Main reason I trust Paul is the fact that he DOES change his mind and goes back on himself when he learns something new... some don't understand how important and transparent that is!
@@camdizzlethe1st well, not neccessarily because frequent opinion shifts may mean you're easily swayed. If people come to you for help and you have a track record od your success then that means something. None of these people take responsibility for that and none report failures only success stories
I’ve never been more satisfied than I am on this diet. I’m blown away. I never feel deprived and I’m losing weight. My metabolism and energy are through the roof. I’m a 47 yo woman and this is the thing I’ve been looking for since 2009 when I found out food is medicine.
Since moving into Ray Peat’s work, Paul has become more gracious, less authoritarian, and has a more vibrant youthful energy about him. It’s good to see health figures out there open to changing their mind. I hope Paul is able to share Peat’s ideas further than they ever went during his lifetime.
💎Jey Feldman is great. I had him on my podcast (Boost Your Biology Podcast) over a year ago. Big fan. Thank you for highlighting incredibly important health concepts that most people completely ignore. I've always said for PEAK mental and physical vitality: 1. Low TSH 2. High T4/T3 3. Low/normal cortisol 4. High DHT 5. High Testosterone 6. Low parathyroid hormone 7. Low prolactin 8. High Dopamine 9. Low Serotonin
@Paul Saladino I would love to discuss these on your podcast. My audience has been begging me to do a podcast with you for a long time now. I think we are overdue 🤓🤓🤓
"We're gonna talk about carbohydrates! We're gonna trigger you guys... in the most loving way!" I love Paul Saladino. Like so many other people, I came full circle from carnivore/keto and discovered Ray Peat and the bioenergetic way after that. I love my meat and fruit and am trying to detox from PUFAs. So thankful for these two and their guidance.
For me there are only a very few natural health advocates that have Paul’s credibility as he is not afraid to adjust his health regimen based on new information. I still listen to a lot of content but primarily follow Paul’s advice.
Love the technical episodes! I wasn't aware of Jay Feldman, thank you for interviewing these great guests and giving them a platform for us to go out and listen to as well. Congrats on hitting 500k YT subscribers Dr. Paul! The road to 1M will be much quicker. Thanks for what you do.
This really sums up my last 2 years of experimentation and research. I agree with this idea that keto works because we are compromised to begin with and cannot tolerate any carbohydrates. But if we fix this system and focus on limiting pufa, carbohydrates become less and less of an issue.
This is awesome, Paul. I have your book and you are an honest guy because you are willing to change. I’m on Jays solution program to get off 12 years low carb and keto. No more IF either. 12 hours from going to sleep to breakfast is just fine. OMAD also damaged me.
A 1/10 of 1% of what Paul talks about is what he learned in medical school. 🎉 A quote worthy of remembering. These podcasts and Facebook groups have more information than Your average MD. I was in the hospital and the doctor told me I could eat wheat even though I have full blown celiac disease! 😂
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎙️ *This podcast discusses various topics related to health, including polyunsaturated fatty acids, gut health, carbohydrates, and an energy perspective on nutrition and lifestyle.* 01:12 🥦 *Quality of calories, not just quantity, determines overall health. Increasing the intake of carbohydrates can improve thyroid function, energy levels, libido, and endurance in many individuals.* 03:56 ⚙️ *The bioenergetic view of health emphasizes the importance of cellular energy production, primarily within mitochondria, in determining overall health and wellness.* 05:03 💡 *Mitochondrial dysfunction is a key factor in many chronic diseases, leading to reduced ATP production and various health issues.* 09:16 🚗 *Analogizing mitochondria to a car engine, proper tuning of the engine (mitochondria) is crucial for efficient energy production, and the quality of the fuel (nutrients) matters.* 11:06 🔥 *Polyunsaturated fatty acids, especially Omega-6s found in seed oils, negatively affect mitochondria by making cell membranes more permeable, leading to reduced energy production efficiency.* 16:19 ⚡ *The accumulation of polyunsaturated fats in cell membranes, including those in mitochondria, affects proton gradients and disrupts ATP production, reducing energy efficiency and contributing to chronic health issues.* 19:06 📈 *The membrane pacemaker Theory of Aging suggests that inefficient energy production due to unsaturated membranes is a significant factor in determining an organism's lifespan and overall health.* 21:00 🧬 *Unsaturated fats, especially linoleic acid found in seed oils, can lead to oxidative stress within mitochondria, making them susceptible to damage and impairing energy production.* 25:00 🧪 *Linoleic acid in cell membranes, including mitochondrial membranes, can cause proton leakage, reducing ATP production and overall energy efficiency.* 26:10 🔄 *Cardiolipin, a lipid-based compound in the inner mitochondrial membrane, plays a crucial role in efficient electron transport and proton pumping. High linoleic acid levels disrupt cardiolipin composition, leading to energy production impairment.* 28:18 🐻 *In some species, polyunsaturated fats like linoleic acid induce sluggishness, weight gain, and hibernation. These fatsare beneficial for slowing metabolic rate in certain situations.* 30:49 🌰 *Historically, humans consumed very low levels of linoleic acid (less than 2% of calories) and rarely consumed nuts and seeds. Modern diets have drastically increased polyunsaturated fat intake, leading to concerns about health.* 34:09 🍽️ *Reducing linoleic acid intake from all sources is essential to optimize mitochondrial function and minimize health risks associated with excessive polyunsaturated fats.* 40:37 🥓 *While better than seed oils, pork, bacon, and eggs from animals fed corn and soy can still have high linoleic acid content, emphasizing the importance of evaluating all sources of polyunsaturated fats in the diet.* 55:13 🍽️ *Gut health is crucial for overall well-being, and certain dietary factors play a significant role in maintaining it.* 56:09 🌿 *Carbohydrates, especially from certain plant foods, can impact gut health by promoting bacterial overgrowth and endotoxin (lipopolysaccharide) production.* 57:20 🦠 *An imbalance in the microbiome and compromised digestive function can lead to excess endotoxin production in the gut.* 58:29 🍯 *Non-fermentable carbohydrates, like honey or maple syrup, may be better tolerated than fermentable fibers, as they are less likely to feed harmful bacteria and increase endotoxin levels.* 59:54 🌾 *Whole grains, raw vegetables, and legumes are some of the worst offenders when it comes to promoting bacterial overgrowth and endotoxin production in the gut.* 01:00:49 🍎 *Cooked vegetables and whole fruits with fiber can be more tolerable for gut health, as polyphenols in these foods may have selective antimicrobial effects, supporting the growth of beneficial bacteria while limiting harmful ones.* 01:01:30 🍏 *Including whole fruits and cooked vegetables with fibers is important for supporting a healthy microbiome.* 01:01:44 🌿 *Polyphenols in fruits may have a tonic effect on the human gut and help prevent bacterial overgrowth.* 01:02:26 🍏 *Evolutionarily, humans likely consumed predominantly ripe fruits rather than many vegetables.* 01:04:33 🚫 *Resistant starch, found in unripe fruits and potato fiber, may not be a good dietary choice.* 01:05:02 🌰 *When consuming starches like potatoes or sweet potatoes, remove skins and cook them well, preferably with saturated fat.* 01:06:38 🦍 *Humans have a small colon and larger small intestines, indicating we're not designed to ferment large amounts of fibrous foods like gorillas.* 01:10:25 🤔 *Symptoms like bloating, gas, brain fog, and decreased energy can signal issues with fermentable foods.* 01:13:52 🍞 *Carbohydrates are essential for signaling an abundant energy state, while a low-carb diet can mimic starvation, leading to metabolic slowdown and health issues.* 01:20:49 🍏 *Starches contain glucose and shouldn't be feared like fructose.* 01:21:03 🍯 *Fructose from natural sources like honey, maple syrup, and fruit is not harmful to humans.* 01:21:30 🧐 *Misconceptions about fructose being harmful stem from studies in rats and the absence of glucose pairing in pure fructose consumption.* 01:24:30 🌽 *High fructose corn syrup differs from naturally occurring fructose-glucose combinations and should not be conflated with them.* 01:25:54 🥭 *Fruit, honey, and maple syrup have health benefits and aren't detrimental to humans when consumed in moderation.* 01:31:50 🏄♂️ *Maintaining a healthy metabolism allows individuals like Jay to consume a substantial number of calories without excessive exercise.* Made with HARPA AI
damn this podcast is loaded with good information! i left cod liver oil half a year .. the burps i got was the same paul talked about in the podcast. the only fats i now consume is only from animal fats. ghee, butter and bonemarrow. animal based with fruit and honey is the best that happend to me. love your content paul keep up this angel work your doing!
