I’m annoyed with both Congress and LSD. I’m all for naming things after Ida B. Wells and DuSable. I’m also for renaming some streets. Balbo and Columbus come to mind. Upper and Lower Wacker could use some clarification separate naming conventions may help. But the executions with Congress and LSD were terrible. It’s confusing because both roadways revert to their old naming outside of the downtown area
What we Chicagoans SHOULD rename, is all the buildings and institutions that bear Richard J Daley's name. That man, nor his son, does not deserve to be honored.
One more LSD story! At one time the North/South lanes were separated by a standard Jersey Wall. The City decided it wasn't wasting enough money, so they beautified LSD. If you look at the pictures in the video, you'll see the later ones have a green divider between the lanes. The City spent millions and built a 6 foot (or so) wide divider, filled it with dirt, planted flowers and grass and trees. Then came the Groundhog Day Blizzard of 2011. The new divider not only made the middle of LSD beautiful, but it also prevented snow plows and tow trucks from quickly clearing the Northbound lanes if cars blocked the road. Hundreds of cars got stuck because no one could move. LSD was closed until the next morning. They later had to spend even more money creating openings in their beautiful median for access to the Northbound lanes should heavy snow ever fall in Chicago again...
What are your thoughts about removing this noisy, dirty, and dangerous highway and restoring the lakefront as a public park. Although the posted speed limit is 40 MPH, most drivers routinely drive much faster. Access to the lakefront beaches is greatly hampered by the presence of this monstrosity. Removing DuSable Drive would improve the health of thousands of residents and visitors.
It will always be Lake Shore Crawford Ave in Chicago, Sears Tower, Standard Oil Building, Rosemont Horizon, Sears Centre arena in Hoffmann Estates and the Northwest Tollway
It's a very common mistake, but that was not the Edgewater Beach Hotel. It was the Edgewater Beach Apartments, which was a part of the hotel's campus. The hotel consisted of 2 buildings just to the south of apartments and were torn down in 1971 after the hotel went out of business in 1967. Losing their beach front in 1957 when the drive got extended to Hollywood and separated them from the beach, probably didn't help their business.
I never change the names of places I have always known as one name. Sears Tower is Sears Tower. Comiskey Park Is Comiskey park. Lake Shore Drive will always be Lake Shore Drive. Great video.
It will always be Lake Shore Drive to me. I grew up in the area in the 1960s, and a fun family outing used to be to drive down Sheridan to get onto Lake Shore Drive at the north end, drive all the way down south and go to the Museum of Science and Industry (loved that place!). I remember the S curve when it was still a bit hairy to drive. I hear it's been smoothed out a bit since those days. It's a lovely drive, even in traffic.
I crashed in the corner just out of frame going southbound. That sucked lol. That second corner in the S tightens up real quick and is often wet even if its not raining, so be careful lol. RIP little jetta. Thats how i found lower lower lower wacker drive, trying to find where they took my car lol
'Lake Shore Drive', 'SEARS Tower', forever!! (no one calls it "Willis Tower") ZERO!!! I don't accept nor use corporate names of various parks, stadiums etc.
I live a block from Lake Shore Drive and it is now signed "John Baptiste Point DuSable Lake Shore Drive". Nobody is going to call it this. The name is too ridiculously long. If it's too long to say, it's too long to use. The Michigan Ave Bridge was renamed the DuSable Bridge in 2010 and I have never heard anyone call it that. People say "Michigan Ave Bridge" because that is what it is, just like Lake Shore Drive. You're very unlikely to change a name that describes exactly what it is. I understand the desire to honor John Baptiste Point DuSable, but how does that tie in to who he is and what he represents? Instead of renaming something, why not create a unique and exciting space with that name for the purpose of memorializing him and what he represents? Lake Shore Drive will always be called Lake Shore Drive.
Well, nobody Calls King Dr., Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, which is the actual name of that street overtime Lakeshore Drive will just be called DuSable Drive
As a point of accuracy, the view near the end of the video is of the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), not the University of Chicago (UC). UC has a much more picturesque gothic campus, as opposed the to famously brutalist campus of UIC. Thanks for posting this visit to LSD!
Soundstage did a Chicago band reunion (Chase, Ides of March, etc.), and Aliotta, Haynes and Jeremiah was invited. They didn't even remember the song. They admitted they had to go out and buy the album so they could recreate the song for the show. It was called, "Cormestones of Rock: American Garage". It might actually be available someplace.... And LSD was always Lake Shore Drive, even before the drug, lol...
I took a drive on Lake Shore last September from Balbo to Sheridan. It was surpringly light on traffic that day, so it was a lovely trip from start to finish. Considering how developed Chicago is, it's nice to see the better part of the 8 mile stretch kept as park land.
@@luisreyes1963 Unfortunately, Balbo is still Balbo. The city leaders saw it fit to change Congress Pkwy, one of more important roads, to Ida B Wells Drive. I still have to think about it for a second when anyone or anything (i.e. GPS) mentions Ida Be Wells Drive. Congress Pkwy should have stayed as Congress Pkwy.
The campus photo shown near the end of your video was of the UIC East Campus, formerly known as the Chicago Circle Campus of the University of Illinois, once located at Navy Pier. The University of Chicago is west of DLSD, in Hyde Park, not far from the Museum of Science and Industry - which is clearly visible from the Drive.
Definitely, not a photo of the University of Chicago. UChicago looks more like something out of Harry Potter, with Gargoyles, limestone buildings, and the Midway Plaisance.
Socash is right. They could rename Lake Shore Drive to anything they want, but it will still be Lake Shore Drive, just like the Sears Tower is still the Sears Tower... 😁
Keep the name as it is, look at all the expenses and obligations to third parties to explain things two ways as not everyone knows the change of name.. it's like sponsored event venues, who cares if it's "X*X field" etc, it will always be "X*X" (name of team) stadium... Etc.
It was also once bantered about to make Lake Shore Drive a legit part of the interstate system as I-494. Honestly, glad that didn't happen. US41 was one of the few US routes that survived the great route purge in the Chicago city limits.
I’ve heard before that the Hoan Bridge in Milwaukee was built with the understanding that LSD/494 would eventually extend along the entire lakefront from Chicago to Milwaukee. Not sure how much truth there is to that, but the bridge doesn’t really connect to anything at the southern end so it’s definitely plausible.
