I didn't know this class. It nails the DD visual style, has both DLCs trinkets and seems fun to play, the three prerequisites for giving it the "consider it as a vanilla class" mod treatment, so I will be trying it ASAP. Also, it would be great if you did an overview of the Slayer and the Falconer.
Glad you liked it, Eduardo! -- Slayer is on the list. Marvin is changing the Falconer but you can bet we'll have a video on it the second he's finished. :)
Well, let's see what good ol' Marvin has planned to do with her. Haven't used her that much, but for what I've seen she's similar to the Arbalest, but with an enemy debuff focus instead of a healing/marking focus. And the Slayer goes beyond being simply a Doomguy homage, he's really fun to play. You can put him in a shuffle party and take advantage of Run & Gun and Reeling reload, or have a self-sustaining frontliner with Biting Blade and Rip & Tear. And if you fight an enemy you REALLY want dead fast, you can use Bound For Glory (BFG), which is a Finale of sorts.
Nice to know moree about the lore of the snek charmer. I totally agree on melody and Vicious charm.. in it's current state is okayish but I like the class myself. It is a crit machine if you build it for combat. Ancient Knowledge trinket is great for it or anything that buffs up blight chance/crit. I love the blight riposte. I've never seen such thing and is cool to see a riposte landing a blight status effect. In the support role, he is pretty nice aswell. Vision Pendant is pretty good, if you are going to be support.. aswell as Melody (CC trinket) to buff up even more his stress heals. Overall a pretty good class that appeared outta nowhere and is well made to be their first class (and his snake pet in the combat animation is cute as hells) x3.
NepuNepus Heart The Thrall clads mod by Marvin Seo has a Bleed on Riposte and the Monk class mod has a party heal on his riposte, so it's not the first class to have such an effect, but it's cool anyway!
This class looks like a great addition to the mod pool. I've pretty much relied on E5 to point me towards every great creator and modded class since I found the channel. Love the videos and your attention to covering all facets of the classes you cover.
Note: I meant to include the notion that Exotic Spices should probably be considered when camping only a single room away from a boss/difficult fight. This makes 2-battle buff duration a bit more sensible and the stress penalty less considerable since you can basically neglect worrying about stress in many boss fights. Also -- I encourage you to play with Vicious Charm and see how it feels to you. Keep in mind, you can use it on a character that has already acted that round, and you could just spend your extra action on cures, buffs, and other actions not impacted by the debuff. :)
ElementFive , just for my information, when are you going to release the mod spotlight reviewing the slayer, next week or next month ( I’m not angry or telling you what to , I just want to know, you did a great job, keep up with the great work)
Vincenzo, I hope to release it in the next couple weeks. I need to finish ~3 other videos I've already begun in the mean time. I have a lot of requests and many friends/modders who are very hopeful that I cover their mods. :)
Current version of rattling trap actually features the snake in question actively being on the battlefield in front of the snake charmer, waiting to strike, slightly swaying while waiting. I also swear it's smiling. Worth noting is also that rattling trap now features a stacking prot buff. That means you can frontline the snake charmer as a trap tank.
You can also combine positions and roles due to his movement skills. I'm currently starting him in Pos 3 with a Crusader in Pos 2. Snake Charmer moves one forward. Then the Crusader now in Pos 3 holy lances forward to put the Snake Charmer back again. Then you can either repeat this, or do riposte or some stress healing if needed It's a fun class and very well done lore wise
If you use him with a plague doctor with more speed than him, you can start a round by using the double stun, vicious charm and then plague grenade. Works really well.
From the looks of how you talked about the free action skill, you left out that you can also give it to someone that has already used their normal action. I like to use that skill on: 1. A front liner that first attacks, then I give him the extra turn to guard, so that the debuff doesn't affect my dmg. 2. On a heal over time skill which isn't affected as much by the debuff. 3. A selfbuff skill
klyxes, Totally! I didn't want to go into the ability too much in hope that folks would experiment with it and because I have a strong feeling it will change. I've also used it on a character who has been stunned simply to "absorb" the stun before the round ends, though the debuffs are still a consideration--but I think your examples are much more efficient!