Pauls my best friend & don’t even know it. The man saved my life while creating vegan enemies but then again they’re always hangry due to lack of everything.
Longevity research shows that we SHOULD be giving our bodies abundance AND scarcity, hot AND cold, etc. The key is keeping your DNA in a state of repair as much as possible, and not renewal. This prolongs the life of telomeres.
What ever gets you closest to hunter gatherer would be the most natural. Our diets today are so new compared to the hunter gatherer times. The stuff we have now isn’t normal. Stick to whole foods you’ll be fine. And intermit fasting . Think about it we didn’t have meals at certain hours when we were in the caves . Our bodies and dna are still stuck in the animal life . That’s what’s normal for us. It’s normal to go without food and then have abundance and then have nothing etc. the body is made for that life . That would be considered healthy . Starving yourself is good for you. Let the body reset and get rid of some of the stored fat. I’m no doctor but I just think like a regular person . I don’t really care what the doctor says because most of them learn crap that makes them feed you medications. A lot of their practice is medication prescription based to make profits. Keep it simple. Whole foods. Everything else is noise to make a profit off you
If only Charles Poliquin had known about this. Unfortunately he used to advocate for his athletes to consume 30g of fish oil per day. His death due to heart attack in 2018, while tragic, is perhaps understandable when you consider how susceptible his circulating cholesterol would have been to oxidation given his relentless PUFA consumption.
Poliquin didn’t die from fish oil that’s idiotic, it was the steroids when he had a bad heart to begin with, he had a heart attack in his 30’s and had a brother die very young from a heart attack. I also don’t think Charles did much cardio, he just lifted to get big and strong. It’s unfortunate but a LOT of people in the health and fitness are on the juice and people have def died young
Is doctor Saladino offering a refund to those who purchased his book, Carnivore Code? I read the comments of those praising that he changed his mind. I am not impressed. The medical doctor wrote a book when the studies that have now convinced him that he was wrong in the book were available at the time of the writing. So the medical doctor either decided to ignore opposing studies during the research for his book, or his research was flawed. Doctor Saladino is far from the likes of Dave Feldman who has a hypothesis (hyperresponders to low carb diets) and now is conducting studies into this hypothesis. Then, on this video, we are told that fat adaptation is detrimental to our health. Even Omega 3 now are bad, even in fatty fish claims Saladino and his guest. And very bad when processed as a supplement, of course Saladino's supplements of organs and testicles are okay to consume. All interesting discussions. But where are the links to the studies to support these issues? Perhaps in another book soon to follow.
@@allenbrost9564 the book is fine, it needs no tweeking. It's the author who now claims he was wrong about his understanding of carbs based on evidence that was well established when he wrote the book in which he was against carbs. I have no issues in that his personal experience on carnivore needed and adjustment to carbs
You guys are definitely eating the number of calories in the formula that I use to guide clients: 1800-2400 per 100# for men, 1600-2200 per 100# for women, depending on activity level. 🎉
Just to confirm. I always went by calories in vs calories out. I’m very active but I tend to get hungry and over eat, body fat is always around 20% according to my smart scale. After going on this diet for the last month. I feel satiated, I don’t have those crazy carvings after dinner and end up ordering a pizza at 11pm or feel deprived . I feel in control with my hunger, my flat mate for Burger King, I was tempted but I didn’t have to fight it that much and eventually didn’t give in. My question is, with the red meat, butter, fruit ec. I’m quite sure I’m not in a calorie deficit but I’m losing weight. Is this actually possible according what you are saying?
absolutely!!! What he is saying is it's about how many of the calories are burned vs stored!!!! For example, if you have a well tuned engine (healthy mitochondria ) and eat 2,000 calories in a day, you burn all those calories. If your mitochondria is full of PUFAs and runs like crap, then of those same 2,000 calories consumed, maybe only 1,000 get burned and the other 1,000 get stored!!!! So basically you get fat when your cells are full of PUFA. You lose weight when you only eat saturated fat!!! Avoid SEED OILS!!!
I’m using Klinghardt’s Autonomic Response Testing to track LPS… it’s not the same as labwork, of course, but he’s refined his testing method such that he used it to help igenix calibrate their Lyme test. I can see when LPS is present, if it’s just in the gut or systemic, and can get a rough idea of how bad it is and can also identify things that should reduce it.
Would it stand to reason that if you go on an extended water fast, let’s say 7 days, you clean out the poly-unsaturated fat composition of our cells, and hence once you come out of the fast and start re-feeding you have a healthier cell composition and more energy? This is been my experience. I’ve also had weird skin growth disappear after an extended fast and felt like I was brand new with a lot more energy. Would love if you commented on this.
I've been following Jay and Paul, for years now, and I've read a lot of Dr. Ray Peat's articles, but I simply have not had a bad experience by eating lots of fatty fish, in fact every day. If anything my metabolism increased dramatically by increasing omega 3s
All great in theory, but most people feel like shit eating simple sugars for their carb sources. Blood sugar all over the place and the need eating/drinking simple sugars like at least every hour. Just horrible feeling. Not to mention if you have fructose absorption issues it will give you more digestive issues than some soaked and cooked beans. When I started eating beans I had gas like everyone who is not eating beans often. After like 14 days of eating beans daily have ZERO gas from eating beans. Not to mention for active sports people starches from rice, potatoes etc.. is much better for muscle glycogen replenishment. I was on Ray Peat forum for many years and I would say like 70% of people following diet high in simple sugars(50% glucose, 50% fructose) ended up with fatty liver, pre or full blown diabetes and gained a lot of fat.. White rice and potatoes will not give you fatty liver and obesity. Simple sugars with 50% fructose can easily overload liver if the person is already metabolically unhealthy, has choline deficiency etc.. It is just recipe for disaster.. I tried every single type of eating and I always go back to starch + meat meals.. Simple "fitness" diet"simply works the best. SImple carbs are great mainly during activity to keeping blood sugar up, but for regular meals eating something like honey, fruit juice instead of slow complex carbs? No way... Especially if you want to eat like 3 meals a day, have stable energy/blood sugar levels and not thinking about food 24/7...
This has been my exact experience as well. You will never convince me that lots of sugar and fructose is healthy for anyone. A Ray Peat diet gave me indigestion, dysbiosis, bloating, sleep disturbance, wobbly blood sugar levels, hunger, and fatigue. Never going back to that diet.
@@tanyasydney2235 The irony of "Ray Peat diet" is that the goal of this diet is to give you easy to digest foods that will not feed bacteria, will not give you gas, bloating etc.. But at the same time it is diet loaded with lactose and fructose. I mean what will be for most people easier to digest for example meal of white rice, and some lean meat or milk with honey? Heh just because it is liquid doesn't mean it will be easier to digest..
@@wesleygaitan I also need carbs to sleep. I like to eat some simple carbs for dinner, but after meal of complex carbs and meat.. SO my blood sugar doesn't spike like crazy and I don't end up with hypoglycemia and high cortisol in 3 am..
Eggs: the only study I could find on linoric acid and eggs said only a small amount made it through to the egg. Anyone have more data? Chicken: if like me and you can’t completely eliminate chicken from your diet you can do any of the following to reduce the fat content - get lean chicken meat, don’t eat the skin (most of the fat is in the skin), bake your chicken so the fat get drained away. Bacon: not much you can do with this apart from avoiding it unless you can find pasture fed pigs (pretty rare).
Less calories is certainly a consideration. If you eat healthy foods, you tend to keep your calories in check. It's only when you eat foods that drive up blood sugar, do you eat too many calories. If you find you're eating 5000 calories per day, regardless of the food, that's not healthy for the vast majority of people. Yeah calories aren't the only factor, but you shouldn't ignore them either.
I'm hoping Dr S sees this. I'm 6' 187lbs at 56 years old. Until recently when I went keto I've always been overweight. Even at my current weight I have a gut and handles. I don't want to gain back any weight. Can I lose the flab without gaining weight on this diet?
Great interview with so much honest information. Thanks, I appreciate your ability to change your view on things as you gain knowledge and experience in your own journey to health
Hello Doc! General question here… is it safe for me to feed raw locally sourced milk for my infant son of 13 months. Our natural Nurse Practitioner has recommended it. I’m a huge fan of raw milk, just wanted to check with you to see what you have to say. Thank you.
