Chicago's Lake Shore Drive Problem | The History of "DuSable Lake Shore Drive"

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  • @michellemo7552
    @michellemo7552 Рік тому +247

    Chicagoans do not accept new names. It's Sears Tower, Comiskey Park, Marshall Fields, and Lake Shore Drive...

    • @GregEagel
      @GregEagel Рік тому +12

      I’m annoyed with both Congress and LSD. I’m all for naming things after Ida B. Wells and DuSable. I’m also for renaming some streets. Balbo and Columbus come to mind. Upper and Lower Wacker could use some clarification separate naming conventions may help. But the executions with Congress and LSD were terrible. It’s confusing because both roadways revert to their old naming outside of the downtown area

    • @jason60
      @jason60 Рік тому +16

      60647 here. Born raised and will probably die a 47. I 100% agree. No new names for me. I still use the old names

    • @firesonic1010
      @firesonic1010 Рік тому +16

      What we Chicagoans SHOULD rename, is all the buildings and institutions that bear Richard J Daley's name. That man, nor his son, does not deserve to be honored.

    • @RealRavi
      @RealRavi Рік тому +2

      💯

    • @googie300
      @googie300 Рік тому +3

      Times change people change Either you evolve or you get left behind

  • @huntrrams
    @huntrrams Рік тому +269

    It will always be Lake Shore Drive to us

    • @PatriotCody
      @PatriotCody Рік тому +33

      Just like the Sears Tower, I'll never call it the whatever they renamed it oh yeah Willis Tower, which Just reminds me of Bruce Willis.

    • @Will-me8zw
      @Will-me8zw Рік тому +17

      Seriously, the road, the song, the city, all iconic! Couldn't they just rename a less famous stretch of asphalt?

    • @johnbaker215
      @johnbaker215 Рік тому +9

      It will always be Lake Shore Crawford Ave in Chicago, Sears Tower, Standard Oil Building, Rosemont Horizon, Sears Centre arena in Hoffmann Estates and the Northwest Tollway

    • @APerson-ni1gb
      @APerson-ni1gb Рік тому +5

      @@johnbaker215 The John Hancock

    • @GRANOLA77
      @GRANOLA77 Рік тому +2

      Yeah fr man

  • @carolynhotchkiss4760
    @carolynhotchkiss4760 Рік тому +36

    It will always be Lake Shore Drive to me. I grew up in the area in the 1960s, and a fun family outing used to be to drive down Sheridan to get onto Lake Shore Drive at the north end, drive all the way down south and go to the Museum of Science and Industry (loved that place!). I remember the S curve when it was still a bit hairy to drive. I hear it's been smoothed out a bit since those days. It's a lovely drive, even in traffic.

  • @jeffnewman9654
    @jeffnewman9654 Рік тому +60

    It's a very common mistake, but that was not the Edgewater Beach Hotel. It was the Edgewater Beach Apartments, which was a part of the hotel's campus. The hotel consisted of 2 buildings just to the south of apartments and were torn down in 1971 after the hotel went out of business in 1967. Losing their beach front in 1957 when the drive got extended to Hollywood and separated them from the beach, probably didn't help their business.

    • @DirtyTechnoBitch
      @DirtyTechnoBitch Рік тому

      Came here to say the same ☺️

    • @PeterDunnPhotographer
      @PeterDunnPhotographer 7 місяців тому

      Went to the White Formal there junior year in high school, lovely fancy place in 1967. My parents went to a lot of events there too.

  • @defur45
    @defur45 Рік тому +56

    I never change the names of places I have always known as one name. Sears Tower is Sears Tower. Comiskey Park Is Comiskey park. Lake Shore Drive will always be Lake Shore Drive.
    Great video.

    • @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
      @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Рік тому

      Chicago changes everything or either sell it to someone else to change.

    • @giacobbeperales5926
      @giacobbeperales5926 Рік тому +2

      Don't forget they changed John Hancock's name as well.

    • @sterlinsilver
      @sterlinsilver 5 місяців тому +2

      I'll be deep in the ground before I call the sears tower anything else...

  • @plisskenationbackfromthede3657
    @plisskenationbackfromthede3657 Рік тому +26

    I crashed in the corner just out of frame going southbound. That sucked lol. That second corner in the S tightens up real quick and is often wet even if its not raining, so be careful lol. RIP little jetta. Thats how i found lower lower lower wacker drive, trying to find where they took my car lol

  • @_NoDrinkTheBleach
    @_NoDrinkTheBleach Рік тому +44

    I took a drive on Lake Shore last September from Balbo to Sheridan. It was surpringly light on traffic that day, so it was a lovely trip from start to finish. Considering how developed Chicago is, it's nice to see the better part of the 8 mile stretch kept as park land.

    • @mdf3530
      @mdf3530 Рік тому +2

      My favorite times to drive on Lake Shore Drive are either direction on a clear day or into the Loop from the North Side on a clear night.

    • @GregEagel
      @GregEagel Рік тому +1

      Now that’s something we should rename. Balbo was a Facist

    • @tcorourke2007
      @tcorourke2007 11 місяців тому +2

      Except, of course, for the 8 lane highway running through it 🫤

    • @luisreyes1963
      @luisreyes1963 7 місяців тому

      ​@@GregEagel It was renamed in 2022 to Ida B. Wells Road.

    • @joshuaychung
      @joshuaychung 4 місяці тому

      @@luisreyes1963 Unfortunately, Balbo is still Balbo. The city leaders saw it fit to change Congress Pkwy, one of more important roads, to Ida B Wells Drive. I still have to think about it for a second when anyone or anything (i.e. GPS) mentions Ida Be Wells Drive. Congress Pkwy should have stayed as Congress Pkwy.

  • @alexmurrell4183
    @alexmurrell4183 Рік тому +40

    Love the Chicago content man. Keep it coming!!!

