The best recyclers of food waste are chickens, a few in every backyard with a healthy free supply of eggs to boot. But councils wouldn't allow such a common sense thing these days.
This. Exactly this. I can compost all my own food waste at home, in my own compost heap, feed it to my garden... it costs the Governement nothing. It's not food waste that's clogging up my bin, it's all the ludicrous packaging that nobody needs.
@@dancarmody3789 In our area we have FOGO bins, hasn't really been a problem here. But I do agree on the need to reduce the amount of packaging. Amazon is one of the worst offenders. It doesn't matter what you get delivered from Amazon, it comes in a Amazon box, plus all the manufactures packaging as well. Even a delivery from Menulog comes with way too much packaging. Styrofoam is another material that we can't recycle, so it goes into landfill.
where I live they have a smaller bin for general household waste and a larger bin for FOGO and another for recyclables. The FOGO and recycle bins are picked up every second week on the same day as your general waste.
Methane production occurs primarily during anaerobic decomposition when organic matter breaks down in an oxygen-deprived environment such as landfills or waterlogged areas. Commercial composting uses well managed aerobic and moisture content practices to create much less methane.
Exactly. Imagine if Australia actually had a plastic factory that could use all the free plastic waste collected? Instead since China refused to take it since 2018, it is stockpiled and ends up in landfill anyway. Until the government can find another country to export waste plastics to for recycling! 😮
The FOGO bin is a great idea, badly thought through. Any idea that takes organic waste away from landfill and turns it into compost is a good idea. However, if you have a FOGO bin that is a standard wheelie bin with a green lid there are problems. If you put your food waste in the FOGO bin in plastic bags, then you are cross contaminating the end result with the plastic. Alternatively, if you put food waste into a standard wheelie bin without putting it in plastic bags, you're going to have a pretty smelly bin fairly quickly. For the FOGO bin idea to work the bin needs to be completely redesigned.
It's hardly bizarre. The green bin has been in effect in Victoria for at least 5yrs. We put all the organics in it including cardboard and paper, green waste of course and pet poop and cat litter. Everything that can be composted goes into this bin. Although I do not buy council compost because I know what is in these bins lol. But I'm a veg gardener. As an ornamental plant compost then yes absolutely buy it back from them. Although again, I've never actually seen council compost advertisements but that is what we're told is happening to it. I think its all just getting buried. A public organic waste system is not going to be safe to resell as compost without vigorous testing for contamination.
If food waste is being aerobically composted in a dedicated facility that would work. But as you suggest, it maybe like plastic waste recycling which is actually just stockpiled and ends up in landfill anyway. Since China refused to take our plastic waste from 2018.
1. They should be putting the money into educating people on using more of their food, which will not only cut down on the food wastage, but all save people money from not overbuying. 2. If they implement this extra collection every week, the council rates will go up to match, as in my area they have been going up 3% each year for the last 6 years. This will add to that. 3. Maybe everyone should grow some food, then they can put their waste in the soil to improve it, getting a diesel truck to pick up your scraps every week isn't green either.
The amount of self-entitlement and lack of self-awareness from these presenters are astounding. Try doing a fortnightly red bin disposal with nappies overflowing from the bins, especially with larger families in Western Sydney. Also with the cost of living and lower sociodemographic populations in the Western regions and outer suburbs, people cant afford fruits and vegies, instead opting for cheap processed and packaged (of which some are no recycable) and require the red bin. I understand that sustainability and climate preservation is important for saving the planet for the next generation, but some people can barelu get by tomorrow without another inconvenience like this happening. Screw the 7pm Project.
So many questions here. What difference is there in dumping FGO waste into landfill, only to have it dumped somewhere else so that someone can make compost out of it (which our councils will probably charge us for)? Secondly, isn’t the real problem that people are wasting food, and not where they are putting the scraps? Maybe people should just learn to be more economical and stop wasting food. The occasional egg shell or bone in your bin is not going to make much difference. Where is all of this waste coming from?
The point is reduce food waste.....not how to throw them. Recycle / Reduce / Reuse. If we focus how to dump the waste. This debate can be resolved by making the garbage truck able to collect both Fogo and General Bins at the same time weekly. Halved the truck compartment with two doors can do. But then more fuel consumed to have the truck drive and dump the waste at two different places. However, still less cost compare to doubled the truck and drivers.
