Thanks for taking the time check out our 30K Chase and make a great quality video as always. The 30K will fit on the 20S clamp, Chase is correct. Chase did a great job answering a lot. Some points in the comments: The 30K does have a more directional mic, however, so some may wish to use the new 30K clamp. The speakers are the same as the 20S. -The 30K allows you to connect 4 Bluetooth riders and a virtually unlimited numer of riders in the mesh intercom. The 30K can also bring Bluetooth users into the mesh. Mesh intercom will support audio multitasking. You can pair with 2 Bluetooth devices as well, such as a GPS and Phone. Much better voice commands, connect with one button in mesh, newer mic, stability, Bluetooth antenna, and Mesh antenna. Chase did a good job summarizing! Thanks, Chase -Alyssa
Sena did not revolutionize group chat with their meshwork. Scala Rider and it's packtalk has been doing it for well over a year. Scala has HAD dynamic mesh communication. Sena just Finally got on board. Not a bad product though!
Have been using this for the past few months. For a single use (i.e. listen to music, nav, etc) its similar to 20s. In addition, I use sena for my motovlogging video (using the gopro adapter as well), same case happened. The sound is muter than 20s, i have to crank up the volume in my editing software. And, 30k tries harder to remove the unwanted noise, including the exhaust sound as well :( In the end, i keep switching back to 20s and 10s for my wife. Maybe if all of my 15 friends have 30k, I’ll switch back to 30k.
TrigunVS I installed a pair of iASUS Xsound 3 speakers. They have a mini 3.5 mm jack but I soldered and wrapped them into the Sena harness to keep it cleaner.
lol, I know you are just kidding, but really, from experience, swearing in videos is not what gets them demonetised. I though it would a while ago but I still swear (can't help that at times:) and mine rarely get demonetised, when they do it's temporary. It's usually either the tags or description that cause issues, possibly the thumbnail too.
yo chase,the cinematic shots are really amazing man!! and the video you make now is way better than before....it amazing.now boo is part of outrocrew haha..... amazing stuff I really enjoy watching your videos man.......
I have the Sena 10c and have found that the speakers are crap. The audio quality from my Bluetooth iPod is woeful. Plus at 100 kph you can barely hear your music! Other than that. The unit works well with your phone and the video quality is pretty good!
with the 20s (and 30K) my wife says that she absolutely cannot tell I'm on the bike, even at interstate speed. I actually don't have the music turned all the way up now, compared to the 10s, where I had to crank the living crap out of it
What this review doesn't do, it doesn't test the specifications of the unit. No distance test, no multiple headsets! We got taken by Sena and the 20s, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to connect 3 other headsets to the 20s because of the "crackling" and "popcorn" sounds, the claimed distance on a wide open road lies too. Most of the people I know won't upgrade to the 30K because the 20s was never fixed, we don't have "group" intercom because all the noise Sena's make would drive us crazy. So grab your 30K and your buddy, a couple of 20's's link them then drive around, get out in the open with the two 30k's and give us an actual usable range. If you're going to review them, test them against their claims, we don't get free units, we have to pay for them!
!!!ATTENTION!!! Anyone looking to buy a Sena right now the 30K is currently $200 on Amazon (at the time of posting this in the USA) you can upgrade the firmware to Mesh 2.0, and Sena will be releasing the HD Speakers soon for $40. So for a total of $240 you can have the exact same quality as the Sena 50S. Mesh 2.0 and HD Speakers are all that has been upgraded on the Sena 50S.
My sena 10s has a headphone port. And I haven't played around a lot but as far as I know you can't output straight to a gopro because you can't hear your own voice unless you're connected with someone else
My buddy and I have the old sena10 and it never disconnects and works perfectly fine. We never have issues. The only thing is highway speeds it’s hard to hear each other. Do these newer models help with sound clarity? Better speakers Ect.
Even with one person using the 20s and 30k which I did. It's still pairs much faster with just one 30k syncing with a 20S in pairing mode vs two 20S/ 10S ect. Way way faster just I corperating just one 30k in the mix.