With Calming Toxin, the idea is that if you have trinkets that lower Blight or face certain enemies which lower Blight Resist then Calming Toxin can be more trouble than it's worth. The advantage is unlike Jester's Stress Heal, you are not compelled to Finale Chain it
Me at the start of the video: oh, this one is probably cool. I have too many classes added though, so maybe I'll try it next run. Me at the end: **downloads and adds class to current run**
Vicious charm is quite good with man at arms as many of his skills (protect, the party wide buffs, setting up riposte) aren't affected by the the penalty and the earlier you get them out, the more you benefit from them.
I really really like this one. For the most part i prefer characters that are not out of place like some others. Btw can you do the falconer? Ive been waiting for that one for a while
this extra action still very stong. You can "cry" with MAA 2 times. Or use both buffs on Leper. You get the idea. Even 2 stuns with -20% is pretty strong.
Very solid class that can use both tank, dps and support. I feeling like his support playstyle is too high risk so I focuse him mostly on rank one as tank/dps with riposte. Him and slayer are good pair since his +10% crit on blight from slayer and +5% crit from snakecharmer are really good together. Basically I just marked enemy with snakercharmer blight then slayer finished it with his great communicator (freaking chainsaw). Combine with jester crit/spd/acc buff this team can wreck everything.
Perfect! I just installed this mod a couple of days ago and I'm loving it! I usually use him in a shuffle party or as a primary stress healer. Another class with really good art that you've yet to review is the Monk - which is a bit more complex. I definitely recommend giving him a go if you haven't already - he works really well with MarvinSeo's Sisters and the Snake Charmer. EDIT: I found the video where you first checked out the class. ua-cam.com/video/gjnooga9Bd8/v-deo.html
I like using the Monk as a healer and secondary stunner, because I like the idea of a healer you can run in positions 1-2, which opens up 3 and 4 for 2 backline DPS. His art also matches the art style pretty well, and I like how he’s the archetypal DnD monk.
Chairman Meow I use the Monk as a Primary DPS and a secondary healer. His archetype is the Diablo monk. Dunno about DnD, never played that. And for me his art is indistinguishable from vanilla. The only thing that bothers me are his stumpy feet. Especially during the Dragon Tail animation, which looks badass otherwise.
that 1, 2, 4 and 5 set up for the skills looks like what I'm gonna try out. is there any chance you will do any more videos on Muscarine's classes? I noticed there are some you have not covered yet.
Question, have any mod content creators thought about a full consumption stock set-up within the Hamlets shop? (Example: Medical manual: creates a random cleansing consumable, like the Anti-venom.)
2 snake charmers + 1 cannonier give turn -40% give turn -40% light the fuse +300% light the fuse +300 % (use herbs here to remove debuffs) then blast one guy to kingdom come or blast them all for good damage
overnerfed again .... i do not agree that this nasty debuff should be part of the extra turn - it makes it pointless, u might as well attack with the snek guy instead :D
It really depends on what you might be trying to do with the extra turn. If for example you're running a finale built jester, this allows you to ramp up the finale faster, or buff your party with battle ballad more than is usually possible (because he will lose the stacks like normal while taking actions, but you can theoretically apply it 3 extra times to the party if you just consecutively use it to give him an extra turn. IIRC it is a duration 4, meaning that at its peak with this method, you'll have twice the maximum bonus to crit and speed, effectively guaranteeing you'll have a full turn of massively monsterous heroes in terms of damage output and speed briefly after the third use. Effectively guaranteeing your entire team goes first and likely resulting in a coinflip to crit on even classes that do not inherently crit often. Practically guaranteeing it from classes like highwayman) It is also worth mentioning that because you can give a turn to someone who has already gone, you can use this to save someone from death's door if your healer has already taken their turn before the incoming damage that put them there. Also because the second action can be applied to a hero that has already moved, provided they take their turn before the snake charmer you can effectively get 1 turn at full capacity AND one turn at slightly more than half capacity in the same round, which can be very useful for stacking buffs/debuffs as mentioned before but also just to do extra chip damage and potentially finish opponents who might otherwise be able to attack and put you in worse condition for it in the next round by barely surviving. I think it definitely has it's places, since keep in mind there is always the possibility of wanting/needing something the snake charmer