  • @soxfan773
    @soxfan773 Рік тому +10

    The worst thing you can do to someone is name a piece of traffic after them such as the Jane Byrne interexchabge

  • @jilledmondson6894
    @jilledmondson6894 Рік тому +13

    From what I remember being told by a professor of Chicago history at Northwestern University DuSable settled near todays Pioneer Court, next door to the Tribune Tower on the Chicago River. This is now about 5-6 blocks from the lake. Chicago is a beautiful city.

    • @eric_has_no_idea
      @eric_has_no_idea Рік тому +6

      Back then, the lake was a few blocks further inland. The coast was marsh / swamp. Many parts came to about Michigan Ave.

    • @jacklewis5452
      @jacklewis5452 Рік тому +1

      @@eric_has_no_idea --- You are correct, Michigan Avenue was the shoreline of Old Lake Michigan.

  • @realShadowKat
    @realShadowKat Рік тому +8

    It was also once bantered about to make Lake Shore Drive a legit part of the interstate system as I-494. Honestly, glad that didn't happen. US41 was one of the few US routes that survived the great route purge in the Chicago city limits.

    • @PhyllisJerry
      @PhyllisJerry Рік тому

      I’ve heard before that the Hoan Bridge in Milwaukee was built with the understanding that LSD/494 would eventually extend along the entire lakefront from Chicago to Milwaukee. Not sure how much truth there is to that, but the bridge doesn’t really connect to anything at the southern end so it’s definitely plausible.

    • @bonzogamer6966
      @bonzogamer6966 Рік тому

      I once lived on US41 - in Florida. Tamiami Trail.

  • @johnnada5754
    @johnnada5754 Рік тому +2

    60653 here. Grew up in North Kenwood just a few blocks west LSD. It will forever and always be Lake Shore Drive!

  • @bryanCJC2105
    @bryanCJC2105 Рік тому +23

    I live a block from Lake Shore Drive and it is now signed "John Baptiste Point DuSable Lake Shore Drive". Nobody is going to call it this. The name is too ridiculously long. If it's too long to say, it's too long to use. The Michigan Ave Bridge was renamed the DuSable Bridge in 2010 and I have never heard anyone call it that. People say "Michigan Ave Bridge" because that is what it is, just like Lake Shore Drive. You're very unlikely to change a name that describes exactly what it is. I understand the desire to honor John Baptiste Point DuSable, but how does that tie in to who he is and what he represents? Instead of renaming something, why not create a unique and exciting space with that name for the purpose of memorializing him and what he represents? Lake Shore Drive will always be called Lake Shore Drive.

    • @anuday2022
      @anuday2022 Рік тому +1

      Well, nobody Calls King Dr., Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, which is the actual name of that street overtime Lakeshore Drive will just be called DuSable Drive

    • @joewalla8438
      @joewalla8438 Рік тому +2

      I wonder what Chicago icons will be renamed for mayor Beetlejuice by the woksters? 🤔

    • @rogerakline6148
      @rogerakline6148 Рік тому

      doubt

    • @morewi
      @morewi 11 місяців тому

      The goal is to erase history. That's why they are all for removing statues and renaming things

    • @tcorourke2007
      @tcorourke2007 11 місяців тому

      ​@@anuday2022No, they call it DuSable Lake Shore Dr.

  • @herlettahunter3967
    @herlettahunter3967 Рік тому +13

    LSD doesn’t end at the at the MSI, it’s ends near 67th Jeffery.

  • @stephenmoerlein8470
    @stephenmoerlein8470 Рік тому +18

    As a point of accuracy, the view near the end of the video is of the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), not the University of Chicago (UC). UC has a much more picturesque gothic campus, as opposed the to famously brutalist campus of UIC. Thanks for posting this visit to LSD!

    • @daltonsday
      @daltonsday 8 місяців тому +1

      Came here to say this!

  • @R.U.1.2.
    @R.U.1.2. Рік тому +2

    The"Cowsills" or possibly the "Partridge Family" also had a hit about Lakeshore Drive in the late sixties or seventies. I'll do my best with part of the lyrics..."You take a trip down Lakeshore Drive 'til you're out of the city."..(and so on). Maybe other people can remember the rest of the lyrics, better than I can. It really is a culturally iconic road. Good luck to the supporters of this retention of the original and more recognizable name. I think people would appreciate a local icon, retaining its name. that's so familiar.

  • @Backroad_Junkie
    @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +15

    Soundstage did a Chicago band reunion (Chase, Ides of March, etc.), and Aliotta, Haynes and Jeremiah was invited. They didn't even remember the song. They admitted they had to go out and buy the album so they could recreate the song for the show.
    It was called, "Cormestones of Rock: American Garage". It might actually be available someplace....
    And LSD was always Lake Shore Drive, even before the drug, lol...

    • @katiekane5247
      @katiekane5247 Рік тому

      I left N. Rodgers park after graduating from Evanston hospital nursing school in 1981. I still remember the song!

  • @mar4kl
    @mar4kl Рік тому +20

    Since I didn't grow up in Chicago, I don't feel a strong connection to the name of the road, as long as I know what road the traffic and news reports are talking about. But you failed to mention one of my favorite views along the Drive: driving southbound from North Avenue to the sharp bend at Oak Street Beach, you see The Drake and the classic buildings adjacent to it, plus the newer buildings behind it, looming straight ahead. That view just screams Old Chicago to me.

    • @kevinaguilar7541
      @kevinaguilar7541 Рік тому +1

      I lived in this city and I don't really understand the emotional attachment to a building and road. I find it weird.

  • @bretknol1981
    @bretknol1981 Рік тому +21

    Lake Shore drive was once know as "Outer Drive"

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +6

      That's actually because there's an "Inner" Lake Shore Drive. If there's a place with a "Lake Shore Dr." address, it's on the inner drive.

