It can mean also 'elephant salad'. There was a legend, that Iulius Caesar ancestor killed an elephant douring second punic war and he was given name 'Caesar', which in Phoenician means elephant.
A trend you may be noticing lately is a shift to stand alone videos. I am in the process of experimenting with this new format as it will allow me to cover more topics and do so at a quicker pace. This video in particular was a proof of concept for doing non-military content. I am particularly curious about whether or not people find these topics interesting and the presentation style entertaining. Let me know what you think
+THFE Productions I personally enjoy these types of videos just as much as your more military focused ones. I'm especially happy if this means we'll see these videos even more often. Thanks for the effort you've put into the videos such as this one they are truly fantastic!
+THFE Productions It is very interesting, i actually prefer these videos above battle videos. I mostly started following you because of your extensive WHFB coverage, i am a WHFB player so i really want to know as much as possible about that game, but i do not have that much interest in battle videos.
+THFE Productions Although videos about the military probably attract a larger audience, I for one find these types of videos even more interesting, as you get to learn about (or speculate about) everyday life in these long-lost societies. *Pros*: Very visually appealing with the calm background and excellent text editing (although font could maybe be slightly larger), background music was calm and suited the topic, voice was clearly audible, length was also appropriate as you focused only on the topic without going on tangents. *Cons*: occasionally you mumble some words (3:57 is an extreme example), and for the love of god, why do you insist on using those damn ugly Rome 1 family tree pictures :P please don't feel tied down to only using pictures and material from the total war series.
"Caesar means hairy" So you're telling that all these royal titles that descended from Caesar (e.g. Kaiser, Tsar) mean "hairy"? All this time I thought it was just a title that meant "ruler"
Actually people are unsure what caesar means exactly, so it's just one possibility. Also, the word 'king ' in English is clearly related to the word 'kin' ie. a family member, but nearly no one would associate the word with that, so later Czars wouldn't know Caesar meant hairy.
You should contact history teachers if you can. I think your videos are a great way to teach children in a way they can easily understand and have fun with. Specially the battles. I know if I were a history teacher I would love to show your content to my students. Specially when they are seeing big ass videogame battles, they would problably be much more engaged.
VERY important battles are only brushed upon by name, date and significance, not how they played out. Even good teachers don't have time to go in depth which means that a good one simply raises their pupils interest which leads to them learning more on their own. Specialized courses and university studylines are of course an exception.
History teacher here, although I love these videos and the game for obvious reasons, it would not be super useful in a basic history class. We simply don't have time to go down fun rabbit holes like this one most often. I suppose, you could show them the part about the naming of women in ancient Rome to broadly make a point about patriarchal societies being the norm across ancient cultures, but other than that you'd maybe have two or three days to cover ALL of Rome in a typical world history class.
@@lancepowers557 fellow history teacher here, you really only got 3 lessons to cover rome? That's impossible to do. Where do you teach? Here in Germany I got at least 3 month (~12x90min) maybe more to cover Rome, and i think that's not nearly enough.
I don't believe there was Gens Quinta. Women only had a nomen. Marcus Antonius' daughter was named Antonia Minor. Emperor Claudius (Tiberius Claudius Nero) had two daughters: the eldest was named Claudia Antonia (after her grandmother), the youngest (Emperor Nero's wife) Claudia Octavia (after her great-grandmother Octavia Minor, Augustus's sister).
@@Xerxes2005 i read somewhere (it was a real historiographic paper though) that women had praenomina too but those where seldom used in the records because who of the male Roman chroniclers would be interested in a woman's personal name, only their family name mattered
I am so glad you've added the Roman terms on your video instead of just stating them. As English is my second language I watch informative videos such as these with subtitles on, and these subtitles unfortunately are often auto-generated. Your method saves me a lot of time.
Fun fact: Nomina is still used in Spanish quite often to say "Salary", besides "Salario" itself wich comes from the pay in salt that romans used to do.