You may want to research the Westin A Price foundation. They talk about raw milk in detail. All we drink is raw milk. Kids too. A2/A2 best if allergy to the protein. Once you process milk, nutrients are not there. Hope this helps.
I have had several families with young children telling me their little kids benefitted immensely from raw milk so I believe children can definitely benefit from it. I am happy to see that your nurse practitioner also recommended it. I would make sure it comes from a trusted source, it's raised on pastures and it's 100% grass-finished.
So gentlemen. We, who have been following Ketovore need for you to publish a new as to how to get out of this metabolic trouble and get our bodies to use all of these calories and get metabolically healthy please.
Yes please! That is what I have been looking for also. How to get from having been low carb long term back to adding carbs back in safely without causing metabolic problems.
So if I already a little overweight and want to lose some weight, should I start off by including fruits and all that and eat more calories? I lost a lot of weight on carnivore the first time, but I gained it all back after I couldn't stick to it for 3 years. Now I am doing animal based and wondering if that is the correct way to go. I typically do not like to pass 75g of carbs per day. But, do you think it would help jumpstart my engine and thyroid more?
It would be great if you could ask yourself and your guests a question : " what would you do if you would get the diagnosis of being a Type 2 diabetic. Thank you
This a question for Paul. I believe it was in this podcast that "a-fib" was mentioned. My wife has a-fib periodically (age 54). Is there something that can be done from a lifestyle perspective to help address this? Western science is saying she needs an ablation procedure on her heart, and we'd love to explore alternatives but can't find any info for alternatives on this topic. She is very fit (perhaps too thin, at 8% body fat), and eats mostly animal based, though she does eat some sourdough bread. She works out regularly - both weights and crossfit.
Too much exercise can cause AFIB. It is quite common for runners to have AFIB. Look into B12 deficiency with an Active B12 test. NOT a serum test. I had AFIB which I think I brought on by too much cod liver oil. I healed myself with no medication. Ablations don't always hold. Some people have it done several times without success.
That's an interesting question cos most people think it's mostly genetic and accumulated stress. Also, I've seen some people theorize that PUFAs cause cellulite.
I wonder why Jay never discusses how his recommended diet would apply to someone with an elevated HBA1C. It would be great to see Peter Attia, Jay and Paul on a panel.
Exactly. You dont have an elevated HBA1C. There are many people that are fit, eat well and have a high HBA1C. AS far as Im aware, he avoids this topic. This is the intersection of carnivore's, high carb, and paleo. Without clarification, his model is incomplete. @SeknaTS did you have a previously high HBA1C?
@@mdlwn1123 no idea, never had it tested. I'm 26. To my knowledge it's more likely that that elevated HbA1C is due to PUFA consumption. I had been averaging about 4 grams a day for that period.
I'm guessing he would say we should be getting small amounts from natural foods. Fish oils and seed oils give you way too much. So 3 and 6 should be balanced but they should be kept fairly low, although there is debate about this. I doubt eating Salmon once a week is going to damage you but tanking fish oils all the time probably will.
So I’ve watched a ton of Paul’s videos and I still don’t have the answer. I’m looking for. Can you guys help? I recently started the animal based diet and I’m following the foods correctly, but I want to know how I can lose weight in a quicker way with this diet. I have a lot of way to lose, and I would like to understand how I can do it with this diet. do I simply eat less of the foods that we are supposed to eat? I really don’t get the answer. Thank you for your help and advance.
Hey buddy, calories do matter. Be more active and don’t eat till you’re stuffed. It’s hard to overeat meat so you’re on the right track. Protein has a thermal effect so that’s also good. Lift some heavy weights and make sure you feel hungry sometimes in the day. If you came from a background of overeating constantly than your grehlin receptors are gonna be shot And you won’t have self control. Practice being content with discomfort.
Sorry. The obesity epidemic is not driven by people restricting calories. It is driven by a survival mechanism that drives hunger but becomes a burden during times of carbohydrate abundance.
I think the first I heard about mitochondrial dysfonction (not very long ago) is Dr Robert Lustig. I definitely need to dig this other rabbit hole of health and nutrition. Thanks for all these precious infos
Long story short I lost a lot of weight restricting my carbs. I got really sick and weak. My testosterone went into the ground and every day was a struggle to move. I started with 200G of carbs and within a week I started to feel a lot better. Oh, and I didn’t gain any weight. Why? How? Because I have more energy to move,burn and earn. Eat your carbs
@@alancameron6937 I was sick and over weight. I was at 265lbs I’m now 155lbs in amazing health and shape. I do 14 miles a day on my peloton and weight training 6 days a week. I need my carbs. Keto and carnivore diet’s are for lazy people who can’t metabolize or are afraid of crabs. I know this because I used to be one.
you don't need carbs to move. Carbs come in handy when your exercise is hard and/or prolonged enough. Most people who cut carbs have some sort of keto flu due to not taking higher amounts of electrolytes/water or because they were so dependent on glycolysis, or maybe because they were eating poor quality proteins/fats.
@@Amaraticando lol how are you going to tell me what I need and don’t need if I thrive with carbs and you don’t that’s not my problem. #eatcarbs ya weirdos
What would the cause of getting blood sugar crashes a couple hours after eating fruit or squash/carrots if when combined with fat and meat? Potatoes seem to be the only carb aside from whole grains that don't give me this reaction.
20:58 is where he gives away that he really doesn't understand the science that he's talking about. His conclusions are generally correct, but he doesn't understand the "why" or the mechanics. He says that as the cardiolipin that makes up mitochondrial membranes "becomes more unsaturated," it becomes less efficient and starts to show all these problems. Cardiolipin is not made out of saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids. Appropriately structured cardiolipin is literally a phospholipid that is *made out of linoleic acid.* Cardiolipin is *why* linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid. It's literally the only place that linoleic acid has an essential structural role in the cellular biology of a healthy mammalian organism (outside of its more marginal role in eicosanoid production and few other contextually inconsequential pathways.) Its relative flexibility as a polyunsaturate enhances membrane fluidity and that is exactly why it is useful specifically in the inner mitochondrial membrane - it allows the inner mitochondrial membrane to bulge and swell without breaking as the mitochondria pumps protons into the intermembrane space to generate potential energy. The problem caused by the consumption of *excess* dietary linoleic acid is not that it seeps into mitochondrial membranes replacing the saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids that should be there (they shouldn't), its that linoleic acid is an unstable lipid that requires a profound level of antioxidant support to defend it from oxidative damage, and is also an essential fatty acid that we bioaccumulate because of the fact that it was so much more rare to find large concentrations in the foods that were available to us within our evolutionary envelope, so the more we accumulate an overabundance of it in our adipose tissue and cell membranes more generally, the more it draws our homeostatically limited pool of endogenous antioxidant resources towards putting out oxidative "fires" in the adipose cells and elsewhere, and away from where those resources would naturally be focused: on defending the linoleic acid in our cardiolipin from the oxidative stress of the cellular respiratory process itself, which leads to the chronic oxidative damage of cardiolipin and ultimately its pathogenic remodeling using whatever other inappropriate fatty acids are on hand in and around the mitochondria, which in turn leads to "leaky" mitochondrial membranes that can't properly retain the gradient of hydrogen ions needed to efficiently produce ATP.
I've seen people get great results eating seeds, these are sprouted or cooked. Could someone or Paul talk about this and why many people do great eating seeds and nuts, particularly when sprouted or lightly cooked? I'm really interested to see these thoughts, but Paul normally doesn't make a distinction between the whole nut or the sprouted or lightly cooked nut.
Sprouting and cooking may get rid of some anti-nutrients found in nuts and seeds. Although cooking or sprouting can make nuts and seeds more digestible, these foods are not a great source of nutrients for humans, which is why I choose not to eat them. If you can tolerate them, go ahead... but I don't think these foods help humans thrive...
Bruh on the internet there is someone with convincing info about why a certain food is bad, it's crazy. people are different, i'm pretty sure there is a 90+ year old person out there that has been eating black pepper all there life
I don't think the jury is out... why take any???? Just eat a nutritious animal based diet and you will get all the nutrients you need in the proper ratio.
