nurse of the
    Apparently the actions of Lt Sweetwine that day, along with the actions of the rest of the USAF team (in total, 7 doctors in addition to Nurse Sweetwine) are credited with inspiring the development and use of paramedics in the UK, something which I can personally attest has almost certainly saved my life more than once. The ideas of triage and marking patients with information (eg "have they been seen", "have they received morphine") weren't entirely novel at the time, but this crash was reportedly the first time that they'd been used in full-force in a civilian setting, before they were brought to wider public attention in the Korean war by the use and publicisation of things like the US' MASH units.

    • @davidsigalow7349
      @davidsigalow7349 Рік тому +40

      The U.S. military had been desegregated by President Truman in (if memory serves) 1947, and permitted many black Americans opportunities for advancement and recognition for their skills that were not always available in the private sector.

    • @ktkat1949
      @ktkat1949 Рік тому +16

      I believe you will find that all nurses were made commissioned officers as of 1947.

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 Рік тому +15

      Paramedics are a surprisingly modern concept. The UK didn't have them until the early 1980s or so.

    • @ajo7009
      @ajo7009 Рік тому +28

      I want there to be a movie made about her.

    • @BennyLlama39
      @BennyLlama39 Рік тому +21

      I can't help wondering how many more fatalities there would be without Sweetwine's improvised-yet-effective indexing system. 🙂

  • @spencerhardy8667
    @spencerhardy8667 Рік тому +185

    One other after effect of that crash was the UK ambulance services adopting the battlefield triage system rather than the previous "scoop and run" system, having noted how many casualties had been saved by immediate stabilisation by Sweetwine's team.

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 Рік тому +15

      Paramedics are a modern thing and didn't really exist until the early 1980s. Before that your ambulance was just a van usually with a local GP riding shotgun.
      The ambulance drivers were just drivers and the GP wouldn't have had the right training. Things are better now.

    • @ItsJustLisa
      @ItsJustLisa Рік тому +8

      @@halfbakedproductions7887, even here in the US, paramedics weren’t really a thing until the mid to late 70s. One of our major TV networks had a show that ran for about 6 or 7 years starting in 1970 or ‘71 about the fledgling paramedic program pioneered in Los Angeles County with the fire department. Select firefighters received emergency medical training, including starting IVs and drug administration, and use of emergency equipment. Interest was so high that fire departments along with hospitals began doing the same around the country and paramedics as well as EMTs (emergency medical technicians) became specialties of their own.
      That particular TV show, like CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, sparked post secondary (university level) degree programs that really hadn’t existed as unique specialties before then. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lt. Sweetwine’s expertise wasn’t tapped for those early paramedic training programs.

    • @AK-jt7kh
      @AK-jt7kh Рік тому

      This is all really fascinating

    • @paulazemeckis7835
      @paulazemeckis7835 Рік тому +2

      I believe the paramedic show you referred to was called "Emergency". I remember it in 1974 when I was 14 and crushing on the dark haired parametic.

  • @MusicoftheDamned
    @MusicoftheDamned Рік тому +389

    For being another disaster I had never heard of before, the intro to this one managed to be extra ominous in light of your two previous videos on the Great Smog and on that London metro accident where most people in the comments seemed to think the unfortunate operator had a type of seizure. Given how many trains were involved in this crash and their rates of speed, the most surprising thing to me is that "only" 112 people died given the amount of people involved.

    • @marvindebot3264
      @marvindebot3264 Рік тому +17

      I've read some reasonably extensive tracts on the subject and it was dumb luck it wasn't 3 times the dead.

    • @andyjay729
      @andyjay729 Рік тому +20

      Speaking of mysterious rail disasters (that is, the 1975 Tube crash, not this one), FH should perhaps do a video on the Hinton train collision in Canada. The ultimate cause of that is still uncertain, but one likely explanation is sleep deprivation coupled with diabetes on the part of the engineer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinton_train_collision

    • @SilverIchimaru
      @SilverIchimaru Рік тому +3

      @@andyjay729 that one was horrible and unfortunately not the only mysterious one. I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened in that cab though. I agree though I'd love to see FH's take on Hinton.

    • @Lyngypsy2112
      @Lyngypsy2112 Рік тому +3

      3 trains, around 8.17am...7 mins late..Tring-Euston train stationary + Perth Express ploughed into the back of the train in the station travelling at around 55mph...Pacific Liverpool Express was hurtling at about 60ish mph in the opposite direction + ploughed into the Tring-Euston train from the other end...Crash caused by lack of human attention, fog/misty sunshine + signal failure...It's a rough answer, I know but unless I sit + read the whole book in 30mins, I had to gather what I could...The book I bought is called, The Harrow Railway Disaster 1952 by L.F.E. Coombs...Hope this helps...

  • @levelheaded0038
    @levelheaded0038 Рік тому +251

    I saw someone else mention this in the comments, but I wanted to add my piece. I like that you treat these stories as what they were: disasters. There are people who lost their lives and loved ones. You tell the stories in a factual, non-sensational way, and that’s what sets your channel apart from similar ones for me. Thank you for sharing

    • @aldranzam3456
      @aldranzam3456 Рік тому +2

      YES! And it also makes it all the more interesting, because the linear narrative and clear technical explanations makes us understand why and how it happened, and how we can help to stop such disasters.