It's a nice twist to all the military video's you post. I really enjoyed this, because this way we learn more about how the romans lived and thinked. Hope you can make more off these video's :)
LOVE this type of videos. I always wondered about the system of naming in Rome, especially when comparing characters in Rome II and Attila. This video offered me a great insight. Thx Oakley
These videos are excellent, they add extra detail and important context to your other videos on Rome. Please keep doing these videos, they truly make the viewing experience more rewarding and more compelling!
In Chine our personal names are broken into Clan character Generational character Personal character Then we have stylized names or usernames Then our posthumous or temple names.
Wow, this actually would make good help to my Total War related stories im hoping to make. thanks Oakley. keep up the amazing work in war and documentary :)
In songs where Latin is used, Anglophones butcher Latin pronunciation, and some even claim my Spanish pronunciation is just as bad, even though Spanish IS Latin with a lot of Arabic influence and softening of sounds, but still retaining the hard ones in the repertoire. One of my favourite songs has bad Latin pronunciation: ua-cam.com/video/5VInr-cSNNU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Equilanora "City of the Dead" by Eurielle. Also this one of Romans chanting while marching: ua-cam.com/video/VkeLkuFzPfM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheHarshWinter "Legio Aeterna Victrix - Roman march. Lyrics." Here they say "Lejonum" instead of "leg ee o num" reflecting the not-so-epic Roman Catholic Latin so similar to Italian in phonology.
I think this was the best. I like how simple the presentation was but yet pleasing to the eye :) and i don't have any problem if you do move on to political or social. Still find it entertaining... But try to keep length on then shortened... Cause it can and might be quite boring if it's too long.. But overall this one was very informing... Thanks for the hard work you put on your vids! 👏👏👏👏👏 love you THFE! You may know I'm a great fan!!! :))))
Great historic documentries. Will you make one about the roman virtues? How and what meant to be a proper roman (let's say in the late republic), Codes of conduct and religious connotation?
+Anon I was going to include the ideas of disciplina and other military values in my history of the legions videos. But it might also be cool to explore the social/religious ones you mentioned
+THFE Productions Thanks for replying. You are historically literate and it gives me great pleasure watching your work. I have always wondered though, what was the moral standart of a young roman. In the West today there is sadly non. No right of passage. No higher authority. Did they read the Illiad, worshiped heroic cults of Diomedes and Apollo? Sacrifices to Athens and Mars? Give me knowledge, pls o Great One! :)
So I am actually taking a Latin Class at my school, this is my second year in it, and we have Roman Personas and all of that stuff, including a Three Part Name. MIHI NOMEN EST NERO CLAVDIVS SENATOR. We have Gens Affiliations and all that, including ways to kill of each other's characters. This was a great video that I even recommended to my Latin Teacher because it might help introduce the First Years better. Ancient Rome's Culture is extremely fascinating if you ignore the stereotypes often ascribed to it.
I find this piece of information quite interesting since my family maintains this kind of tradition (I was named Miguel after my grandfather Miguel, and my father was named Fernando after his, but if you go far enough in my family tree originally all firstborn were named Miguel until my great great granduncle died without heirs and his brother, my great great grandfather, begun to alternate the names). I'm the eighth person on my lineage with my name as far as I can reach haha. Now doesn't seems so improbable for the tradition to have had begun in Roman times!
I think most families had this tradition prior to WW2, I'm English and looking through my family tree you see the exact same names popping up generation after generation as far back as I can trace. Rather than it being a Roman tradition I think it's just what comes naturally
Hey Oakley, what made you so interested in Roman society? (I believe you went to school for Mechanical Engineering?) I'm a History Major here at Rutgers Univ. and I absolutely love the format of your videos. I've read quite a bit by Adrian Goldsworthy and like how you include these prestigious authors rather than wikipedia information. Also, do you add people on Steam? I play Total War quite a bit and would love to 1v1 you sometime. I'm probably not as seasoned as a commander as you but I understand basic tactics (At least Roman). I'm really excited to hear about Late Antiquity Legions. There isn't much information on them, which is a shame because I think the latter armies of Rome have a bad reputation. I don't believe it was the ineffectiveness of the Army that lead to the demise of the Empire but rather the dated (And corrupt) social and economic policies of the elite coupled with ineffective Emperors. I mean, Majorian pretty much took back the Western Roman Empire but was killed because his reform policies pissed off the Senate. The Theme system would be another subject to cover, or maybe the "Renovatio Imperii." Just some suggestions, keep up the good work!