Black pepper is un-ripe green pepper dried. There are as well the red version which is the dried ripe version, you shall give it a try. It is not a seed @Paul !
never seen such. Ray Peat, the biologist that they referred to and one / maybe the only one / who claimed PUFAs as dangerous in nuts and seeds and fish , was asked in a podcast with two girls about any links or any book to address the danger of PUFAs, his answe was someting like : I dont really remember the name of the guy who sent me a very good draft of a book on PUFAs with thousands of links to refer to.." Thats hilaroius...
How does mitochondrial inefficiency result in weight gain? Wouldn't it result in the opposite? If the body is using fuel inefficiently, then it requires more energy to perform the same basic functions, and therefore it has less energy left over to store as fat. What am I missing?
If the body is not getting fuel efficiently it starts to shut down things that are less important to survival, creating sex hormones and maintaining body temperature etc. It doesn’t fully shut them down but it starts to tone them down to what’s absolutely necessary and nothing more. If the body isn’t oxidizing glucose well it can also shuttle it to fat stores instead of into the Krebs cycle to create ATP.
1:14:00 what about winter for people that Live up north. And could it be more evolutionarily consistent to go without carbs if your a ethnic European or of a northern race?
The one thing I don’t quite get though is they say starvation mode is bad but there are people on the carnivore diet for years who are absolute thriving 🤷♀️ also did he say parsnip chips cooked in palm oil? Surely that goes against what he just said!
DId Jay say that honey, maple syrup and fruit juice are non-fermentable carbohydrates? I beg to differ- they are eminently fermentable, at least in my gut they are. In fact, all carbohydrates, including all fibers, are eminently fermentable. Not only that, my SIBO has figured out how to ferment protein. The only thing they can't ferment is fat, and I'm sure if I denied them all nutrients save for fat, they'd quickly adapt to become fat metabolizers.
I did the no carb diet and lost a shit load of weight . I’m now doing the calorie deficit and losing shit loads of weight. The difference is the low calorie diet doesn’t feel like a diet whereas the no carb diet was hell on earth. I need my carbs man
I need my carbs man I'm the same! I train DAMN hard and refuse to deprive my body of carbs. Consuming carbs before a hard session enable me to train hard which makes me look and feel strong. And then after the session I eat more carbs to not only replenish my energy but also as a 'reward' because I 'earned' them in the gym. Also, when I don't eat carbs I look like a walking skeleton ...irrespective of how much fat I add to my protein. Bottom line is do what works best for you.
Okay so here is my question, I want to believe that this could work for everyone but I’m still not convinced due to every time I find someone really into the bio-energetic aspect they’re usually someone who’s always been metabolically healthy and these are two men who could probably eat a terrible diet and not get as sick and fat as most would, I’ve searched and I cannot find anyone who’s become metabolically healthy from being overweight and/or reversed diabetes through this way of eating. Dinkoff also looks very unhealthy and he follows this lifestyle. please if you know of someone who’s done either with this perspective of having free reign on sugar I’m interested to learn! My brother in law eats absolutely terrible and way too much and maintains abs. I see how this could work for overall health but don’t think we should be taking advice on weight loss and regaining metabolic health through this paradigm. Please enlighten me! I’m not zero carb and eat a good amount of carbohydrates but I feel terrible with simple sugars
Sincere question: At the 21 minute mark he talks about how the faster metabolisms lead to longer lives, yet then explains why the porous membranes full of PUFA's would speed metabolism. That position would seem to support the PUFA's (which I avoid like the plague). What am I missing? @WilliamByrdMD
Would greatly appreciate if this video would’ve been more for a lay person because it was very technical and more so for someone who is a doctor and not a lay person.
I have made simpler videos that focus on optimal weight loss and why keto isn't the right way to do it, "Animal-based Diet 101" uses simple terms and digestible concepts for everyone.
phosphofructokinase-1 is inhibited by ATP in general it's totally normal and healthy when pfk-1 is inhibted that means you have enough atp and can use the rest of the substrate for anabolic processes. This for me sounds more like abundance than famine in general people think all you can do with calories is either store them or use them for energy and burn them. thats just not true once your body has enough atp it slows atp production and uses the "calories" for anabolic processes and favors these.
There are plenty of omega-3s in animal fats, I don't think you need to supplement fish oil… Focus on 100% grass-finished beef and you will get all the omega-3s you need in your diet.
Unfortunately, "Olive" oil and Avacado oils only have to be 40% original...the rest can be "other" and not noted. I can only imagine unless you hand pick your choice of "oil", you will not be getting pure fruit oils eating out unless it is specifically Organic California origin.
Main reason I trust Paul is the fact that he DOES change his mind and goes back on himself when he learns something new... some don't understand how important and transparent that is!
Yes, but it's a paradox because there's no guarantee that he is right in this specific moment
That applies regardless
@@camdizzlethe1st well, not neccessarily because frequent opinion shifts may mean you're easily swayed. If people come to you for help and you have a track record od your success then that means something. None of these people take responsibility for that and none report failures only success stories
omg YES
Paul is in a different league. He's truly on a journey for optimal health as opposed to other who are all in an echo chamber.
Thanks for having me on Paul!
What are your thoughts on EVOO?
So, don't consume fish oil, cod liver oil and wild salmon? WTF!
Jay ur a legend I hope u know this
Great job as always. 👍
@@yeldarleumas1847 yep, it's rancid
I’ve never been more satisfied than I am on this diet. I’m blown away. I never feel deprived and I’m losing weight. My metabolism and energy are through the roof. I’m a 47 yo woman and this is the thing I’ve been looking for since 2009 when I found out food is medicine.
Go Vegan.
@@WeirdSmellyMan😂. You must be new here.
@@WeirdSmellyMan let's reverse all of the benefits!
@@joerandom157 save the animals. Save your health!
@@WeirdSmellyMan username checks out.
Since moving into Ray Peat’s work, Paul has become more gracious, less authoritarian, and has a more vibrant youthful energy about him. It’s good to see health figures out there open to changing their mind. I hope Paul is able to share Peat’s ideas further than they ever went during his lifetime.
Seems he has always been super gracious!
💎Jey Feldman is great. I had him on my podcast (Boost Your Biology Podcast) over a year ago. Big fan. Thank you for highlighting incredibly important health concepts that most people completely ignore. I've always said for PEAK mental and physical vitality:
1. Low TSH
2. High T4/T3
3. Low/normal cortisol
4. High DHT
5. High Testosterone
6. Low parathyroid hormone
7. Low prolactin
8. High Dopamine
9. Low Serotonin
@Paul Saladino I would love to discuss these on your podcast. My audience has been begging me to do a podcast with you for a long time now. I think we are overdue 🤓🤓🤓
What is your total testosterone level? Do you have a video reviewing your own results for these tests?
Would love this !
Thanks Lucas, that was a great one!
100% agree. Jay’s podcast has really convinced me how inverted the biohacking/alt health community is. Hormesis is a psyop.
"We're gonna talk about carbohydrates! We're gonna trigger you guys... in the most loving way!" I love Paul Saladino.
Like so many other people, I came full circle from carnivore/keto and discovered Ray Peat and the bioenergetic way after that. I love my meat and fruit and am trying to detox from PUFAs. So thankful for these two and their guidance.
For me there are only a very few natural health advocates that have Paul’s credibility as he is not afraid to adjust his health regimen based on new information. I still listen to a lot of content but primarily follow Paul’s advice.
Love the technical episodes! I wasn't aware of Jay Feldman, thank you for interviewing these great guests and giving them a platform for us to go out and listen to as well. Congrats on hitting 500k YT subscribers Dr. Paul! The road to 1M will be much quicker. Thanks for what you do.
This really sums up my last 2 years of experimentation and research. I agree with this idea that keto works because we are compromised to begin with and cannot tolerate any carbohydrates. But if we fix this system and focus on limiting pufa, carbohydrates become less and less of an issue.
This is awesome, Paul. I have your book and you are an honest guy because you are willing to change. I’m on Jays solution program to get off 12 years low carb and keto. No more IF either. 12 hours from going to sleep to breakfast is just fine. OMAD also damaged me.
YES! I like the direction youre going Paul. The Ray Peat knowledge is golden. Jay is the man!
A 1/10 of 1% of what Paul talks about is what he learned in medical school. 🎉 A quote worthy of remembering. These podcasts and Facebook groups have more information than Your average MD.
I was in the hospital and the doctor told me I could eat wheat even though I have full blown celiac disease! 😂
What are your thoughts about EVOO?
