It's always a pleasure coming to the Royal Armouries to fire weapons from historical periods! If you enjoyed this video, hit the like button and stay tuned for part two, where Luke and Jonathan will be shooting the weapons of the Wehrmacht. 🔥🔥🔥
Woah, it’s THE Royal Armouries museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history that Johnathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history works at!
The concept of how serious a wound is and how triage is approached in relation to the time you were shot through out history is interesting though. Maybe even worth its own video.
British people talking about others getting shot: "A bullet anywhere on the body is going to be a problem" British people talking about the time they were shot: "What? This big hole in me chest? Nah, it's fine, no need to bother the doctor over it."
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It's quite nice of Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history, to do these videos. he is an icon.
@@HistoryHit Please do keep it in mind, those of us who have tinnitus from shooting too much or other circumstances can be greatly pained by the fake ringing, it sets our ears to ring; we have to pause the video and wait for our ears to stop screaming at us and then we can continue to watch.
Wow, the Garand they feature here is an early gas trap version, ever-so-rare today as almost all were converted to gas port configuration before & early on in the US involvement in WWII. There are less than 200 gas traps in existence today. I own 3 M1 Garands myself, including 2 early Springfield Garands (September 1941 & June 1942 manufactured rifles) witn one in original and one restored to original configuration, but I've never even seen a gas trap in person. I'd love hearing the back story on how that early weapon wound up in Great Britain. Keep up the good work gents!
That gas trap Garand was a neat surprise. Definitely a rare bird. I have a few M1 Garands and my favorite one is my early May 1941 example I got by chance from the CMP.
I'm a former US Marine. In our initial instruction on the M1911, we were told that the heavy, slow.- moving round was an answer to the thick bamboo-and-tree-bark armor which Philippine insurgents wore during and after the Spanish-American War. Even in the World wars, against modern armies, the heavy slug would inflict more damage than did a high-velocity .38 or 9mm one.
Those were Moro rebels. And other Filipinos had to fight them as well. It was during that campaign that the first Asian and Filipino to earn a Medal of Honor happened (Jose Nisperos)
I did hear that the AK47 had something of an advantage in Vietnam because it had heavier slower rounds than the M16's high velocity rounds. So it had more of a chance of shooting through vegetation like bamboo and branches if they were in the way
For those asking where the BAR and M1 Carbine are, it entirely possible Jonathan doesn’t have any examples he is willing to fire. Carbines are notorious for having their extractors break after a period of time, so it’s possible he didn’t want to damage an original gun. The BAR, I assume it’s possible due to the range limitations and safety. Having fired a BAR from the bipod and shoulder, the gun is fairly controllable, but if you don’t know what you’re doing, it can push you back. Don’t want to shoot an area of the wall not reinforced and have a stray .30-06 round flying through. Keep in mind this is all speculation.
@@Vladpryde BARs are pretty widely available on the collector’s machine gun market in the USA. There’s over 100,000 machine guns on the transferable list, and there’s a decent amount of BARs. A lot of them were surplused to police forces and they ended up on the transferable machine gun market. Now, if it’s transferable, meaning anyone willing to go through the NFA process can buy it, then it’s definitely worth somewhere around that amount given it’s (presumably) a direct sale. When it comes to the BAR in the UK however, we have a bit of a different problem. BARs were issued out to the Home Guard under Lend Lease, but a lot of those also made it back to the States. I believe it was around 20,000 BARs were leased out. Compared that to the 87,000 Garands given to the Home Guard, and the fact that the British purchased the Thompson and 1911 directly, the BAR was a much more rare sight in the UK. Lack of available parts and not wanting to wear out/risk damaging original parts can be a very real reason not to shoot the gun.
@@ianbeedles1329 wow, even when part of the military, the gov’t cucks you in limiting your ammunition supply when firing cool guns. That being said, it is a very fun gun to shoot and one of my favorites. There’s a range in my state that rents one out to people. It’s pricey, but not nearly as pricey as owning the thing.
@@robertwoodroffe123 My dad liked the Springfield as well. When he went to Vietnam they gave him an M-16. He was not happy, he preferred the stopping power of the older weapons.
One of the uses for the Thompson was as a tank crew weapon when they had to dismount. It gave them something more substantial than a simple sidearm, but not so big as to be awkward to keep inside the tank. It was later replaced in that role by the cheaper M3.
Will we also be getting similar, yet separate episodes on shooting British, German, Japanese, and Russian weapons? As well as some of the few other weapons used by countries like Canada and Australia etc in addition to their standard issue British weaponry?
Also if possible I'd love to see weapons from smaller countries actively involved in the war who had their own designs and not just the commonwealth ones.
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@SampoPaalanen These weapons are often very rare, and their ammo is also very hard to find. As an example, the Mannlicher-Schönauer is basically extinct in it's original 6.5 chambering.
Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history*
As a Brit that lives in the US and is able to own firearms.. I have to say the M1 Garand is the greatest rifle of all time. It's truly genius. No wonder the Americans were such a powerful force in WW2.
Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history, is looking rather dapper this episode.
Rubbish. Just about any flintlock looks miles better. The 1911 has an unmistakable utilitarian charm, but it's just a tool, whereas certain handguns are unique, bona fide works of art.
@@alexanderhowarth6460 Can we agree that both are works of art? I also enjoy the craftsmanship put into flintlock pistols, but I should have specified modern handguns.
I visited a military museum just last week, and even seeing flintlocks and muskets up close, the m1911 gives me a childish excitement by just looking and watching it. I love the design so much, it's so bloody good.
@@Ash_Hudson no, art is by definition design for design's sake. I could grant you that 1911s are beautiful without granting that they are art. When I talk about a gun as a work of art, I'm really talking about the engravings and decorations you see on pistols made for royalty and that sort of thing. Gold etching and so on. I can see this comment becoming a pretentious essay on art and style and what makes the 1911 so iconic, so it's probably best I stop here, I regret replying in the first place. I'm glad you like the 1911, so do I.
If anyone is thinking of visiting The Royal Armouries in Leeds, I can thoroughly recommend it. It's probably the best museum I've visited. Let's be honest, any museum that has a Vickers machine gun set up in the lobby for visitors to fire ( electronically at a screen) has got to have a lot going for it. The whole place is a fantastic fantastic study in the history of weaponry, from the medieval to the present day
Jonathon has such a great understanding of firearms. He’s a bridge for Europeans who don’t have as much or any exposure to firearms on educating them on the mechanics and manual of arms of firearms. As a westerner it’s very refreshing and impressive to see how well he educates and handles all firearms.
Apropos of the Thompson. In basic my father had an idiot Sargent who said that the kick of the Thompson was so light you could put it against your chin and fire it. He then proceeded to demonstrate but instead of putting it in single shot mode he put it in full auto and pulled the trigger. The guy knocked out most of his teeth.
I just wanted to say that your channel's logo is that of a Kung Fu movie production company based out of HK in the 70s. It was called Ho Hua films, I think.
You guys forgot the M1 Carbine, I live in the USA and I own M1 Garand, M1903, M1911, British 303, German Mauser and M1 carbine, the M1 carbine is my favorite, lots of fun to shoot.
Lots of folks like to throw shade at the M1 (.30 carbine), for being ineffective, but no one that's ever 'Caught' one of those projectiles would be amongst them! For lighter weight/recoil (Which usually meant better accuracy from the shooter), the terrain they were meant to fight in was against them. Jungle warfare is hell on lighter cartridges/projectiles.
The M1 Carbine is my favorite hiking, vehicle and home defense weapon. So easy to sling over your shoulder. Light and easy to handle. Powerful PDW with .30. Carbine compared to pistol ammo
We marched, drilled and did PT with deactivated M1s in US Navy bootcamp in the 80s so I can say I carried an M1 in the military. Never did fire one. Also had training on the 1911, but didn't fire one of those either!
