We waited as a family 2 and 3/4 hours for an ambulance for my grandfather we ended up giving up and getting a loan of a wheelchair in order to get him to hospital the world has gone mad I genuinely believe so many countries have gone backwards lately it’s depressing
Concert square is a accident waiting to happen. I really dont know what obsesses people to go out with a knife. Go to the park and have a straitner. Divies.
Worst thing is dean that all the “gangsters” we all know the older generation don’t even try and intervene on the kids or it’s just muppets who think they’re hard but could never settle it with fists so think fuck it I’m hard me let me carry a blade. It’s fuckin disgusting mate
I worked with a lad from Huyton......Back in around 2004/5, he got killed by a hit and run driver by the Grafton.... A taxi driver saw the incident and followed the driver so got nicked the little rat.....👏🏼👏🏼 This lads name was Terry Smith....he was from Huyton himself......28 when he died I think.....I was only 19 when he passed away.....I'm 37 now and think what would he be up to now....46 he'd be. RIP Terry Smith. 🙏🏻❤️
@@SaintDomingo1 yeah he was a great lad....we worked together on Longview.....I was an apprentice joiner and he was doing a bit of everything......I used to think he was well older back then but I soon realised how young 28 is. 🙏🏻
@@yobeatthat85 It is crazy how we age like that, isn't it hahah. I lived in Pennard and he lived in Shepton I think. Went to Stocky School in Hillside. Fucking amazing place to grow up as a kid. Everyone was close as fuck.
@@SaintDomingo1 yeah I worked on hillside before Longview......heavy round there kid.....lime grove and all that....used to go for a brekky at the cafe on the row of shops bottom of lime.
It was crazy in town yesterday it was full of hens n stags , concert square was overloaded and saw a fight while no one even stopped it , I just had to get home , hope this fella is ok
I am baffled as to how many people have purely commented on the Police response. I wonder how many actually know what goes on at a potential murder scene? Some of the cars there are armed response vehicles and traffic cars, as those Officers are advanced trauma trained (very similar level to paramedics). As I'm sure they expect the ambulance takes so long, they are sent to save the victims life. They won't remain to conduct an initial investigation as that is not their role. They also will need dog section, to search for any discarded weapons, clothing or other evidence nearby as well as try to track offenders (so 2 at least needed). Search teams to go and look for any evidence nearby along any suspected entry/exit routes (ASAP before any rain washes evidence away). Officers to escort the victim to hospital, one to remain with him, at least 1x to take statements from the ambulance staff, 1x to remain with the ambulance as that then becomes a crime scene also. Further Officers are needed to do house to house enquiries, take witness statements, CCTV and vehicle enquiries. Further Officers to staff the crime scene cordon to ensure no persons compromise it. Ideally a full specialist search team on top of that to search down drains, on rooves etc for the discarded weapon. Forensic teams and detectives also need to attend the scene as well as a Supervisor and a critical incident manager. So from looking at this footage, there actually aren't enough Police Officers there to do all this efficiently and immediately like textbook. Well done to those Officers who were there for setting up their crime scene immediately, beginning an investigation into a potential murder and potentially saving this lads life in the long time it took Ambulance to arrive. And yes, those Officers will be needed elsewhere. So let's blame the person/people who decided to stab someone and take so many resources away from other people who need it, not the Officers who have been prioritised to be sent there to help someone.
I was doing the doors on a relatively quiet night. Some kid got a bit of his ear bit of and his eyeball was falling out. We restrained the guy that did it. 38mins for police to turn up And 61 min for the f@cking ambo to turn up, what a disgrace our country is. Never found out if the kids eye was put back in/saved
1st I've heard, where was that Bill....? Yeah they wait, like Hillsborough and like how Nigel Benn's brother died, there WAS ambulances there but they said it was too dangerous the scene was not closed down yet and the kid 'Andy' NIgel's older brother who he loved and looked up to bled out!
