People boycotting Halo products will probably lead to Microsoft abandoning Halo altogether and justifying it with "No one's buying it so that must mean the kids must have moved on". And honestly at this point Idk if that's a good or bad thing considering the franchise's state.
I can't help but constantly think of Kat saying: "I know we're losing, I want to know if we've lost." Halo has been dying for a decade now. At this point I'm just waiting for the franchise to end. I'm sad I was never able to experience the glory days of Halo as I was born after the release of Halo 3. My best friend introduced me to this amazing franchise years ago and the best I got to experience from the community was Halo Infinite's release and its ups and downs. It was the first Halo game I got to experience from the beginning, but sadly it didn't bring the series back and was another failure by 343. I stopped keeping track of Halo news last year but decided to come back for a bit to see how things are going and it's clear that nothing has changed. I had hope that Halo Studios would bring new life to the franchise, but that clearly isn't the case. Hopefully one day the franchise will get rebooted and Halo will be a cultural phenomenon once again.
Tbh, I think we just need a new FPS franchise. I am so sick of all these sequels and trash, we deserve something new and interesting. Ain’t no way I am paying $70 for black ops 6, a game that has the worst maps ever, a battle pass, and a microtransaction store even tho the game costs so much money 😂
I was born around the same time as Halo 3 ODST came out and I first started playing Halo right before Covid, I remember during the months of March-August 2020 I beat all the Bungie games and had a blast (I was on Xbox but just so happened to beat them around the same time they came to PC). I also remember how exited I was for Halo Infinite in the months coming up to the game, constantly rewatching trailers and constantly talking about it. Then on December 8, 2021 I went to my local GameStop and purchased a copy of Halo Infinite and when I got home I immediately got onto the campaign and really liked it. I only wish there was more of it
Imo halo 4 was okay ish, i feel like it was just keeping w tye core of halo reach with armor abilities and just adding new vehicles minus the sprint lol. They kept the same armor unlock system similar to h3 and reach where you get armor for ranking up/completing commendations, beyond that it was just a halo game that wasn't all that good but wasn't really all that bad either. Where halo really fucking died was halo 5, because thats when they started changing core aspects of halo such as armor and progression where you have to pretty much gamble to get armor instead of just hitting a certain rank and getting an armor piece, on top of that there was less customization since you only had a body set and a helmet. From that point on halo 5 and the games after that had this feeling where the game more so favored how well the game does through microtransactions rather than how well it does as a fun halo game
will watch the whole thing before leaving a second comment but: Just by the title alone I feel the need to point out: 343i/HS has already killed Halo. Infinite was their last shot and they blew it. The TV show MIGHT've given them a second wind, but it was trash.
There were over 1 million old bungie fans and by todays steam numbers, there are 2000 343 fans. The arguments that were just old bungie lovers, which they use, are totally invalid.
I agree it is, in comparison, dead, but it isn't that dead. Using steam data when halo will always be played by xbox users in the far majority isn't helping us stay consistent. According to the API of MCC and Infinite, Steam/Microsoft Store PC players only take up 6-12% of the total active playerbase, depending on time. This still is very low, but it definitely isn't 2000. It's more like 22,000. You can see this when you get on Infinite in the USA, and you can still find games in most playlists in under 10 seconds. If it was really 2000 players, it would he like Titanfall 2, where you can only find players in one playlist every 20 minutes.
I'd bet my house that the xbox chart numbers would look the same as the steam numbers. So I'd generously add an extra 3k to the tally. Even if you had 10k on xbox, that's still a decline of 99% from its Halo 3 peak. If 343 had the numbers they would be shouting it from the roof tops, but they don't, so they don't. 22k players represents a decline of 97.8%
@DeftTouch Homie, your losing your house, the API is public information. 400,000 unique players have played at least one match of matchmaking on Infinite since the start of 2024.
Culture War nonsense hasn't been an issue SO FAR, but I guarantee these loons will try, like they have with just about every other major franchise you can think of. Sure, there's been a kerfuffle about gay banners and pride bullshit being added while the "New Mombassa PD" banners were removed for "much defund the police" and "muh BLM" bullshit, but those have been fairly insignificant and spread out. More or less harmless, but the signs are still worth noting. At least, I'll be surprised if it isn't an issue going forward, but I probably won't be paying much attention to this franchise anyways.
I can't believe how much the devs have screwed over the Halo franchise in general and yet how much fellow fans like us have actually tried to save it. Ever since Bungie left it has just been in decline. Aside from Halo Wars 2, which wasn't even done by 343 for the most part, the only good content I have seen has come from Halo Modders and the Dig site Team. I am personally a lot more interested in the fan-made titles that are being made, like Installation 01 and Branching Sickness than whatever garbage Halo Studios might try to push on us next. And it's not just FPS games, great groups like Chokepoint Games have made some real high-quality Halo mods over the years for Sins of a Solar Empire, Arma III, Homeworld Remastered, Command and Conquer III, and even Stellaris. Meanwhile, 343 repeatedly failed to live up to expectations and Halo Studios is on track to absolutely screw up what is left. I do want to give a great big thank you to the guys writing the Halo books, that stuff is pretty great. But the Halo show is complete trash. They had so much good lore from the early games and the books and instead they had to go and screw that up to with stuff that didn't have anything in common with any other parts of the franchise.
