Sprung up ? The Chinatowns in Sydney and Melbourne have been there for at least a century, in one form or another. Granted, they weren't terribly popular with xenophobes, but that was before Australians became more widely travelled. I still prefer the Australian version of 'Chinese food' to anything I've encountered in Asia. Even in a Thai city dominated by Chinese Thais, and awash with Western tourists, I had to do some digging to find a restaurant that made 'sweet and sour pork' the way they do in Australia. The British left us with very little in the way of a culinary tradition (whatever foodies today may claim) and without Indian, Thai and Chinese cooking we would be a much poorer country.
my canto is at hsk6 - 12 years old. but if I speak hk cantonese, Im at native fluency. My Mandarin is at hsk7-9. Native like proficiency I spend half a decade looking for my identity after I left the mainland even though Im a abc. my inner child always catches up to me
Your cantonese and Mandarin is much better than mine haha! My Cantonese is like 2 year old and i'm a beginner mandarin learner - I feel like when you know how to speak your native language you feel more closer to your cultural heritage
@@anomie1000 people don’t believe I’m Abc. Because my accent is on point. They think I’m hker or Chinese. Yeahs . I learned the language for 1.5 years. It’s because I love my heritage first that I learn the lanauage. Not the opposite way 😂
@@anomie1000 but learning the language gets you accepted. And you get discounts by aunties and uncles. In fact most abcs won’t like dating other abcs because they don’t want to deal with tiger moms. And also cause they don’t know Chinese. Me, the aunties and uncles love me. That’s why usually they go for someone who is completely outside their ethnic group because the other ethnic groups don’t have the same culture. I dig into the culture and know it better than the uncles and aunties actually.
@@anomie1000 there is a lot of generational trauma in our community. I’m their last link to their country and home when I speak Cantonese or mandarin. Discounts and free food everywhere. Like the son they never had.
Lived my life in Australia, Japan and HK but have parents who are from the mainland. Ironically I identify much more with being Australian the last 10 years living in Japan and HK as I've always been put in a position to represent Australia and the Australian way of life not just amongst my Japanese community but also the expat community. Returning to Australia has been a somewhat of a reverse culture shock as most Asian Australians I've witnessed identify themselves by their ethnicity and do not seem to feel or act Australian at all. This is in stark contrast to my Asian American or Asian Canadian community who's as American or Canadian as any other ethnicity in north America. Which raises the question are Asian Australian segregated within the Australian society?
interesting question! I do think there are Asian suburbs in Australia where many Asian people live so naturally that would have created their own Asian Australian culture and community
Being 3rd generation Australian, I would argue that this is in fact the reverse, where I found that being in the USA, race and ethnicity is much more prominent as identities are they are in Australia. I never really heard the term “Asian Australian” until watching American UA-cam videos such as Fung Bros etc. Certainly over time, perhaps the influence of US culture, the idea of race identities may become more prominent in Australia, but at least in my life as an Aussie, this is something I’ve never noticed (I’m in my mid 20s).
@@Cozident I agree that the term "Asian Australian" is not something you hear too often in Australia and likely brought into more mainstream attention due to popular Asian content creators in the US but having lived in Japan for the last 5 years I've been identified by all kinds of people as Asian Australian, it is so common that the term wouldn't ever bat an eye. I think the conversation surrounding race and ethnicity is much more prominent and openly discussed in the US whereas the issue is kind of swept under the rug, ignored & disregarded in Australia
@@garyp7051 Interesting with the "swept under the rug, ignored and disregarded" point. My impression of it was that this is the way it should be, as I despise constant reminder of being grouped into "Asian-American, Asian-Australian" etc. However, I would say that it is definitely a case of "experiences may vary", and indeed varies depending on the specific Asian country from which your heritage comes. For example, my background is Vietnamese and my family came here with my grandparents' generation, having been sponsored to work as civilian personnel in the Royal Australian Air Force. So there is that natural acceptance, and being immediately integrated and surrounded into/by Anglo/European Australian society. This is paired with the fall of the South Vietnamese homeland; in my circumstance, there is little-to-no connection to current day Vietnam due to historical familial trauma (South Vietnam is very much my heritage). I feel that this is similar for other Vietnamese Aussies whose families immigrated around the same time, in which I feel we more naturally relate with other traditional Anglo/European descendant Aussies and Vietnamese/South-East Asian but are disconnected from those of Chinese background. Curious to hear other thoughts though. As I said, it's hard to say there is a uniform Asian experience in Australia which is why I stated "experiences may vary".
