As a Lifelong Jersey Resident, this was epic. Truly awesome to see someone give the state an accurate and fair cultural representation and show how truly diverse this state is in terms of region and lifestyle
You may find this article interesting. NJ.com polled people across the state and mapped out the borders of where each term is more popular. www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/results_of_our_great_pork_roll_vs_taylor_ham_battle_divide_nj.html
Very, very insightful for such a young person. I've lived in southern New Jersey (Camden County) for 63 years. You nailed it. Good for you. Thanks for this video.
2:50 The part of New Jersey know to have 'India people' is from Edison to Plainsboro, where his 'Gateway' and 'Capitol' regions meet. Also in the center of NJ land of the 'Close to Philly'.
Unbelievably accurate analysis. I particularly love the distinction of the northern shore and the southern shore because they are truly so different from one another.
This is cool! I spent my grade school through high school years in NJ, and I'd say you pretty much nailed it. I've gotta check that "pork roll" versus "Taylor Ham" debate next. (In Cranford, it was definitely "Taylor Burgers").
Bravo. You took into account all the variables. I hope you are pursing a masters in Economics, you clearly understand how to analyze multiple variables at once. The world needs more people like you. This was EXCELLENTY presented and very accurate.
I admire your enthusiasm and dedication to this topic. Nice job. I lived in Union County the first 14 years of my life but I've been here in Florida since 1982.
You absolutely nailed this. Watched a video earlier about someone from south jersey was talking about north jersey and I was thinking to myself this is all wrong. He was talking about what I had called northeast jersey over by nyc. Being from Warren county we do it much different. I always thought of jersey as 4 different parts. The northwest, northeast, southern and the shore (sorry central jersey) But this map is definitely by far the truest jersey I've ever seen put together. Great work!
I grew up in NJ and still live here! I have been living here for 27 years. Great Video! You really do our state justice! BEST STATE IN THE UNION! NJ! NJ! NJ!
Makes a whole lot of sense to me, I’m a lifelong Mercer county resident, and I’ve had a hard time really using identifying with Monmouth county and other central Jersey areas since I never really go around there much. The capital region makes a whole lot more sense in terms of where I’d identify with, especially with the addition of Lambertville in the capitol region.
Wow...this was awesome. A lifelong South Jerseyan from Haddonfield who moved down to Texas 6 years ago I struggle to explain to natives just how different NJ is even though it's so small. Obviously they think NJ is just NYC but I try to tell them otherwise. This is a good video to show just how different we are. Thanks!
well done, im one of the few proud NJ born people when living abroad. i do have a question though, in the highlands, does the lighter green represent a less mountaineous zone between the east and west? this area could probably be identified by its strong upper middle class suburban identity or something
I've lived in NJ for 95% of my 73 years and have seen much change that has come to the Gateway region due to travel methods and technology. Your data presentation on the current state of NJ population and culture is very helpful to me and would be to visitors and businesses. Nice job. I'll subscribe.
Yes, and Staten Island and Bedloe's Island are both obviously parts of New Jerrsey too (although I don't know if we want Staten Island any more after NYC used it as a dump for so many years).
Great video. As a South Jersey native, I’d like to add that the economic hub of the suburbs is Cherry Hill, not Camden. Also LBI & Tuckerton are parts of South Jersey. I also never recognized Central Jersey, I just saw it as North Jersey Lite.
I view that area is a transition between the gateway region and highlands - as you go west, it gradually gets more rural, conservative, and mountainous
Brilliant. You might check out how various organizations divide up the state. I'm thinking of the regional orchestra I played violin in back in the 60's. Summit was in the North Central NJ slot. How's that work today?
Very well thought out! I love how LBI is cut in half... it really is 50/50. I am from Livingston but our beach house was on LBI. Every summer when school got out we'd see the same kids from both places year after year.
I lived in Hunterdon County for the first 34 years of my life. The rabbit ears antennas hooked up to rear-projection TVs in the northern part of the county used to easily receive TV stations from Philadelphia, TVs in the southern part of the county received NYS stations.
I live in Hamilton-Mercer County. My sister lives in Matawan. I’ve travelled the whole state for years. I spent many summers at my best friend’s house in Summit, yet I drive down to Salem county once a month for my job. I think you are right on the money.
