Replicating the “Impossible” Odysseus Arrow Shot | MythBusters Jr.
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2019
- Allie, Elijah, and Rachel use a compact bow to try and replicate the impossible arrow shot from the Odyssey.
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Things from the myth/legend you forgot to mention: Odysseus had a 'special' longbow only he could string, and he was stronger than any other man in his kingdom. His wife obviously knew this, and therefore knew only her husband would be able to pull off this feat.
Out of curiosity, did the myth mention anything about the distance between the axes?
Is there an estemation on how many people lived at Ithaca(sp?)
@@StoneTitan i've had to translate the text for school, and i don't think the distance between the axes was mentioned. I could be wrong though, it was over a year ago.
@@jsjwhwh
makes sense, I didn't expect a distance mentioned but hoped it were, If for instance the distance was greater than the length of the arrow that would be interesting.
@@StoneTitan i just looked up the text and it definately doesn't mention the distance
@@StoneTitan I can't find anything on either question.
The book is talking about the eye of the axe, which is hole the handle goes through. Not a round loop off the top.
Why isn't this comment more appreciated?
To be honest, the axes are basically just for show, it's just about the ring
Spot Trooper makes a great point, those rings are definitely way larger than the hooks on the bottom would be. Not to mention the fact that those look like a fantasized version of a dane axe and don’t have nor need hooks
In Russia it was firing trough wedding ring and into the edge of a dagger to split the arrow so it woudn't kill the person holding both. I don't think it is such a big problem if the hole is big enough for an arrow to go trough.
@Spot Trooper True, you get a point.
I swear, Adam’s reactions have always been 100% candid and pure. He really stays on the show for the love of science.
Mythbusters crew: wants to test a ancient myth and prove if it is possible
Also mythbusters crew: Uses a modern bow and avoids the archer’s paradox like a boss 😎
Mythbusters has always done things to make something happen, the reason they use the current set up is mostly because it is reliable. Testing it with ancient bows and people isn't, because there is a slim possibility that it could work if every condition is correct like with a compound bow and machine. If a human can replicate that its confirmed
Wdym Archer’s Paradox?
@@jolly3257 best explanation of the archer's paradox i know of ua-cam.com/video/O7zewtuUM_0/v-deo.html
4:25
Me: Reads the word "possible" in the comment I'm replying on
Mythbusters Jr. group: Says "plausible" at the exact say time I read the word "possible"
Me: *Mind blown*
The Corrider Crew actually did this without a machine
Glad I wasnt the only one who realized that
yup! thats what I said too, haha
thank god i wasn't the only one to know
Was looking for this comment, and two guys did it in like one or two attempts.
That's exactly what i was thinking when they said "it's never been attempted"
Expectations rise every second, and chances of disappointment increase exponentially
^Truth
No record? Corridor Digital did it on camera a long while ago. And they didn't use machines.
I know right. However, you could argue that the rings they had to traverse were not metal and if I recall correctly, often times the axes because they weren't metal moved.
The shot was clean
Have them try again, but with metal axes
Idk but theyve said in the vid that they chose not to use metal because it could cause junkiness if the shot was wrong. But if you rewatch the vid it looks clean even though the arrow sometimes hit the ring that just cause it to bouncs and continue
Wedaw Cute agreed. They did it with out hitting the axes much at all
Adam's "WHAT?!" and reaction at 3:27 is one of the best from him i've ever seen. Like, legitimately confused, excited, terrified, and happy at the same time. Love it.
they took mythbusters and replaced one of the co-hosts with kids... I don't get it, the point was that jamie and adam's personalities clashed and that they had different perspectives and ways to tackle the myth.
The point is that they can milk some more money out of a well established and very popular series without having to pay for a real cast.
Kids' derivative show, for educational purposes mainly.
Jamie and Adam do not like each other and have stated that they would never work with each other again.
In my opinion this was probably done to get more money by including half naked women or girls..very sad to see the ideology of today's businessmen
@@interestingworld01 what are you talking about
Love how these kids have an opportunity to peruse science. I remember loving science in middle school because of one teacher, but with no resources, guidance, or support to follow through with that love killed my chances of ever pursuing science any further. So when I see these kids I’m happy that they will get a chance to make science cool for the next generation.
I loved shows like this when I was a kid. If I was still a kid today, I would be obsessed with this show.
It was actually done already by a group of UA-camrs called Corridor Crew xP
FoxyOwl Gaming lol I just commented something like this
I was just gunna say that
Took the words out of my mouth
Beat me to it
Yep, and they did it without machines and computers.
