What usually happens with these types of programs is you often get less than ideal dentists signing up- less busy -usually for a reason. Busy popular dentists won’t be interested. Speaking as a retired dental professional.
It seems to me that the government should have got the dentists, denturist, etc.and the whole professionals fully on board before making a May 1st date. I think it’s referred to “getting your ducks in a row “. Could it be there is an election coming in the Fall?
Dental should be free and part of healthcare!! In England anyone can get braces for free here on Canada a parent can’t even dream of affording braces unless they have a high income
So yah all our Family Doctors are leaving Canada for the U.S because its all private and they are paid what they are worth. Aka noone can get a doctor to. Same thing would happen for dentistry if it became free.
Seniors are already struggling to survive when cost of living is out of control. They are on very low and fixed income. Trudeau government hasn't done much for Seniors.
If you'd listened to the entire thing you'd have heard that the govt is in the midst of getting rid of that requirement. Any dentist is going to be able to access the program in exactly the same way that they access any other insurance plan. Whether they are signed up or not.
So happy to hear this! Having worked in healthcare most of my life, I saw far too many seniors who were malnourished due to having bad teeth or no teeth at all. So many couldn't afford food, let alone dental care. What little food they had had to be mashed or put in a blender.
Well said. I also so the same, it is deplorable to see geriatric people have to endure trying to eat without teeth and more dental problems causes many other illness, including cardiac problems, etc. and most of those people worked their whole life in this country and paid taxes as required...
And I’m so happy to hear that you who worked in healthcare BEGGED for the jabs got them and now we’re wasting 1.6$ billion because no one wants them anymore. You canucks love throwing money down the toilet. Do me a favour. Stop wasting my tax dollars and make sure you and all your healthcare friends boost so we don’t throw any away anymore. Bunch of antivaxxers.
I will tell you what you can expect. I was on ODSP, am on ODSP for 20 plus years for very severe pain. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for what I have. Justin's CDCP has sideswiped ODSP now twice for me. I was about to get a big procedure done for partial dentures and it was planned months ahead and covered for extractions. One week prior to getting it done, my dentist called and told me I had to get the CDCP, although it has NOTHING to do with ODSP and no foresight put into some very sick people. Suddenly and without warning, being told you need to qualify for disability tax credit to get CDCP if you are lucky enough. Why are dentist now refusing and charging? I did get my DTC credit but due to Justins plan, now dentists are wanting CDCP only because of the money processing speeds and likely more money. I was told ODSP wouldnt be touched and hasnt been but means absolutely nothing now to dentists due to the competitive nature, even though i was told it complimented it. Nobody knew what their left vs right hand is doing. The procedure caused a full mouth infection, 3 x that of dry socket and 1 week of it, then being told I owed money. How about an autistic person or something like that and suddenly being refused or charged.
I can’t see this going over well. Dental practices have enough paperwork from insurance providers. The government never thinks things through and it’s always a mountain of paperwork. My friend is a CDA and she told me the dentists in her practice won’t be signing up.
Dentists didn't want to sign up because it was too onerous to do so AND they didn't have enough information on what conditions or other stipulations, paperwork, etc, was going to come with that.. So now the govt is ditching the requirement to sign up. And making it so that any dentist is going to be able to access the program for their patients in exactly the same way that they access any other kind of dental insurance that a patient might have, whether they are signed up or not. (they should have done it that way right out of the gate instead of trying to re-invent the wheel).
Easy. Expect long wait times. Expect a system that treats you as a number and not an individual with your own unique issues. Expect your taxes to go higher. Keep it up canucks. Remember to boost. We’re throwing away billions. You folks just love to waste money.
It is called insurance fraud if you decide to bill remaining 3% on a case by case basis. Does the government allow us to pay less of our taxes on a case by case basis? Is if fair that people on ODSP (Ontario disability plan) only get 4 units of scaling yet those on this plan will receive more? Or how about an employee with a real crapy insurance plan that can only have a check up one time per year and make minimum wage. The idea is wonderful I love that people will have better access to care but the roll out of this program is flawed
in other words, YES you will have to pay something.....there is no free cheese...many dentists don't want to take on the extra paper work .....the catch....a lot of per-authorizations!!!.....and a long wait time to get work done....i haven't seen a gov't program yet that was well thought out....
Please give me a break! "...many dentists don't want to take on the extra paperwork..." What are you talking about? With today's technology, it takes less time to do de documentations in the computer that doing in paperwork!. The paperwork is not true it is a word used, to use and abuse the clients and in this case the Government.
Some insurance companies require pre-authorizations too, and dental offices are able to do that in just seconds (I had an insurance pre-authorization done just today, while I was ON the phone with my dental office to make an appointment for the dental care). And having to pay something out of pocket if the dentist charges more than the fee schedule, or having to pay a certain percentage of the cost out of pocket, is not out of the ordinary either with many other types of insurance.
@@flowc9372 this is my point..you will have to pay something...understandable,however, the determinations and authorizations will be left to govt even though a major insurance company will administer it.....and from experience we know how that goes....