I hope they give you better support for your 30K than they did with my 20S. They won't even sell you replacement batteries! And everyone knows that batteries don't last more than a couple years! GOOD LUCK with Sena's cr@p
Now if you'd just compare the 30K to Cardo Scala Rider PackTalk. Both use a "Mesh" network. Would like to get your opinion of each, without the price coming into play.
Chase, did you notice a big difference in range/quality with the antenna up vs down? Great news about working with the 20S connector, I was waiting for confirmation on this from my local shop.
If you have a 30K, you can ONLY use Bluetooth to your phone if connected to other 30K's. If you connecting to other Senas that are 20 or 10 then it WILL NOT let you continue to listen to music off your phone. For that fact alone, Im passing. Either buying the 20S or Scala Rider
I want to like this...They still have not fixed audio multiplexing on bluetooth com (where the 20s does it), as far as I have read, and still not water proof, only resistant.
30K Might be the best some time in the future. Present firmware 1.0.2 is not up to speed yet. Audio multitasking does not work during bluetooth intercom, only mesh mode. Mesh private mode does not work well enough to be usable- muffled audio, not even line of sight range. Power issue- yesterday mine ran out of battery in 2-1/2 hours after a full charge just listening to music- no mesh or bt intercom in use.
Question: I only want to use the Bluetooth system for music. I could care less about rider to rider comms. Do they have Bluetooth systems like this for just music?
Is the audio quality better then the last iteration? Every now and then I encounter snowy audio when connected to the GP10 backpack. Have they made any improvements to that? How does the new app holds up? Excitement aside, I have so many questions.
Hey man. I have the 30K on mine and my wife's helmets. We've been riding with them for a few months. The Bluetooth connection seems a little more solid but the quality is not any better than the 20S. The mesh connection...I'm not sure if Chase and Bo were using Bluetooth or Mesh but I was pretty disappointed with our Mesh. It is easy to connect and stay connected, no doubt but the quality reminded me of a CB radio even in close proximity. I haven't tried it since but will again. So far, if I had known then what I do now, I'd have stuck with the 20S but if you ride in large groups, the connection process is much, much better.
ok so you cannot get the 30K mic to directly connect to a gopro. it will however still work with the GP10. the really cool thing is that the GP10 will record everyone connected in the mesh. same audio quality as before because the GP10 is based on the same internals as the 10 series sena units (SMH10, 10C, Prism.)
I found my mesh to be totally unusable. The sound and connection is so bad, you can't understand each other. Had to switch to Bluetooth. Trying to sort it out before I send them back. Should have got the packtalk.
RidingWithDemic sena and gopro probably paid them to not tell, I mean they aren't coming to agreements for shit so I'll just try and let you guys know I'm gonna buy the 30k anyway
Chase it looks like the price is less than $100 difference so if I'm looking to get a Sena for the first time, and trying to get my fiancee into riding with me even getting her a bike one day, would you say I should just into the Sena 30k dual kit like the one you showed in the intro clip of this video?
Search "Scala Rider Packtalk" best bluetooth for motorcycles. Better than Sena and works better with a chain connection. Also can connect to other bluetooth devices that ain't the same brand. Auto 're connects if lose connection and if one person disconnects no one else will.
Cardo did the mesh technology already in their PackTalk unit earlier this year/late last. Wonder how well Sena's will work from a comparative standpoint.
10U or 30K for my Shoei GT-Air? Like the stealth of the 10U, but if it sucks i guess i need the big bulky 30k... hope some one can shed some light on this :)!
i was too wondering about some other bluetooth device that might be a little cheaper in the eu countries, in my country a Sena s20 cost around 600 USD per unit...
Check out some of the affordable Chinese offerings on aliexpress. Lexin B4FM two channel or Fodsport T9s one channel (same design and factory). I have the Cardo Packtalk but my mate won't shell out the cash, so I got him a Fodsport V6 Interphone second hand and it works fine for our needs over about 500mtrs.
You know I keep looking at these Sena Comm units and others but I keep confusing myself on whether or not they need a phone to talk to each other or...if they're like walkie-talkies where they just connect to each other. So when I go to other countries (places outside the U.S.) to visit family I can just bring the units and keep my phone turned off so I don't use any data/minutes internationally.
