Ask an Archaeologist #4: Alternative Facts and Fake News

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  • @Tylwaa
    @Tylwaa 2 місяці тому

    How do ya'll handle the man or woman (male or female) skeletons nowadays? Not long ago a science magazine had a front page "SHOCKING DNA finds only Two Sexes!" Now that wasn't so surprising to most of us, but not long after, it was retracted to say it wasn't 100% reliable (as it used to be, ha!) but how do ya'll handle that? What if it was DNA male that identified as a female? What then? How can ya'll tell that? The whole idea to me is absurd, but I was wondering if it was an issue with so much absurd claims. I remember XX and XY chromosomes but it never seems to be brought up in Congressional hearings on the matter, no-one from the left can identify what a women is. Hopefully the pendulum of time will swing back to the middle instead of too far left or too far right! because it starts swinging back and forth giving us all a headache.

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  2 місяці тому

      Good question. When identifying the sex of an individual, we have a range of morphological proxies like the shape of the sciatic notch. Often these proxies fall in a middle range so that a solid sex determination isn't possible. When talking about gender it's more dependent on the kinds of material culture they were buried with. Most indigenous groups in North America have at least three genders, but membership in that third gender is often a matter of initiation through dreams or similar life events. In the absence of grave items that relate to things like gendered labor it's not something that archaeology is well equipped to explore, so we usually just talk about biological sex. If we do get an individual with strong anatomical markers for one sex and strong material signals of a different gender, that suggests they were the third gender, which most native people call "two spirit" these days.

  • @rexmundi3108
    @rexmundi3108 3 роки тому +19

    Great to hear an actual archaeologist speak. So many channels on UA-cam are run by armatures, which in itself isn't bad until you get to the theories put forward. Hey, I've been accused of being an amateur archaeologist because of my involvement in a major find ( I was interviewed on national TV, newspapers etc.) but I always say I'm just interested in the field and history in general. I'm not an amateur anything. Too many nuts in that bag. No Templars on Oak Island for me.

    • @MarcosElMalo2
      @MarcosElMalo2 3 роки тому

      “Amateur”
      Looks like you got nicked by the auto carrot. 🚙 🥕

    • @revolvermaster4939
      @revolvermaster4939 3 роки тому +5

      Right, everybody knows the Templars hid their stash in the Grand Canyon! LOL

  • @Christian-uc2qi
    @Christian-uc2qi 2 роки тому +3

    Amazingly frank, honest discussion from an opinionated field archaeologist! Thank you kind sir!

  • @AncientAmericas
    @AncientAmericas 3 роки тому +9

    Great episode! I really enjoyed your answers to all these questions and was delighted to see someone else played a lot of civilization 3 growing up (but civ4 was and still is my favorite of the franchise). Also thanks for the shout out!
    Excellent answer to the cocaine mummy question. I get that one a lot on my channel.

    • @ferengiprofiteer9145
      @ferengiprofiteer9145 3 роки тому +1

      Ha, I was going to ask him about the other channels and note yours.
      See you soon as I'm through bingeing his.🤠👍

  • @gnostic268
    @gnostic268 3 роки тому +7

    Enjoyed the video. I don't remember asking that question but I think I left out the context. In my tribe (Lakota-Standing Rock) there are stories of mythology and cosmology that some people claim is proof that we've been in the Black Hills area for 2,000 years but there is evidence that we were not that far west until later. Another tribe, the Cheyenne also has almost similar stories but we're distinct tribes. *Also local and community colleges often have staff members in the science/anthropology department who have experience in archaeology. I took a few science classes locally in central Illinois and my professor found out I was Native. He asked me after class one day if I was from the Four Corners area since he was doing field work in that area. Later after my husband who is Natchez/Muskogee (Red Stick) Creek bought several books about Cahokia Mounds and I read them I saw that my former professor, Glenn Freimuth had also worked at Cahokia with Timothy Pauketat? but he hadn't mentioned it since he was working at a different site when I took his classes.

    • @fleadoggreen9062
      @fleadoggreen9062 Рік тому

      How did ur family end up in illinois? Not too many native in this state ? Cahokia is interesting

  • @EastKYancients
    @EastKYancients 3 роки тому +2

    You cover interesting topics of ancient americas on here. I am enjoying watching your videos. I’m in eastern kentucky these days, and have been fortunate to stumble upon cliff overhangs that have produced some really nice archaic era relics. Always been into archaeology, but had never found anything other than petrified wood until feb of last year. Learning from your channel, keep it up brother. I’m working in Jefferson NC (Boone) for next two weeks. I’ll be walking the job site grounds looking.

