Tbh, every time I learn about one they seem like they would've been super fun. Disney's only mistake was not building all these regional attractions next to my house because I'd have done my best to keep them afloat singlehandedly!
Wait, let me get this straight, Disney employee: so we have these giant balloons what do you want us to do with them? Michael Eisner: ehh just bring 'em to state fairs (A few months later) Disney employee: uh sir, the show is getting to expensive to run- Michael Eisner: just jack up the price (Attendance drops) Michael Eisner: well we failed
Disney employee: Not again! Michael Eisner: Not to fear, we have many other good concepts for the Disney Decade. *Proposes 30 story Mickey Mouse figure hotel*
Michael Eisner had the idea but failed to move the Disney's Failing State Fair to Mickey's star land @ WDW and that could have been a perfect expansion no pun intended probably most of the reasons where the bulk of the upkeep went towards the purchase of the amount of helium use for all of those balloon from small party balloons to large scale sage show could you imagen how much that would cost Disney over a span of a few years in the test run second to many kids where getting high-pitched voices from the helium where used their and lasting for a few days because the parents where all getting annoyed with it and third the cost of ticket cost where getting to expensive for the average joe family.
I mean, at least Paradise Pier goes for the same vibe as Boardwalk, which is so classy as to itself distance itself from the state fair's grimey, dirty, cheap aesthetic. Dino rama on the other hand.... So I worked at Dino rama, and let me tell you. That area was so cheap, the break room was a little, musty, muggy little room with barely working AC hollowed out of the nearby stone wall that's part of the excavation attraction (it can literally only fit about 5 people comfortably before it gets too crowded.) The rides were ill designed (aimed at very small kids...but one of them was too extreme for little kids that we had a large height restriction). Most people complained about neck pains from that ride. Both were outdoor rides so both closed during rain. Both rides are literally the only ones in the parks to NOT be built by disney and were instead just repurposed offmarket existing rides. And the worst part? DIsney played it off as "well, the lore of the area is that it's SUPPOSED to be crap. That's the charm!" Honestly, the ONLY bit that works in that area is the chester and hester's shop as a sort of add on to the dinosaur ride. Otherwise, it sticks out like a sore thumb at Animal Kingdom and really makes it seems like America is just the worst. You have all these extremely detailed, faithful lands in Animal Kingdom, all of them embellishing the animals they feature, and show off some of the traditions, culture, and timeless architecture of their respective countries....and America gets a concrete hick town. So the Dinosaur ride and the paleontology themed stuff works if only because it has a Jurassic Park/jungle academic feel, but the rest feels off.
@@poego6045 Yeah, tell me about it. Just walking around that land made me feel weird and not even my parents who were die-hard vacation club Walt Disney World veterans thought the area was any good. I really hope the whole place gets replaced with something better.
@@poego6045 I figure the whole idea of a nostalgic carnival- or boardwalk-amusement-themed land like Paradise Pier was something Disney just had to get out of their system: there was going to be one at the never-built Long Beach DisneySea, and there was going to be one at the never-built Disney's America. Still doesn't explain Dino-Rama...
I actually remember going to this when I was little. I don't remember all of the details of it, but I do remember some moments from the show. I think there was a machine on stage that could turn any object into a balloon. At one point Aladdin is on stage and the magic lamp ends up in the machine. Suddenly there's a gigantic inflatable Aladdin's lamp there which then opened up to reveal that Genie was still inside. Obviously he was a gigantic 20-30 ft tall balloon too. The second tent where all of the activities were is mostly what I remember. The Hook's Revenge maze was really cool. It was a combination of balloon inflatables and plywood cut-outs of different Disney Villains, but mostly Captain Hook and his Pirates. I must have run through that maze about 5 or 6 times in a row. Rob thanks for making this video. I had always remembered that this was a thing that had happened and I had memories of, but I never knew anyone else who went or knew what I was talking about. The fact that this only ran in Arizona makes me feel incredibly fortunate to have seen something so crazy and experimental. I wish I could go back and see it again, it was something special, even if it was a failure.
I went to this too. Do you remember some sort of helicopter being on the stage, or maybe like an inflatable one? I do remember the stage darkening, to reveal new scenes, though. Could have been something like that. Also, do you remember any of the inflatable suit people walking around blowing air under people's seats?
@@daniellanglois89 That is entirely possible. I don't really remember much about the show other than the part with Genie. I do have a vague memory about different costume characters coming out into the audience, Buzz and Woody were there. But other than that I don't have much memory of the rest of the show. :(
I went to this show at the Arizona State Fair when I was a child. The character in the yellow suit pictured in the upper right corner at 2:41 would walk around at some point during the Mickey Mouse stage show, and if I remember correctly he used the wand attached to his back to blow blasts of air behind people's seats, causing a whoopee-cushion sort of effect. I also remember the Balloon-Topia Area, it amazed me and seemed very impressive as a kid. I had never seen anything like it before. I remember running through the inflatable obstacle course. It was huge! There was a bunch of stuff to do in there. I wish I could remember it all better! Rob, I would like to thank you for making and uploading this great video. You brought back some good memories for me. I've actually been thinking about this specific event for years, and could never remember exactly what it was or what it was called. I wonder if anyone has a Home Video of the Mickey Mouse Stage Show, I would love to see it.