@@royfolker6856 and thats the problem, i mean yes 343 now halo estudios it's a trash but i have a problem how exist scince halo reach And it's many purist fanboys players of halo 3 hate the run mechanic, and thats the people how always mess the advanced on the comunity try to save halo blame halo 4 for including it, but forguet it was including in halo reach and in the time of halo reach many of that purist atack the game (but now ignoring that fact, and blame halo 4, because reach was the last game made by bungie)
@@linkconparche9771 I don't mind the run mechanic so much, I was a late joiner to the Halo Games myself, but with the Master Chief Collection, I was able to play around with the older games and I really enjoyed them all. The run mechanic was very useful in Reach, but it was also neat in that it was done in a semi-unique way rather than just a copy-paste from COD or something. That particular mechanic was adapted from mechanics in Halo 3 such as the special slot for equipment, which became a slot for equipment with passive abilities such as the jetpack, armor-lock, sprint, and others. I personally preferred this over the newer sprint mechanic, as I think it was better balanced for multiplayer, but I don't really mind the newer one that much.
@royfolker6856 during the release of halo reach Many players hate the mechanic of runing That players are the same guys how representate the comunity (in the u.s area) and they blame for the implemetstion of the runing mechanic I enter late to, i start with the end of reach era and halo 4 era And i still remember the people hate halo 3 odst and halo reach before halo 4 release And that people you are you alied after you defend the runing mechanic And sadly they are the most followed and influenced people on the comunity area I don't like the way how 343 take Make halo cod But, ironicaly, these people, if they take the control, the make a halo 3 again, and again, and again, and blick any try of evolutiom en the franchise And ironically become call of duty But the rest what you say it's true and i agree
They ARE gonna f this up, the visuals they showed look nothing like Halo and show how they really don't understand anything about Halo, the forerunner tower are clean and shiny, Master chief's Armor is plasticky, the energy sword is now a holographic sword for some reason etc. There's also leaks of a competition that took place at 343 where the different dev teams had to show their idea of the ultimate Halo game for the next Halo (after infinite), the artworks resulting from that competition have leaked and they all look horrendous and nothing like Halo, like one team was for a Halo game but with a cartoon/fortnite look and all of the other artworks from other teams were just CoD clone in a Halo setting or hero shooters. I was in shock when I saw that because in those artworks that were supposed to be what 343 teams think would be the ultimate Halo game, you can't even see the Halo design anywhere, like they didn't draw any spartan, just some generic special forces bearded dudes with current day weapons, vehicles and planes. I was like "Ok after 15 years isn't there anyone at this fkin studio who has played the fkin games!!!??" So overall I'm tired of people saying it's the management or Microsoft, because yeah, but the devs working there, just like the guy who tweeted about how pierre hintze, are all ignorant about Halo and really do not care, everytime they try to explain what Halo truly is they are completely wrong ("Master chief is a human with feelings", "Halo is a Highly competitive game in its DNA" and now "Halo is all about graphics and should be the the best looking game") Man how can they be so assertive saying those beyond wrong things. 343/Halo studios is rotten to the core and they should not touch this franchise anymore.
My brother in Christ. Halo is already dead and 343 killed it. Halo Studios is just digging up the corpse in an attempt for one last quick buck. They want to shake every last dollar out of the remaining loyal Halo fanbase before letting the franchise RIP.
As a Bungie fan that has played since CE and has most of my hours on CE, I will say that Halo died when 343i took control of the IP not due to any one game but the collective disdain for Halo as a series along with the loss of passion behind the games.
Halo was only a Bungie title. Anything after is simply some crappy spin-off. Nothing more. Halo ended when Bungie left the series. It is what it is. It was a great run in its prime. I'll never forget those days growing up playing the original trilogy.
It ended when bungie left. I wish they would have just ended it but Microsoft seems to have this thing about killing their games in the worst ways possible
Halo is one of my favorite book series. Can't wait for empty throne. Salute to the modder, forgers and writers that are currently the only reason Halo is doing anything at all.
Being more inclusive isn’t the issue dude. Y’all that keep saying that give gamers a bad rap. It’s the lack of sincerity and continuity (be it narrative or aesthetically.) You should not give a flying fuck if someone making a game is black, a horse or a fucking helicopter. If they do a good job, then that’s all that matters. Halo died with Reach. Halo wars 2 was just a cherry on top but the rest of the series has been a garbage fire. Our favorite series is dead, and 343 killed it. Move on.
Funny enough several comments above yours say that Reach was awful as well and had no rights to exist. Most people don't even accept Reach by Bungie itself. Imagine how crappy the state of the series is if game died so quickly it actually died in the hands of the old studio. MCC isn't the best way to experience the og either, but sadly the only there's for PC. And saving grace is modding there
Ill watch your video cause im interested in hearing the controversy, but honestly i don't think halo is dead or is at risk of being "killed". The mcc pretty much made the entire series accessible for anyone who wants to play it. You can go into any walmart and find halo merch. Regardless of quality, paramount just spent millions of dollars on a halo show. The IP is clearly a draw and is seen as valuable by the people involved, thats why 343 got rebranded in the first place. Dead franchises dont get remakes or new entries. Dead franchises get shut down. Halo may not be where it was 10 years ago, but i still think it is one good game away from being back in everyones good graces and will be for quite some time. The original games give the series so much good will among fans of the series that they could probably bomb for the next 20 years and we'd still probably be ready for the first good game that gets released
Damn for years I've always wanted the original Halo trilogy on Vinyl and these ones look amazing with art from one of the Halo 3 concept artists but damn I love Marty and him directly saying not to buy is such a bummer🥲
Dude. Halo already died after the disaster of 5. Infinite finished it and "Studios" is just gonna parade its body though the streets. I wish I was a billionaire so I could do right by Halo and all other fans by both buying and fixing it, story, sequal, and game play wise. Like Marty said. "Don't kill the golden goose." Well these fools have. A long time now.
Bungie, I love you...however, you really screwed the pooch on Halo. Some fond memories but, that is all it will ever be. Memories.