I would hazard to guess that if you did fire it in anger, that by the time you’d emptied the gun and your enemy had fired his gun, no one is going to hear the “ting” of your empty clip because everyone’s ears will be deadened and probably ringing too😁
Thanks for your service.... It is because of persons like you that my family and I sleep well each night in suburbia..... Because we know that you've got our backs! 🙂 Thanks again.
@@MrMightyZ My father and his 2 brothers were First Lieutenants from ROTC. They served rather safe and "cushy" positions in the 1950's. My aunt's husband though, he worked his way up to Seargeant in the 1901 Bomb group in Korea. He was a photographer. He not only took tactical images for the service but he also other, public image /war confidence images for the war effort. Knowing he was closest to the heat, than my other uncles, I asked him about the use of his side arm. --He said only once. He explained that it was late one night, as he was working in the photo lab: This big, hairy rat kept scurrying past the door nearby. Every couple minutes and that dirty rat would come by again. Having had enough of this distraction,, my uncle said he pulled his side arm from his belt and set it upon the table. The next time that annoying rat came by..... "Boom!" uncle says he blasted that dirty stinker into the middle of next week! 😀 It did leave a bit of a mess there, in the hall, but uncle says he eventually signed out and went to his barracks. He was woken a few hours later though. His superior officer wanted to see him. At that office, with his superior officer and the next higher ranking officer on base, they questioned my uncle about the big hole in the wall of the office across the hall from the photo lab. My uncle says he explained it just as he /I did here and the young officers could barely keep a straight face! He was eventually advized, "Next time, Seargeant..... Request a trap!" He was then dismissed. My uncle told me that he could still hear their laughter all the way down the hall where he finally exited the building. 😀
@@LG-ro5leYou just marched with that weapon. You were taught to shoot with the actual service weapon. When I was in Navy Boot in the 90s some units would march with M14s since they weren't used in service, like M1s had been retired for the other gentleman. When we went to the range we shot the M16A1.
I know y'all are going for effect, but please, if doing future episodes, stay away from the ringing sound effect. As someone who suffers from tinnitus, it is not appreciated to wonder if it's me or the program.
I feel somewhat sad for Jonathan when he says shooting a Garand is a rare occurrence for him. Here in the USA, the government sells civilians M1 Garands through the CMP. You can buy one in any state.
Semi-automatic centre-fire rifles and carbines have been prohibited for civilian use here in UK since 1986 - we have the Hungerford Massacre to thank for that.
Sure you can, if you’re lucky enough and have enough money to get one. Effective October 1, 2023, the CMP’s new yearly limit on M1 Garands will be 6 per calendar year..” Prices are anywhere from 750~3 or 4K.
@@Bagledog5000 yes, there’s hurdles to jump through, but Garands are still fairly abundant on the civvie market. They are going up in price. However, all of that can be eliminated if we bringback the 80,000 Garands from Korea that were supposed to come back but Obama blocked it and no one has done anything about them since. Hell, even if you don’t want to go through the CMP, I got mine for $1,500. The top quality CMP ones, last time I checked, go for around $1,750. Also, NO ONE should pay $3,000 for a barebones M1 Garand (unless it’s the sniper versions or the gas trap models, or it has specific provenance), just because some fudd lists his M1 on Gunbroker for $3,000 doesn’t mean the gun is actually worth that much. Also, the limit is six guns per individual, which isn’t a problem for anyone other than Garand collectors or paranoid boomers that still believe in “mUh sToPpIng pOwEr.”
@@Bagledog5000 We only have so much surplus.. CMP has been selling Garands forever so it only makes sense as time goes by that we run out of milsurp rifles and the price will go up. It's too bad.. I kinda missed my chance, but there are still plenty of Garands out there outside of CMP! At this point they're historic items and just like an SKS or Mosin, the price is gonna explode.
They left out the M1 Carbine, which kinda foreshadowed the future of battlefield weapons, intermediate cartridge, semi-auto fire. The plain fact is during WWII the US had an amazing array of terrific small arms weapons.
You actually don't realize how iconic American WWII firearms are until they're next to each other. And there's plenty missing, the BAR, M1 carbine, the 1897 trench gun, M1 grease gun etc etc
'Old' hardly means 'Inadequate'! 🙂 I have friends who use black powder pistols/rifles, and 'I' sure's Hell wouldn't want to catch anything they're throwing! One thing to note regarding the semi-auto vs revolver capacity? Reload time. You can swap magazines FAR faster than it takes to manually reload a revolver. 😀
Esp. if you have a wound to your arm, hand or shoulder. You put the pistol between your legs and reload (one working arm helps though) just one example.
The 1911 is still heavily used today by citizens among the United States (myself included) and even a lot of Law Enforcement, especially in states like Texas (a lot of Texas Rangers still select it and that still trickles down into local police and sheriff departments). Not a majority in Law Enforcement, but more than enough to be noticed. Just about every major and minor firearms manufacturer makes their own labeled version of the 1911.
My county Sheriff Dept issues Glocks. The county south of me lets their officers carry whatever they can qualify with, and most of those guys carry 1911s.
And the 03-A4 was not manufactured by Springfield Armory. Remington was the only manufacturer of original 03-A4 rifles. some Some Smith Corona 03-A3s were rebuilt as 03-A4s.
Yours? The garand is Canadian ergo British via the Commonwealth, the M1903 is a cheap tacky copyright infringement not only copying Paul Mausers Gewehr 1898 but also infringing on DWMs Spitzer rounds. The 1911 is a laughing stock, at least 10 iterations were developed while it competed directly with the Luger (designed and perfected in 1898) which ultimately saw all the greatest features from the Luger copied over as the yanks had to keep moving the goalposts to stroke their nationalist egos. Well done for the Thompson I guess, built around a flawed concept, that of the Blish Principle, but it works despite being chambered in an awful calibre. Not much to take pride in, it's just theft mixed with mediocrity, nationalism and excessive amounts of lard.
We sent hundreds of thousands of various firearms in various calibers to the Brits in World War II, they literally wanted anything and everything they could get their hands on fearing that they would be invaded early on in the war, the home guard had a little bit of everything issued to them.
@@andrewince8824 True about the Mauser, however, the Garand was an American project although the designer was Canadian born, the 1911 has nothing in common with the Luger at all, the Luger is actually a very poor combat pistol, was prone to failure and was exceptionally expensive to make, the .45acp sure was better than that 38-200 anemic Brit revolver caliber, your knowledge is not as good as you think it is and is actually at fault, sounds like you have a little anger problem there fella, what’s wrong?, some Yank pound your backside?😂
@@andrewince8824 you seem like one of those guys that would say the F22 isn't anything to boast about. Because if it wasn't for the Germans. Fighter jets wouldn't be a thing. Just say you don't like the USA dude.
Not really. It was very much a first generation submachine even in its simplified state. As a mass production military weapon it was very much behind the M3 Grease Gun.
@@IvanPrintsGunsActually it was around in the 20s. Technically was a gun that started in 1918 before the end of ww1. The early Thompsons had a cumbersome weight which was the biggest complaint. In ww2, it would shoot within nice close patterns, but was still a bit chunky. The main point however was the reduced spray pattern and the ability to shoot tight groups. Certainly by the end of ww2, it was up there with the STG44
You didn't mention the stopping power of the .455 webley mk.v and vi... The brits were firing bricks. Slow bricks, but still.. 265 grains, or 17.5 grams.
What! No grease gun M3 submachine gun or the M1 carbine? The M1903 Springfield was the main battle rifle of the US Marine Corps during the battle of Guadalcanal until October when along with US Army reinforcements did the M1 Garand begin to be issued to the Marines.
Absolutely great video. I think you should've added 2 other weapons to the list - the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) and the M1 Carbine. According to the movie "To Hell and Back," Audie Murphy preferred the Thompson. In one scene he tells someone to give his Thompson back. I believe he was still a sergeant at the time. In the TV series "Combat," with Vic Morrow, Morrow carries a Thompson. My grandfather, who fought through much of WWII in Europe, said it was a very accurate portrayal, right down to the smallest guy carrying the BAR. My grandfather used the BAR and he was a small man. In several movies, I've seen where people carrying a Thompson would tape 3 magazines together. The 2 on the outside were oriented opposite to the one in the middle. This meant they could reload very quickly by just ejecting the expended magazine, flip them over and insert a fully loaded magazine. Admittedly, that adds a lot of weight, but gives you 90 rounds of almost continuous fire. Comment? In 1968 I went to Navy boot camp. We were issued Springfields that had been filled with lead to approximate the weight of the M1 Garand. We did our rifle qualifications using the Garand. While I didn't shoot very well, I rather liked the Garand.