@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 Yeah he died Bill, racists threw him out a window and crashed into a greenhouse severing his femoral artery in thigh! Police said 'There could still be skin heads around' so ambulance that woulda saved his life never got there! Nigel loved him a lot too, his older brother brought over here protecting Nigel like a 'Lion ana Cub' Nigel says.
Hope the lads ok Billy big fella.🙏Typical show of force for an armed injury…then again I watched a house burn with police waiting on fire service. Something not correct in how 999 works and I’m not politically minded. We see things from a better vision when we’ve walked our own troubles owned them and grow through life seeing these same things. Hope the lad and his family are ok. Hope Joe’s doing ok. Bless mate⭐️⭐️🙏🌍❤️✌️
It's because the police station and hospital are on the same road, just goes to show which service gets more funding the police or the hospitals you can tell by the turn out of people great reporting bill, better than the echo
@@bosco1013 still, the amount of police is vastly grater, all I'm pointing out is the police from what I can tell get a hell of a lot more funding than the hospitals (ambulance service) i looked on the maps and it said the nearest one was in Toxteth it's really close mate
Ambulance service doesn't do operations, follow ups with their patients or conduct GP appointments. The police however have to do EVERYTHING in relation to police work. The police do preventative work, investigations, follow ups etc. The ambulance drops their patient off at Hospital and they move onto the next one. Their involvement with an incident is over very quickly. They don't need to see the victim the next day, week, month or year. The police however will be involved for months or even years. So rightly so, they have more funding to be able to do all of that work. Plus the fact the Police receive more 999 calls than any other emergency service. This gives the police the luxury of calling in on other resources when these kind of incidents happen. For example, traffic officers who are there to deal with traffic accidents, not stabbings... neighbourhood teams who's job is crime prevention and anti social behaviour can be called. The ambulance service cant call an NHS orthopedic surgeon out from a hospital to help them. They are completely different jobs, with the ambulance service moving on from an incident almost immediately, so it's very difficult to compare. And to add, from "what you can tell is wrong". NHS funding is greater than Police. Police just move resources and prioritise better.
@@bosco1013, so would you have more police at this scene ? To me, it seems from what you have said the police are in desperate need of a restructure if they have to incorporate all these other side jobs onto their daily routine no wonder crime is spiralling out of control , it seems that as you have previously stated "The ambulance service cant call an NHS orthopaedic surgeon out from a hospital to help them. They are completely different jobs, with the ambulance service moving on from an incident almost immediately," this would be a better layout for Merseyside police , but in the back of my mind I do think most of these jobs are padded out to create jobs within Merseyside police to make sure that next year's budget is spent and over by 10 % to obtain more funding (I have personally first hand seen this)
We waited as a family 2 and 3/4 hours for an ambulance for my grandfather we ended up giving up and getting a loan of a wheelchair in order to get him to hospital the world has gone mad I genuinely believe so many countries have gone backwards lately it’s depressing
Our city has gone down the Swanny
Sad isn’t it 😢😞
Everywhere has 😂
Should be instant 10 years for carrying a knife no remission ,& corporal punishment for killing & wounding with an offensive weapon ...
Are u ptting that last podcast up what u deleted mate? looked good
15 minutes is quick for an ambulance these days unfortunately Bill.
Hope he's ok
The police had been there for at least 10mins before I arrived so I thought it was quite a slow response!!
He would have been faster getting a taxi from lime street😅 hope he is ok
@@xxx-xw8js or a number 10 bus to the Royal 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Concert square is a accident waiting to happen.
I really dont know what obsesses people to go out with a knife.
Go to the park and have a straitner.
Divies.
Worst thing is dean that all the “gangsters” we all know the older generation don’t even try and intervene on the kids or it’s just muppets who think they’re hard but could never settle it with fists so think fuck it I’m hard me let me carry a blade. It’s fuckin disgusting mate
Always 💯
I worked with a lad from Huyton......Back in around 2004/5, he got killed by a hit and run driver by the Grafton....