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At least I'm finally at the stage of acceptance. Just thankful I got to experience the originals in my childhood. All of the laughs and good times me and the boys had in middle/high school will never be forgotten. Spartans never die, y'all.
It's unfortunate that Halo's been on a really dark time. Until we can get people who love the series and make the best of it as it once was before 343 happened, it's going to continue down this downhill problem. I hope the best for the Digsite team for being kind enough to bring us the Halo E3 demo, because they really brought us the piece of gameplay we never got to play until now.
I played infinite, The moment I went into the outdoor sections and saw distorted textures and visual bugs. I quit the game, uninstalled and never touched it again. 1$ wasted on game pass. I want that dollar back.
All I want is for Halo to bring back memorable battles like going against a Scarab, or blowing a Phantom out of the sky! Why are there no more Scarabs in Halo? Parts 4, 5, and 6 just doesn't have large scale enemy vehicles. It doesn't even have to be scarabs, just make something new similar to that scale of conflict.
I'm still a million percent pissed that they just brought the people back from the original trilogy to have them give us the bad news for their failures for so long and it just sucks being a Halo fan now because of 343 also known as Halo studios now they didn't earn any of it like the one guy said and that's why they've destroyed it they wanted to make their changes but what were their changes hiring people that hate Halo to work on it and that has killed the franchise ever since Halo 4 in my eyes it sucks I want to be happy about Halo but I can't because the people making it are making it a mess
I like to think there is a fractures universe where ONLY the Bungie games and the Bungie related media (books, comics, etc) are the only events that ever happened. But that would mean Chief waking up where Requiem is, and not finding out what became of Chief. Terrible implication, IMO.
Pour one out for the Chief. He's been dead since after Halo 3 and the rest of the games have just been a corpo simulation to try and pervert the myth for money I can only hope that my children will be able to enjoy the games, but they'll never know the global hype around the game and how you could talk to nearly any gamer back in the day and one of the games they played was Halo
All I got from the Internet is Microsoft didn't finish all the paid royalties to the composers in 2022. Which there's of course controversy in the situation of the Halo franchises. If Microsoft would be smart to finish the paid royalties though I feel there's false acclaims since it is somewhat paid which indicates certain song for Microsoft is legal and others illegal depending in court. If they finish these paid royalties to the two composers (Marty O'Donnell and Mike Salvatori) with accurate source privately should indicate no falsy acclaims are made. I am really questioning now the sources because huh where are they?
For me, it was halo 4 that signaled the end for halo. 343 comepletly changed everything about the franchise. Their only good game was the master chief collection that i still play. But with all this dei bs, im suprised it aint dead right now. And everyone is gravitating towards the eastern game developers now. I also have this feeling the gaming industry is gonna die in the west pretty soon.
I wish Microsoft would get rid of these people and bring back the original people who created halo.It’s not like they don’t have the money and it’s not like there gone or something.
They’ve been saying this since halo 4. It’s just the cycle. Halo is dead, new game, hype, halo is dead, new game, hype, halo is dead. I’m dead certain it’ll happen for the next game but whatever, they’ll make their money either way
What's with all these companies buying or being handed literal golden goose franchises and choosing to slow roast them instead of trying to get them to lay more eggs. Microsoft is insane for letting Halo fall apart this past decade and choosing to just rebrand now and not actually get rid of the shmucks causing the thing to fall apart. Like rebranding is acknowledging there's a problem, but expressly not fixing it at all.
I hope that they at least have a proper ending to the franchise. If that doesn’t happen, let’s all just say that anything after reach isn’t canon. Cause I don’t want halo to turn into another halflife
I was getting tired of the doom and gloom of what people were saying about the condition of the Halo series, but I realized that Microsoft's and Halo Studio's IP is unstoppable, nobody even cares about Halo no more, reality hit's you like a charged plasma pistol.
halo has been long dead, i was a hardcore fan but i think its time to move on... time for this spartan atleast to be M.I.A retiring for good... its been a good run.
If you don’t think halos already dead then it probably isn’t dead yet. For me, Halo 5 dropped the ball. When forge released the community made the game actually feel like Halo. Mcc was broken for like two years at launch. Even CE anniversary was criticized heavily. Everything 343/Halo studios has done has been a massive failure they rely too heavily on the community to make something playable. It’s about to be 2025, Mcc came out 2014. Nothings changed, the community’s still saying the same shit just now it’s younger heads that probably didn’t even experience the original trilogy in its prime
i could have told you after seeing the halo 4 teaser that its over. if you paid even a dime for anything after reach the state of halo is completely on the fans. ive been saying for years if you want to get back at companies for ruining your franchise you HAVE to stop buying it. i dont know what this fetish is about keeping a clearly dead franchise alive just to complain about it like your thoughts actually make a difference. just let it go guys lol stop paying for it
Oddly enough I have a feeling this studio will be arguably worse than 343 and i really don’t have much faith in pierre, we’ve seen him fix mcc and infinite sure but we’ve never seen him create and direct a halo game from the ground up
Halo Studios ( or 343 ) is killing halo but what digsite did leaking those files also wasn't professional, this will probably be the last time halo studios will trust on any 3rd party group (community based teams )which are literally the only ones that care about halo at this point, 343 needs to leave behind their little shit ego and stop giving bad treatment to old bungie employes that worked on older halo titles and just let them take over in more important roles so that they can fix whatever mess they have at this point.