This is horrible. What about DTC who are students and university makes you have their insurance it only covers 900 bucks worth of dental a year and not all procedures even. So you’d have to lose drug coverage and physio to be able to be covered for dental this is Isane. They haven’t thought this out fully So it’s either have meds paid for that Odsp /trillium don’t cover and have to pay thousands a month for meds. And get dental. Or have medicine and not dental!
@@TT-fq7pl Our healthcare system is a total DISASTER! And many healthcare workers are taking advantages of it to force the system for more benefits and salaries... as usual...take advantages when something or somebody is down.
Long wait times, difficulty finding a dentists, etc. Health care is trash and this will be, too. Poor people want this because poor people make poor people financial decisions that make them poor
@@flowc9372 the dental care should be free of charge. In the other hand I do not trust the dentist because we get scammed by 2 so far. One told to my husband he has to remove all the front teeth as his roots are rotten,back in 2009 and put implants instead. We went back home just to find out all his roots are perfectly fine he need it just new crowns. That job lasted until last year,this year we are travelling again in Europe where he will get new zirconia crown on the same roots. Myself I was suffering 3 years in a row because the dentist din not put the final filling in my front tooth where I had root canal done . I was sick every time after I eat and I was told by several doctors ,everyting is in my head. I went in vacation in Cayo Coco and the dentist there told me ,the stomach pain came from an open root canal and she was right. Once my tooth was fixed the pain went away. The dentist ( both- because we decided not to go to the one who lied us about my husban's roots were overcharged our insurance. Ironically one now is working as a consultant for insurance company.
What usually happens with these types of programs is you often get less than ideal dentists signing up- less busy -usually for a reason. Busy popular dentists won’t be interested. Speaking as a retired dental professional.
It seems to me that the government should have got the dentists, denturist, etc.and the whole professionals fully on board before making a May 1st date. I think it’s referred to “getting your ducks in a row “. Could it be there is an election coming in the Fall?
Dental should be free and part of healthcare!! In England anyone can get braces for free here on Canada a parent can’t even dream of affording braces unless they have a high income
So yah all our Family Doctors are leaving Canada for the U.S because its all private and they are paid what they are worth. Aka noone can get a doctor to. Same thing would happen for dentistry if it became free.
Seniors are already struggling to survive when cost of living is out of control. They are on very low and fixed income. Trudeau government hasn't done much for Seniors.
Expect Nothing, then you won't be disappointed by this Lie-beral NDP Scam! 😡🤬😠
They sent dental cards to seniors but no dentist accepted them . Also it seems it's just not true. There's no help so far.
Why in this courty the government allowed the dentist increased so much cost? Why the government is willing to cover the dentist gauging price?
😂😅 Wake up! It's another B/S SCAM from Trudeau and Jagmeet. Most Senior's have Dentures! Bet they don't pay for them!
Dr's need to be signed up to the program, you can't walk into a office that isn't.
If you'd listened to the entire thing you'd have heard that the govt is in the midst of getting rid of that requirement. Any dentist is going to be able to access the program in exactly the same way that they access any other insurance plan. Whether they are signed up or not.
@@flowc9372 it is an option for the Dentist to "try it out" before deciding whether or not they want to participate.
Fill and bill for liberal friends
So happy to hear this! Having worked in healthcare most of my life, I saw far too many seniors who were malnourished due to having bad teeth or no teeth at all. So many couldn't afford food, let alone dental care. What little food they had had to be mashed or put in a blender.
Well said. I also so the same, it is deplorable to see geriatric people have to endure trying to eat without teeth and more dental problems causes many other illness, including cardiac problems, etc. and most of those people worked their whole life in this country and paid taxes as required...
@@lsophialeveryone!!!! It doesn't matter what age
And I’m so happy to hear that you who worked in healthcare BEGGED for the jabs got them and now we’re wasting 1.6$ billion because no one wants them anymore.
You canucks love throwing money down the toilet. Do me a favour. Stop wasting my tax dollars and make sure you and all your healthcare friends boost so we don’t throw any away anymore.
Bunch of antivaxxers.
Can’t afford food but hey here’s money for your teeth…. You voted for this didn’t you?
@theonlyfriedtyguy nope I didn't but thanks for the assumption
How is $90k household income considered middle income?
Rgith!? I'd live like a king on 90k, yes please!
I will tell you what you can expect. I was on ODSP, am on ODSP for 20 plus years for very severe pain. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful for what I have. Justin's CDCP has sideswiped ODSP now twice for me. I was about to get a big procedure done for partial dentures and it was planned months ahead and covered for extractions. One week prior to getting it done, my dentist called and told me I had to get the CDCP, although it has NOTHING to do with ODSP and no foresight put into some very sick people. Suddenly and without warning, being told you need to qualify for disability tax credit to get CDCP if you are lucky enough. Why are dentist now refusing and charging? I did get my DTC credit but due to Justins plan, now dentists are wanting CDCP only because of the money processing speeds and likely more money. I was told ODSP wouldnt be touched and hasnt been but means absolutely nothing now to dentists due to the competitive nature, even though i was told it complimented it. Nobody knew what their left vs right hand is doing. The procedure caused a full mouth infection, 3 x that of dry socket and 1 week of it, then being told I owed money. How about an autistic person or something like that and suddenly being refused or charged.