1% of 1 million is what we can see of the color spectrum. Yet everyones doctor knows everything about health.
OOOOOOOoooooooo!!!!! This is the guy to listen to. He condenses Ray Peats work so well. Really recommend his podcast!
Agree; I think he's one of the best communicators of the perspective.
Agreed
ya but his diet sounds horrible. did i hear him say parsnips cooked in palm oil?
@@burritodog3634 Why do u think that? The parsnips definitely not a staple. Palm oil is low pufa so pretty benign snack just for sake of variety
Damn. This is the podcast we all needed. Good to see these guys finally working together on this.
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00:00 🎙️ *This podcast discusses various topics related to health, including polyunsaturated fatty acids, gut health, carbohydrates, and an energy perspective on nutrition and lifestyle.*
01:12 🥦 *Quality of calories, not just quantity, determines overall health. Increasing the intake of carbohydrates can improve thyroid function, energy levels, libido, and endurance in many individuals.*
03:56 ⚙️ *The bioenergetic view of health emphasizes the importance of cellular energy production, primarily within mitochondria, in determining overall health and wellness.*
05:03 💡 *Mitochondrial dysfunction is a key factor in many chronic diseases, leading to reduced ATP production and various health issues.*
09:16 🚗 *Analogizing mitochondria to a car engine, proper tuning of the engine (mitochondria) is crucial for efficient energy production, and the quality of the fuel (nutrients) matters.*
11:06 🔥 *Polyunsaturated fatty acids, especially Omega-6s found in seed oils, negatively affect mitochondria by making cell membranes more permeable, leading to reduced energy production efficiency.*
16:19 ⚡ *The accumulation of polyunsaturated fats in cell membranes, including those in mitochondria, affects proton gradients and disrupts ATP production, reducing energy efficiency and contributing to chronic health issues.*
19:06 📈 *The membrane pacemaker Theory of Aging suggests that inefficient energy production due to unsaturated membranes is a significant factor in determining an organism's lifespan and overall health.*
21:00 🧬 *Unsaturated fats, especially linoleic acid found in seed oils, can lead to oxidative stress within mitochondria, making them susceptible to damage and impairing energy production.*
25:00 🧪 *Linoleic acid in cell membranes, including mitochondrial membranes, can cause proton leakage, reducing ATP production and overall energy efficiency.*
26:10 🔄 *Cardiolipin, a lipid-based compound in the inner mitochondrial membrane, plays a crucial role in efficient electron transport and proton pumping. High linoleic acid levels disrupt cardiolipin composition, leading to energy production impairment.*
28:18 🐻 *In some species, polyunsaturated fats like linoleic acid induce sluggishness, weight gain, and hibernation. These fatsare beneficial for slowing metabolic rate in certain situations.*
30:49 🌰 *Historically, humans consumed very low levels of linoleic acid (less than 2% of calories) and rarely consumed nuts and seeds. Modern diets have drastically increased polyunsaturated fat intake, leading to concerns about health.*
34:09 🍽️ *Reducing linoleic acid intake from all sources is essential to optimize mitochondrial function and minimize health risks associated with excessive polyunsaturated fats.*
40:37 🥓 *While better than seed oils, pork, bacon, and eggs from animals fed corn and soy can still have high linoleic acid content, emphasizing the importance of evaluating all sources of polyunsaturated fats in the diet.*
55:13 🍽️ *Gut health is crucial for overall well-being, and certain dietary factors play a significant role in maintaining it.*
56:09 🌿 *Carbohydrates, especially from certain plant foods, can impact gut health by promoting bacterial overgrowth and endotoxin (lipopolysaccharide) production.*
57:20 🦠 *An imbalance in the microbiome and compromised digestive function can lead to excess endotoxin production in the gut.*
58:29 🍯 *Non-fermentable carbohydrates, like honey or maple syrup, may be better tolerated than fermentable fibers, as they are less likely to feed harmful bacteria and increase endotoxin levels.*
59:54 🌾 *Whole grains, raw vegetables, and legumes are some of the worst offenders when it comes to promoting bacterial overgrowth and endotoxin production in the gut.*
01:00:49 🍎 *Cooked vegetables and whole fruits with fiber can be more tolerable for gut health, as polyphenols in these foods may have selective antimicrobial effects, supporting the growth of beneficial bacteria while limiting harmful ones.*
01:01:30 🍏 *Including whole fruits and cooked vegetables with fibers is important for supporting a healthy microbiome.*
01:01:44 🌿 *Polyphenols in fruits may have a tonic effect on the human gut and help prevent bacterial overgrowth.*
01:02:26 🍏 *Evolutionarily, humans likely consumed predominantly ripe fruits rather than many vegetables.*
01:04:33 🚫 *Resistant starch, found in unripe fruits and potato fiber, may not be a good dietary choice.*
01:05:02 🌰 *When consuming starches like potatoes or sweet potatoes, remove skins and cook them well, preferably with saturated fat.*
01:06:38 🦍 *Humans have a small colon and larger small intestines, indicating we're not designed to ferment large amounts of fibrous foods like gorillas.*
01:10:25 🤔 *Symptoms like bloating, gas, brain fog, and decreased energy can signal issues with fermentable foods.*
01:13:52 🍞 *Carbohydrates are essential for signaling an abundant energy state, while a low-carb diet can mimic starvation, leading to metabolic slowdown and health issues.*
01:20:49 🍏 *Starches contain glucose and shouldn't be feared like fructose.*
01:21:03 🍯 *Fructose from natural sources like honey, maple syrup, and fruit is not harmful to humans.*
01:21:30 🧐 *Misconceptions about fructose being harmful stem from studies in rats and the absence of glucose pairing in pure fructose consumption.*
01:24:30 🌽 *High fructose corn syrup differs from naturally occurring fructose-glucose combinations and should not be conflated with them.*
01:25:54 🥭 *Fruit, honey, and maple syrup have health benefits and aren't detrimental to humans when consumed in moderation.*
01:31:50 🏄♂️ *Maintaining a healthy metabolism allows individuals like Jay to consume a substantial number of calories without excessive exercise.*
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I love eating butter steak and fruit. I’ve lost 35 lbs doing this.
Definitely an amazing combo 🔥🥩😋🍎
This podcast was such a gem. The knowledge between you guys is astonishing, and I can only start absorbing bits and pieces.
damn this podcast is loaded with good information! i left cod liver oil half a year .. the burps i got was the same paul talked about in the podcast. the only fats i now consume is only from animal fats. ghee, butter and bonemarrow. animal based with fruit and honey is the best that happend to me. love your content paul keep up this angel work your doing!
I have been waiting years to see you 2 on the same screen! Thanks to both for putting this together.
One of the best podcasts regarding eating so far
Pauls my best friend & don’t even know it. The man saved my life while creating vegan enemies but then again they’re always hangry due to lack of everything.
Longevity research shows that we SHOULD be giving our bodies abundance AND scarcity, hot AND cold, etc. The key is keeping your DNA in a state of repair as much as possible, and not renewal. This prolongs the life of telomeres.
What ever gets you closest to hunter gatherer would be the most natural. Our diets today are so new compared to the hunter gatherer times. The stuff we have now isn’t normal. Stick to whole foods you’ll be fine. And intermit fasting . Think about it we didn’t have meals at certain hours when we were in the caves . Our bodies and dna are still stuck in the animal life . That’s what’s normal for us. It’s normal to go without food and then have abundance and then have nothing etc. the body is made for that life . That would be considered healthy . Starving yourself is good for you. Let the body reset and get rid of some of the stored fat. I’m no doctor but I just think like a regular person . I don’t really care what the doctor says because most of them learn crap that makes them feed you medications. A lot of their practice is medication prescription based to make profits. Keep it simple. Whole foods. Everything else is noise to make a profit off you
You weren't listening.
If only Charles Poliquin had known about this. Unfortunately he used to advocate for his athletes to consume 30g of fish oil per day. His death due to heart attack in 2018, while tragic, is perhaps understandable when you consider how susceptible his circulating cholesterol would have been to oxidation given his relentless PUFA consumption.
Charles Poliquin was quite intellectually lazy. He proposed many ideas to his cult following and never substantiated really any of it.
Oh plus his anabolic steroid abuse may have had something to do with it
Poliquin didn’t die from fish oil that’s idiotic, it was the steroids when he had a bad heart to begin with, he had a heart attack in his 30’s and had a brother die very young from a heart attack. I also don’t think Charles did much cardio, he just lifted to get big and strong. It’s unfortunate but a LOT of people in the health and fitness are on the juice and people have def died young
@@jfitness432 It's not idiotic.