Interesting interpretation. You may want to revisit this and overlay the old East Jersey and West Jersey concept (province line) and see if there is a better fit to your model.
I'm not from New Jersey, I'm a filthy PA license plate haver (Sorry! I promise I'm not a left lane hog!) but my girl is from Hamilton. I generally agree with your assessment, though I still feel like Central Jersey has a distinct vibe to it no matter what part of it you're in, from the hills of Hunterdon county to the sprawl of Middlesex to the beaches of Ocean County. I actually think a portion of Bucks County PA (Namely Morrisville, Yardley, Langhorne, and Newtown) are kinda more attached to the Trenton capital region than they even are to Philly, and these areas are very NJ influenced and are full of NJ transplants and people who commute to Jersey for work.
As a 57Year South Jersey Resident, and Real Estate agent… I would change it to anything north of Burlington county would be North Jersey.. even the way we conduct a real estate transaction is like a different state. So with that said, scrap the Central Jersey moniker, and make 2 separate states.
Here are a few: - each side roots for different sports teams - the two sides are in different media markets; growing up in South Jersey, I saw a lot more Philly sports, news, and cultural events on TV than NY ones - the dialects differ on a number of words (for instance, lots of people say “hoagies” in the Philly area, but “subs” and “heroes” in the NY area) - Philly and its suburbs are more reliant on cars than NY and its suburbs, which have more public transportation options - the New York area has more Dutch influence from when the Netherlands colonized it, which often shows up in town and street names. the Philly area has more Swedish influence - the Quaker faith has a larger presence in the Philly area
I've always lived in NW New Jersey, the highlands region, and yes this is a much better way to explain NJ in a cultural context. I read a news article once that I think was in one of the NJ news websites that called us "Rednecks with Paychecks," I got a kick out of that, I can't remember the author to give him credit, but that was great.
I've been a resident of Ocean County all my life (only 17 years, but still), and even within this county, there's so much diversity! I live in Toms River, which is NJ's 8th biggest local government, and a 10 minute walk north of me is Lakewood, the 7th. The demographics are so drastically different, as Lakewood has an extremely high Jewish population, and is much more urban than my suburban town. 30 minutes west of me, where my girlfriend lives, is New Egypt (Plumsted Township), and it's rural and pine barren-associated. I go to school 20 miles south in Manahawkin, and it's definitely much more suburban and spread out. Long Beach Island is down there, with a lot of fishing, surfing, and relaxed vacationing. Meanwhile, where I work (lifeguarding) just north of Lavalette, near Seaside Heights, is another barrier island with a completely different culture. It's insane how a single county is so diverse: we have the Jersey Shore, Pine Barrens, a bustling almost-city, farmland, theme parks, boardwalks, streams, parks, and wetlands. I also think it's worth pointing out that because of NJ's (frankly dumb) system of local governments, many large municipalities, such as Lakewood, Toms River, Edison, and Woodbridge, are not actually cities: they're townships. The title has to do with government and not population. So Lakewood with 100,000+ people is a township, while Corbin City (Atlantic County) with
How can it be improved? I suggest mapping the NJ accents! There are at least six: Southern, Philly, Mountain Region (2 accents), Hudson Valley, and the classic New Jersey accents in the NYC closest suburbs.
I think I just used that different shade of blue to show how Middlesex County is part of the New York metro area, but isn’t as densely populated or close to the area’s core as those other Northeast counties. A lot of different shades on the map are meant to represent places that are on the fringe of different regions but not fully influenced by them
Lavodna Sared It has to do with the Raritan Valley communities in Union County. Geography doesn't have much to do with it. The modes of transportation (Raritan Valley line, Route 28, I-78 etc) connect the county with the Somerset portion of the Capitol Region and eventually the Lehigh Valley part of Eastern Pa. So the Central Jersey element is more cultural (and perhaps linguistic) then geographic, which is the position the producer of this video is coming from. Geographically speaking the Watchung Mountains and US 22, which run through Union County, is the great divide between North and Central, NJ. Elizabeth is definitely North Jersey though, as it has always been a close cousin of Newark, Paterson, and Jersey City.
@@shamish-2960 Yeah I've been noticing that more recently living in Green Brook. But that only applies to raritan valley. The thing is, besides Elizabeth, Union county still has the city of Linden and Rahway down route 9 which aline more with North Jersey than they do central because it is so easy to get to Newark and the whole area is technically adjacent to NYC if you count Staten Island as a legitimate borough. Even in the raritan valley, people who grow up in the urban side of Plainfield city think of themselves as north jersey culturally dispite being awkwardly situated on the map.