    • @TN-we3zt
      @TN-we3zt Рік тому +4

      Exactly. The terms "Inner Drive" abd "Outer Drive" are still used in that context.

    • @mattymayhem1232
      @mattymayhem1232 Місяць тому

      It’s still referenced as that. It's way of knowing if your talking about outer or inner LSD.

  • @djguy3000
    @djguy3000 Рік тому +1

    Been waiting for this one! Thank you. I'm fascinated by the evolution of this road.

  • @Brian-bp5pe
    @Brian-bp5pe Рік тому +16

    The campus photo shown near the end of your video was of the UIC East Campus, formerly known as the Chicago Circle Campus of the University of Illinois, once located at Navy Pier. The University of Chicago is west of DLSD, in Hyde Park, not far from the Museum of Science and Industry - which is clearly visible from the Drive.

    • @DanSwanson2070
      @DanSwanson2070 Рік тому

      You are correct, I am a UIC graduate

    • @chrisj6n
      @chrisj6n Рік тому

      Definitely, not a photo of the University of Chicago. UChicago looks more like something out of Harry Potter, with Gargoyles, limestone buildings, and the Midway Plaisance.

  • @sterlinsilver
    @sterlinsilver 5 місяців тому +2

    "And there aint no road just like it, anywhere I've found. running south on lake shore drive, heading into town"

  • @XprPrentice
    @XprPrentice Рік тому +6

    Watching this got me thinking about another scenic roadway I'd like to know more about, which one can pick up at the northern terminus of LSD: Sheridan Road. When I have to travel to the northern suburbs, I'd much rather take the longer, lovelier route than the expressway. You get some lake, some parkland, lots of pretty houses, the Baha'i temple.

  • @CFPVideoProductions
    @CFPVideoProductions Рік тому +2

    Another great video. Very interesting and informative. I loved it. Your final picture of the Museum of Science and Industry was not even mentioned. Wat a great place to visit.

  • @anttheaquarist7922
    @anttheaquarist7922 Рік тому

    Thanks for another fantastic video! Always love watching the content.

  • @saurabhbagai5982
    @saurabhbagai5982 Рік тому +2

    @15:33 you describe the “University of Chicago” however you have a view of the “university of illinois-Chicago (uic)” two very different campuses. What was the intent? U of C or UIC?

  • @tmcb_
    @tmcb_ Рік тому +22

    DuSable lived along the river for just 7 years (1793-1800) after which he left forever. The town of Chicago with just 200 residents was founded 33 years after he left.

    • @michaelstovall23
      @michaelstovall23 Рік тому +3

      And your point? He established the settlement.

    • @tmcb_
      @tmcb_ Рік тому +4

      He "established" a tavern/trading post not a settlement. Feel free to conflate the two...you wouldn't be the first.

    • @michaelstovall23
      @michaelstovall23 Рік тому +2

      So he established the trading post on the very land that would become a settlement. Ok.

    • @tcorourke2007
      @tcorourke2007 11 місяців тому +8

      ​@@michaelstovall23If he was white, the road would not have been renamed. And his statue would be removed, not erected.

    • @Zroolmpf_Celmbror
      @Zroolmpf_Celmbror 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@michaelstovall23 he existed in the middle of nowhere for a while and then left for greener pastures. Hardly an achievement.

  • @SynchroSk8
    @SynchroSk8 Рік тому +4

    We lived at 3800 N. LSD in the late 70s into the 80s. Absolutely amazing view, but the 1928 building didn’t cover the noise from Lake Shore Drive much, so that was something to get used to. Edit: corrected the direction and removed the Cubs comment thanks to DMs. My goodness, folks need to chill.

    • @thesoundofthesuburbs
      @thesoundofthesuburbs Рік тому +4

      Lake Shore Drive addresses are ONLY North, South, and East. There is no "West LSD".

    • @rolandvanags5141
      @rolandvanags5141 Рік тому +2

      You mean NORTH LSD,don't you?

    • @SynchroSk8
      @SynchroSk8 Рік тому +1

      Ha. Calm down, my goodness. We’ve got other folks comments to be concerned about in here 😆 yes, north.

  • @marcuswalton2922
    @marcuswalton2922 Рік тому +5

    He did not mention Museum Of Science And Industry. Also not mentioned when they removed the S curve!

  • @matthodel946
    @matthodel946 Рік тому

    My architecture professor in the 1990's told me that Lake Shore Drive was used as a makeshift temporary emergency aircraft landing runway in case other nearby airports were bombed. He told me that the road's center divider used to be able to move up and down with hydraulic pistons. I can't find anything in the history books to prove or refute this, but he was old and had a great memory. I enjoy all your Chicago videos; they're all great.

    • @tonymaiettasr.7340
      @tonymaiettasr.7340 Рік тому +1

      Yes the center divider moved up and down and depending on the time of day (rush hours) allowed for more lanes southbound during the morning and more lanes northbound in the evening. And IDOT would put cones down. If my memory serves me.

  • @AnnetteGorz
    @AnnetteGorz 3 місяці тому

    Well, as born and raised in this beautiful city by the lake, I will ALWAYS refer to these special landmarks as such: Lake Shore Drive, Comiskey Park, Sears Tower, and Marshall Fields! I am sure I am missing a few more but can't think of them at this time Excellent documentary! Thanks!

  • @bcp583
    @bcp583 Рік тому +2

    Leave it at Lake Shore Dr. Find another way to honor DuSable. Great video.

  • @jeffjay2323
    @jeffjay2323 7 місяців тому

    had a condo years ago at Montrose and LSD. 20th floor facing the lake and drive. loved the view.