Odysseus would have had to compete with the archers paradox, which their compound bow heavily negates.
So many people comment that Corridor Digital did this last year. However, there are a few things to note:
1. Corridor had larger holes which were not metal. If they were, even a slight touch of the arrow (yes, the arrow touched the sides) would've resulted in a failure.
2. Odysseus' bow was the strongest bow ever made (according to the myth) and only he could draw it. A weak bow has naturally a greater projectile drop.
3. „Shooting though axe heads“ is a vague term. Some people cut holes into the axe heads, some add rings. But it is very likely that the holes the shafts are attached to are meant here, and shooting through multiple of those is nearly impossible.
I feel like high bow strength would actually make it harder. Less bow drop, but higher strength bow would mean the arrow flexes way more, making it more likely to hit the sides.
i dont think nikos shot would have done it on metal but nicks shot was perfect and would have totally made it
@@aaronyoung9922 if you look at the slowed down footage on the second shot you see that basically the only thing touching the axes is like the back "feathers" for a split second
I always interpreted the contest description as the hole in the head that the helve fits into, not a ring on the axe head nor a hole cut into the head of the axe. That would make it even more of an impossible task in that hole would be through a solid metal head with virtually no play, and the arrow would have to be launched not only precisely but with enough force to ensure that the speed of the arrow keeps it on as straight a course for as long as possible.
Corridor digital did it, free hand
David H I was about today it but yeah there is evidence of this happening by corridor
And a recurve bow. Though they weren't using metal rings, if you slow the footage down, their arrow bounces off the edges of the rings quite a bit. Were they metal it probably would have deflected enough to fail.
Still impressive, and he pulled it off in 1 shot each so all it would have taken was a few tries to dial in his aim probably, though it would have destroyed quite a few arrows.
Arent those guys the ones who use digital animation and SFX to do crazy stunts and trickshots?
@@diegodevars4618 they have 2 channels. The main one is vfx but their second channel is just a vlog channel. They did the arrow thing on the vlog one. They also don't really do trick shots even on the main channel. Normally more action/videgame vfx shorts
@@AnAveragePanini oh didnt know.... Thanks!
You should have had Olympic gold medalists Mark Nut shoot the arrow
I bet if they had Taylor Jones on he could outrun the arrow
Joseph Nai MARK NUT!
Joseph Nai Mark Nuuuuuuuuuutttt
maregondrako here comes Taylor Jones...
Joseph Nai but the real question is: can a moonball go through those axes
The kids make this horrible to watch.
So dumb. They do it because they don't have to pay kids as much as they pay adults.
@@lanceunderpants who cares about pay, they're cringy as hell.
@nikhil nair well someone has to supervise
Forreal
See I think it just shows how fucking awesome Adam Savage is because you know hes trying to pass on everything he can to these kids because hes good people like that
Don’t move the bow.... move the target and then the tunnel to where the bow wants to be.
To late, what's done is done
Yeah, I feel like that would have been WAY easier.
How would moving all the rings be easier? Lining those up must be a nightmare. Moving the bow is FAR easier than trying to change the direction of ALL those rings' alignment.
@@spamhere1123 yea. Why would you move 12 rings that are lined up already. That's a very strange suggestion. Moving the target is also not the main issue. Besides, that's not the myth. The idea is whether or not it's possible for someone to do this. And judging by that high speed, even with near perfect relocation, they still barely pulled off a miracle shot
spamhere1123 lasers, boards, doweling or a common base platform would have made that super easy since there are common touchable alignment points. The reason the bow was hard to align was because it doesn’t have anything that perfectly aligns with the shot except the arrows flight path which is hard to predict and impossible to hold still and use for alignment.
In the epic, the bow was nigh-impossible to string. Therefore it's a very stiff bow. Thus a very POWERFUL bow for a powerful man. That would make the arc of the arrow launched from it flatter in that range. Then the question on the arrows: how much can they flex before hitting the rings?
Are u Legolas?
@John Smith The stronger the bow the more it should increase the paradox and even going with stiffer arrows will only result in the identical flight as a weaker bow and flimsier arrows. The only way to reduce the paradox would be by stiffer arrows under the same draw weight.
Someone recently made a "repeating longbow" that would consistently knock the arrow in the same way every time and was technically possible to make with the technology of the time, so yes, plausible is a reasonable conclusion.