  • @gwenstephan67
    @gwenstephan67 Рік тому +88

    I have to hope, that if ever I were in a disaster I would be able to keep as cool ahead as these folks. Marking the patients with lipstick was absolutely genius

    • @crow-jane
      @crow-jane Рік тому +15

      This was not quite eight years out from the end of WW2. I think much of the conditioning the British underwent as a mobilized population came in handy in situations like this.

    • @davidcox3076
      @davidcox3076 Рік тому +10

      @@crow-jane I wondered about that as well. The passengers staying calm, the emergency services being right on scene and the civilian volunteers point to a very organized response with surprising speed. The wartime experience of many of those Londoners no doubt saved lives that day.

    • @willmander5179
      @willmander5179 Рік тому +1

      British people were different back then, if this happened now not only would there be sheer panic but you’d also find any passers by would rather film it and share on socials than try and help

  • @carynwaters9153
    @carynwaters9153 Рік тому +305

    Thank you for telling these smaller stories from around the world no matter the year AND you do it without sensationalizing it. You have a wonderful National Geographic voice and your videos are captivating and interesting without being dramatic. Also I appreciate that these videos aren’t 45 min-hour long, they’re short, very informative and includes MANY different mediums of details.
    Overall you educate and give all details so there’s nothing left to Google and essentially keep A positive memory of the souls that passed, the survivors and the helpers.
    Thank you for all that you do, how you do it! Please don’t stop anytime soon! You’re appreciated ❤️

    • @ChefCT63
      @ChefCT63 Рік тому +15

      I agree 1000% with your comment. We are informed without the sensationalism that gets unnecessary attention. We're educated about historic tragedies that unfortunate as they are improve lives going forward.

    • @ElGato1947
      @ElGato1947 Рік тому +7

      Very well said, Caryn.

    • @Ryno2094
      @Ryno2094 Рік тому +13

      What a beautiful and well articulated comment, I wish there were more like you around.

    • @daffers2345
      @daffers2345 Рік тому +6

      I agree, there is no channel quite like this one. It's my favorite of the disaster vids.

    • @carynwaters9153
      @carynwaters9153 Рік тому +1

      @@daffers2345 there are some others that are great too but I prefer this one the best. Dark History, plainly difficult, brick immortar, and I feel like I’m missing one but I can’t remember lol. But this page is wonderful!

  • @cooperised
    @cooperised Рік тому +74

    I discovered only a few weeks ago that my grandfather was a passenger on the local train that day. He died in the late 1990s without ever (to my knowledge) having talked about the crash.

    • @Puckoon2002
      @Puckoon2002 Рік тому +1

      A woman, how was to be the mother of a friend of mine, missed the accident by 15 minutes, as she traveled to work on the Electric service which passed through Harrow and Wealdstone station. She worked for British Railways, her boss was in the Carriage and Wagon department, she ended up that day typing up the reports for the department.

    • @user-be5xr9zc6p
      @user-be5xr9zc6p Рік тому

      I lived in Wealdstone from 1978-2018 & was walking over the bridge there -read the plaque there on the station’s side & told my colleague.. she said .. i remember that.. ( i had caught a train to Harlesden from that station in 1986 .. so unaware of the tragedy there so many yrs ago )

  • @beccakate8592
    @beccakate8592 Рік тому +34

    My wonderful Nan survived this, after also surviving the war but losing her whole family. She used to tell me about it when I was much younger, how she could hear the wood splintering overhead and how the lady next to her passed away on her lap. Makes me miss her

  • @twistedpear18
    @twistedpear18 Рік тому +148

    Stories like these are I think my favourite of yours to listen to. The incident was horrific, but the quick and extremely canny response by those on the scene is inspiring.

    • @crow-jane
      @crow-jane Рік тому +7

      I have a feeling that many of the skills the British learned as a mobilized population during the war probably helped enormously in this situation.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 Рік тому

      @@crow-jane is that anecdotal evidence?🤣

    • @crow-jane
      @crow-jane Рік тому +4

      @@scrappydoo7887 I don’t follow. The British were trained en masse to respond quickly and calmly to major emergencies by merit of some six years of war. This being less than a decade later, we can assume that at least some of the population remembered that training. This was an observation of historical proximity. Try not to overthink it.

    • @scrappydoo7887
      @scrappydoo7887 Рік тому

      @@crow-jane lol forget it

    • @allisonkrueger8330
      @allisonkrueger8330 Рік тому

      @@scrappydoo7887 it’s possible, I haven’t played a clarinet in 4 years and I still remember how to play

  • @susanbrown138
    @susanbrown138 Рік тому +45

    Followed a link on Wikipedia about this crash to a 2012 BBC article. It mentioned that Gilbert Powell, the boy scout, got into trouble with his parents after returning home all dirty. After getting cleaned up and changed, he went to school where he was given detention for not showing up in the morning. His parents didn't find out about his heroism at the crash site until later.

    • @r.j.penfold
      @r.j.penfold Рік тому +14

      Damn. If Gilbert is still around I hope he's doing well

    • @Krzyszczynski
      @Krzyszczynski 10 місяців тому +2

      Best sort of hero - the one who doesn't brag about what s/he's done, and just quietly gets on with things afterwards.