A taxi driver saw the incident and followed the driver so got nicked the little rat.....👏🏼👏🏼
This lads name was Terry Smith....he was from Huyton himself......28 when he died I think.....I was only 19 when he passed away.....I'm 37 now and think what would he be up to now....46 he'd be. RIP Terry Smith. 🙏🏻❤️
Went to school with Terry. One of the nicest lads ever.
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@@SaintDomingo1 yeah he was a great lad....we worked together on Longview.....I was an apprentice joiner and he was doing a bit of everything......I used to think he was well older back then but I soon realised how young 28 is. 🙏🏻
@@yobeatthat85 It is crazy how we age like that, isn't it hahah. I lived in Pennard and he lived in Shepton I think. Went to Stocky School in Hillside. Fucking amazing place to grow up as a kid. Everyone was close as fuck.
@@SaintDomingo1 yeah I worked on hillside before Longview......heavy round there kid.....lime grove and all that....used to go for a brekky at the cafe on the row of shops bottom of lime.
We're exactly was this
It was crazy in town yesterday it was full of hens n stags , concert square was overloaded and saw a fight while no one even stopped it , I just had to get home , hope this fella is ok
Why didn’t you stop it then
@@Lsi581 yeah ok , about 10 lads fighting, are you for real
It's surprisin how many people Won't leave there comfort zone.
@@andydunkerley8465 I am a girl who was going home I wouldn’t get into a fight with girls never mind a gang of fellas
@@dancingqueen0118 Very Wise.
He would have been quicker jumping on the number 10 bus to the Royal me thinks?...........
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I am baffled as to how many people have purely commented on the Police response. I wonder how many actually know what goes on at a potential murder scene?
Some of the cars there are armed response vehicles and traffic cars, as those Officers are advanced trauma trained (very similar level to paramedics). As I'm sure they expect the ambulance takes so long, they are sent to save the victims life. They won't remain to conduct an initial investigation as that is not their role.
They also will need dog section, to search for any discarded weapons, clothing or other evidence nearby as well as try to track offenders (so 2 at least needed). Search teams to go and look for any evidence nearby along any suspected entry/exit routes (ASAP before any rain washes evidence away).
Officers to escort the victim to hospital, one to remain with him, at least 1x to take statements from the ambulance staff, 1x to remain with the ambulance as that then becomes a crime scene also.
Further Officers are needed to do house to house enquiries, take witness statements, CCTV and vehicle enquiries.
Further Officers to staff the crime scene cordon to ensure no persons compromise it.
Ideally a full specialist search team on top of that to search down drains, on rooves etc for the discarded weapon.
Forensic teams and detectives also need to attend the scene as well as a Supervisor and a critical incident manager.
So from looking at this footage, there actually aren't enough Police Officers there to do all this efficiently and immediately like textbook.
Well done to those Officers who were there for setting up their crime scene immediately, beginning an investigation into a potential murder and potentially saving this lads life in the long time it took Ambulance to arrive.
And yes, those Officers will be needed elsewhere. So let's blame the person/people who decided to stab someone and take so many resources away from other people who need it, not the Officers who have been prioritised to be sent there to help someone.
Are you on the force ?
Fair point Bro
Madness that bill I would be off the hospital quick style of I was stabbed up like that doesn’t mean you have to give any names just get treated mate
He'll have to go, collapsed lung can be very fatal if untreated
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Very fatal lol ,
that's like being a little bit pregnant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Average waiting time of 2hrs for am ambulance these days! Tory Britain for you!
Was in town yesterday proper bad vibe now on a night out. It’s gone backwards going out now
Can't remember last time I went to town, lark lane has a good vibe no idiots there
Excessive amount of police that
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A lad got run over and killed out the back of my house last month ... 20 mins it took an ambulance to arrive !! he was long gone by then
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I was doing the doors on a relatively quiet night.