Not reasonable at all it’s not possible
Most satisfying "one shot wonder" ever. Haven't seen anything go so well on the first try on mythbusters before. Amazing.
Something to keep in mind is that a "Bow-Master" would have likely had thousands of hours of practice and peer review under their belt, or to look at it in another way, today many of us drive cars, we drive them in the rain, snow, wind, we drive them in the day and at night and on roads who's condition sometimes begs the question if they deserve to be called roads and on occasions at speeds that are far far over the rated limits of the roads we drive on, and this is a skill today that we are all adept at and some we can truly say are masters of. In say 4 thousand years when all cars have been AI driven for at least a thousand years the thought that a human of thousands of years ago could drive could very well be the topic of some distant spin-off of this show where they discuss how plausible it could be that primitive humans could do such a task while they themselves are dismissive of the tools of today that we have learned to master.
Arrows flex in flight. It is the flexing of the arrow that is causing it to hit the rings. Compound bows shooting modern arrows can have less flex in them. We now have ratings for the amount of flex an arrow has. They probably chose the stiffest arrow available to shoot in that compound bow.
@@BRyeEUC Most likely, and I suspect this is something that would have been known about back then as well, it could well be likely that the rings were set up in such a way that his bow in his hand with his arrows would have been in tune with the path through them.
That is something I could see a bow master doing and talking about with his wife. Keep in mind this is around the time were we had people able to calculate the diameter of the earth with a fair degree of accuracy by using 2 holes in the ground.
Modern driving skills of humans are way better documented than archery from thousand of years ago was at the time.
@@BRyeEUC Arrows flexing in flight was known to the Greeks. They also knew that the stronger the bow you used to more rigid the arrow had to be to avoid it just folding in on itself. Thus Odysseus' Bow being very strong would have been accompanied by stiff arrows made from a stronger piece of wood. Again as you said stiffer arrows have less flex and a straighter flight path.
@@jakistam1000 The funny thing about documentation is that it tends to have a half life. Now for instance if you want an exercise go and download a driver for a voodoo 2 video card, yes you can still source that ten year old driver, but the number of sources out there for it now has dwindled to almost nothing, and most of them are suspect.
Add to that any documentation done today and in yesteryear's will have a bias, look at say for instance instructional videos from the 50's on how to drive, while much of what you see there is applicable there is much that has changed, and the two things to keep in mind is today we have the vantage point to detect those subtle changes, in a thousand years they may well say "a car is a car, and without AI I don't think they could go over 20 kmph" And they may base that on early car speeds and what ever survived on the topic to that age and was then translation mangled for them to read, watch and listen.
Add to that, a huge amount of our driving instruction is still word of mouth, yes I can download a pdf to find the laws on driving in any state/country in the world, but the actual art of driving, by and large that is a skill that is passed on, teacher to student, via word of mouth while in hands on instruction. People as a rule never document those things that "everyone knows"
I like how people are whining about how they used a machine to test the "Impossible" shot which probably never happened in the first place. How dare they. I'm also curious which of the 16 year olds people were expecting to personally do this.
*cries* look at how they massacred my boy.
Its irritating with all those elf helpers screaming
mukeshinder singh sidhu I assume you are an adult. This really isn’t for adults but for kids
@@AlwaysBolttheBird Even as a kid watching this, I don't like it. It's uncomfortable.
@@timmydirtyrat6015 that's fine not everyone has to like everything but I keep seeing adults comment that they dint like the show. It's not for them
Deipatrous I’m assuming or under 15 or 14
Corridor did it, and plus without a machine.
They used flexible axes, they would fail if they were using real metal ones
@@gamezone7518 might take a bit longer but I doubt it
I 100 pecebt like this because they said this was never done before. Not only did corridor do it but niko did it without hitting any of the axes.
@@YourGam3rJ3RRY yeah, the last shot
This is 2019 but these videos still look like they're from early 2000s, I like it
1:05 one little bump “gives two”😂
You also have to understand that with a longbow or recurve bow, there is what is known as the “archer’s paradox”. The arrow will bend back and forth considerably between the bow and the target making this shot impossible with the technology during Odysseus’ time.
Corridor Crew has done this for real. Specifically Niko
Should have invited Niko from Corridor
Myth Confirmed: Odysseus was real. All hail Poseidon!
Someone from the corridor crew attempted it and succeeded so
They used flexible axes
@@gamezone7518 doesnt matter if you dont hit them as nick did in the video
Adam is like an enthusiastic dad I LOVE IT
When the crew from corridor digital did this a few months ago .. with no static rigs. Just pure skill.