The story was finished with Halo 3. Sure there was more to tell. But not by anyone else but Bungie. Halo stopped after Halo 3. No, not Reach, that's as canon as Halo 4 onwards and about as full of needless retcons to Bungie lore (Guess who approved those btw.)
hopefully someone who is part of why halo has had its down fall reads this.... youve ruined halo and youve let alot of people down and abuse halo as a brand
i think the best way to hit them, it's stop buying they games or well, only if the game it's sucks, because theres exist at 1% were halo estudios can do a exelent game, but we mess up don't buying it so i recomend just gibed the next halo 1 week, and later make the decision of buy or not buy it pd: NO, RUN MECHANIC IT'S NOT A EXCUSE FOR DON'T BUY THE GAME, HALO REACH HAVE IT TO AND NO ONE HAVE PROBLEM WITH THAT (only halo 3 purist fanboys)
halo studios or aka 343 already did for me... honestly anything past halo reach I consider as fan made projects... with the only decent ones being Halo wars.
Dude I hate the narrative that wokeness is what's killing Halo, it's bad writing, bad game design, and bad storytelling. It has nothing to do with DEI, and it's laughable to blame all of these problems on one person.
As for me I'll wait and see. Already I am not liking the look of things. Since they're switching to UE5 (which iirc is horribly optimized), that means expect performance issues. They still haven't fixed the MCC (which is still in dire need of ironing, The Season 7 and 8 updates which fixed the visuals for CE and slightly improved 2'e shows they have the ability to improve but they won't.
Maybe it's a Microsoft Problem and not halo studios, fix microsoft, fix halo studios right? idk man it sucks if all this is true and holy crap that's not ok for the digsite team to work so much without pay
Understand this once and for all: 343i and Halo Studios are Microsoft. Several former Bungie employees, including Marty O'Donnell, have mentioned that Bungie was seen as a "roadblock" to Microsoft's ideas for the franchise. Many ideas were blocked by Bungie employees. Microsoft has always wanted full control over the franchise, and now they have it.
i played halo 4 a little but had to come back to it years later and have just been watching since mostly. you'd almost think it gave people to much community or hope even lol but really etiher way. The schools got infested Jordan Peterson always talked about it all the gay stuff was the last obvious sign, are institutions fell and these companies are tied apart by jackals snuffing creativity out to safe guard there feeling of power from having to endure change and give that would enable the growth that made these companies what they are from that very creative process being allowed. so much greed intent needs to be drawn from the arrogance, its pathetic and deserves to be publicly acknowledged.
My brother it ended with reach let’s be real.
Facts, reach was the last great halo
i read it as "My brother ended on reach" 💀
true tho
Remember Reach...
Facts.
I only like the Remember Reach comment, because as a true Halo fan, I still like all of the games, just mostly CE, H2, H3, and Reach above all.
5:40 we shouldnt be buying any Halo products. Full stop. Because of how they treated marty and other ex bungie employees.
Treated Marty how?
@tiger_lord305 HaloFollower did a pretty good video on the latest thing. Some months back if you look.
Well thats been easy to do for the past 5 years
All those people are generally gone though, fuck em, then again they probably wouldn’t hire him now since he’s campaigning and shit
People boycotting Halo products will probably lead to Microsoft abandoning Halo altogether and justifying it with "No one's buying it so that must mean the kids must have moved on". And honestly at this point Idk if that's a good or bad thing considering the franchise's state.
Yes 343 2.0 is still 343.
I can't help but constantly think of Kat saying: "I know we're losing, I want to know if we've lost."
Halo has been dying for a decade now. At this point I'm just waiting for the franchise to end. I'm sad I was never able to experience the glory days of Halo as I was born after the release of Halo 3. My best friend introduced me to this amazing franchise years ago and the best I got to experience from the community was Halo Infinite's release and its ups and downs. It was the first Halo game I got to experience from the beginning, but sadly it didn't bring the series back and was another failure by 343. I stopped keeping track of Halo news last year but decided to come back for a bit to see how things are going and it's clear that nothing has changed. I had hope that Halo Studios would bring new life to the franchise, but that clearly isn't the case. Hopefully one day the franchise will get rebooted and Halo will be a cultural phenomenon once again.
Tbh, I think we just need a new FPS franchise. I am so sick of all these sequels and trash, we deserve something new and interesting. Ain’t no way I am paying $70 for black ops 6, a game that has the worst maps ever, a battle pass, and a microtransaction store even tho the game costs so much money 😂
Halo Studios is just 343 rebranded.
@@redditor7548 Believe me, I am well aware.
I was born around the same time as Halo 3 ODST came out and I first started playing Halo right before Covid, I remember during the months of March-August 2020 I beat all the Bungie games and had a blast (I was on Xbox but just so happened to beat them around the same time they came to PC). I also remember how exited I was for Halo Infinite in the months coming up to the game, constantly rewatching trailers and constantly talking about it. Then on December 8, 2021 I went to my local GameStop and purchased a copy of Halo Infinite and when I got home I immediately got onto the campaign and really liked it. I only wish there was more of it
@@pokapoka3686 It's the devs who is the problem, not the franchise
How can they kill what's long dead?
Its a apart of the Flood now
They took “what’s dead may never die” too seriously
Halos been cooked since 4
No. Halo ended as a series when Bungie left. So the last real Halo game is Halo reach. anything after is just a crappy spin-off
Imo halo 4 was okay ish, i feel like it was just keeping w tye core of halo reach with armor abilities and just adding new vehicles minus the sprint lol. They kept the same armor unlock system similar to h3 and reach where you get armor for ranking up/completing commendations, beyond that it was just a halo game that wasn't all that good but wasn't really all that bad either. Where halo really fucking died was halo 5, because thats when they started changing core aspects of halo such as armor and progression where you have to pretty much gamble to get armor instead of just hitting a certain rank and getting an armor piece, on top of that there was less customization since you only had a body set and a helmet. From that point on halo 5 and the games after that had this feeling where the game more so favored how well the game does through microtransactions rather than how well it does as a fun halo game
Cooked since CEA**
@@devonlambert9131 No. Bungie did not make CEA. Thats a bad spin off. Halo games are only made by Bungie. Anything else is a wanna be spin off
@@jdsofar my point exactly
will watch the whole thing before leaving a second comment but:
Just by the title alone I feel the need to point out: 343i/HS has already killed Halo. Infinite was their last shot and they blew it. The TV show MIGHT've given them a second wind, but it was trash.
yeah nah halo is cooked
There were over 1 million old bungie fans and by todays steam numbers, there are 2000 343 fans. The arguments that were just old bungie lovers, which they use, are totally invalid.