cannot do ahead of time/in excess of what is usually possible, but this ability makes it so that you can basically cheat and give an extra turn. Even in the case of battle long buffs, this can allow you to do things like Bolster AND activate Riposte with a man at arms on the first turn against brigands, or use both uses of a battle duration buff from the plague doctor to add damage and speed to a hero that is usually slow, getting to have your cake and eat it too by not having to sacrifice two full rounds of the plague doctor's actions to catch them up. This is very useful as well for lepers. I tend to run mind both with withstand and revenge, and let me tell you, being able to have all the defensive buffs from withstand AND the offensive buffs of revenge at round two, and still be able to make him attack twice, once at full capacity if he is faster than the snake charmer, can be really, really devastating. It's a matter of convenience I suppose in terms of buffs and such, but do bear in mind that speed really is key in Darkest Dungeon sometimes. Being able to wreck more enemies in a shorter span of time means they have less time to fuck you over, and that in my book makes this ability worthwhile to bring along even outside of those niche situations of buffs I have mentioned. EDIT: TL;DR there are a lot of situations where classes might have a tough choice to make for first round actions depending on your playstyle. Does my man at arms guard my vestal first, or can I afford them possibly taking some damage/stress and go for the bolster to buff dodge chance hoping that in the event they do target the vestal, she will be able to dodge with the buff? Or in the case of a double buff leper, do I withstand to defend or revenge to attack with more gusto first in case I need to finish something in the front lines super quickly in the next round? The big thing that this ability does imo is allow you to start fights off super strong by letting these classes have their cake and eat it too when it comes to starting the fight.
Hey, thealanjoan! -- There are a couple ways. The easiest is to just follow the link to steam in the description. Subscribe to to the mod and then activate it in the mods menu next to your save file in the game menu. You can also manually install mods from Nexumods if they're on there, and you can only play with modded DD content on PC. Hope that helps!
If you have a blight resistance of 60%, because how darkest dungeon works, a stress heal with blight 50% and a other with 60% will never blight you. If you have a resistance of 50%, the stess heal only has a chance of 0% and 10%. It's also just 1 over 2. The downside doesn't actually exist until someone starts debuffing you.
This class is the embodiment of “Crits are my stress heal”
He’s definitely a nice alternative to Plague Doctor in terms of poison.
Will you also do the guide for Butcher Bird and Monk?
He's more of an alternative to Shieldbreaker, he can't do backline damage as reliably as PD
I didn't know this class. It nails the DD visual style, has both DLCs trinkets and seems fun to play, the three prerequisites for giving it the "consider it as a vanilla class" mod treatment, so I will be trying it ASAP.
Also, it would be great if you did an overview of the Slayer and the Falconer.
Glad you liked it, Eduardo! -- Slayer is on the list. Marvin is changing the Falconer but you can bet we'll have a video on it the second he's finished. :)
Well, let's see what good ol' Marvin has planned to do with her. Haven't used her that much, but for what I've seen she's similar to the Arbalest, but with an enemy debuff focus instead of a healing/marking focus.
And the Slayer goes beyond being simply a Doomguy homage, he's really fun to play. You can put him in a shuffle party and take advantage of Run & Gun and Reeling reload, or have a self-sustaining frontliner with Biting Blade and Rip & Tear. And if you fight an enemy you REALLY want dead fast, you can use Bound For Glory (BFG), which is a Finale of sorts.
3:10 that aint a red hook, that shit's a Bad Dragon Item.
Nice to meet a fellow man of culture.
It wouldn't surprise me at all with a snake charmer.
Nice to know moree about the lore of the snek charmer. I totally agree on melody and Vicious charm.. in it's current state is okayish but
I like the class myself. It is a crit machine if you build it for combat. Ancient Knowledge trinket is great for it or anything that buffs up blight chance/crit. I love the blight riposte. I've never seen such thing and is cool to see a riposte landing a blight status effect.
In the support role, he is pretty nice aswell. Vision Pendant is pretty good, if you are going to be support.. aswell as Melody (CC trinket) to buff up even more his stress heals.
Overall a pretty good class that appeared outta nowhere and is well made to be their first class (and his snake pet in the combat animation is cute as hells) x3.
NepuNepus Heart The Thrall clads mod by Marvin Seo has a Bleed on Riposte and the Monk class mod has a party heal on his riposte, so it's not the first class to have such an effect, but it's cool anyway!