The funniest thing is when someone already stacked with extra names gets adopted by another family with extra names and you get people like Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Cornelianus Scipio Nasica.
About 4 years late, but I'm curious about female names in Rome. For instance, Caligula's sisters were indeed all named Iulia, but all had 'secondary' names (Drusilla, Agrippina Minor & Livilla). So were the names Iulia nomen, and Drusilla etc. praenomen? Or were they praenomen, and Drusilla etc cognomen? Or something else entirely?
Can you put in the description the words you said because i'm watching this for my class assignment and the captions are behind a bit so can you please but the words you said in the description?.
I'm confused. If a person with cognomen received a "cognomen ex virtute", would that person have two cognomina or both names would be considered as one cognomen. Also, could the second (or the second part of the) cognomen be inherited by his children?
Imagine being a roman and trying to name your kid then the dude in the registry office said "Sorry that name is taken, have you tried: xx1Gauis Julius Caesar1xx?
I agree that plebeans could have cognomina - there is Quintus Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus and his sons, for example, of the gens Caecilia -, but Cicero was not a plebean. He was from the equites and therefore, if not patrician, was still an aristocrat. Great video!
Just saying, when an extra cognomen is added to a name, it's called the agnomen. Not only are they added for heroic exploits, i.e. Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus, Africanus being the agnomen for his victories in Africa, they are also used after adoption, i.e. Publius Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus, Aemilianus being his nomen before he was adopted, to distinguish to people.Other than that, great video! Was kind of surprised to see this on this channel, as I was hoping for more military stuff. Keep it going!-Source; Latin Student
+Insert Name Here: _________________________ from what I was reading, the extra cognomen was not necessarily called an agnomen until a bit later down the road. Though these naming conventions do seem to get convoluted pretty quick. Thanks for the additional information though
Hey, I saw the songs you listed and I really love the "Beneath the Sun" one. However, I'm having trouble finding it. Could you mention where you found it or where the group's website is or something? Appreciate it!
@@Carols989 translations of Jenny Prima and Jenny Secunda would be First Jenny and Second Jenny. Still lame, but slightly less lame than Jenny One and Jenny Two.
My name directly translated to this scheme would be Ioannes Aciei Patricius I guess, which sounds pretty ok. Just using my middle name as the cognomen obviously. I don't know if the genitive case actually functions as a patronym though. Just going off my limited familiarity with romance languages.
the tria nomena existed for a long time after the Roman empire though, especially through the dark ages. now a-days we pretty much are content with Duo Nomena.
+Colin Wolcott from what I read it seemed like the tria nomina that the romans used had specific traditions it preserved that became less and less rigorously enforced over time. My guess is that by the medieval period people may have been using the tria nomina but that it did not adhere to many of the earlier traditions
+THFE Productions In Italy the word Nomen have become Nome (name in english) and Cognomen have become Cognome (surname). Until late 1900 there was still the tradition to give the name of your father to your son, but that is now fading away.
Caesar could also be from “Caedo” meaning to cut rather than from “Caesaries” or hairy. After all, it’s not called a C-section birth because the mother is hairy.