@@Cozident I think the whole race reminder can be both affirmative or negative. In a way yes I do not need to be reminded of my ethnicity as a premise of getting to know someone all the time but at the same time one's heritage cannot be ignored or hidden, it forms part of who you are whether you want to admit it or not. Interesting to hear how the whole experience shapes one's position on this topic and clearly well-assimilated members of Australian society will always face less or no segregation whatsoever which is evident in any society. I grew up part of my childhood in western suburbs of Sydney with a vibrant Vietnamese neighborhood and partially in wog and anglo communities. My lived experiences as a child in Australia include experiencing racism from other Asians in Asian schools and experiencing privilege in Anglo schools. As a result of my own lived experiences, I feel a complete disconnect with most people of Vietnamese or Chinese heritage in Australia and my close mates are expats from Germany and the UK. I'm well aware my experience as a 2nd gen Chinese Australian do not reflect majority of my asian peers in Australia so like you said "experiences vary". However, it is my observation of fellow asian peers (most but not all) which has brought my attention to this matter. I think the lack of dialogue whilst effective in skirting around the uncomfortable topic of race does not help with the process of inclusion which Australia is trying to portray
How many Chinese can speak a Chinese language in Australia? Or in the West for that matter? Not many. How many Australians can speak English growing up in China or other Asian nations? Virtually all. It is all about discrimination, propagated by the people (in the west) as well as the western media.
This place is completely incompatible with me. Coming from one of the 1st tier cities in China, I really wished that my parents never had the annoying thought of immigrating here.
I left mainland as well. I spend half decade and more trying to find my roots. They took me out from asia. And I went identity crisis mode. I wish we never lefted either.
Nothing stopping you going back to China comrade! 5.5% of Australia's population has Chinese ethnicity, most of these Aussies are grateful to live in an affluent, free country.
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Sprung up ? The Chinatowns in Sydney and Melbourne have been there for at least a century, in one form or another. Granted, they weren't terribly popular with xenophobes, but that was before Australians became more widely travelled. I still prefer the Australian version of 'Chinese food' to anything I've encountered in Asia. Even in a Thai city dominated by Chinese Thais, and awash with Western tourists, I had to do some digging to find a restaurant that made 'sweet and sour pork' the way they do in Australia. The British left us with very little in the way of a culinary tradition (whatever foodies today may claim) and without Indian, Thai and Chinese cooking we would be a much poorer country.
The food here in Aus is soooo good! thanks for watching!
what the fuck?
Also, please add that in Australia, the number of students taking an Asian language has dropped significantly, especially in the past 10 years.
my canto is at hsk6 - 12 years old. but if I speak hk cantonese, Im at native fluency. My Mandarin is at hsk7-9. Native like proficiency
I spend half a decade looking for my identity after I left the mainland even though Im a abc. my inner child always catches up to me
Your cantonese and Mandarin is much better than mine haha! My Cantonese is like 2 year old and i'm a beginner mandarin learner - I feel like when you know how to speak your native language you feel more closer to your cultural heritage
@@anomie1000 people don’t believe I’m
Abc. Because my accent is on point. They think I’m hker or Chinese. Yeahs . I learned the language for 1.5 years. It’s because I love my heritage first that I learn the lanauage. Not the opposite way 😂
@@anomie1000 but learning the language gets you accepted. And you get discounts by aunties and uncles. In fact most abcs won’t like dating other abcs because they don’t want to deal with tiger moms. And also cause they don’t know Chinese. Me, the aunties and uncles love me. That’s why usually they go for someone who is completely outside their ethnic group because the other ethnic groups don’t have the same culture. I dig into the culture and know it better than the uncles and aunties actually.
@@anomie1000 there is a lot of generational trauma in our community. I’m their last link to their country and home when I speak Cantonese or mandarin. Discounts and free food everywhere. Like the son they never had.
@@Willxdianayes I defs agree when other people realise u can speak their language, they are so friendly to u haha
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Lived my life in Australia, Japan and HK but have parents who are from the mainland. Ironically I identify much more with being Australian the last 10 years living in Japan and HK as I've always been put in a position to represent Australia and the Australian way of life not just amongst my Japanese community but also the expat community.