It's pretty easy coz where I live there is a small bin picked up weekly for standard household waste snd larger bin for FOGO picked up one week and recyclables the next week.
In a week I have half a litre of food waste consisting of bones, seeds from stone fruits and fruit/vegetable peels. I do not have a green bin. No rates discount for no green bin! Wouldn't running a garbage truck to collect half a litre of waste weekly be an environmental loss? An inflexible solution that cannot match reality.
Don’t we already get this done already? My green bin is picked up weekly but it’s only my partner and I in the household so it’s not full it’s a massive bin too, so it doesn’t fill up on a weekly basis this includes cat and dog poop patrol My yellow bin fulls up more than my green bin because of the bloody packaging, that’s collected during monthly shops This also does not include the bottles and cans we consume during the year as we do return and earn annually My red bin also fulls up heaps more on a weekly basis due to non recyclable plastic packaging, my partner has incontinence due to health issues and therefore relies on incontinence pads that take up room and the cleaning wipes IMO weekly collections for red and yellow bins and fortnightly collections for my green bin is better for my household over another organic bin We don’t waste food in my household! It’s too expensive to waste food
The best recyclers of food waste are chickens, a few in every backyard with a healthy free supply of eggs to boot. But councils wouldn't allow such a common sense thing these days.
You have a backyard? Wow! How big? 😮
Local Councils, the lowest form of life!
FOGO is a waste of time. Try addressing food and consumer packaging. Plastics, polystyrene etc.
This. Exactly this. I can compost all my own food waste at home, in my own compost heap, feed it to my garden... it costs the Governement nothing. It's not food waste that's clogging up my bin, it's all the ludicrous packaging that nobody needs.
@@dancarmody3789 In our area we have FOGO bins, hasn't really been a problem here. But I do agree on the need to reduce the amount of packaging. Amazon is one of the worst offenders. It doesn't matter what you get delivered from Amazon, it comes in a Amazon box, plus all the manufactures packaging as well. Even a delivery from Menulog comes with way too much packaging. Styrofoam is another material that we can't recycle, so it goes into landfill.
we need all three bins collected weekly! Red and Yellow bins need to be collected weekly too
where I live they have a smaller bin for general household waste and a larger bin for FOGO and another for recyclables. The FOGO and recycle bins are picked up every second week on the same day as your general waste.
Doesn't food decomposing in a compost pile still make methane like it does in a dump?
Methane production occurs primarily during anaerobic decomposition when organic matter breaks down in an oxygen-deprived environment such as landfills or waterlogged areas. Commercial composting uses well managed aerobic and moisture content practices to create much less methane.
It's always our problem, not industry or big business.
Exactly. Imagine if Australia actually had a plastic factory that could use all the free plastic waste collected?
Instead since China refused to take it since 2018, it is stockpiled and ends up in landfill anyway. Until the government can find another country to export waste plastics to for recycling! 😮
Red bin every two weeks? That's a joke.
The FOGO bin is a great idea, badly thought through. Any idea that takes organic waste away from landfill and turns it into compost is a good idea. However, if you have a FOGO bin that is a standard wheelie bin with a green lid there are problems. If you put your food waste in the FOGO bin in plastic bags, then you are cross contaminating the end result with the plastic. Alternatively, if you put food waste into a standard wheelie bin without putting it in plastic bags, you're going to have a pretty smelly bin fairly quickly. For the FOGO bin idea to work the bin needs to be completely redesigned.
It's hardly bizarre. The green bin has been in effect in Victoria for at least 5yrs. We put all the organics in it including cardboard and paper, green waste of course and pet poop and cat litter. Everything that can be composted goes into this bin.
Although I do not buy council compost because I know what is in these bins lol. But I'm a veg gardener. As an ornamental plant compost then yes absolutely buy it back from them. Although again, I've never actually seen council compost advertisements but that is what we're told is happening to it.
I think its all just getting buried. A public organic waste system is not going to be safe to resell as compost without vigorous testing for contamination.
If food waste is being aerobically composted in a dedicated facility that would work. But as you suggest, it maybe like plastic waste recycling which is actually just stockpiled and ends up in landfill anyway. Since China refused to take our plastic waste from 2018.