Lavodna Sared I think it's safe to say there are some counties that have dual personalities- Union, Ocean, Mercer... I agree the Route 1&9 corridor in Union County is definitely North Jersey. You could tell we are true Jersey people. 😀 Folks from outside the state would be scratching their heads and wondering why it matters. It's because the state is shaped like the letter "S" and falls not only between 2 major cities with distinct personalities, but also between New England, the Pennsylvania Rust Belt, and the South, each with their own regional distinctions. Makes for great endless debates though. 😃. I'd like to meet the person who finally gets everyone to agree!
Jbone Philly Agreed. I live in Philly now too and I tire of hearing people call Toms River North Jersey. Kind of odd. Truth is Elizabeth is North Jersey. Plainfield...not as much. Union County is one of the counties that is split. Even weirder when it applies to Ocean County, people from Philly would call Toms River North or Central New Jersey, but New Egypt (which is NW of Toms River) they would call South Jersey. I think it has much to do with sports teams media markets and urban vs suburban vs rural.
This is a very smart way to break down culture. I believe the Bell Atlantic telephone book broke NJ down into similar regions. I will disagree with your analysis with how “southern NJ” votes. (I label Southern NJ as the mostly rural areas of Salem, Cumberland, Atlantic and Cape May Counties and South Jersey as the mostly suburban areas of Burlington, Camden and Gloucester Counties.) With the exception of Vineland, Millville and Bridgeton, there aren’t many blue towns in those respective counties. Atlantic is mostly red as well, save mostly for Atlantic City and Pleasantville.
Wouldn't it also be when your ancestors arrived into NJ. My kin arrived in NJ, in 1750's from Germany. Farms of Hunterton Co., Easton Pa. and The Poconos, which is earmarked on my DNA. My fathers family moved to Middlesex/Union Counties. Some went to Kentucky/Tennessee. Influence depends on culture and family influences.
My name is John I'm from North Jersey a little town Boonton in 1989 I moved to Pennsylvania took a truck driving class I'm in another New Jersieyen however he was from he would really not talk to me so I'm just telling you now that's how long it's been around because he finally said we think we're from New York !!!!
Union County is North Jersey, period. Ocean County is part of the Northern Half because it was settled by people from North Jersey and New York. There are seven Southern Counties: the ones who voted for independence. We might be in the Delaware Valley or the South Jersey Shore, but we are all South Jersyans. The only thing I can agree with is that North East NJ and North West NJ are different regions.
I grew up in Cherry Hill and lived in Maple Shade and Mount Laurel. We were 15-20 minutes to Philly so we were considered a Philly Suburb. Diehard EAGLES, PHILLIES, SIXERS and FLYERS fans. And many of the Players resided in Jersey. I know many people in North Jersey and they are practically New Yorkers.
I think it's very thorough. The Watching mountain range is the first rise in land west of NYC. You have a great view of the city there. I live in the most blue county in the state, Essex county. It's interesting to look at the 2008 Democratic primary in New Jersey. For some reason Hillary did better in the counties that would vote Republican in the General election and Obama did better in solid blue counties like Essex. Historically, central Pennsylvania and central Virginia are known for the great civil war battles. But It's New Jersey that turned the course of the Revolutionary war with the battle of Trenton
Interesting. Central Jersey is still apart of the NYC metro but says Pork Roll instead of Taylor Ham and the NY accent isn't as thick. Any county that directly borders the 5 boros is North Jersey in my book. Middlesex county I give a pass since it only borders the southern portion of Staten Island.
Growing up in middlesex county i feel central does exist. We constantly spoke of north, south, and the shore as places that we did not live in. And im in my 50s. Thats alot of years and many many people ive known that believe the same thing because we actually live it. We know it to be a fact not just a line on a map or someone elses opinion👍🏻
Good video. I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers. But too many regions. Even 2 may be too many for a small state like NJ. When I lived in north Jersey (Newark), the border between north and south Jersey was the Raritan River. When we crossed the Raritan on our way to the shore we were entering south Jersey. This was confirmed by AT&T, who originally established two area codes in NJ, 201 and 609. Now that I live in south Jersey (Cherry Hill), if there IS NOT a central Jersey, the north/south dividing line is I-195. But, if there IS a central Jersey, where is it? AT&T also answered that question when they created area codes 908 and 732. Even though it is in 609, Mercer county is unquestionably central Jersey. My Union county relatives, wanting to distance themselves from north Jersey, say they live in central Jersey (but I question that). The southeastern limits of central Jersey has to correspond with the border between East Jersey and West Jersey in Colonial times, putting the current Ocean county (previously part of Burlington county) in central Jersey.