Some kid got a bit of his ear bit of and his eyeball was falling out.
We restrained the guy that did it.
38mins for police to turn up
And 61 min for the f@cking ambo to turn up, what a disgrace our country is.
Never found out if the kids eye was put back in/saved
Big tip to the wise,,, spot the Dracos👹 befor it's to late.✌❤
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ffs hope he's okay
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That's crazy the amount 5 0 and no ambulance
It’s overload
Loves it billy la
1st I've heard, where was that Bill....? Yeah they wait, like Hillsborough and like how Nigel Benn's brother died, there WAS ambulances there but they said it was too dangerous the scene was not closed down yet and the kid 'Andy' NIgel's older brother who he loved and looked up to bled out!
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@@theallornothingpodcastwith4442 Yeah he died Bill, racists threw him out a window and crashed into a greenhouse severing his femoral artery in thigh! Police said 'There could still be skin heads around' so ambulance that woulda saved his life never got there! Nigel loved him a lot too, his older brother brought over here protecting Nigel like a 'Lion ana Cub' Nigel says.
Someone’s probably farted .
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Same shit different day
Yep unfortunately
Hope the lads ok Billy big fella.🙏Typical show of force for an armed injury…then again I watched a house burn with police waiting on fire service. Something not correct in how 999 works and I’m not politically minded. We see things from a better vision when we’ve walked our own troubles owned them and grow through life seeing these same things. Hope the lad and his family are ok. Hope Joe’s doing ok. Bless mate⭐️⭐️🙏🌍❤️✌️
Does it really need all them police...🤔
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It's because the police station and hospital are on the same road, just goes to show which service gets more funding the police or the hospitals you can tell by the turn out of people
great reporting bill, better than the echo
Ambulances aren't based at Hospitals. The ambulance service & Hospitals are completely separate trusts and separately funded.
@@bosco1013 still, the amount of police is vastly grater, all I'm pointing out is the police from what I can tell get a hell of a lot more funding than the hospitals (ambulance service) i looked on the maps and it said the nearest one was in Toxteth it's really close mate
Ambulance service doesn't do operations, follow ups with their patients or conduct GP appointments. The police however have to do EVERYTHING in relation to police work. The police do preventative work, investigations, follow ups etc. The ambulance drops their patient off at Hospital and they move onto the next one. Their involvement with an incident is over very quickly. They don't need to see the victim the next day, week, month or year. The police however will be involved for months or even years. So rightly so, they have more funding to be able to do all of that work. Plus the fact the Police receive more 999 calls than any other emergency service. This gives the police the luxury of calling in on other resources when these kind of incidents happen. For example, traffic officers who are there to deal with traffic accidents, not stabbings... neighbourhood teams who's job is crime prevention and anti social behaviour can be called. The ambulance service cant call an NHS orthopedic surgeon out from a hospital to help them. They are completely different jobs, with the ambulance service moving on from an incident almost immediately, so it's very difficult to compare.
And to add, from "what you can tell is wrong". NHS funding is greater than Police. Police just move resources and prioritise better.
@@bosco1013, so would you have more police at this scene ? To me, it seems from what you have said the police are in desperate need of a restructure if they have to incorporate all these other side jobs onto their daily routine no wonder crime is spiralling out of control , it seems that as you have previously stated
"The ambulance service cant call an NHS orthopaedic surgeon out from a hospital to help them. They are completely different jobs, with the ambulance service moving on from an incident almost immediately,"
this would be a better layout for Merseyside police , but in the back of my mind I do think most of these jobs are padded out to create jobs within Merseyside police to make sure that next year's budget is spent and over by 10 % to obtain more funding (I have personally first hand seen this)
Hope he’s ok 🙏 but that’s a piss take that many bizzies they way things are in this city am sure most of them will be needed else were
Echo said he’s fine ❤️