@@MidwaytoMainStreetFound it guys! It's official name was "The Scenic Spiral Wheel" but collectively known as "The Top" Video about it here: ua-cam.com/video/XtWHd6f9wsM/v-deo.html
You are getting so good at doing these videos. The editing is awesome and I love the unique rob plays style lol keep on making awesome content! It’s awesome to see how much your channel has grown over the last 4 years! I remember when I first started watching back in the sims 4 Chet chesterfield and OG Minecraft Disney days. Looking forward to the future of your channel!
I was in this show. I remember a bunch of the cast running through the Balloonatopia area between shows. So much fun. Some really wonderful people worked on this.
I worked for the Disney fair in Puyallup Washington. Still have my shirt, name badge and flyers from the fair. Best time of my life. Thanks for the video. Brought back a lot of memories.
One of the best things about companies that have as much money as Disney is that they can try and fail again and again and not worry about going out of business.
Disney Quest was nothing more than Eisners attempt to compete with his revival Katzenberg with DreamQuest both of Witch failed in different ways. They never would of done indoor entertainment if DreamWorks never did so
3rd! I can't even imagine Disney having a state fair. They both seem like 2 very different thing (Disney and state fairs) I can't picture them together.
I remembered going to DisneyFest when I was a kid. I couldn’t remember what the whole event I was at until I saw this video. I still have old photos of myself there.
In 1987 & 1988, Disneyland had State Fair Days during the Summer. Great Memories for me like Pigmania, easy to win prizes at Carnival Games, and a State Fair Parade. It also introduced and 30 years of "Billy Hill and the Hillbillies ".
Exactly i wondered why he did not mention it in the video..they also had a human "cannon ball" (Captain Zoom) Some photos can be found here: mickeymousepark.com/disneyland-parade.aspx?Page=11&Ident=632
6:35 If anyone's wondering what that PSI indicator in the top left was, that was because the video was captured during one of the times Singapore had to put up with a haze originating from illegal deforestation operations in Indonesia. These days, two indicators are used, one of them being PM2.5.
Interesting! Even failed experiments teach useful lessons, and I do admire Disney for looking into ways to spread the magic to markets too small or too thinly populated to support a park or resort full time.
Attaching itself to an already existing fair was asking for trouble, as it's a comparison in prices. Stand alone it would have faired much better, excuse the pun :D
DisneyFest was basically Disney's way to introduce the brand to the Asian Market. It began in Singapore, then it moved to Taiwan, according to what I've seen in Instagram. It was so popular compared to the original Disney Fair
I google translated several Disneyland rides and the result is hillarious. The haunted mansion becomes "the castle" Pirates of the Caribbean becomes "Caribbean islands are pigeons" Autopia becomes "utopian" Peter Pan's flight becomes "Peter Pan" And Great moments with Mr. Lincoln becomes "Mr Lincoln is a good time"
Based on my one time attendance at the Delaware State Fair, at least some state fairs ARE bad. The livestock, flowers, and vegetables are fine, but then there's the freak show, like “Angel the Snake Girl,” advertised as having the "head of a beautiful woman and the body of an ugly 200-pound snake" and at least two "worlds smallest little persons." I'm not sure that Disney would be up for that.
I remember being told, very seriously, by a Disney exec at that time that they considered your doctor and dentist as competition, because after all, you spent time and money at your doctor and dentist, and you could have been giving that money to the Walt Disney Company. So they were seriously looking at marketing campaigns to get you to go to Disneyland rather than your doctor. No Joke. (I thought it was, but they were dead serious. They felt they were entitled to that money of yours.)
I love how Eisner era Disney could afford to throw 30 million at something like this, but then claimed it wasn't in the budget when it came to fixing the fireflies in Pirates of the Caribbean when they stopped working.
This causes me to LAUGH!!! Management trying to re-invent the wheel. Disneyland was originally Disneylandia (a traveling rail show that would stop in major cities with miniature 3-D animated figures) the precursor to Audio Animatronics. American vignettes were to entertain guests that plunked coins into the slots to bring the shows to life. It was decided that between the amount of coins + the use of a cities spurs or sidings to present the show = $$$ to the city. Not enough coins to sustain a profit. That's why a permanent location was chosen to keep down cost. Hence Disneyland in glorious Anaheim, CA. LOL
Rob, where do you get this information? I worked for WDW Marketing as a Senior Media Buyer from 1990 to 2000 and never heard anything about this. Where was this started? West Coast? Good video again...
Primarily news outlets. I've recently been appending a source list to the end of my descriptions. Came across this specific topic in an old article I came across while researching a previous topic.
But it is awesome that a company is so successful that they can get an idea, run with it, and if it doesn't work.....no big deal, no blood-no foul. Taking those opportunities is what leads to finding great ideas that work.