Watching this got me thinking about another scenic roadway I'd like to know more about, which one can pick up at the northern terminus of LSD: Sheridan Road. When I have to travel to the northern suburbs, I'd much rather take the longer, lovelier route than the expressway. You get some lake, some parkland, lots of pretty houses, the Baha'i temple.
Since I didn't grow up in Chicago, I don't feel a strong connection to the name of the road, as long as I know what road the traffic and news reports are talking about. But you failed to mention one of my favorite views along the Drive: driving southbound from North Avenue to the sharp bend at Oak Street Beach, you see The Drake and the classic buildings adjacent to it, plus the newer buildings behind it, looming straight ahead. That view just screams Old Chicago to me.
Its always LSD to me just like Ida B. Wells is Congress Pkwy. I don't mind the name changes but this was straight up just forcing these name changed for the sake of BLMs intentions. Plus the good thing about the name change is this shuts up friends of the Park and Lincoln Park residents because alike two peas in a pod are the worst NIMBYs of Chicago when it comes to trying to fix LSD. The good thing for the name change is that it solidifies the chances that LSD won't be removed in the idea that people especially those politically agreeing to the ignoramus ideas of our current DOT sec'y in Washington that roads and bridges are racist when Lincoln Park is 90 percent White and most make over 150k or more a year complain that LSD is an eyesore to whay they claim is their lakeshore property when the Shore is for everyone not just the NIMBY crowds I don't think anyone who drives from other parts of Chicago the burbs or outta town outta state think LSD is the problem in fact its a godsend to have a road like this in the area making it more direct to the people outside as well as inside the city. On top of that rhe extensions northward when they extended the beaches they had to build the road in its expressway form even before the intesions of urban expressway building because at the time it was to connect the northern burbs to the city even after 70 years that the last connection to Hollywood was completed they still wanted to extend north beyond Hollywood still to this day its still in talks.
The"Cowsills" or possibly the "Partridge Family" also had a hit about Lakeshore Drive in the late sixties or seventies. I'll do my best with part of the lyrics..."You take a trip down Lakeshore Drive 'til you're out of the city."..(and so on). Maybe other people can remember the rest of the lyrics, better than I can. It really is a culturally iconic road. Good luck to the supporters of this retention of the original and more recognizable name. I think people would appreciate a local icon, retaining its name. that's so familiar.
I'll always think of Lake Shore drive as the highway across which they hauled a German U-boat from the shore of Lake Michigan to the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. As names go, they can be oficially determined by politics, but the people will still call them what they want to.
I've toured that u-boat in the museum, along with the mock coal mine. The Museum of Science and Industry is my fav place on Earth. It's like a city within a city.
Fun fact. Friends of the park is the reason Chicago doesn’t have the Star Wars museum, instead LA does now. They chose to protect a Soldier Field parking lot instead of bringing in a world class, unique museum that would attract tourists from all over the planet.
To be fair, they live up to their name... Friends of the Park, not friends of the city, friends of tourism, friends of the chamber of commerce. And now look, one of the famous tenants of Soldier Field is going to be moving. But at least we have that parking lot.
Correct! But University Of Chicago isn't on the lake either. It's a mile inland directly West of the Museum of Science and Industry, which is the building he shows when he talks about the Golden Statue, lol. (at 15:48.) I guess if you can call Wrigley Field by the lake, then the UoC is by the lake... 😁
It's completely a political renaming. Just like the Cleveland baseball team changing its name. And of course someone with my last name will always refer to the tower as Sears Tower.
The S-Curve construction was completed in late 1986, and was an effing nightmare for two years, lol... Both directions of LSD were moved to the West side of Soldier Field in the mid-90's, and was even worse, since that's where I-55 junctions with LSD...
So when the limited access ends at 71st street it begins again at 79th street and continues through what use to be U.S.Steel South Works campus south of Rainbow Beach, why no mention all the way to 95th Street? Farther south it becomes Indianapolis through Burns Harbor and on down past the Gary-Chicago Airport. It's a beautiful set of roads all the way through Gary Indiana.
Being honest here, but I know it changes from "South Lake Shore Dr" to "South South Shore Drive" (yes two "Souths") but I don't know where the demarcation of that formally is -- I think in the Marquette/67th area. Also somewhere in the mid 2010s they realigned South Shore/US41 eastward in the south 70th's to remove congestion in the neighborhood, so it's not on the original alignment anymore either.
There are pedestrian underpasses that go under the drive allowing you to cross. there are a few elevated ones but predominantly underpasses. Unfortunately many of them are not very inviting and look like something out of a horror movie. This was back in the mid twenty tens though.
DuSable lived along the river for just 7 years (1793-1800) after which he left forever. The town of Chicago with just 200 residents was founded 33 years after he left.
@15:33 you describe the “University of Chicago” however you have a view of the “university of illinois-Chicago (uic)” two very different campuses. What was the intent? U of C or UIC?
Lusy in the Sky with Diamonds was also a song about LSD... Or so they said around the same period.Loved this drive if the traffic isn't piled up which it usually is.And like Sears Tower this will always be Lake Shore Drive. Especially if you are an Illinoian.
No, "Lucy" was written by Lennon-McCartney a a result of Julian Lennon coming home from school with a drawing of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", his teacher. "And the Lucy of the title? Her name was Lucy O’Donnell, and she attended Heath House, a private Weybridge nursery school, with Julian Lennon. She didn’t realize she had been immortalized in a Beatles song until she was 13, in 1976."
@@fortress1133 No, no drugs, just an abbreviation of a road name. Cannot count the Friday nights we spent at the Briar and Broadway coffee houses until midnight and then making the run down LSD to the bars in Old Town. Then about 4 am we headed back north to our Bryn Mawr apartment near Edgewater. Wonder what that $100 a month apartment goes for today?
@@denali9449 I remember the drive well! I lived in IL all my life until 3 years ago. I need to pay a visit. I'm on Long Island now and that apartment would go for $3,000 a mo here if it's a 1BR 1BA!