Always love it when Brits upload videos on firearms. Something about the presentation I just love. Not to mention they are actually decent shots and value marksmanship over theatrical bs.
@@Imso3vil89 yes, I always mute those scenes but that’s for dramatic effect within a movie. Seems over the top for a UA-cam video is all I’m saying. Black Hawk down is almost one long screeeeeeeechhhhh. 😂
Snipers don’t generally “sniper duel” like the movies. At least between two equally skilled snipers (vs some yokel or teenager with a scoped rifle, they’re toast) You’ll keep yourself safe, get as close as you reasonably can to the point where you’re pretty sure you know where they are, and call on artillery or air support to turn their entire surroundings into concrete confetti. Either the sniper dies or retreats, and the normal infantry can advance safely and secure the area. Rinse and repeat until you win the war
1) US Maines held on to the M1903 so long because they initially rejected the M1. It wasn't until the front line troops demanded Garands after sampling ones "borrowed" from the Army on Guadalcanal that they revered position. 2) Every Army Rifle Squad had a designated grenadier. Problem was that the M1 grenade launcher ran into problems and wasn't adopted until late in WW2. Some grenadiers were carrying M19003s to launch grenades as late as the Okinawa campaign. 3) The M1903 IS a Mauser. The US had to pay Mauser a license fee and a royalty for each rifle manufactured after it lost in court. Even in WW1 the US continued paying royalties - into a special bank account that held the payments until after the war 4) The British had the opportunity to adopt the M1, but - after trials - rejected it. 5) Thompson - shown is either a M1 or M1A1 -simplified for production purposes - that did not accept the drum magazines (heavy, awkward and difficult and time consuming to reload). The original gun, the M1921 sold so poorly that only one batch was made and Auto-Ordnance was still selling M1921's updated to M1928's (forward pistol grip replaced by horizonal one and some simplification) until 1939, when the contracts rolled in (along with those lovely Pounds and Francs) from France and Britain (who took over the French contracts). 6) By mid-WW2 the US Army issued a submachine gun (M1 or M3) to Rifle Squad leaders.
7:09 The expert hasn't factored in the one in the chamber. A Colt 1911 with factory mag holds eight rounds of .45 not seven. Also, consider the military is only using ball ammo, nothing fancy like hollow points. Eight rounds of .45 in semi-auto with a dream trigger is in another world comparable to a .38 revolver.
Luke! ManAfacturer? Eeesh. Minor blip on an otherwise informative and entertaining video. Nice work otherwise. The 1911 has one horrible design flaw - the hammer. When gripping the pistol tightly, to ensure that the grip safety is compressed, the web of the hand rides up the back of the grip past the beavertail, and comes in harm's way from the hammer spur in recoil. That means a bloody wound in battlefield conditions, leading to infections and partial incapacitation of the shooting hand. Absolutely idiotic. The Commander-style hammer is really a mandatory replacement item on a 1911. Having said that, I'm a great fan, and own 5 - one of which my father brought back from the war, and one newer, double-stack, that solves the capacity problem. As for the 9mm vs. .45 ACP wrangle, to say that the higher velocity round is preferable - often on the grounds of its possessing a flat(ter) trajectory - strikes me as absurd. The short sight radius of a pistol, combined with its marginal muzzle energy, makes it a short-range weapon. Notions that you'll be shooting enemies across a football field in combat are hallucinations - so trajectory is irrelevant. Big holes in the enemy are far more important. The switch to 9mm was clearly motivated by commonality with NATO, magazine capacity, and recoil aversion of smaller-statured soldiers. And penetration has never really been an issue with .45 ACP. And as for the Garand, I personally like it, having trained with it, but my uncle - a Marine who fought in Okinawa - recounted to me that the 1903 Springfield was often preferred by Marines over the Garand - perhaps because they trained on them, or felt that a bolt-action was intrinsically more accurate - and that many, given the opportunity, traded their Garands for 1903s in the hands of other troops. I don't own a Springfield, but I do have the reputed pinnacle of bolt-action smoothness, a .303 Enfield, and a semi-auto is most definitely preferable in a firefight to a bolt action, as is obvious from current military practice worldwide. Minor side note: the term "trench broom" was first applied to the Winchester model 1897 shotgun, rather than the Thompson, which came later. In fact, the Germans in WWI protested the use of shotguns (!) as too destructive to qualify as legitimate weapons of war. SMH. I very much enjoyed your video; my investing the better part of an hour in this busy world speaks very well for your content and presentation. Nicely done. How did you resist the temptation to shoot everything yourself???
M1 Garand....such a beautiful weapon. That puppy kicks like a mule though. I joined the Army in 1984 & we had M16A1's. My buddy had a Garand & we cooked off a few hundred rounds at the range with it. I LOVED it. Load it with your palm, NOT your thumb....unless you didn't like having thumbs.
As far as magnification for a sniper scope goes , remember that you would be hard pressed to find a platoon of American soldiers without some of the riflemen not having had a rifle in their hands since childhood, meaning that some of them would have been expert shooters before the army ,or marine corps 👍
I don't know how to explain this. Is there a way you guys could "equalize" the audio levels from "narration" and "range narration"? When Mr. Ferguson is talking in the range it has a lower volume and, watching this at night, I'm constantly upping and lowering my volume so I don't wake up a monster, I mean GF.
The USA and Germany were the best in WW2 small arms. Sure the Russian PPSH comes to mind but, most of their stuff was just decent. Mosin makes a decent rifle, PPSH a good bullet hose, etc. But, the Garand was without question, the best main battle rifle of any WW2 participant. The Thompson, BAR, Grease Gun (basically an American MP40 but in .45ACP), the M1 carbine, 1911. Germany had a slow firing but classic bolt action rifle but towards the end of the war, there were lots of Gewehr 43's, STG's,Volks Sturm Gewehrs, Mp38, mp40, P-38's, Lugers, and what really shines are the German MG-34 and MG-42.
Back in the good old days in America, prior to the 1934 gun control act, (a result of Chicago ne'er-do-wells using the "Tommy gun" for nefarious purposes) and due to lack of U.S. military interest in his invention, Thompson attempted to market his guns to western ranchers, I saw an advertisement poster featuring a cowboy-type fending off a pack of marauding wolves with a Thompson.
Perhaps you should have mentioned the M3 .45 greece gun, the 1918 30.06 BAR, the 1917 .45 Colt / S?&W Revolvers., .38 COLT VICTORY / S&W Military and Police Revolver..All US weapons used in combat in WW2
To you , my cousins across the Atlantic.: I am half Yankee and half Wanker...Just call me 'Yanker..'.....Nicely done with this vid 'Tommy'.....Nicely done. My Grandfather and Great Grandfather would be proud!!! - Cheers - "Doc"
Great video I enjoyed it immensely, I think you could lose the music though, maybe do a follow up with the grease gun, M1 carbine, BAR. As far as a bolt action this Yank would actually prefer the smoothness, capacity, and battle handiness of the MK III SMLE, cheers!😊
So I know the 1911 is technically not the U.S. Military's main side arm BUT I personally know a few people who still use it and haven't been told differently. My cousin is a SEAL and has been in the teams for over 10 years so obviously no one's gunna fuck wit him about his side arm but WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELS???! He told me unless you fuck up some how your command probably won't ever care.