This is a decline of 99.8%
I agree it is, in comparison, dead, but it isn't that dead. Using steam data when halo will always be played by xbox users in the far majority isn't helping us stay consistent. According to the API of MCC and Infinite, Steam/Microsoft Store PC players only take up 6-12% of the total active playerbase, depending on time. This still is very low, but it definitely isn't 2000. It's more like 22,000. You can see this when you get on Infinite in the USA, and you can still find games in most playlists in under 10 seconds. If it was really 2000 players, it would he like Titanfall 2, where you can only find players in one playlist every 20 minutes.
I'd bet my house that the xbox chart numbers would look the same as the steam numbers. So I'd generously add an extra 3k to the tally. Even if you had 10k on xbox, that's still a decline of 99% from its Halo 3 peak.
If 343 had the numbers they would be shouting it from the roof tops, but they don't, so they don't.
22k players represents a decline of 97.8%
@DeftTouch Homie, your losing your house, the API is public information.
400,000 unique players have played at least one match of matchmaking on Infinite since the start of 2024.
@@TheDivineImmortals I love the 343 guys. You're all so stupid.
Infinite was close.
Halo's issue isn't culture war nonsense, it's that they keep changing the core gameplay loop that made Halo, you know, Halo.
Culture War nonsense hasn't been an issue SO FAR, but I guarantee these loons will try, like they have with just about every other major franchise you can think of. Sure, there's been a kerfuffle about gay banners and pride bullshit being added while the "New Mombassa PD" banners were removed for "much defund the police" and "muh BLM" bullshit, but those have been fairly insignificant and spread out. More or less harmless, but the signs are still worth noting.
At least, I'll be surprised if it isn't an issue going forward, but I probably won't be paying much attention to this franchise anyways.
Just add a Scarab in Halo Infinite.... one problem solved right there.
You say that but characters like palmer feel forced and she’s an awful character. The pilot talks constantly about feelings.
@@sandman8920 Yeah...? I'm sure the maintenance guy who's stuck in space for 6 months would be pretty emotional.
@@Sahlan_Ahamed we don’t need that shit in halo.
Rip halo 2001-2010
I can't believe how much the devs have screwed over the Halo franchise in general and yet how much fellow fans like us have actually tried to save it. Ever since Bungie left it has just been in decline. Aside from Halo Wars 2, which wasn't even done by 343 for the most part, the only good content I have seen has come from Halo Modders and the Dig site Team. I am personally a lot more interested in the fan-made titles that are being made, like Installation 01 and Branching Sickness than whatever garbage Halo Studios might try to push on us next. And it's not just FPS games, great groups like Chokepoint Games have made some real high-quality Halo mods over the years for Sins of a Solar Empire, Arma III, Homeworld Remastered, Command and Conquer III, and even Stellaris. Meanwhile, 343 repeatedly failed to live up to expectations and Halo Studios is on track to absolutely screw up what is left.
I do want to give a great big thank you to the guys writing the Halo books, that stuff is pretty great.
But the Halo show is complete trash. They had so much good lore from the early games and the books and instead they had to go and screw that up to with stuff that didn't have anything in common with any other parts of the franchise.
Halo 3 was good also
@USdebtbytrent The GOAT
@@royfolker6856 and thats the problem, i mean yes 343 now halo estudios it's a trash
but i have a problem how exist scince halo reach
And it's many purist fanboys players of halo 3 hate the run mechanic, and thats the people how always mess the advanced on the comunity try to save halo
blame halo 4 for including it, but forguet it was including in halo reach
and in the time of halo reach many of that purist atack the game (but now ignoring that fact, and blame halo 4, because reach was the last game made by bungie)
@@linkconparche9771 I don't mind the run mechanic so much, I was a late joiner to the Halo Games myself, but with the Master Chief Collection, I was able to play around with the older games and I really enjoyed them all. The run mechanic was very useful in Reach, but it was also neat in that it was done in a semi-unique way rather than just a copy-paste from COD or something. That particular mechanic was adapted from mechanics in Halo 3 such as the special slot for equipment, which became a slot for equipment with passive abilities such as the jetpack, armor-lock, sprint, and others. I personally preferred this over the newer sprint mechanic, as I think it was better balanced for multiplayer, but I don't really mind the newer one that much.
@royfolker6856 during the release of halo reach
Many players hate the mechanic of runing
That players are the same guys how representate the comunity (in the u.s area) and they blame for the implemetstion of the runing mechanic
I enter late to, i start with the end of reach era and halo 4 era
And i still remember the people hate halo 3 odst and halo reach before halo 4 release
And that people you are you alied after you defend the runing mechanic
And sadly they are the most followed and influenced people on the comunity area
I don't like the way how 343 take
Make halo cod
But, ironicaly, these people, if they take the control, the make a halo 3 again, and again, and again, and blick any try of evolutiom en the franchise
And ironically become call of duty
But the rest what you say it's true and i agree
They ARE gonna f this up, the visuals they showed look nothing like Halo and show how they really don't understand anything about Halo, the forerunner tower are clean and shiny, Master chief's Armor is plasticky, the energy sword is now a holographic sword for some reason etc.