New York City has renamed a bunch of bridges and tunnels lately, and it's not led to clarity. The Queensboro Bridge was renamed as the Edward Koch Bridge, after a dead mayor. But you now have no idea that it connects Queens with Manhattan. The Triboro Bridge is now the Robert Kenenedy Bridge, named after a dead senator, obscuring it's connecting of Queens, Manhattan and the Bronx. The Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel seems clear enough in what parts of New York it connects. But renamed the Hugh Carey Tunnel, after a dead governor, it has lost all geographical clarity. And many New Yorkers refuse to use these new names because they are confusing and weren't asked for by anything like a majority of people. There was no groundswell for Hugh Carey to be memorialized, and Ed Koch was a very controversial mayor, detested as much as he was loved.
I feel there’s far too many people these days who thrive on annoying the masses by constantly looking for ways to stir the hornets nest by creating controversies and confusion whenever possible.
I have been out of the chagaoland for 20 years. Lived there for my first 20. It will always be lakeshore drive. The sears tower. And the east west tollway. I cannot get my head around calling it the Ronald Regan.
I used to drive the Lake Shore Drive (outer drive) as a teenager. They used to have curbs that they could raise and lower to allow for the changing of direction of some of the lanes to increase north or southbound lanes for rush hour. I thought that should have been mentioned in your review.
we were on a school field trip in the 50s in the icy winter, the was an accident in front of us, and then the curbs came up under our bus, and our bus was stuck there for a longtime I will never forget it.
From what I remember being told by a professor of Chicago history at Northwestern University DuSable settled near todays Pioneer Court, next door to the Tribune Tower on the Chicago River. This is now about 5-6 blocks from the lake. Chicago is a beautiful city.
He fails to mention that at one time LSD was supposed to go further North from Hollywood Blvd. It was so expected, that Loyola University (by Devon Avenue) and Northwestern University (in Evanston) both faced buildings toward Lake Michigan in anticipation of the road being built further North, and having the buildings facing the Drive. Since then, both Universities have been building buildings that face the local streets.
@@famousmoji Me, lol. Lived in the area for over 60 years, I've been on both campuses and have seen the buildings, and was confirmed by the people on campus. If you also look North from where LSD turns into Hollywood, you can clearly see where the road was going to go. There are no beaches, and nothing extends into the water. You can probably find a source, but a lot of information before the internet is hard to find...
I remember they were taking about extending lake shore drive past Hollywood exit. I think they were considering a bridge on the lake being it wasn’t available land to do it on past Hollywood but unfortunately people didn’t like the idea of a bridge roadway out in front of there beaches. I use to live in edge water and Rogers park.
*HI RYAN!!* I've never noticed a video on this on your channel so I want to propose covering the Brewster Apartments at Diversey Harbor .. History, imposing architecture, glass block hallways, cage elevator, subdivided yet I scored a studio there when I was a student. I simply loved running along Lake Shore Drive and through Lincoln Park. Chicago Was my 1st American city during my undergrad uni days and I loved the history and many distinct and vibrant neighborhoods.I Great coverage on the history but to me it will always be LSD, Sears Tower we'll always be the Sears Tower and yes, even Soldier Field remains Soldier Field in my heart.
BRAVO! Its Lake Shore Drive or LSD It's Sears Tower It's Buckingham Fountain etc.... You can't just change the names of stuff. Go slap the name on something that isn't named yet... Give it its own identity. It's own attraction and its own following. Yes, we love history and we love DuSable but why did Chicago have to go and pin his name to LSD and screw it up? Thats my opinion!! Thanks for another great episode! Love your channel! DD☮
here is to hoping it gets repurposed within my lifetime! eliminating all car access would be ideal. Everyone talks about how amazing the Chicago shoreline is without mention of the monstrosity that sits atop of it, resulting in much of it as hard to access. I would have hoped that you would have mention the interest in redesigning what it looks like in the future, considering the growing conversation.
When I left Chicago, it WAS Sears, LSD, and so on...I have always introduced it as such since then, and always will...I watched the Sears tower go up, floor by floor...great stuff
We lived at 3800 N. LSD in the late 70s into the 80s. Absolutely amazing view, but the 1928 building didn’t cover the noise from Lake Shore Drive much, so that was something to get used to. Edit: corrected the direction and removed the Cubs comment thanks to DMs. My goodness, folks need to chill.
The DuSable name was already on Chicago icons such as parks bridges. The woksters also renamed Congress Parkway for Ida B Wells who also has many icons with her name. I wonder what will be renamed for mayor Beetlejuice? 🙄
It will always be Lake Shore Drive no matter the name they attempt to put on it, just like the Sears Tower is still the Sears Tower even though its been the Willis Tower for 15+ years. Or Comiskey Park vs Guaranteed Rate Field.
Didnt even know they renamed LSD till a little over a year ago lmao. I still call everything by their original names especially if there isnt a good reason to rename it.
uhhhh, wrigley is NOT that close to lakeshore, its about a mile or so from it at 1060 west addison. i think you meant soldier field and thats waaay further south than northalstead, its in the Museum Campus area of Grant Park
The building you referred to as the Edgewater Beach Hotel is actually the Edgewater Beach Apartments. The Edgewater Beach Hotel was taller and more grand. It was torn down around 1967
I always call places and things by their original names or at least the names I knew them by. I traveled to Burma (Myanmar) and visited Rangoon (Yangon) and always called them by what I feel is their proper original names. When I went to Vietnam I visited several cities, including Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City), again it's Saigon to me. Jean Baptiste Point DuSable sounds like he deserves some recognition, perhaps erect a statue close to the location where he lived, maybe even open an information center at that same location for people to visit and learn more about him. I don't see how renaming part of a road does anything to honor the man or teach people who he was and his place in history.
Same here, I call the western half of the US the Mexican Empire and the French Territory. Likewise the east coast Spanish Territory and British Territory.
There are hundreds of streets in Chicago named after people and as a kid it was cool learning this and then learning who those people were and why they got a street named after them. Or a neighborhood. So I can imagine how 10 years from now a kid's curiosity is sparked and they get to learn who DuSable was. And how rich and deep Chicago's history is. All because they asked who is this DuSable person this street is named after.
Like you, I'm so used to calling it Lake Shore Dr., as I will alway call the Sears Tower, the Sear Tower not Willis tower. But I do think we should definitely honor J. B. DuSable. Perhaps we should rename Grant Pk to DuSable Park, because no one thinks of President Grant when they think of the Park. lol
Maybe they could change the name of Jackson Park instead. If it was named after Andrew Jackson, they'd be renaming it for someone who actually had good relations with the natives.