Adam is genuinely too cool man! Like I feel he is actually like this and that enthusiastic IRL!
Everything on mythbusters junior isn’t even a myth, they always do easily doable things
Uh huh. Guess where the "junior" part applies to?
Actually other people did do it. Corridor Crew made this shot
Actually, no they didn't. They cheated in about a dozen different ways, the least of which being the material was foam crap and the apertures they were firing through were massive compared to what they SHOULD be for this challenge. Have you ever even seen the original scene from the movie or read the Odyssey? They didn't even get close.
Just gonna say this has been attempted before, the guys at Corridor Digital did a video on it last June, and didn't use a rig or anything
C_Mike yep. Myth busted long ago
They used flexible axes
@@gamezone7518 Nikko's shot didn't hit any of the rings though when you watch the footage so the flexibility doesn't really matter though
@@AnAveragePanini checked rn, it did touch the rings on multiple occasions, just not as hard as the other guy's arrow. Who knows, how it could behave in different conditions.Their result would've been much more solid with metal rings, without any complaints.
Adam's crew invited that old guy, and i have seen him hit a ridiculously small and moving target on a SmarterEveryDay video. He's actually crazy with a bow and even he has failed.
Can we appreciate how The mythbusters make our day and take alot of time making it?
With a quick UA-cam search I've found a video of people not only attempting this but successfully doing it.
The guys at corridor digital already did this on their 2nd channel.
The problem with this is that Odusseus' bow would've been a long bow style. Long bow arrows are very different from compound bow's in the fact that they are much more flexible in the spine and actually wiggle as they fly. Look up "the archers paradox"
Geez. The myth is about shooting an arrow through a dozen axe handles, not a bunch of empty rings. FAIL
the problem is that Odysseus would've had a recurve bow
The look of surprise on his face after the shot was priceless
Those kids did a great job at recreating that mythological shot. I recently found this video that shows it can really be done by a human.
Wait.. Am I missing something? Where's the Duct Tape?
wouldve enjoy this show more if there is none of these kids screaming
No one cares. Stop watching a show for kids and then complaining about the kids.
Yeah - who wants kids getting excited about science? Not me!
The Archer's paradox on a longbow would make this shot far more difficult
Using a laser beam would have saved a lot of work.
I guess they clearly don't watch Corridor Crew.
ive seen 3 other videos of people doing this. But love seeing how you guys did it from an engineering aspect
Engeenering aspect? Did you not go to school?
@@jj987987987 ment engineer's, i am a college graduate in computers. Dont be hating
@@R3Kyt Well i'm a mechanical engineer, and this thing is no where near problem solving. It's like watching elementary students doing chemistry experiments like it's cooking and tell people what they do is science.
This is only amazing if you are not familiar with the performance of modern compound bows and how accurate and consistent a decent archer can shoot them.
"why would he be a robot?"
Allow me to introduce you to Hephaestus, and his little friend Bubo ...
Just watch corridor crew they already did this
The corridor studio did it by hand with a wooden bow in outside "Legends"!!!
They didn't use metal rings which would have drastically changed the shot, if you watch the corridor video it does bounce of the "axes" if there where metal it wouldn't have worked like that so no they cheaped out also.
The shot in the myth also had people holding the axes, again corridor didn't truly make the shot themselves.
@@zachdillenger5468 you only watched nikos shot then nick didnt hit any of the axes so metal or not it wouldnt have mattered
@@aaronyoung9922 Yes he did, don't lie because you like him.
Corridor was always much closer then, the myth was, they cheaped out
@@zachdillenger5468 went back re watched he taps the middle axe with the arrow flex and the feathers hit the last axe still think it would have been on target metal or not
@@zachdillenger5468 do you have a link to this said video? I would like to see it
This is cringeworthy compared to the original.
This is just as bad as the end of the original series.
I know Jamie is done with TV, but couldn’t they have just let Adam, Grant, Kari and Tory all do the show? Bleh
Corridor has done it without a machine some while ago
That shot was a Golgo 13 level near impossible shot. He was known to hit a terrorist through the windshield of a commercial jet from 2km away with only 1 shot.
yeah but bullets don't wobble in the air like shafts do
@@SavageGreywolf What's this about wobbling shafts?
@@SavageGreywolf
True, that's why even at this super short range this arrow shot was STILL extremely hard.