There's also leaks of a competition that took place at 343 where the different dev teams had to show their idea of the ultimate Halo game for the next Halo (after infinite), the artworks resulting from that competition have leaked and they all look horrendous and nothing like Halo, like one team was for a Halo game but with a cartoon/fortnite look and all of the other artworks from other teams were just CoD clone in a Halo setting or hero shooters.
I was in shock when I saw that because in those artworks that were supposed to be what 343 teams think would be the ultimate Halo game, you can't even see the Halo design anywhere, like they didn't draw any spartan, just some generic special forces bearded dudes with current day weapons, vehicles and planes. I was like "Ok after 15 years isn't there anyone at this fkin studio who has played the fkin games!!!??"
So overall I'm tired of people saying it's the management or Microsoft, because yeah, but the devs working there, just like the guy who tweeted about how pierre hintze, are all ignorant about Halo and really do not care, everytime they try to explain what Halo truly is they are completely wrong ("Master chief is a human with feelings", "Halo is a Highly competitive game in its DNA" and now "Halo is all about graphics and should be the the best looking game") Man how can they be so assertive saying those beyond wrong things.
343/Halo studios is rotten to the core and they should not touch this franchise anymore.
How do I find these
I second this. What do I need to google?
To those asking, Halo Project Foundry
What are you talking about? the visuals they showed looked just like Halo CE
At this stage I think Halo is just dead. There is no coming back from the mess. The best hope IMO is a spiritual successor.
My brother in Christ. Halo is already dead and 343 killed it. Halo Studios is just digging up the corpse in an attempt for one last quick buck. They want to shake every last dollar out of the remaining loyal Halo fanbase before letting the franchise RIP.
So they try to kill the halo Franchise.
343 is starting to sound like the Flood. Use after killing.
@UNSCSpartanS114-g6e that is Facts
Even halo studios try to kill the halo
Franchise.
The fact that the Digsite team also left HS just a few days ago confirms Will's statement about that company being cancer.
Halos been dead. All your seeing is the parading of the corpse around town.
As a Bungie fan that has played since CE and has most of my hours on CE, I will say that Halo died when 343i took control of the IP not due to any one game but the collective disdain for Halo as a series along with the loss of passion behind the games.
Halo was only a Bungie title. Anything after is simply some crappy spin-off. Nothing more. Halo ended when Bungie left the series. It is what it is. It was a great run in its prime. I'll never forget those days growing up playing the original trilogy.
Damn straight, man.
No,MICROSOFT will kill halo,we need to free halo studios of theses mercenaries
It’s already been dead. There is nothing else to kill.
Good video, bro, I had no hope for Halo Studios.
It ended when bungie left. I wish they would have just ended it but Microsoft seems to have this thing about killing their games in the worst ways possible
Halo is one of my favorite book series. Can't wait for empty throne. Salute to the modder, forgers and writers that are currently the only reason Halo is doing anything at all.
I'm taking the "let's wait and see" option. Nice video btw :)
Being more inclusive isn’t the issue dude. Y’all that keep saying that give gamers a bad rap. It’s the lack of sincerity and continuity (be it narrative or aesthetically.)
You should not give a flying fuck if someone making a game is black, a horse or a fucking helicopter. If they do a good job, then that’s all that matters.
Halo died with Reach.
Halo wars 2 was just a cherry on top but the rest of the series has been a garbage fire. Our favorite series is dead, and 343 killed it. Move on.
Funny enough several comments above yours say that Reach was awful as well and had no rights to exist. Most people don't even accept Reach by Bungie itself. Imagine how crappy the state of the series is if game died so quickly it actually died in the hands of the old studio. MCC isn't the best way to experience the og either, but sadly the only there's for PC. And saving grace is modding there
@ you can interpret ‘halo died with reach’ to mean halo died because of reach or after it
Me when I see the 1000th white gamer cry about minorities
Ill watch your video cause im interested in hearing the controversy, but honestly i don't think halo is dead or is at risk of being "killed".
The mcc pretty much made the entire series accessible for anyone who wants to play it. You can go into any walmart and find halo merch. Regardless of quality, paramount just spent millions of dollars on a halo show.
The IP is clearly a draw and is seen as valuable by the people involved, thats why 343 got rebranded in the first place. Dead franchises dont get remakes or new entries. Dead franchises get shut down.
Halo may not be where it was 10 years ago, but i still think it is one good game away from being back in everyones good graces and will be for quite some time. The original games give the series so much good will among fans of the series that they could probably bomb for the next 20 years and we'd still probably be ready for the first good game that gets released
Kill the franchise?
Bud, Halo has been dead for a little over 12 years. It just took a while for Microsoft to dig it's grave.
Damn for years I've always wanted the original Halo trilogy on Vinyl and these ones look amazing with art from one of the Halo 3 concept artists but damn I love Marty and him directly saying not to buy is such a bummer🥲
I just hope they pull through and make something good
Every IP I grew up with is dead. Splinter Cell, Metal Gear Solid, Sly Cooper, Ghost Recon, and definitely Halo as well.
No hope for mgs delta?
Halo died with reach. As much as I loved halo I know what I loved is gone 🥲
Dude. Halo already died after the disaster of 5. Infinite finished it and "Studios" is just gonna parade its body though the streets.
I wish I was a billionaire so I could do right by Halo and all other fans by both buying and fixing it, story, sequal, and game play wise. Like Marty said. "Don't kill the golden goose." Well these fools have. A long time now.