2DMNSERIOUS if you don’t have it. Don’t do it. I’ve had the 20s and 30K. Both are below average. I’m switching to cardo after doing some research. Nothing but rave reviews all over the place. Not to mention they’ve partnered with JBL. just ordered mine and can’t wait to try it out.
I heard you can "multi task" on the 30k like listen to media audio or gps while in the mesh, is this true? Do you know if the latest software update fixed this issue.
Revzilla has a video for this and I clicked on it.... saw Chase did one as well, went to his immediately... didn't even watch Anthony... so I guess I watched, decided, and rode my ass off to ChaseOnTwoWheels instead! And does Beau have a channel?
Does anyone know how they record the communication between them? I want to motovlog with a friend and be able to record sound of myself and of the other riders.
The 10S is waterproof, the 20S, Evo and 30k are only "resistant" - not that any of them would survive a real dive into the ocean or anything. If you're worried, put a small plastic baggie over it in the rain, held on with a single rubber band. Won't affect the functionality, rainproof, boom.
I liked this format of videos. Its refreshing not having a reviewer not completely talking to himself.
Thanks for taking the time check out our 30K Chase and make a great quality video as always. The 30K will fit on the 20S clamp, Chase is correct. Chase did a great job answering a lot. Some points in the comments: The 30K does have a more directional mic, however, so some may wish to use the new 30K clamp. The speakers are the same as the 20S. -The 30K allows you to connect 4 Bluetooth riders and a virtually unlimited numer of riders in the mesh intercom. The 30K can also bring Bluetooth users into the mesh. Mesh intercom will support audio multitasking. You can pair with 2 Bluetooth devices as well, such as a GPS and Phone. Much better voice commands, connect with one button in mesh, newer mic, stability, Bluetooth antenna, and Mesh antenna. Chase did a good job summarizing! Thanks, Chase -Alyssa
Sena will this work with full face bicycle helmets ?
Hi Thanos....Yes, this can work in the full face helmets. The mount comes with an adhesive mount or clamp to attach easily if needed. -Alyssa
Any word on if you can connect directly to GoPro Hero 5/6 with the aux in/mic? (since GoPro dropped the ball with wireless)
CyberSpy I wanted to know this also.
how do i get the sena audio on my gopro like how i can hear chase and bo on chases video,how does the gopro get the sena audio is my question
Funny how revzilla posted a review 40 minutes after you, way to beat them to the chase, Chase
I just seen that too.
Heck ya! I like having bo around for first rides and test videos!
Your friends mic sound is absolutely on point.
Sena did not revolutionize group chat with their meshwork. Scala Rider and it's packtalk has been doing it for well over a year. Scala has HAD dynamic mesh communication. Sena just Finally got on board. Not a bad product though!
Well over two years.
Have been using this for the past few months. For a single use (i.e. listen to music, nav, etc) its similar to 20s.
In addition, I use sena for my motovlogging video (using the gopro adapter as well), same case happened. The sound is muter than 20s, i have to crank up the volume in my editing software. And, 30k tries harder to remove the unwanted noise, including the exhaust sound as well :(
In the end, i keep switching back to 20s and 10s for my wife. Maybe if all of my 15 friends have 30k, I’ll switch back to 30k.
I have the 20S, and haven't had any problems with it, connections or anything. I did upgrade the speakers, which made a huge difference.
Rick Graziano which speakers did you upgrade to?
TrigunVS I installed a pair of iASUS Xsound 3 speakers. They have a mini 3.5 mm jack but I soldered and wrapped them into the Sena harness to keep it cleaner.
SENA is a very smart company , there marketing is excellent, just replacing a part is much better than buying new unit.
"Butt guard for your car!" *DEMONETIZED *
lol, I know you are just kidding, but really, from experience, swearing in videos is not what gets them demonetised. I though it would a while ago but I still swear (can't help that at times:) and mine rarely get demonetised, when they do it's temporary. It's usually either the tags or description that cause issues, possibly the thumbnail too.
yo chase,the cinematic shots are really amazing man!! and the video you make now is way better than before....it amazing.now boo is part of outrocrew haha..... amazing stuff I really enjoy watching your videos man.......
Outro crew OG right here. Been Outro Crew since before there was an Outro Crew. I’m an Outro Crew Hipster!