  • @jessicad83
    @jessicad83 Рік тому +70

    What a perfect example of what can be achieved when a community comes together to help one another 🙌

  • @FinnishLapphund
    @FinnishLapphund Рік тому +53

    I like the way you clearly showed how it happened, and not just the more dramatic photos of the aftermath. I also really like that you've included small details which to me made it feel more personal. Like the genious resourcefulness of that American "angel", and that you didn't just mention the scout that helped, without also that it made him late for school.

  • @llouie4999
    @llouie4999 Рік тому +49

    Your inclusion of the concrete things like Lt Abby's ingenuity, the young scout's determination, and scores of people that come to help then and later on figuring out how to prevent future incidents brings much hope and a sense that we together can do much good - thank you

    • @pauljohnson8872
      @pauljohnson8872 7 місяців тому

      People are generally good and want to help, it's when we become part of a larger group our individual humanity fails us and we become more mob like and less willing to help.

  • @RigletDad
    @RigletDad Рік тому +30

    Imagine the orderly and calm reaction to an accident that comes from a war hardened public.

  • @savegame3308
    @savegame3308 Рік тому +54

    Princess Anne was a very interesting locomotive. She used to be a turbomotive and used a turbine with moderate sucess before she was rebuilt just before the crash.
    But that's not all. After her untimely end the replacement locomotive for her was none other than Duke of Gloucester who's still around and runs often.

    • @sangheiliwarrior86
      @sangheiliwarrior86 Рік тому +5

      This accident certainly left its mark on British locomotive history.

    • @bryemycaz
      @bryemycaz Рік тому +9

      The Duke was nearly lost as it was not selected for offical preservation. It was sent to Cashmores yard and they had started to break it up. When they saw it had been sent to the wrong scrapyard. It should have gone to Woodhams in Barry. So work was stopped and it was sent to Barry, where it was eventually saved.

    • @martinforester3471
      @martinforester3471 Місяць тому

      ​@@bryemycazThe "Duke" has an amazing history, especially considering that she was never meant to be!

  • @briantaylor9285
    @briantaylor9285 Рік тому +58

    What a catastrophe. RIP to the victims.
    That nurse and Boy Scout were real ones, though. Bless them.

  • @opwave79
    @opwave79 Рік тому +17

    The photos look devastating. But I’m thankful for all the people who responded to render aid. That part of the story was wonderful.

  • @elliottprice6084
    @elliottprice6084 Рік тому +48

    I have heard of this disaster, but there was a lot I didn't know about it in this short, but very detailed video. And special mention to the young boy who spent four hours helping emergency service workers. I never knew of his courageous acts until now. I really hope he was commended for his actions

    • @elliottprice6084
      @elliottprice6084 Рік тому +2

      @@a1c3c3u such a shame he was never recognised. Thank you for your reply 😉

  • @martin-uz1py
    @martin-uz1py Рік тому +12

    My Dad grew up in Wealdstone and was one of the bystanders out side the station when this happened it always effected him deeply when ever he spoke about it.

  • @WeaselKing1000
    @WeaselKing1000 Рік тому +28

    One of my father's earliest memories is the enormous 'BANG' of this collision. He was a toddler at the time and the family lived quite near the station. My grandmother was in fact supposed to be aboard the local train on her way to work, but was pregnant with my uncle at the time, and so didn't go. Every person she shared the office with was killed.

    • @susi-emily
      @susi-emily Рік тому +2

      I'm going to be asking my dad if he heard the crash. He would've been six in 1952, and lived on Bouverie Road, near West Harrow station.

  • @MusicLeeSarah
    @MusicLeeSarah Рік тому +77

    I live in the US in Missouri and for years I lived just down the street from sulfur springs it was the site of the deadliest train crash in Missouri. It happened I want to say in the thirties I know that the surrounding communities didn't have electricity so I think that time frame is about right. One train had stopped at a bridge over the Mississippi to take on some water for the steam engine and the other train failed to acknowledge the signals that he was stopped on the bridge and they collided. the other train was going full speed. I've read newspaper articles from the local history museum about it and it sounds like it was heartbreak and Carnage and chaos and just horrible.
    But it did play a big part in them changing what signals and how they use them to alert other trains about stopped trains on the same tracks.
    If I may make a request, could you do a video about that incident?

    • @bobblebardsley
      @bobblebardsley Рік тому +14

      I don't know anything about this incident but it sounds like it would make for a very interesting video, I'd like to watch that one.

    • @edwardharris6194
      @edwardharris6194 Рік тому +8

      seems like a very interesting topic. this video has made me wonder about how aware drivers are of the locations of signals which they should be paying attention to. i imagine on a day to day basis the vast majority of warning lights arent used for many things seperate from the routine. for me its incredibly easy to see how human error like the kind in this video happens, and i imagine a stopped steam locomotive makes a massive impact on the visibility nearby too.

    • @cooperised
      @cooperised Рік тому +4

      @@edwardharris6194 Good route knowledge is essential for a train driver, at least here in the UK. Check out "obey my signals" channel, he has some really informative cab view videos that show this quite effectively.

    • @Olhado256
      @Olhado256 Рік тому +9

      The Sulphur Springs Train Wreck of 1922 (which would make an excellent indie rock band name, by the way)

    • @babecat2000
      @babecat2000 Рік тому +2

      Wow I live in Missouri also and never heard of this. Just curious did you work at walmart you sound familiar if so I am clara and hi.