Octavius was a Nomen and Cognomen for a period of time. it was never really used as a praenomen For example augustus was first Gaius Julius Octavius what later on changed to Gaius Octavius Caesar when he was adopted by julius caesar. (Yes this is a bit complicated to just explain)
Basicly we can attribute our system of names to the Romans. There are differences. In Scandinavia the surname was derived from the father's given name by appending -son or -sen to the name. Often there was another name from the region. Bergen is a region name associated with Bergen, Norway. In most regions of the United States Bergen is an uncommon name. The exception is New Jersey where Bergen is a common name.
so if we were to break down the name Hadrian was born with: praenomen: Publius nomen: Aelius cognomen: Hadrianus does this mean that hadrian's actual personal name is Publius? if so, is he better known as "Hadrian" because the cognomen took precedence if people knew you more as a celebrity and not as a personal friend?
are you telling me, that caesar salad could mean hairy salad
It can mean also 'elephant salad'. There was a legend, that Iulius Caesar ancestor killed an elephant douring second punic war and he was given name 'Caesar', which in Phoenician means elephant.
The Russian czars were named after Caesar so all hail the great hairy Vladimir Putin
@Caramel Johnson César salad was invented in Tijuana to American tourist they was so hungry and the cooker his name was Cesar.
@@arttro738
So Caesar means elephant.
Well I didn't know that so many nations after Rome were insulting their rulers without even noticing.
If you want people to think you're severely autistic order a Cæsar salad using the classical pronunciation (kai-zar).
Ask me how I know ._.
The name Postumus meant, after death. It was given to those whose father would have died before the child was born.
Like Ladislaus Postumus of Austria for anyone that plays EU4
@@tejdandekar You have the right idea!
you're confusing Postumus, born after his father's death, with posthumous, a modern word pertaining to matters after one's own death.
@@DavidMaurand Isn't that the Latin origin of the word "posthumous"?
@@DavidMaurand no he’s correct thatS why Agrippa Postumus was named that. His birth was after his father Agrippa’s death
There’s been a typo in the title for the last 3 years and no one noticed?
Was wondering that too..
shhhh....
I just did
I noticed it when you pointed it out. I hope they dont cahnge it
I totaly read it as how though.
A trend you may be noticing lately is a shift to stand alone videos. I am in the process of experimenting with this new format as it will allow me to cover more topics and do so at a quicker pace. This video in particular was a proof of concept for doing non-military content. I am particularly curious about whether or not people find these topics interesting and the presentation style entertaining. Let me know what you think
Fine with me, but I would love to see you finish the evolution of the Roman legions
+THFE Productions I personally enjoy these types of videos just as much as your more military focused ones. I'm especially happy if this means we'll see these videos even more often. Thanks for the effort you've put into the videos such as this one they are truly fantastic!
+THFE Productions It is very interesting, i actually prefer these videos above battle videos. I mostly started following you because of your extensive WHFB coverage, i am a WHFB player so i really want to know as much as possible about that game, but i do not have that much interest in battle videos.
+THFE Productions Although videos about the military probably attract a larger audience, I for one find these types of videos even more interesting, as you get to learn about (or speculate about) everyday life in these long-lost societies.
*Pros*: Very visually appealing with the calm background and excellent text editing (although font could maybe be slightly larger), background music was calm and suited the topic, voice was clearly audible, length was also appropriate as you focused only on the topic without going on tangents.
*Cons*: occasionally you mumble some words (3:57 is an extreme example), and for the love of god, why do you insist on using those damn ugly Rome 1 family tree pictures :P please don't feel tied down to only using pictures and material from the total war series.
+THFE Productions Amazing! Just do it!
wow, i didn't know HOT roman baby names were.
"Caesar means hairy" So you're telling that all these royal titles that descended from Caesar (e.g. Kaiser, Tsar) mean "hairy"? All this time I thought it was just a title that meant "ruler"
Actually people are unsure what caesar means exactly, so it's just one possibility. Also, the word 'king ' in English is clearly related to the word 'kin' ie. a family member, but nearly no one would associate the word with that, so later Czars wouldn't know Caesar meant hairy.
@@VuLe-lf4xt Yeah, I've heard the exact opposite before, where Caesar meant "bald one".