There is a bust of him by the Apple Store on Pioneer Court, and an entire bridge named after him, as well as myriad other institutions, including a high school and a museum. He has quite enough recognition. But LSD will always be LSD.
On changing the name. It’s so iconic, that I’m afraid a change would be very confusing, especially for semi-frequent visitors. They should rename a PARK after him. [ Not actually being from Chicago, I guess it’s my 1/2 Cent worth] I can’t imagine re-naming St.Louis’ “FORREST PARK”, “Liguest Park . 📻🙂
4:05 is Lake Shore Drive Hotel. Defunct now, my grandfather was the GM of it for over 30 years. ^_^ Fun fact. I own a TON of items from it and keep them in climate controlled storage. Most things I have from 181 Lake Shore are from between 1928-1955. Today, it is known as The Mayfair Condos.
Another great video. Very interesting and informative. I loved it. Your final picture of the Museum of Science and Industry was not even mentioned. Wat a great place to visit.
Ryan, I agree with you wholeheartedly. LSD it will always be. Sears Tower that same thing. Thank you for all these videos. I have lived here all my life and still learn things from your videos. Keep up the great work.
@@VideoDotGoogleDotCom People from out of state all seem to want to pronounce it Ill-in-noise, with a hard "S" on the end, makes me cringe every time! No one from here in Chicago or even downstate says it that way!
Chicagoans do not accept new names. It's Sears Tower, Comiskey Park, Marshall Fields, and Lake Shore Drive...
I’m annoyed with both Congress and LSD. I’m all for naming things after Ida B. Wells and DuSable. I’m also for renaming some streets. Balbo and Columbus come to mind. Upper and Lower Wacker could use some clarification separate naming conventions may help. But the executions with Congress and LSD were terrible. It’s confusing because both roadways revert to their old naming outside of the downtown area
60647 here. Born raised and will probably die a 47. I 100% agree. No new names for me. I still use the old names
What we Chicagoans SHOULD rename, is all the buildings and institutions that bear Richard J Daley's name. That man, nor his son, does not deserve to be honored.
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Times change people change Either you evolve or you get left behind
One more LSD story! At one time the North/South lanes were separated by a standard Jersey Wall.
The City decided it wasn't wasting enough money, so they beautified LSD. If you look at the pictures in the video, you'll see the later ones have a green divider between the lanes. The City spent millions and built a 6 foot (or so) wide divider, filled it with dirt, planted flowers and grass and trees.
Then came the Groundhog Day Blizzard of 2011. The new divider not only made the middle of LSD beautiful, but it also prevented snow plows and tow trucks from quickly clearing the Northbound lanes if cars blocked the road. Hundreds of cars got stuck because no one could move. LSD was closed until the next morning.
They later had to spend even more money creating openings in their beautiful median for access to the Northbound lanes should heavy snow ever fall in Chicago again...
They clearly didn't think it through
What are your thoughts about removing this noisy, dirty, and dangerous highway and restoring the lakefront as a public park. Although the posted speed limit is 40 MPH, most drivers routinely drive much faster. Access to the lakefront beaches is greatly hampered by the presence of this monstrosity. Removing DuSable Drive would improve the health of thousands of residents and visitors.
No it’s not! ithey have bridges over Lake shore Drive and tunnels underneath it. People are ridiculous!
@@anuday2022 but why should people be relegated to take a detour to get to the beach. Seems unfair to me
It will always be Lake Shore Drive to us
Just like the Sears Tower, I'll never call it the whatever they renamed it oh yeah Willis Tower, which Just reminds me of Bruce Willis.
Seriously, the road, the song, the city, all iconic! Couldn't they just rename a less famous stretch of asphalt?
It will always be Lake Shore Crawford Ave in Chicago, Sears Tower, Standard Oil Building, Rosemont Horizon, Sears Centre arena in Hoffmann Estates and the Northwest Tollway
@@johnbaker215 The John Hancock
Yeah fr man
It's a very common mistake, but that was not the Edgewater Beach Hotel. It was the Edgewater Beach Apartments, which was a part of the hotel's campus. The hotel consisted of 2 buildings just to the south of apartments and were torn down in 1971 after the hotel went out of business in 1967. Losing their beach front in 1957 when the drive got extended to Hollywood and separated them from the beach, probably didn't help their business.
Came here to say the same ☺️
Went to the White Formal there junior year in high school, lovely fancy place in 1967. My parents went to a lot of events there too.
I never change the names of places I have always known as one name. Sears Tower is Sears Tower. Comiskey Park Is Comiskey park. Lake Shore Drive will always be Lake Shore Drive.
Great video.
Chicago changes everything or either sell it to someone else to change.
Don't forget they changed John Hancock's name as well.
I'll be deep in the ground before I call the sears tower anything else...
It will always be Lake Shore Drive to me. I grew up in the area in the 1960s, and a fun family outing used to be to drive down Sheridan to get onto Lake Shore Drive at the north end, drive all the way down south and go to the Museum of Science and Industry (loved that place!). I remember the S curve when it was still a bit hairy to drive. I hear it's been smoothed out a bit since those days. It's a lovely drive, even in traffic.
It's still called Lake Shore Drive.
I crashed in the corner just out of frame going southbound. That sucked lol. That second corner in the S tightens up real quick and is often wet even if its not raining, so be careful lol. RIP little jetta. Thats how i found lower lower lower wacker drive, trying to find where they took my car lol
'Lake Shore Drive',
'SEARS Tower', forever!! (no one calls it "Willis Tower") ZERO!!!
I don't accept nor use corporate names of various parks, stadiums etc.
I call it the Sears tower also but you do realize Sears is. Strike that. Was a corporation and therefore a corporate name.