  • @ulazygit
    @ulazygit Рік тому +27

    My uncle had just crossed the overhead walkway on his way to school when the trains hit at Harrow and Wealdstone …

    • @borderlands6606
      @borderlands6606 Рік тому +4

      One of the victims was a person crossing the bridge.

  • @yuvgotubekidding
    @yuvgotubekidding Рік тому +22

    The thoroughness and depth of research that goes into your channel is impeccable. 👍🇺🇸

  • @Noah_Levy
    @Noah_Levy Рік тому +17

    I saw the crash in a documentary when I was a kid. The story of the boy asking for an absence note after helping with the crash is a funny tidbit in an otherwise grim event. Imagine being the teacher when he walks in with that note!

  • @johnnymartinjohansen
    @johnnymartinjohansen Рік тому +18

    Such a great channel. Tells the stories with all the facts, without unnecessary bs artificially prolonging it to an hour, like most channels do. Thank you very much :)

  • @Alyrulz421
    @Alyrulz421 Рік тому +12

    For some reason I love listening to these thru my headphones while I’m working

    • @MusicLeeSarah
      @MusicLeeSarah Рік тому

      I feel the same way about listening to Jiles do this is monster's and somewhere sinister. I end up being more productive when I do LOL

  • @NickRPGreen
    @NickRPGreen Рік тому +17

    I've been enjoying this channel for sometime and started a new job in Harrow six months ago, so commute via this station twice a week. I've seen the plaque and the memorial that stretches up the bridge, so it was great to learn the history behind it from a familiar source. Great job as always.

  • @ferociousgumby
    @ferociousgumby Рік тому +5

    The lady with the lipstick was brilliant! What a practical, simple yet effective way to save lives.

  • @meligoth
    @meligoth Рік тому +6

    There could not have been a better bunch of strangers who heeded the call to help their fellow humans. From a boy scout to passing Americans, helped without hesitation.

  • @ghostfacegirl180
    @ghostfacegirl180 Рік тому +2

    I can not stress enough how much I appreciate the consistent volume and tone in all your videos. No cuts to new reports, no sound effects, no raised voices; just a calm tone talking about exactly the kind of stuff my morbid brain likes learning about. Perfect for relaxing.

  • @davidfarrow875
    @davidfarrow875 Рік тому +2

    I drove on the route through Harrow from 2006 until I retired two years ago. To this day it is possible to see the gouges on the platform faces of the fast line platforms, and the section of the footbridge over the fast line has slightly different spacing of the windows and support ribs where it was rebuilt. Just one note - in the final minute of the video the panel of yellow and red buttons shown is not from the Automatic Warning System installed after the Harrow crash, but from the much later TPWS system installed after the Southall and Ladbroke Grove crash. I was actually involved in the testing of improvements to this later system around 2008, being one of the 'guinea pig' drivers who tried out new button configurations in a simulator in order to gain information on what was the safest and most intuitive method of working. As a result of the implementation of the full TPWS system, collisions due to SPADs are now extremely rare in the UK, and if they do happen they tend to be at very low speed now. The only notable one in recent years was the collision at Salisbury where leaf mulch on the rail heads was the primary cause of the accident, something even TPWS would struggle to protect trains from the effects of.

  • @spacecowgurl57
    @spacecowgurl57 Рік тому +4

    I am blown away by not only the crash itself but the amazing human reaction. Abby Sweetwine sounds like a war nurse. There was one who similarly did markings at Pearl Harbor.

    • @shaunstrasser1
      @shaunstrasser1 Рік тому +1

      Some one posted she was a WWII, Korean War and Vietnam War nurse

  • @ShadowSorcerer
    @ShadowSorcerer Рік тому +9

    Man that's one hell of a excuse note.
    "HI sorry I'm late I was saving people in a train crash."

    • @thelarryman482
      @thelarryman482 Рік тому

      Add that to: sorry, I had to drag myself to hoepital following a deadly car crash

  • @theresadimaggio7241
    @theresadimaggio7241 Рік тому +8

    God bless that young woman who insisted in helping the crash victims and also the boy scout. God bless them and all the victims.

  • @bobblebardsley
    @bobblebardsley Рік тому +9

    That zoom-out reveal at 0:32 is nicely executed.

  • @SpiderxPunk
    @SpiderxPunk Рік тому +9

    *Perfect timing!*
    Just got blindsided by some late night sadness; this was a great distraction.

    • @MusicLeeSarah
      @MusicLeeSarah Рік тому +8

      I don't know what you're going through but sending positive and healing vibes your way 💛

  • @k9teen20
    @k9teen20 Рік тому +17

    Abbie Sweetwine was clearly an angel and hero taking quick action. Thank goodness she was there.

  • @kellyc6380
    @kellyc6380 Рік тому +9

    I always feel guilty for enjoying “fascinating horror” 😂 well done once again

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 Рік тому +5

    Always look forward to Tuesday mornings.

  • @markstott6689
    @markstott6689 Рік тому +4

    The station at 03.01 is actually Kings Cross and not Euston. It's still a London station though.

  • @thomastaylor6699
    @thomastaylor6699 4 місяці тому

    It's always good to hear about people who, in time of need, help others out.

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 Рік тому +10

    Speaking of rail disasters could you speak about the Buttevant train crash which was the biggest railway disaster in the history of Ireland.