  • @asahelsmith9490
    @asahelsmith9490 3 роки тому +3

    Heavy construction equipment can also excessively compact soil near unprotected trees causing the tree to suffocate and die in a year or two afterwards.

  • @davidforman3283
    @davidforman3283 Рік тому

    Thank you for doing this channel. It is so valuable for me and my studies. Thank you.

  • @flash_flood_area
    @flash_flood_area 2 роки тому +2

    Extra points for introducing me to the term, "cattywompus" (sp?). I'll add that to my collection of colloquialisms. Thanks!

  • @danc1852
    @danc1852 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks for sharing . I'm always trying to form a picture of what life must have been like for the first people in the America's ,entire continent's to explore, strange animals , etc , different skills needed for different environments , adapting over time to what must have been fairly rapid climate changes.
    Could you comment or possibly do a future talk on what the environment was like for the Paleo Indian's and changes through time? Did they first head south for warmer Temps then follow the receding glaciers back north or was it a more even spreading out? I guess air Temps started off much lower and dryer , sea levels lower , topagraphy and rivers different ?

  • @YellowstoneBrew
    @YellowstoneBrew 3 роки тому +2

    I am new to your channel. And love it. Thanks much for explaining Native history in understandable interesting ways. I relate as a Montana geologist who brings hikers to geological hikes! And surely you are a keyboard vocalist as your lookalike Greg Allman. Ha!

  • @jameshartsfield8585
    @jameshartsfield8585 3 роки тому +2

    Very useful video! What is your comment on drill holes found in ancient Egyptian stone? Also lathe objects that are ancient Egyptian? Thanks for your responsiveness to the interested general public! J, Richard Hartsfield

  • @michaelmclendon2587
    @michaelmclendon2587 3 роки тому +3

    Nathaniel I've been listening to all your archaeology information I love it I live here in Northeast Texas I'm getting old looks like I'm the last one with the information on some of your artifacts that everyone talks about bannerstones the so-called Indian marbles and the charm stones along with a lot of other it's been passed down to my uncle's and great-uncles great-grandfather's they told me what they were used for and how they were used you seem like a really cool guy I would love to give you the information before I pass on and take it with me love your videos thanks

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  3 роки тому +2

      Man, I'm really not the guy to talk to. But I would recommend two things you might do. 1. contact the anthropology departments at the universities in your area, as well as the local archaeology society.
      2. Make some kind of recording of whatever it is you want to tell me. Either audio or video or just write it out. That way I can pass it on to whoever might be able to use it.

    • @michaelmclendon2587
      @michaelmclendon2587 3 роки тому +1

      @@NathanaelFosaaen thanks thanks man information the who get in touch with

  • @davidbjork2771
    @davidbjork2771 8 місяців тому

    Hi, I have been watching your show and you are very knowledgeable. I am an amateur archeologist. My survey encompasses a 4 mile perimeter which has artifacts and petroglyphs on my land. One of the things i am trying to find out is who these people were. There are stone artifacts that look like prehistoric birds. One of the things I noticed is that I can't find a lot of information on these people. The samples that I have found are 50 percent slate and the others are granite and a chert and other types of stone.
    My opinion which doesn't mean much is that I have hundreds of thousands of different and interesting artifacts from Clovis to contact on my property.

  • @sunflowerheather7019
    @sunflowerheather7019 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent content. Thank you

  • @AncientAmericas
    @AncientAmericas 3 роки тому +2

    Question for ask an archaeologist: What's your goal(s) after you get your Ph.D.?

  • @devinadler8337
    @devinadler8337 3 роки тому +3

    How big were the larger precontact polities north of the Rio Grande, in terms of land area and/or population? I've seen estimates of 50-60,000 people for some chiefdoms. Were there any larger polities?

  • @twothreebravo
    @twothreebravo 3 роки тому

    Considering I only found your channel last month it was weird going to that "Over The Hills & Far Away" video and already seeing my blue Thumbs Up on it. Apparently, at some point in the past, I'd already stumbled upon it. Who knew the internet was such a small world?