I like your map. I'm from Hamilton in Mercer County, and we get both Philly and NY news stations. I completely agree with the capital region designation. MC doesn't fully identify with either Philadelphia or New York, as it is essentially the midway point of the two cities. It deserves it own designation. Also, we (Central New Jerseyans) typically visit beach towns from Belmar/Asbury Park to LBI by using 195 and Rt. 72
Interesting! I live in the PA suburbs of Philadelphia. As a kid my family always went to Long Beach Island for vacation at the shore. LBI was more NYers and North Jersey people than it was Philly or South Jersey people. Basically, anything north of Atlantic City is not part of the South Jersey shore.
@@gannon3816 I always saw it the other way. More often than not, if we ended meeting and talking with people they would overwhelmingly be from North Jersey or NY. But, I'll take you at your word.
NJ is like the US in terms of North and South. I love how I don't have to leave the state if I want influence from either. I've been everywhere except NW Jersey. I never understood the Taylor Ham/ Pork Roll thing. I don't eat either, so oh well.
Some of the Jersey shore towns are nice, and I think northwest NJ is nice because it’s more like PA but anything else not worth it, so crowded and expensive. And liberal.
I've lived in New Jersey for 71 years and I believe your analysis is the best one on the internet.
Agreed👍🏻
As a Lifelong Jersey Resident, this was epic. Truly awesome to see someone give the state an accurate and fair cultural representation and show how truly diverse this state is in terms of region and lifestyle
This layout takes in so many accurate variables in to consideration, however this still does not disputed the Taylor Ham Vs. Pork roll dispute.
You may find this article interesting. NJ.com polled people across the state and mapped out the borders of where each term is more popular. www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2016/06/results_of_our_great_pork_roll_vs_taylor_ham_battle_divide_nj.html
it's porkroll, and according to this video I live in the north
@@plutoniumin Taylor Ham !!!!
Hoagie vs Sub?… Jimmies vs sprinkles?
Taylor ham. It's brought waaay down to South Florida 'cos there are so many NJErs here.
Very, very insightful for such a young person. I've lived in southern New Jersey (Camden County) for 63 years. You nailed it. Good for you. Thanks for this video.
I was looking for an overview of the different parts of New Jersey and this did an excellent job - thank you for taking the time to put this together!
Very accurate. Perhaps the most accurate breakdown of NJ I've seen.
Yes finally! Thank you!
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I am from India ,would like to know about NJ,your explanation pictorically gave me good idea of NJ.Good job,keep it up
2:50 The part of New Jersey know to have 'India people' is from Edison to Plainsboro, where his 'Gateway' and 'Capitol' regions meet. Also in the center of NJ land of the 'Close to Philly'.
@@295g295nailed it
if you're thinking of moving to NJ, definitely go to Middlesex county. wikipedia literally calls it "little india" LMAO
This video deserves more attention from us New Jerseyans. Great video!!!
Unbelievably accurate analysis. I particularly love the distinction of the northern shore and the southern shore because they are truly so different from one another.
This is cool! I spent my grade school through high school years in NJ, and I'd say you pretty much nailed it. I've gotta check that "pork roll" versus "Taylor Ham" debate next. (In Cranford, it was definitely "Taylor Burgers").
Pork roll vs scrapple
Bravo. You took into account all the variables. I hope you are pursing a masters in Economics, you clearly understand how to analyze multiple variables at once. The world needs more people like you. This was EXCELLENTY presented and very accurate.
I admire your enthusiasm and dedication to this topic. Nice job. I lived in Union County the first 14 years of my life but I've been here in Florida since 1982.
You absolutely nailed this. Watched a video earlier about someone from south jersey was talking about north jersey and I was thinking to myself this is all wrong. He was talking about what I had called northeast jersey over by nyc. Being from Warren county we do it much different.