    • @gerardacronin334
      @gerardacronin334 Рік тому +2

      It’s ironic that one of the contributing factors to mortality at Buttevant was the continued use of old wooden carriages on CIE. In 1980. It seems they had not learnt from this accident 28 years before.

    • @Krzyszczynski
      @Krzyszczynski Рік тому

      I take it you mean the Irish Republic? (in which case you're right to leave out that little affair near Armagh in 1889.)

  • @jaybee4118
    @jaybee4118 Рік тому +5

    I’m disappointed so many are taking the opportunity to talk down about kids today because of one child 70 years ago. That child was a hero, but not many kids get the chance to be a hero or have lived through the tail end of a war and the aftermath in a city that was one of the worst hit during the war. Kids being less likely to cope with a disaster (which is something we won’t know unless they’re in a disaster remember) is something to be glad about. It means they aren’t growing up in traumatic circumstances. I’m gen X and I hoped my generation would be better to the younger generation than boomers etc were to us. Nope, they and millennials are just as bad, repeating the stupidity of talking down to and assuming the worst of younger generations. I’m disappointed in anyone that does it. Be better.

  • @mattscudder1975
    @mattscudder1975 Рік тому +7

    Thank you! I grew up in Harrow and I’ve known about this disaster most of my life and I’ve been waiting and hoping that you’d do a clip about this because you have an amazing way of putting things and I really wanted to see your take on this disaster.

  • @zulie9378
    @zulie9378 Рік тому +2

    Getting close to 1 million…thank you for your work

  • @ianchapman4274
    @ianchapman4274 Рік тому +4

    A well done history on this story, I first read about this in the book Red for Danger by LTC Rolt which is well worth a read and includes the Quintinshill disaster. Just one point, the picture you show of the warning system is actually TPWS which was fitted after the Paddington disaster. The in-cab warning for the AWS system is a 'sunflower' which is a circular yellow and black warning instrument along with an audible alarm that must be acknowledged and is still used today.

    • @iankingsleys2818
      @iankingsleys2818 Рік тому

      despite a good number of subsequent train crashes, Tom Rolt's book still stands head and shoulders above the rest

  • @thefez-cat
    @thefez-cat Рік тому +3

    Abigail "Abbie" Sweetwine, the Angel of Platform Six, graduated in nursing from the first Black hospital in Jacksonville, Alabama, the George A. Brewster Hospital and School of Nurse Training. She was the sole nurse of a USAF emergency response team sent from the new Air Force Hospital at Rislip; the remainder of the team included seven doctors and was commanded by a Lieutenant Colonel. The team was dispatched after members of the 49th Medical Group who were on the train called the hospital to send help. Abbie would later be invited to a celebratory luncheon hosted at the Savoy by the Variety Artistes' Benevolent Fund (now the Royal Variety Charity) and given an engraved cigarette case. The work of the emergency team, including Abbie's skilled improvised triage techniques, are credited with inspiring the formation of paramedic services in the UK.
    Related: Brewster Hospital was founded because Black victims of the Great Fire of 1901 had nowhere to seek treatment -- all the hospitals in Jacksonville were white-only. They'd rather the wounded African-Americans *die* than deign to treat them until the Civil Rights Act was passed.

    • @stream3333
      @stream3333 Рік тому

      Thanks for Sharing this! ✨

  • @bilindalaw-morley161
    @bilindalaw-morley161 Рік тому +1

    Incidents like these, where commuters are living their ordinary lives, heading to a probably disliked daily job, are the real horrors to me. Rollercoaster accidents, ski lifts gone wrong, divers drowning, are all outside their common daily experiences. For want of a better word, there's a novelty to those. Most of them, I can think,"Well, no way I'd be..." It makes the imagining more personal. We have all caught commuter trains, all been on school and commuter busses, thoughtlessly expecting we will arrive safely with no dramas.
    Thank you, Fascinating. I would really like to see your take on the biggest Australian train disaster, at Granville Railway Station.

  • @lambdatauri
    @lambdatauri Рік тому +4

    I’m so glad this channel is finally getting the recognition it deserves. Been here since Dyatlov Pass video❤

  • @CrowwreakStevenson
    @CrowwreakStevenson Рік тому +2

    That's a ridiculously low death toll for that nature of crash.

  • @rhimccrorie6578
    @rhimccrorie6578 Рік тому +2

    You've done that story great justice. Well done.

  • @christyhubbard8074
    @christyhubbard8074 Рік тому +5

    Thank you for educating us with another disaster we may not have heard of before. Always interesting to learn the whole story of these terrible tragedies.

  • @TrinityCourtStudios
    @TrinityCourtStudios Рік тому +4

    As a railroader, and as a train dispatcher. This wreck is the type that gives me nightmares.
    Me sitting at my desk throwing switches and putting signals in for trains yet having a train disregard everything I’m doing to keep trains safely apart and people safe is an incredibly unnerving thought.
    Never leaves my mind fully when I’m working. Even though modern tech has really helped advance things more and more to seriously reduce the chances of this repeating itself in the UK, the US, or anywhere else in the world.

  • @cnra7x
    @cnra7x Рік тому +2

    I lived in Harrow most of my life and used to travel from the station every day and I have never heard of this before!

  • @ejthedhampir507
    @ejthedhampir507 Рік тому +4

    What a scene to behold. You're on your way to work one minute and fighting past twisted metal the next. Horrifying.