Oh. I know. but I meant a blight riposte.
This class looks like a great addition to the mod pool. I've pretty much relied on E5 to point me towards every great creator and modded class since I found the channel. Love the videos and your attention to covering all facets of the classes you cover.
That's amazing to hear, Bunny! Thanks very much. Lots of amazing content out there! :D
Bunny The Guy right?
Note: I meant to include the notion that Exotic Spices should probably be considered when camping only a single room away from a boss/difficult fight. This makes 2-battle buff duration a bit more sensible and the stress penalty less considerable since you can basically neglect worrying about stress in many boss fights.
Also -- I encourage you to play with Vicious Charm and see how it feels to you. Keep in mind, you can use it on a character that has already acted that round, and you could just spend your extra action on cures, buffs, and other actions not impacted by the debuff. :)
ElementFive , just for my information, when are you going to release the mod spotlight reviewing the slayer, next week or next month ( I’m not angry or telling you what to , I just want to know, you did a great job, keep up with the great work)
I was thinking the same thing, 2 battles ain't much in a normal dungeon, but for a boss it's perfectly valid.
Vincenzo, I hope to release it in the next couple weeks. I need to finish ~3 other videos I've already begun in the mean time. I have a lot of requests and many friends/modders who are very hopeful that I cover their mods. :)
Thanks for the information.
Seems like it’d be amazing to use for guards/ripostes and team buffs, like the jester or the plague doctor
Current version of rattling trap actually features the snake in question actively being on the battlefield in front of the snake charmer, waiting to strike, slightly swaying while waiting.
I also swear it's smiling.
Worth noting is also that rattling trap now features a stacking prot buff. That means you can frontline the snake charmer as a trap tank.
You can also combine positions and roles due to his movement skills. I'm currently starting him in Pos 3 with a Crusader in Pos 2. Snake Charmer moves one forward. Then the Crusader now in Pos 3 holy lances forward to put the Snake Charmer back again. Then you can either repeat this, or do riposte or some stress healing if needed
It's a fun class and very well done lore wise
snek
If you use him with a plague doctor with more speed than him, you can start a round by using the double stun, vicious charm and then plague grenade. Works really well.
From the looks of how you talked about the free action skill, you left out that you can also give it to someone that has already used their normal action. I like to use that skill on: 1. A front liner that first attacks, then I give him the extra turn to guard, so that the debuff doesn't affect my dmg. 2. On a heal over time skill which isn't affected as much by the debuff. 3. A selfbuff skill
klyxes, Totally! I didn't want to go into the ability too much in hope that folks would experiment with it and because I have a strong feeling it will change. I've also used it on a character who has been stunned simply to "absorb" the stun before the round ends, though the debuffs are still a consideration--but I think your examples are much more efficient!
With Calming Toxin, the idea is that if you have trinkets that lower Blight or face certain enemies which lower Blight Resist then Calming Toxin can be more trouble than it's worth.
The advantage is unlike Jester's Stress Heal, you are not compelled to Finale Chain it
Me at the start of the video: oh, this one is probably cool. I have too many classes added though, so maybe I'll try it next run.
Me at the end: **downloads and adds class to current run**
Very nice, adding more info on the unique trinkets for the class. Really helpful and entertaining, thanks :)
Another great guide. I don't know if you take suggestions, but would you mind make a guide to Butcher bird class.
Vicious charm is quite good with man at arms as many of his skills (protect, the party wide buffs, setting up riposte) aren't affected by the the penalty and the earlier you get them out, the more you benefit from them.
Ah, the scales tattoos limit you to minimum damage, I misunderstood there.
I thought it raised the minimum damage threshold of melee attacks.
Thats how i understood it as well.
Pretty interesting class. I’m using it for a week now. Your video is very nice (as always). I think that I underrated his mamba dance ability
I really really like this one. For the most part i prefer characters that are not out of place like some others.
Btw can you do the falconer? Ive been waiting for that one for a while
shobruno, Marvin told me that he's changing the Falconer. I plan to get a video out on it as soon as it's done. :)
ElementFive owww biblethump havnt finished my vanilla DD yet so i have some time ahhahah
this extra action still very stong. You can "cry" with MAA 2 times. Or use both buffs on Leper. You get the idea. Even 2 stuns with -20% is pretty strong.