Bungie, I love you...however, you really screwed the pooch on Halo. Some fond memories but, that is all it will ever be.
Memories.
At least I'm finally at the stage of acceptance. Just thankful I got to experience the originals in my childhood. All of the laughs and good times me and the boys had in middle/high school will never be forgotten.
Spartans never die, y'all.
Am I just an old crazy bungie fan? Yes.
Are all these issues correct? Also yes.
It's unfortunate that Halo's been on a really dark time. Until we can get people who love the series and make the best of it as it once was before 343 happened, it's going to continue down this downhill problem.
I hope the best for the Digsite team for being kind enough to bring us the Halo E3 demo, because they really brought us the piece of gameplay we never got to play until now.
Without the original team, Halo will never return. I mean, Joe Staten, Marty O'Donnell, Marcus Lehto and everyone else from the original Bungie.
I played infinite, The moment I went into the outdoor sections and saw distorted textures and visual bugs. I quit the game, uninstalled and never touched it again. 1$ wasted on game pass. I want that dollar back.
All I want is for Halo to bring back memorable battles like going against a Scarab, or blowing a Phantom out of the sky!
Why are there no more Scarabs in Halo? Parts 4, 5, and 6 just doesn't have large scale enemy vehicles. It doesn't even have to be scarabs, just make something new similar to that scale of conflict.
All halo is now is like a candle in the window - a hope that something we all loved and enjoyed will somehow return.
343 already did. Next question
Nice! Yet again they can not stop making us hate them to the teeth.
For a second, I thought I should've been worried... but then i saw the content of this video.
I WANT CORTANA TIDDIES BACK!!!
I'm still a million percent pissed that they just brought the people back from the original trilogy to have them give us the bad news for their failures for so long and it just sucks being a Halo fan now because of 343 also known as Halo studios now they didn't earn any of it like the one guy said and that's why they've destroyed it they wanted to make their changes but what were their changes hiring people that hate Halo to work on it and that has killed the franchise ever since Halo 4 in my eyes it sucks I want to be happy about Halo but I can't because the people making it are making it a mess
I like to think there is a fractures universe where ONLY the Bungie games and the Bungie related media (books, comics, etc) are the only events that ever happened. But that would mean Chief waking up where Requiem is, and not finding out what became of Chief. Terrible implication, IMO.
Pour one out for the Chief. He's been dead since after Halo 3 and the rest of the games have just been a corpo simulation to try and pervert the myth for money
I can only hope that my children will be able to enjoy the games, but they'll never know the global hype around the game and how you could talk to nearly any gamer back in the day and one of the games they played was Halo
All I got from the Internet is Microsoft didn't finish all the paid royalties to the composers in 2022. Which there's of course controversy in the situation of the Halo franchises.
If Microsoft would be smart to finish the paid royalties though I feel there's false acclaims since it is somewhat paid which indicates certain song for Microsoft is legal and others illegal depending in court. If they finish these paid royalties to the two composers (Marty O'Donnell and Mike Salvatori) with accurate source privately should indicate no falsy acclaims are made.
I am really questioning now the sources because huh where are they?
The case was settled. The details are unknown but Marty and Michael will get credited on tracks that use motifs made by them.
For me, it was halo 4 that signaled the end for halo. 343 comepletly changed everything about the franchise. Their only good game was the master chief collection that i still play. But with all this dei bs, im suprised it aint dead right now. And everyone is gravitating towards the eastern game developers now. I also have this feeling the gaming industry is gonna die in the west pretty soon.
I wish Microsoft would get rid of these people and bring back the original people who created halo.It’s not like they don’t have the money and it’s not like there gone or something.
6:32 Why can we not just do it I feel like everyone forgot there's laws
i remember seeing people say this was the salvation of halo.
They’ve been saying this since halo 4. It’s just the cycle. Halo is dead, new game, hype, halo is dead, new game, hype, halo is dead. I’m dead certain it’ll happen for the next game but whatever, they’ll make their money either way
What's with all these companies buying or being handed literal golden goose franchises and choosing to slow roast them instead of trying to get them to lay more eggs. Microsoft is insane for letting Halo fall apart this past decade and choosing to just rebrand now and not actually get rid of the shmucks causing the thing to fall apart. Like rebranding is acknowledging there's a problem, but expressly not fixing it at all.
if Halo wasn't already bad enough with 343... they make it 100000x worse
Us star wars fans can relate. Holy hell. Both star wars and halo are doomed
Friendly reminder that engine was never the problem. Just poor decision making.
I hope that they at least have a proper ending to the franchise. If that doesn’t happen, let’s all just say that anything after reach isn’t canon. Cause I don’t want halo to turn into another halflife
Franchise was already killed. Halo Studios will not revive it
It’s BEEN dead, the gravestone was ordered when infinite shipped
Halo ended with reach in 2010 my man, play MCC until we can and fuck all the rest
"Two corpses in one casket"
''... in one grave.''
@lordnandor3274 I was close 😭
Halo has ended as a franchise at least five times in the last twenty years lol. (We mean it this time.)
I was getting tired of the doom and gloom of what people were saying about the condition of the Halo series, but I realized that Microsoft's and Halo Studio's IP is unstoppable, nobody even cares about Halo no more, reality hit's you like a charged plasma pistol.
Brother halo died a long time ago…. Our best bet is new management or to just put halo to rest indefinitely
What do you mean 'WILL' ? They already killed it.
Edit:I think we should what the Warthunder playerbase does when Gaijin fucks the game up.
Don't buy he next game is my best advice. On support 343 2.0 and as Marty said, don't buy their new anniv. Album soundtrack. Don't let them win.
343 built the coffin, halo studios might nail it shut lol. Or not maybe it'll catch a second wind when we are like boomer aged.