I always thought of jersey as 4 different parts. The northwest, northeast, southern and the shore (sorry central jersey) But this map is definitely by far the truest jersey I've ever seen put together. Great work!
new jersey's so culturally diverse that it's like a mini representation of the united states lmao
I loved this video! This fellow shows much more insight than the usual “what exit”? Fascinating!
I grew up in NJ and still live here! I have been living here for 27 years. Great Video! You really do our state justice! BEST STATE IN THE UNION! NJ! NJ! NJ!
Excellent work young man! Top shelf!
Makes a whole lot of sense to me, I’m a lifelong Mercer county resident, and I’ve had a hard time really using identifying with Monmouth county and other central Jersey areas since I never really go around there much. The capital region makes a whole lot more sense in terms of where I’d identify with, especially with the addition of Lambertville in the capitol region.
Wow...this was awesome. A lifelong South Jerseyan from Haddonfield who moved down to Texas 6 years ago I struggle to explain to natives just how different NJ is even though it's so small. Obviously they think NJ is just NYC but I try to tell them otherwise. This is a good video to show just how different we are. Thanks!
well done, im one of the few proud NJ born people when living abroad. i do have a question though, in the highlands, does the lighter green represent a less mountaineous zone between the east and west? this area could probably be identified by its strong upper middle class suburban identity or something
Exactly. It’s sort of like a transition zone between the highlights and gateway, blending aspects of each
I've lived in NJ for 95% of my 73 years and have seen much change that has come to the Gateway region due to travel methods and technology. Your data presentation on the current state of NJ population and culture is very helpful to me and would be to visitors and businesses. Nice job. I'll subscribe.
Perfect breakdown of Jersey
As an NJ resident I really appreciate this kind of content.
You have a clear passion for New Jersey, great video man!
great video. our cultural identity would have been so much less confusing if they had just made philly part of new jersey.
Yes, and Staten Island and Bedloe's Island are both obviously parts of New Jerrsey too (although I don't know if we want Staten Island any more after NYC used it as a dump for so many years).
I dont think anybody ever considered Union to be in in central jersey. It's clearly north.
Katjerouac thank you
This was a great analysis. Much truer to history and contemporary culture than the idea of splitting the state into three bands. Great job!
Wow! Well done, sir.
This is really amazing :)
Great video. As a South Jersey native, I’d like to add that the economic hub of the suburbs is Cherry Hill, not Camden. Also LBI & Tuckerton are parts of South Jersey. I also never recognized Central Jersey, I just saw it as North Jersey Lite.
To be fair, this video is kind of old, i believe Camden wasn't as bad off then as it is now. Was already on it's way down for years though
@@lazygongfarmer2044Camden is definitely better now than it was 6 years ago
Extraordinary presentation! What does the light green region indicate (adjacent to the Gateway)?
I view that area is a transition between the gateway region and highlands - as you go west, it gradually gets more rural, conservative, and mountainous
Brilliant. You might check out how various organizations divide up the state. I'm thinking of the regional orchestra I played violin in back in the 60's. Summit was in the North Central NJ slot. How's that work today?
The great state of New Jersey
Great video
I just hit the like and subscribe
Like I always say, if you don't like Jersey, go around. 🤔😂😂😂😂
Best I have seen!
I love my home state with all of my heart and miss it so much.
Professor of Jerseyology
Very well thought out! I love how LBI is cut in half... it really is 50/50. I am from Livingston but our beach house was on LBI. Every summer when school got out we'd see the same kids from both places year after year.
I lived in Hunterdon County for the first 34 years of my life. The rabbit ears antennas hooked up to rear-projection TVs in the northern part of the county used to easily receive TV stations from Philadelphia, TVs in the southern part of the county received NYS stations.
I live in Hamilton-Mercer County. My sister lives in Matawan. I’ve travelled the whole state for years. I spent many summers at my best friend’s house in Summit, yet I drive down to Salem county once a month for my job. I think you are right on the money.
I’m from Matawan
Interesting interpretation. You may want to revisit this and overlay the old East Jersey and West Jersey concept (province line) and see if there is a better fit to your model.
Grew up in great meadows! Warren county then moved to Sparta in Sussex both great places to raise a family!