Good thing you can use herbs to remove the vicious charm debuff
Very solid class that can use both tank, dps and support. I feeling like his support playstyle is too high risk so I focuse him mostly on rank one as tank/dps with riposte. Him and slayer are good pair since his +10% crit on blight from slayer and +5% crit from snakecharmer are really good together. Basically I just marked enemy with snakercharmer blight then slayer finished it with his great communicator (freaking chainsaw). Combine with jester crit/spd/acc buff this team can wreck everything.
Perfect! I just installed this mod a couple of days ago and I'm loving it!
I usually use him in a shuffle party or as a primary stress healer.
Another class with really good art that you've yet to review is the Monk - which is a bit more complex. I definitely recommend giving him a go if you haven't already - he works really well with MarvinSeo's Sisters and the Snake Charmer.
EDIT: I found the video where you first checked out the class. ua-cam.com/video/gjnooga9Bd8/v-deo.html
I like using the Monk as a healer and secondary stunner, because I like the idea of a healer you can run in positions 1-2, which opens up 3 and 4 for 2 backline DPS.
His art also matches the art style pretty well, and I like how he’s the archetypal DnD monk.
Chairman Meow I use the Monk as a Primary DPS and a secondary healer.
His archetype is the Diablo monk. Dunno about DnD, never played that. And for me his art is indistinguishable from vanilla. The only thing that bothers me are his stumpy feet. Especially during the Dragon Tail animation, which looks badass otherwise.
The only mod class that feels like a real DD hero
Great vid, and great series, too!
Have you played with s-purple's Omen Seeker and Slayer classes yet? Could you do guide vids on both of them, please?
downloaded this guy, looks cool. I think this guy could easy be part of the roster, the art style is spot on.
This hero is very well designed and very well balanced.
Could you do a video about the Condena ? She gets to add an action to a party member too, at the cost of a speed debuff on the whole party.
Adorable :D
that 1, 2, 4 and 5 set up for the skills looks like what I'm gonna try out.
is there any chance you will do any more videos on Muscarine's classes? I noticed there are some you have not covered yet.
Question, have any mod content creators thought about a full consumption stock set-up within the Hamlets shop? (Example: Medical manual: creates a random cleansing consumable, like the Anti-venom.)
Great review! Didn't really use him, although I like the kit. Might I suggest the Monk as the next class you could review?
Mithridatism with the Fool. Yes.
You should do the class mod Daughters of the Four!!
2 snake charmers + 1 cannonier
give turn -40%
give turn -40%
light the fuse +300%
light the fuse +300 %
(use herbs here to remove debuffs)
then blast one guy to kingdom come or blast them all for good damage
You actually can't remove debuff with herbs.
Since Color of Madness?
Bring some Medicinal Herbs and don't worry about the Vicious Charm's debuff.
Medicinal herbs dont work on that debuff. It would be too Overpowered
is this reposte attack a melee or a ranged attack or not specified (concerning trinkets that give for example + damage or acc on melee or ranged)?
Nice! Now the only question is, what’s the best snake ship. SC+SB, SC+Lamia or SB+Lamia with SC being forever alone =p
Doesnt play DD but still love ur vids.sr for asking too much.
So occultist but stress healing and damaging?
*Master the sneks*
Rip no new video
Lore-wise would the Snake Charmer have an effect on the Lamia? She having the ability to “go snake”.
Just a thought
Andrés A it’s an inside joke to E5’s stream. Whenever he has the Lamia drop her facade, E5 and the chat yell GOIN’ SNAKE!
just bought the DLCs should i mod in classes such as these or go in with just the base game?
Hello. Would it be possible to get a non-Steam version of this mod? I'm playing on GOG and always wanted to play it.
usually the backstories have a tragic event? is there any that doesn´t?
What mod is that ninja guy at 1:33
I guess its Phantom
But im not 100% sure..
This character seems overpowered
maybe sneak charmer is linked with Miasmal Orchard discrit?
Rycyk zAushwitz He benefits from the athenaeum. It's a double-edged sword for his blight skills and calming toxin.
I meant….
His lore is somehow related
overnerfed again .... i do not agree that this nasty debuff should be part of the extra turn - it makes it pointless, u might as well attack with the snek guy instead :D
Maybe the debuff should only last 1 round.