Merry Christmas and a Happy New motoYear
How’s it the best !! Scala packtalk is better no?? Waterproof too this is not correct me if I am wrong thanks
dude these shots are so awesome, best looking ad ever :D
I’d be curious what the 30k would sound like if you were to get on I-75 and run your bike up to 75 mph.
I have the Sena 10c and have found that the speakers are crap. The audio quality from my Bluetooth iPod is woeful. Plus at 100 kph you can barely hear your music! Other than that. The unit works well with your phone and the video quality is pretty good!
with the 20s (and 30K) my wife says that she absolutely cannot tell I'm on the bike, even at interstate speed. I actually don't have the music turned all the way up now, compared to the 10s, where I had to crank the living crap out of it
Damn dude @ 9:05 your buddy almost gave that car a love tap.
What this review doesn't do, it doesn't test the specifications of the unit. No distance test, no multiple headsets! We got taken by Sena and the 20s, it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to connect 3 other headsets to the 20s because of the "crackling" and "popcorn" sounds, the claimed distance on a wide open road lies too. Most of the people I know won't upgrade to the 30K because the 20s was never fixed, we don't have "group" intercom because all the noise Sena's make would drive us crazy. So grab your 30K and your buddy, a couple of 20's's link them then drive around, get out in the open with the two 30k's and give us an actual usable range. If you're going to review them, test them against their claims, we don't get free units, we have to pay for them!
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So they are now doing what Scala has been doing for years?
And claiming it all as brand new and ground braking technology, hyperbole much.
Cardo has mesh, so technically they revolutionized Bluetooth communicators for large groups.
So they did, over two years ago as well. Funny how Sena and their disciples conveniently forget that fact when they use the words Best and First.
Fan boi's
Chase, why no holiday special? Riding season is over where i live, but who wouldn't want a holiday extravaganza?!?!
!!!ATTENTION!!!
Anyone looking to buy a Sena right now the 30K is currently $200 on Amazon (at the time of posting this in the USA) you can upgrade the firmware to Mesh 2.0, and Sena will be releasing the HD Speakers soon for $40. So for a total of $240 you can have the exact same quality as the Sena 50S. Mesh 2.0 and HD Speakers are all that has been upgraded on the Sena 50S.
Lol this vid was made literally 1 hour after RevZilla made their video on their product. Good timing.
What gloves are these? You have Icon Konflict Gloves listed in your desc...nope. So what are these heated gloves?
www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/hotwired-heated-gloves
My sena 10s has a headphone port. And I haven't played around a lot but as far as I know you can't output straight to a gopro because you can't hear your own voice unless you're connected with someone else
My buddy and I have the old sena10 and it never disconnects and works perfectly fine. We never have issues. The only thing is highway speeds it’s hard to hear each other. Do these newer models help with sound clarity? Better speakers Ect.
Scala Packtalk did it first with the "mesh" network...
Even with one person using the 20s and 30k which I did. It's still pairs much faster with just one 30k syncing with a 20S in pairing mode vs two 20S/ 10S ect. Way way faster just I corperating just one 30k in the mix.
i'm really interested to see if there can be a direct audio input into the gopro from the 30k. It would make my life a little easier in some aspects.
Great video chase! But now for the real question: what helmet has your mate??? I love how it looks!
Simplicity is something I'm worried about with the GoPro cams to link up. It be awesome if the audio and mic syncing up via Bluetooth.
I hope they give you better support for your 30K than they did with my 20S. They won't even sell you replacement batteries! And everyone knows that batteries don't last more than a couple years! GOOD LUCK with Sena's cr@p
Great video. Have answered lots of questions, thx.
Now if you'd just compare the 30K to Cardo Scala Rider PackTalk. Both use a "Mesh" network. Would like to get your opinion of each, without the price coming into play.
It's been done Check out the series by Blake A ua-cam.com/video/R4ahoMtXRNA/v-deo.html
Great video guys!
Love your vids keep up the good work
I like these kind of videos, I am very interested in hearing how well it works with your Go Pro.
you guys rock, fun review, thx
Beautiful video my dude. Damn!
Did you try it with a GoPro yet and if so, how did it work???
Chase, did you notice a big difference in range/quality with the antenna up vs down? Great news about working with the 20S connector, I was waiting for confirmation on this from my local shop.