  • @jinnbuster4753
    @jinnbuster4753 Рік тому +1

    I lived in Harrow Weald at the time of this crash. I was four years old. My dad took me to see it. It was probably the day after the crash. He stood on the road bridge which goes over the station and put me on his shoulder so I could see. I remember seeing the trains on their sides and all the wreckage with smoke or steam coming off it. There were loads of people milling about.
    I have to admit that I have never noticed the plaque, even though I have been through that station loads of times. There is a rather crude painted mural on the wall of the road bridge. I think it was done by some school kids.

  • @Lyngypsy2112
    @Lyngypsy2112 Рік тому +2

    I actually live very near there in Northwood but lived in several places in Wealdstone...You are actually the 1st one I've seen that's posted ANYTHING on this apart from Pathe News e.t.c. but then you need to know what to look for...!! All the other train crashes are mentioned regularly but never this one, which is one of the worst EVER in the history of trains as if it never happened...I don't believe there has ever been before or after, another 3 train pile-up + if I'm right, I think about 112 dead?..I bought a book on it on ebay not long ago as I was surprised to find it + hardly anyone knows of it. Locally though, every year they are remembered on 8th October...In fact I personally know several people who were there to help with the clear up + some still have nightmares after the things they saw that day...Whenever I had to get a train from that station, especially if I was pretty much alone, I always got a bit creeped out but didn't know why as I'd not heard the story at that time. Once I found out the truth, it all made sense of why it felt so off...You can still feel it today, a thickness in the air that's hard to describe.. Thank you so much for uploading this, for all the lost, friends + families...x

    • @neilvann2670
      @neilvann2670 24 дні тому +1

      Quintinshill, 1915, involved 4 trains. An estimated 250 were killed.

  • @pvanpelt1
    @pvanpelt1 Рік тому +3

    I’m imagining the school secretary when Gilbert turned up late and probably grubby, and handed her that note. The crash was probably all over the radio that morning, and finding out he’d been helping with the rescue!?
    I know it was a different time and place to where I am, but I’d have been so proud of him. Send him to the school nurse to make sure his cuts and scratches were clean and so he could wash up, while I poke my head in the principal’s office with a, “You’re never going to guess why Gilbert was late.” And slip him money for a candy bar on the way home. I hope somebody gave him a hug and told him they were proud of him.

  • @reachandler3655
    @reachandler3655 Рік тому +5

    Another excellent episode bringing the past to life, thankyou. Considering the wreckage and number of people involved, I'm truly amazed how many survived.

  • @melodyszadkowski5256
    @melodyszadkowski5256 Рік тому +2

    I learn something amazing with every one of your videos. Being from the other side of the Great Pond, I have learned more European history from this channel than I ever learned in school.

  • @1630revelloify
    @1630revelloify Рік тому +1

    I live five minutes from Harrow and Wealdstone station and while there is acknowledgement of the crash, I'd like to see mention of Lt. Abbie Sweetwine there. She basically invented triage that day - who knows how many lives she saved. Gilbert Powell is also a forgotten hero and his name also deserved to be mentioned. One interesting fact missed here is that the sole police motorcycle with an experimental radio in the whole of London was just outside the station as the crash occurred, so ambulances arrived more quickly - however, they often ferried the less injured to hospital rather than wait for those in need of more urgent medical care. Thankfully, lessons were learned. RIP.

  • @cerneuffington2656
    @cerneuffington2656 Рік тому +2

    In the early 1990s, i was walking through Exmouth Market in Clerkenwell. One of the market traders was selling some junk and a couple of old newspapers on his stall. This disaster was the headline on both of those papers.

  • @yakacm
    @yakacm Рік тому +9

    imagine surviving all the way thru WW2, only to perish in a train crash on the way to work, just awful.

  • @bill392
    @bill392 Рік тому +2

    I never knew about this accident. Incredible photos, especially given their age. I think it's a small miracle that many more people were not killed and that there was no fire in the pileup. Very tragic accident but at least lessons were learned from it and safety systems were improved. I wonder if that brave little boy is still living today? He should get a medal.

  • @dawnstorm9768
    @dawnstorm9768 Рік тому +4

    That could have been a lot worse! 112 is 112 too many, but for a disaster of that size, it's incredibly low. Looks like the 70th anniversary of the tragedy is coming up. Wonder if that boy scout is still living?

  • @davehardy3527
    @davehardy3527 Рік тому +2

    The GWR Pioneered AutoMatic Train Control in 1906, and was adopted as standard, not as an experiment. It survived into the 1980,s when it was superseded by the BR AWS. So there was in England a warning system in place during adverse weather or poor visibility!!!!

    • @CplBurdenR
      @CplBurdenR Рік тому

      Unfortunately, whilst the GWR was a relatively well-off railway, both wars had massively ran down the railways, and the LMS (formed in 1923) was particularly severely hit by the stresses of the Second World War. Even as the London Midland Region of BR in the 50s, it was badly needing investment and overhaul, which again Britain of the 1950s could not afford.
      TLDR: yes the technology was there but there simply wasn't the money, and sadly lives were lost because of it.