LSD doesn’t end at the at the MSI, it’s ends near 67th Jeffery.
exactly
I live a block from Lake Shore Drive and it is now signed "John Baptiste Point DuSable Lake Shore Drive". Nobody is going to call it this. The name is too ridiculously long. If it's too long to say, it's too long to use. The Michigan Ave Bridge was renamed the DuSable Bridge in 2010 and I have never heard anyone call it that. People say "Michigan Ave Bridge" because that is what it is, just like Lake Shore Drive. You're very unlikely to change a name that describes exactly what it is. I understand the desire to honor John Baptiste Point DuSable, but how does that tie in to who he is and what he represents? Instead of renaming something, why not create a unique and exciting space with that name for the purpose of memorializing him and what he represents? Lake Shore Drive will always be called Lake Shore Drive.
Well, nobody Calls King Dr., Martin Luther King Jr. Drive, which is the actual name of that street overtime Lakeshore Drive will just be called DuSable Drive
I wonder what Chicago icons will be renamed for mayor Beetlejuice by the woksters? 🤔
doubt
The goal is to erase history. That's why they are all for removing statues and renaming things
@@anuday2022No, they call it DuSable Lake Shore Dr.
Lake Shore drive was once know as "Outer Drive"
That's actually because there's an "Inner" Lake Shore Drive. If there's a place with a "Lake Shore Dr." address, it's on the inner drive.
Exactly. The terms "Inner Drive" abd "Outer Drive" are still used in that context.
The worst thing you can do to someone is name a piece of traffic after them such as the Jane Byrne interexchabge
As a point of accuracy, the view near the end of the video is of the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), not the University of Chicago (UC). UC has a much more picturesque gothic campus, as opposed the to famously brutalist campus of UIC. Thanks for posting this visit to LSD!
Came here to say this!
Love the Chicago content man. Keep it coming!!!
Soundstage did a Chicago band reunion (Chase, Ides of March, etc.), and Aliotta, Haynes and Jeremiah was invited. They didn't even remember the song. They admitted they had to go out and buy the album so they could recreate the song for the show.
It was called, "Cormestones of Rock: American Garage". It might actually be available someplace....
And LSD was always Lake Shore Drive, even before the drug, lol...
I don’t doubt it but considering it was the song they’re known for (Snow Queen is pretty good too) the drugs must’ve been good😂
I left N. Rodgers park after graduating from Evanston hospital nursing school in 1981. I still remember the song!
He did not mention Museum Of Science And Industry. Also not mentioned when they removed the S curve!
I took a drive on Lake Shore last September from Balbo to Sheridan. It was surpringly light on traffic that day, so it was a lovely trip from start to finish. Considering how developed Chicago is, it's nice to see the better part of the 8 mile stretch kept as park land.
My favorite times to drive on Lake Shore Drive are either direction on a clear day or into the Loop from the North Side on a clear night.
Now that’s something we should rename. Balbo was a Facist
Except, of course, for the 8 lane highway running through it 🫤
@@GregEagel It was renamed in 2022 to Ida B. Wells Road.
@@luisreyes1963 Unfortunately, Balbo is still Balbo. The city leaders saw it fit to change Congress Pkwy, one of more important roads, to Ida B Wells Drive. I still have to think about it for a second when anyone or anything (i.e. GPS) mentions Ida Be Wells Drive. Congress Pkwy should have stayed as Congress Pkwy.
The campus photo shown near the end of your video was of the UIC East Campus, formerly known as the Chicago Circle Campus of the University of Illinois, once located at Navy Pier. The University of Chicago is west of DLSD, in Hyde Park, not far from the Museum of Science and Industry - which is clearly visible from the Drive.
You are correct, I am a UIC graduate
Definitely, not a photo of the University of Chicago. UChicago looks more like something out of Harry Potter, with Gargoyles, limestone buildings, and the Midway Plaisance.
Socash is right. They could rename Lake Shore Drive to anything they want, but it will still be Lake Shore Drive, just like the Sears Tower is still the Sears Tower... 😁
It will always be lake shore drive it just have DuSable at the beginning now.
Keep the name as it is, look at all the expenses and obligations to third parties to explain things two ways as not everyone knows the change of name.. it's like sponsored event venues, who cares if it's "X*X field" etc, it will always be "X*X" (name of team) stadium... Etc.
It was also once bantered about to make Lake Shore Drive a legit part of the interstate system as I-494. Honestly, glad that didn't happen. US41 was one of the few US routes that survived the great route purge in the Chicago city limits.
I’ve heard before that the Hoan Bridge in Milwaukee was built with the understanding that LSD/494 would eventually extend along the entire lakefront from Chicago to Milwaukee. Not sure how much truth there is to that, but the bridge doesn’t really connect to anything at the southern end so it’s definitely plausible.
I once lived on US41 - in Florida. Tamiami Trail.
Watching this got me thinking about another scenic roadway I'd like to know more about, which one can pick up at the northern terminus of LSD: Sheridan Road. When I have to travel to the northern suburbs, I'd much rather take the longer, lovelier route than the expressway. You get some lake, some parkland, lots of pretty houses, the Baha'i temple.
Yes, Sheridan looks nice around the temple.
Since I didn't grow up in Chicago, I don't feel a strong connection to the name of the road, as long as I know what road the traffic and news reports are talking about. But you failed to mention one of my favorite views along the Drive: driving southbound from North Avenue to the sharp bend at Oak Street Beach, you see The Drake and the classic buildings adjacent to it, plus the newer buildings behind it, looming straight ahead. That view just screams Old Chicago to me.
I lived in this city and I don't really understand the emotional attachment to a building and road. I find it weird.
60653 here. Grew up in North Kenwood just a few blocks west LSD. It will forever and always be Lake Shore Drive!
Its always LSD to me just like Ida B. Wells is Congress Pkwy. I don't mind the name changes but this was straight up just forcing these name changed for the sake of BLMs intentions. Plus the good thing about the name change is this shuts up friends of the Park and Lincoln Park residents because alike two peas in a pod are the worst NIMBYs of Chicago when it comes to trying to fix LSD. The good thing for the name change is that it solidifies the chances that LSD won't be removed in the idea that people especially those politically agreeing to the ignoramus ideas of our current DOT sec'y in Washington that roads and bridges are racist when Lincoln Park is 90 percent White and most make over 150k or more a year complain that LSD is an eyesore to whay they claim is their lakeshore property when the Shore is for everyone not just the NIMBY crowds I don't think anyone who drives from other parts of Chicago the burbs or outta town outta state think LSD is the problem in fact its a godsend to have a road like this in the area making it more direct to the people outside as well as inside the city. On top of that rhe extensions northward when they extended the beaches they had to build the road in its expressway form even before the intesions of urban expressway building because at the time it was to connect the northern burbs to the city even after 70 years that the last connection to Hollywood was completed they still wanted to extend north beyond Hollywood still to this day its still in talks.