As for hitting something with a sniper rifle 2km away, the bullet takes a few seconds to even get there. Besides accounting for winds messing with bullet trajectory, he also had to account for punching through the strong airplane windshield glass and still landing the shot in between the terrorist's eyes.
It's like a 90's mythbusters comedy spin-off were Adam has adopted a bunch of kids.
Mythbuster's: Saying they needed a compound bow and a robot for this shot to be Plausible
Niko From Corridor Crew With a regular bow and Himself: "Are You Challenging ME?"
First off people have done this with fake bows with the black tips the corridor crew did
I was gonna say that lol
Caden Hooper I was thinking the same thing
Why would you base your profile off of PewDiePie?
because I can idiot
Nice well done, just one small thing, it was axe handles...
that's what i was thinking, most people who do this challenge either put it on the blade or between them lol. I don't know why no one ever catches this when they are setting it up
I've seen a YT video a while back ago where a bunch of archers made this shot, there was even a noobie among them that made the shot too.
This had been replicated and was perfectly executed in real life without machinery long before this episode came out.
I don't quite understand why they couldn't get the shot. Corridor Digital did this same shot and got it the first try.
I love myth busters but damnit i hate kids. I can't watch this lmao
Then don't watch Mythbusters Jr. and stop crying lmao
Ever Heard Archer's Paradox with traditional bow and not using compound bow ?
What exactly is the archers paradox Google says it is the flexing of the arrow in flight but what i have been told is completely different
@@bluehornet197 Not what a lot of people in this comment section seem to think it is: ua-cam.com/video/jOiCxFbFIEM/v-deo.html&t=
Welcome back Mythbusters 😭 I missed you
Lars Anderson could do this with a recurve bow, blind folded, and jumping into the air.
Sad seeing Adam's reaction without Jamie, I bet he misses him
Not really. The two weren't friends you know.
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That's how I shoot my shot in the DM's
Corridor crew already did this without a machine. Although I still love it when the Myth Busters do it
Didn't corridor crew do it in a video?
Corridor digital did this without any fancy rigs 😂
2:40 "The only character to ever make this shot was fictitious."
Niko and his brother from Corridor Crew: Are we a joke to you?
Someone messed up on the description. It's a compound not a compact bow
"How to kill any show" Just add children as hosts.
Myth confirmed.
Finding Homeric stories to be based on reality, why would one call this a mythological shot? It was an amazing feat and you proved just how amazing it truly was.
This is impressive! And Adam's such a good mentor to these kids!
Penelope owes that machine her hand-in marriage!
The corridor crew did this with no machines and one person did it first try
the arrow needs time to stabilize in flight, you need to be back farther
Odysseus' bow could only be strung by Odysseus with the assistance of Zeus, the same with threading the axe heads. Only Odysseus could make the shot because he was the only one blessed by Zeus to command the bow.
Holy shit, they actually tested the arrow myth. Last Science Channel MythBusters clip I watched was titled “starting a fire using duct tape” but was about Jamie spear fishing with a stick. Alright Science Channel, I see you.
There’s a video by the corridor crew from June 2018 where they already did this
The Corridor guys did a version of this. No robot.
4:13 when your friends laugh at your bad joke so you don't feel bad
Perfect match up with Adam and kids. Need a complimentary show with Jaime and older teens that are snarky but actually know their stuff
Lol you shoud of just invite Lars Andersen
This was done before. Do you guys do no research at all?
All fairness with a 60lbs or more compound bow this is easy. If you have the same force with a recurve or even a barebow or longbow you can do it
Wow. Not only did they not put the bow into Safety mode, they didn't even aim it away from downrange before going to see the target.
Corridor did this
Idk why am i watching this
Saw a lot of ppl talking about Corrider doing this before so I went to watch it. If you honestly believe that what they did was the same as this, you’re crazy. All of the shots that went through hit the foam axes. If they were metal they would’ve bounced right off. They even said as much when they choose to make the axes out of foam.
Dude it didn’t even touch the foam axes so it doesn’t matter they did it without a robot
Joshiamtheone well that’s just a straight up lie. They literally all hit the foam axes.
Longbows have a crazy flex that makes them not fly in a directly straight line, I forget what the effect is called
Corridor digital did this, Niko is the true king
you know a human can do that no problem corridor digital did it the first try
'had a lot of wiggle' yes, that's the way arrows fly, go watch SmarterEveryDay's video on the archer's paradox
"Don't forget the only character to ever make that shot, was fictitious."
The Corrider Crew laughing as a baker makes this "Legendary shot"