Halo?
*I haven't heard a name like that in a looong time...*
Idk man its pretty hard to kill something that's already dead
halo has been long dead, i was a hardcore fan but i think its time to move on... time for this spartan atleast to be M.I.A retiring for good... its been a good run.
Halo died with Bungie. Who we trying to kid?
If you don’t think halos already dead then it probably isn’t dead yet. For me, Halo 5 dropped the ball. When forge released the community made the game actually feel like Halo. Mcc was broken for like two years at launch. Even CE anniversary was criticized heavily. Everything 343/Halo studios has done has been a massive failure they rely too heavily on the community to make something playable. It’s about to be 2025, Mcc came out 2014. Nothings changed, the community’s still saying the same shit just now it’s younger heads that probably didn’t even experience the original trilogy in its prime
Wait they’re actually trying to go through with a new Halo game? The trailer literally looks like some homemade render lmao
i could have told you after seeing the halo 4 teaser that its over. if you paid even a dime for anything after reach the state of halo is completely on the fans. ive been saying for years if you want to get back at companies for ruining your franchise you HAVE to stop buying it. i dont know what this fetish is about keeping a clearly dead franchise alive just to complain about it like your thoughts actually make a difference. just let it go guys lol stop paying for it
Redundant title, Halo died when Bungie stopped working on it.
Oddly enough I have a feeling this studio will be arguably worse than 343 and i really don’t have much faith in pierre, we’ve seen him fix mcc and infinite sure but we’ve never seen him create and direct a halo game from the ground up
Halo Studios ( or 343 ) is killing halo but what digsite did leaking those files also wasn't professional, this will probably be the last time halo studios will trust on any 3rd party group (community based teams )which are literally the only ones that care about halo at this point, 343 needs to leave behind their little shit ego and stop giving bad treatment to old bungie employes that worked on older halo titles and just let them take over in more important roles so that they can fix whatever mess they have at this point.
Will? It happened in 2011
im just waiting for mcc to arrive on ps4 and ps5. im not expecting a remake or a sequel to be good
HALO STUDIOS BEATING A DEAD HORSE 😅
But halo franchise end with reach same for gears of war 3 and i am happy with it.
The story was finished with Halo 3. Sure there was more to tell. But not by anyone else but Bungie. Halo stopped after Halo 3. No, not Reach, that's as canon as Halo 4 onwards and about as full of needless retcons to Bungie lore (Guess who approved those btw.)
That was foolish of them to work for free... no one was forcing them, it's not slavery, it's poor decision making on their part.
hopefully someone who is part of why halo has had its down fall reads this.... youve ruined halo and youve let alot of people down and abuse halo as a brand
Thank God. Time to move on.
Make Cortana black now!?
@@Zayshy as long as she’s a baddy
i think the best way to hit them, it's stop buying they games
or well, only if the game it's sucks, because theres exist at 1% were halo estudios can do a exelent game, but we mess up don't buying it
so i recomend just gibed the next halo 1 week, and later make the decision of buy or not buy it
pd: NO, RUN MECHANIC IT'S NOT A EXCUSE FOR DON'T BUY THE GAME, HALO REACH HAVE IT TO AND NO ONE HAVE PROBLEM WITH THAT (only halo 3 purist fanboys)
Halo to me stopped at Reach. I will say infinite multiplayer is fantastic
Fantastic? Many people saying at least it's fun. Well its fun but sadly it doesn't play like halo not at all. Looks like call of duty to me
@@JimmmmmmmmmmmY It plays like a balance of OG and modern Halo. If sprint is COD, then pretty much all FPS are COD.
Music is loud compared to your voice. Lower the music volume or raise your mic (or both)
halo studios or aka 343 already did for me... honestly anything past halo reach I consider as fan made projects... with the only decent ones being Halo wars.
Lets be honest dog, its been dead since Halo 4
Dude I hate the narrative that wokeness is what's killing Halo, it's bad writing, bad game design, and bad storytelling. It has nothing to do with DEI, and it's laughable to blame all of these problems on one person.
As for me I'll wait and see. Already I am not liking the look of things. Since they're switching to UE5 (which iirc is horribly optimized), that means expect performance issues. They still haven't fixed the MCC (which is still in dire need of ironing, The Season 7 and 8 updates which fixed the visuals for CE and slightly improved 2'e shows they have the ability to improve but they won't.
Huh, didn't know.
Can’t wait for Trump to get rid of DEI hires.
it's over
Stop with the negativity dude it's not helping anyone.
That won't happen as long as 343 and MS are still there.
Maybe it's a Microsoft Problem and not halo studios, fix microsoft, fix halo studios right? idk man it sucks if all this is true and holy crap that's not ok for the digsite team to work so much without pay
Understand this once and for all: 343i and Halo Studios are Microsoft. Several former Bungie employees, including Marty O'Donnell, have mentioned that Bungie was seen as a "roadblock" to Microsoft's ideas for the franchise. Many ideas were blocked by Bungie employees. Microsoft has always wanted full control over the franchise, and now they have it.
@@Turututu-T Gotcha so it is Microsoft
i played halo 4 a little but had to come back to it years later and have just been watching since mostly. you'd almost think it gave people to much community or hope even lol but really etiher way. The schools got infested Jordan Peterson always talked about it all the gay stuff was the last obvious sign, are institutions fell and these companies are tied apart by jackals snuffing creativity out to safe guard there feeling of power from having to endure change and give that would enable the growth that made these companies what they are from that very creative process being allowed. so much greed intent needs to be drawn from the arrogance, its pathetic and deserves to be publicly acknowledged.
That shit been dead dawg u clapping for a marionette