  • @gregkiteos1936
    @gregkiteos1936 Рік тому +5

    It's always interesting to hear different perspectives of this particular accident and I've learnt things about it that I previously didn't know before. But I am curious to know why you used a picture of Kings Cross station at 3:01

  • @ridethasno
    @ridethasno Рік тому +7

    2:28am here in Washington State USA 🇺🇸
    Sending love to whoever reads this… ❤

  • @HippoPete
    @HippoPete Рік тому +7

    Thank you for your content. Stories that should be remembered.

  • @luvondarox
    @luvondarox Рік тому +4

    "So great was the noise of these two consecutive crashes that the station clerk picked up the phone to call emergency services without even looking to see what had happened."
    I can imagine.

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому

      From a completely impartial view, I wouldn't want to look either. You probably know what you're going to see...

    • @capnskiddies
      @capnskiddies Рік тому +2

      You become accustomed to the noise of accidents. For a short time I worked at a station with a railway bridge beside it. The noise of a lorry crashing into the bridge would have you reaching for the phone to close the line, without even checking.

  • @atheistpower5659
    @atheistpower5659 Рік тому +3

    I am hooked on this channel after watching just a few videos and it`s all because of the voice of the narrator good job and very creepy at times I Love it !

  • @northerntoe
    @northerntoe Рік тому +1

    What an absolutely terrible disaster but holy crap that was a really really well done drawing

  • @whatweather
    @whatweather Рік тому +40

    WOW! That young man is a HERO if I ever saw one. How courageous. I hope he went on to live a long and fulfilling life, he deserves it, and I hope his teacher wasn't angry!! 🤣

    • @juanpablosaenz9037
      @juanpablosaenz9037 Рік тому

      That young man deserved to be knighted.

    • @iwasglad122
      @iwasglad122 Рік тому +2

      @@a1c3c3u I wonder did he, perhaps, live with a form of PTSD all his life? Very possibly. That terrible day he must have come across some sights that no youngster should have been exposed to. Extraordinary courage.

    • @goawayleavemealone2880
      @goawayleavemealone2880 Рік тому +4

      @@iwasglad122 - Considering what he might have seen in his younger years growing up in war torn London, this might well have been the event that pushed him over the edge. However his life turned out, I think we can all agree he deserved to be acknowledged as a hero.

    • @iwasglad122
      @iwasglad122 Рік тому

      @@goawayleavemealone2880 Unequivocally.

  • @kodymcmullen5691
    @kodymcmullen5691 Рік тому +3

    The stories on this channel are crazy. And so detailed. Very similar to how this is monsters does his serial killer episodes. Super detailed and very on point with how a story should be told truthfully.

  • @jacekatalakis8316
    @jacekatalakis8316 Рік тому +20

    Also, Abbie Sweetwine is a true heroine of this disaster. She's not called the Angel of Platform 6 for nothing. She is absolutely amazing, especially considering how the US and UK were towards people of different skin colors as well. After all, 1952 was the era of teddy boys and hunting down various 'undesirable' people.
    The USAF medical team were at South Ruislip, but I thought there was an RAF medical team as well wasn't there or am I getting it mixed up with another/earlier crash.

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad Рік тому +1

      What fantasy are you playing out? Specially considering? Are you 5 that been taught some fake history? There’s was hardly any ‘hunting’ down anyone in Britain in the 1950’s even people with dark skin.

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +3

      Using the lipstick was genius. I hope they reimbursed her for the expense, lol...

    • @eadweard.
      @eadweard. Рік тому

      We have to remember this happened at a time when people didn't understand how vitally important race is.

  • @davidjheathcote
    @davidjheathcote 4 місяці тому

    My late father should have been on the local train. We lived at Hatch End, and he caught the train daily to Euston. However, in 1952, my mother had a recurring nightmare: we HAD to be in Ireland with my grandparents for my birthday on October 10th. Crossing the Irish Sea was no fun in October, but we were in Athy when my parents opened the daily newspaper and read of the accident on the 8th. I have used this story, and my father's escape, regularly in school assembly when I was a teacher (you could hear a pin drop!), on my local radio station, and at my local men's breakfast group (with ketchup bottles representing the three trains!) It's a gripping tale.

  • @briankinder9292
    @briankinder9292 Рік тому +1

    The sad thing I find with this accident was that the GWR introduced ATC back in 1910, mainly on main lines. The LMS ran trails on the LT&SR in 1932, introduction being held up WW2,then Nationalization of the railways. We even still had fogmen who would place explosive caps on the track to warn drivers of a signal at danger. So many safety systems that could have stopped the crash, nothing was in place to stop this crash.

  • @madmattdigs9518
    @madmattdigs9518 Рік тому +1

    I’ve never heard of this disaster. Another great video, thanks for sharing this.

  • @kristigibbons8520
    @kristigibbons8520 Рік тому +8

    I love your videos & find myself looking forward to the next one! Keep up the great work!

  • @sdraper2011
    @sdraper2011 Рік тому +1

    You are a superb narrator. 👍I love the follow up you do about the changes enacted to make things safer after the disaster.

  • @pippagrey9633
    @pippagrey9633 Рік тому +1

    A friend of mine was on a train in Ireland which derailed due to an unswitched switch. This was in the '80s and CIE *still* had some wood frame rolling stock. On this train, they were primarily the first class carriages.
    The wood frame carriages fared ... poorly.
    Thankfully for her, my friend (traveling with her baby) had arrived late and been unable to get on the first class carriage; she ended up with a slipped disc and her child was unharmed.