  • @fortress1133
    @fortress1133 Рік тому +6

    Lusy in the Sky with Diamonds was also a song about LSD... Or so they said around the same period.Loved this drive if the traffic isn't piled up which it usually is.And like Sears Tower this will always be Lake Shore Drive. Especially if you are an Illinoian.

    • @denali9449
      @denali9449 Рік тому +1

      No, "Lucy" was written by Lennon-McCartney a a result of Julian Lennon coming home from school with a drawing of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", his teacher. "And the Lucy of the title? Her name was Lucy O’Donnell, and she attended Heath House, a private Weybridge nursery school, with Julian Lennon. She didn’t realize she had been immortalized in a Beatles song until she was 13, in 1976."

    • @fortress1133
      @fortress1133 Рік тому +1

      @@denali9449 Exactly. That was my reference.and Lake Sore Drive was not written about LSD but the public saw it that way back then.

    • @denali9449
      @denali9449 Рік тому +3

      @@fortress1133 No, no drugs, just an abbreviation of a road name. Cannot count the Friday nights we spent at the Briar and Broadway coffee houses until midnight and then making the run down LSD to the bars in Old Town. Then about 4 am we headed back north to our Bryn Mawr apartment near Edgewater. Wonder what that $100 a month apartment goes for today?

    • @fortress1133
      @fortress1133 Рік тому

      @@denali9449 I remember the drive well! I lived in IL all my life until 3 years ago. I need to pay a visit. I'm on Long Island now and that apartment would go for $3,000 a mo here if it's a 1BR 1BA!

  • @raymondhemphill146
    @raymondhemphill146 Рік тому +5

    I love your videos, and as a resident of Chicago (burbs now) really appreciate the Chicago themed videos.

  • @DLeadVox
    @DLeadVox Рік тому +1

    BRAVO!
    Its Lake Shore Drive or LSD
    It's Sears Tower
    It's Buckingham Fountain
    etc....
    You can't just change the names of stuff. Go slap the name on something that isn't named yet... Give it its own identity. It's own attraction and its own following. Yes, we love history and we love DuSable but why did Chicago have to go and pin his name to LSD and screw it up? Thats my opinion!!
    Thanks for another great episode! Love your channel! DD☮

  • @michaelpfister1283
    @michaelpfister1283 Рік тому

    Jackson park ... AND THE MUSEUM OF SCIENCE AND INDUSTRY! LOL When I was young my family lived on the Lake Michigan shore in Michigan. We often took the trip around the lake to visit Chicago and Dad loved the Museum of Science and Industry. I remember driving by on Lakeshore drive and seeing the U-505 out there was how we knew we were there! Its all underground/inside now, so you can't see it from the road anymore but I still love Jackson Park, the museum, and seeing those childhood memories. The Oasis travel centers were also a big part of that, though they are also getting rare. Thank you for the memories!

  • @basshorseman998
    @basshorseman998 Рік тому +1

    When I left Chicago, it WAS Sears, LSD, and so on...I have always introduced it as such since then, and always will...I watched the Sears tower go up, floor by floor...great stuff

  • @Backroad_Junkie
    @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +7

    One more LSD story! At one time the North/South lanes were separated by a standard Jersey Wall.
    The City decided it wasn't wasting enough money, so they beautified LSD. If you look at the pictures in the video, you'll see the later ones have a green divider between the lanes. The City spent millions and built a 6 foot (or so) wide divider, filled it with dirt, planted flowers and grass and trees.
    Then came the Groundhog Day Blizzard of 2011. The new divider not only made the middle of LSD beautiful, but it also prevented snow plows and tow trucks from quickly clearing the Northbound lanes if cars blocked the road. Hundreds of cars got stuck because no one could move. LSD was closed until the next morning.
    They later had to spend even more money creating openings in their beautiful median for access to the Northbound lanes should heavy snow ever fall in Chicago again...

  • @karentrimmer
    @karentrimmer Рік тому

    I spent New Year's Eve 1999 with friends on Navy Pier. Of course, Prince's "Party Like it's 1999" was blasting through the air and changed to Sting's "Starting of a Brand New Day" and fireworks when the clock struck 2000! One of my best times ever, especially because I shared it with people I love.

  • @IntriguedLioness
    @IntriguedLioness Рік тому +3

    *HI RYAN!!* I've never noticed a video on this on your channel so I want to propose covering the Brewster Apartments at Diversey Harbor ..
    History, imposing architecture, glass block hallways, cage elevator, subdivided yet I scored a studio there when I was a student. I simply loved running along Lake Shore Drive and through Lincoln Park.
    Chicago Was my 1st American city during my undergrad uni days and I loved the history and many distinct and vibrant neighborhoods.I
    Great coverage on the history but to me it will always be LSD, Sears Tower we'll always be the Sears Tower and yes, even Soldier Field remains Soldier Field in my heart.

  • @rbobinsky
    @rbobinsky 10 місяців тому

    "It starts up north at Hollywood, water on the driver's side...concrete mountains rearing up, throwing shadows just about five..."..iconic lyrics from the AH&J song. It is, and always will be...LSD!!!

  • @Backroad_Junkie
    @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +9

    Socash is right. They could rename Lake Shore Drive to anything they want, but it will still be Lake Shore Drive, just like the Sears Tower is still the Sears Tower... 😁

  • @fastbike175
    @fastbike175 Рік тому

    thanks so much we love these Chicago stories

  • @BRCH1987
    @BRCH1987 Рік тому +2

    4:05 is Lake Shore Drive Hotel. Defunct now, my grandfather was the GM of it for over 30 years. ^_^ Fun fact. I own a TON of items from it and keep them in climate controlled storage. Most things I have from 181 Lake Shore are from between 1928-1955. Today, it is known as The Mayfair Condos.