This seems reminiscent of a collossal failure of a Marvel-themed traveling show that attempted to do something similar in 2016...luckily, I lived in the second stop city, San Diego and got to experience it, and it was really fun, but, again, expensive and not-well attended. Thus, we were also the LAST stop of what was supposed to be 12 cities
Wait, Washington State Fair? As in the Puyallup Fair back then? I went there every year since I was a kid until I moved to Nevada in 2006. I likely would've been there when this happened, how come I don't remember this?
I worked the Disney Fair show at the Puyallup fairgrounds in 1996 and I don't think it was marketed all that well. It was situated behind the fair in a parking lot, so unless you knew it was there you wouldn't have seen it. I don't remember it ever being more than half full if that much, but I was only in the inflatable tent so I can't vouch for the rest.
I feel like this is, unfortunately, the way the Disney Store is going as well. There are only two left in my state when there used to be dozens in the 1990s.
The traveling Disney on Ice and stage shows may have benefited from this failure. Same general premise of “Disney comes to you” but they are the only attraction.
@@MidwaytoMainStreet I'd love to have experienced the elaborate dark ride that gave that park its name--a pre-Disney "Trip to the Moon" on a winged airship, with actors in weird costumes playing Lunarians.
I think Disney World is going to be headed in the same direction with their newly implemented (or, soon to be implemented) "photographer in a box"- they're going to run into people who simply don't want to pay that much money for automatic photos- neither on rides nor meeting characters. Given all the backlash they received the day it was announced, many people aren't going to want to pay the price for the FEW manually-shot, high-quality, "customized" (as opposed to generic, literal point and shoot) photos they will get in addition to the dozens of automatic photos. I can see people opting to not use their memory maker during these particular character meet n greets, and instead choosing to use their own cameras to take pictures or videos. People don't WANT to pay big bucks for something if the value just isn't there. I'm not saying it wouldn't have quality, but.... quality vs value.... most people go for value. And there is more quality in manually-taken photos than there is in automatic photos, thus lowering the value. Disney is headed definitely also in the same direction with everyone getting tired of price hikes. Of course the new people are going to pay because they don't know any better, but... long-time guests and fans sure do know and may stop coming or will look for other ways to make their money worth it that Disney isn't prepared for.
@@brianford8716 Don't know how this turned into a minimum wage issue, but as it turns out, Disney doesn't need to jack up prices to pay people fairly. Minimum wage has not kept up with inflation, and Disney used to make it work. There are certainly other ways they can cut costs to make ends meet - not that they don't have the profits already to support this. This is an unnecessary money-grab and regardless of minimum wage, the OP was about the experience being lessened. In the past, high operating cost has not deterred Disney if the experience is quality.
@@brianford8716 I doubt it..... they are supposed to be stationary cameras in a fixed box in a fixed location that will take 5 to 7 photos at set intervals throughout the course of the interaction. And without regard to what is in front of it or what is going on. Every other trial they have had with these cameras has come with HIGHLY NEGATIVE feedback from guests and tech/specs standpoint, but the fact they're going forward with it despite the negative push says yes, they are money pinching and no, they don't care about their employees. It sucks for all these people who voted for the raise and to get their hopes up like "yes! I'm going to get a raise!!" only to be told, "sorry, we're cutting your job!" What a slap in the face...... I'd be PISSED if that was me.
I kinda agree with what you say but I'm still paying to go to their parks. Starting next year til their 50th on 2021 there will be a lot of new stuff. I'm even saving up to stay at that new Star Wars hotel even though it's not being built yet. Don't generalized people based on what you feel. People are still paying and the parks are still crowded even with price increases which personally doesn't bother me.
@@gissneric Oh of course people are still going to pay. I will still pay to go to do Disney things, too. But people aren't going to want to spend money on things they don't think are valuable. For example, the camera boxes. If people don't think there's value in that, they won't spend money on it. If people don't think there is value in spending money for a certain dining experience, they won't spend money on it. If people don't think there's value in a certain hotel experience, they won't spend money on it. If the value of things keeps going down and the price keeps going up (or staying the same as when there WAS value), there will be that threshold that eventually everyone, myself included, will meet. I don't foresee that coming for a long time, personally- Disney does tend to redeem themselves in other ways to make me want to spend money, but I have seriously considered exactly where I want to spend my money. For me, I'd rather spend a chunk of my money on the parks, rather than the dining or resorts, because I feel that's where the value is in my Disney vacation. For others, that might be the opposite. They might want the luxury of a nice resort and spend less money on the parks. Some people would rather have the dining experiences than the resorts. Unfortunately, though, unless Disney does something soon to change it, there will come a time when the price will be too high to pay (and I'm not talking necessarily in dollar amounts, I'm talking value, again) for many, if not most, people. Cutting costs and raising prices for any company is a path to financial disaster for them.
Disney's problem seams to be that the wide variety of it's shows are little more than not to hard to spot self serving promotional venues disguised as shows😑
Every time the fair comes to my town I let it pass. I never enjoyed the fair and I attribute that to being able to go to Disneyworld when I was a kid. Walt had the right idea in my opinion, the fair in my state is so trashy.