  • @coppercappedproductions506
    @coppercappedproductions506 Рік тому +2

    Interestingly a version of AWS had been in use on the GWR for decades prior to the disaster. There are some very interesting contemporary cases of AWS issues on mainline steam, most noticeable of which was when the crew of an engine were able to turn the system off completely and ofc that was the day they weren't paying attention to the signals and narrowly averted a major collision. Just goes to show that fail safes aren't always fail safe.

    • @worldcomicsreview354
      @worldcomicsreview354 Рік тому

      The paddington crash in 2000 was caused by the system being off and the driver being distracted at the wrong moment. If it was working the train would have stopped in time.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 Рік тому +5

    In 1952 very little of the national network had been electrified.

  • @space.404
    @space.404 Рік тому +3

    Despite it being a tragedy, I'm glad it kinda ended in a good note, with people coming together to assist the injured, and creating new ways to prevent this from ever happening again, I wish more stories where like this, a community ready to help each other.

  • @franceskronenwett3539
    @franceskronenwett3539 Рік тому +3

    What a dreadful thing to happen. Many years ago whilst still living in England I worked for British Rail and commuted every day from Hemel Hempstead to Euston Station, passing through Harrow and Wealdstone Station. Apparently smog made the situation worse. This terrible accident occurred two months before the great London smog of December 1952 which led to the passing of the Clean Air Act.

  • @Real_g.s.
    @Real_g.s. Рік тому +3

    Love these stories. Love this channel! Thank you!

  • @SpearFisher85
    @SpearFisher85 Рік тому +2

    Excellent as always! Railway disasters are a favorite of mine.

  • @totallyrealname6376
    @totallyrealname6376 Рік тому

    I love these stories with all the clauses at the beginning "The worst train diester in history... In peacetime... In britain... on a Tuesday"

  • @amberfaux2329
    @amberfaux2329 Рік тому +7

    caught me just about to sleep

    • @vicvinegar7671
      @vicvinegar7671 Рік тому

      same. idk why sad disaster stories are comforting before bed but they are

    • @broguns2420
      @broguns2420 Рік тому

      Ikr

    • @broguns2420
      @broguns2420 Рік тому

      What a good bedtime story😅

    • @xr6lad
      @xr6lad Рік тому

      Not here. It’s 7.30pm Tuesday night.

  • @EMD-jc5by
    @EMD-jc5by Рік тому +2

    I live in Wealdstone I use this station everyday. There’s a little memorial at the front of the station.

  • @isabelwood1671
    @isabelwood1671 Рік тому +3

    My uncle missed this crash by a hairsbreadth. He ran for his usual train but just missed it. This was the train standing on the platform at Harrow. Meanwhile my poor aunt heard the news on the radio and for several hours thought the worst. Of course, he was sitting on the following train which had stopped. When he walked through the door at home hours later you can only imagine how they felt.

  • @__-jt4tv
    @__-jt4tv Рік тому +4

    Generally, really good, picking up all the key details of an incident that I was recently reminded of in the railway press.
    Though, couple of small details-
    * Most of the British railway network *hasn't* been Electrified. In 1952, the West Coast Mainline through Harrow was 5+ years from Electrification and in 2022 we're only just getting around to some of the other mainlines. Even upgrading to diesel-electric traction was still pending in 1952.
    * The forerunner to BR's Automatic Warning System (AWS), which would have potentially prevented the accident, had been in operation on the Great Western Mainline since the 1930's. As is a recurring theme in these disasters, cost and inter-company pride prevented it being rolled out onto other British mainlines sooner...
    Sorry, just a passing railway nerd ;-)
    Also, for lucky escapes.. there's one account of a school kid who alighted the stopped commuter service, bounded up the footbridge, heard the collision and ended up running for his life as the footbridge collapsed behind him..!

  • @Mark-xx3gh
    @Mark-xx3gh Рік тому +2

    Would love to see you do a story on the Bryn Athyn train crash of 1921 in Pennsylvania.

  • @skunkrat01
    @skunkrat01 Рік тому

    Gosh you think the first crash with two trains is bad enough, then the third one comes along.
    Yet another great short documentary about a terrible tragedy, but which shows the human spirit in the end.

  • @jacekatalakis8316
    @jacekatalakis8316 Рік тому +10

    Already knew about this but you put details in I didn't know about as well.
    Worth pointing out train incidents like this were not rare in the 40s/50s too. Also fog, 1952. Is the Great Smog on your list, FH?

    • @BlighterProductions
      @BlighterProductions Рік тому +2

      He has already done a video on the Great Smog of 1952

    • @MarcelVos
      @MarcelVos Рік тому +3

      He's already done the Great Smog.

    • @pinkiedee
      @pinkiedee Рік тому +1

      I think he covered it about a year ago if I recall correctly.

    • @MusicoftheDamned
      @MusicoftheDamned Рік тому

      @@pinkiedee A bit more recently than that at 11 months, but yeah, basically. I had actually thought it more recent, but I think that's just because I watched it a lot more recently after the fact.

    • @asdfreii
      @asdfreii Рік тому +1

      Yep a lot of modern standards and conventions about how to act on approach to stations came about from incidents like this.

  • @tyrikuntamed4206
    @tyrikuntamed4206 Рік тому +1

    Yes! I am a huge fan of your videos and I love trains. Please do more rail disasters stories in the future 🙏🏾