I remember speculating at one point that the stage 4 xenomorph we see in Alien, and the stage 5 xenomorphs in Aliens, could've possibly been 2 completely separate strains of the same type of bioweapon, somewhat like the difference between Xenomorph XX121 and the Praetomorph now, but not quite as extreme, with the drone being specifically made as a hunter or assassin to target smaller groups in isolated areas, and the warriors being specified for open warfare, another old speculation I had was that it could've been that fertile xenomorphs destined to develop into queens simply possessed a domed head, while ones with ridged heads were sterile hive workers, I thought of this at the time with consideration that we pretty much never see stage 4 and stage 5 Xenomorphs in the same room in the films, however I think the best explanation now, is that in James Cameron's Aliens, a very large majority of Xenomorphs simply birthed and grew around the same time, leading to a bulk of individuals being stage 5, with any drones being off camera or elsewhere, we all know bts it's just design choice but we also enjoy in universe explanations, I think I prefer the more widely accepted explanation of growth stages over my previous speculations.
To be fair, I really don't think that the soldiers were intended to have a higher internal pressure. The more explosive deaths in Aliens can actually be attributed to the ammunition the marines were using. "Lieutenant, what do those pulse rifles fire?" "10mm explosive-tip caseless. Standard light armor-piercing rounds, why?" "Well, look where your team is, they're right under the primary heat exchangers." "So?" "If they fire their weapons in there, won't they rupture the cooling system?" This is further evidenced when Ripley runs over another soldier with the APC. That one didn't burst apart from any more pressure than simply being crushed, no extra internal pressure to its system.
I know warriors/soldiers are basically drones with the dome taken off but it made them look so much more menacing and animalistic, meaner and uglier, the whole Giger-ish biomechanical bizzaro beauty is gone, now we just get a pure monster
Personally, I actually find the drone / big chap variant scarier than the warrior variant. I guess because it seems more eerie and otherworldly than the more insectoid warrior variety. Not that they are all not very cool. Would love to know what Geiger thought of the later amendments to his design.
Oh totally. The drone/big chap seems like a sentient creature and I think Ridley and Giger approached it as an advanced lifeform anyway it also behaves like a sadistic psychopath. Giger apparently liked the Queen and gave Cameron credits for it but he probably didn't appreciate Aliens basically turned the sentient xenomorphs he originally envisioned as basically space ants/bees
@@Nicholas_Chen_ That’s really interesting, it’s cool he liked the queen, but yes the notion of them being more individualist ties in with the alternate ‘egg morphing’ of the special edition (as well as the whole ‘Texas chainsaw massacre in space’ vibe of a lone nut job taking out the protagonists one by one).
so if the outer dome melts how does the soldier stage lose its inner human skull lol we all know thats a loreless redesign but im curious since thats what u stated
So blue warriors can serve a brown queen? And brown warrior can serve a blue queen? I always thought the brown ones served a different hive also sense drones are usually black can they serve a brown queen and blue queen?
It has been stated oficially that the red aliens from that comic were black storywise, they just look red on the comic in order for the viewer to diferentiate the 2 diferent factions, however the red aliens were a mutatiin apart so yes they were diferent in a way.
I don’t agree. The eggmorphing drones and the queen/warriors were a separate xenomorph species. A few years ago i made a video going in more detail about this.
@@ProjectACHERON Yes, and what you need (and all of us, really) is simply another GOOD FILM again, something we haven’t seen since 1986 (Aliens). The first two-immortal classics. They haven’t gotten anything right since! Anyway, loving your channel here, especially the origin/description of the different classes of xenomorphs. Maybe you can write your own script for a film???… I think we could do better than them at this stage.
I find it funny nowadays the toys use blue colours for the warriors’ exoskeleton I guess it is meant to reflect Aliens’ blue colour palette, even though they have always been black-ish. I also think this stage was canon by accident as Cameron wanted to remove the dome on his free will for Aliens and later he put in a retcon saying ‘it’s a more advanced stage’ which seems more like a save to me 😂
What the hell is the Xenomorph made of, if it’s blood eats thru anything at all, what the hell is inside it’s goofy ass that makes it stronger than steel, but easily penetrated by crude projectiles such as the slug from a bullet? I love the Alien universe, I’m not hating. Only curious.