@@VuLe-lf4xt Good point!
@@lukematney7062 Oh wow
Meanings change over time. It means that now and that's how language works
You should contact history teachers if you can. I think your videos are a great way to teach children in a way they can easily understand and have fun with. Specially the battles. I know if I were a history teacher I would love to show your content to my students.
Specially when they are seeing big ass videogame battles, they would problably be much more engaged.
To be honest yah that could
Work
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Seto Kaiba I had some ggood ones who did. Just a couple.
VERY important battles are only brushed upon by name, date and significance, not how they played out. Even good teachers don't have time to go in depth which means that a good one simply raises their pupils interest which leads to them learning more on their own.
Specialized courses and university studylines are of course an exception.
History teacher here, although I love these videos and the game for obvious reasons, it would not be super useful in a basic history class. We simply don't have time to go down fun rabbit holes like this one most often. I suppose, you could show them the part about the naming of women in ancient Rome to broadly make a point about patriarchal societies being the norm across ancient cultures, but other than that you'd maybe have two or three days to cover ALL of Rome in a typical world history class.
@@lancepowers557 fellow history teacher here, you really only got 3 lessons to cover rome? That's impossible to do. Where do you teach? Here in Germany I got at least 3 month (~12x90min) maybe more to cover Rome, and i think that's not nearly enough.
so technically a woman could be Called Quinta Quinta
I don't believe there was Gens Quinta. Women only had a nomen. Marcus Antonius' daughter was named Antonia Minor. Emperor Claudius (Tiberius Claudius Nero) had two daughters: the eldest was named Claudia Antonia (after her grandmother), the youngest (Emperor Nero's wife) Claudia Octavia (after her great-grandmother Octavia Minor, Augustus's sister).
@@Xerxes2005 i read somewhere (it was a real historiographic paper though) that women had praenomina too but those where seldom used in the records because who of the male Roman chroniclers would be interested in a woman's personal name, only their family name mattered
@@majan6267 wasn't that a later imperial Roman trend?
I am so glad you've added the Roman terms on your video instead of just stating them. As English is my second language I watch informative videos such as these with subtitles on, and these subtitles unfortunately are often auto-generated.
Your method saves me a lot of time.
Fun fact: Nomina is still used in Spanish quite often to say "Salary", besides "Salario" itself wich comes from the pay in salt that romans used to do.
This one thing bothers me- there was no Brutii gens. The gens for the historical Brutus was Iunii. His name was Gaius Iunius Brutus.
He may have used Brutii by mistake, instead of Bruttia, which was a gens
Oooh, so that's where the word "nomenclature" derived from
All this time, the great kings of Europe have been calling themselves hairy???
Michael Tkaczevski we have the same profile pic :)
Europeans ARE among the hairiest of men as my hairy nipples can attest to.
The quality of your work is amazing.
"Hot! They did it!"
You're doing a great job making these historical videos ! This is maybe why we have a forename a family name and occasionally a surname
It's a nice twist to all the military video's you post. I really enjoyed this, because this way we learn more about how the romans lived and thinked. Hope you can make more off these video's :)
LOVE this type of videos. I always wondered about the system of naming in Rome, especially when comparing characters in Rome II and Attila.
This video offered me a great insight. Thx Oakley
Hi Oakley - currently studying Ancient History at Swansea University and use your channel as a great inspiration - keep up the good work!
Thanks, its always awesome to hear that these videos have helped people : )
These videos are excellent, they add extra detail and important context to your other videos on Rome. Please keep doing these videos, they truly make the viewing experience more rewarding and more compelling!
Awesome, keep doing these videos, they are very interesting! :)
Thanks for clearing this, keep the history videos coming :D
In Chine our personal names are broken into
Clan character
Generational character
Personal character
Then we have stylized names or usernames
Then our posthumous or temple names.
This is very nice a nice break from the battles to see some information about this you should do more of this
Keep making these !! Love it!!