  • @MogofWar
    @MogofWar 3 роки тому +1

    20:48 To be fair, I had zoned out a bit while watching that vid the first time. Had I processed "Morning Star" on my first watch I would have probably not made that statement... But that's good because not having the ignorant question would have deprived me of the answer you gave and the reading recommendation. I guess I just keep stumbling and bumbling into most of the things I learn.
    P.S. Played every Civ game but VI... Well in the main series. Haven't played Call to Power, Revolutions, or Alpha Centauri. With With Civ IV Colonization being the only spinoff Title I've played.

  • @janices6370
    @janices6370 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting questions and comments Thank you!

    • @user-nn6nq8kv3y
      @user-nn6nq8kv3y 3 роки тому

      17:24 that cocaine trash is being pushed by Afrocentrics and radical black identity groups to try to prove they wuz hur befoe Columbus and shiet.

  • @ferengiprofiteer9145
    @ferengiprofiteer9145 3 роки тому +3

    Have you found our helped excavate any "mass kill" sites?
    The new (to me) idea that large animal bones preserve the marrow for long periods of time gives another angle of thought about them.

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  3 роки тому +5

      I worked on the bone bed at Blackwater Draw in New Mexico, but only for a few days as a guest.

  • @troytreeguy
    @troytreeguy 3 роки тому +2

    If cultures are caching goods at presumably many sites, would this indicate a level of wealth ? If your subsistence in existence one would not own 20 extra pots to leave across your range. Just a thought.

  • @christianbuczko1481
    @christianbuczko1481 3 роки тому +2

    About the north amercan connection with the norse, the only potential evidence is one body dating from the 13th century in the north uk which seems to show signs of syphalis. The body does exist, but the experts are still trying to work out if its true or just something similar and entirely local.

  • @christianbuczko1481
    @christianbuczko1481 3 роки тому +4

    In the amazon, vast areas of land has black soil, its full of human genarated organic waste which enriched the soil and made it far more fertile, im curious is theres anything similar in the north american area?

  • @tomevans4402
    @tomevans4402 Рік тому

    Great talk

  • @Dr._Nicholi_Rasmuson
    @Dr._Nicholi_Rasmuson 2 роки тому

    Not convinced on the 130k San Diego Mammoth find. I've seen claims of tools found at the site, as well as more detailed discussion on what a fresh break and dry bone break and fossilzed bone break looks like.....etc etc. It was glossed over very quickly in this video, which I came to after the full break-down of the 33k Chiquihuite Cave critique which WAS very detailed.
    I'd like to see a full breakdown on this too.

  • @ferengiprofiteer9145
    @ferengiprofiteer9145 3 роки тому +1

    Oh, it just dawned on me, you were in Paris Texas because they were expanding highway 82 to 4 lane devided for a ways, I'll bet.

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  3 роки тому +1

      Nope! that survey would have been a while ago. I was there for the reservoir.

  • @aaronaaronsen5976
    @aaronaaronsen5976 3 роки тому +1

    Civ III heck yeah. I still put in tens of hours a year on it.

  • @rickybuhl3176
    @rickybuhl3176 2 роки тому

    'Over here, come join in the line -of- on Ramesses'..

  • @repetemyname842
    @repetemyname842 2 роки тому

    Hey Nate, not sure how to best contact you but Im hoping you get notices on the comment section, even on an old video. I have a question about a mammoth carcass from the Lake Superior area that supposedly showed tool marks, I heard about this story from an elderly neighbor maybe 15 years ago and he was claiming the tool marks were estimated to be 15 to 20K years old.
    I have no idea how or where he got his information but he was a college educated man who had many contacts in the archaeology and geology world so while Im doubtful regarding the age I was hoping you maybe know more about the story.
    Our conversation took place around 2005-07 and it pops into my mind every now and then and I always figured if the story was true I would see something in the news but to the best of my memory Ive read nothing on the subject. If you do have any info please direct me to the video you might have made.
    Also, I think he included a tidbit about the stone points also found which were supposedly earlier than a Clovis point. Again, this was just a one off conversation between neighbors as we compared arrowheads found in northern Wisconsin. Thank you for anything you might have on this.

  • @ferengiprofiteer9145
    @ferengiprofiteer9145 3 роки тому +2

    Is likely sea level at the time shell midens and mounds were made taken into account as site information?

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  3 роки тому +1

      Yes. It actually gets a surprising amount of ink.