The insides aren't "stronger than steel" they are simply made of something that doesn't react with the acid. Strength, in that sense, isn't tied to the ability to resist acid, which is simply chemical reactions. As an example, in real life there are acids that would eat right through steel but can be stored in glass no problem.
Seems like they were on the way to being praetorians. I love the idea of time mummifying away the flesh and leaving the more bio mechanical parts exposed in older xenos
@@BigChaplv426 It's the most stupid, shallow, lowest-common-denominator that turned King Father Giger's precious ones into space ants. It's trash compared with Alien and Alien3, lacks the big swings of Resurrection, Prometheus, and Covenant, and even the horror that the AvP films conveyed when the first one was held back by a PG-13 rating. It's so mindless and stupid it was going to get adapted into a cartoon for children.
Yup, Stage V Xenos, just like the movie poster said," This time it's War". The film pitted soldier vs. soldier, Human and Alien, the conflict was epic and the film classic. I can't wait for the Aliens Expanded Q&A session coming up. I just received my pre-ordered copy of Alien: Enemy Of My Enemy from Amazon and I couldn't put it down. I finished it in a little over 12 hrs., I loved it. It finally revealed who the border bombers were but I ain't telling, lol. Definitely need to do a video of this book as with all the Titan series books that have a Alien RPG playable scenario included on the last pages of them.
I love these insights into the various stages of the xenomorph. It's never a bad time for some xeno intel and speculation.
100% I love to breakdown each seperate species and sub species!
I remember speculating at one point that the stage 4 xenomorph we see in Alien, and the stage 5 xenomorphs in Aliens, could've possibly been 2 completely separate strains of the same type of bioweapon,
somewhat like the difference between Xenomorph XX121 and the Praetomorph now, but not quite as extreme,
with the drone being specifically made as a hunter or assassin to target smaller groups in isolated areas, and the warriors being specified for open warfare,
another old speculation I had was that it could've been that fertile xenomorphs destined to develop into queens simply possessed a domed head, while ones with ridged heads were sterile hive workers,
I thought of this at the time with consideration that we pretty much never see stage 4 and stage 5 Xenomorphs in the same room in the films,
however I think the best explanation now, is that in James Cameron's Aliens, a very large majority of Xenomorphs simply birthed and grew around the same time, leading to a bulk of individuals being stage 5, with any drones being off camera or elsewhere, we all know bts it's just design choice but we also enjoy in universe explanations,
I think I prefer the more widely accepted explanation of growth stages over my previous speculations.
To be fair, I really don't think that the soldiers were intended to have a higher internal pressure. The more explosive deaths in Aliens can actually be attributed to the ammunition the marines were using. "Lieutenant, what do those pulse rifles fire?" "10mm explosive-tip caseless. Standard light armor-piercing rounds, why?" "Well, look where your team is, they're right under the primary heat exchangers." "So?" "If they fire their weapons in there, won't they rupture the cooling system?"
This is further evidenced when Ripley runs over another soldier with the APC. That one didn't burst apart from any more pressure than simply being crushed, no extra internal pressure to its system.
I know warriors/soldiers are basically drones with the dome taken off but it made them look so much more menacing and animalistic, meaner and uglier, the whole Giger-ish biomechanical bizzaro beauty is gone, now we just get a pure monster
if you include the cocoon stage from Romulus, this would be stage 6 now.
Personally, I actually find the drone / big chap variant scarier than the warrior variant. I guess because it seems more eerie and otherworldly than the more insectoid warrior variety. Not that they are all not very cool. Would love to know what Geiger thought of the later amendments to his design.
Oh totally. The drone/big chap seems like a sentient creature and I think Ridley and Giger approached it as an advanced lifeform anyway it also behaves like a sadistic psychopath. Giger apparently liked the Queen and gave Cameron credits for it but he probably didn't appreciate Aliens basically turned the sentient xenomorphs he originally envisioned as basically space ants/bees
@@Nicholas_Chen_
That’s really interesting, it’s cool he liked the queen, but yes the notion of them being more individualist ties in with the alternate ‘egg morphing’ of the special edition (as well as the whole ‘Texas chainsaw massacre in space’ vibe of a lone nut job taking out the protagonists one by one).