Top notch stuff. Loving these.
Wow, this actually would make good help to my Total War related stories im hoping to make. thanks Oakley. keep up the amazing work in war and documentary :)
Even if I'm not too interested about this argument, I really really liked this video. It's as long as it should be and very clear. Keep it up
So...a person could write his name like Sex. Sans Cummnus?
When you studied latin in school and you know he is not reading the name right...🤪
Yes!!! I'm glad I'm not alone in hearing it 😂
Let's be fair though, Gaius Yulias Kaiser sounds pretty lame
As does Weni Widi Wiki
You had to be that mothereffin n word
In songs where Latin is used, Anglophones butcher Latin pronunciation, and some even claim my Spanish pronunciation is just as bad, even though Spanish IS Latin with a lot of Arabic influence and softening of sounds, but still retaining the hard ones in the repertoire.
One of my favourite songs has bad Latin pronunciation:
ua-cam.com/video/5VInr-cSNNU/v-deo.html&ab_channel=Equilanora
"City of the Dead" by Eurielle.
Also this one of Romans chanting while marching:
ua-cam.com/video/VkeLkuFzPfM/v-deo.html&ab_channel=TheHarshWinter
"Legio Aeterna Victrix - Roman march. Lyrics."
Here they say "Lejonum" instead of "leg ee o num" reflecting the not-so-epic Roman Catholic Latin so similar to Italian in phonology.
Great video, keep up the hard work and the history videos!
I only came here to say that is one of the worst typos to have with that image.
These are really good! Camera, Information, presentation! Keep it up!
I love this videos, keep it going!
Greetings vom germany
Great job once again! Continue making these please! :)
I think this was the best. I like how simple the presentation was but yet pleasing to the eye :) and i don't have any problem if you do move on to political or social. Still find it entertaining... But try to keep length on then shortened... Cause it can and might be quite boring if it's too long.. But overall this one was very informing... Thanks for the hard work you put on your vids! 👏👏👏👏👏 love you THFE! You may know I'm a great fan!!! :))))
Love these historical vids, great job!
Love these videos man, keep up the awesome work
an ammazing video and pretty interesting . i know that it took you a lot of time to make it and i love the result. keep up the good work!!!!
Great historic documentries. Will you make one about the roman virtues? How and what meant to be a proper roman (let's say in the late republic), Codes of conduct and religious connotation?
+Anon I was going to include the ideas of disciplina and other military values in my history of the legions videos. But it might also be cool to explore the social/religious ones you mentioned
+THFE Productions Thanks for replying. You are historically literate and it gives me great pleasure watching your work. I have always wondered though, what was the moral standart of a young roman. In the West today there is sadly non. No right of passage. No higher authority. Did they read the Illiad, worshiped heroic cults of Diomedes and Apollo? Sacrifices to Athens and Mars? Give me knowledge, pls o Great One! :)
Very nice! Do more of these!
So I am actually taking a Latin Class at my school, this is my second year in it, and we have Roman Personas and all of that stuff, including a Three Part Name. MIHI NOMEN EST NERO CLAVDIVS SENATOR. We have Gens Affiliations and all that, including ways to kill of each other's characters. This was a great video that I even recommended to my Latin Teacher because it might help introduce the First Years better. Ancient Rome's Culture is extremely fascinating if you ignore the stereotypes often ascribed to it.
Am I hearing music from "Gladiator" in the beginning? Only a few seconds, but I'm pretty sure
+TheAnakinn just a whisper of it
+THFE Productions I knew it. The music turned a great movie into a truly awesome one
what was the music's name do you know?
I don't, sorry :/
ok thanks anyway dude
Love these vid's, hope to see more of them soon!
excellent video!!! Please keep up.
love your channel
Sertor Caeso Nonus & Opiter are my favorite first names I saw you depicted.