The"Cowsills" or possibly the "Partridge Family" also had a hit about Lakeshore Drive in the late sixties or seventies. I'll do my best with part of the lyrics..."You take a trip down Lakeshore Drive 'til you're out of the city."..(and so on). Maybe other people can remember the rest of the lyrics, better than I can. It really is a culturally iconic road. Good luck to the supporters of this retention of the original and more recognizable name. I think people would appreciate a local icon, retaining its name. that's so familiar.
I'll always think of Lake Shore drive as the highway across which they hauled a German U-boat from the shore of Lake Michigan to the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry. As names go, they can be oficially determined by politics, but the people will still call them what they want to.
I've toured that u-boat in the museum, along with the mock coal mine. The Museum of Science and Industry is my fav place on Earth. It's like a city within a city.
There’s already a park, a bridge, a harbor, a high school, and a museum named after DuSable. You’d think he was a US President… 🤡
Just waiting for all the complaints about potholes. Its Chicago tradition. ❤
Fun fact. Friends of the park is the reason Chicago doesn’t have the Star Wars museum, instead LA does now. They chose to protect a Soldier Field parking lot instead of bringing in a world class, unique museum that would attract tourists from all over the planet.
To be fair, they live up to their name... Friends of the Park, not friends of the city, friends of tourism, friends of the chamber of commerce.
And now look, one of the famous tenants of Soldier Field is going to be moving. But at least we have that parking lot.
Good thing they protected that parking lot. Maybe Lucas will consider a second museum in Arlington Heights...
@@cubist12 nah, Lucas was completely turned off by the whole ordeal. I forgot all about how pissed I was at the time. What a bonehead move
@@cubist12 --I am all for that! Perhaps the White Sox will move to Arlington Heights too.
Friends of the Parking Lot.
The picture you showed was of the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC) campus,not the University of Chicago campus, which is by the lake.
Correct! But University Of Chicago isn't on the lake either. It's a mile inland directly West of the Museum of Science and Industry, which is the building he shows when he talks about the Golden Statue, lol. (at 15:48.)
I guess if you can call Wrigley Field by the lake, then the UoC is by the lake... 😁
It's completely a political renaming. Just like the Cleveland baseball team changing its name. And of course someone with my last name will always refer to the tower as Sears Tower.
Didn't they change California Ave to Martin Luther King Drive?! ...way back ...before you were born?! Another great vid, Ryan!
What year did they fix the S curve and what year did they change the lanes to go around Soldier Field? Great vid! More please.....
The S-Curve construction was completed in late 1986, and was an effing nightmare for two years, lol...
Both directions of LSD were moved to the West side of Soldier Field in the mid-90's, and was even worse, since that's where I-55 junctions with LSD...
So when the limited access ends at 71st street it begins again at 79th street and continues through what use to be U.S.Steel South Works campus south of Rainbow Beach, why no mention all the way to 95th Street? Farther south it becomes Indianapolis through Burns Harbor and on down past the Gary-Chicago Airport. It's a beautiful set of roads all the way through Gary Indiana.
True, he made it seem like it stopped at the science and industry museum.
Being honest here, but I know it changes from "South Lake Shore Dr" to "South South Shore Drive" (yes two "Souths") but I don't know where the demarcation of that formally is -- I think in the Marquette/67th area.
Also somewhere in the mid 2010s they realigned South Shore/US41 eastward in the south 70th's to remove congestion in the neighborhood, so it's not on the original alignment anymore either.
@@realShadowKat people hate change but the world changes everyday, just evolve with it.
I've never been to Chicago but it is on my bucket list. How do people cross the Drive to get to the beach?
Underground tunnels!
There are pedestrian underpasses that go under the drive allowing you to cross. there are a few elevated ones but predominantly underpasses. Unfortunately many of them are not very inviting and look like something out of a horror movie. This was back in the mid twenty tens though.
It's better close to downtown and there is an easily accessible beach next to Navy Pier.
Pedestrian walk ways under the drive.
if you go i suggest you rent a tank!!! and they walk across on all the flying lead!!!
Die-versy? Lol😂 it's more duhversy
"And there aint no road just like it, anywhere I've found. running south on lake shore drive, heading into town"
DuSable lived along the river for just 7 years (1793-1800) after which he left forever. The town of Chicago with just 200 residents was founded 33 years after he left.
And your point? He established the settlement.
He "established" a tavern/trading post not a settlement. Feel free to conflate the two...you wouldn't be the first.
So he established the trading post on the very land that would become a settlement. Ok.
@@michaelstovall23If he was white, the road would not have been renamed. And his statue would be removed, not erected.
@michaelstovall23 he existed in the middle of nowhere for a while and then left for greener pastures. Hardly an achievement.
@15:33 you describe the “University of Chicago” however you have a view of the “university of illinois-Chicago (uic)” two very different campuses. What was the intent? U of C or UIC?
ALWAYS & FOREVER Lake Shore Drive! It should be law, just like no ketchup on a hotdog!
My BF is from Chicago and I visit him regularly….I’m starting to annoy him with all the history I’ve learned from this channel lol
Tell him your moving with him to Chicago. Lol
@@iwouldliketoorderanumber1b79 lol sorry he wants to move out of Chicago with me 😋
Lusy in the Sky with Diamonds was also a song about LSD... Or so they said around the same period.Loved this drive if the traffic isn't piled up which it usually is.And like Sears Tower this will always be Lake Shore Drive. Especially if you are an Illinoian.
No, "Lucy" was written by Lennon-McCartney a a result of Julian Lennon coming home from school with a drawing of "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds", his teacher. "And the Lucy of the title? Her name was Lucy O’Donnell, and she attended Heath House, a private Weybridge nursery school, with Julian Lennon. She didn’t realize she had been immortalized in a Beatles song until she was 13, in 1976."
@@denali9449 Exactly. That was my reference.and Lake Sore Drive was not written about LSD but the public saw it that way back then.