I would say Magic Kingdom and Epcot are at the top of my list. That leaves picking between Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios. Personally, I'm more of a Hollywood Studios fan, and if this was over a year ago I would say Hollywood Studios hands-down. However with Pandora open now I think Animal Kingdom is a contended. So it really boils down to your taste in experiences.
I wouldn't say it was a bad idea. But they certainly screwed it up. First, it was too expensive and occupied too much time. Fairs work because they are cheaper alternatives with wide general appeal. A much more relaxed experience that is "Disney" themed and compliments the fair while only adding a couple of bucks would probably have been a winner. Modeled after the NFL experience with a Disney theme to promote the parks, movies, games, cruises, and other properties.
So the state fair was destined to fail no matter what they do. Do it at lower cost would result in lower quality and that would tarnish the Disney brand's reputation. Do it at Disney's level and it becomes too expensive.
The Big E, State Fair of Texas & the Minnesota State Fair are the 3 most visited state fairs in the world. State Fair of Texas lasts a whole month. Do you think Disney would’ve succeeded in Texas?
🎵Our state fair is a great a state fair...🎵 6:08 Which I guess explains why 2018 ticket prices were $18 an adult, $14 for a child, and that doesn't even include the cost of parking! Sure, kids enrolled in school get a free ticket, but anyone willing to go on that specific day is just asking for trouble. Cheaper than a day at Six Flags I guess, but still. I wonder just how bad AZ's 2018 fair must be to charge that amount.
The better question would be, what are they costs inside. A small gate fee doesn't mean much if you have to spend $40 on rides and $20 on each grandstand show.
So, forgive me if I’m misunderstanding things, but this was a “state fair” with no rides, midway or local flavor with a set time on how long you were supposed to stay in tents that just had balloon shows and a gift shop? Christ, no wonder this flopped. At least they could have had a butter Clarabelle statue.
I get it. It failed so much that it materialized and it happened successfully. This is why you never believe what talking heads say about anything including Disney because they love to make it about what they think it is versus what it really is.
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"Mickey's Inflation Celebration" sounds like something you'd find on DeviantArt.
Nope, FurAffinity.
@@cesariojpn Either or, it sounds like a inflation fetish comic/story.
That’s rough haha
It really does 😂
Oh thank you, I wasn’t the first one that thought that.
It’s actually kind of amazing the sheer amount of failed ventures Disney had in the 90s.
It's kind of interesting to see what worked. Most of the things he mentioned in the video failed, but the cruise line is still going strong.
eggs..omelettes..something like that
Michael Eisner was one heck of a CEO lol
literally throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.
Tbh, every time I learn about one they seem like they would've been super fun. Disney's only mistake was not building all these regional attractions next to my house because I'd have done my best to keep them afloat singlehandedly!
Wait, let me get this straight,
Disney employee: so we have these giant balloons what do you want us to do with them?
Michael Eisner: ehh just bring 'em to state fairs
(A few months later)
Disney employee: uh sir, the show is getting to expensive to run-
Michael Eisner: just jack up the price
(Attendance drops)
Michael Eisner: well we failed
Disney employee: Not again!
Michael Eisner: Not to fear, we have many other good concepts for the Disney Decade.
*Proposes 30 story Mickey Mouse figure hotel*
*expensive not experience
Michael Eisner had the idea but failed to move the Disney's Failing State Fair to Mickey's star land @ WDW and that could have been a perfect expansion no pun intended probably most of the reasons where the bulk of the upkeep went towards the purchase of the amount of helium use for all of those balloon from small party balloons to large scale sage show could you imagen how much that would cost Disney over a span of a few years in the test run second to many kids where getting high-pitched voices from the helium where used their and lasting for a few days because the parents where all getting annoyed with it and third the cost of ticket cost where getting to expensive for the average joe family.
Me: yeah right a balloon show that's going to get my globophobia
And STILL they build Dino-rama and Paradise Pier
I mean, at least Paradise Pier goes for the same vibe as Boardwalk, which is so classy as to itself distance itself from the state fair's grimey, dirty, cheap aesthetic. Dino rama on the other hand....
So I worked at Dino rama, and let me tell you. That area was so cheap, the break room was a little, musty, muggy little room with barely working AC hollowed out of the nearby stone wall that's part of the excavation attraction (it can literally only fit about 5 people comfortably before it gets too crowded.) The rides were ill designed (aimed at very small kids...but one of them was too extreme for little kids that we had a large height restriction). Most people complained about neck pains from that ride. Both were outdoor rides so both closed during rain. Both rides are literally the only ones in the parks to NOT be built by disney and were instead just repurposed offmarket existing rides.
And the worst part? DIsney played it off as "well, the lore of the area is that it's SUPPOSED to be crap. That's the charm!" Honestly, the ONLY bit that works in that area is the chester and hester's shop as a sort of add on to the dinosaur ride. Otherwise, it sticks out like a sore thumb at Animal Kingdom and really makes it seems like America is just the worst. You have all these extremely detailed, faithful lands in Animal Kingdom, all of them embellishing the animals they feature, and show off some of the traditions, culture, and timeless architecture of their respective countries....and America gets a concrete hick town. So the Dinosaur ride and the paleontology themed stuff works if only because it has a Jurassic Park/jungle academic feel, but the rest feels off.