  • @johnrobinson4445
    @johnrobinson4445 Рік тому

    Civilization I was also great. As was II.

  • @samuelmingo5090
    @samuelmingo5090 3 роки тому +1

    I don't think you cited Lewis Binford enough HAHAHAHA

  • @nokiot9
    @nokiot9 3 роки тому

    Also do you have to worry about any kind of pathogens in those heaps? Or are they anaerobic long enough to be inert?

  • @rsoud9562
    @rsoud9562 3 роки тому +1

    you've mentioned about gaps in the records lost technology and a transition from eating migratory birds to fish to lager game do you believe in a catastrophe theory like we here from a lot of the other youtubers

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  3 роки тому +2

      Catastrophism is a thing that happens, but people tend to jump to that as an explanation any time significant changes happen. Archaeology as a discipline had a phase of that too, but catastrophe has a few decades of critical evaluation on it now. There are MANY mechanisms of change, and a lot more of them are social and more gradual than most avocationals want to consider. Usually there are a lot of vectors interacting at once.

  • @nokiot9
    @nokiot9 3 роки тому +1

    The buried people in those shell mounds? 😱

  • @kariannecrysler640
    @kariannecrysler640 2 роки тому

    Relating to the burials associated with the caves and rock shelters, were any dna samples allowed by the tribes?

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  2 роки тому

      Not to speak for them, but my sense is that First Peoples in general are against aDNA research because of the very real objection that it commodifies their ancestry without providing any substantive benefit to their own community, and they are also concerned about the possibility that the information be skewed to disenfranchise them further. They tend to be much more enthusiastic about the DNA of the crops that their ancestors created.

    • @kariannecrysler640
      @kariannecrysler640 2 роки тому

      @@NathanaelFosaaen I completely support their choices. History has given them every reason for caution. I, on the other hand, have an insatiable need to learn as much as I can about everything. So I ask. Could care less if I am right or wrong as long as I have the truth of a thing.
      Another question for you... the rock walls all over the east coast, currently explained as European settlers I think. Has anyone looked into an earlier explanation? Like herd driving/hunting, territorial boundaries or the dreaded megalithic ceremonial thing? I personally would love for it to be part of the creators game playing field 😁 I can not find anything on them beyond Europeans.
      By the way, thanks for taking the time to answer. I am not educated like you and others in your world and genuinely appreciate your efforts.

  • @richardschuerger3214
    @richardschuerger3214 3 роки тому +1

    It seems like the Norse who made it to North America had self quarantined in Greenland before getting there.

    • @MogofWar
      @MogofWar 3 роки тому +2

      A lot of the worst diseases simply hadn't hit yet.

  • @UapArkansas
    @UapArkansas Рік тому

    Hello, I watched one of your videos.

  • @rubixmantheshapeshifter1769
    @rubixmantheshapeshifter1769 3 роки тому +1

    great info there buddy ...... um your eyes got an anime look . id say it suits you just fine

  • @SCouch-cw6je
    @SCouch-cw6je Рік тому

    I’m curious how they determine the different layers in a shelter that basically dust for several inches or feet

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  Рік тому

      Cut it clean enough and you can see the strats.

    • @SCouch-cw6je
      @SCouch-cw6je Рік тому

      @@NathanaelFosaaen I understand if there moisture in the soil but I’m talking about literal dust where every time you try and remove a little the side just collapse. I remember a shelter where the national forest archeologist was taking test samples and is was so dry it would just fall threw her box without any resistance! The red river gorge and the Daniel national forest have some very interesting sights. Part of my internship was to help monitor these sights for vandalism

  • @fleadoggreen9062
    @fleadoggreen9062 Рік тому

    Did they have their own outhouses per family? Or one giant outhouse?

  • @bella42291
    @bella42291 2 роки тому

    Will you make a video that explains the new oldest settlement Bocuklu Tarla?

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  2 роки тому +1

      Old world archaeology? Nah, I'm really not interested.

  • @ahuatltelicza7874
    @ahuatltelicza7874 2 роки тому

    Do you know anything about the Waubansee Stone? can't seem to find any legit articles about it, is it a hoax?

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  2 роки тому +1

      I've never heard of it before, but a good rule of thumb is that if Scott Wolters says it's real, then assume it's fake.

  • @ICTsiege
    @ICTsiege 2 роки тому

    Guys! I have told you a hundred times: stop doing lines of booger sugar off my mummy. That is so gross and it will totally come back to bite me when I sell it.