I find this piece of information quite interesting since my family maintains this kind of tradition (I was named Miguel after my grandfather Miguel, and my father was named Fernando after his, but if you go far enough in my family tree originally all firstborn were named Miguel until my great great granduncle died without heirs and his brother, my great great grandfather, begun to alternate the names). I'm the eighth person on my lineage with my name as far as I can reach haha.
Now doesn't seems so improbable for the tradition to have had begun in Roman times!
I think most families had this tradition prior to WW2, I'm English and looking through my family tree you see the exact same names popping up generation after generation as far back as I can trace. Rather than it being a Roman tradition I think it's just what comes naturally
Interesting video, thanks for posting!
Good one Oakley I like this videos that you talk about my culture :)
Hey Oakley, what made you so interested in Roman society? (I believe you went to school for Mechanical Engineering?) I'm a History Major here at Rutgers Univ. and I absolutely love the format of your videos. I've read quite a bit by Adrian Goldsworthy and like how you include these prestigious authors rather than wikipedia information.
Also, do you add people on Steam? I play Total War quite a bit and would love to 1v1 you sometime. I'm probably not as seasoned as a commander as you but I understand basic tactics (At least Roman).
I'm really excited to hear about Late Antiquity Legions. There isn't much information on them, which is a shame because I think the latter armies of Rome have a bad reputation. I don't believe it was the ineffectiveness of the Army that lead to the demise of the Empire but rather the dated (And corrupt) social and economic policies of the elite coupled with ineffective Emperors. I mean, Majorian pretty much took back the Western Roman Empire but was killed because his reform policies pissed off the Senate.
The Theme system would be another subject to cover, or maybe the "Renovatio Imperii." Just some suggestions, keep up the good work!
The funniest thing is when someone already stacked with extra names gets adopted by another family with extra names and you get people like Quintus Caecilius Metellus Pius Cornelianus Scipio Nasica.
Great video!
Really loved the video :)
Really informative, thanks.
Really like this stuff keep it up
Anyone else notice he misspelled how in the video title
I've been taught that "major" and "minor" were also used to differenciate sisters - I don't know if it's true now ! (what about twin sisters ?)
About 4 years late, but I'm curious about female names in Rome. For instance, Caligula's sisters were indeed all named Iulia, but all had 'secondary' names (Drusilla, Agrippina Minor & Livilla). So were the names Iulia nomen, and Drusilla etc. praenomen? Or were they praenomen, and Drusilla etc cognomen? Or something else entirely?
great vid keep it up
Interesting stuff!
I love that video thumbnail!! So cute
I love reading roman exploits, there are so many scipios all related to THE scipio
You should do a video on how the governments of the roman republic and empire works.
More of this please
Pretty nice, is there any battles coming out soon?
Can you put in the description the words you said because i'm watching this for my class assignment and the captions are behind a bit so can you please but the words you said in the description?.
With these naming rules, the Biggus Dickus family would last for eternity.
I study Roman History and finally I watches a good video about the names of the Romans
Thanks. This was very informative i am going to use it for my roma.
Love the series!
Moar! keep checking back to see no updates D:
I'm confused. If a person with cognomen received a "cognomen ex virtute", would that person have two cognomina or both names would be considered as one cognomen. Also, could the second (or the second part of the) cognomen be inherited by his children?
People say you can't learn anything from sitting at the computer...
Great video btw, can't what to know more
Imagine being a roman and trying to name your kid then the dude in the registry office said
"Sorry that name is taken, have you tried: xx1Gauis Julius Caesar1xx?
I agree that plebeans could have cognomina - there is Quintus Caecilius Metellus Macedonicus and his sons, for example, of the gens Caecilia -, but Cicero was not a plebean. He was from the equites and therefore, if not patrician, was still an aristocrat. Great video!