6:20 and today.... thats something we WANT!!! we want to be able to "thoughtlessly" draw and flick the safety off (which is why pistols like the Glock have no safety... or others have a little "blade" in the middle of the trigger) . if you are drawing a pistol.... that means you intend to shoot (because simply threatening/brandishing is illegal.... and also just stupid) . idk... when hunting i NEVER carry a round in the chamber. my dad always +1s.... and just leaves the bolt up however... be both dont use the safety (we trust it, its mechanically sound design, and can even lock the bolt ONLY from moving back, but still up and down.... or lock it 100% in all directions) but its just in a crappy spot (we both have Ruger M77 Mk2 rifles.... his in 270, mine is 30-Hate) . however.... if i carried a 1911.... i 100% would carry it "cocked and locked" the ADDED grip safety gives me confidence to carry it "cocked and locked" . you have 3 things you need to do.... press trigger + grip safety + normal safety . while my method of carrying a bolt action requires a LOT of movement... my dads only requires 1 "slap" + a trigger press. (which is why i dont like it) . . . however.... if im expecting to see deer over this next ridge/close range..... im chambered and ready to go. if im moving through brush... ill flick on the safety... but normally i just cover the trigger guard and keep "my booger hook off the bang switch"
Re Colt 1911-A1 (which I carried and used) could be carried safely with 7 in magazine and 1 in chamber, giving 8 rounds. This was not normal carry though and only if contact was inevitable. Also, reload with a semi auto pistol like this was far faster than a revolver. Changing magazines was fast. Revolver sped loaders were not common and required a lot of practice. They were still slow and unreliable for the average military/police person compared to a magazine in a semi-auto. The other BIG advantage is you could very quickly reload a semi auto at any point. With a revolver reloading, a partially used wheel meant you were throwing rounds on the floor. With the semi auto you usually, with pre-emptive reloading, stuffed the magazine and unused rounds back in your pocket to top up later. Re the stopping power. In the past body armour was not common so a .45ACP would go into the first (human) target and stop there causing a lot of damage. It was less likely to go through to hit something else. Important for police, counterterrorist, recce, and similar scenarios. You hit the target you are aiming at, not something else behind. But when it hits, the target will go down,
I own all of these, PLUS, and M1917 Eddington Enfield, an M1898 Krag, an M1 Carbine and an M14.(plus an M1918 BAR!) the Thompson was supposed to be a “Trench Sweeper.”
4:24 i think a TON of people are gonna miss the significance of the "forward serrations" on the slide . their is NOTHING new under the sun..... people think having forward serrations is tacti-cool these days, but it was done in the 1900s/EARLY 1910s . even 1950s cars had automatic climate control (aka, set temp for 72 degrees.... and it blends AC and heat automatically to sustain the set temp) (im a mechanic... this was the first example i could think of) . . still... with no rear serrations.... you have to place you hand OVER the ejection port so if you have a malfunction... you may make it worse by "bouncing" the round back into the pistol . idk, maybe im wrong and the pistol is EVEN longer than i think it is...... but it sure looks that way to my 6 foot 5 hands lol
The British are much better at banning guns than to make and design any good ones, at least at reasonable prices. All the best gun designing talent such as John Browning , Eugene Stoner, Ruger etc etc would have their future dead ended in England, they might finish their career working in a machine shop? Americans learned fast after WW1 and their infantry weapons are clearly superior to the British. A 1911 auto may only have a couple of round advantage, but you can reload it three times for the time it takes to reload a Webley. A double action auto such as the P38 give the option of a long trigger pull or short one. I never use the safety on a P38. But I feel Glock should have a safety like the fast access of the 1911. As the shooter get older, they tend to prefer the 9mm rather than the 45 , it is easier on their wrist. The extra capacity will overcome the less stopping power.
It's always a pleasure coming to the Royal Armouries to fire weapons from historical periods! If you enjoyed this video, hit the like button and stay tuned for part two, where Luke and Jonathan will be shooting the weapons of the Wehrmacht. 🔥🔥🔥
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@BigIron-mz4qp interesting thing to say 🤨📸
No "grease gun"? The M3 gets the short end of the stick, not as glamourous as the Thompson but far more useful.
You missing the M1918 Browning Automatic Rifle in the list here. It served from WW1- early in Vietnam.
no M1 carbine or M3 grease gun or BAR?
They got his name wrong! It's *Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK* .
We're slow on the memes... sorry guys!
Which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history.
@@samzala yup don't forget his surname
77th like.
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Always a pleasure to have you filming on-site, great vid!
Woah, it’s THE Royal Armouries museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history that Johnathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history works at!
Why is there no BAR?🤨
you got any soviet weapons?
"A bullet anywhere on the body is going to be...a problem" The classic British understatement right there.
The concept of how serious a wound is and how triage is approached in relation to the time you were shot through out history is interesting though. Maybe even worth its own video.
Well, we wouldn’t want to make a scene over it would we!
Yep and some problems are worse than others. :D
I love how the British are famous for their dry humor and their humorous understatements lol
British people talking about others getting shot: "A bullet anywhere on the body is going to be a problem"
British people talking about the time they were shot: "What? This big hole in me chest? Nah, it's fine, no need to bother the doctor over it."
I see History Hit and Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history I watch.
Lmao is that a game theory reference
@@GyattRizzler69 Gamespot. It's part of the intro to the firearms expert react series
You have to use his full title every time ahaha
@@parallel-knight yes
@@parallel-knight As he should!
That is Jonathan Ferguson, KOFAAATRAMITUKWHACOTOIWFTH.
“A bullet anywhere in the body is going to be a problem”
Wise words to live by.
Classic British observation. I love it.
It's quite nice of Jonathan Ferguson The Keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armories Museum in the UK, home to thousands of iconic weapons throughout history, to do these videos. he is an icon.
I question the necessity of editing in fake tinnitus to the video.
The dramatic music was a bit much at times as well.
That what was it then. I was starting to worry that mine got suddenly worse ahahahah
For a Brit, 1 man firing a gun in a basement is a traumatizing event.
That was really annoying
Yeah that could go. I already have it in real life pretty bad, no need for it to be simulated.
Unfortunate the BAR wasnt included in the list, but still a great video!
Or the M1 Carbine
I noticed.
@@lavrentivs9891 Or the M3 Grease gun.
Hopefully, we will see the BAR in a WWI video
or the m2 carbine
We can do away with that ringing after firing next video guys lol
Thanks for the feedback. We'll bear this in mind for the next video.
@@HistoryHit Please do keep it in mind, those of us who have tinnitus from shooting too much or other circumstances can be greatly pained by the fake ringing, it sets our ears to ring; we have to pause the video and wait for our ears to stop screaming at us and then we can continue to watch.
What in the world made someone think that was even remotely a good idea to add???
Wow, the Garand they feature here is an early gas trap version, ever-so-rare today as almost all were converted to gas port configuration before & early on in the US involvement in WWII. There are less than 200 gas traps in existence today. I own 3 M1 Garands myself, including 2 early Springfield Garands (September 1941 & June 1942 manufactured rifles) witn one in original and one restored to original configuration, but I've never even seen a gas trap in person. I'd love hearing the back story on how that early weapon wound up in Great Britain.
Keep up the good work gents!
It was probably a lend-lease gun given to Britain for the Home Guard.
That gas trap Garand was a neat surprise. Definitely a rare bird. I have a few M1 Garands and my favorite one is my early May 1941 example I got by chance from the CMP.
I'm a former US Marine. In our initial instruction on the M1911, we were told that the heavy, slow.- moving round was an answer to the thick bamboo-and-tree-bark armor which Philippine insurgents wore during and after the Spanish-American War. Even in the World wars, against modern armies, the heavy slug would inflict more damage than did a high-velocity .38 or 9mm one.
Those were Moro rebels. And other Filipinos had to fight them as well. It was during that campaign that the first Asian and Filipino to earn a Medal of Honor happened (Jose Nisperos)
Drill Sergant know’s the 🌎
I did hear that the AK47 had something of an advantage in Vietnam because it had heavier slower rounds than the M16's high velocity rounds. So it had more of a chance of shooting through vegetation like bamboo and branches if they were in the way
Tested the pistol rounds in trials on live cows.