  • @revolvermaster4939
    @revolvermaster4939 3 роки тому

    Do you use a heated trowel in Alaska?🤣

  • @larrysills3950
    @larrysills3950 3 роки тому +1

    14:45 someone knows how to pronounce sauna

  • @andrewlast1535
    @andrewlast1535 5 місяців тому

    Victorian antiquarians ripping fat lines off of mummies. Lol

  • @jonathanhendrix7429
    @jonathanhendrix7429 3 роки тому

    Any sweet coprolites in the past few days??? I had corn yesterday still awaiting 2nd viewing.

  • @flantos23
    @flantos23 3 роки тому

    have you ever heard of malazan?

  • @gordoncrotty3730
    @gordoncrotty3730 Рік тому

    One simple question, your answer will be telling. Who were the MOUNDBUILDERS?

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  Рік тому +1

      Which ones? Mound construction started around 6000 years ago in Louisiana at the latest. it subsided for a few centuries and then started again in the same region at places like Poverty Point and Jaketown. There was another pause in earthen mound construction, but shell mounds continued being used and modified in the region between Alabama and Kentucky. Then you get the Adena culture in Ohio which anticipated the Hopewellian interaction sphere which appears all over the eastern woodlands and lasted until about 500-700 AD. Then finally you get the Mississippian culture which had several manifestations and were ancestral to different modern ethnic groups like the Caddo out Arkansas way and the Muskogee in Georgia and so on. It's a long tradition in Native American landscape construction and culture.

  • @ferengiprofiteer9145
    @ferengiprofiteer9145 3 роки тому +1

    Did you knap that arrowhead at your neck?
    I'm betting yes.

  • @_MikeJon_
    @_MikeJon_ Рік тому

    Ever consider debunking the pseudoscience channels here on UA-cam?

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  Рік тому

      That's already Miniminuteman's thing.

    • @_MikeJon_
      @_MikeJon_ Рік тому

      @@NathanaelFosaaen not really. He's doing a series on Graham Hancock and did a couple other videos but thats it. World of antiquity definitely is more in that wheelhouse but he's a historian.
      If you look up sites like Göbekli Tepe, the sphinx, the pyramids, or type in "megalithic structures" you're only givin pseudoscience nonsense. The only reason I found your channel is because of your Graham Hancock dunking video lol. And I listen to a stupid amount of history/science on UA-cam. The algorithm feeds bullshit and or drama to the masses.

  • @TheCorduroyCommunist
    @TheCorduroyCommunist 3 роки тому

    texas toast tom 😍

  • @mikeCavalle
    @mikeCavalle 3 роки тому +2

    dude -- your clips are totally on point and full of great academic information but what's with the dilated eyes?

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  3 роки тому +10

      Lots of crazy drugs.

    • @rs5536
      @rs5536 3 роки тому

      Obviously insane amounts of crackamphetamine and weeds

    • @RobVollat
      @RobVollat 3 роки тому +2

      Jeez, I take a medication for a birth defect that does the exact opposite, I wonder what people would say to me 😂

    • @mikeCavalle
      @mikeCavalle 3 роки тому +2

      @@NathanaelFosaaen: i was rooting for too much cave archeology :-)

    • @NathanaelFosaaen
      @NathanaelFosaaen  3 роки тому +4

      @@mikeCavalle My eyes are just really light sensitive. They're usually super dilated indoors.

  • @boogeymantrav.m3389
    @boogeymantrav.m3389 2 роки тому

    Sorry bud the Federal come take your land if they choose.. Guess you don't watch much news when your out there on the west coast cause they've been taking farmers land for years for next to no reason .. now if you find native artifacts on your land it is no long any use to because even if they don't technically take from , you are no longer allowed to develop that part of your land , not always permanently but for years it gets tied an is of no use to you..

    • @BlastedKat
      @BlastedKat Рік тому

      Exactly! Why construction companies now tell you to destroy or bury anything you find, keep your mouth shut if you want to keep your job and paycheck. We have personally saw these guys roll in and shut down everything from residential homes to commercial construction sites for up to a year so they play in the dirt. No they will not take your property. They will simply restrict you from using it or even walking across it while bankrupting the property owner or company. I like this guy but he is either willfully lying or completely uniformed. As for Florida! Bury and keep your damn mouth shut!