  • @stevenj9970
    @stevenj9970 Рік тому +13

    'Lake Shore Drive',
    'SEARS Tower', forever!! (no one calls it "Willis Tower") ZERO!!!
    I don't accept nor use corporate names of various parks, stadiums etc.

    • @robert4123
      @robert4123 Рік тому +4

      I call it the Sears tower also but you do realize Sears is. Strike that. Was a corporation and therefore a corporate name.

    • @DanielGarcia-wt9if
      @DanielGarcia-wt9if Місяць тому

      @@robert4123 who cares

    • @robert4123
      @robert4123 Місяць тому

      @@DanielGarcia-wt9if did you read the message I was replying under. I don’t care either but I pay attention.

  • @jpod197
    @jpod197 Рік тому +2

    I have been out of the chagaoland for 20 years. Lived there for my first 20. It will always be lakeshore drive. The sears tower. And the east west tollway. I cannot get my head around calling it the Ronald Regan.

  • @DrDiff952
    @DrDiff952 19 днів тому +1

    The U505 submarie at MSI crossed Lake Shore Drive

  • @wjborek
    @wjborek Рік тому +3

    I used to drive the Lake Shore Drive (outer drive) as a teenager. They used to have curbs that they could raise and lower to allow for the changing of direction of some of the lanes to increase north or southbound lanes for rush hour. I thought that should have been mentioned in your review.

    • @oldcargal5813
      @oldcargal5813 Рік тому

      we were on a school field trip in the 50s in the icy winter, the was an accident in front of us, and then the curbs came up under our bus, and our bus was stuck there for a longtime I will never forget it.

  • @GregEagel
    @GregEagel Рік тому +2

    The building you referred to as the Edgewater Beach Hotel is actually the Edgewater Beach Apartments. The Edgewater Beach Hotel was taller and more grand. It was torn down around 1967

  • @henrysantos121
    @henrysantos121 Рік тому +1

    Amazing videos very well done,
    Matatan,

  • @Budicles
    @Budicles Рік тому +11

    Ryan, I agree with you wholeheartedly. LSD it will always be. Sears Tower that same thing. Thank you for all these videos. I have lived here all my life and still learn things from your videos. Keep up the great work.

  • @IamSnowbird
    @IamSnowbird Рік тому +13

    I've never been to Chicago but it is on my bucket list. How do people cross the Drive to get to the beach?

    • @akas1255
      @akas1255 Рік тому +10

      Underground tunnels!

    • @surprisinggirth
      @surprisinggirth Рік тому +10

      There are pedestrian underpasses that go under the drive allowing you to cross. there are a few elevated ones but predominantly underpasses. Unfortunately many of them are not very inviting and look like something out of a horror movie. This was back in the mid twenty tens though.

    • @jonathanbowers8964
      @jonathanbowers8964 Рік тому +6

      It's better close to downtown and there is an easily accessible beach next to Navy Pier.

    • @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
      @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Рік тому +3

      Pedestrian walk ways under the drive.

    • @keithmoore5306
      @keithmoore5306 Рік тому

      if you go i suggest you rent a tank!!! and they walk across on all the flying lead!!!

  • @petersparacino6445
    @petersparacino6445 Рік тому +4

    Just waiting for all the complaints about potholes. Its Chicago tradition. ❤

  • @msbgone
    @msbgone Рік тому +6

    What year did they fix the S curve and what year did they change the lanes to go around Soldier Field? Great vid! More please.....

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +11

      The S-Curve construction was completed in late 1986, and was an effing nightmare for two years, lol...
      Both directions of LSD were moved to the West side of Soldier Field in the mid-90's, and was even worse, since that's where I-55 junctions with LSD...

  • @crabtonia
    @crabtonia 8 місяців тому

    More intriguing wirk...thank you...perfect proof that NOTHING is straightforward when rival interests set horns against each other...name-changes, by their very nature cause unfortunate and unnecessary confusion kerfuffle...the ola adage 'If it ain't broke...don't fix it' springs to mind...keep up the good work!...dgp/uk

  • @ilovetotri23
    @ilovetotri23 Рік тому +2

    I love Chicago! I visit as often as I can. You mentioned the naming of lake shore dr. I have a bigger issue with the naming of the Willis Tower.

    • @anuday2022
      @anuday2022 Рік тому

      Why, if Willis bought the seers tower, they can rename it to Willis!

  • @watchmanneil52776
    @watchmanneil52776 Рік тому +2

    Didn't they change California Ave to Martin Luther King Drive?! ...way back ...before you were born?! Another great vid, Ryan!

  • @mattymayhem1232
    @mattymayhem1232 Місяць тому

    I saw my condo quite a few times throughout the video. I always get excited when I see my place in a recording.

  • @jtdavis62
    @jtdavis62 Рік тому +3

    What are your thoughts about removing this noisy, dirty, and dangerous highway and restoring the lakefront as a public park. Although the posted speed limit is 40 MPH, most drivers routinely drive much faster. Access to the lakefront beaches is greatly hampered by the presence of this monstrosity. Removing DuSable Drive would improve the health of thousands of residents and visitors.

    • @anuday2022
      @anuday2022 Рік тому

      No it’s not! ithey have bridges over Lake shore Drive and tunnels underneath it. People are ridiculous!

    • @kevinaguilar7541
      @kevinaguilar7541 Рік тому

      @@anuday2022 but why should people be relegated to take a detour to get to the beach. Seems unfair to me

  • @Mike-DuBose
    @Mike-DuBose Рік тому +9

    I always call places and things by their original names or at least the names I knew them by. I traveled to Burma (Myanmar) and visited Rangoon (Yangon) and always called them by what I feel is their proper original names. When I went to Vietnam I visited several cities, including Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City), again it's Saigon to me.
    Jean Baptiste Point DuSable sounds like he deserves some recognition, perhaps erect a statue close to the location where he lived, maybe even open an information center at that same location for people to visit and learn more about him. I don't see how renaming part of a road does anything to honor the man or teach people who he was and his place in history.