45 was the most effective on cows.
@@ivancorey7389 Cows with bamboo and bark on them?
I thought my tinnitus was acting up and getting bad, then i realized it was an effect in the video.
Yes, for Gods sake, WEAR YOUR EARPRO
For those asking where the BAR and M1 Carbine are, it entirely possible Jonathan doesn’t have any examples he is willing to fire. Carbines are notorious for having their extractors break after a period of time, so it’s possible he didn’t want to damage an original gun.
The BAR, I assume it’s possible due to the range limitations and safety. Having fired a BAR from the bipod and shoulder, the gun is fairly controllable, but if you don’t know what you’re doing, it can push you back. Don’t want to shoot an area of the wall not reinforced and have a stray .30-06 round flying through.
Keep in mind this is all speculation.
It could also be cost? I saw a BAR for sale here in the States, probably the only one, and they wanted $100,000 for it.
@@VladprydeI guess it's less about "cost" and more about value. It's more about replaceability, which is very limited when something is so expensive.
@@Vladpryde BARs are pretty widely available on the collector’s machine gun market in the USA. There’s over 100,000 machine guns on the transferable list, and there’s a decent amount of BARs. A lot of them were surplused to police forces and they ended up on the transferable machine gun market.
Now, if it’s transferable, meaning anyone willing to go through the NFA process can buy it, then it’s definitely worth somewhere around that amount given it’s (presumably) a direct sale.
When it comes to the BAR in the UK however, we have a bit of a different problem. BARs were issued out to the Home Guard under Lend Lease, but a lot of those also made it back to the States. I believe it was around 20,000 BARs were leased out. Compared that to the 87,000 Garands given to the Home Guard, and the fact that the British purchased the Thompson and 1911 directly, the BAR was a much more rare sight in the UK. Lack of available parts and not wanting to wear out/risk damaging original parts can be a very real reason not to shoot the gun.
@@ianbeedles1329 wow, even when part of the military, the gov’t cucks you in limiting your ammunition supply when firing cool guns. That being said, it is a very fun gun to shoot and one of my favorites. There’s a range in my state that rents one out to people. It’s pricey, but not nearly as pricey as owning the thing.
Sorry, accidentally deleted my comment (blame fat fingers on a small screen 😀).
My father served in both ww2 and Korea. He had the highest regard for the 1911 .45 and the M-1
So M1 Garand !? or M1 carbine , M1 ( 1942’) Thompson,
@@robertwoodroffe123 the garand
@@loudelk99 had one ☝️ Springfield mfg from Italian campaign
@@robertwoodroffe123 My dad liked the Springfield as well. When he went to Vietnam they gave him an M-16. He was not happy, he preferred the stopping power of the older weapons.
@@loudelk99 M14 would have worked
One of the uses for the Thompson was as a tank crew weapon when they had to dismount. It gave them something more substantial than a simple sidearm, but not so big as to be awkward to keep inside the tank. It was later replaced in that role by the cheaper M3.
Dunno if my tinnitus appreciates the fake tinnitus sound effect. 😂
Great to see Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK on History Hit.
Will we also be getting similar, yet separate episodes on shooting British, German, Japanese, and Russian weapons? As well as some of the few other weapons used by countries like Canada and Australia etc in addition to their standard issue British weaponry?
Also if possible I'd love to see weapons from smaller countries actively involved in the war who had their own designs and not just the commonwealth ones.
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Thank you for the video
This would be an amazing series.
@@SampoPaalanen Yup, the Australian Owen gun and the AUSTen, too.
@SampoPaalanen These weapons are often very rare, and their ammo is also very hard to find.
As an example, the Mannlicher-Schönauer is basically extinct in it's original 6.5 chambering.
Jonathan Ferguson is an absolute diamond fella !!! would love to have a bit crack with him !!!
Jonathan Ferguson, the keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history*
Crack kills.
As a Brit that lives in the US and is able to own firearms.. I have to say the M1 Garand is the greatest rifle of all time. It's truly genius. No wonder the Americans were such a powerful force in WW2.
Lived in the USA back the 80s great time for a gun enthuist
@@VillyVassel-eo3qo I'm sad I missed all the affordable milsurps.
We could do without the dramatic heartbeat sound effects. .
Really enjoying this series of you guys and Jonathon firing historic firearms.
Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of firearms and artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, which houses a collection of thousands of iconic weapons from throughout history, is looking rather dapper this episode.
The 1911 is absolutely without a doubt the most beautiful handgun ever made.
Rubbish. Just about any flintlock looks miles better. The 1911 has an unmistakable utilitarian charm, but it's just a tool, whereas certain handguns are unique, bona fide works of art.
@@alexanderhowarth6460 Can we agree that both are works of art? I also enjoy the craftsmanship put into flintlock pistols, but I should have specified modern handguns.
It is the handgun to which almost all modern handguns are modeled after.
I visited a military museum just last week, and even seeing flintlocks and muskets up close, the m1911 gives me a childish excitement by just looking and watching it. I love the design so much, it's so bloody good.
@@Ash_Hudson no, art is by definition design for design's sake. I could grant you that 1911s are beautiful without granting that they are art. When I talk about a gun as a work of art, I'm really talking about the engravings and decorations you see on pistols made for royalty and that sort of thing. Gold etching and so on. I can see this comment becoming a pretentious essay on art and style and what makes the 1911 so iconic, so it's probably best I stop here, I regret replying in the first place. I'm glad you like the 1911, so do I.
If anyone is thinking of visiting The Royal Armouries in Leeds, I can thoroughly recommend it. It's probably the best museum I've visited. Let's be honest, any museum that has a Vickers machine gun set up in the lobby for visitors to fire ( electronically at a screen) has got to have a lot going for it. The whole place is a fantastic fantastic study in the history of weaponry, from the medieval to the present day
Wouldn't that break the screen, electronically?
😂😂😂😂@@maxlumens9085
Look at the body language of Jonathan after giving the rifle to Luke. 17:28.
Dude I love the grouping with the 45 nice!
He even used the period correct grip.
He thinks that more practice and a different hold would improve it !
Nice video, though I really don't like the in my opinion stupid action music or the heart beat nonsense.
We appreciate the feedback and it's noted for next episode.
Jonathon has such a great understanding of firearms. He’s a bridge for Europeans who don’t have as much or any exposure to firearms on educating them on the mechanics and manual of arms of firearms. As a westerner it’s very refreshing and impressive to see how well he educates and handles all firearms.
Englishmen on the streets "Firearms are dangerous, and our streets are safer without them."
Englishmen at the range.
"YEHAWW, I'M from Texas!"
Apropos of the Thompson. In basic my father had an idiot Sargent who said that the kick of the Thompson was so light you could put it against your chin and fire it. He then proceeded to demonstrate but instead of putting it in single shot mode he put it in full auto and pulled the trigger. The guy knocked out most of his teeth.
I just wanted to say that your channel's logo is that of a Kung Fu movie production company based out of HK in the 70s. It was called Ho Hua films, I think.
You guys forgot the M1 Carbine, I live in the USA and I own M1 Garand, M1903, M1911, British 303, German Mauser and M1 carbine, the M1 carbine is my favorite, lots of fun to shoot.
Lots of folks like to throw shade at the M1 (.30 carbine), for being ineffective, but no one that's ever 'Caught' one of those projectiles would be amongst them! For lighter weight/recoil (Which usually meant better accuracy from the shooter), the terrain they were meant to fight in was against them. Jungle warfare is hell on lighter cartridges/projectiles.
@@AniwayasSongtrue, and the m1 carbine was often carried by special ops and especially medica
Also missing in action is Browning’s BAR.
The M1 Carbine is my favorite hiking, vehicle and home defense weapon. So easy to sling over your shoulder. Light and easy to handle. Powerful PDW with .30. Carbine compared to pistol ammo
How could anyone forget that, Then again the M1 Garand gets all the attention in WWII media and so does the Thompson and BAR
We marched, drilled and did PT with deactivated M1s in US Navy bootcamp in the 80s so I can say I carried an M1 in the military. Never did fire one. Also had training on the 1911, but didn't fire one of those either!