@@fortress1133 No, no drugs, just an abbreviation of a road name. Cannot count the Friday nights we spent at the Briar and Broadway coffee houses until midnight and then making the run down LSD to the bars in Old Town. Then about 4 am we headed back north to our Bryn Mawr apartment near Edgewater. Wonder what that $100 a month apartment goes for today?
@@denali9449 I remember the drive well! I lived in IL all my life until 3 years ago. I need to pay a visit. I'm on Long Island now and that apartment would go for $3,000 a mo here if it's a 1BR 1BA!
New York City has renamed a bunch of bridges and tunnels lately, and it's not led to clarity. The Queensboro Bridge was renamed as the Edward Koch Bridge, after a dead mayor. But you now have no idea that it connects Queens with Manhattan. The Triboro Bridge is now the Robert Kenenedy Bridge, named after a dead senator, obscuring it's connecting of Queens, Manhattan and the Bronx. The Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel seems clear enough in what parts of New York it connects. But renamed the Hugh Carey Tunnel, after a dead governor, it has lost all geographical clarity. And many New Yorkers refuse to use these new names because they are confusing and weren't asked for by anything like a majority of people. There was no groundswell for Hugh Carey to be memorialized, and Ed Koch was a very controversial mayor, detested as much as he was loved.
We will all be dead one day and the old folks who romanticize these names.
I feel there’s far too many people these days who thrive on annoying the masses by constantly looking for ways to stir the hornets nest by creating controversies and confusion whenever possible.
I have been out of the chagaoland for 20 years. Lived there for my first 20. It will always be lakeshore drive. The sears tower. And the east west tollway. I cannot get my head around calling it the Ronald Regan.
You forgot the single biggest change: removing the S-curve.
It will ALWAYS be LSD . Same as Sears Tower 😊
I used to drive the Lake Shore Drive (outer drive) as a teenager. They used to have curbs that they could raise and lower to allow for the changing of direction of some of the lanes to increase north or southbound lanes for rush hour. I thought that should have been mentioned in your review.
we were on a school field trip in the 50s in the icy winter, the was an accident in front of us, and then the curbs came up under our bus, and our bus was stuck there for a longtime I will never forget it.
From what I remember being told by a professor of Chicago history at Northwestern University DuSable settled near todays Pioneer Court, next door to the Tribune Tower on the Chicago River. This is now about 5-6 blocks from the lake. Chicago is a beautiful city.
Back then, the lake was a few blocks further inland. The coast was marsh / swamp. Many parts came to about Michigan Ave.
@@eric_has_no_idea --- You are correct, Michigan Avenue was the shoreline of Old Lake Michigan.
He fails to mention that at one time LSD was supposed to go further North from Hollywood Blvd. It was so expected, that Loyola University (by Devon Avenue) and Northwestern University (in Evanston) both faced buildings toward Lake Michigan in anticipation of the road being built further North, and having the buildings facing the Drive.
Since then, both Universities have been building buildings that face the local streets.
source?
@@famousmoji Me, lol. Lived in the area for over 60 years, I've been on both campuses and have seen the buildings, and was confirmed by the people on campus.
If you also look North from where LSD turns into Hollywood, you can clearly see where the road was going to go. There are no beaches, and nothing extends into the water.
You can probably find a source, but a lot of information before the internet is hard to find...
I remember they were taking about extending lake shore drive past Hollywood exit. I think they were considering a bridge on the lake being it wasn’t available land to do it on past Hollywood but unfortunately people didn’t like the idea of a bridge roadway out in front of there beaches. I use to live in edge water and Rogers park.
*HI RYAN!!* I've never noticed a video on this on your channel so I want to propose covering the Brewster Apartments at Diversey Harbor ..
History, imposing architecture, glass block hallways, cage elevator, subdivided yet I scored a studio there when I was a student. I simply loved running along Lake Shore Drive and through Lincoln Park.
Chicago Was my 1st American city during my undergrad uni days and I loved the history and many distinct and vibrant neighborhoods.I
Great coverage on the history but to me it will always be LSD, Sears Tower we'll always be the Sears Tower and yes, even Soldier Field remains Soldier Field in my heart.
George Floyd “incident”? Seriously? You can’t say “brutal murder by police”? Grow a pair.
BRAVO!
Its Lake Shore Drive or LSD
It's Sears Tower
It's Buckingham Fountain
etc....
You can't just change the names of stuff. Go slap the name on something that isn't named yet... Give it its own identity. It's own attraction and its own following. Yes, we love history and we love DuSable but why did Chicago have to go and pin his name to LSD and screw it up? Thats my opinion!!
Thanks for another great episode! Love your channel! DD☮
here is to hoping it gets repurposed within my lifetime! eliminating all car access would be ideal. Everyone talks about how amazing the Chicago shoreline is without mention of the monstrosity that sits atop of it, resulting in much of it as hard to access. I would have hoped that you would have mention the interest in redesigning what it looks like in the future, considering the growing conversation.
When I left Chicago, it WAS Sears, LSD, and so on...I have always introduced it as such since then, and always will...I watched the Sears tower go up, floor by floor...great stuff
How about Marshal Field/Macy's, Sears Tower, and Lake Shore Drive. I agree.
We lived at 3800 N. LSD in the late 70s into the 80s. Absolutely amazing view, but the 1928 building didn’t cover the noise from Lake Shore Drive much, so that was something to get used to. Edit: corrected the direction and removed the Cubs comment thanks to DMs. My goodness, folks need to chill.
Lake Shore Drive addresses are ONLY North, South, and East. There is no "West LSD".
You mean NORTH LSD,don't you?
Ha. Calm down, my goodness. We’ve got other folks comments to be concerned about in here 😆 yes, north.
Sadly the IMAX theater at Navy Pier closed during the pandemic. It's soon going to become the FlyOver Chicago ride.
Leave it at Lake Shore Dr. Find another way to honor DuSable. Great video.
The DuSable name was already on Chicago icons such as parks bridges. The woksters also renamed Congress Parkway for Ida B Wells who also has many icons with her name.
I wonder what will be renamed for mayor Beetlejuice? 🙄
Dude you show videos of University of Illinois Chicago. That the NOT same as University of Chicago. You should pull this down and correct.