@@JasonActualization he didn’t die at 57 from fish oil, stop
Paul is awesome.
He answered my comment which is really rare when someone is already getting views.
I’m happy that you and Doctor Chaffee have put to rest any differences that you may have had with each other. You both bring a lot to the table! ❤ 🥩🥩
Is doctor Saladino offering a refund to those who purchased his book, Carnivore Code?
I read the comments of those praising that he changed his mind.
I am not impressed. The medical doctor wrote a book when the studies that have now convinced him that he was wrong in the book were available at the time of the writing. So the medical doctor either decided to ignore opposing studies during the research for his book, or his research was flawed.
Doctor Saladino is far from the likes of Dave Feldman who has a hypothesis (hyperresponders to low carb diets) and now is conducting studies into this hypothesis.
Then, on this video, we are told that fat adaptation is detrimental to our health.
Even Omega 3 now are bad, even in fatty fish claims Saladino and his guest. And very bad when processed as a supplement, of course Saladino's supplements of organs and testicles are okay to consume.
All interesting discussions. But where are the links to the studies to support these issues?
Perhaps in another book soon to follow.
Not everything in the book is wrong or has been changed, just tweaked. Following the book's recommendations vs just eating SAD is a vast improvement.
@@allenbrost9564 the book is fine, it needs no tweeking. It's the author who now claims he was wrong about his understanding of carbs based on evidence that was well established when he wrote the book in which he was against carbs. I have no issues in that his personal experience on carnivore needed and adjustment to carbs
Just because he now thinks he's wrong and has the integrity to update his stance means you're entitled to a refund?
@@wewlad107 yes. Because the evidence available to him when he wrote the book has not changed, he just chose to ignore it
We are of intelligent design. God is good
Great ep paul! Jay is well versed.
If more doctors thought like Paul Saladino, I wouldn't be so frustrated after doctors appointments.
You guys are definitely eating the number of calories in the formula that I use to guide clients: 1800-2400 per 100# for men, 1600-2200 per 100# for women, depending on activity level. 🎉
Just to confirm. I always went by calories in vs calories out. I’m very active but I tend to get hungry and over eat, body fat is always around 20% according to my smart scale. After going on this diet for the last month. I feel satiated, I don’t have those crazy carvings after dinner and end up ordering a pizza at 11pm or feel deprived . I feel in control with my hunger, my flat mate for Burger King, I was tempted but I didn’t have to fight it that much and eventually didn’t give in.
My question is, with the red meat, butter, fruit ec. I’m quite sure I’m not in a calorie deficit but I’m losing weight. Is this actually possible according what you are saying?
absolutely!!! What he is saying is it's about how many of the calories are burned vs stored!!!! For example, if you have a well tuned engine (healthy mitochondria ) and eat 2,000 calories in a day, you burn all those calories. If your mitochondria is full of PUFAs and runs like crap, then of those same 2,000 calories consumed, maybe only 1,000 get burned and the other 1,000 get stored!!!! So basically you get fat when your cells are full of PUFA. You lose weight when you only eat saturated fat!!! Avoid SEED OILS!!!
@@allenbrost9564isn’t saturated fat bad for you as it clog’s arteries
@@allenbrost9564nice
I didn't how the talk between these two hasn't happened till now, I knew it will.
I’m using Klinghardt’s Autonomic Response Testing to track LPS… it’s not the same as labwork, of course, but he’s refined his testing method such that he used it to help igenix calibrate their Lyme test. I can see when LPS is present, if it’s just in the gut or systemic, and can get a rough idea of how bad it is and can also identify things that should reduce it.
Btw, I had one diabetic client who is also carnivore and daily intermittent fasting and his systemic LPS was extremely high.
Would it stand to reason that if you go on an extended water fast, let’s say 7 days, you clean out the poly-unsaturated fat composition of our cells, and hence once you come out of the fast and start re-feeding you have a healthier cell composition and more energy?
This is been my experience. I’ve also had weird skin growth disappear after an extended fast and felt like I was brand new with a lot more energy.
Would love if you commented on this.
Where is the link to the article he says shows a decrease in energy production with increased PUFA intake? That is a huge claim
mentioned here with links to 2 studies www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5952932/
I've been following Jay and Paul, for years now, and I've read a lot of Dr. Ray Peat's articles, but I simply have not had a bad experience by eating lots of fatty fish, in fact every day. If anything my metabolism increased dramatically by increasing omega 3s
Paul... what I want to know is how long it takes to detox oxlates? Hopefully, these polys wont be a 20 year journey if ones in the 40s.
All great in theory, but most people feel like shit eating simple sugars for their carb sources. Blood sugar all over the place and the need eating/drinking simple sugars like at least every hour. Just horrible feeling. Not to mention if you have fructose absorption issues it will give you more digestive issues than some soaked and cooked beans. When I started eating beans I had gas like everyone who is not eating beans often. After like 14 days of eating beans daily have ZERO gas from eating beans. Not to mention for active sports people starches from rice, potatoes etc.. is much better for muscle glycogen replenishment. I was on Ray Peat forum for many years and I would say like 70% of people following diet high in simple sugars(50% glucose, 50% fructose) ended up with fatty liver, pre or full blown diabetes and gained a lot of fat.. White rice and potatoes will not give you fatty liver and obesity. Simple sugars with 50% fructose can easily overload liver if the person is already metabolically unhealthy, has choline deficiency etc.. It is just recipe for disaster.. I tried every single type of eating and I always go back to starch + meat meals.. Simple "fitness" diet"simply works the best. SImple carbs are great mainly during activity to keeping blood sugar up, but for regular meals eating something like honey, fruit juice instead of slow complex carbs? No way... Especially if you want to eat like 3 meals a day, have stable energy/blood sugar levels and not thinking about food 24/7...
This has been my exact experience as well. You will never convince me that lots of sugar and fructose is healthy for anyone. A Ray Peat diet gave me indigestion, dysbiosis, bloating, sleep disturbance, wobbly blood sugar levels, hunger, and fatigue. Never going back to that diet.
@@tanyasydney2235 The irony of "Ray Peat diet" is that the goal of this diet is to give you easy to digest foods that will not feed bacteria, will not give you gas, bloating etc.. But at the same time it is diet loaded with lactose and fructose. I mean what will be for most people easier to digest for example meal of white rice, and some lean meat or milk with honey? Heh just because it is liquid doesn't mean it will be easier to digest..
Idk about you but I need carbs to sleep, I need at least 200g a day to sleep adequately
@@wesleygaitan I also need carbs to sleep. I like to eat some simple carbs for dinner, but after meal of complex carbs and meat.. SO my blood sugar doesn't spike like crazy and I don't end up with hypoglycemia and high cortisol in 3 am..
Amazing discussion gents! Would love to hear more from Jay.
Eggs: the only study I could find on linoric acid and eggs said only a small amount made it through to the egg. Anyone have more data?
Chicken: if like me and you can’t completely eliminate chicken from your diet you can do any of the following to reduce the fat content - get lean chicken meat, don’t eat the skin (most of the fat is in the skin), bake your chicken so the fat get drained away.
Bacon: not much you can do with this apart from avoiding it unless you can find pasture fed pigs (pretty rare).
Less calories is certainly a consideration. If you eat healthy foods, you tend to keep your calories in check. It's only when you eat foods that drive up blood sugar, do you eat too many calories. If you find you're eating 5000 calories per day, regardless of the food, that's not healthy for the vast majority of people.
Yeah calories aren't the only factor, but you shouldn't ignore them either.
Do I have this right. Ditch all seed oils, avoid nuts and lower omega 6 as much as possible?
I'm hoping Dr S sees this. I'm 6' 187lbs at 56 years old. Until recently when I went keto I've always been overweight. Even at my current weight I have a gut and handles. I don't want to gain back any weight. Can I lose the flab without gaining weight on this diet?
Great interview with so much honest information. Thanks, I appreciate your ability to change your view on things as you gain knowledge and experience in your own journey to health
Hello Doc! General question here… is it safe for me to feed raw locally sourced milk for my infant son of 13 months. Our natural Nurse Practitioner has recommended it. I’m a huge fan of raw milk, just wanted to check with you to see what you have to say. Thank you.