@@poego6045 Yeah, tell me about it. Just walking around that land made me feel weird and not even my parents who were die-hard vacation club Walt Disney World veterans thought the area was any good. I really hope the whole place gets replaced with something better.
@@poego6045 I figure the whole idea of a nostalgic carnival- or boardwalk-amusement-themed land like Paradise Pier was something Disney just had to get out of their system: there was going to be one at the never-built Long Beach DisneySea, and there was going to be one at the never-built Disney's America.
Still doesn't explain Dino-Rama...
@@poego6045 they should add on to Dinoland
Paradise Pier was my favorite land in any Disney Park! It was beautiful.
I actually remember going to this when I was little. I don't remember all of the details of it, but I do remember some moments from the show. I think there was a machine on stage that could turn any object into a balloon. At one point Aladdin is on stage and the magic lamp ends up in the machine. Suddenly there's a gigantic inflatable Aladdin's lamp there which then opened up to reveal that Genie was still inside. Obviously he was a gigantic 20-30 ft tall balloon too. The second tent where all of the activities were is mostly what I remember. The Hook's Revenge maze was really cool. It was a combination of balloon inflatables and plywood cut-outs of different Disney Villains, but mostly Captain Hook and his Pirates. I must have run through that maze about 5 or 6 times in a row.
Rob thanks for making this video. I had always remembered that this was a thing that had happened and I had memories of, but I never knew anyone else who went or knew what I was talking about. The fact that this only ran in Arizona makes me feel incredibly fortunate to have seen something so crazy and experimental. I wish I could go back and see it again, it was something special, even if it was a failure.
I went to this too. Do you remember some sort of helicopter being on the stage, or maybe like an inflatable one? I do remember the stage darkening, to reveal new scenes, though. Could have been something like that. Also, do you remember any of the inflatable suit people walking around blowing air under people's seats?
@@daniellanglois89 That is entirely possible. I don't really remember much about the show other than the part with Genie. I do have a vague memory about different costume characters coming out into the audience, Buzz and Woody were there. But other than that I don't have much memory of the rest of the show. :(
I went to this show at the Arizona State Fair when I was a child. The character in the yellow suit pictured in the upper right corner at 2:41 would walk around at some point during the Mickey Mouse stage show, and if I remember correctly he used the wand attached to his back to blow blasts of air behind people's seats, causing a whoopee-cushion sort of effect. I also remember the Balloon-Topia Area, it amazed me and seemed very impressive as a kid. I had never seen anything like it before. I remember running through the inflatable obstacle course. It was huge! There was a bunch of stuff to do in there. I wish I could remember it all better! Rob, I would like to thank you for making and uploading this great video. You brought back some good memories for me. I've actually been thinking about this specific event for years, and could never remember exactly what it was or what it was called. I wonder if anyone has a Home Video of the Mickey Mouse Stage Show, I would love to see it.
If “CEO Michael Eisner” isn’t said, is it really a Disney Video
WHAT IS THAT CRAZY COASTER AT 5:26 AND WHERE CAN I RIDE ONE?
Brian Kraus I AGREE! We need answers!!!!!!!
That looked awesome.
So unfortunately I don't know the name of the ride itself, but it's from the original Luna Park at Coney Island around the late 1910's.
@@MidwaytoMainStreetFound it guys! It's official name was "The Scenic Spiral Wheel" but collectively known as "The Top" Video about it here: ua-cam.com/video/XtWHd6f9wsM/v-deo.html
It was designed by a trunken engineer and is called: "Bet people are paying money for this sh*t".
Some of this experience led them to decisions on how to handle Disney Quest.
Examples?
You are getting so good at doing these videos. The editing is awesome and I love the unique rob plays style lol keep on making awesome content! It’s awesome to see how much your channel has grown over the last 4 years! I remember when I first started watching back in the sims 4 Chet chesterfield and OG Minecraft Disney days. Looking forward to the future of your channel!
I was in this show. I remember a bunch of the cast running through the Balloonatopia area between shows. So much fun. Some really wonderful people worked on this.
Yeah I remember it at the fair, and no we didn't pony up for it. A lot of money for a family of four at the time.
I worked for the Disney fair in Puyallup Washington. Still have my shirt, name badge and flyers from the fair. Best time of my life. Thanks for the video. Brought back a lot of memories.
One of the best things about companies that have as much money as Disney is that they can try and fail again and again and not worry about going out of business.
What kind of ride is that at 5:30??! A roller coaster on a spinning mountain? Oh my gosh, it's magnificent.
Great video as always can’t believe you 2k away from 100k been here since like 10k can’t wait till your hitting 1m subs you definitely deserve it!!!