I'm not from New Jersey, I'm a filthy PA license plate haver (Sorry! I promise I'm not a left lane hog!) but my girl is from Hamilton. I generally agree with your assessment, though I still feel like Central Jersey has a distinct vibe to it no matter what part of it you're in, from the hills of Hunterdon county to the sprawl of Middlesex to the beaches of Ocean County. I actually think a portion of Bucks County PA (Namely Morrisville, Yardley, Langhorne, and Newtown) are kinda more attached to the Trenton capital region than they even are to Philly, and these areas are very NJ influenced and are full of NJ transplants and people who commute to Jersey for work.
Liv in many areas of NJ , I never found it to be appealing. Moved to Southeast Florida. Love it.
Excellent work bravo!
As a 57Year South Jersey Resident, and Real Estate agent… I would change it to anything north of Burlington county would be North Jersey.. even the way we conduct a real estate transaction is like a different state. So with that said, scrap the Central Jersey moniker, and make 2 separate states.
I'm a fairly new NJ resident and curious to know what are the key cultural differences when we say NY influence and Philadelphia influence?
Here are a few:
- each side roots for different sports teams
- the two sides are in different media markets; growing up in South Jersey, I saw a lot more Philly sports, news, and cultural events on TV than NY ones
- the dialects differ on a number of words (for instance, lots of people say “hoagies” in the Philly area, but “subs” and “heroes” in the NY area)
- Philly and its suburbs are more reliant on cars than NY and its suburbs, which have more public transportation options
- the New York area has more Dutch influence from when the Netherlands colonized it, which often shows up in town and street names. the Philly area has more Swedish influence
- the Quaker faith has a larger presence in the Philly area
I would say it’s an excellent research work on NJ!
Spaghetti sauce or gravy ? Pork roll Ortel or ham ? These are the questions that must be answered .
So true! This is the most accurate interpretation I have seen
I've always lived in NW New Jersey, the highlands region, and yes this is a much better way to explain NJ in a cultural context. I read a news article once that I think was in one of the NJ news websites that called us "Rednecks with Paychecks," I got a kick out of that, I can't remember the author to give him credit, but that was great.
I've been a resident of Ocean County all my life (only 17 years, but still), and even within this county, there's so much diversity! I live in Toms River, which is NJ's 8th biggest local government, and a 10 minute walk north of me is Lakewood, the 7th. The demographics are so drastically different, as Lakewood has an extremely high Jewish population, and is much more urban than my suburban town. 30 minutes west of me, where my girlfriend lives, is New Egypt (Plumsted Township), and it's rural and pine barren-associated. I go to school 20 miles south in Manahawkin, and it's definitely much more suburban and spread out. Long Beach Island is down there, with a lot of fishing, surfing, and relaxed vacationing. Meanwhile, where I work (lifeguarding) just north of Lavalette, near Seaside Heights, is another barrier island with a completely different culture. It's insane how a single county is so diverse: we have the Jersey Shore, Pine Barrens, a bustling almost-city, farmland, theme parks, boardwalks, streams, parks, and wetlands.
I also think it's worth pointing out that because of NJ's (frankly dumb) system of local governments, many large municipalities, such as Lakewood, Toms River, Edison, and Woodbridge, are not actually cities: they're townships. The title has to do with government and not population. So Lakewood with 100,000+ people is a township, while Corbin City (Atlantic County) with
1:00-1:40: Proof that Central Jersey doesn't exist.
Thats what you got out of this? Ugh from a central jersey resident
How can it be improved? I suggest mapping the NJ accents! There are at least six: Southern, Philly, Mountain Region (2 accents), Hudson Valley, and the classic New Jersey accents in the NYC closest suburbs.
South jersey and central jersey are known as examples of what type of region ????
Do a video on NJ’s unbuilt freeways
i live in mercer county and going to rutgers and talking to my classmates taught me a lot i dont know about the state. cool video
Can you please clarify the color that is used only on Middlesex County?
I think I just used that different shade of blue to show how Middlesex County is part of the New York metro area, but isn’t as densely populated or close to the area’s core as those other Northeast counties. A lot of different shades on the map are meant to represent places that are on the fringe of different regions but not fully influenced by them
Well done very informative
Yes got that thank you watched
The rahway river ought to be the line @1:07
1:02 when was Union County traditionally considered "central"?