That Dome bein' different bein' part of the evolution is interestin'
Ah yes my warroirs who have one job defend me and my hive. 😇 technically I wouldn't need them if I wasn't so vulnerable when I'm laying eggs oh well
You have luck for have warriors,but where your drones hehe 😂
so if the outer dome melts how does the soldier stage lose its inner human skull lol
we all know thats a loreless redesign but im curious since thats what u stated
So blue warriors can serve a brown queen? And brown warrior can serve a blue queen? I always thought the brown ones served a different hive also sense drones are usually black can they serve a brown queen and blue queen?
It has been stated oficially that the red aliens from that comic were black storywise, they just look red on the comic in order for the viewer to diferentiate the 2 diferent factions, however the red aliens were a mutatiin apart so yes they were diferent in a way.
I don’t agree. The eggmorphing drones and the queen/warriors were a separate xenomorph species. A few years ago i made a video going in more detail about this.
Where has UA-cam been hiding this Alien-lover?
Yeah I’m not sure. I’m hoping with the new alien film and series releases the channel can get some much needed exposure
@@ProjectACHERON Yes, and what you need (and all of us, really) is simply another GOOD FILM again, something we haven’t seen since 1986 (Aliens). The first two-immortal classics. They haven’t gotten anything right since! Anyway, loving your channel here, especially the origin/description of the different classes of xenomorphs. Maybe you can write your own script for a film???… I think we could do better than them at this stage.
I find it funny nowadays the toys use blue colours for the warriors’ exoskeleton I guess it is meant to reflect Aliens’ blue colour palette, even though they have always been black-ish. I also think this stage was canon by accident as Cameron wanted to remove the dome on his free will for Aliens and later he put in a retcon saying ‘it’s a more advanced stage’ which seems more like a save to me 😂
Let's Rock Vasquez 🔫💥 Alien soldier your going down
@@Hicks-g1m Vasquez… a xenomorphs worst nightmare
More please
But is any of this canon?
Aliens
Aliens resurrection
AVP
Avpr
All have warrior aliens. Only two movies featured the rigged head.
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What the hell is the Xenomorph made of, if it’s blood eats thru anything at all, what the hell is inside it’s goofy ass that makes it stronger than steel, but easily penetrated by crude projectiles such as the slug from a bullet? I love the Alien universe, I’m not hating. Only curious.
The insides aren't "stronger than steel" they are simply made of something that doesn't react with the acid. Strength, in that sense, isn't tied to the ability to resist acid, which is simply chemical reactions. As an example, in real life there are acids that would eat right through steel but can be stored in glass no problem.
Seems like they were on the way to being praetorians.
I love the idea of time mummifying away the flesh and leaving the more bio mechanical parts exposed in older xenos
Warriors are definitely the step before the emergence of a praetorian
@@ProjectACHERON Would you classify the praetorian as a class six?
Hudson u r d ultimate badass 4 ever n' ever 👑
Aliens is the worst Alien film, even if we consider all eight main films instead of the Quadrilogy.
Your joking right?
@@BigChaplv426 It's the most stupid, shallow, lowest-common-denominator that turned King Father Giger's precious ones into space ants. It's trash compared with Alien and Alien3, lacks the big swings of Resurrection, Prometheus, and Covenant, and even the horror that the AvP films conveyed when the first one was held back by a PG-13 rating.
It's so mindless and stupid it was going to get adapted into a cartoon for children.
I think you'll like alien Romulus
@@BigChaplv426 ehhhhh..... I'm hopeful, but Disney's nauseating wokeness has me worried. The recent books are disgustingly saturated with it.
Yup, Stage V Xenos, just like the movie poster said," This time it's War". The film pitted soldier vs. soldier, Human and Alien, the conflict was epic and the film classic. I can't wait for the Aliens Expanded Q&A session coming up. I just received my pre-ordered copy of Alien: Enemy Of My Enemy from Amazon and I couldn't put it down. I finished it in a little over 12 hrs., I loved it. It finally revealed who the border bombers were but I ain't telling, lol. Definitely need to do a video of this book as with all the Titan series books that have a Alien RPG playable scenario included on the last pages of them.
Yeah can’t wait to find out more about it I’m only a few hours in so far no spoiler s haha 😂