Disney Quest was nothing more than Eisners attempt to compete with his revival Katzenberg with DreamQuest both of Witch failed in different ways. They never would of done indoor entertainment if DreamWorks never did so
Phineas 626 hey I should check your grammar
Alex Brooke you mean “YOU should check your grammar”. Hard to take you seriously when you yourself messed up. 😄
3rd! I can't even imagine Disney having a state fair. They both seem like 2 very different thing (Disney and state fairs) I can't picture them together.
I remembered going to DisneyFest when I was a kid. I couldn’t remember what the whole event I was at until I saw this video. I still have old photos of myself there.
That was a great video! I really appreciate you injecting humor whenever possible. Really pluses up the whole package!
In 1987 & 1988, Disneyland had State Fair Days during the Summer. Great Memories for me like Pigmania, easy to win prizes at Carnival Games, and a State Fair Parade. It also introduced and 30 years of "Billy Hill and the Hillbillies ".
Exactly i wondered why he did not mention it in the video..they also had a human "cannon ball" (Captain Zoom)
Some photos can be found here:
mickeymousepark.com/disneyland-parade.aspx?Page=11&Ident=632
6:35 If anyone's wondering what that PSI indicator in the top left was, that was because the video was captured during one of the times Singapore had to put up with a haze originating from illegal deforestation operations in Indonesia. These days, two indicators are used, one of them being PM2.5.
This is SUCH an underrated channel. I am in love with Disney and your content is so fascinating!!
Thanks for the kind words Desiree! Glad you're enjoying the videos!
Another compelling video. This channel is a must for any Disney fan
Interesting! Even failed experiments teach useful lessons, and I do admire Disney for looking into ways to spread the magic to markets too small or too thinly populated to support a park or resort full time.
Disney and state fairs; two things that don’t go together
Attaching itself to an already existing fair was asking for trouble, as it's a comparison in prices. Stand alone it would have faired much better, excuse the pun :D
So, to state clearly, the fare for the fair wasn't fair and it didn't fare well.
The first show was the Washingtion State Fair. It opened in September. We went into rehearsals in August
love the new logo, your videos help me wax nostalgic as I await my next Disney World visit
DisneyFest was basically Disney's way to introduce the brand to the Asian Market. It began in Singapore, then it moved to Taiwan, according to what I've seen in Instagram. It was so popular compared to the original Disney Fair
I google translated several Disneyland rides and the result is hillarious.
The haunted mansion becomes "the castle"
Pirates of the Caribbean becomes "Caribbean islands are pigeons"
Autopia becomes "utopian"
Peter Pan's flight becomes "Peter Pan"
And Great moments with Mr. Lincoln becomes "Mr Lincoln is a good time"
Really interesting video rob. I love you find these obscure Disney projects ive never heard about
Thanks!
Awesome video once again Rob. Not awesome for Disney but hey, win some, lose some right?
anyone else's fight or flight reaction engage when they hear the word inflation??? bc mine sure does !
Disneyland actually had an off-peak season State Fair promotion in the late 1980's
You always have these interesting parts of Disney history that I never knew about before!
I worked on this. Total Nightmare! Did you know they also tried to convert an oil tanker into a touring them park?
Based on my one time attendance at the Delaware State Fair, at least some state fairs ARE bad. The livestock, flowers, and vegetables are fine, but then there's the freak show, like “Angel the Snake Girl,” advertised as having the "head of a beautiful woman and the body of an ugly 200-pound snake" and at least two "worlds smallest little persons." I'm not sure that Disney would be up for that.
Great video as always Rob!!
Toy Story Land at Hollywood Studios reminds me a lot of a carnival midway.
I remember being told, very seriously, by a Disney exec at that time that they considered your doctor and dentist as competition, because after all, you spent time and money at your doctor and dentist, and you could have been giving that money to the Walt Disney Company. So they were seriously looking at marketing campaigns to get you to go to Disneyland rather than your doctor. No Joke. (I thought it was, but they were dead serious. They felt they were entitled to that money of yours.)
I think I remember this.. I grew up in Washington state and went to the fair every year.
I love how Eisner era Disney could afford to throw 30 million at something like this, but then claimed it wasn't in the budget when it came to fixing the fireflies in Pirates of the Caribbean when they stopped working.
I'm loving the new logo/intro! Also, oly 2k more until 100k subs!!! Got any plans for that special milestone?
I vaguely remember Mickey's Inflation Celebration.
I went to this at the WW State Fair. I don't remember a lot about it and I don't remember a second tent.
I like the clip you used from the Movie State Fair lol
This causes me to LAUGH!!! Management trying to re-invent the wheel. Disneyland was originally Disneylandia (a traveling rail show that would stop in major cities with miniature 3-D animated figures) the precursor to Audio Animatronics. American vignettes were to entertain guests that plunked coins into the slots to bring the shows to life. It was decided that between the amount of coins + the use of a cities spurs or sidings to present the show = $$$ to the city. Not enough coins to sustain a profit. That's why a permanent location was chosen to keep down cost. Hence Disneyland in glorious Anaheim, CA. LOL
Rob, where do you get this information? I worked for WDW Marketing as a Senior Media Buyer from 1990 to 2000 and never heard anything about this. Where was this started? West Coast? Good video again...