Lavodna Sared It has to do with the Raritan Valley communities in Union County. Geography doesn't have much to do with it. The modes of transportation (Raritan Valley line, Route 28, I-78 etc) connect the county with the Somerset portion of the Capitol Region and eventually the Lehigh Valley part of Eastern Pa. So the Central Jersey element is more cultural (and perhaps linguistic) then geographic, which is the position the producer of this video is coming from. Geographically speaking the Watchung Mountains and US 22, which run through Union County, is the great divide between North and Central, NJ. Elizabeth is definitely North Jersey though, as it has always been a close cousin of Newark, Paterson, and Jersey City.
@@shamish-2960 Yeah I've been noticing that more recently living in Green Brook. But that only applies to raritan valley. The thing is, besides Elizabeth, Union county still has the city of Linden and Rahway down route 9 which aline more with North Jersey than they do central because it is so easy to get to Newark and the whole area is technically adjacent to NYC if you count Staten Island as a legitimate borough. Even in the raritan valley, people who grow up in the urban side of Plainfield city think of themselves as north jersey culturally dispite being awkwardly situated on the map.
Lavodna Sared I think it's safe to say there are some counties that have dual personalities- Union, Ocean, Mercer... I agree the Route 1&9 corridor in Union County is definitely North Jersey. You could tell we are true Jersey people. 😀 Folks from outside the state would be scratching their heads and wondering why it matters. It's because the state is shaped like the letter "S" and falls not only between 2 major cities with distinct personalities, but also between New England, the Pennsylvania Rust Belt, and the South, each with their own regional distinctions. Makes for great endless debates though. 😃. I'd like to meet the person who finally gets everyone to agree!
Jbone Philly Agreed. I live in Philly now too and I tire of hearing people call Toms River North Jersey. Kind of odd. Truth is Elizabeth is North Jersey. Plainfield...not as much. Union County is one of the counties that is split. Even weirder when it applies to Ocean County, people from Philly would call Toms River North or Central New Jersey, but New Egypt (which is NW of Toms River) they would call South Jersey. I think it has much to do with sports teams media markets and urban vs suburban vs rural.
@@shamish-2960 Agreed
This is a very smart way to break down culture. I believe the Bell Atlantic telephone book broke NJ down into similar regions. I will disagree with your analysis with how “southern NJ” votes. (I label Southern NJ as the mostly rural areas of Salem, Cumberland, Atlantic and Cape May Counties and South Jersey as the mostly suburban areas of Burlington, Camden and Gloucester Counties.) With the exception of Vineland, Millville and Bridgeton, there aren’t many blue towns in those respective counties. Atlantic is mostly red as well, save mostly for Atlantic City and Pleasantville.
Wouldn't it also be when your ancestors arrived into NJ. My kin arrived in NJ, in 1750's from Germany. Farms of Hunterton Co., Easton Pa. and The Poconos, which is earmarked on my DNA. My fathers family moved to Middlesex/Union Counties. Some went to Kentucky/Tennessee. Influence depends on culture and family influences.
Good start! Do your college thesis on this.
Very well explained. So true
Excellent video, really excited to explore NJ
The first time these words were ever uttered
elbowache elbowache lol well technically it was typed..
Enjoy the traffic
@@itsnick37 just take backroads to wherever you’re going it might take a little longer but there’s no traffic and some cool sights
Philly has Atlantic city, camden, Wildwood,
Newyork has jersey city, Newark
The geography has a big part to do with it to. The mountain region vs coastal plains..
Very good. I have always been saying something similar about a jersey shore region
My name is John I'm from North Jersey a little town Boonton in 1989 I moved to Pennsylvania took a truck driving class I'm in another New Jersieyen however he was from he would really not talk to me so I'm just telling you now that's how long it's been around because he finally said we think we're from New York !!!!
I’ve heard of Boonton, does NJ Transit stop there?
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Union County is North Jersey, period. Ocean County is part of the Northern Half because it was settled by people from North Jersey and New York. There are seven Southern Counties: the ones who voted for independence. We might be in the Delaware Valley or the South Jersey Shore, but we are all South Jersyans.
The only thing I can agree with is that North East NJ and North West NJ are different regions.
I grew up in Cherry Hill and lived in Maple Shade and Mount Laurel. We were 15-20 minutes to Philly so we were considered a Philly Suburb. Diehard EAGLES, PHILLIES, SIXERS and FLYERS fans. And many of the Players resided in Jersey. I know many people in North Jersey and they are practically New Yorkers.