    • @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
      @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Рік тому

      I like the new name DuSable Lake Shore Drive vs just lake shore drive.

    • @Jason-rn4jk
      @Jason-rn4jk Рік тому +4

      Same here, I call the western half of the US the Mexican Empire and the French Territory. Likewise the east coast Spanish Territory and British Territory.

    • @Mike-DuBose
      @Mike-DuBose Рік тому +1

      @@Jason-rn4jk I recently began calling all of the earth's land masses Pangea Pieces

    • @TheSpaceBrosShow
      @TheSpaceBrosShow Рік тому +2

      "Proper" names? The fucking entitlement on this one lmao

    • @MicMecca
      @MicMecca Рік тому +2

      There are hundreds of streets in Chicago named after people and as a kid it was cool learning this and then learning who those people were and why they got a street named after them. Or a neighborhood. So I can imagine how 10 years from now a kid's curiosity is sparked and they get to learn who DuSable was. And how rich and deep Chicago's history is. All because they asked who is this DuSable person this street is named after.

  • @rahuliyer7456
    @rahuliyer7456 4 місяці тому

    I remember riding Da Jeffer from the Loop into Hyde Park every weekend. I would get down at 53rd Street and Lake Park. I even remember driving South our of Hyde Park and connecting to The Skyway at Stony Island.

  • @stevesummers2462
    @stevesummers2462 Рік тому +4

    So when the limited access ends at 71st street it begins again at 79th street and continues through what use to be U.S.Steel South Works campus south of Rainbow Beach, why no mention all the way to 95th Street? Farther south it becomes Indianapolis through Burns Harbor and on down past the Gary-Chicago Airport. It's a beautiful set of roads all the way through Gary Indiana.

    • @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
      @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Рік тому

      True, he made it seem like it stopped at the science and industry museum.

    • @realShadowKat
      @realShadowKat Рік тому +1

      Being honest here, but I know it changes from "South Lake Shore Dr" to "South South Shore Drive" (yes two "Souths") but I don't know where the demarcation of that formally is -- I think in the Marquette/67th area.
      Also somewhere in the mid 2010s they realigned South Shore/US41 eastward in the south 70th's to remove congestion in the neighborhood, so it's not on the original alignment anymore either.

    • @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
      @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Рік тому

      @@realShadowKat people hate change but the world changes everyday, just evolve with it.

  • @Backroad_Junkie
    @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +9

    He fails to mention that at one time LSD was supposed to go further North from Hollywood Blvd. It was so expected, that Loyola University (by Devon Avenue) and Northwestern University (in Evanston) both faced buildings toward Lake Michigan in anticipation of the road being built further North, and having the buildings facing the Drive.
    Since then, both Universities have been building buildings that face the local streets.

    • @famousmoji
      @famousmoji Рік тому +1

      source?

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +3

      @@famousmoji Me, lol. Lived in the area for over 60 years, I've been on both campuses and have seen the buildings, and was confirmed by the people on campus.
      If you also look North from where LSD turns into Hollywood, you can clearly see where the road was going to go. There are no beaches, and nothing extends into the water.
      You can probably find a source, but a lot of information before the internet is hard to find...

    • @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79
      @iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 Рік тому

      I remember they were taking about extending lake shore drive past Hollywood exit. I think they were considering a bridge on the lake being it wasn’t available land to do it on past Hollywood but unfortunately people didn’t like the idea of a bridge roadway out in front of there beaches. I use to live in edge water and Rogers park.

  • @cliffpajaro8418
    @cliffpajaro8418 Рік тому +2

    Sadly the IMAX theater at Navy Pier closed during the pandemic. It's soon going to become the FlyOver Chicago ride.

  • @mdf3530
    @mdf3530 Рік тому +2

    You forgot the single biggest change: removing the S-curve.

  • @capnsalty0200
    @capnsalty0200 Рік тому +1

    How about Marshal Field/Macy's, Sears Tower, and Lake Shore Drive. I agree.

  • @ccsd0601
    @ccsd0601 Рік тому +4

    The picture you showed was of the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC) campus,not the University of Chicago campus, which is by the lake.

    • @Backroad_Junkie
      @Backroad_Junkie Рік тому +2

      Correct! But University Of Chicago isn't on the lake either. It's a mile inland directly West of the Museum of Science and Industry, which is the building he shows when he talks about the Golden Statue, lol. (at 15:48.)
      I guess if you can call Wrigley Field by the lake, then the UoC is by the lake... 😁

  • @chucksutphen1031
    @chucksutphen1031 Рік тому +4

    Proud Chicago native transplanted downstate here. I dunno, it's okay with me if they want to name part or all of it after DuSable. No one would deserve it more. When I was a kid riding down it in the back of my parents' '48 Chevy, they called it the Outer Drive. Aliotta Haynes Jeremiah made me proud of it with their song, and, yes, I HAVE snaked on by on LSD..l.

  • @skyblueo
    @skyblueo Рік тому +4

    New York City has renamed a bunch of bridges and tunnels lately, and it's not led to clarity. The Queensboro Bridge was renamed as the Edward Koch Bridge, after a dead mayor. But you now have no idea that it connects Queens with Manhattan. The Triboro Bridge is now the Robert Kenenedy Bridge, named after a dead senator, obscuring it's connecting of Queens, Manhattan and the Bronx. The Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel seems clear enough in what parts of New York it connects. But renamed the Hugh Carey Tunnel, after a dead governor, it has lost all geographical clarity. And many New Yorkers refuse to use these new names because they are confusing and weren't asked for by anything like a majority of people. There was no groundswell for Hugh Carey to be memorialized, and Ed Koch was a very controversial mayor, detested as much as he was loved.