Primarily news outlets. I've recently been appending a source list to the end of my descriptions. Came across this specific topic in an old article I came across while researching a previous topic.
But it is awesome that a company is so successful that they can get an idea, run with it, and if it doesn't work.....no big deal, no blood-no foul. Taking those opportunities is what leads to finding great ideas that work.
This seems reminiscent of a collossal failure of a Marvel-themed traveling show that attempted to do something similar in 2016...luckily, I lived in the second stop city, San Diego and got to experience it, and it was really fun, but, again, expensive and not-well attended. Thus, we were also the LAST stop of what was supposed to be 12 cities
Wait, Washington State Fair? As in the Puyallup Fair back then? I went there every year since I was a kid until I moved to Nevada in 2006. I likely would've been there when this happened, how come I don't remember this?
I worked the Disney Fair show at the Puyallup fairgrounds in 1996 and I don't think it was marketed all that well. It was situated behind the fair in a parking lot, so unless you knew it was there you wouldn't have seen it. I don't remember it ever being more than half full if that much, but I was only in the inflatable tent so I can't vouch for the rest.
When Walt opened Disneyland, he a circus attraction just outside the park(separate admission required) but it failed also.
I feel like this is, unfortunately, the way the Disney Store is going as well. There are only two left in my state when there used to be dozens in the 1990s.
Oh same. I used to see them all over the place. I haven’t seen one in ages.
The traveling Disney on Ice and stage shows may have benefited from this failure. Same general premise of “Disney comes to you” but they are the only attraction.
I hate state fairs. I spent so much money I was like, I might as well go to Disney World! I have an annual pass and it’s more fun and less gross
ALL HAIL ROB
5:27 holy cats what is that random ride in your stock footage? Never saw anything like that...
I'm not sure what the name of the ride is, but it's from the original Luna Park at Coney Island around the late 1910's.
@@MidwaytoMainStreet I'd love to have experienced the elaborate dark ride that gave that park its name--a pre-Disney "Trip to the Moon" on a winged airship, with actors in weird costumes playing Lunarians.
I think Disney World is going to be headed in the same direction with their newly implemented (or, soon to be implemented) "photographer in a box"- they're going to run into people who simply don't want to pay that much money for automatic photos- neither on rides nor meeting characters. Given all the backlash they received the day it was announced, many people aren't going to want to pay the price for the FEW manually-shot, high-quality, "customized" (as opposed to generic, literal point and shoot) photos they will get in addition to the dozens of automatic photos. I can see people opting to not use their memory maker during these particular character meet n greets, and instead choosing to use their own cameras to take pictures or videos. People don't WANT to pay big bucks for something if the value just isn't there. I'm not saying it wouldn't have quality, but.... quality vs value.... most people go for value. And there is more quality in manually-taken photos than there is in automatic photos, thus lowering the value. Disney is headed definitely also in the same direction with everyone getting tired of price hikes. Of course the new people are going to pay because they don't know any better, but... long-time guests and fans sure do know and may stop coming or will look for other ways to make their money worth it that Disney isn't prepared for.
@@brianford8716 Don't know how this turned into a minimum wage issue, but as it turns out, Disney doesn't need to jack up prices to pay people fairly. Minimum wage has not kept up with inflation, and Disney used to make it work. There are certainly other ways they can cut costs to make ends meet - not that they don't have the profits already to support this. This is an unnecessary money-grab and regardless of minimum wage, the OP was about the experience being lessened.
In the past, high operating cost has not deterred Disney if the experience is quality.
@@brianford8716 I doubt it..... they are supposed to be stationary cameras in a fixed box in a fixed location that will take 5 to 7 photos at set intervals throughout the course of the interaction. And without regard to what is in front of it or what is going on. Every other trial they have had with these cameras has come with HIGHLY NEGATIVE feedback from guests and tech/specs standpoint, but the fact they're going forward with it despite the negative push says yes, they are money pinching and no, they don't care about their employees. It sucks for all these people who voted for the raise and to get their hopes up like "yes! I'm going to get a raise!!" only to be told, "sorry, we're cutting your job!" What a slap in the face...... I'd be PISSED if that was me.
I kinda agree with what you say but I'm still paying to go to their parks. Starting next year til their 50th on 2021 there will be a lot of new stuff. I'm even saving up to stay at that new Star Wars hotel even though it's not being built yet. Don't generalized people based on what you feel. People are still paying and the parks are still crowded even with price increases which personally doesn't bother me.