Just saying, when an extra cognomen is added to a name, it's called the agnomen. Not only are they added for heroic exploits, i.e. Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus, Africanus being the agnomen for his victories in Africa, they are also used after adoption, i.e. Publius Cornelius Scipio Aemilianus, Aemilianus being his nomen before he was adopted, to distinguish to people.Other than that, great video! Was kind of surprised to see this on this channel, as I was hoping for more military stuff. Keep it going!-Source; Latin Student
+Insert Name Here: _________________________ from what I was reading, the extra cognomen was not necessarily called an agnomen until a bit later down the road. Though these naming conventions do seem to get convoluted pretty quick. Thanks for the additional information though
Great vid
Hey, I saw the songs you listed and I really love the "Beneath the Sun" one. However, I'm having trouble finding it. Could you mention where you found it or where the group's website is or something? Appreciate it!
Brilliant!!
i have always wondered witch of the names of cesar was the one his friends called him by. good video.
Imagine living with your family and having 80% of all women in the house have the same name...... Roman names are lame
imagine having twins today and calling them like Jenny One and Jenny Two
@@Carols989 translations of Jenny Prima and Jenny Secunda would be First Jenny and Second Jenny. Still lame, but slightly less lame than Jenny One and Jenny Two.
Claudia means lame
DO THE "CERSUS HONORUM" SOMETIME! I think I may have misspelled that but you get the idea!
Aren't the Brutii just a subdivision of the Junii clan? Such as Marcus Junius Brutus and Decimus Junius Brutus.
My name directly translated to this scheme would be Ioannes Aciei Patricius I guess, which sounds pretty ok. Just using my middle name as the cognomen obviously.
I don't know if the genitive case actually functions as a patronym though. Just going off my limited familiarity with romance languages.
can you maybe make a video about hadrian's wall
good stuff
the tria nomena existed for a long time after the Roman empire though, especially through the dark ages. now a-days we pretty much are content with Duo Nomena.
+Colin Wolcott from what I read it seemed like the tria nomina that the romans used had specific traditions it preserved that became less and less rigorously enforced over time. My guess is that by the medieval period people may have been using the tria nomina but that it did not adhere to many of the earlier traditions
okay, cool. I just was thinking about how some people were called by their profession. but I guess that's not really Tria Nomine
+THFE Productions In Italy the word Nomen have become Nome (name in english) and Cognomen have become Cognome (surname). Until late 1900 there was still the tradition to give the name of your father to your son, but that is now fading away.
Caesar could also be from “Caedo” meaning to cut rather than from “Caesaries” or hairy. After all, it’s not called a C-section birth because the mother is hairy.
Octavius was a Nomen and Cognomen for a period of time. it was never really used as a praenomen
For example augustus was first Gaius Julius Octavius what later on changed to Gaius Octavius Caesar when he was adopted by julius caesar. (Yes this is a bit complicated to just explain)
“Yeah, I’ll have a hairy salad please.”
Basicly we can attribute our system of names to the Romans. There are differences. In Scandinavia the surname was derived from the father's given name by appending -son or -sen to the name. Often there was another name from the region. Bergen is a region name associated with Bergen, Norway. In most regions of the United States Bergen is an uncommon name. The exception is New Jersey where Bergen is a common name.
Fun Fact: In romanian personal name is 'prenume' and the family name is 'nume'.
+Conand Skyfire And in Italian the first name is "nome" and the last name "cognome".
the title is reference to how Romans made babies and what the video maker thinks about it... hot! They did it!
Do one for Aztecs plz
could you do videos explaining other factions instead of just Romans?
so if we were to break down the name Hadrian was born with:
praenomen: Publius
nomen: Aelius
cognomen: Hadrianus
does this mean that hadrian's actual personal name is Publius? if so, is he better known as "Hadrian" because the cognomen took precedence if people knew you more as a celebrity and not as a personal friend?
Makes sense. So Gaius Julius Caesar; given name Gaius, clan name Julius, then 'Caesar' for his heroic exploits/emperor-ship
Caesar would come from his sub-clan name. It was on later that people associated the title Caesar with emperor
so napoleon just reinstated this naming convention (partially) when he ruled over france & parts of europe.
Baby names? opposed to adult names?