Returning to Australia has been a somewhat of a reverse culture shock as most Asian Australians I've witnessed identify themselves by their ethnicity and do not seem to feel or act Australian at all. This is in stark contrast to my Asian American or Asian Canadian community who's as American or Canadian as any other ethnicity in north America. Which raises the question are Asian Australian segregated within the Australian society?
interesting question! I do think there are Asian suburbs in Australia where many Asian people live so naturally that would have created their own Asian Australian culture and community
Being 3rd generation Australian, I would argue that this is in fact the reverse, where I found that being in the USA, race and ethnicity is much more prominent as identities are they are in Australia. I never really heard the term “Asian Australian” until watching American UA-cam videos such as Fung Bros etc. Certainly over time, perhaps the influence of US culture, the idea of race identities may become more prominent in Australia, but at least in my life as an Aussie, this is something I’ve never noticed (I’m in my mid 20s).
@@Cozident I agree that the term "Asian Australian" is not something you hear too often in Australia and likely brought into more mainstream attention due to popular Asian content creators in the US but having lived in Japan for the last 5 years I've been identified by all kinds of people as Asian Australian, it is so common that the term wouldn't ever bat an eye. I think the conversation surrounding race and ethnicity is much more prominent and openly discussed in the US whereas the issue is kind of swept under the rug, ignored & disregarded in Australia
@@garyp7051 Interesting with the "swept under the rug, ignored and disregarded" point. My impression of it was that this is the way it should be, as I despise constant reminder of being grouped into "Asian-American, Asian-Australian" etc. However, I would say that it is definitely a case of "experiences may vary", and indeed varies depending on the specific Asian country from which your heritage comes. For example, my background is Vietnamese and my family came here with my grandparents' generation, having been sponsored to work as civilian personnel in the Royal Australian Air Force. So there is that natural acceptance, and being immediately integrated and surrounded into/by Anglo/European Australian society. This is paired with the fall of the South Vietnamese homeland; in my circumstance, there is little-to-no connection to current day Vietnam due to historical familial trauma (South Vietnam is very much my heritage). I feel that this is similar for other Vietnamese Aussies whose families immigrated around the same time, in which I feel we more naturally relate with other traditional Anglo/European descendant Aussies and Vietnamese/South-East Asian but are disconnected from those of Chinese background. Curious to hear other thoughts though. As I said, it's hard to say there is a uniform Asian experience in Australia which is why I stated "experiences may vary".
@@Cozident I think the whole race reminder can be both affirmative or negative. In a way yes I do not need to be reminded of my ethnicity as a premise of getting to know someone all the time but at the same time one's heritage cannot be ignored or hidden, it forms part of who you are whether you want to admit it or not.
Interesting to hear how the whole experience shapes one's position on this topic and clearly well-assimilated members of Australian society will always face less or no segregation whatsoever which is evident in any society. I grew up part of my childhood in western suburbs of Sydney with a vibrant Vietnamese neighborhood and partially in wog and anglo communities. My lived experiences as a child in Australia include experiencing racism from other Asians in Asian schools and experiencing privilege in Anglo schools. As a result of my own lived experiences, I feel a complete disconnect with most people of Vietnamese or Chinese heritage in Australia and my close mates are expats from Germany and the UK. I'm well aware my experience as a 2nd gen Chinese Australian do not reflect majority of my asian peers in Australia so like you said "experiences vary". However, it is my observation of fellow asian peers (most but not all) which has brought my attention to this matter.
I think the lack of dialogue whilst effective in skirting around the uncomfortable topic of race does not help with the process of inclusion which Australia is trying to portray
How many Chinese can speak a Chinese language in Australia? Or in the West for that matter? Not many.
How many Australians can speak English growing up in China or other Asian nations? Virtually all.
It is all about discrimination, propagated by the people (in the west) as well as the western media.
This place is completely incompatible with me. Coming from one of the 1st tier cities in China, I really wished that my parents never had the annoying thought of immigrating here.
@@grandiora oh sorry to hear that… but im sure there also upsides to living in aus too?
I left mainland as well. I spend half decade and more trying to find my roots. They took me out from asia. And I went identity crisis mode. I wish we never lefted either.
Nothing stopping you going back to China comrade!
5.5% of Australia's population has Chinese ethnicity, most of these Aussies are grateful to live in an affluent, free country.
@@Willxdiana You have the absolute freedom to return to Communist China if Australia is not to your satisfaction.