@@gissneric Oh of course people are still going to pay. I will still pay to go to do Disney things, too. But people aren't going to want to spend money on things they don't think are valuable. For example, the camera boxes. If people don't think there's value in that, they won't spend money on it. If people don't think there is value in spending money for a certain dining experience, they won't spend money on it. If people don't think there's value in a certain hotel experience, they won't spend money on it. If the value of things keeps going down and the price keeps going up (or staying the same as when there WAS value), there will be that threshold that eventually everyone, myself included, will meet. I don't foresee that coming for a long time, personally- Disney does tend to redeem themselves in other ways to make me want to spend money, but I have seriously considered exactly where I want to spend my money. For me, I'd rather spend a chunk of my money on the parks, rather than the dining or resorts, because I feel that's where the value is in my Disney vacation. For others, that might be the opposite. They might want the luxury of a nice resort and spend less money on the parks. Some people would rather have the dining experiences than the resorts. Unfortunately, though, unless Disney does something soon to change it, there will come a time when the price will be too high to pay (and I'm not talking necessarily in dollar amounts, I'm talking value, again) for many, if not most, people. Cutting costs and raising prices for any company is a path to financial disaster for them.
I would've loved this growing up!
Disney's problem seams to be that the wide variety of it's shows are little more than not to hard to spot self serving promotional venues disguised as shows😑
Didn't Disneyland (or was it World?) have a fair in it for a very short amount of time near opening?
I went to the one in Washington. It was a blast
This Tour was a blast, I was six day Donald Duck. My swing did Donald Duck on my day off.
Every time the fair comes to my town I let it pass. I never enjoyed the fair and I attribute that to being able to go to Disneyworld when I was a kid. Walt had the right idea in my opinion, the fair in my state is so trashy.
Yeah all of those carnies smell like cabbage.
Hey Rob!!
They should have done some sort of balloon race with all the balloons instead.
Hey Rob, I'm going to Walt Disney world for the first time in may and I will be going to three out of the four parks. Which ones do you reccomend?
I would say Magic Kingdom and Epcot are at the top of my list. That leaves picking between Animal Kingdom and Hollywood Studios. Personally, I'm more of a Hollywood Studios fan, and if this was over a year ago I would say Hollywood Studios hands-down. However with Pandora open now I think Animal Kingdom is a contended. So it really boils down to your taste in experiences.
@@MidwaytoMainStreet Ok thank you!!
what is the education video where the show the computers from?
I wouldn't say it was a bad idea. But they certainly screwed it up. First, it was too expensive and occupied too much time. Fairs work because they are cheaper alternatives with wide general appeal. A much more relaxed experience that is "Disney" themed and compliments the fair while only adding a couple of bucks would probably have been a winner. Modeled after the NFL experience with a Disney theme to promote the parks, movies, games, cruises, and other properties.
So the state fair was destined to fail no matter what they do. Do it at lower cost would result in lower quality and that would tarnish the Disney brand's reputation. Do it at Disney's level and it becomes too expensive.
What about when the State Fair came to Disneyland in 1988?
Had a shit night, but your vid put a smile on my face. Thanks Rob, love your vids
I saw the show when I was a kid in Arizona. Only really remember tiny bits so it wasn't really memorable :/
5:43
Wish I was as creative as Disney.
Interestingly, most of the Disneyland concept master plans included a state fair section.
I wouldn’t mind paying that to attend something Ran by Disney in my area
So weird. Whoever designed this show must have had a balloon fetish. 🎈
We're all having fun in Balloonland.
Congrats on almost reaching 100k!
So basically Disney went down the State Fair route so they can make more money and show off giant balloons of their characters
You just know this caused some people to develop inflation or balloon fetishes
The Big E, State Fair of Texas & the Minnesota State Fair are the 3 most visited state fairs in the world. State Fair of Texas lasts a whole month. Do you think Disney would’ve succeeded in Texas?
It would have to bigger, because everything is bigger in Texas.
"Real Fun" -> I raised an eyebrow.
Did they get to go to the Florida state fair since it’s a huge fair and in Florida lol?
Why doesn't Disney just open a new park in the midwest???
🎵Our state fair is a great a state fair...🎵
6:08 Which I guess explains why 2018 ticket prices were $18 an adult, $14 for a child, and that doesn't even include the cost of parking! Sure, kids enrolled in school get a free ticket, but anyone willing to go on that specific day is just asking for trouble. Cheaper than a day at Six Flags I guess, but still. I wonder just how bad AZ's 2018 fair must be to charge that amount.
The better question would be, what are they costs inside. A small gate fee doesn't mean much if you have to spend $40 on rides and $20 on each grandstand show.
I actually would have loved to see that show.
Inflation substation... thats... oof..
It looks like an indoor pumpkin patch
Does somebody have a video about disney and macys balloons history?
Not surprised that this was Eisner's idea though
So, forgive me if I’m misunderstanding things, but this was a “state fair” with no rides, midway or local flavor with a set time on how long you were supposed to stay in tents that just had balloon shows and a gift shop? Christ, no wonder this flopped. At least they could have had a butter Clarabelle statue.
It was attached to an existing fair, which presumably had those other things already.
Do disney on ice
I love going to state fairs (TX)
When now they can (I think)
I get it. It failed so much that it materialized and it happened successfully.
This is why you never believe what talking heads say about anything including Disney because they love to make it about what they think it is versus what it really is.
The Great Inflation Celebration is the name of someone's Discord server for inflation fetishists.
Tehe it started in my state
it sounds kinda fun