Lol. typical Trudeau plan, on the go.
Sounds like it. 'We'll figure it out when we get there.'
higher taxes
Healthier people. Pick your battles
Healthier people less medical cost! Priorities. Not like taxes dig a whole in your grave
I'll keep my 100% coverage dental plan for $25 a month.
How did you get a plan that awesome AND cheap!!?
@@flowc9372 I work for a retail pharmacy.
Good for you
I can’t see this going over well. Dental practices have enough paperwork from insurance providers. The government never thinks things through and it’s always a mountain of paperwork. My friend is a CDA and she told me the dentists in her practice won’t be signing up.
Dentists didn't want to sign up because it was too onerous to do so AND they didn't have enough information on what conditions or other stipulations, paperwork, etc, was going to come with that.. So now the govt is ditching the requirement to sign up. And making it so that any dentist is going to be able to access the program for their patients in exactly the same way that they access any other kind of dental insurance that a patient might have, whether they are signed up or not. (they should have done it that way right out of the gate instead of trying to re-invent the wheel).
Poor them.
Not My dentist - Any Dentist - It ain't happening baby.
There aren't that many dentists.
A truedeau fill and bill plan for his friends
Easy. Expect long wait times. Expect a system that treats you as a number and not an individual with your own unique issues. Expect your taxes to go higher.
Keep it up canucks. Remember to boost. We’re throwing away billions. You folks just love to waste money.
It is called insurance fraud if you decide to bill remaining 3% on a case by case basis. Does the government allow us to pay less of our taxes on a case by case basis? Is if fair that people on ODSP (Ontario disability plan) only get 4 units of scaling yet those on this plan will receive more? Or how about an employee with a real crapy insurance plan that can only have a check up one time per year and make minimum wage. The idea is wonderful I love that people will have better access to care but the roll out of this program is flawed
in other words, YES you will have to pay something.....there is no free cheese...many dentists don't want to take on the extra paper work .....the catch....a lot of per-authorizations!!!.....and a long wait time to get work done....i haven't seen a gov't program yet that was well thought out....
Please give me a break!
"...many dentists don't want to take on the extra paperwork..."
What are you talking about? With today's technology, it takes less time to do de documentations in the computer that doing in paperwork!. The paperwork is not true it is a word used, to use and abuse the clients and in this case the Government.
Some insurance companies require pre-authorizations too, and dental offices are able to do that in just seconds (I had an insurance pre-authorization done just today, while I was ON the phone with my dental office to make an appointment for the dental care).
And having to pay something out of pocket if the dentist charges more than the fee schedule, or having to pay a certain percentage of the cost out of pocket, is not out of the ordinary either with many other types of insurance.
@@flowc9372 this is my point..you will have to pay something...understandable,however, the determinations and authorizations will be left to govt even though a major insurance company will administer it.....and from experience we know how that goes....
This is horrible. What about DTC who are students and university makes you have their insurance it only covers 900 bucks worth of dental a year and not all procedures even. So you’d have to lose drug coverage and physio to be able to be covered for dental this is Isane. They haven’t thought this out fully
So it’s either have meds paid for that Odsp /trillium don’t cover and have to pay thousands a month for meds. And get dental. Or have medicine and not dental!
This pretty good for Low Income Families..Purple Gorillaz Was Here. Peace.
Nope, long term it's not.
Poor people make horrible financial plans.
Yes, it's an excellent program. Our health care system is also very good.
@@TT-fq7pl Our healthcare system is a total DISASTER! And many healthcare workers are taking advantages of it to force the system for more benefits and salaries... as usual...take advantages when something or somebody is down.
speaking for yourself?
Affirmative action. 🤢
Long wait times, difficulty finding a dentists, etc.
Health care is trash and this will be, too.
Poor people want this because poor people make poor people financial decisions that make them poor
So I guess your filthy rich?
@@Tjd1982 Well said.
It's either this or continue to have NO dental care at all, if you're poor.
@@flowc9372 the dental care should be free of charge. In the other hand I do not trust the dentist because we get scammed by 2 so far. One told to my husband he has to remove all the front teeth as his roots are rotten,back in 2009 and put implants instead. We went back home just to find out all his roots are perfectly fine he need it just new crowns. That job lasted until last year,this year we are travelling again in Europe where he will get new zirconia crown on the same roots. Myself I was suffering 3 years in a row because the dentist din not put the final filling in my front tooth where I had root canal done . I was sick every time after I eat and I was told by several doctors ,everyting is in my head. I went in vacation in Cayo Coco and the dentist there told me ,the stomach pain came from an open root canal and she was right. Once my tooth was fixed the pain went away. The dentist ( both- because we decided not to go to the one who lied us about my husban's roots were overcharged our insurance. Ironically one now is working as a consultant for insurance company.
Is this for permanent resident?