I would hazard to guess that if you did fire it in anger, that by the time you’d emptied the gun and your enemy had fired his gun, no one is going to hear the “ting” of your empty clip because everyone’s ears will be deadened and probably ringing too😁
Thanks for your service.... It is because of persons like you that my family and I sleep well each night in suburbia..... Because we know that you've got our backs! 🙂 Thanks again.
@@MrMightyZ My father and his 2 brothers were First Lieutenants from ROTC. They served rather safe and "cushy" positions in the 1950's. My aunt's husband though, he worked his way up to Seargeant in the 1901 Bomb group in Korea. He was a photographer. He not only took tactical images for the service but he also other, public image /war confidence images for the war effort. Knowing he was closest to the heat, than my other uncles, I asked him about the use of his side arm. --He said only once. He explained that it was late one night, as he was working in the photo lab: This big, hairy rat kept scurrying past the door nearby. Every couple minutes and that dirty rat would come by again. Having had enough of this distraction,, my uncle said he pulled his side arm from his belt and set it upon the table. The next time that annoying rat came by..... "Boom!" uncle says he blasted that dirty stinker into the middle of next week! 😀 It did leave a bit of a mess there, in the hall, but uncle says he eventually signed out and went to his barracks. He was woken a few hours later though. His superior officer wanted to see him. At that office, with his superior officer and the next higher ranking officer on base, they questioned my uncle about the big hole in the wall of the office across the hall from the photo lab. My uncle says he explained it just as he /I did here and the young officers could barely keep a straight face! He was eventually advized, "Next time, Seargeant..... Request a trap!" He was then dismissed. My uncle told me that he could still hear their laughter all the way down the hall where he finally exited the building. 😀
What kind of BS ‘training’ is that if they dont even teach you how to fire the weapon
@@LG-ro5leYou just marched with that weapon. You were taught to shoot with the actual service weapon. When I was in Navy Boot in the 90s some units would march with M14s since they weren't used in service, like M1s had been retired for the other gentleman. When we went to the range we shot the M16A1.
I know y'all are going for effect, but please, if doing future episodes, stay away from the ringing sound effect. As someone who suffers from tinnitus, it is not appreciated to wonder if it's me or the program.
Noted. Thanks for the feedback and apologies if it caused any distress.
What ringing sound effect?
What, no m1 carbine, that was the most manufactured American small arm of ww2.
I feel somewhat sad for Jonathan when he says shooting a Garand is a rare occurrence for him. Here in the USA, the government sells civilians M1 Garands through the CMP. You can buy one in any state.
Semi-automatic centre-fire rifles and carbines have been prohibited for civilian use here in UK since 1986 - we have the Hungerford Massacre to thank for that.
@@tacfoley4443 I hate that for you.
Sure you can, if you’re lucky enough and have enough money to get one.
Effective October 1, 2023, the CMP’s new yearly limit on M1 Garands will be 6 per calendar year..”
Prices are anywhere from 750~3 or 4K.
@@Bagledog5000 yes, there’s hurdles to jump through, but Garands are still fairly abundant on the civvie market. They are going up in price. However, all of that can be eliminated if we bringback the 80,000 Garands from Korea that were supposed to come back but Obama blocked it and no one has done anything about them since.
Hell, even if you don’t want to go through the CMP, I got mine for $1,500. The top quality CMP ones, last time I checked, go for around $1,750. Also, NO ONE should pay $3,000 for a barebones M1 Garand (unless it’s the sniper versions or the gas trap models, or it has specific provenance), just because some fudd lists his M1 on Gunbroker for $3,000 doesn’t mean the gun is actually worth that much.
Also, the limit is six guns per individual, which isn’t a problem for anyone other than Garand collectors or paranoid boomers that still believe in “mUh sToPpIng pOwEr.”
@@Bagledog5000 We only have so much surplus.. CMP has been selling Garands forever so it only makes sense as time goes by that we run out of milsurp rifles and the price will go up. It's too bad.. I kinda missed my chance, but there are still plenty of Garands out there outside of CMP! At this point they're historic items and just like an SKS or Mosin, the price is gonna explode.
This is great but did anyone need fake ear ringing FFS mates 😂 PTSD simulator might not be worth expressing that guns are in fact loud 🤣
They left out the M1 Carbine, which kinda foreshadowed the future of battlefield weapons, intermediate cartridge, semi-auto fire. The plain fact is during WWII the US had an amazing array of terrific small arms weapons.
A bit overedited, no?
Jonathon, as well as knowing all about the weapon.. If needed, could also fuck shit up, to the millimeter.
One thing worth mentioning - one man played a part in either the development of each weapon, or the cartridge they fired- John T Thompson
american gun tubers: so I'm gonna hipfire this 50 cal for starters
british gun tubers: fires 3006 *concussion effect* *concussion effect* *heartbeat*
You actually don't realize how iconic American WWII firearms are until they're next to each other. And there's plenty missing, the BAR, M1 carbine, the 1897 trench gun, M1 grease gun etc etc
Love the Garand and Thompson! Always have. Grease gun, too, was pretty cool.
'Old' hardly means 'Inadequate'! 🙂 I have friends who use black powder pistols/rifles, and 'I' sure's Hell wouldn't want to catch anything they're throwing!
One thing to note regarding the semi-auto vs revolver capacity? Reload time. You can swap magazines FAR faster than it takes to manually reload a revolver. 😀
Esp. if you have a wound to your arm, hand or shoulder. You put the pistol between your legs and reload (one working arm helps though) just one example.
@@krossen4
Yes.
We practice various ways to stay in the fight, should we receive injuries/wounds.
they forgot about m3 grease gun and m1 carbine and B.A.R M1918
As an American it's always so cute watching the English get so dramatic about shooting a gun.
If you want drama, you should watch some videos from your home turf 😅
I'm weird... i have never liked the M1 Garand... for a rifle it's just too bulky and heavy for my taste.
The 1911 is still heavily used today by citizens among the United States (myself included) and even a lot of Law Enforcement, especially in states like Texas (a lot of Texas Rangers still select it and that still trickles down into local police and sheriff departments). Not a majority in Law Enforcement, but more than enough to be noticed. Just about every major and minor firearms manufacturer makes their own labeled version of the 1911.
My county Sheriff Dept issues Glocks. The county south of me lets their officers carry whatever they can qualify with, and most of those guys carry 1911s.
My kink is that I love watching people handle firearms with good trigger discipline.
One question I have, since you have the Thompson, where is the BAR?
No BAR available to shoot unfortunately.
Not sure if anyone has pointed it out yet, but the picture and diagram at 7:38 are of a .45 Long Colt, not a .45 ACP.
And the 03-A4 was not manufactured by Springfield Armory. Remington was the only manufacturer of original 03-A4 rifles. some Some Smith Corona 03-A3s were rebuilt as 03-A4s.
Warms my American heart to see our cousins across the Atlantic enjoying our guns.
Thanks for sending us so many in WW2!
Yours? The garand is Canadian ergo British via the Commonwealth, the M1903 is a cheap tacky copyright infringement not only copying Paul Mausers Gewehr 1898 but also infringing on DWMs Spitzer rounds. The 1911 is a laughing stock, at least 10 iterations were developed while it competed directly with the Luger (designed and perfected in 1898) which ultimately saw all the greatest features from the Luger copied over as the yanks had to keep moving the goalposts to stroke their nationalist egos.
Well done for the Thompson I guess, built around a flawed concept, that of the Blish Principle, but it works despite being chambered in an awful calibre.
Not much to take pride in, it's just theft mixed with mediocrity, nationalism and excessive amounts of lard.
We sent hundreds of thousands of various firearms in various calibers to the Brits in World War II, they literally wanted anything and everything they could get their hands on fearing that they would be invaded early on in the war, the home guard had a little bit of everything issued to them.