It will always be Lake Shore Drive no matter the name they attempt to put on it, just like the Sears Tower is still the Sears Tower even though its been the Willis Tower for 15+ years. Or Comiskey Park vs Guaranteed Rate Field.
I love Chicago! I visit as often as I can. You mentioned the naming of lake shore dr. I have a bigger issue with the naming of the Willis Tower.
Why, if Willis bought the seers tower, they can rename it to Willis!
GPS calls if DuSable now. Anyways - you look familiar, did you grow up in the Northbrook/Glenview/Des Plaines area?
Didnt even know they renamed LSD till a little over a year ago lmao. I still call everything by their original names especially if there isnt a good reason to rename it.
uhhhh, wrigley is NOT that close to lakeshore, its about a mile or so from it at 1060 west addison. i think you meant soldier field and thats waaay further south than northalstead, its in the Museum Campus area of Grant Park
Yeah, yeah, yeah... Willis Tower would like to have a word with everyone about how renaming Chicago landmarks works out.
Been in Chicago my whole life. I hate when they rename things. Lake Shore Drive, Sears Tower, and Comiskey will always be the names in my opinion
The building you referred to as the Edgewater Beach Hotel is actually the Edgewater Beach Apartments. The Edgewater Beach Hotel was taller and more grand. It was torn down around 1967
I always call places and things by their original names or at least the names I knew them by. I traveled to Burma (Myanmar) and visited Rangoon (Yangon) and always called them by what I feel is their proper original names. When I went to Vietnam I visited several cities, including Saigon (Ho Chi Minh City), again it's Saigon to me.
Jean Baptiste Point DuSable sounds like he deserves some recognition, perhaps erect a statue close to the location where he lived, maybe even open an information center at that same location for people to visit and learn more about him. I don't see how renaming part of a road does anything to honor the man or teach people who he was and his place in history.
I like the new name DuSable Lake Shore Drive vs just lake shore drive.
Same here, I call the western half of the US the Mexican Empire and the French Territory. Likewise the east coast Spanish Territory and British Territory.
@@Jason-rn4jk I recently began calling all of the earth's land masses Pangea Pieces
"Proper" names? The fucking entitlement on this one lmao
There are hundreds of streets in Chicago named after people and as a kid it was cool learning this and then learning who those people were and why they got a street named after them. Or a neighborhood. So I can imagine how 10 years from now a kid's curiosity is sparked and they get to learn who DuSable was. And how rich and deep Chicago's history is. All because they asked who is this DuSable person this street is named after.
Can't believe I wasted 15min of my Sunday to watch some garbage Lori Lightfoot had her hands on.
Keep it Lake Shore Drive! I was born and raised in Chicago and I will always call it LSD its name sake.
DuSable already had a school, a museum, a park, a harbor and a bridge named after him. So how much is enough?
DuSable was a fur trader so I'm very surprised PETA allowed the name change.
I am mad they changed the name because of my Lake Shore Drive... LSD joke..."i drive on LSD all the time...and i dont even have a car!"
Like you, I'm so used to calling it Lake Shore Dr., as I will alway call the Sears Tower, the Sear Tower not Willis tower. But I do think we should definitely honor J. B. DuSable. Perhaps we should rename Grant Pk to DuSable Park, because no one thinks of President Grant when they think of the Park. lol
Maybe they could change the name of Jackson Park instead. If it was named after Andrew Jackson, they'd be renaming it for someone who actually had good relations with the natives.
There is a bust of him by the Apple Store on Pioneer Court, and an entire bridge named after him, as well as myriad other institutions, including a high school and a museum. He has quite enough recognition. But LSD will always be LSD.
Lakeshore Drive will always be Lakeshore Drive to me same as the Sears Tower and the Rosemont Horizon
On changing the name. It’s so iconic, that I’m afraid a change would be very confusing, especially for semi-frequent visitors.
They should rename a PARK after him.
[ Not actually being from Chicago, I guess it’s my 1/2 Cent worth]
I can’t imagine re-naming St.Louis’ “FORREST PARK”, “Liguest Park .
📻🙂
There are many things named after him in the city.
I've lived in Chicago all my life and presently four blocks from LSD. It is still Lake Shore Drive to me.
I have always known the drive as Lake Shore Drive and even if they rename it. I will still call it by that name.
I will never accept the name change. I just love saying I like to take a trip on LSD.
4:05 is Lake Shore Drive Hotel. Defunct now, my grandfather was the GM of it for over 30 years. ^_^ Fun fact. I own a TON of items from it and keep them in climate controlled storage. Most things I have from 181 Lake Shore are from between 1928-1955. Today, it is known as The Mayfair Condos.
Fuck new names.
OG status 😂
It's LAKE SHORE DRIVE for life 🎉
The road needs to have a road diet. The pedestrian path is in disrepair while the road is like 10 lanes wide in some of the most valuable real estate.
Another great video. Very interesting and informative. I loved it. Your final picture of the Museum of Science and Industry was not even mentioned. Wat a great place to visit.
Want all renaming in Chicago to stop. Even in the burbs (Alstate Arena).
Ryan, I agree with you wholeheartedly. LSD it will always be. Sears Tower that same thing. Thank you for all these videos. I have lived here all my life and still learn things from your videos. Keep up the great work.
Chicago is absolutely amazing cities, very beautiful,
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Chicago: Wrigley Field, Sears Tower, Lake Shore Drive.
Should get rid of the road completely. Return it to being an actual park.
Like the Sears Tower, there is no need to change the name… Lakeshore Drive forever
I still call them Sears Tower and Lake Shore Drive.
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Buckingham Fountain still gives me the warm fuzzies. My parents used to take me there every year the spring day it was turned back on after winter.
There are issues in Chicago that need attention, renaming streets is not one of them.
Lake Shore drive needs to be renamed back to its original name.
Yay you must really be from Illinois, pronouncing it as Illinoi (NO S!!!!) Keep more content coming :)
I've never heard _anyone_ pronounce it with an S. Is that a thing over there?
@@VideoDotGoogleDotCom People from out of state all seem to want to pronounce it Ill-in-noise, with a hard "S" on the end, makes me cringe every time! No one from here in Chicago or even downstate says it that way!
We still say South Shore Drive (aka MLK Drive)
And I still call it "Comiskey Park". Always will.
Why do i not hear much about the Worlds Fair anymore?