The ability to get another guard or heal off (to get someone off deaths door) is actually huge.
Besides, you can just bring herbs to cure the debuff.
Herbs cannot clear this debuff, it works like the Hellion's debuff
It really depends on what you might be trying to do with the extra turn. If for example you're running a finale built jester, this allows you to ramp up the finale faster, or buff your party with battle ballad more than is usually possible (because he will lose the stacks like normal while taking actions, but you can theoretically apply it 3 extra times to the party if you just consecutively use it to give him an extra turn. IIRC it is a duration 4, meaning that at its peak with this method, you'll have twice the maximum bonus to crit and speed, effectively guaranteeing you'll have a full turn of massively monsterous heroes in terms of damage output and speed briefly after the third use. Effectively guaranteeing your entire team goes first and likely resulting in a coinflip to crit on even classes that do not inherently crit often. Practically guaranteeing it from classes like highwayman)
It is also worth mentioning that because you can give a turn to someone who has already gone, you can use this to save someone from death's door if your healer has already taken their turn before the incoming damage that put them there. Also because the second action can be applied to a hero that has already moved, provided they take their turn before the snake charmer you can effectively get 1 turn at full capacity AND one turn at slightly more than half capacity in the same round, which can be very useful for stacking buffs/debuffs as mentioned before but also just to do extra chip damage and potentially finish opponents who might otherwise be able to attack and put you in worse condition for it in the next round by barely surviving. I think it definitely has it's places, since keep in mind there is always the possibility of wanting/needing something the snake charmer cannot do ahead of time/in excess of what is usually possible, but this ability makes it so that you can basically cheat and give an extra turn. Even in the case of battle long buffs, this can allow you to do things like Bolster AND activate Riposte with a man at arms on the first turn against brigands, or use both uses of a battle duration buff from the plague doctor to add damage and speed to a hero that is usually slow, getting to have your cake and eat it too by not having to sacrifice two full rounds of the plague doctor's actions to catch them up. This is very useful as well for lepers. I tend to run mind both with withstand and revenge, and let me tell you, being able to have all the defensive buffs from withstand AND the offensive buffs of revenge at round two, and still be able to make him attack twice, once at full capacity if he is faster than the snake charmer, can be really, really devastating. It's a matter of convenience I suppose in terms of buffs and such, but do bear in mind that speed really is key in Darkest Dungeon sometimes. Being able to wreck more enemies in a shorter span of time means they have less time to fuck you over, and that in my book makes this ability worthwhile to bring along even outside of those niche situations of buffs I have mentioned.
EDIT: TL;DR there are a lot of situations where classes might have a tough choice to make for first round actions depending on your playstyle. Does my man at arms guard my vestal first, or can I afford them possibly taking some damage/stress and go for the bolster to buff dodge chance hoping that in the event they do target the vestal, she will be able to dodge with the buff? Or in the case of a double buff leper, do I withstand to defend or revenge to attack with more gusto first in case I need to finish something in the front lines super quickly in the next round? The big thing that this ability does imo is allow you to start fights off super strong by letting these classes have their cake and eat it too when it comes to starting the fight.
Fivex?
>"He has 4 unique camping skills"
>one is just resupply with one less use
bruh
True!
okay, weird question but how to download the class mod and put in the game ?
Hey, thealanjoan! -- There are a couple ways. The easiest is to just follow the link to steam in the description. Subscribe to to the mod and then activate it in the mods menu next to your save file in the game menu. You can also manually install mods from Nexumods if they're on there, and you can only play with modded DD content on PC.
Hope that helps!
can you ell how to do manually install the mod?
@@thealanjoan ur dd was non-steam? just download from nexus and extract the file to the mods inside darkest dungeon file
Do the condena plz!!
Wow R.I.P. notifications ooofff
If you have a blight resistance of 60%, because how darkest dungeon works, a stress heal with blight 50% and a other with 60% will never blight you.
If you have a resistance of 50%, the stess heal only has a chance of 0% and 10%. It's also just 1 over 2. The downside doesn't actually exist until someone starts debuffing you.
Snek charmer
Snek Hug
How is this a how to play? You just made a mod review.
Grab the class and play a single mission and explain what you are doing while winning.