@@andrewince8824
True about the Mauser, however, the Garand was an American project although the designer was Canadian born, the 1911 has nothing in common with the Luger at all, the Luger is actually a very poor combat pistol, was prone to failure and was exceptionally expensive to make, the .45acp sure was better than that 38-200 anemic Brit revolver caliber, your knowledge is not as good as you think it is and is actually at fault, sounds like you have a little anger problem there fella, what’s wrong?, some Yank pound your backside?😂
@@andrewince8824 you seem like one of those guys that would say the F22 isn't anything to boast about. Because if it wasn't for the Germans. Fighter jets wouldn't be a thing. Just say you don't like the USA dude.
Well done with the tinitus sounds.
I was checking my own ears when that went off.
M1 Thompson was way ahead of it's time. The Rate of fire, stability and accuracy is amazing.
Heavy and expensive. But runs fine!
Not really. It was very much a first generation submachine even in its simplified state. As a mass production military weapon it was very much behind the M3 Grease Gun.
The M1 Thompson wasn't developed until 1942, placing it resoundingly behind the SMGs other countries were using. It was hilariously *behind* its time.
No it was not. Having fired Thompsons on multiple occasions, including trying out an M1928A1 and M1A1, they are terrible guns.
@@IvanPrintsGunsActually it was around in the 20s. Technically was a gun that started in 1918 before the end of ww1. The early Thompsons had a cumbersome weight which was the biggest complaint. In ww2, it would shoot within nice close patterns, but was still a bit chunky. The main point however was the reduced spray pattern and the ability to shoot tight groups. Certainly by the end of ww2, it was up there with the STG44
Good video, but please do not use the tinnitus effect after shooting.
I got my first 1911 Colt 45 when I was 8 years old. It taught patience.
Tom Hanks blew up a tank with it.
That's a very Max Payne firing face you have Jonathan lol
No M1 Carbine????
Because it's focused on guns that are more well known
@40:45 forgot to add ".. and it's not shooting back at me."
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Luke's buddy got the chop did he?
Was wondering the same thing.. what happened to louis?
You didn't mention the stopping power of the .455 webley mk.v and vi... The brits were firing bricks. Slow bricks, but still.. 265 grains, or 17.5 grams.
Uh, y'all ain't gotta add the tinnitus sound between shots, I already have that...
What! No grease gun M3 submachine gun or the M1 carbine?
The M1903 Springfield was the main battle rifle of the US Marine Corps during the battle of Guadalcanal until October when along with US Army reinforcements did the M1 Garand begin to be issued to the Marines.
Why add so much music throughout the video? Can't a person appreciate silence or speech?
I reckon it's just because the 1911 is the gunniest gun that ever gunned. I wouldn't mind seeing a Singer 1911, recently learned about that one.
Absolutely great video. I think you should've added 2 other weapons to the list - the Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) and the M1 Carbine. According to the movie "To Hell and Back," Audie Murphy preferred the Thompson. In one scene he tells someone to give his Thompson back. I believe he was still a sergeant at the time. In the TV series "Combat," with Vic Morrow, Morrow carries a Thompson. My grandfather, who fought through much of WWII in Europe, said it was a very accurate portrayal, right down to the smallest guy carrying the BAR. My grandfather used the BAR and he was a small man.
In several movies, I've seen where people carrying a Thompson would tape 3 magazines together. The 2 on the outside were oriented opposite to the one in the middle. This meant they could reload very quickly by just ejecting the expended magazine, flip them over and insert a fully loaded magazine. Admittedly, that adds a lot of weight, but gives you 90 rounds of almost continuous fire. Comment?
In 1968 I went to Navy boot camp. We were issued Springfields that had been filled with lead to approximate the weight of the M1 Garand. We did our rifle qualifications using the Garand. While I didn't shoot very well, I rather liked the Garand.
Great job Jonathan Ferguson, keeper of Firearms and Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in the UK, keep it up!
He keeps saying both "Gárand" and "Garánd." 😆 It's funny. I do that, too.
Always love it when Brits upload videos on firearms. Something about the presentation I just love. Not to mention they are actually decent shots and value marksmanship over theatrical bs.
It's crazy to imagine a timeline where the WW2 US forces carry around a Luger as their standard issue sidearm.
I hadn’t even thought of that, that really is a bit bizarre!
What does NFC mean on the target Notts County FC?
Why did production add in a simulated tinnitus sound after firing rounds? Unnecessary since I already have that going on…
Do you also complain about that sound in movies?
@@Imso3vil89 yes, I always mute those scenes but that’s for dramatic effect within a movie. Seems over the top for a UA-cam video is all I’m saying. Black Hawk down is almost one long screeeeeeeechhhhh. 😂
You forgot rapid reload when it comes to the 1911 vs revolver debate. It only takes a few seconds to change magazines in a 1911 vs reload a revolver.
There are revolver clips or "rings" for quick loading but I have absolutely no idea whether they were invented before or after that time 🤷♂️
What about M 1 carbine ? M 3 grease gun ? ? 🤔😉
Snipers don’t generally “sniper duel” like the movies. At least between two equally skilled snipers (vs some yokel or teenager with a scoped rifle, they’re toast) You’ll keep yourself safe, get as close as you reasonably can to the point where you’re pretty sure you know where they are, and call on artillery or air support to turn their entire surroundings into concrete confetti.
Either the sniper dies or retreats, and the normal infantry can advance safely and secure the area. Rinse and repeat until you win the war
1) US Maines held on to the M1903 so long because they initially rejected the M1. It wasn't until the front line troops demanded Garands after sampling ones "borrowed" from the Army on Guadalcanal that they revered position.
2) Every Army Rifle Squad had a designated grenadier. Problem was that the M1 grenade launcher ran into problems and wasn't adopted until late in WW2. Some grenadiers were carrying M19003s to launch grenades as late as the Okinawa campaign.
3) The M1903 IS a Mauser. The US had to pay Mauser a license fee and a royalty for each rifle manufactured after it lost in court. Even in WW1 the US continued paying royalties - into a special bank account that held the payments until after the war
4) The British had the opportunity to adopt the M1, but - after trials - rejected it.
5) Thompson - shown is either a M1 or M1A1 -simplified for production purposes - that did not accept the drum magazines (heavy, awkward and difficult and time consuming to reload). The original gun, the M1921 sold so poorly that only one batch was made and Auto-Ordnance was still selling M1921's updated to M1928's (forward pistol grip replaced by horizonal one and some simplification) until 1939, when the contracts rolled in (along with those lovely Pounds and Francs) from France and Britain (who took over the French contracts).
6) By mid-WW2 the US Army issued a submachine gun (M1 or M3) to Rifle Squad leaders.
The irony of "what a sound" during the garand segment, while seconds before I turned it all the way down because of the war-movie tinnitus EEEEEE
7:09 The expert hasn't factored in the one in the chamber. A Colt 1911 with factory mag holds eight rounds of .45 not seven. Also, consider the military is only using ball ammo, nothing fancy like hollow points.
Eight rounds of .45 in semi-auto with a dream trigger is in another world comparable to a .38 revolver.
Luke! ManAfacturer? Eeesh. Minor blip on an otherwise informative and entertaining video. Nice work otherwise.
The 1911 has one horrible design flaw - the hammer. When gripping the pistol tightly, to ensure that the grip safety is compressed, the web of the hand rides up the back of the grip past the beavertail, and comes in harm's way from the hammer spur in recoil. That means a bloody wound in battlefield conditions, leading to infections and partial incapacitation of the shooting hand. Absolutely idiotic. The Commander-style hammer is really a mandatory replacement item on a 1911. Having said that, I'm a great fan, and own 5 - one of which my father brought back from the war, and one newer, double-stack, that solves the capacity problem.
As for the 9mm vs. .45 ACP wrangle, to say that the higher velocity round is preferable - often on the grounds of its possessing a flat(ter) trajectory - strikes me as absurd. The short sight radius of a pistol, combined with its marginal muzzle energy, makes it a short-range weapon. Notions that you'll be shooting enemies across a football field in combat are hallucinations - so trajectory is irrelevant. Big holes in the enemy are far more important. The switch to 9mm was clearly motivated by commonality with NATO, magazine capacity, and recoil aversion of smaller-statured soldiers. And penetration has never really been an issue with .45 ACP.