    • @mostmost1
      @mostmost1 Рік тому

      We will all be dead one day and the old folks who romanticize these names.

    • @blacksunshine1089
      @blacksunshine1089 Рік тому

      I feel there’s far too many people these days who thrive on annoying the masses by constantly looking for ways to stir the hornets nest by creating controversies and confusion whenever possible.

  • @vickycamarena4697
    @vickycamarena4697 Рік тому +18

    Like you, I'm so used to calling it Lake Shore Dr., as I will alway call the Sears Tower, the Sear Tower not Willis tower. But I do think we should definitely honor J. B. DuSable. Perhaps we should rename Grant Pk to DuSable Park, because no one thinks of President Grant when they think of the Park. lol

    • @katieandkevinsears7724
      @katieandkevinsears7724 Рік тому +3

      Maybe they could change the name of Jackson Park instead. If it was named after Andrew Jackson, they'd be renaming it for someone who actually had good relations with the natives.

    • @mikew9999
      @mikew9999 Рік тому +1

      There is a bust of him by the Apple Store on Pioneer Court, and an entire bridge named after him, as well as myriad other institutions, including a high school and a museum. He has quite enough recognition. But LSD will always be LSD.

  • @fridi105
    @fridi105 Рік тому +1

    This reminds me of in New York City when they renamed the Battery Tunnel and the Triboro bridge and no one paid attention

  • @Bozakky
    @Bozakky Місяць тому

    Lake Shore Drive will always be Lake Shore Drive.❤

  • @justjenny5437
    @justjenny5437 Рік тому +13

    My BF is from Chicago and I visit him regularly….I’m starting to annoy him with all the history I’ve learned from this channel lol

  • @dotter702
    @dotter702 Рік тому +4

    I'll always think of Lake Shore drive as the highway across which they hauled a German U-boat from the shore of Lake Michigan to the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. As names go, they can be oficially determined by politics, but the people will still call them what they want to.

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 Рік тому +2

      I've toured that u-boat in the museum, along with the mock coal mine. The Museum of Science and Industry is my fav place on Earth. It's like a city within a city.

  • @itsnicholas1526
    @itsnicholas1526 8 місяців тому +1

    here is to hoping it gets repurposed within my lifetime! eliminating all car access would be ideal. Everyone talks about how amazing the Chicago shoreline is without mention of the monstrosity that sits atop of it, resulting in much of it as hard to access. I would have hoped that you would have mention the interest in redesigning what it looks like in the future, considering the growing conversation.

  • @rickieg9870
    @rickieg9870 Рік тому +45

    Fun fact. Friends of the park is the reason Chicago doesn’t have the Star Wars museum, instead LA does now. They chose to protect a Soldier Field parking lot instead of bringing in a world class, unique museum that would attract tourists from all over the planet.

    • @realShadowKat
      @realShadowKat Рік тому +13

      To be fair, they live up to their name... Friends of the Park, not friends of the city, friends of tourism, friends of the chamber of commerce.
      And now look, one of the famous tenants of Soldier Field is going to be moving. But at least we have that parking lot.

    • @cubist12
      @cubist12 Рік тому +2

      Good thing they protected that parking lot. Maybe Lucas will consider a second museum in Arlington Heights...

    • @portapotty69
      @portapotty69 Рік тому +3

      ​@@cubist12 nah, Lucas was completely turned off by the whole ordeal. I forgot all about how pissed I was at the time. What a bonehead move

    • @jacklewis5452
      @jacklewis5452 Рік тому +3

      @@cubist12 --I am all for that! Perhaps the White Sox will move to Arlington Heights too.

    • @TheDapperLynx
      @TheDapperLynx Рік тому +4

      Friends of the Parking Lot.

  • @charlesdarwin7253
    @charlesdarwin7253 Рік тому +3

    Toronto's Lake Shore Drive is very similar. It's coincidentally also on the shore of a lake.

    • @realShadowKat
      @realShadowKat Рік тому

      I've been to Toronto. Always called it a cleaner version of Chicago at a 90 degree angle since the lake is the southern edge of the city 🤣

    • @charlesdarwin7253
      @charlesdarwin7253 Рік тому

      @@realShadowKat And the real estate market is in the opposite trajectory!

    • @BGTuyau
      @BGTuyau 10 місяців тому

      n b.: In Toronto, it's Lake Shore Boulevard, not ~ Drive

  • @JeffY-y3z
    @JeffY-y3z 7 місяців тому +1

    Both my father and my grandfather worked on/built the Lake Shore Drive.....it will always be the Lake Shore Drive.

  • @jeffking4176
    @jeffking4176 Рік тому

    ALIOTTA, HAINES & JEREMIAH ‼️
    Now, back when I was growing up in St.Louis Missouri, I often listened to WLS, WBBM, WAIT, and other AM stations. I often heard traffic reports, calling it “The L.S.D”., as well as Lake Shore Drive.
    The song was mostly banned by all but a handful of radio stations. In St.Louis, the only stations were KSHE-95, and KWUR - the latter being the Washington University station.
    Most take a “ dual” meaning interpretation, but it’s a very cool song.
    📻🙂

  • @michellebrown7714
    @michellebrown7714 Рік тому +1

    uhhhh, wrigley is NOT that close to lakeshore, its about a mile or so from it at 1060 west addison. i think you meant soldier field and thats waaay further south than northalstead, its in the Museum Campus area of Grant Park

  • @leahcimthgirw3163
    @leahcimthgirw3163 Рік тому +1

    Lakeshore Drive will always be Lakeshore Drive to me same as the Sears Tower and the Rosemont Horizon

  • @_Wunder
    @_Wunder Рік тому

    Ryan you rock!

  • @Steven_Williams
    @Steven_Williams Рік тому +1

    I've lived in Chicago all my life and presently four blocks from LSD. It is still Lake Shore Drive to me.