You may want to research the Westin A Price foundation. They talk about raw milk in detail. All we drink is raw milk. Kids too. A2/A2 best if allergy to the protein. Once you process milk, nutrients are not there. Hope this helps.
I have had several families with young children telling me their little kids benefitted immensely from raw milk so I believe children can definitely benefit from it. I am happy to see that your nurse practitioner also recommended it. I would make sure it comes from a trusted source, it's raised on pastures and it's 100% grass-finished.
So gentlemen. We, who have been following Ketovore need for you to publish a new as to how to get out of this metabolic trouble and get our bodies to use all of these calories and get metabolically healthy please.
Yes please! That is what I have been looking for also. How to get from having been low carb long term back to adding carbs back in safely without causing metabolic problems.
So if I already a little overweight and want to lose some weight, should I start off by including fruits and all that and eat more calories? I lost a lot of weight on carnivore the first time, but I gained it all back after I couldn't stick to it for 3 years. Now I am doing animal based and wondering if that is the correct way to go. I typically do not like to pass 75g of carbs per day. But, do you think it would help jumpstart my engine and thyroid more?
Regarding fatty fish, I think it should be mentioned that warm water fish tend to be more saturated than cold water fish.
Interesting.
On another subject, is it OK to microwave food to warm it up?
Loved this conversation…thanks guys 👍💪😊
It would be great if you could ask yourself and your guests a question : " what would you do if you would get the diagnosis of being a Type 2 diabetic. Thank you
What are your thoughts on medicinal oils like black seed oil?
This a question for Paul. I believe it was in this podcast that "a-fib" was mentioned. My wife has a-fib periodically (age 54). Is there something that can be done from a lifestyle perspective to help address this? Western science is saying she needs an ablation procedure on her heart, and we'd love to explore alternatives but can't find any info for alternatives on this topic. She is very fit (perhaps too thin, at 8% body fat), and eats mostly animal based, though she does eat some sourdough bread. She works out regularly - both weights and crossfit.
Too much exercise can cause AFIB. It is quite common for runners to have AFIB. Look into B12 deficiency with an Active B12 test. NOT a serum test. I had AFIB which I think I brought on by too much cod liver oil. I healed myself with no medication. Ablations don't always hold. Some people have it done several times without success.
Paul do you think the oxidative stress that seed oils cause can lead to premature grey hair?
That's an interesting question cos most people think it's mostly genetic and accumulated stress.
Also, I've seen some people theorize that PUFAs cause cellulite.
I wonder why Jay never discusses how his recommended diet would apply to someone with an elevated HBA1C. It would be great to see Peter Attia, Jay and Paul on a panel.
I've been eating that way, lots of sugar, for two and a half years and my HbA1C is well within range.
Exactly. You dont have an elevated HBA1C. There are many people that are fit, eat well and have a high HBA1C. AS far as Im aware, he avoids this topic. This is the intersection of carnivore's, high carb, and paleo. Without clarification, his model is incomplete. @SeknaTS did you have a previously high HBA1C?
@@mdlwn1123 no idea, never had it tested. I'm 26. To my knowledge it's more likely that that elevated HbA1C is due to PUFA consumption. I had been averaging about 4 grams a day for that period.
Help me out, please. I thought we needed Omega 3’s to balance out the Omega6’s ?!? I remember Paul saying this was a problem.
I'm guessing he would say we should be getting small amounts from natural foods.
Fish oils and seed oils give you way too much.
So 3 and 6 should be balanced but they should be kept fairly low, although there is debate about this.
I doubt eating Salmon once a week is going to damage you but tanking fish oils all the time probably will.
So I’ve watched a ton of Paul’s videos and I still don’t have the answer. I’m looking for. Can you guys help?
I recently started the animal based diet and I’m following the foods correctly, but I want to know how I can lose weight in a quicker way with this diet. I have a lot of way to lose, and I would like to understand how I can do it with this diet. do I simply eat less of the foods that we are supposed to eat? I really don’t get the answer. Thank you for your help and advance.
Hey buddy, calories do matter. Be more active and don’t eat till you’re stuffed. It’s hard to overeat meat so you’re on the right track. Protein has a thermal effect so that’s also good. Lift some heavy weights and make sure you feel hungry sometimes in the day. If you came from a background of overeating constantly than your grehlin receptors are gonna be shot And you won’t have self control. Practice being content with discomfort.
Paul what do you know about standard process?
Soooo avocados and macadamia nuts are oxidising my LDL? And so are eggs? It's impossible to find eggs that are not fed grains.
Sorry. The obesity epidemic is not driven by people restricting calories. It is driven by a survival mechanism that drives hunger but becomes a burden during times of carbohydrate abundance.
Driven by an abundance of food containing fat and carbohydrate
I think the first I heard about mitochondrial dysfonction (not very long ago) is Dr Robert Lustig.
I definitely need to dig this other rabbit hole of health and nutrition.
Thanks for all these precious infos
Long story short I lost a lot of weight restricting my carbs. I got really sick and weak. My testosterone went into the ground and every day was a struggle to move. I started with 200G of carbs and within a week I started to feel a lot better. Oh, and I didn’t gain any weight. Why? How? Because I have more energy to move,burn and earn. Eat your carbs
Carb addicted ?
@@alancameron6937 I was sick and over weight. I was at 265lbs I’m now 155lbs in amazing health and shape. I do 14 miles a day on my peloton and weight training 6 days a week. I need my carbs. Keto and carnivore diet’s are for lazy people who can’t metabolize or are afraid of crabs. I know this because I used to be one.
@@alancameron6937 are you cortisol addicted? oops. meant "fat adapted." my bad
you don't need carbs to move.
Carbs come in handy when your exercise is hard and/or prolonged enough.
Most people who cut carbs have some sort of keto flu due to not taking higher amounts of electrolytes/water or because they were so dependent on glycolysis, or maybe because they were eating poor quality proteins/fats.
@@Amaraticando lol how are you going to tell me what I need and don’t need if I thrive with carbs and you don’t that’s not my problem. #eatcarbs ya weirdos
How can you find completely pasture raised chicken?
Paul what are your thoughts on deuterium?
What would the cause of getting blood sugar crashes a couple hours after eating fruit or squash/carrots if when combined with fat and meat? Potatoes seem to be the only carb aside from whole grains that don't give me this reaction.
20:58 is where he gives away that he really doesn't understand the science that he's talking about. His conclusions are generally correct, but he doesn't understand the "why" or the mechanics. He says that as the cardiolipin that makes up mitochondrial membranes "becomes more unsaturated," it becomes less efficient and starts to show all these problems. Cardiolipin is not made out of saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids. Appropriately structured cardiolipin is literally a phospholipid that is *made out of linoleic acid.* Cardiolipin is *why* linoleic acid is an essential fatty acid. It's literally the only place that linoleic acid has an essential structural role in the cellular biology of a healthy mammalian organism (outside of its more marginal role in eicosanoid production and few other contextually inconsequential pathways.) Its relative flexibility as a polyunsaturate enhances membrane fluidity and that is exactly why it is useful specifically in the inner mitochondrial membrane - it allows the inner mitochondrial membrane to bulge and swell without breaking as the mitochondria pumps protons into the intermembrane space to generate potential energy. The problem caused by the consumption of *excess* dietary linoleic acid is not that it seeps into mitochondrial membranes replacing the saturated or monounsaturated fatty acids that should be there (they shouldn't), its that linoleic acid is an unstable lipid that requires a profound level of antioxidant support to defend it from oxidative damage, and is also an essential fatty acid that we bioaccumulate because of the fact that it was so much more rare to find large concentrations in the foods that were available to us within our evolutionary envelope, so the more we accumulate an overabundance of it in our adipose tissue and cell membranes more generally, the more it draws our homeostatically limited pool of endogenous antioxidant resources towards putting out oxidative "fires" in the adipose cells and elsewhere, and away from where those resources would naturally be focused: on defending the linoleic acid in our cardiolipin from the oxidative stress of the cellular respiratory process itself, which leads to the chronic oxidative damage of cardiolipin and ultimately its pathogenic remodeling using whatever other inappropriate fatty acids are on hand in and around the mitochondria, which in turn leads to "leaky" mitochondrial membranes that can't properly retain the gradient of hydrogen ions needed to efficiently produce ATP.
Fantastic interview. It's good to see these two coming together and merging protein, fats and carbs working together in unison. 😂
Carbs make my Body ache, tested and true. Just a half of a wrap last night and I have a little ache in my right knee.