Chase, you should find out if the Sena mesh network would work with the Cardo PackTalk mesh network.
It doesn't.
If you have a 30K, you can ONLY use Bluetooth to your phone if connected to other 30K's. If you connecting to other Senas that are 20 or 10 then it WILL NOT let you continue to listen to music off your phone. For that fact alone, Im passing. Either buying the 20S or Scala Rider
I want to like this...They still have not fixed audio multiplexing on bluetooth com (where the 20s does it), as far as I have read, and still not water proof, only resistant.
Question for Beau. What helmet is that you’re wearing in this video?
30K Might be the best some time in the future. Present firmware 1.0.2 is not up to speed yet. Audio multitasking does not work during bluetooth intercom, only mesh mode. Mesh private mode does not work well enough to be usable- muffled audio, not even line of sight range. Power issue- yesterday mine ran out of battery in 2-1/2 hours after a full charge just listening to music- no mesh or bt intercom in use.
Question: I only want to use the Bluetooth system for music. I could care less about rider to rider comms. Do they have Bluetooth systems like this for just music?
www.plugfones.com/product/liberate2/
Need the mesh tech.. There is always "That Guy" in out group that won't lane share or won't turn right on red and gets left behind.
Is the audio quality better then the last iteration? Every now and then I encounter snowy audio when connected to the GP10 backpack. Have they made any improvements to that? How does the new app holds up? Excitement aside, I have so many questions.
Hey man. I have the 30K on mine and my wife's helmets. We've been riding with them for a few months. The Bluetooth connection seems a little more solid but the quality is not any better than the 20S. The mesh connection...I'm not sure if Chase and Bo were using Bluetooth or Mesh but I was pretty disappointed with our Mesh. It is easy to connect and stay connected, no doubt but the quality reminded me of a CB radio even in close proximity. I haven't tried it since but will again. So far, if I had known then what I do now, I'd have stuck with the 20S but if you ride in large groups, the connection process is much, much better.
The audio unit to unit is. I plan on testing the audio through the prism, which is a close approximation to the gp backpack.
Me too brotha. I'm really interested in that mic out. I hadn't noticed it on my 30k, now I have to run home and swap it the bases
ok so you cannot get the 30K mic to directly connect to a gopro. it will however still work with the GP10. the really cool thing is that the GP10 will record everyone connected in the mesh. same audio quality as before because the GP10 is based on the same internals as the 10 series sena units (SMH10, 10C, Prism.)
I found my mesh to be totally unusable. The sound and connection is so bad, you can't understand each other. Had to switch to Bluetooth. Trying to sort it out before I send them back. Should have got the packtalk.
Let us know if that audio port/GoPro trick worked. If so, it might be worth buying the GoPro mic adapter.
RidingWithDemic sena and gopro probably paid them to not tell, I mean they aren't coming to agreements for shit so I'll just try and let you guys know I'm gonna buy the 30k anyway
Chase it looks like the price is less than $100 difference so if I'm looking to get a Sena for the first time, and trying to get my fiancee into riding with me even getting her a bike one day, would you say I should just into the Sena 30k dual kit like the one you showed in the intro clip of this video?
Search "Scala Rider Packtalk" best bluetooth for motorcycles.
Better than Sena and works better with a chain connection. Also can connect to other bluetooth devices that ain't the same brand. Auto 're connects if lose connection and if one person disconnects no one else will.
great vid chase.
Chase I would enjoy riding around Atlanta testing or just hangi by out. I live in Powder Springs. Multistrata 20s
Think you need to look more into the 30k necessary to all
I thought you could perhaps have tested the ranges (>1k apart) in town and on open roads....
Did you time this release with RevZilla? They just dropped their review of this too.
Cardo did the mesh technology already in their PackTalk unit earlier this year/late last. Wonder how well Sena's will work from a comparative standpoint.
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What bike is his friend on? Looks good
Have you tried any of the Cardo units? I have the Packtalk Slim. I love it. It’s tiny.
Could I connect my iPod with all my music to listen to music and my iPhone for phone calls
The link for the gloves in the video description aren't the ones you are wearing....help!!! Please
What mic is Bo using? Or why is his audio quality clearer than yours Chase?