  • @innervisions100
    @innervisions100 2 місяці тому

    While I appreciate the gesture, I'll always call it LSD. Been doing so all my 40 years. I was born and raised on the Southside but now live in Edgewater. LSD has been my main thoroughfare all my life and I still never get tired of how beautiful it is.

  • @Jpkjr52
    @Jpkjr52 Рік тому

    Thanks again John in Chicago

  • @JD-bs4xy
    @JD-bs4xy Рік тому

    10:56
    Du Sablé was born in Haiti! 🇭🇹
    Why you left that part out?

  • @ronaldschoolcraft8654
    @ronaldschoolcraft8654 Рік тому

    My Grandma, born in 1906, said that WPA stood for We Piddle Around.

  • @michaelstovall23
    @michaelstovall23 6 місяців тому

    DuSable Lake Shore Drive was just voted one of the best sreets in the world.

  • @jeffking4176
    @jeffking4176 Рік тому +2

    On changing the name. It’s so iconic, that I’m afraid a change would be very confusing, especially for semi-frequent visitors.
    They should rename a PARK after him.
    [ Not actually being from Chicago, I guess it’s my 1/2 Cent worth]
    I can’t imagine re-naming St.Louis’ “FORREST PARK”, “Liguest Park .
    📻🙂

    • @psheridan272
      @psheridan272 Рік тому +1

      There are many things named after him in the city.

  • @DirtyMac5151
    @DirtyMac5151 Рік тому +3

    ALWAYS & FOREVER Lake Shore Drive! It should be law, just like no ketchup on a hotdog!

  • @GordonWLearn
    @GordonWLearn Рік тому +2

    Grew up in Oak Park, so did my father. Dusable is appreciated. We lifetime residents object to everything Lori Lightfoot did to our city. Now with another destructive force as mayor, I object to Further destructive policies pushed on this city. As was pointed out LSD will always be LSD; Sears Tower will always be Sears Tower.

    • @anuday2022
      @anuday2022 Рік тому

      If you grew up in Oak Park, then Chicago is not your city! so don’t worry about what goes on in Chicago! And Lori, Lightfoot didn’t do anything different than anybody else that’s been mayor of Chicago!

  • @markkramer487
    @markkramer487 Рік тому +1

    As a guy who remembers the song most of us considered the song about lake shore drive to be about lake shore drive, the name LSD WAS MORE OF a Second thought .

  • @robertpreston2220
    @robertpreston2220 Рік тому +1

    Lake Shore Drive just like the song says!

  • @tmsmqwx
    @tmsmqwx 4 місяці тому

    The re-naming accomplishes its goal - honoring one of the area's founders. Nothing will change, everyone will still call it Lake Shore Drive. No harm, no foul.

  • @dereksupernaut
    @dereksupernaut Рік тому

    in 2004-2005 i used to drive LSD around 4am on the weekends coming home from Smartbar near Wrigly Field, i would smoke pot and listening to my house mixes and the road would be empty... the waves crashing against the shore in the winter is creepy when you are driving 40+mph with curves... fax!!!

  • @plisskenationbackfromthede3657

    I have heard that lsd was intended for leisurely drives only, and that is technically illegal for trucks (even pickups) to drive on it

    • @eric_has_no_idea
      @eric_has_no_idea Рік тому +2

      Yep, trucks and b-class plates are not allowed. It's not heavily enforced, but you will never see a semi on it.

    • @plisskenationbackfromthede3657
      @plisskenationbackfromthede3657 Рік тому +2

      @@eric_has_no_idea i never have, and i never noticed noticed until a buddy with an old 60s chevy pickup told me about it and how he should be exempt lol

    • @mannyfrencha5736
      @mannyfrencha5736 Рік тому +1

      ​@@eric_has_no_idea you'll see semi's on it from time to time, when drivers get lost. Growing up in the late 80's, we could walk to the 31st street beach area, and spending summers in the area, you'd get an occasional truck driver lost.
      The 31st street exit could be high traffic for semi's for different events held at McCormick

    • @eric_has_no_idea
      @eric_has_no_idea Рік тому

      @@plisskenationbackfromthede3657
      His truck would be a personal or Antique plates, he is fine.
      @Manny Frencha - it happens, but leaving McCormick, there are like a million signs. The main docks are on a lower level, not sure how they would even get up to LSD. I haven't worked an event there in like 15yrs though.
      Also, eastbound on the Stevenson there are lots of signs to get off it a few blocks West.

    • @mannyfrencha5736
      @mannyfrencha5736 Рік тому

      @@eric_has_no_idea true, there would be signs, but, drivers would occasionally get lost. I stayed by King Dr. and every now and then you'd have trucks come RUMBLIN by. Geez, the vibration was crazy😳

  • @johnnicpon5783
    @johnnicpon5783 Рік тому +1

    DuSable already had a school, a museum, a park, a harbor and a bridge named after him. So how much is enough?

  • @ChrisLarsen760
    @ChrisLarsen760 Рік тому +1

    GPS calls if DuSable now. Anyways - you look familiar, did you grow up in the Northbrook/Glenview/Des Plaines area?

  • @robbylock1741
    @robbylock1741 Рік тому +6

    Yay you must really be from Illinois, pronouncing it as Illinoi (NO S!!!!) Keep more content coming :)

    • @VideoDotGoogleDotCom
      @VideoDotGoogleDotCom Рік тому +2

      I've never heard _anyone_ pronounce it with an S. Is that a thing over there?

    • @robbylock1741
      @robbylock1741 Рік тому +2

      @@VideoDotGoogleDotCom People from out of state all seem to want to pronounce it Ill-in-noise, with a hard "S" on the end, makes me cringe every time! No one from here in Chicago or even downstate says it that way!