Woodbridge is Central Jersey. Anything north is North Jersey
My family from trenton identifies with Philadelphia 100% nice video
The key thing is, how do you pronounce the word 'water'? Then you know you're from South Jersey.
You should watch the video on NJ DIALECT BOUNDARIES
Union is north jersey bro
Okay got it thanks
5:18 Cherry Hill is ...
I’m from North Plainfield, I guess I’m North Central NJ.
I think it's very thorough. The Watching mountain range is the first rise in land west of NYC. You have a great view of the city there. I live in the most blue county in the state, Essex county. It's interesting to look at the 2008 Democratic primary in New Jersey. For some reason Hillary did better in the counties that would vote Republican in the General election and Obama did better in solid blue counties like Essex.
Historically, central Pennsylvania and central Virginia are known for the great civil war battles. But It's New Jersey that turned the course of the Revolutionary war with the battle of Trenton
Sorry folks u can call it whatever you want but it is still NJ the armpit of the US.
Roads. I-78, I-295, GSP, perhaps US206 define some of these regions.
good job
Interesting. Central Jersey is still apart of the NYC metro but says Pork Roll instead of Taylor Ham and the NY accent isn't as thick. Any county that directly borders the 5 boros is North Jersey in my book. Middlesex county I give a pass since it only borders the southern portion of Staten Island.
I always thought there is such a thing as Central Jersey
Growing up in middlesex county i feel central does exist. We constantly spoke of north, south, and the shore as places that we did not live in. And im in my 50s. Thats alot of years and many many people ive known that believe the same thing because we actually live it. We know it to be a fact not just a line on a map or someone elses opinion👍🏻
I agree….I’m from Hudson County, but I lived in Middlesex County for 8 years.
Good video. I'm surprised you don't have more subscribers.
But too many regions. Even 2 may be too many for a small state like NJ.
When I lived in north Jersey (Newark), the border between north and south Jersey was the Raritan River. When we crossed the Raritan on our way to the shore we were entering south Jersey. This was confirmed by AT&T, who originally established two area codes in NJ, 201 and 609.
Now that I live in south Jersey (Cherry Hill), if there IS NOT a central Jersey, the north/south dividing line is I-195.
But, if there IS a central Jersey, where is it? AT&T also answered that question when they created area codes 908 and 732.
Even though it is in 609, Mercer county is unquestionably central Jersey. My Union county relatives, wanting to distance themselves from north Jersey, say they live in central Jersey (but I question that). The southeastern limits of central Jersey has to correspond with the border between East Jersey and West Jersey in Colonial times, putting the current Ocean county (previously part of Burlington county) in central Jersey.
Thanks!
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That’s all 😂😂😂
I like your map. I'm from Hamilton in Mercer County, and we get both Philly and NY news stations. I completely agree with the capital region designation. MC doesn't fully identify with either Philadelphia or New York, as it is essentially the midway point of the two cities. It deserves it own designation. Also, we (Central New Jerseyans) typically visit beach towns from Belmar/Asbury Park to LBI by using 195 and Rt. 72
whats belmar/asbury
Thank you for identifying as central. Middlesex bordering Mercer checking in✌🏻
Watched video ✅
South Jersey the 51st state!
Nice
I like that saltwater taffy.
Interesting!
I live in the PA suburbs of Philadelphia. As a kid my family always went to Long Beach Island for vacation at the shore. LBI was more NYers and North Jersey people than it was Philly or South Jersey people. Basically, anything north of Atlantic City is not part of the South Jersey shore.
I’m from Burlington County and we always saw LBI as South Jersey. There are way more South Jersey people there than NYers.
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I always saw it the other way. More often than not, if we ended meeting and talking with people they would overwhelmingly be from North Jersey or NY.
But, I'll take you at your word.
NJ is like the US in terms of North and South. I love how I don't have to leave the state if I want influence from either. I've been everywhere except NW Jersey. I never understood the Taylor Ham/ Pork Roll thing. I don't eat either, so oh well.
North Jersey 😎
It’s a madhouse in the summer time, you got all the rich slobs from New York and Philly trashing up the shore
Some of the Jersey shore towns are nice, and I think northwest NJ is nice because it’s more like PA but anything else not worth it, so crowded and expensive. And liberal.