Did I miss something - or why didn't you test the voice commands ???
What price and where available.
How do you change the language on this thing and does it have Spanish?
10U or 30K for my Shoei GT-Air?
Like the stealth of the 10U, but if it sucks i guess i need the big bulky 30k...
hope some one can shed some light on this :)!
great video!
i was too wondering about some other bluetooth device that might be a little cheaper in the eu countries, in my country a Sena s20 cost around 600 USD per unit...
Check out some of the affordable Chinese offerings on aliexpress. Lexin B4FM two channel or Fodsport T9s one channel (same design and factory). I have the Cardo Packtalk but my mate won't shell out the cash, so I got him a Fodsport V6 Interphone second hand and it works fine for our needs over about 500mtrs.
What was the verdict on the direct cable to an audio recorder/GoPro mic adapter?
You know I keep looking at these Sena Comm units and others but I keep confusing myself on whether or not they need a phone to talk to each other or...if they're like walkie-talkies where they just connect to each other. So when I go to other countries (places outside the U.S.) to visit family I can just bring the units and keep my phone turned off so I don't use any data/minutes internationally.
SVOddball - they don't need a phone to talk to each other.
How is the batter life now? Because the sena 20s battery life is shit now
Dual vlog w/ beau.
Albert huang this guy gets it 👊🏻
TheMiniMose 👊
can you have some riders blue toothed and us the mesh for other riders at the same time?
Did they fix the FM radio? In the 20S it is really poor.
"it comes with everything you need for this thing" .. well i hope it does :D
But is it water tight?
Please do make that second video, be ace to see if you can plug the audio from the 30k into the GoPro
it doesn't look promising, from the initial testing we did
What manufacturer is the Red helmet> nolan n44?
I dunno. I've seen a lot of bad comments on Revzilla. Hopefully it's because the people who love them didn't post reviews.
2DMNSERIOUS if you don’t have it. Don’t do it. I’ve had the 20s and 30K. Both are below average. I’m switching to cardo after doing some research. Nothing but rave reviews all over the place. Not to mention they’ve partnered with JBL. just ordered mine and can’t wait to try it out.
Chaseontwowheels have you guys tested out the 30k with the gopro by any chance?
are they in a phone call to talk to each other?
I heard you can "multi task" on the 30k like listen to media audio or gps while in the mesh, is this true? Do you know if the latest software update fixed this issue.
Any Sena (20s, 20s EVO, and 30k) with audio multitasking technology will allow you to have an intercom conversation while listening to music or GPS.
I think I’m staying with my 20s. No need to upgrade yet!
Is that the Sena backpack you’re using as well?
Revzilla has a video for this and I clicked on it.... saw Chase did one as well, went to his immediately... didn't even watch Anthony... so I guess I watched, decided, and rode my ass off to ChaseOnTwoWheels instead!
And does Beau have a channel?
Sena s20 also great!!!
I’m sure it’s been asked but how did you capture both you and Bo’s voice?
DO MORE FIRST FITS!!!!
Can u record audio for your videos with this unit? Also how is it for music? I want something loud with BASS!!
lol wtf here in germany the 20S costs 248€ and the 30K costs 280€ so the difference is even smaller... im heading to buy the 30K as my first intercom
I have the 20s but experience a lot of crackling when using the Sena audio pack on the GOPRO. Have you had this problem?
Does anyone know how they record the communication between them? I want to motovlog with a friend and be able to record sound of myself and of the other riders.
you should review the Ducati Diavel again.....plz
Stupid question; does Bo have a channel? I don’t recall it ever being mentioned or linked.
I do, not much there at the moment. Prepping for 2018.
Do you have the gopro connected to the Sena 30K thru Bluetooth?
Why couldnt you release this video before I bought my 20s two days ago? ugh
hey Chase I wanna get a Sena But Not sure If It can Handle The Rain need HELP as Seen some Reviews on it saying It fucked Up in the Rain
The 10S is waterproof, the 20S, Evo and 30k are only "resistant" - not that any of them would survive a real dive into the ocean or anything. If you're worried, put a small plastic baggie over it in the rain, held on with a single rubber band. Won't affect the functionality, rainproof, boom.
But did you do it for dale?