And as for the Garand, I personally like it, having trained with it, but my uncle - a Marine who fought in Okinawa - recounted to me that the 1903 Springfield was often preferred by Marines over the Garand - perhaps because they trained on them, or felt that a bolt-action was intrinsically more accurate - and that many, given the opportunity, traded their Garands for 1903s in the hands of other troops. I don't own a Springfield, but I do have the reputed pinnacle of bolt-action smoothness, a .303 Enfield, and a semi-auto is most definitely preferable in a firefight to a bolt action, as is obvious from current military practice worldwide.
Minor side note: the term "trench broom" was first applied to the Winchester model 1897 shotgun, rather than the Thompson, which came later. In fact, the Germans in WWI protested the use of shotguns (!) as too destructive to qualify as legitimate weapons of war. SMH.
I very much enjoyed your video; my investing the better part of an hour in this busy world speaks very well for your content and presentation. Nicely done. How did you resist the temptation to shoot everything yourself???
M1 Garand....such a beautiful weapon. That puppy kicks like a mule though. I joined the Army in 1984 & we had M16A1's. My buddy had a Garand & we cooked off a few hundred rounds at the range with it. I LOVED it. Load it with your palm, NOT your thumb....unless you didn't like having thumbs.
As far as magnification for a sniper scope goes , remember that you would be hard pressed to find a platoon of American soldiers without some of the riflemen not having had a rifle in their hands since childhood, meaning that some of them would have been expert shooters before the army ,or marine corps 👍
I don't know how to explain this. Is there a way you guys could "equalize" the audio levels from "narration" and "range narration"? When Mr. Ferguson is talking in the range it has a lower volume and, watching this at night, I'm constantly upping and lowering my volume so I don't wake up a monster, I mean GF.
The USA and Germany were the best in WW2 small arms.
Sure the Russian PPSH comes to mind but, most of their stuff was just decent. Mosin makes a decent rifle, PPSH a good bullet hose, etc.
But, the Garand was without question, the best main battle rifle of any WW2 participant. The Thompson, BAR, Grease Gun (basically an American MP40 but in .45ACP), the M1 carbine, 1911.
Germany had a slow firing but classic bolt action rifle but towards the end of the war, there were lots of Gewehr 43's, STG's,Volks Sturm Gewehrs, Mp38, mp40, P-38's, Lugers, and what really shines are the German MG-34 and MG-42.
No m1 carbine and the BAR damn
Back in the good old days in America, prior to the 1934 gun control act, (a result of Chicago ne'er-do-wells using the "Tommy gun" for nefarious purposes) and due to lack of U.S. military interest in his invention, Thompson attempted to market his guns to western ranchers, I saw an advertisement poster featuring a cowboy-type fending off a pack of marauding wolves with a Thompson.
Perhaps you should have mentioned the M3 .45 greece gun, the 1918 30.06 BAR, the 1917 .45 Colt / S?&W Revolvers., .38 COLT VICTORY / S&W Military and Police Revolver..All US weapons used in combat in WW2
To you , my cousins across the Atlantic.: I am half Yankee and half Wanker...Just call me 'Yanker..'.....Nicely done with this vid 'Tommy'.....Nicely done. My Grandfather and Great Grandfather would be proud!!! - Cheers - "Doc"
Great video I enjoyed it immensely, I think you could lose the music though, maybe do a follow up with the grease gun, M1 carbine, BAR.
As far as a bolt action this Yank would actually prefer the smoothness, capacity, and battle handiness of the MK III SMLE, cheers!😊
So I know the 1911 is technically not the U.S. Military's main side arm BUT I personally know a few people who still use it and haven't been told differently.
My cousin is a SEAL and has been in the teams for over 10 years so obviously no one's gunna fuck wit him about his side arm but WHAT ABOUT EVERYONE ELS???! He told me unless you fuck up some how your command probably won't ever care.
6:20 and today.... thats something we WANT!!!
we want to be able to "thoughtlessly" draw and flick the safety off (which is why pistols like the Glock have no safety... or others have a little "blade" in the middle of the trigger)
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if you are drawing a pistol.... that means you intend to shoot (because simply threatening/brandishing is illegal.... and also just stupid)
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idk... when hunting i NEVER carry a round in the chamber.
my dad always +1s.... and just leaves the bolt up
however... be both dont use the safety (we trust it, its mechanically sound design, and can even lock the bolt ONLY from moving back, but still up and down.... or lock it 100% in all directions)
but its just in a crappy spot (we both have Ruger M77 Mk2 rifles.... his in 270, mine is 30-Hate)
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however.... if i carried a 1911.... i 100% would carry it "cocked and locked"
the ADDED grip safety gives me confidence to carry it "cocked and locked"
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you have 3 things you need to do....
press trigger + grip safety + normal safety
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while my method of carrying a bolt action requires a LOT of movement...
my dads only requires 1 "slap" + a trigger press. (which is why i dont like it)
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however.... if im expecting to see deer over this next ridge/close range..... im chambered and ready to go.
if im moving through brush... ill flick on the safety... but normally i just cover the trigger guard and keep "my booger hook off the bang switch"
Re Colt 1911-A1 (which I carried and used) could be carried safely with 7 in magazine and 1 in chamber, giving 8 rounds. This was not normal carry though and only if contact was inevitable. Also, reload with a semi auto pistol like this was far faster than a revolver. Changing magazines was fast. Revolver sped loaders were not common and required a lot of practice. They were still slow and unreliable for the average military/police person compared to a magazine in a semi-auto. The other BIG advantage is you could very quickly reload a semi auto at any point. With a revolver reloading, a partially used wheel meant you were throwing rounds on the floor. With the semi auto you usually, with pre-emptive reloading, stuffed the magazine and unused rounds back in your pocket to top up later.
Re the stopping power. In the past body armour was not common so a .45ACP would go into the first (human) target and stop there causing a lot of damage. It was less likely to go through to hit something else. Important for police, counterterrorist, recce, and similar scenarios. You hit the target you are aiming at, not something else behind. But when it hits, the target will go down,
I own all of these, PLUS, and M1917 Eddington Enfield, an M1898 Krag, an M1 Carbine and an M14.(plus an M1918 BAR!) the Thompson was supposed to be a “Trench Sweeper.”
On A Colt 1911/11A1 if you chamber A Round Of f Ammunition, then replace the round that is ithe chamber, you have 8 Rounds, not 7.
4:24 i think a TON of people are gonna miss the significance of the "forward serrations" on the slide
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their is NOTHING new under the sun.....
people think having forward serrations is tacti-cool these days, but it was done in the 1900s/EARLY 1910s
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even 1950s cars had automatic climate control (aka, set temp for 72 degrees.... and it blends AC and heat automatically to sustain the set temp)
(im a mechanic... this was the first example i could think of)
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still... with no rear serrations.... you have to place you hand OVER the ejection port
so if you have a malfunction... you may make it worse by "bouncing" the round back into the pistol
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idk, maybe im wrong and the pistol is EVEN longer than i think it is......
but it sure looks that way to my 6 foot 5 hands lol
Including a B.A.R would have been interesting😁
The British are much better at banning guns than to make and design any good ones, at least at reasonable prices. All the best gun designing talent such as John Browning , Eugene Stoner, Ruger etc etc would have their future dead ended in England, they might finish their career working in a machine shop? Americans learned fast after WW1 and their infantry weapons are clearly superior to the British. A 1911 auto may only have a couple of round advantage, but you can reload it three times for the time it takes to reload a Webley. A double action auto such as the P38 give the option of a long trigger pull or short one. I never use the safety on a P38. But I feel Glock should have a safety like the fast access of the 1911. As the shooter get older, they tend to prefer the 9mm rather than the 45 , it is easier on their wrist. The extra capacity will overcome the less stopping power.