I don't even bother separating as it is, I fill one bin then the next, a third bin sounds good to me
1. They should be putting the money into educating people on using more of their food, which will not only cut down on the food wastage, but all save people money from not overbuying.
2. If they implement this extra collection every week, the council rates will go up to match, as in my area they have been going up 3% each year for the last 6 years. This will add to that.
3. Maybe everyone should grow some food, then they can put their waste in the soil to improve it, getting a diesel truck to pick up your scraps every week isn't green either.
The amount of self-entitlement and lack of self-awareness from these presenters are astounding. Try doing a fortnightly red bin disposal with nappies overflowing from the bins, especially with larger families in Western Sydney. Also with the cost of living and lower sociodemographic populations in the Western regions and outer suburbs, people cant afford fruits and vegies, instead opting for cheap processed and packaged (of which some are no recycable) and require the red bin. I understand that sustainability and climate preservation is important for saving the planet for the next generation, but some people can barelu get by tomorrow without another inconvenience like this happening. Screw the 7pm Project.
Typical inner city late set.
Our council has had this for years. Works well.
Better than plastic waste recycling I hope. Which actually doesn't get recycled...😮
It’s working really well in Victoria….. not😂
All bins weekly! As a large family I need my red and yellow taken just as regularly as my FOGO bin.
So no one contaminates the bin, have a small opening. That way, lazy people won’t bother to discard wrong items due to the lack of convenience.
If you have a garden recycle suitable food waste by putting it back into by your garden.
Compost learn how 😊
Then there is compost for your garden, chickens and worm farms!
A good start in minimising landfill
we already have green waste bins here. picked up weekly.
So many questions here. What difference is there in dumping FGO waste into landfill, only to have it dumped somewhere else so that someone can make compost out of it (which our councils will probably charge us for)? Secondly, isn’t the real problem that people are wasting food, and not where they are putting the scraps? Maybe people should just learn to be more economical and stop wasting food. The occasional egg shell or bone in your bin is not going to make much difference. Where is all of this waste coming from?
Do more for the environment and pay more in rates to enable bin collections. Spoilt 1st world problem.
The point is reduce food waste.....not how to throw them. Recycle / Reduce / Reuse.
If we focus how to dump the waste. This debate can be resolved by making the garbage truck able to collect both Fogo and General Bins at the same time weekly. Halved the truck compartment with two doors can do. But then more fuel consumed to have the truck drive and dump the waste at two different places. However, still less cost compare to doubled the truck and drivers.
More plastic on our planet probably cost the rate payer an extra 200 bucks a quart extra rates lets add to the cost of living !!!!!!!!!!!!
It's pretty easy coz where I live there is a small bin picked up weekly for standard household waste snd larger bin for FOGO picked up one week and recyclables the next week.
My mum put her fogo back in the bin and sent it back to them 😊
In a week I have half a litre of food waste consisting of bones, seeds from stone fruits and fruit/vegetable peels. I do not have a green bin. No rates discount for no green bin!
Wouldn't running a garbage truck to collect half a litre of waste weekly be an environmental loss?
An inflexible solution that cannot match reality.
Don’t we already get this done already? My green bin is picked up weekly but it’s only my partner and I in the household so it’s not full it’s a massive bin too, so it doesn’t fill up on a weekly basis this includes cat and dog poop patrol
My yellow bin fulls up more than my green bin because of the bloody packaging, that’s collected during monthly shops
This also does not include the bottles and cans we consume during the year as we do return and earn annually
My red bin also fulls up heaps more on a weekly basis due to non recyclable plastic packaging, my partner has incontinence due to health issues and therefore relies on incontinence pads that take up room and the cleaning wipes
IMO weekly collections for red and yellow bins and fortnightly collections for my green bin is better for my household over another organic bin
We don’t waste food in my household! It’s too expensive to waste food
Council give household worm farms for each household or so many per units ...worms love food waste ...make compost...use it on your garden ...?
Worms need a small amount of food per week, keeping the condition of the soil healthy for the worms to flourish
What a waste of time.
But they want to use that money for more important things
Do a smaller grain bean an ibigger redbin, it's not rocket science.
Whats the green 🍏 waste bin for then?
we have had a green bin for this for years and its pick up every wed morning
Albury NSW By the way
Really they are like put food waist and garden in purple. and we will pick it up weekly. So then green garden gets extra space ??? Confused all ready.
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