Probably the type of carb... wheat. Is it same with fruit?
Thanks guys! Always good info!❤
No one in this podcast denied that. Even if we did come from apes or chimps, it's still an intelligent design.
I've seen people get great results eating seeds, these are sprouted or cooked. Could someone or Paul talk about this and why many people do great eating seeds and nuts, particularly when sprouted or lightly cooked? I'm really interested to see these thoughts, but Paul normally doesn't make a distinction between the whole nut or the sprouted or lightly cooked nut.
Sprouting and cooking may get rid of some anti-nutrients found in nuts and seeds. Although cooking or sprouting can make nuts and seeds more digestible, these foods are not a great source of nutrients for humans, which is why I choose not to eat them. If you can tolerate them, go ahead... but I don't think these foods help humans thrive...
@@Paulsaladinomdthank you
what kind of results are you talking about? Weight loss can happen while eating some seeds, but body composition? Hardly so.
Resistant starch promotes fecal lactobacilli and bifidobacteria. Maybe amount matters but it's beneficial
Thank You.
This will be so good❣️🥳🪷
Please do a show or short on black pepper. I really want to understand why it's bad for the gut. Thx.
Bruh on the internet there is someone with convincing info about why a certain food is bad, it's crazy. people are different, i'm pretty sure there is a 90+ year old person out there that has been eating black pepper all there life
Jay was awesome!
I bought the Rosita fish oil then threw it away. Never again.
If the jury on fish oils is still out. Would taking 1 grams a safe option than something as high as 4 grams? But also supplement with vitamin E
I don't think the jury is out... why take any???? Just eat a nutritious animal based diet and you will get all the nutrients you need in the proper ratio.
Could result in AFIB taking that much.
This episode is 🔥
Paul you should really have Dr.Richard Johnson on your show. BTW he is not anti-fruit. He IS a trained expert on fructose and obesity.
Black pepper is un-ripe green pepper dried. There are as well the red version which is the dried ripe version, you shall give it a try. It is not a seed @Paul !
Black pepper is high in oxalate ! see Sally K Norton
unripe white pepper*
Any scientific papers to validate these claims on PUFA's and energy?
Also, any anecdotes?
never seen such. Ray Peat, the biologist that they referred to and one / maybe the only one / who claimed PUFAs as dangerous in nuts and seeds and fish , was asked in a podcast with two girls about any links or any book to address the danger of PUFAs, his answe was someting like : I dont really remember the name of the guy who sent me a very good draft of a book on PUFAs with thousands of links to refer to.." Thats hilaroius...
How does mitochondrial inefficiency result in weight gain? Wouldn't it result in the opposite? If the body is using fuel inefficiently, then it requires more energy to perform the same basic functions, and therefore it has less energy left over to store as fat. What am I missing?
If the body is not getting fuel efficiently it starts to shut down things that are less important to survival, creating sex hormones and maintaining body temperature etc. It doesn’t fully shut them down but it starts to tone them down to what’s absolutely necessary and nothing more. If the body isn’t oxidizing glucose well it can also shuttle it to fat stores instead of into the Krebs cycle to create ATP.
You are missing listening to more information
1:14:00 what about winter for people that Live up north. And could it be more evolutionarily consistent to go without carbs if your a ethnic European or of a northern race?
Oh and one more question. What about putting palm oil on your skin. Thoughts on that?
The one thing I don’t quite get though is they say starvation mode is bad but there are people on the carnivore diet for years who are absolute thriving 🤷♀️ also did he say parsnip chips cooked in palm oil? Surely that goes against what he just said!
Thriving versus SAD, yes. Optimal??? Maybe, maybe not. Why would the human body want to starve. Makes no sense. Doesn't sound optimal to me.
@@allenbrost9564me neither but there some people who swear by the carnivore diet. I think genetics must play a part aswell.
@@davidsomerville1935genetics is a cop out answer unless you know the mechanism
DId Jay say that honey, maple syrup and fruit juice are non-fermentable carbohydrates? I beg to differ- they are eminently fermentable, at least in my gut they are. In fact, all carbohydrates, including all fibers, are eminently fermentable. Not only that, my SIBO has figured out how to ferment protein. The only thing they can't ferment is fat, and I'm sure if I denied them all nutrients save for fat, they'd quickly adapt to become fat metabolizers.
I did the no carb diet and lost a shit load of weight . I’m now doing the calorie deficit and losing shit loads of weight. The difference is the low calorie diet doesn’t feel like a diet whereas the no carb diet was hell on earth. I need my carbs man
Carbs are loaded in plant toxins and glyphoste , carbs cause glycation....maybe you're carb addicted
Go watch georgi dinkov he talks about how important carbs are (simple carbs)
It's likely because you're addicted to the sugar that's why. When you get over the addiction you have total food freedom
I need my carbs man
I'm the same! I train DAMN hard and refuse to deprive my body of carbs. Consuming carbs before a hard session enable me to train hard which makes me look and feel strong.
And then after the session I eat more carbs to not only replenish my energy but also as a 'reward' because I 'earned' them in the gym.
Also, when I don't eat carbs I look like a walking skeleton ...irrespective of how much fat I add to my protein.
Bottom line is do what works best for you.
No need to restrict calories... calorie restriction is extremely stressful on the body and is likely to disrupt your hormones.
Great content. Thank you !
Okay so here is my question, I want to believe that this could work for everyone but I’m still not convinced due to every time I find someone really into the bio-energetic aspect they’re usually someone who’s always been metabolically healthy and these are two men who could probably eat a terrible diet and not get as sick and fat as most would, I’ve searched and I cannot find anyone who’s become metabolically healthy from being overweight and/or reversed diabetes through this way of eating. Dinkoff also looks very unhealthy and he follows this lifestyle.
please if you know of someone who’s done either with this perspective of having free reign on sugar I’m interested to learn!
My brother in law eats absolutely terrible and way too much and maintains abs.
I see how this could work for overall health but don’t think we should be taking advice on weight loss and regaining metabolic health through this paradigm. Please enlighten me!
I’m not zero carb and eat a good amount of carbohydrates but I feel terrible with simple sugars
Sincere question: At the 21 minute mark he talks about how the faster metabolisms lead to longer lives, yet then explains why the porous membranes full of PUFA's would speed metabolism. That position would seem to support the PUFA's (which I avoid like the plague). What am I missing? @WilliamByrdMD
Think you got it backwards. PUFAs slow metabolism and induce hibernation by making the mitochondria a less efficient engine.
All I know is I went on the dash diet, which had me eating only whole foods and I have never felt better
Shocked about fish oil!! Ugh
Would greatly appreciate if this video would’ve been more for a lay person because it was very technical and more so for someone who is a doctor and not a lay person.
I have made simpler videos that focus on optimal weight loss and why keto isn't the right way to do it, "Animal-based Diet 101" uses simple terms and digestible concepts for everyone.
@@PaulsaladinomdI'm not a doctor but I loved the deep technical discussion...don't stop 💞
phosphofructokinase-1 is inhibited by ATP in general it's totally normal and healthy when pfk-1 is inhibted that means you have enough atp and can use the rest of the substrate for anabolic processes.
This for me sounds more like abundance than famine
in general people think all you can do with calories is either store them or use them for energy and burn them.
thats just not true once your body has enough atp it slows atp production and uses the "calories" for anabolic processes and favors these.
I started eating fish oils 10-15 years ago and I haven't been sick since. I wonder if I should quit. Those two can still be completely unrelated.
There are plenty of omega-3s in animal fats, I don't think you need to supplement fish oil… Focus on 100% grass-finished beef and you will get all the omega-3s you need in your diet.
@@Paulsaladinomd We don't really have grass finished beef here. I rarely even see the grass fed ones on the shelf.
@@diffuusio4852 you can get plenty from quality eggs.
time stamp when you talk about calories?
if its "religious" let it be "religious". The truth is the truth...
They don't know how God is in the business of making man's wisdom look stupid. Not acknowledging God in everything is a bad idea
outta the park this one
What about beef tallow?
Unfortunately, "Olive" oil and Avacado oils only have to be 40% original...the rest can be "other" and not noted. I can only imagine unless you hand pick your choice of "oil", you will not be getting pure fruit oils eating out unless it is specifically Organic California origin.
Am 6 months into only 4g pufa per day. I advise all my clients to stop the pufas. Change is coming :-)